Re: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?

[Eddie Bush]

Thank you for the update =)  I'm guessing the 4.1.x series won't start
having RPM builds until they reach a full release - is that assumpiton
correct?

Thanks!

Eddie

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From: "GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jason Corley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tomcat Users List"
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?

I'm working on tomcat 4.0.4 rpms, which need much more externals
rpms (many from commons).

That's why it take a little more times than expected




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RE: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?

[GOMEZ Henri]

>Don't take me as a definitive source as I'm not a commiter (or 
>even a developer) but I believe there is work to make the RPMs 
>for tomcat4 more FHS compliant.  There is also some debate as 
>to how FHS compliance should be achieved (proper directory 
>structure, symlinking in post-install, etc.).  This is not a 
>small task, so the RPMs may be a bit delayed as compared to 
>how quickly they were posted in the past.  And I do not 
>believe the RPMs are built via the same build tasks that 
>produce the other platform binaries, although that seems like 
>a worthwhile goal to move towards if possible.  Rest assured 
>though that tomcat RPMs have not been dropped from the plans 
>as far as I've seen, and if they have been I'll start building 
>some. :-)
>Jason

I'm working on tomcat 4.0.4 rpms, which need much more externals
rpms (many from commons). 

That's why it take a little more times than expected

>-Original Message-
>From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:01 PM
>To: Tomcat Users Mailing List
>Subject: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?
>
>
>Note: This is a slightly reworded posting from yesterday.  I 
>got no response, and really wanted one.  I'm reposting because 
>I'm assuming nobody that knew saw it - and that it's so far 
>down in the stack now they will not see it.
>
>Hi - just curious if there would be no more RPM distributions 
>past 4.0.3.  That's the last version I see one for.  I rather 
>like the RPMs myself and would like to see them continue.  Did 
>someone accidentally comment out that part of the Ant script? 
>=)  I certainly hope you all haven't decided to no longer 
>build RPM distributions =(  Anyone know what is up?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Eddie
>
>

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RE: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?

[Jason Corley]

Don't take me as a definitive source as I'm not a commiter (or even a developer) but I 
believe there is work to make the RPMs for tomcat4 more FHS compliant.  There is also 
some debate as to how FHS compliance should be achieved (proper directory structure, 
symlinking in post-install, etc.).  This is not a small task, so the RPMs may be a bit 
delayed as compared to how quickly they were posted in the past.  And I do not believe 
the RPMs are built via the same build tasks that produce the other platform binaries, 
although that seems like a worthwhile goal to move towards if possible.  Rest assured 
though that tomcat RPMs have not been dropped from the plans as far as I've seen, and 
if they have been I'll start building some. :-)
Jason

-Original Message-
From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Tomcat Users Mailing List
Subject: Distribution Policy? Where did the RPMs go?


Note: This is a slightly reworded posting from yesterday.  I got no response, and 
really wanted one.  I'm reposting because I'm assuming nobody that knew saw it - and 
that it's so far down in the stack now they will not see it.

Hi - just curious if there would be no more RPM distributions past 4.0.3.  That's the 
last version I see one for.  I rather like the RPMs myself and would like to see them 
continue.  Did someone accidentally comment out that part of the Ant script? =)  I 
certainly hope you all haven't decided to no longer build RPM distributions =(  Anyone 
know what is up?

Thanks!

Eddie


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Re: Distribution of production systems??

[Brown Bay]

Hello,

Thanks for the reply. Thanks for the short explanation, I am assuming here
that war is the way to go for me ;) (pardon the pun)

So, that gets me to my second question, should a war created through ant or
java's war utility be able to work on any application server (certified or
not). because the .war i created worked on Tomcat and websphere out of the
box, but did not work on weblogic. shouldnt a .war work on any application
server?

Please let me know your experiences.

Thanks,

Brown.

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Hi,
JARs and WARs and EARs, oh my ;)

A WebApplicationArchive (WAR) contains the files for a web application,
e.g. servlets, JSPs, static files (html, images, libraries, etc.) and so
on, as well as that web application's deployment descriptor (web.xml).

An EAR typically
contains more than a WAR in that it contains EJBs and their libraries,
information, descriptors, etc.  It may also contain other,
server-specific
deployment details.  It is common for an EAR file to contain one or more
WAR files.  An EAR file will have the application descriptor,
application.xml.

Personally, I use Ant's WAR and EAR tasks to create those files.  I'm
sure
other people have their favorites, as some IDEs have built-in support
for
this.

Hope this helps,
Yoav

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>From: Brown Bay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:21 AM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Distribution of production systems??
>
>I have an application that is ready to ship and uses basically servlets
and
>JSPs. Our preferred system of choice is Tomcat/Apache, but there might
be
>scenarios where customers would like to choose Websphere or BEA or
. In
>this case we are considering packaging the application as a .war file
and
>sending this accross.
>
>I tried the .war file generated with BEA yesterday and it did not work
,
>but
>the same war file worked with Websphere Studio. So my question is what
are
>the distribution methods that developers out there use to distribute
their
>web applications.
>
>2nd question is what are EAR files and how do they differ from WAR
files.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>TP
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RE: Distribution of production systems??

[Shapira, Yoav]

Hi,
JARs and WARs and EARs, oh my ;)

A WebApplicationArchive (WAR) contains the files for a web application,
e.g. servlets, JSPs, static files (html, images, libraries, etc.) and so
on, as well as that web application's deployment descriptor (web.xml).  

An EAR typically
contains more than a WAR in that it contains EJBs and their libraries,
information, descriptors, etc.  It may also contain other,
server-specific
deployment details.  It is common for an EAR file to contain one or more
WAR files.  An EAR file will have the application descriptor,
application.xml.

Personally, I use Ant's WAR and EAR tasks to create those files.  I'm
sure
other people have their favorites, as some IDEs have built-in support
for
this.  

Hope this helps,
Yoav

>-Original Message-
>From: Brown Bay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:21 AM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Distribution of production systems??
>
>I have an application that is ready to ship and uses basically servlets
and
>JSPs. Our preferred system of choice is Tomcat/Apache, but there might
be
>scenarios where customers would like to choose Websphere or BEA or
. In
>this case we are considering packaging the application as a .war file
and
>sending this accross.
>
>I tried the .war file generated with BEA yesterday and it did not work
,
>but
>the same war file worked with Websphere Studio. So my question is what
are
>the distribution methods that developers out there use to distribute
their
>web applications.
>
>2nd question is what are EAR files and how do they differ from WAR
files.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>TP
>
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Re: Distribution/Licensing question

[Brett M. Bergquist]

Jeff, I just noticed on Sun's Java web pages that as of the 10/17/2001 that javac and 
tools.jar are now redistributable.  Here's a
link to a page with this information:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/


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From: Jeff Corliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Distribution/Licensing question


> Cool, I will check that out.  Thanks!
>
> --- "Brett M. Bergquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jeff, you need to contact Sun in regards to
> > redistributing the Java compiler.  But, you could go
> > the route that we did and use the
> > IBM Jikes Java compiler which is freely
> > distributable provided that you show the proper
> > notices and such.
> >
> >
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> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:14 PM
> > Subject: Distribution/Licensing question
> >
> >
> > > Quick newbie question, and if its just a case of
> > RTFM
> > > (which I have, but maybe I missed it), please feel
> > > free to say so ...
> > >
> > > I am writing a webapp that includes tag libraries
> > and
> > > the intent is to sell this to multiple customers,
> > each
> > > of whom will be designing their own JSPs using
> > those
> > > tags.  Now, since that means the JSPs will need to
> > be
> > > compiled by Tomcat at least once at each
> > customer's
> > > site, does this mean I need to actually distribute
> > not
> > > only Tomcat but also the JDK (not just the JRE)?
> > If
> > > that is the case, does that mean I have to make an
> > > arrangement with Sun for licensing the
> > redistribution
> > > of the JDK?
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >
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Re: Distribution/Licensing question

[Jeff Corliss]

Cool, I will check that out.  Thanks!

--- "Brett M. Bergquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeff, you need to contact Sun in regards to
> redistributing the Java compiler.  But, you could go
> the route that we did and use the
> IBM Jikes Java compiler which is freely
> distributable provided that you show the proper
> notices and such.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Jeff Corliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Tomcat Users List
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:14 PM
> Subject: Distribution/Licensing question
> 
> 
> > Quick newbie question, and if its just a case of
> RTFM
> > (which I have, but maybe I missed it), please feel
> > free to say so ...
> >
> > I am writing a webapp that includes tag libraries
> and
> > the intent is to sell this to multiple customers,
> each
> > of whom will be designing their own JSPs using
> those
> > tags.  Now, since that means the JSPs will need to
> be
> > compiled by Tomcat at least once at each
> customer's
> > site, does this mean I need to actually distribute
> not
> > only Tomcat but also the JDK (not just the JRE)? 
> If
> > that is the case, does that mean I have to make an
> > arrangement with Sun for licensing the
> redistribution
> > of the JDK?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > __
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Re: Distribution/Licensing question

[Brett M. Bergquist]

Jeff, you need to contact Sun in regards to redistributing the Java compiler.  But, 
you could go the route that we did and use the
IBM Jikes Java compiler which is freely distributable provided that you show the 
proper notices and such.


- Original Message -
From: Jeff Corliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:14 PM
Subject: Distribution/Licensing question


> Quick newbie question, and if its just a case of RTFM
> (which I have, but maybe I missed it), please feel
> free to say so ...
>
> I am writing a webapp that includes tag libraries and
> the intent is to sell this to multiple customers, each
> of whom will be designing their own JSPs using those
> tags.  Now, since that means the JSPs will need to be
> compiled by Tomcat at least once at each customer's
> site, does this mean I need to actually distribute not
> only Tomcat but also the JDK (not just the JRE)?  If
> that is the case, does that mean I have to make an
> arrangement with Sun for licensing the redistribution
> of the JDK?
>
> Many thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
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Re: distribution

[Craig R. McClanahan]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Knoll, Craig wrote:

> In the binary distribution folders, there are several files. I know I
> need "jakarta-tomcat-3.2.3.zip" but what is
> "jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3.zip used for? Do I need this file in
> conjunction with Tomcat? Is it for JSP? Is the usage of this file
> documented?
> 

The jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3 zip contains the sources and Javadocs for the
servlet API classes.  You don't need it unless you want them (or unless
you are building Tomcat from sources), because the 3.2.3 binary
distribution includes the "servlet.jar" file built from these classes.

> Thanks.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> 

Craig McClanahan

RE: distribution

[Mike Jackson]

It's servlet api docs.  Or at least that's what my cursory look said it was.

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> -Original Message-
> From: John Hebert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: distribution
> 
> 
> Knoll, Craig wrote:
> 
> > In the binary distribution folders, there are several files. I 
> know I need "jakarta-tomcat-3.2.3.zip" but what is 
> "jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3.zip used for?
> 
> 
> 
> > Do I need this file in conjunction with Tomcat? Is it for JSP?
> 
> 
> No.
> 
> > Is the usage of this file documented? 
> 
> After you unarchive this file, take a look at 
> jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3/docs/index.html.
> 
> I believe this is the source for Tomcat servlet.jar. Tomcat is an 
> application server for the methods/functions contained in the 
> servlet.jar. Um, can anyone else come up with a better explanation? Like 
> St. Augustine, I know what it is until you ask me to explain it. :)
> 
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Re: distribution

[John Hebert]

Knoll, Craig wrote:

> In the binary distribution folders, there are several files. I know I need 
>"jakarta-tomcat-3.2.3.zip" but what is "jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3.zip used for?



> Do I need this file in conjunction with Tomcat? Is it for JSP?


No.

> Is the usage of this file documented? 

After you unarchive this file, take a look at 
jakarta-servletapi-3.2.3/docs/index.html.

I believe this is the source for Tomcat servlet.jar. Tomcat is an 
application server for the methods/functions contained in the 
servlet.jar. Um, can anyone else come up with a better explanation? Like 
St. Augustine, I know what it is until you ask me to explain it. :)

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