[tw] Re: Tiddlywiki to Mediawiki

2009-06-12 Thread Shanny

Thanks FND,

mediawikiunplugged is absolutely great. Luv it.
This is apt for the ongoing check out and check back ins.

But now i got a list of old Tiddlywikis which needs to be uploaded to
Mediawiki.

Somewhere i read i need to convert the tiddlywiki to word and then use
a macro to rewrite it back to mediawiki.
But this macro doesn't works for Word2007.

What is the best way to do it.?

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTasks - needs volunteers

2009-06-12 Thread Simon McManus

Hi Nadav,


If your still having problems upgrading from ccTiddly 1.2 to 1.8 could
you please describe how you are attempting the import over on the
ccTiddly group (http://groups.google.com/group/ccTiddly) and I will
respond there.

Many thanks

Simon

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 HI,

 fromhttp://www.tiddlytasks.com/

 TiddlyTasks is a simple group task management based on TiddlyWiki the
 awesome single paged wiki.
 It combines the portability and dynamics of TiddlyWiki with a simple
 Todo list that can be assigned to users.

 hope you will find it usefull

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[tw] Re: Announcement: Free and open TiddlyWiki hosting on LimeBits

2009-06-12 Thread jnthnlstr

Hello,

Is LimeBits anything to do with LimeWire? I see you have their logo.


J.

On Jun 11, 9:26 pm, Ted t...@limebits.com wrote:
 Hi Alex,

 You can also copy TiddlyWiki (or anything other files) in and out of
 your LimeBits workspace by mounting it directly from your desktop and
 treating it like just another folder.

 Seehttp://bits.limebits.com/help/mounting.html

 Hope that helps.

 Best,
 Ted

 On Jun 11, 2:33 pm, Paritosh Shah shah.parit...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for reporting the problem. Note that you do get the complete
  file ( even though it has a .part extension ), but it does not have
  the correct filename.

  - Paritosh.

  On Jun 11, 1:32 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:

   I see.
   Saving is very fast.
   There is a bug on download.
   it downloads as .part file.

   looks good
   ALex

   2009/6/11 Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com:

Hi Paritosh,

What are the benefits of this service over tiddlyspot?

Alex

2009/6/11 Paritosh Shah shah.parit...@gmail.com:

Hi All,

We've just added TiddlyWiki hosting to LimeBits, a community for
sharing open-source websites.  The TiddlyWiki community hums with
creativity and collaboration, so we're excited to see what it can do
with instant copying, flexible permissions, and the ability to mix
TiddlyWiki with other web pages and apps.

Put your TiddlyWiki online with one click:
Go tohttp://tiddlywiki.limebits.com/

What you get
* Host it free.  You get a personal URL and workspace with plenty of
storage.  Put multiple TiddlyWikis, images, docs and other sites in
your workspace.  Add custom domain names if you like.
* Share it the way you want.  Keep your TiddlyWiki private, let
everyone see it, copy it, or contribute.  All signin is handled
securely over https.
* Edit it like you're on the desktop.  Access all files and archives.
Mount your workspace or use our online development tools.
* Move it anytime.  Use it online or off with no modifications.

What's LimeBits?
LimeBits is a collaboration platform where everyone benefits from the
contributions of everyone else - designer or coder, amateur or pro.
* Pick from the growing pool of sites: wikis, blogs, party invites,
and more athttp://limebits.com/
* Mix and modify
* Share back with the community

Try it
LimeBits is alpha so it's changing fast.  There's a team listening to
public input.
* Report bugs, request features, make suggestions of any kind
* Put up your favorite TiddlyWiki flavor and it will be featured in
LimeBits

Cheers,
Paritosh Shah from the LimeBits community,
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[tw] Wagn - very much like TiddlyWiki

2009-06-12 Thread Måns

Hi TwWizards..

I just discovered Wagn - a new wikiengine - wiki on wheels. (Ruby on
rails)
It looks and behaves very much like TiddlyWiki, and I wonder if you
couldn't just replace their cards with tiddlers in some sense?

It looks very promising - and I think it deserves a close look, when
thinking of setting up a multiuser TiddlyWiki-like engine... As I
understand it's opensource - and uses Ruby as framework for the
servercomponents... needs:  ruby (1.8.4 or 1.8.6) and either Postgres
or Mysql

regards Måns Mårtensson
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[tw] Re: Wagn - very much like TiddlyWiki

2009-06-12 Thread Måns

Sorry - I forgot to post the address: http://wagn.org

On 12 Jun., 13:34, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi TwWizards..

 I just discovered Wagn - a new wikiengine - wiki on wheels. (Ruby on
 rails)
 It looks and behaves very much like TiddlyWiki, and I wonder if you
 couldn't just replace their cards with tiddlers in some sense?

 It looks very promising - and I think it deserves a close look, when
 thinking of setting up a multiuser TiddlyWiki-like engine... As I
 understand it's opensource - and uses Ruby as framework for the
 servercomponents... needs:  ruby (1.8.4 or 1.8.6) and either Postgres
 or Mysql

 regards Måns Mårtensson
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[tw] Re: Announcement: Free and open TiddlyWiki hosting on LimeBits

2009-06-12 Thread Alex Hough

Fresh,

Limewire
Its the same umbrella Lime Group [1]
They have hedge fund and medical stuff going on as well.
I'm not sure how to think about this company.

The founder is on wikipedia [2]

Managing Director Mark Gorton worked in the proprietary trading
department of Credit Suisse First Boston. Mark traded there for 4 1/2
years and built sophisticated tools used to analyze the markets. In
the spring of 1998, he left Credit Suisse First Boston to set up Tower
Research Capital LLC. Mr. Gorton's professional and educational
background provides an unusual combination of math skills and
financial knowledge to create and orchestrate the trading strategies
utilized at Tower. [3]

Not short of a bob or two (note for non-native english speakers this
means he appears to have adequate amounts of money) ? Perhaps Eric
can develop a plugin for TW enable all of us to benefit from the tools
'used to analyze the markets' that he develops? Mans, you could
translate into Danish? Morris, your maths plugin might be useful?

I like the webDav thing though.

ALex
[1] http://www.limegroup.com/
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Gorton
[3] http://www.tower-research.com/Key_Management.html

2009/6/12 jnthnlstr jnthnl...@googlemail.com:

 Hello,

 Is LimeBits anything to do with LimeWire? I see you have their logo.


 J.

 On Jun 11, 9:26 pm, Ted t...@limebits.com wrote:
 Hi Alex,

 You can also copy TiddlyWiki (or anything other files) in and out of
 your LimeBits workspace by mounting it directly from your desktop and
 treating it like just another folder.

 Seehttp://bits.limebits.com/help/mounting.html

 Hope that helps.

 Best,
 Ted

 On Jun 11, 2:33 pm, Paritosh Shah shah.parit...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for reporting the problem. Note that you do get the complete
  file ( even though it has a .part extension ), but it does not have
  the correct filename.

  - Paritosh.

  On Jun 11, 1:32 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:

   I see.
   Saving is very fast.
   There is a bug on download.
   it downloads as .part file.

   looks good
   ALex

   2009/6/11 Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com:

Hi Paritosh,

What are the benefits of this service over tiddlyspot?

Alex

2009/6/11 Paritosh Shah shah.parit...@gmail.com:

Hi All,

We've just added TiddlyWiki hosting to LimeBits, a community for
sharing open-source websites.  The TiddlyWiki community hums with
creativity and collaboration, so we're excited to see what it can do
with instant copying, flexible permissions, and the ability to mix
TiddlyWiki with other web pages and apps.

Put your TiddlyWiki online with one click:
Go tohttp://tiddlywiki.limebits.com/

What you get
* Host it free.  You get a personal URL and workspace with plenty of
storage.  Put multiple TiddlyWikis, images, docs and other sites in
your workspace.  Add custom domain names if you like.
* Share it the way you want.  Keep your TiddlyWiki private, let
everyone see it, copy it, or contribute.  All signin is handled
securely over https.
* Edit it like you're on the desktop.  Access all files and archives.
Mount your workspace or use our online development tools.
* Move it anytime.  Use it online or off with no modifications.

What's LimeBits?
LimeBits is a collaboration platform where everyone benefits from the
contributions of everyone else - designer or coder, amateur or pro.
* Pick from the growing pool of sites: wikis, blogs, party invites,
and more athttp://limebits.com/
* Mix and modify
* Share back with the community

Try it
LimeBits is alpha so it's changing fast.  There's a team listening to
public input.
* Report bugs, request features, make suggestions of any kind
* Put up your favorite TiddlyWiki flavor and it will be featured in
LimeBits

Cheers,
Paritosh Shah from the LimeBits community,
   http://limebits.com/

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[tw] Re: Has anyone tried to setup TiddlyWeb as an application with Web2Py?

2009-06-12 Thread cd...@peermore.com

On Jun 11, 8:20 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Followup on:  TiddlyWeb from an usb 
 stick?http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/7d884c...

 Just a question out of curiousity - I discovered web2pyhttp://www.web2py.com/
 which comes prepackaged for Mac and Windows, (use source code in
 Linux) no need for installation and it can be run from an usb-stick.

These sorts of things will eventually be possible with TiddlyWeb but a
pre-packaged distribution hasn't been built yet. There's at least
three reasons for that:

* I've been personally prioritizing other things.
* Nobody else has stepped forward to do it.
* We're still finding bugs in the core of TiddlyWeb and since it seems
likely that a pre-packaged installation will be upgraded less often
than one that uses common Python upgrade procedures, it makes sense to
not have one available until it is fairly stable. Right now there's a
new release of TiddlyWeb about once a week (in fact it is time for
another one).

 I've never went as far as to learn to use ruby on rails or python. And
 I wonder if I have to know a lot about these things to be able to use
 TiddlyWeb?

At the moment, working with TiddlyWeb does require some experience
with running and installing Python programs. This will become less and
less true with time as packaging improves (as above) and as people
start releasing system that are build on top of TiddlyWeb.

Also at some point managed server hosting of TiddlyWeb is going to be
possible. This is something I've been working on, on and off, for a
while, but there are still some UI issues and scalability issues to
address. If there are people out there who are chomping at the bit for
a hosted TiddlyWeb offering please contact me so we can work on this
together.

 - Anyway, I've read that the Jquery library is a part of
 web2py, and that you can setup your own applications and databases -
 and serve html-pages from it - so I ask:  Has anyone tried to setup
 TiddlyWeb as an application with Web2Py?

web2py looks very interesting but is not something that would host
TiddlyWeb as an application. In the stack of services, applications,
types of code and such, TiddlyWeb and web2py occupy the same place:
they are both web application servers.

Even if one wanted to make TiddlyWeb run within or alongside web2py it
would still require the installation of TiddlyWeb's dependencies so
web2py all-in-one benefit would be lost.

On the other hand, someone who was particularly interested could re-
implement the TiddlyWeb HTTP API[1] on web2py. This would be well
within TiddlyWeb's original remit, which was to create a reference for
such an API.

 I didn't find any documentation on if Web2Py is an OpenSource project
 - but it looks pretty open though - Heres a link to a description of
 it's API:http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/examples/default/api

There's info here:

http://www.web2py.com/examples/default/download

about licensing, downloading and source availability.

[1] http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/#%5B%5BHTTP%20API%5D%5D
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[tw] Re: Has anyone tried to setup TiddlyWeb as an application with Web2Py?

2009-06-12 Thread Måns

Hi Chris

Thank you for your answer - and your technical advice, even if my
questions show just how little I understood of it all in the first
place ;-) I'm a little wiser now.
I hope someone reads this, and gets inspired to make systems or
TiddlyWebapplications which let someone like me (low level user] - run
it from a normal webinstall or local server - I would be glad to test
it.

Thanks again.

YS Måns Mårtensson

On Jun 12, 8:39 pm, cd...@peermore.com chris.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jun 11, 8:20 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:

  Followup on:  TiddlyWeb from an usb 
  stick?http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/7d884c...

  Just a question out of curiousity - I discovered 
  web2pyhttp://www.web2py.com/
  which comes prepackaged for Mac and Windows, (use source code in
  Linux) no need for installation and it can be run from an usb-stick.

 These sorts of things will eventually be possible with TiddlyWeb but a
 pre-packaged distribution hasn't been built yet. There's at least
 three reasons for that:

 * I've been personally prioritizing other things.
 * Nobody else has stepped forward to do it.
 * We're still finding bugs in the core of TiddlyWeb and since it seems
 likely that a pre-packaged installation will be upgraded less often
 than one that uses common Python upgrade procedures, it makes sense to
 not have one available until it is fairly stable. Right now there's a
 new release of TiddlyWeb about once a week (in fact it is time for
 another one).

  I've never went as far as to learn to use ruby on rails or python. And
  I wonder if I have to know a lot about these things to be able to use
  TiddlyWeb?

 At the moment, working with TiddlyWeb does require some experience
 with running and installing Python programs. This will become less and
 less true with time as packaging improves (as above) and as people
 start releasing system that are build on top of TiddlyWeb.

 Also at some point managed server hosting of TiddlyWeb is going to be
 possible. This is something I've been working on, on and off, for a
 while, but there are still some UI issues and scalability issues to
 address. If there are people out there who are chomping at the bit for
 a hosted TiddlyWeb offering please contact me so we can work on this
 together.

  - Anyway, I've read that the Jquery library is a part of
  web2py, and that you can setup your own applications and databases -
  and serve html-pages from it - so I ask:  Has anyone tried to setup
  TiddlyWeb as an application with Web2Py?

 web2py looks very interesting but is not something that would host
 TiddlyWeb as an application. In the stack of services, applications,
 types of code and such, TiddlyWeb and web2py occupy the same place:
 they are both web application servers.

 Even if one wanted to make TiddlyWeb run within or alongside web2py it
 would still require the installation of TiddlyWeb's dependencies so
 web2py all-in-one benefit would be lost.

 On the other hand, someone who was particularly interested could re-
 implement the TiddlyWeb HTTP API[1] on web2py. This would be well
 within TiddlyWeb's original remit, which was to create a reference for
 such an API.

  I didn't find any documentation on if Web2Py is an OpenSource project
  - but it looks pretty open though - Heres a link to a description of
  it's API:http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/examples/default/api

 There's info here:

http://www.web2py.com/examples/default/download

 about licensing, downloading and source availability.

 [1]http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/#%5B%5BHTTP%20API%5D%5D
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[tw] Re: Has anyone tried to setup TiddlyWeb as an application with Web2Py?

2009-06-12 Thread FND

 I hope someone reads this, and gets inspired to make systems or
 TiddlyWebapplications which let someone like me (low level user] - run
 it from a normal webinstall or local server

Out of curiosity, can you explain why the Portable Python path didn't 
work for you:
http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/#%5B%5BInstalling%20on%20Windows%5D%5D

I figured that was pretty foolproof.*


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[tw] Re: Has anyone tried to setup TiddlyWeb as an application with Web2Py?

2009-06-12 Thread Måns

I am - no doubt about that ;-) especially when entering these areas...
I don't know why I didn't succeed - As I recall I kept getting
errormessages from the prompt no matter what I wrote- so I lost
interrest after a while. I recon it was copying stuff to folders,
which I had to name myself - run a python prompt to make some kind of
installation in the directory specifying a path to a py-module, which
didn't seem to work - or the path didn't work (I don't know - and
couldn't tell from the errormessage in the prompt (later I would copy
the result to the usb) - and figuring out how to make it run from the
usb, the whole process made me give up trying - in the end...
I think that I had problems with the copying process, and I never went
as far as getting close to make an instance... Now my harddisk is
broken - and I run a puppyLinux from my usb. I have access to jobpc's
with windows on my work - and I live next to my job, so I can still
try some things out... untill I get a new harddisk. (That won't happen
in a while I'm afraid ...)

A not very welldocumented description I'm afraid - sorry about that.

regards Måns Mårtensson


On Jun 12, 10:33 pm, FND f...@gmx.net wrote:
  I hope someone reads this, and gets inspired to make systems or
  TiddlyWebapplications which let someone like me (low level user] - run
  it from a normal webinstall or local server

 Out of curiosity, can you explain why the Portable Python path didn't
 work for 
 you:http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/#%5B%5BInstalling%20on%20Windows%5...

 I figured that was pretty foolproof.*

 -- F.

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[tw] Re: Converting Inline Script?

2009-06-12 Thread wolfgang


Great you took the effort for giving your perspective too,

  On the other hand, it doesn't really address the slow down on startup
  through the invoking of all systemConfig javascript functions, in many
  sessions without the need at all.

 Unlike some plugins, during startup QuickEditPlugin simply defines a
 set of functions.  It doesn't perform any 'tiddler lookups' or other
 compute-intensive processing.  Thus, the 'slow down on startup' for
 this plugin is virtually *nil*.


Tiddler :   Startup Time:
MiniBrowserPlugin:  16ms
QuickEditPlugin:16ms

Though the startup time of 16 milliseconds is practically nil, taken
together with all other TiddlyTools plugins, this sums up to at least
15 second for a reload from my drive. And you certainly gave the
streamlining of this particular startup some consideration - while a
user might combine TiddlyTools plugins with various others, without
being able to tune a specific combination.

I've got a TW with all systemConfig tiddlers found imported,
altogether 1270 plugins, a file amounting to 9380 KB in size (though I
stopped updating it a year ago, because I wrongly assumed TiddlyHub
soon would overtake my efforts). - And this monstrous TW takes exactly
as much time for a reload, as TiddlyTools with 'merely' 114 plugins
and 2400 KB only!

The difference being that through the lack of any systemConfig tag in
my plugin repository, none is loaded on startup. And to edit tiddlers
is still as much fun as with a vanilla TW - while I wouldn't want to
be the editor of TiddlyTools, which is only a quarter of that size.
(Only on saveChanges TiddlyTools beats my plugin repository with 10,
compared to 45 seconds)

It is a undeniable fact that the startup, together with the
responsiveness of a TiddlyWiki, degrades with the number of plugins
much faster than through its size. If I would add a systemConfig tag
to only a few in my repository, it would very fast defeat even the
most patient.

  The times I push a EditBar button on average is maybe 10 - thereby not
  constantly, but merely redefining maybe a 10th only, with a 10 times
  less slowdown - of what QuickEditPlugin does at startup all at once
  and with full force. While often not even needed later on.

 The plugin defines the support functions exactly *once* (at startup).
 In comparison, the EditBar script redeclares those functions every
 time the toolbar is *displayed*, even if you never click on a single
 button... and, given that you always show the toolbar when editing a
 tiddler, the 'scripted' approach will be invoked many more times than
 the plugin code.  (note: the issue here is not processing *speed*...
 it is the potential for *memory* usage problems)


Thanks for clarifying this point. By your answer in this thread I was
under the impression, popups would only be rendered upon opening:

 http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/dd115fffaa4375de/99235dce35053f94?lnk=gstq=popup%2Bhover#99235dce35053f94

  This brings up the question if popups in general, and onmouseover in
  particular, are rendered immediately on first display of the menu, as
  it is with the core slider macro - or if they are only rendered once
  there is a onclick or onmousover event?

 Popupcontents are rendered every time an onclick (or onmouseover)
 event is triggered.   When thepopupdisappears, it's contents are
 removed as well, and will be re-rendered the next time thepopupis
 shown.

Since I haven't been able to make your piece of code independent with
the tiddler code transclusion - wouldn't placing the [[EditBar]] in a
popup help?

On the other hand, though I don't disbelieve anything about the
'potential' memory leakage - practically in my experience of using the
QuickEdit inline script for more than 1 year - I can't confirm any
perceivable memory leakage, instead repeatedly that an increasing
number of systemConfig tiddlers slows a TW drastically down. That's
why I used wherever possible inline scripts, or loaded large and
rarely used plugins with wiklets from a sub folder, whenever they are
really needed.

 Again, this is not correct: the code in EditBar is invoked *every*
 time the toolbar is *rendered*... thus, it costs much less to declare
 the functions in a plugin invoked once during startup rather than
 every time any tiddler is edited.

Again - theoretically possible - but practically the maybe 16ms for
opening a tiddler in edit mode isn't even felt. While the lag during
startup with a number of systemConfigs can be very easily perceived.

 However, if you make a simple typing mistake while editing, it could
 break the entire toolbar, rather than merely having a somewhat messed
 up list of fonts or custom formats.  I see no advantage to exposing
 the *code* to unintended changes just because you want to modify some
 supporting *data*.


Hopefully everyone is as reasonable to make backups before editing any
script tiddler. And for those who don't (like me, 

[tw] Collapsing sections?

2009-06-12 Thread Antaeus Feldspar

I often have trouble working with tiddlers in which I've stored a
large amount of content, only a portion of which I need at any given
point.

One thing that would be really helpful is a plug-in that allows you to
make collapsible sections.  (This is a fairly easy trick to do with
JavaScript and CSS, but I've had very little luck with TiddlyWiki and
CSS.)  For instance, the plugin might put a clickable link in every h1-
h6 header that, when clicked, either hides all the content under that
header, or if it's already hidden, shows it again.  That way even
large tiddlers would become more manageable, as the portions that
aren't needed at a given moment can be folded away out of sight.

Does anyone have a working solution that would do this?
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb from an usb stick?

2009-06-12 Thread tony

On May 14, 2:10 pm, tony cca...@gmail.com wrote:
 On May 14, 1:28 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:

  I use PortablePython_1.1_py2.6.1  ie 2.6.1

 I'll keep trying on the DOS end, post if any update.

Hi Måns,

Try again, it works.

Update:
I finally got Tiddlyweb 0.9.38 using a SQLite store to run under
PortablePython (PP)2.5.4 like Perica and FND using FND's instructions
as a guide:
http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/recipes/docs/tiddlers/Installing%20on%20Windows

I mispoke/mistaken when I got Tiddlyweb running in PP2.6.1.

Since I had twanager already installed on desktop Windows and Mac, it
really isn't truly portable.

The real test is having the whole thing run from some internet cafe
machine that doesn't have anything; just what is on the removable
drive.

The kicker was I tried using Python 2.5 like in the instructions, but
that mirror is empty: 
http://elvis.rowan.edu/mirrors/portablepython/v1.1/PortablePython1.0.zip

PortablePython_1.1_py2.5.4 is what is needed: 
http://www.portablepython.com/releases/

Install PP
After I ran the installer, I saved the PP to C:\Portable/
PortablePython_1.1_py2.5.4

Now this installs PP to my desktop

Get tiddlyweb
then I downloaded the tiddlyweb distribution to C:\Portable
then I cheated and did a tar xvzf from cygwin to unpack the tiddlyweb
distro (no 7-zip on hand)

Get tiddlyweb dependencies (follow FND instructions)
Tip: Adding the TiddlyWeb dependencies, I made sure to use:
easy_install-script.py as there are many versions of easy_install

Make a Tiddlyweb instance:
Win-R then 'cmd' got the DOS prompt then ran the C:\Portable
\PortablePython_1.1_py2.5.4\App\python.exe C:\Portable
\tiddlyweb-0.9.38\twanager instance wiki
(wiki is my instance name)

Tip: it was tough doing all that tab completion in DOS sometimes you
might want to do blah/blah/python.exe blah/blah/twanager to see that
is the right path when it spits out the help. Switching between cygwin
and dos windows to get the paths straight was dizzying.

Anyway cd wiki then start the server as usual: blah/blah/twanager
server localhost 8080

After I got tired of tab completion, i threw it into a batch file
(don't mind the E:\ that is my USB drive)

Here's the start_server.bat file:
  @ECHO OFF
  REM - change the drive letter to suit your own
  E:\Portable\PortablePython_1.1_py2.5.4\App\python.exe E:\Portable
\tiddlyweb-0.9.39\twanager server 127.0.0.1 8080

After I got it working on the desktop at C: (confirm saving to a
recipe of system+bag), I then moved the whole C:\Portable to my USB
drive at E: and changed the drive letter on the bat file.

Be patient, it took a long time.

I then tried for sql store copying the sqlstore plugins sql.py and
migrate.py into my instance, wiki then updating the tiddlywebconfig.py
to first migrate the plain text store -- sqlite.db with twanager
migrate then edit the tiddlywebconfig.py again to use sql store eg
'server_store': ['sql', {'db_config': 'sqlite:///wiki.db'}],

see the sqlstore tester thread for the config:
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiDev/browse_thread/thread/b1bdf6cb981b4bcc?hl=en

Don't make the mistake I did initially using tiddlyweb-0.9.39 which
just came out today, June 12

tiddlyweb-0.9.39 works only for the plain text store when I tried from
sql store I got a mismatch thread error everyplace I tried. (I was
previously successful at the local, shared and USB drives)

Ha! I tried downgrading easy_install tiddlyweb==0.9.38 only to forget
that I didn't use easy_install to install tiddlyweb!
Had to redownload dist, then unpack 0.9.38

Install sqlalchemy!
I forgot to do it at C: so I just did it in E: with E:\Portable/
PortablePython_1.1_py2.5.4/App/Scripts\easy_install-script.py
sqlalchemy
it still works.
Tip: you don't need the sqlite, but I don't know why. I downloaded the
win binary exe just in case, also to learn.

I say, it took a lot of trial and error, but finally seeing the thing
work independently from within the drive was satisfying.

Positive results on: WinXP GoogleChrome, FF3.011

I was so excited I tried it under Linux only to forget that PP is
Windows only ;-\ another time

Many fav tiddlywiki plugins work like Udo's YourSearch and you can
access local links under Firefox addon: http://locallink.mozdev.org/

Even though TiddlyWeb has no Revisions or Diff Plugin and my wiki.db
will still bulk up in the revisions table, this is a near holy grail
of tiddlywebwiness, a reusable non-linear personal web notebook + self-
contained offline backend.

Thanks to Chris, FND, Perica, Jeremy et al.

Best,
tony

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[tw] Re: Collapsing sections?

2009-06-12 Thread Eric Shulman

 For instance, the plugin might put a clickable link in every h1-
 h6 header that, when clicked, either hides all the content under that
 header, or if it's already hidden, shows it again.

 Does anyone have a working solution that would do this?

http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#FoldHeadingsPlugin

enjoy,
-e


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Re: Page Break problem

2009-06-12 Thread ~ Mitchell Surface ~
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 01:47, colinchristensen 
colinchristen...@iinet.net.au wrote:


 Bump


Set, Spike?



 On Jun 2, 4:40 pm, colinchristensen colinchristen...@iinet.net.au
 wrote:
  Whenever I print reports, where it is going to spread over to a second
  page I get a page break immediately after the title (actually, after
  the date - I have added today at the beginning of most of them.)
 
  Ideally I'd like to be able to specify where to break but,a t the very
  least I'd expect it to break only near the end of a page.
 
  Do others have the same probem? Any solutions?
 



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