[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Jed Carty]

On the prerelease I am listed as @inmysock instead of @inmysocks so it 
points to a non-existent GitHub user. As much as I enjoy that I should 
probably change it. Is it easier for you if I make a pull request with the 
change?

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Jed Carty]

Mat,

That is the same problem that an empty textedit widget has, and I think the 
select widget too. So it isn't unexpected. Unfortunately I am not sure what 
to do to fix it since defaulting to the text field and current tiddler is 
used a lot in tiddlywiki and changing that in general would break a lot.

I just noticed that the checkbox widget doesn't have this problem so I 
guess there is some precedent for it. I am not sure what the checkbox 
widget does when no attributes are given.

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[PMario]

Hi Tony, 

I can "hear you" ... but it's OT here. That's why I moved this discussion 
to its own thread: discussion: codemirror editor and improved indentation 
handling 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[TonyM]

Mario,

I hear all you are saying.  On Further consideration.


   - The main need I have for tabs in wiki-text  tiddlers is for 
   structuring information in edit mode so that it is more reasonable to read. 
   I could live with its invisible non line break if in some modes I could see 
   them, and even if not rendered in the View Template.
   - The secondary need I have, which many authors and content provides has 
   is for indent in this case ":" works for this in tiddlywiki (although on my 
   keyboard it is a shift-: and you have to place ":::" at the beginning of a 
   line not while you are typing.
   - The final need is to organise text in simple columns, this is when it 
   is displayed as well, and its helpful that tab"text" moves it to the next 
   tab position.
   
A work around for this last items would be
|*|Item|detail|
|*|Item 2|detail|

if I could easily make the table boarders disappear.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 10:54:33 AM UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 2:30:45 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Using the CodeMirror plugin I can insert tabs in the text, long desired. 
>> However the tabs only show in edit mode, not view mode
>>
>
> Tabs are __not__ a "styling" element. They are treated as whitespace in 
> HTML. 
>  
>
>> However if a line has one or more tab characters in it it is not visible 
>> yet it is no longer blank and will cause text to move up and join the line 
>> before. ie; same paragraph.
>>
>
> That's an issue or feature request. ... I think you could start a new 
> thread for codemirror only. ... It may be possible to create a setting, 
> that shows whitespace, like spaces and tabs ...
>  
>
>> This could frustrate a lot of people trying to debug their tiddler view 
>> content.
>>
>
> As I wrote. Either create a new issue at github or start a new thread in 
> the group. So it won't be forgotten.
>  
>
>> Solutions?, A edit/View mode that shows hidden characters, 
>>
>
> Should be possible.
>  
>
>> or honour tabs in view mode such that they also end the paragraph/
>>
>
> no .. Only 2 "new lines" ends a paragraph.  
>
> If tabs cause a lot of problems, we will need to turn them off for TW 
> wikitext. They are invisible anyway. 
>
> Tabs can only be used for json, data tidlers, CSS, SVG and javascript 
> code. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[PMario]

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 2:30:45 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Using the CodeMirror plugin I can insert tabs in the text, long desired. 
> However the tabs only show in edit mode, not view mode
>

Tabs are __not__ a "styling" element. They are treated as whitespace in 
HTML. 
 

> However if a line has one or more tab characters in it it is not visible 
> yet it is no longer blank and will cause text to move up and join the line 
> before. ie; same paragraph.
>

That's an issue or feature request. ... I think you could start a new 
thread for codemirror only. ... It may be possible to create a setting, 
that shows whitespace, like spaces and tabs ...
 

> This could frustrate a lot of people trying to debug their tiddler view 
> content.
>

As I wrote. Either create a new issue at github or start a new thread in 
the group. So it won't be forgotten.
 

> Solutions?, A edit/View mode that shows hidden characters, 
>

Should be possible.
 

> or honour tabs in view mode such that they also end the paragraph/
>

no .. Only 2 "new lines" ends a paragraph.  

If tabs cause a lot of problems, we will need to turn them off for TW 
wikitext. They are invisible anyway. 

Tabs can only be used for json, data tidlers, CSS, SVG and javascript code. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[TonyM]

Feedback,

Using the CodeMirror plugin I can insert tabs in the text, long desired. 
However the tabs only show in edit mode, not view mode

Perhaps this is desirable

However if a line has one or more tab characters in it it is not visible 
yet it is no longer blank and will cause text to move up and join the line 
before. ie; same paragraph.

This could frustrate a lot of people trying to debug their tiddler view 
content.

Solutions?, A edit/View mode that shows hidden characters, or honour tabs 
in view mode such that they also end the paragraph/

Regards
Tony


On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 2:17:18 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
> of exciting new features:
>
> * Copying to the clipboard
> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
> better extensibility and customisability
> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
> via declarative JSON rules
> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
> scrolling and zooming
> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>
> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>
> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>
> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Petr

Thanks for the kind words; I’ve dropped you an email privately to take you up 
on your offer.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 24 Apr 2018, at 08:54, Brady77  wrote:
> 
> I'm really sorry to hear that, Jeremy. Any inflammation that affects the 
> joints area is extremely painful (from my own experience, unfortunately). 
> After weeks of agony I luckily found an effective treatment by combining 
> prescribed "Western" anti-inflammatory drugs with Traditional Chinese 
> Medicine herbs. Should you need some information, drop me a private message. 
> Wish you quick relief.
> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[PMario]

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 9:56:08 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 9:22:18 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Anyhow, I intend to release 5.1.16 later today unless anyone has any 
>> showstopper concerns (I do intend to merge Matt's range widget before the 
>> release).
>>
>
> Hi, 
>
> Could you have a closer look at: Add data attributes to ViewTemplate #3209 
>  too?
>

Most of it is documentation. Only the ViewTemplate contains some changes. 
Example can be seen at: 2737.tiddlyspot.com 


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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[PMario]

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 9:22:18 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Anyhow, I intend to release 5.1.16 later today unless anyone has any 
> showstopper concerns (I do intend to merge Matt's range widget before the 
> release).
>

Hi, 

Could you have a closer look at: Add data attributes to ViewTemplate #3209 
 too?

-m

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Brady77]

I'm really sorry to hear that, Jeremy. Any inflammation that affects the 
joints area is extremely painful (from my own experience, unfortunately). 
After weeks of agony I luckily found an effective treatment by combining 
prescribed "Western" anti-inflammatory drugs with Traditional Chinese 
Medicine herbs. Should you need some information, drop me a private 
message. Wish you quick relief.

Petr

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Jeremy Ruston]

I'm afraid my progress has been slower for the last 3 weeks than I'd hoped due 
to suddenly succumbing to something called bursitis of my elbows (which is a 
medical term for “expert torture administered via the elbows”). Maddening 
condition for a programmer: typing, using a touch screen or trackpad all induce 
nerve-shredding agony. It's slowly getting better but I can still only type for 
short bursts. On the positive side, it's given me some welcome insights into 
everyday life for people who rely on assistive technologies.

Anyhow, I intend to release 5.1.16 later today unless anyone has any 
showstopper concerns (I do intend to merge Matt's range widget before the 
release).

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> On 16 Apr 2018, at 15:51, Matthew Lauber  wrote:
> 
> Any word on the range widget PR here?  
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988  
> 
> If there's something that needs done with it, I'm happy to add to the PR.
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt Lauber
> 
>> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 10:10:06 PM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>> 
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> widget 
>> that supports all the features of the  element.
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is operator to 
>> allow multiple types to be specified.
>> 
>>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot of 
>>> exciting new features:
>>> 
>>> * Copying to the clipboard
>>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>>> better extensibility and customisability
>>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability via 
>>> declarative JSON rules
>>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>>> scrolling and zooming
>>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>> 
>>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>> 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>> 
>>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>> 
>>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Jeremy.
>>> 
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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Matthew Lauber]

Any word on the range widget PR 
here?  https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988  

If there's something that needs done with it, I'm happy to add to the PR.

Thanks,
Matt Lauber

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 10:10:06 PM UTC-4, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> 
> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is operator 
> to allow multiple types to be specified.
>
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
>> of exciting new features:
>>
>> * Copying to the clipboard
>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>> better extensibility and customisability
>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
>> via declarative JSON rules
>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>> scrolling and zooming
>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>
>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>
>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>
>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Jeremy

Small point. There are references to "TiddlySpace" in the documentation at:

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlyWiki%20in%20the%20Sky%20for%20TiddlyWeb

  and 

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlySpace

... that maybe should be updated/removed?

  and 

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#History%20of%20TiddlyWiki

... maybe updated not to be linked to a TiddlySpace Tiddler?

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Mohammad]

Jeremy!
The highlight plugin may be updated for the latest highlight.js 9.12

Mohammad

On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 12:56:26 PM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Thanks Mohammad, I’ll correct it,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 13 Apr 2018, at 09:18, Mohammad  
> wrote:
>
> Is katex on the prerealse is still 0.6?
>
> Look at
>
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fkatex
>
>
> The readme still states it is based on katex 0.6!
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 6:40:06 AM UTC+4:30, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>>
>> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> 
>> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is 
>> operator to allow multiple types to be specified.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
>>> of exciting new features:
>>>
>>> * Copying to the clipboard
>>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>>> better extensibility and customisability
>>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
>>> via declarative JSON rules
>>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>>> scrolling and zooming
>>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>>
>>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>>
>>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>>
>>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Jeremy Ruston]

Thanks Mohammad, I’ll correct it,

Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 09:18, Mohammad  wrote:
> 
> Is katex on the prerealse is still 0.6?
> 
> Look at
> 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fkatex
>  
> 
> 
> 
> The readme still states it is based on katex 0.6!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 6:40:06 AM UTC+4:30, Matthew Lauber wrote:
> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 
>  Adding a <$range> widget 
> that supports all the features of the  element.
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 
>  Modify the is operator 
> to allow multiple types to be specified.
> 
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot of 
> exciting new features:
> 
> * Copying to the clipboard
> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
> better extensibility and customisability
> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability via 
> declarative JSON rules
> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
> scrolling and zooming
> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
> 
> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as possible 
> to give the prerelease a try:
> 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
> 
> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of your 
> personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
> 
> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Mohammad]

Is katex on the prerealse is still 0.6?

Look at

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fkatex


The readme still states it is based on katex 0.6!




On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 6:40:06 AM UTC+4:30, Matthew Lauber wrote:
>
> Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> 
> widget that supports all the features of the  element.
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is operator 
> to allow multiple types to be specified.
>
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
>> of exciting new features:
>>
>> * Copying to the clipboard
>> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
>> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
>> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
>> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
>> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
>> better extensibility and customisability
>> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
>> via declarative JSON rules
>> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
>> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
>> scrolling and zooming
>> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>>
>> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
>> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>>
>> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
>> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>>
>> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Matthew Lauber]

Could I get the following PRs looked at for inclusion?

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2988 Adding a <$range> widget 
that supports all the features of the  element.
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2982 Modify the is operator 
to allow multiple types to be specified.

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
> of exciting new features:
>
> * Copying to the clipboard
> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
> better extensibility and customisability
> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
> via declarative JSON rules
> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
> scrolling and zooming
> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>
> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>
> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>
> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Abraham Samma]

Great to see a new version of TW5 coming so soon. Already checking out the 
pre-release.

BTW Jeremy, I don't know if this has simply been accepted as a given but I 
sometimes find it tedious to have to deal with long "Internal JS error" 
messages that overflow beyond the screen in other browsers besides Chrome. 
There's no way to scroll through the message to get to the form button that 
closes the error message. I've had to directly modify the way the message 
is created via the domMaker method to shorten the message to prevent this 
nuisance. Shouldn't this be something deserving of a more permanent 
solution? It won't cost more than a few changes in bootjs.

A screenshot of an example in the latest stable version of firefox is 
attached

Regards.

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 7:17:18 PM UTC+3, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The release of v5.1.16 is overdue; the good news is that there are a lot 
> of exciting new features:
>
> * Copying to the clipboard
> * A new “sortan” filter operator for intuitive alphanumeric sorting
> * A new “rotate left” button in the bitmap editor
> * Comparison operators for the reveal widget
> * Visual diffs available in the edit preview and the import listing
> * A hugely overhauled CodeMirror plugin with many new futures, and much 
> better extensibility and customisability
> * Many improvements to the TextSlicer plugin, including customisability 
> via declarative JSON rules
> * An updated KaTeX plugin to the latest v0.9.0
> * The new DynaView plugin for building user interfaces that respond to 
> scrolling and zooming
> * Sharper and more readable default fonts
>
> In preparation for the release, I’d be grateful for as many hands as 
> possible to give the prerelease a try:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease
>
> Please try it with your favourite plugins, or perform a trial upgrade of 
> your personal wikis. Any feedback gratefully received.
>
> If all goes well, we’ll release v5.1.16 in the next few days.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[PMario]

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:21:40 PM UTC+2, TheDiveO wrote:
>
> PMario,
> does this already cover the case where a title contains quotes? Or does 
> this need some escaping?
>

It can do, what a browser can handle. .. NO TW specific stuff here.

eg: title: aa"aa

CSS: 

[data-title="aa\"aa"] {
 border: 4px solid blue; 
}



or

[data-title='aa"aa'] {
 border: 4px solid blue; 
}



-m

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Sorry I dont have enough time and all the required skills to update it in 
> due time for v5.1.16 release, but I promise I'll go on working on it for 
> next one.
> (I just started learning JavaScript, D3 and TW in January... my coding 
> efficiency is still limited)
>
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 11:30:52 AM UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> @Jeremy Ruston 
>>
>> about the d3 plugin: I think we won't make it in time to adjust the new 
>> widgets so that they can be used in a productive way - they're still in a 
>> demo-state
>>
>> We can leave the plugin as it is, or remove the widgets and have just the 
>> library updated - adding some infos and links to the readme
>>
>>
>> Sorry @Silverfox , I didn't want to make you feel forced to act on this

Here I'm just trying to see if it can make it in as it is - it's not worse 
than the one before, but up to date
 

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Silverfox]

Sorry I dont have enough time and all the required skills to update it in 
due time for v5.1.16 release, but I promise I'll go on working on it for 
next one.
(I just started learning JavaScript, D3 and TW in January... my coding 
efficiency is still limited)

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 11:30:52 AM UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @Jeremy Ruston 
>
> about the d3 plugin: I think we won't make it in time to adjust the new 
> widgets so that they can be used in a productive way - they're still in a 
> demo-state
>
> We can leave the plugin as it is, or remove the widgets and have just the 
> library updated - adding some infos and links to the readme
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[BurningTreeC]

@Jeremy Ruston 

about the d3 plugin: I think we won't make it in time to adjust the new 
widgets so that they can be used in a productive way - they're still in a 
demo-state

We can leave the plugin as it is, or remove the widgets and have just the 
library updated - adding some infos and links to the readme


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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[PMario]

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 11:16:29 AM UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> I read the whole thing @pmario 
>
on the prerelease page you can see that data-tiddler-title is already in 
> the viewtemplate
>

..ok, .. I missed that one ;)

-m

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[BurningTreeC]

I read the whole thing @pmario 

on the prerelease page you can see that data-tiddler-title is already in 
the viewtemplate

 

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[PMario]

--- Off Topic warning -

TLDR;

So having all those discussions and implementations in place, I would 
suggest to add 1 more thing, to the view template, for ultimate 
flexibility, *without *increasing complexity. 

 - We have a "color" field to define tag-colors
 - We can have a "class" field that's added to a tiddler and the view 
tempate like this: 


\define frame-classes()
tc-tiddler-frame tc-tiddler-view-frame $(missingTiddlerClass)$ $(
shadowTiddlerClass)$ $(systemTiddlerClass)$ $(tiddlerTagClasses)$ $(
userClass)$
\end
\define folded-state()
$:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$
\end
<$vars storyTiddler=<> tiddlerInfoState=<> userClass={{!!class}}><$tiddler tiddler=<<
currentTiddler data-tags={{!!tags}} 
class=<>><$list filter=
"[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]!has[draft.of]]" variable=
"listItem"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>



I think, this will create the ultimate flexibility about tiddler body 
styling, in a performant and backwards compatible way. 




On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 9:38:19 PM UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> The new *data-tiddler-title* isn't mentioned anywhere in the release 
> notes or the docs
>

That's not merged yet. IMO because we couldn't find a consensus, how it 
should be implemented. ... See link to the discussions later in the post.

And your "data-tiddler-x" or "data-tiddler-type" example shows, that we 
may need a more generic solution. ... keep on reading ;)



My initial pull-request had only 1 intention: To fix the 
"tc-tagged-Working%20with%20TiddlyWiki" problem. ... I think you can see 
the problem here. 

The CSS definition is a bit complicated for spaces. ... BUT imo it is 
completely broken for languages, that use the Cyrillic or other alphabets. 

eg: a tag like: сломанный
would be tc-tagged-%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9 

Creating and maintaining these type of CSS rules, imo is a completely 
broken user experience. My initial PR could nicely fix this issue. 

The whole PR consists of about 17 tiddlers, where *16 are documentation* 
about the new possibilities. 

*ONLY 1 line in the ViewTemplate had to be changed* to: 

<$set name="storyTiddler" value=<>><$set 
name="tiddlerInfoState" value=<>><$tiddler 
tiddler=<>>> 
data-tags={{!!tags}} class=<>><$list 
filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]!has[draft.of]]" 
variable="listItem"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>



Discussions can be seen at my 1st 
 and 2nd PR 
 at GitHub. ... Be 
warned there are 2 "Walls of text"

Especially this post may be interesting: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3038#issuecomment-349011301
It defines a way to dynamically define a stylesheet, based on any field. 
... The problem here is. It may have a negative performance impact. ... 
see: "may have" ... 


If you need special handling for a tiddler with a field: rank and the 
> value: species you can do this:
>
 

> title: myStyles
> tags: $:/tags/Stylesheet
>
 

> <$list filter="[rank[species]]"> 
> [data-title^="<$view field=title/>"] .tc-tiddler-body {
> column-count: 2;
> }
>  
>
> And you are good to go.
>

This is a very similar mechanism as you explained with "data-tiddler-type" 
___without___ the need to change the ViewTemplate and the exact same 
performance characteristic. ... 

Conclusion!

If you made it that far ... Go up and read the TLDR;

 OT END ---

Have fun!
mario

PS: I'll update my PR. Add data-tags and data-title attributes to the 
ViewTemplate #3038 
 
and the doc at: http://2737.tiddlyspot.com accordingly.
PPS: tiddlyspot contains the proposed ViewTemplate for further testing!


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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Hi Simon, Hi Jeremy,
> it would be great to be able to style tiddlers by type like 
> [data-tiddler-type="text/plain"] { background-color: #33; } 
> text/plain.
>
> Could you make this possible?
>
> Jan
>
>
> @Jan, you can accomplish that by editing the $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate:

after the data-tiddler-title=... add your data-tiddler-type=...

I think most of the tiddlers won't have any type assigned, that's why I 
would do it like this:

<$set name="dataTiddlerType" 
filter="[{!!type}regexp[^$]addprefix[text/vnd.tiddlywiki]]">> ... data-tiddler-type=<>>

... don't forget to close the <$set> after the closing  ... take care 
that you don't add new lines


Simon
 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Jan Johannpeter]

Hi Simon, Hi Jeremy,
it would be great to be able to style tiddlers by type like
[data-tiddler-type="text/plain"] { background-color: #33; } text/plain.

Could you make this possible?

Jan

2018-04-08 21:38 GMT+02:00 BurningTreeC :

> Hi @Jeremy Ruston ,
>
> The new *data-tiddler-title* isn't mentioned anywhere in the release
> notes or the docs
>
> It can be used to style Tiddlers by title, I think that's a big usability
> plus and notable
>
>
>
> [data-tiddler-title="HelloThere"] { background-color: #33; }
>
>
> Simon
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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[BurningTreeC]

Hi @Jeremy Ruston ,

The new *data-tiddler-title* isn't mentioned anywhere in the release notes 
or the docs

It can be used to style Tiddlers by title, I think that's a big usability 
plus and notable



[data-tiddler-title="HelloThere"] { background-color: #33; }


Simon

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[TheDiveO]

Hi Jeremy,

great to see the modularization of CodeMirror, you did a great job! I can 
finally retire my rather old and odd CM customization in my development 
TW5s. The new set of CM plugins and the new control panel settings are 
great!

TheDiveO

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Jeremy,

I updated the Dutch translation to the latest prerelease.
You can find it at http://tw5dutch.tiddlyspot.com/

Cheers,

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[PMario]

There is an issue from Nov 2016, which contains PRs, that where finished

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2642

2 PRs are still open. ... Please consider them for merging. ... 

-m

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Arlen Beiler]

Hi Jeremy,

Great to see this coming together. Thank you for all your work on this.

I'm wondering if these two pull requests could possibly be included.

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3024 - Invoke hook when
server starts
 - Adds a hook to the server command so plugins can add routes and
websockets without rewriting the server. Both the node server and
SimpleServer instance are needed to give maximum extensibility with minimal
disruption.
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2990 - Allow specifying a
custom boot path
 - Allows the boot path to be different from boot.js. Useful for compiled
executables. Not as important as the first one.

Both of them are slightly more advanced code features, but for someone like
me who knows more about boot.js than what widgets are available, these are
two that I see as being very useful, and also very simple at the same time.

Also, this line is missing an else. It should be else if, not just if,
because otherwise the callback can get called twice. It results in an RSOD
anytime there is a 412. Everyone has been running into this who uses the
PUT saver with etags.

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/savers/put.js#L73

Thanks,
Arlen

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 1:17 AM, BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> Also, a question about the d3.js plugin
>>
>> It's been updated by @Silverfox  and me over the last weeks ... to the
>> latest v5.0.0
>>
>> @Silverfox has modified the barwidget and added a circle-pack widget and
>> is developing more widgets
>>
>> With the updated base and the two widgets, could it be considered for the
>> release, too?
>>
>> The google groups thread is here
>> 
>>
>> The tiddlyspot page is here 
>>
>> I would prepare a PR
>>
>>
>> Great, yes, if you can pull together a PR, it would be pretty low risk to
>> merge it before the release.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> It's as good as done, thank you Jeremy!
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Also, a question about the d3.js plugin
>
> It's been updated by @Silverfox  and me over the last weeks ... to the 
> latest v5.0.0
>
> @Silverfox has modified the barwidget and added a circle-pack widget and 
> is developing more widgets
>
> With the updated base and the two widgets, could it be considered for the 
> release, too?
>
> The google groups thread is here 
> 
>
> The tiddlyspot page is here 
>
> I would prepare a PR
>
>
> Great, yes, if you can pull together a PR, it would be pretty low risk to 
> merge it before the release.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> It's as good as done, thank you Jeremy!
 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Jeremy Ruston]

> on the prerelease page there's the link to the codemirror demo which is not 
> the prerelease demo but the old one
> I think it's just changing the link to the demo from 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/ to 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/ for the 
> prerelease page

Aha, thanks,

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Simon

> Also, a question about the d3.js plugin
> 
> It's been updated by @Silverfox  and me over the last weeks ... to the latest 
> v5.0.0
> 
> @Silverfox has modified the barwidget and added a circle-pack widget and is 
> developing more widgets
> 
> With the updated base and the two widgets, could it be considered for the 
> release, too?
> 
> The google groups thread is here
> 
> The tiddlyspot page is here
> 
> I would prepare a PR

Great, yes, if you can pull together a PR, it would be pretty low risk to merge 
it before the release.

Many thanks

Jeremy

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

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>
> the codemirror prerelease demo page is still the old one, can this be 
> changed somehow for these testing days?
>
>
> Hi Simon
>
> Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Has something not built correctly, or 
> did I miss some of your changes?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> on the prerelease page there's the link to the codemirror demo which is 
not the prerelease demo but the old one
I think it's just changing the link to the demo 
from https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/ 
to https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/ for the 
prerelease page

Simon

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

[BurningTreeC]

Also, a question about the d3.js plugin

It's been updated by @Silverfox  and me over the last weeks ... to the 
latest v5.0.0

@Silverfox has modified the barwidget and added a circle-pack widget and is 
developing more widgets

With the updated base and the two widgets, could it be considered for the 
release, too?

The google groups thread is here 


The tiddlyspot page is here 

I would prepare a PR


Simon

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Re: [tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

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> the codemirror prerelease demo page is still the old one, can this be changed 
> somehow for these testing days?

Hi Simon

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Has something not built correctly, or did I 
miss some of your changes?

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Re: Preparing for v5.1.16

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Hi @Jeremy Ruston ,

the codemirror prerelease demo page is still the old one, can this be 
changed somehow for these testing days?

Simon

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