Re: [tor-relays] Nyx

[Dr Gerard Bulger]

Fixed it by installing from deb file.



-Original Message-
From: Dr Gerard Bulger  
Sent: 21 February 2021 19:09
To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' 
Subject: Nyx

Sorry if wrong forum

Nyx install out of the box, never had this error on starting before Ubuntu
18.04 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/nyx", line 11, in 
load_entry_point('nyx==2.0.4', 'console_scripts', 'nyx')()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 480,
in load_entry_point
return get_distribution(dist).load_entry_point(group, name)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line
2693, in load_entry_point etc

Tor itself is running happily

What dependency is it missing.  Purge and reinstall made no difference.

Gerry


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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0.4-4 on armhf - Python3 error

[Damian Johnson]

Ahhh! Very helpful, thanks Andrew. I'll be cutting a Stem 1.7 release
soon. I'll include a fix for it.

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/26967


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Andrew Deason  wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:50:57 -0700
> Damian Johnson  wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul. Distutils should be a python builtin. Per chance did you
>> compile python yourself? If so then that can sometimes exclude modules
>> we expect to be there (like compression libs).
>
> On newer Debian/Ubuntu, it's in a separate package:
>
> # apt-get install python3-distutils
>
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0.4-4 on armhf - Python3 error

[Andrew Deason]

On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 11:50:57 -0700
Damian Johnson  wrote:

> Hi Paul. Distutils should be a python builtin. Per chance did you
> compile python yourself? If so then that can sometimes exclude modules
> we expect to be there (like compression libs).

On newer Debian/Ubuntu, it's in a separate package:

# apt-get install python3-distutils

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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0.4-4 on armhf - Python3 error

[arisbe]

So, where do we find distutils?  It doesn't load with apt-get install or 
pip install on either ubuntu or debian.  What dicroty is it in?



On 7/27/2018 11:50 AM, Damian Johnson wrote:

Hi Paul. Distutils should be a python builtin. Per chance did you
compile python yourself? If so then that can sometimes exclude modules
we expect to be there (like compression libs).


On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Paul  wrote:

I try to run Nyx on  Linux 4.9.80-Re4son-v7+ #1 SMP Thu Apr 26 17:45:16 CDT 
2018 armv7l getting following after start:


Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/bin/nyx", line 11, in 
 load_entry_point('nyx==2.0.4', 'console_scripts', 'nyx')()
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 476, 
in load_entry_point
 return get_distribution(dist).load_entry_point(group, name)
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2700, 
in load_entry_point
 return ep.load()
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2318, 
in load
 return self.resolve()
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2324, 
in resolve
 module = __import__(self.module_name, fromlist=['__name__'], level=0)
   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nyx/__init__.py", line 46, in 
 import distutils.spawn
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'distutils.spawn'


Could somebody show me a way to solve this and get Nyx running?

Thanks  Paul



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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0.4-4 on armhf - Python3 error

[Damian Johnson]

Hi Paul. Distutils should be a python builtin. Per chance did you
compile python yourself? If so then that can sometimes exclude modules
we expect to be there (like compression libs).


On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Paul  wrote:
> I try to run Nyx on  Linux 4.9.80-Re4son-v7+ #1 SMP Thu Apr 26 17:45:16 CDT 
> 2018 armv7l getting following after start:
>
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/nyx", line 11, in 
> load_entry_point('nyx==2.0.4', 'console_scripts', 'nyx')()
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 476, 
> in load_entry_point
> return get_distribution(dist).load_entry_point(group, name)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2700, 
> in load_entry_point
> return ep.load()
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2318, 
> in load
> return self.resolve()
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2324, 
> in resolve
> module = __import__(self.module_name, fromlist=['__name__'], level=0)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nyx/__init__.py", line 46, in 
> import distutils.spawn
> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'distutils.spawn'
>
>
> Could somebody show me a way to solve this and get Nyx running?
>
> Thanks  Paul
>
>
>
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0.4-4 on armhf - Python3 error

[Renato dos Santos]

Well, do you have this package? (distutils)

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 12:58 Paul  wrote:

> I try to run Nyx on  Linux 4.9.80-Re4son-v7+ #1 SMP Thu Apr 26 17:45:16
> CDT 2018 armv7l getting following after start:
>
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/nyx", line 11, in 
> load_entry_point('nyx==2.0.4', 'console_scripts', 'nyx')()
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line
> 476, in load_entry_point
> return get_distribution(dist).load_entry_point(group, name)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line
> 2700, in load_entry_point
> return ep.load()
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line
> 2318, in load
> return self.resolve()
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line
> 2324, in resolve
> module = __import__(self.module_name, fromlist=['__name__'], level=0)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/nyx/__init__.py", line 46, in
> 
> import distutils.spawn
> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'distutils.spawn'
>
>
> Could somebody show me a way to solve this and get Nyx running?
>
> Thanks  Paul
>
>
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx and Arm

[gerard]

My exit has been around for a year or more.  Bit Nyx now reports 120 outbound, 
but has pages of blue labelled outbound.

Arm 3044  502 exit   shows

531.6 Mb/s- 1.02Mbs

Exit, Fast, HSDir, Running, Stable, V2Dir, Valid

 

Nyx does not show any exits.  Tor Relay (Atlas) shows exit probability of up to 
0.0300% over last three months.

 

My exit policy is careful with a few /8:80 and high risk ports risk closed and 
most other ports including 443 open.  

So far I have not had any abuse reports, but weary. I would like to keep an eye 
on the exit ports used which arm reports as 443, 5222 (Jabber) 5228 Android, 
and high numbers which makes sense to me.  But cannot see any exit data with Nyx

 

Gerry

 

 

 

 

From: tor-relays <tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org> On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: 21 May 2018 09:20
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Nyx and Arm

 

Hello.

On Sun, 20 May 2018, 21:33 , <ger...@bulger.co.uk <mailto:ger...@bulger.co.uk> 
> wrote:

Arm says I have 3506 outbound
  354 exit

Nyx has long blue list but states 50 outbound.  No mention of exits.   

What am I doing wrong with Nyx?

Gerry

 

As people on this list of said / helped me, Arm is old and buggy, Nyx is new 
and working.

 

There is a bug in Arm where exits are shown errorenously, even showing exits in 
middle (non exit) relays, sometimes causing a fright. Arm can also confusingly 
list concensus updates to be shown as exits.

 

Or maybe you are a new relay and traffic will take to build (see the blog post 
life cycle of a new relay).

 

Hope that helps.

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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx and Arm

[Gary]

Hello.

On Sun, 20 May 2018, 21:33 ,  wrote:

> Arm says I have 3506 outbound
>   354 exit
>
> Nyx has long blue list but states 50 outbound.  No mention of exits.
>
> What am I doing wrong with Nyx?
>
> Gerry
>

As people on this list of said / helped me, Arm is old and buggy, Nyx is
new and working.

There is a bug in Arm where exits are shown errorenously, even showing
exits in middle (non exit) relays, sometimes causing a fright. Arm can also
confusingly list concensus updates to be shown as exits.

Or maybe you are a new relay and traffic will take to build (see the blog
post life cycle of a new relay).

Hope that helps.

>
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Re: [tor-relays] nyx tor controller password

[teor]

> sudo -u debian-tor nyx


> That's it!
> Thanks a lot!

That's not great for security, now nyx can read your tor private keys.
(It probably won't, but still…)

If you add your controller to the debian-tor group, and set the
appropriate options to make your cookie file group-readable,
then nyx can only read those files.

I'm not sure why that isn't working for you.

Does your torrc-defaults or torrc contain:
CookieAuthFileGroupReadable 1

If using a control socket:
ControlPort unix:/path/to/file GroupWritable
ControlPortFileGroupReadable 1

And maybe:
DataDirectoryGroupReadable 1

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx tor controller password

[Gary]

Hello

On 27 April 2018 at 06:36, smichel0  wrote:

> Thanks for reply!
> Cookieauthentication is set on 1.
> I did "sudo adduser $USER debian-tor". (https://trac.torproject.org/
> projects/tor/ticket/25890#comment:1)
> On Raspbian Pi the default user is pi, so I added it as user, but it
> didn't help.
> SMichel
>

Try:

sudo -u debian-tor nyx

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx tor controller password

[smichel0]

Thanks for reply!
Cookieauthentication is set on 1.
I did "sudo adduser $USER debian-tor". 
(https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/25890#comment:1)
On Raspbian Pi the default user is pi, so I added it as user, but it didn't 
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Re: [tor-relays] nyx tor controller password

[teor]

> On 26 Apr 2018, at 23:15, smichel0  wrote:
> 
> I want to monitor my new tor relay (set up on a raspbian pi 3 by migrating my 
> former relay incl. keys) with nyx. When try to start nyx by "nyx" in the 
> command line "Tor controller password" is prompted.
> 
> I can't find a password except the hashpassword in the torrc-file but that 
> doesn't work.
> 
> I tried to set a password by "tor --hash-password " but it didn't 
> work as well.
> 
> When I start nyx with sudo it works and I can see that tor is doing well.

You need to add the user you run nyx as to the debian-tor group.

The instructions are here:
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/25890#comment:1

They should be in the Nyx FAQ or relay guide soon.
I have cc'd the people who are making that change.

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx tor controller password

[Toralf Förster]

On 04/26/2018 03:15 PM, smichel0 wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I want to monitor my new tor relay (set up on a raspbian pi 3 by
> migrating my former relay incl. keys) with nyx. When try to start nyx by
> "nyx" in the command line "Tor controller password" is prompted.
> 
> I can't find a password except the hashpassword in the torrc-file but
> that doesn't work.
> 
> I tried to set a password by "tor --hash-password " but it
> didn't work as well.
> 
> When I start nyx with sudo it works and I can see that tor is doing well.
> 
> Any solutions?
> 
> 
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Re: [tor-relays] nyx question on info on top right side, present on CentOS, missing on Debian.

[Damian Johnson]

> So it seems to be something python2/python3 related. I'm not sure why I used
> python3 to be honest.

Interesting. Can't say there's anything that comes straight to mind
that would cause that. I'd expect python2 and python3 to behave the
same on this front.

> P.S. If you want the logs, do you mind if I send them directly? Then I don't
> have to remove all the other tor node details, which is quite a lot that
> flies by (so this doesn't end up in the public archives - even-though it's
> public info anyway).

Of course. I didn't mean to encourage you to send the logs to the list. :)

Considering your find above the most useful logs would be the working
Debian python2 verses the broken Debian python3.
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Re: [tor-relays] nyx question on info on top right side, present on CentOS, missing on Debian.

[Stijn Jonker]

Hi Stain,

On 4 Feb 2018, at 14:56, Stian Fauskanger wrote:


Hi Stijn,

So I'm running two relays, one is running on CentOS7, the other Debian 
Stretch. On both I have nyx (2.0.4) installed. The "Debian" one is 
missing the CPU, Exit policy etc info. It's not tor version specific, 
as I recently upgraded the tor software on the nodes regularly.


So on the CentOS node I see this on the top at the right;
cpu: 61.3% tor, 5.0% nyx mem: 371 MB (12.4%) pid: 1279 uptime: 
02:59:09

fingerprint: 328E54981C6DDD7D89B89E418724A4A7881E3192
exit policy: reject *:*

On the Debian node it's simply not printing any of these three lines. 
I can't find in the (debug) logging whether an utility or library is 
missing.
It's nothing major, but annoying. Especially with the new alpha 
releases it's nice to keep an eye out on mem/cpu.


I have a similar problem with nyx on FreeBSD 11.1. The CPU, mem, pid, 
uptime, fingerprint and exit policy is only visible when using a 
terminal width of 141-153 characters. You could try this.


I think I found the non-printing at all, python2 vs python3. But when I 
have a smaller terminal (actually most of the time I run then side by 
side in a 55 char width terminal, the lines are printed in one column 
(for me at least - now on both nodes :-)):


nyx - tornode.sjc.nl (Linux 3.10.0-6...)   Tor 0.3.3.1-alpha 
(recommended)

sjc01 - <>:443, Dir Port: 80, Control Port (cookie): 9051
cpu: 73.7% tor, 1.1% nyx   mem: 691 MB (23.1%) pid: 1279   uptime: 
19:09:43

fingerprint: 328E54981C6DDD7D89B89E418724A4A7881E3192
flags: Fast, Guard, Running, Stable, V2Dir, Valid


Stian Fauskanger


Thx,
Stijn

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx question on info on top right side, present on CentOS, missing on Debian.

[Stijn Jonker]

Hi Damian,


On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Stijn Jonker  wrote:

Hi All,



So I'm running two relays, one is running on CentOS7, the other 
Debian
Stretch. On both I have nyx (2.0.4) installed. The "Debian" one is 
missing
the CPU, Exit policy etc info. It's not tor version specific, as I 
recently

upgraded the tor software on the nodes regularly.


On 3 Feb 2018, at 23:58, Damian Johnson wrote:


Hi Stijn, my first thought is that this might be tor's
DisableDebuggerAttachment feature. It causes proc contents to only be
readable by root. Usually this breaks Nyx's connection resolution but
it can prevent resource usage lookups too. Does setting
'DisableDebuggerAttachment 0' in your torrc cause the data to appear?


For both nodes I have DisableDebuggerAttachment set to 0


If not then the next step is to take a peek at the debug logs. If you
send me the logs on both platforms with any data you feel is sensitive
redacted I'd be happy to take a peek. I only need the first five
seconds or so of logs (just need to see the first resource resolution
attempt).


There is a lot to remove in those logs :-), but one thing catched my eye 
whilst comparing both side-2-side (I only looked at the debian one so 
far). The debian one was running nyx via python3, whereby the centos one 
ran it with python2.


I did an pip3 uninstall nyx and then a pip2 install nyx on the debian 
server. Then I had the output on the top right:


cpu: 88.7% tor, 54.8% nyx  mem: 866 MB (21.9%) pid: 1344   uptime: 
19:02:04

fingerprint: 366BC592BC0154C0CD1D35C0E77D8F2C7F0B843E
exit policy: reject *:*

So it seems to be something python2/python3 related. I'm not sure why I 
used python3 to be honest.


P.S. If you want the logs, do you mind if I send them directly? Then I 
don't have to remove all the other tor node details, which is quite a 
lot that flies by (so this doesn't end up in the public archives - 
even-though it's public info anyway).


Thanks!
Stijn



Cheers! -Damian

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx question on info on top right side, present on CentOS, missing on Debian.

[Stian Fauskanger]

Hi Stijn, 





So I'm running two relays, one is running on CentOS7, the other Debian Stretch. 
On both I have nyx (2.0.4) installed. The "Debian" one is missing the CPU, Exit 
policy etc info. It's not tor version specific, as I recently upgraded the tor 
software on the nodes regularly. 

So on the CentOS node I see this on the top at the right; 
cpu: 61.3% tor, 5.0% nyx mem: 371 MB (12.4%) pid: 1279 uptime: 02:59:09 
fingerprint: 328E54981C6DDD7D89B89E418724A4A7881E3192 
exit policy: reject *:* 

On the Debian node it's simply not printing any of these three lines. I can't 
find in the (debug) logging whether an utility or library is missing. 
It's nothing major, but annoying. Especially with the new alpha releases it's 
nice to keep an eye out on mem/cpu. 




I have a similar problem with nyx on FreeBSD 11.1. The CPU, mem, pid, uptime, 
fingerprint and exit policy is only visible when using a terminal width of 
141-153 characters. You could try this. 

~ 
Stian Fauskanger 
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Re: [tor-relays] nyx question on info on top right side, present on CentOS, missing on Debian.

[Damian Johnson]

Hi Stijn, my first thought is that this might be tor's
DisableDebuggerAttachment feature. It causes proc contents to only be
readable by root. Usually this breaks Nyx's connection resolution but
it can prevent resource usage lookups too. Does setting
'DisableDebuggerAttachment 0' in your torrc cause the data to appear?

If not then the next step is to take a peek at the debug logs. If you
send me the logs on both platforms with any data you feel is sensitive
redacted I'd be happy to take a peek. I only need the first five
seconds or so of logs (just need to see the first resource resolution
attempt).

Cheers! -Damian

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Stijn Jonker  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I initially went to the nyx website to find the right forum to ask
> questions. I understood this is the one :-), if not apologies.
>
> So I'm running two relays, one is running on CentOS7, the other Debian
> Stretch. On both I have nyx (2.0.4) installed. The "Debian" one is missing
> the CPU, Exit policy etc info. It's not tor version specific, as I recently
> upgraded the tor software on the nodes regularly.
>
> So on the CentOS node I see this on the top at the right;
> cpu: 61.3% tor, 5.0% nyx mem: 371 MB (12.4%) pid: 1279 uptime: 02:59:09
> fingerprint: 328E54981C6DDD7D89B89E418724A4A7881E3192
> exit policy: reject *:*
>
> On the Debian node it's simply not printing any of these three lines. I
> can't find in the (debug) logging whether an utility or library is missing.
> It's nothing major, but annoying. Especially with the new alpha releases
> it's nice to keep an eye out on mem/cpu.
>
> Does anyone have an idea what the trick is to get it to work on debian?
>
> -- CentOS info:
> [user@tornode ~]$ tor --version
> Tor version 0.3.3.1-alpha (git-de8bc9eed6eaadfc).
>
> [user@tornode ~]$ nyx --version
> nyx version 2.0.4 (released November 5, 2017)
>
> [user@tornode ~]$ uname -a
> Linux tornode.sjc.nl 3.10.0-693.17.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 25 20:13:58
> UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> -- Debian info:
> [maint@tornode2 ~]$ tor --version
> Tor version 0.3.3.1-alpha-dev (git-9e48338a12fd1fef+0f23e7e96).
>
> [user@tornode2 ~]$ nyx --version
> nyx version 2.0.4 (released November 5, 2017)
>
> [user@tornode2 ~]$ uname -a
> Linux tornode2 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04)
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> [user@tornode2 ~]$ lsb_release -c
> Codename: stretch
>
> Thx,
> Stijn
>
>
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Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[John D. McDonnell]

Just to post an update on the list in case someone else comes across this, what 
we found is that nyx is using proc by default to display connections, which 
isn't on FreeBSD by default. The solution is to set DisableDebuggerAttachment 0 
(is defaulted to 1 which prevents users other than root from accessing tor's 
memory) in the torrc or possibly configure FreeBSD to emulate proc. Since this 
server is only really running tor and the only users with login are root (via 
console only) and myself, I opted to set the option in my torrc instead of 
adding complexity to the system. (I also have some sysctl settings that should 
also prevent users other than root and the _tor user from reading tor's memory.)

After setting DisableDebuggerAttachmnet, I am able to see connections on the 
connections page. What I had previously seen occasionally was the circuit 
information, which is retrieved in a different manner from connections. Still 
not sure why it is only showing the circuits randomly. I am still apparently 
having issues with the circuit information showing up as I just noticed when I 
checked the page as I typed this up, the circuits have disappeared from the 
list again.

--
John McDonnell

-Original Message-
From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of 
Damian Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:24 PM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

Hi John, simply run 'nyx --debug' as discussed with Arisbe on this thread.

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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:18 AM, John D. McDonnell <mcdon...@pcam.org> wrote:
> What logs do you need? I only logging at notice level in tor, so they're not 
> any help.
>
> --
> John McDonnell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf 
> Of Damian Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:58 AM
> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>
> Hi John, I require the redacted logs to be able to help at all.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:32 AM, John D. McDonnell <mcdon...@pcam.org> wrote:
>> Logged back in to check on it again this morning, and nyx is back to not 
>> displaying any connections on the 2nd page.
>>
>> --
>> John McDonnell
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John D. McDonnell
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:25 PM
>> To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
>> Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>>
>> Just updated FreeBSD and updated tor to 0.3.2.9 and rebooted the whole 
>> server and nyx is working properly again. I'm thinking something was hanging 
>> in the background or something that the reboot fixed, though I'm not sure 
>> what it could have been. (Python and nyx are still the same versions, so I'm 
>> thinking my updates didn't fix it but the reboot fixed whatever was hung in 
>> the background. Maybe I'll check on my other relay to see if I can figure 
>> out what specifically is causing it to not show connections.)
>>
>> --
>> John McDonnell
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John D. McDonnell
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:02 PM
>> To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
>> Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>>
>> Nyx was working fine until sometime last week when I had the same issue 
>> where the connection page was suddenly blank. It came back a while later but 
>> then went blank again. I just checked again and the connections page is 
>> still coming up as blank. I'm also on FreeBSD running tor 0.3.1.9.
>>
>> FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p4
>> tor-0.3.1.9_1
>> python27-2.7.14_1
>> py27-nyx-2.0.4
>>
>> I'm not sure when exactly I noticed the connections page started showing up 
>> as blank as I usually only spot check the first page and maybe check the 
>> notices.log file.
>>
>> I'm going to check for updates and then see what happens after.
>>
>> --
>> John McDonnell
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf 
>> Of TorGate
>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 7:14 PM
>> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
>> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>>
>> Thank y

Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[Damian Johnson]

Hi John, simply run 'nyx --debug' as discussed with Arisbe on this thread.

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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:18 AM, John D. McDonnell <mcdon...@pcam.org> wrote:
> What logs do you need? I only logging at notice level in tor, so they're not 
> any help.
>
> --
> John McDonnell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf 
> Of Damian Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:58 AM
> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>
> Hi John, I require the redacted logs to be able to help at all.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:32 AM, John D. McDonnell <mcdon...@pcam.org> wrote:
>> Logged back in to check on it again this morning, and nyx is back to not 
>> displaying any connections on the 2nd page.
>>
>> --
>> John McDonnell
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John D. McDonnell
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:25 PM
>> To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
>> Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>>
>> Just updated FreeBSD and updated tor to 0.3.2.9 and rebooted the whole 
>> server and nyx is working properly again. I'm thinking something was hanging 
>> in the background or something that the reboot fixed, though I'm not sure 
>> what it could have been. (Python and nyx are still the same versions, so I'm 
>> thinking my updates didn't fix it but the reboot fixed whatever was hung in 
>> the background. Maybe I'll check on my other relay to see if I can figure 
>> out what specifically is causing it to not show connections.)
>>
>> --
>> John McDonnell
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John D. McDonnell
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:02 PM
>> To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
>> Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>>
>> Nyx was working fine until sometime last week when I had the same issue 
>> where the connection page was suddenly blank. It came back a while later but 
>> then went blank again. I just checked again and the connections page is 
>> still coming up as blank. I'm also on FreeBSD running tor 0.3.1.9.
>>
>> FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p4
>> tor-0.3.1.9_1
>> python27-2.7.14_1
>> py27-nyx-2.0.4
>>
>> I'm not sure when exactly I noticed the connections page started showing up 
>> as blank as I usually only spot check the first page and maybe check the 
>> notices.log file.
>>
>> I'm going to check for updates and then see what happens after.
>>
>> --
>> John McDonnell
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf 
>> Of TorGate
>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 7:14 PM
>> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
>> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>>
>> Thank you, its working :-)
>> But can i also show connections ?
>>
>> Steffen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 15.01.2018 um 23:49 schrieb Damian Johnson <ata...@torproject.org 
>> <mailto:ata...@torproject.org> >:
>>
>> Thanks Arisbe! This is useful.
>>
>>> 1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to come 
>>> visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually but sometimes 
>>> takes 10 minutes;
>>
>>
>> Weird. Nyx should be quicker in that respect than the old arm codebase. 
>> Please run 'nyx --debug' and send me the debug log, minus anything you think 
>> is sensitive.
>>
>>> 2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed by IP only 
>>> and not sorted by inbound/outbound;
>>
>>
>> Not sure I follow. Is this purely a sorting issue or are inbound/outbound 
>> not properly labeled? This is something a screenshot might help with.
>>
>>> 3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather all just 
>>> have (??);
>>
>>
>> Hopefully the debug log will help with this too. This should be coming from 
>> tor.
>>
>>> 4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc
>>
>>
>> Yup, the nyxrc options are different from the old armrc. They're listed on...
>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnyx.torproject.org%2F%23configuration=02%7C01%7C%7Ca256bea416dd493a69d108d55dc441dd%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0

Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[John D. McDonnell]

What logs do you need? I only logging at notice level in tor, so they're not 
any help.

--
John McDonnell

-Original Message-
From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of 
Damian Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:58 AM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

Hi John, I require the redacted logs to be able to help at all.


On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:32 AM, John D. McDonnell <mcdon...@pcam.org> wrote:
> Logged back in to check on it again this morning, and nyx is back to not 
> displaying any connections on the 2nd page.
>
> --
> John McDonnell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John D. McDonnell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:25 PM
> To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
> Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>
> Just updated FreeBSD and updated tor to 0.3.2.9 and rebooted the whole server 
> and nyx is working properly again. I'm thinking something was hanging in the 
> background or something that the reboot fixed, though I'm not sure what it 
> could have been. (Python and nyx are still the same versions, so I'm thinking 
> my updates didn't fix it but the reboot fixed whatever was hung in the 
> background. Maybe I'll check on my other relay to see if I can figure out 
> what specifically is causing it to not show connections.)
>
> --
> John McDonnell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John D. McDonnell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:02 PM
> To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
> Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>
> Nyx was working fine until sometime last week when I had the same issue where 
> the connection page was suddenly blank. It came back a while later but then 
> went blank again. I just checked again and the connections page is still 
> coming up as blank. I'm also on FreeBSD running tor 0.3.1.9.
>
> FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p4
> tor-0.3.1.9_1
> python27-2.7.14_1
> py27-nyx-2.0.4
>
> I'm not sure when exactly I noticed the connections page started showing up 
> as blank as I usually only spot check the first page and maybe check the 
> notices.log file.
>
> I'm going to check for updates and then see what happens after.
>
> --
> John McDonnell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf 
> Of TorGate
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 7:14 PM
> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>
> Thank you, its working :-)
> But can i also show connections ?
>
> Steffen
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.01.2018 um 23:49 schrieb Damian Johnson <ata...@torproject.org 
> <mailto:ata...@torproject.org> >:
>
> Thanks Arisbe! This is useful.
>
>> 1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to come 
>> visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually but sometimes 
>> takes 10 minutes;
>
>
> Weird. Nyx should be quicker in that respect than the old arm codebase. 
> Please run 'nyx --debug' and send me the debug log, minus anything you think 
> is sensitive.
>
>> 2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed by IP only 
>> and not sorted by inbound/outbound;
>
>
> Not sure I follow. Is this purely a sorting issue or are inbound/outbound not 
> properly labeled? This is something a screenshot might help with.
>
>> 3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather all just have 
>> (??);
>
>
> Hopefully the debug log will help with this too. This should be coming from 
> tor.
>
>> 4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc
>
>
> Yup, the nyxrc options are different from the old armrc. They're listed on...
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnyx.torproject.org%2F%23configuration=02%7C01%7C%7Ca256bea416dd493a69d108d55dc441dd%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636518019875476846=g%2B38U4%2BpgV21I9V4ENHnlv1qKqjfhDGhRci8Xeq55vI%3D=0
>  
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnyx.torproject.org%2F%23configuration=02%7C01%7C%7Caa6bedc69ca04acb280908d55c76131d%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636516584561576746=63h7wDPnpf1ATZWjivaoHM%2Bx0gqx%2F7eQcw3E0GxP7nc%3D=0>
>
>> 5)  There is no man page for nyx.
>
>
> Actually, there is.
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitweb.torproject.org%2Fnyx.git%2Ftree%2Fnyx.1=02%7C01%7C%7Ca256bea416dd493a69d108d55dc441dd%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636518019875476846=jKPwn%2FDB9UawDaczLJyPsdlLkS5OZS1Cq

Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[Damian Johnson]

Hi John, I require the redacted logs to be able to help at all.


On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 6:32 AM, John D. McDonnell <mcdon...@pcam.org> wrote:
> Logged back in to check on it again this morning, and nyx is back to not 
> displaying any connections on the 2nd page.
>
> --
> John McDonnell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John D. McDonnell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:25 PM
> To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
> Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>
> Just updated FreeBSD and updated tor to 0.3.2.9 and rebooted the whole server 
> and nyx is working properly again. I'm thinking something was hanging in the 
> background or something that the reboot fixed, though I'm not sure what it 
> could have been. (Python and nyx are still the same versions, so I'm thinking 
> my updates didn't fix it but the reboot fixed whatever was hung in the 
> background. Maybe I'll check on my other relay to see if I can figure out 
> what specifically is causing it to not show connections.)
>
> --
> John McDonnell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John D. McDonnell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:02 PM
> To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
> Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>
> Nyx was working fine until sometime last week when I had the same issue where 
> the connection page was suddenly blank. It came back a while later but then 
> went blank again. I just checked again and the connections page is still 
> coming up as blank. I'm also on FreeBSD running tor 0.3.1.9.
>
> FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p4
> tor-0.3.1.9_1
> python27-2.7.14_1
> py27-nyx-2.0.4
>
> I'm not sure when exactly I noticed the connections page started showing up 
> as blank as I usually only spot check the first page and maybe check the 
> notices.log file.
>
> I'm going to check for updates and then see what happens after.
>
> --
> John McDonnell
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf 
> Of TorGate
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 7:14 PM
> To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown
>
> Thank you, its working :-)
> But can i also show connections ?
>
> Steffen
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.01.2018 um 23:49 schrieb Damian Johnson <ata...@torproject.org 
> <mailto:ata...@torproject.org> >:
>
> Thanks Arisbe! This is useful.
>
>> 1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to come 
>> visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually but sometimes 
>> takes 10 minutes;
>
>
> Weird. Nyx should be quicker in that respect than the old arm codebase. 
> Please run 'nyx --debug' and send me the debug log, minus anything you think 
> is sensitive.
>
>> 2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed by IP only 
>> and not sorted by inbound/outbound;
>
>
> Not sure I follow. Is this purely a sorting issue or are inbound/outbound not 
> properly labeled? This is something a screenshot might help with.
>
>> 3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather all just have 
>> (??);
>
>
> Hopefully the debug log will help with this too. This should be coming from 
> tor.
>
>> 4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc
>
>
> Yup, the nyxrc options are different from the old armrc. They're listed on...
>
> https://nyx.torproject.org/#configuration 
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnyx.torproject.org%2F%23configuration=02%7C01%7C%7Caa6bedc69ca04acb280908d55c76131d%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636516584561576746=63h7wDPnpf1ATZWjivaoHM%2Bx0gqx%2F7eQcw3E0GxP7nc%3D=0>
>
>> 5)  There is no man page for nyx.
>
>
> Actually, there is.
>
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/nyx.git/tree/nyx.1 
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitweb.torproject.org%2Fnyx.git%2Ftree%2Fnyx.1=02%7C01%7C%7Caa6bedc69ca04acb280908d55c76131d%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636516584561576746=Zn4uJiRKtphBf96feG9jRK4UAadqMvEzGZx8bDLYv6I%3D=0>
>
>
> Arm attempted to guess where to install it when you ran 'python setup.py 
> install' but doing so caused problems. Unfortunately the path man pages are 
> located at varies by the platform so I now leave it up to package managers 
> (yum, emerge, etc). Are you on Debian or Ubuntu? That's the most common pain 
> point right now - a package will hopefully be available for those soonish.
>
>
> Cheers! -Damian
>
> ___
> tor-re

Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[John D. McDonnell]

Logged back in to check on it again this morning, and nyx is back to not 
displaying any connections on the 2nd page.

--
John McDonnell

-Original Message-
From: John D. McDonnell
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:25 PM
To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

Just updated FreeBSD and updated tor to 0.3.2.9 and rebooted the whole server 
and nyx is working properly again. I'm thinking something was hanging in the 
background or something that the reboot fixed, though I'm not sure what it 
could have been. (Python and nyx are still the same versions, so I'm thinking 
my updates didn't fix it but the reboot fixed whatever was hung in the 
background. Maybe I'll check on my other relay to see if I can figure out what 
specifically is causing it to not show connections.)

--
John McDonnell

-Original Message-
From: John D. McDonnell
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:02 PM
To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

Nyx was working fine until sometime last week when I had the same issue where 
the connection page was suddenly blank. It came back a while later but then 
went blank again. I just checked again and the connections page is still coming 
up as blank. I'm also on FreeBSD running tor 0.3.1.9.

FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p4
tor-0.3.1.9_1
python27-2.7.14_1
py27-nyx-2.0.4

I'm not sure when exactly I noticed the connections page started showing up as 
blank as I usually only spot check the first page and maybe check the 
notices.log file.

I'm going to check for updates and then see what happens after.

--
John McDonnell

-Original Message-
From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of 
TorGate
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 7:14 PM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

Thank you, its working :-)
But can i also show connections ?

Steffen





Am 15.01.2018 um 23:49 schrieb Damian Johnson <ata...@torproject.org 
<mailto:ata...@torproject.org> >:

Thanks Arisbe! This is useful.

> 1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to come 
> visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually but sometimes 
> takes 10 minutes;


Weird. Nyx should be quicker in that respect than the old arm codebase. Please 
run 'nyx --debug' and send me the debug log, minus anything you think is 
sensitive.

> 2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed by IP only 
> and not sorted by inbound/outbound;


Not sure I follow. Is this purely a sorting issue or are inbound/outbound not 
properly labeled? This is something a screenshot might help with.

> 3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather all just have 
> (??);


Hopefully the debug log will help with this too. This should be coming from tor.

> 4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc


Yup, the nyxrc options are different from the old armrc. They're listed on...

https://nyx.torproject.org/#configuration 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnyx.torproject.org%2F%23configuration=02%7C01%7C%7Caa6bedc69ca04acb280908d55c76131d%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636516584561576746=63h7wDPnpf1ATZWjivaoHM%2Bx0gqx%2F7eQcw3E0GxP7nc%3D=0>

> 5)  There is no man page for nyx.


Actually, there is.

https://gitweb.torproject.org/nyx.git/tree/nyx.1 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitweb.torproject.org%2Fnyx.git%2Ftree%2Fnyx.1=02%7C01%7C%7Caa6bedc69ca04acb280908d55c76131d%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636516584561576746=Zn4uJiRKtphBf96feG9jRK4UAadqMvEzGZx8bDLYv6I%3D=0>


Arm attempted to guess where to install it when you ran 'python setup.py 
install' but doing so caused problems. Unfortunately the path man pages are 
located at varies by the platform so I now leave it up to package managers 
(yum, emerge, etc). Are you on Debian or Ubuntu? That's the most common pain 
point right now - a package will hopefully be available for those soonish.


Cheers! -Damian

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[John D. McDonnell]

Just updated FreeBSD and updated tor to 0.3.2.9 and rebooted the whole server 
and nyx is working properly again. I'm thinking something was hanging in the 
background or something that the reboot fixed, though I'm not sure what it 
could have been. (Python and nyx are still the same versions, so I'm thinking 
my updates didn't fix it but the reboot fixed whatever was hung in the 
background. Maybe I'll check on my other relay to see if I can figure out what 
specifically is causing it to not show connections.)

--
John McDonnell

-Original Message-
From: John D. McDonnell
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:02 PM
To: 'tor-relays@lists.torproject.org' <tor-relays@lists.torproject.org>
Subject: RE: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

Nyx was working fine until sometime last week when I had the same issue where 
the connection page was suddenly blank. It came back a while later but then 
went blank again. I just checked again and the connections page is still coming 
up as blank. I'm also on FreeBSD running tor 0.3.1.9.

FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p4
tor-0.3.1.9_1
python27-2.7.14_1
py27-nyx-2.0.4

I'm not sure when exactly I noticed the connections page started showing up as 
blank as I usually only spot check the first page and maybe check the 
notices.log file.

I'm going to check for updates and then see what happens after.

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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 7:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

Thank you, its working :-)
But can i also show connections ?

Steffen





Am 15.01.2018 um 23:49 schrieb Damian Johnson <ata...@torproject.org 
<mailto:ata...@torproject.org> >:

Thanks Arisbe! This is useful.

> 1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to come 
> visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually but sometimes 
> takes 10 minutes;


Weird. Nyx should be quicker in that respect than the old arm codebase. Please 
run 'nyx --debug' and send me the debug log, minus anything you think is 
sensitive.

> 2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed by IP only 
> and not sorted by inbound/outbound;


Not sure I follow. Is this purely a sorting issue or are inbound/outbound not 
properly labeled? This is something a screenshot might help with.

> 3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather all just have 
> (??);


Hopefully the debug log will help with this too. This should be coming from tor.

> 4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc


Yup, the nyxrc options are different from the old armrc. They're listed on...

https://nyx.torproject.org/#configuration 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnyx.torproject.org%2F%23configuration=02%7C01%7C%7Caa6bedc69ca04acb280908d55c76131d%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636516584561576746=63h7wDPnpf1ATZWjivaoHM%2Bx0gqx%2F7eQcw3E0GxP7nc%3D=0>

> 5)  There is no man page for nyx.


Actually, there is.

https://gitweb.torproject.org/nyx.git/tree/nyx.1 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitweb.torproject.org%2Fnyx.git%2Ftree%2Fnyx.1=02%7C01%7C%7Caa6bedc69ca04acb280908d55c76131d%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636516584561576746=Zn4uJiRKtphBf96feG9jRK4UAadqMvEzGZx8bDLYv6I%3D=0>


Arm attempted to guess where to install it when you ran 'python setup.py 
install' but doing so caused problems. Unfortunately the path man pages are 
located at varies by the platform so I now leave it up to package managers 
(yum, emerge, etc). Are you on Debian or Ubuntu? That's the most common pain 
point right now - a package will hopefully be available for those soonish.


Cheers! -Damian

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[John D. McDonnell]

Nyx was working fine until sometime last week when I had the same issue where 
the connection page was suddenly blank. It came back a while later but then 
went blank again. I just checked again and the connections page is still coming 
up as blank. I'm also on FreeBSD running tor 0.3.1.9.

FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p4
tor-0.3.1.9_1
python27-2.7.14_1
py27-nyx-2.0.4

I'm not sure when exactly I noticed the connections page started showing up as 
blank as I usually only spot check the first page and maybe check the 
notices.log file.

I'm going to check for updates and then see what happens after.

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Penn Cambria School District

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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 7:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

Thank you, its working :-)
But can i also show connections ?

Steffen





Am 15.01.2018 um 23:49 schrieb Damian Johnson <ata...@torproject.org 
<mailto:ata...@torproject.org> >:

Thanks Arisbe! This is useful.

> 1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to come 
> visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually but sometimes 
> takes 10 minutes;


Weird. Nyx should be quicker in that respect than the old arm codebase. Please 
run 'nyx --debug' and send me the debug log, minus anything you think is 
sensitive.

> 2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed by IP only 
> and not sorted by inbound/outbound;


Not sure I follow. Is this purely a sorting issue or are inbound/outbound not 
properly labeled? This is something a screenshot might help with.

> 3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather all just have 
> (??);


Hopefully the debug log will help with this too. This should be coming from tor.

> 4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc


Yup, the nyxrc options are different from the old armrc. They're listed on...

https://nyx.torproject.org/#configuration 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnyx.torproject.org%2F%23configuration=02%7C01%7C%7Caa6bedc69ca04acb280908d55c76131d%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636516584561576746=63h7wDPnpf1ATZWjivaoHM%2Bx0gqx%2F7eQcw3E0GxP7nc%3D=0>

> 5)  There is no man page for nyx.


Actually, there is.

https://gitweb.torproject.org/nyx.git/tree/nyx.1 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitweb.torproject.org%2Fnyx.git%2Ftree%2Fnyx.1=02%7C01%7C%7Caa6bedc69ca04acb280908d55c76131d%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636516584561576746=Zn4uJiRKtphBf96feG9jRK4UAadqMvEzGZx8bDLYv6I%3D=0>


Arm attempted to guess where to install it when you ran 'python setup.py 
install' but doing so caused problems. Unfortunately the path man pages are 
located at varies by the platform so I now leave it up to package managers 
(yum, emerge, etc). Are you on Debian or Ubuntu? That's the most common pain 
point right now - a package will hopefully be available for those soonish.


Cheers! -Damian

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[TorGate]

Thank you, its working :-)
But can i also show connections ?

Steffen



> Am 15.01.2018 um 23:49 schrieb Damian Johnson :
> 
> Thanks Arisbe! This is useful.
> 
> > 1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to come 
> > visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually but sometimes 
> > takes 10 minutes;
> 
> Weird. Nyx should be quicker in that respect than the old arm codebase. 
> Please run 'nyx --debug' and send me the debug log, minus anything you think 
> is sensitive.
> 
> > 2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed by IP only 
> > and not sorted by inbound/outbound;
> 
> Not sure I follow. Is this purely a sorting issue or are inbound/outbound not 
> properly labeled? This is something a screenshot might help with.
> 
> > 3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather all just 
> > have (??);
> 
> Hopefully the debug log will help with this too. This should be coming from 
> tor.
> 
> > 4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc
> 
> Yup, the nyxrc options are different from the old armrc. They're listed on...
> 
> https://nyx.torproject.org/#configuration 
> 
> 
> > 5)  There is no man page for nyx.
> 
> Actually, there is.
> 
> https://gitweb.torproject.org/nyx.git/tree/nyx.1 
> 
> 
> Arm attempted to guess where to install it when you ran 'python setup.py 
> install' but doing so caused problems. Unfortunately the path man pages are 
> located at varies by the platform so I now leave it up to package managers 
> (yum, emerge, etc). Are you on Debian or Ubuntu? That's the most common pain 
> point right now - a package will hopefully be available for those soonish.
> 
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Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[Damian Johnson]

Thanks Arisbe! This is useful.

> 1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to come
visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually but sometimes
takes 10 minutes;

Weird. Nyx should be quicker in that respect than the old arm codebase.
Please run 'nyx --debug' and send me the debug log, minus anything you
think is sensitive.

> 2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed by IP
only and not sorted by inbound/outbound;

Not sure I follow. Is this purely a sorting issue or are inbound/outbound
not properly labeled? This is something a screenshot might help with.

> 3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather all just
have (??);

Hopefully the debug log will help with this too. This should be coming from
tor.

> 4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc

Yup, the nyxrc options are different from the old armrc. They're listed
on...

https://nyx.torproject.org/#configuration

> 5)  There is no man page for nyx.

Actually, there is.

https://gitweb.torproject.org/nyx.git/tree/nyx.1

Arm attempted to guess where to install it when you ran 'python setup.py
install' but doing so caused problems. Unfortunately the path man pages are
located at varies by the platform so I now leave it up to package managers
(yum, emerge, etc). Are you on Debian or Ubuntu? That's the most common
pain point right now - a package will hopefully be available for those
soonish.

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[TorGate]

Nabend and Hi to all,
ok i try with onion box.



> Am 15.01.2018 um 22:52 schrieb Arisbe :
> 
> I installed nyx on several on my smaller non-exit/guard relays.  I'm hopeful 
> this will replace the problems I have with arm but I'm finding a number of 
> issues:
> 
> 1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to come 
> visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually but sometimes 
> takes 10 minutes;
> 
> 2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed by IP only 
> and not sorted by inbound/outbound;
> 
> 3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather all just have 
> (??);
> 4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc.  Specifically, I had to # out 
> tor_chroot, color_override and logged_events.  I had to specifically enter 
> options for connection_order as nyx did not recognize the default value.  nyx 
> did not recognize the values for logged_ events or config_order when typed in;
> 
> 5)  There is no man page for nyx.
> Thanks so much for your effort on this project.  I'm sorry to be the bearer 
> of a bad feedback.  Don't kill the messenger!
> 
> On 1/15/2018 11:55 AM, Uli wrote:
>> Hi Steffen
>> do you tried any other monitoring tool?
>> the onion box or something else, maybe.
>> perhaps this will give us a hint, if nyx or tor is buggy ...
>> greetings
>> Uli
>> 
>> Am 15.01.2018 um 20:40 schrieb TorGate:
>>> Hi again, the same issue again.
>>> after couple of times, no connections shown on page 2 in nyx.
>>> connection is via ssh.
>>> 
>>> (FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE)  Tor 0.3.1.9 (recommended)
>>> 
>>> hm no ideas ? :-)
>>> 
>>> regards Steffen
>>> 
 Am 14.01.2018 um 21:01 schrieb TorGate >:
 
 is working again :-)
 
> Am 14.01.2018 um 16:39 schrieb TorGate  >:
> 
> I have also restartet tor but isnt working.
> There are no connections shown.
> 
> system is freebsd and py2.7
> 
> Ideas ???
> 
>> Am 14.01.2018 um 12:26 schrieb TorGate > >:
>> 
>> Hi, i have 2 new relais running and have also installed nyx.
>> When i go to the page 2 in nyx is there no connection.
>> But my network show me over 4000 tor connections .
>> 
>> What is the issue with nyx on my torservers ?
>> 
>> TorGate
>> torgate(at)linux-hus.dk 
>> 
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[Arisbe]

  
  
I installed nyx on several on my smaller non-exit/guard relays. 
  I'm hopeful this will replace the problems I have with arm but I'm
  finding a number of issues:
1)  nyx is way slow to start up.  Sometimes taking 20 seconds to
  come visible.  The contacts page (page 2) does come up eventually
  but sometimes takes 10 minutes;
2)  the inbound and outbound connections on page two are listed
  by IP only and not sorted by inbound/outbound;
3)  IP addresses do not have country identification but rather
  all just have (??); 

4)  nyx rejects some of the options in nyxrc.  Specifically, I
  had to # out tor_chroot, color_override and logged_events.  I had
  to specifically enter options for connection_order as nyx did not
  recognize the default value.  nyx did not recognize the values for
  logged_ events or config_order when typed in;
5)  There is no man page for nyx.  

Thanks so much for your effort on this project.  I'm sorry to be
  the bearer of a bad feedback.  Don't kill the messenger!


On 1/15/2018 11:55 AM, Uli wrote:


  
  Hi Steffen
  
  do you tried any other monitoring tool?
the onion box or something else, maybe.
perhaps this will give us a hint, if nyx or tor is buggy ...
  
  greetings
  Uli
  
  Am 15.01.2018 um 20:40 schrieb
TorGate:
  
  

Hi again, the same issue again.
after couple of times, no connections shown on
  page 2 in nyx.
connection is via ssh.



  (FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE)     
  Tor 0.3.1.9 (recommended)
  
  
  hm no ideas ? :-)
  
  
  regards Steffen
  

  Am 14.01.2018 um 21:01 schrieb TorGate :
  
  

is
  working again :-)
  

  Am 14.01.2018 um 16:39 schrieb
TorGate :
  
  

I have also
  restartet tor but isnt working.
  There are no connections shown.
  
  
  system is freebsd and py2.7
  
  
  Ideas ???

  
Am 14.01.2018 um 12:26
  schrieb TorGate :


  
  Hi, i have 2 new relais
running and have also installed nyx.
When i go to the page
  2 in nyx is there no connection.
But my network show me
  over 4000 tor connections .


What is the issue with
  nyx on my torservers ?

  
TorGate
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[Uli]

Hi Steffen

do you tried any other monitoring tool?
the onion box or something else, maybe.
perhaps this will give us a hint, if nyx or tor is buggy ...

greetings
Uli

Am 15.01.2018 um 20:40 schrieb TorGate:
> Hi again, the same issue again.
> after couple of times, no connections shown on page 2 in nyx.
> connection is via ssh.
>
> (FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE)      Tor 0.3.1.9 (recommended)
>
> hm no ideas ? :-)
>
> regards Steffen
>
>> Am 14.01.2018 um 21:01 schrieb TorGate > >:
>>
>> is working again :-)
>>
>>> Am 14.01.2018 um 16:39 schrieb TorGate >> >:
>>>
>>> I have also restartet tor but isnt working.
>>> There are no connections shown.
>>>
>>> system is freebsd and py2.7
>>>
>>> Ideas ???
>>>
 Am 14.01.2018 um 12:26 schrieb TorGate >:

 Hi, i have 2 new relais running and have also installed nyx.
 When i go to the page 2 in nyx is there no connection.
 But my network show me over 4000 tor connections .

 What is the issue with nyx on my torservers ?

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Re: [tor-relays] nyx no connections shown

[TorGate]

Hi again, the same issue again.
after couple of times, no connections shown on page 2 in nyx.
connection is via ssh.

(FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE)  Tor 0.3.1.9 (recommended)

hm no ideas ? :-)

regards Steffen

> Am 14.01.2018 um 21:01 schrieb TorGate :
> 
> is working again :-)
> 
>> Am 14.01.2018 um 16:39 schrieb TorGate > >:
>> 
>> I have also restartet tor but isnt working.
>> There are no connections shown.
>> 
>> system is freebsd and py2.7
>> 
>> Ideas ???
>> 
>>> Am 14.01.2018 um 12:26 schrieb TorGate >> >:
>>> 
>>> Hi, i have 2 new relais running and have also installed nyx.
>>> When i go to the page 2 in nyx is there no connection.
>>> But my network show me over 4000 tor connections .
>>> 
>>> What is the issue with nyx on my torservers ?
>>> 
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[TorGate]

is working again :-)

> Am 14.01.2018 um 16:39 schrieb TorGate :
> 
> I have also restartet tor but isnt working.
> There are no connections shown.
> 
> system is freebsd and py2.7
> 
> Ideas ???
> 
>> Am 14.01.2018 um 12:26 schrieb TorGate > >:
>> 
>> Hi, i have 2 new relais running and have also installed nyx.
>> When i go to the page 2 in nyx is there no connection.
>> But my network show me over 4000 tor connections .
>> 
>> What is the issue with nyx on my torservers ?
>> 
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[TorGate]

I have also restartet tor but isnt working.
There are no connections shown.

system is freebsd and py2.7

Ideas ???

> Am 14.01.2018 um 12:26 schrieb TorGate :
> 
> Hi, i have 2 new relais running and have also installed nyx.
> When i go to the page 2 in nyx is there no connection.
> But my network show me over 4000 tor connections .
> 
> What is the issue with nyx on my torservers ?
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx reported speed

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> On 10 Jan 2018, at 00:19, John D. McDonnell  wrote:
> 
> If I get the chance to head to the other building where I have the other 
> relay connected, I'll try connecting it directly to the internet and see how 
> that affects the usage. (pf is set to not allow any connections besides 
> ORport, DirPort, SSH, 80, and 443, so it should be fairly secure. Though I've 
> not tested my rules to redirect 80 and 443 to DirPort and ORPort as my router 
> was doing that for me.) On that note, if I plug directly in, I will also get 
> an IPv6 address. Do I need to do anything besides set "IPv6Exit 1" to use it 
> as an IPv6 exit?

No, setting "IPv6Exit 1" is enough.

> (Do I need to set the IPv6 OR port. It is not a static IP address and I don't 
> know how often it will be forced to change.)

Your IPv6 address is not static?
That's unfortunate. And unusual.

Tor doesn't automatically detect IPv6 addresses yet.
And if your IPv6 address changes, the directory authorities will mark
it as down. So please *don't* set the IPv6 ORPort.

T

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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx reported speed

[John D. McDonnell]

I actually just logged into the one in my office to check on it. CPU is around 
25%, RAM is ~30% free, 5111 connections. According to nyx, download is a pretty 
steady 500KB/s, to be expected with it limited at 500 with bursting to 600; and 
upload is fairly consistent around 350KB/s, a bit lower than expected, but 
perhaps due to this connection having some minor usage besides Tor might be the 
reason. (I think I'll try moving the cellular gateway to our main connection to 
see if that improves the upload on Tor.)

Perhaps the e1200 just can't handle the load like this Belkin can. It's sitting 
with CPU around 17%, RAM ~20% free, and ~2000 connections. But nyx is reporting 
very inconsistent speeds from 2KB/s to 600KB/s (though mostly topping out in 
the 20-40KB/s range) while I've been watching it this morning. The Tor server 
is a clone of the one in my office (Who knew these Barracuda's were actually 
useful for something?! lol) with the same hardware, software, and config, with 
the obvious exceptions of the IP addresses and names so I know the speed issue 
is probably not the server. And this is the one that is not sharing at all but 
only used for Tor.

(The routers are also configured the same, other than the hardware (different 
chipset and slightly slower CPU on the Linksys) and network differences. And 
the one in my office has the WiFi enabled while the other does not.)

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Subject: RE: [tor-relays] Nyx reported speed

I wondered if that might be the case. These are spare internet connections that 
we have for free, so we don't really want to put any resources into them as we 
don't actually use them. The one in my office we do have hooked up to a postal 
machine and cellular gateway and use for testing purposes, but the ones in our 
other buildings we don't use. I actually just upgraded the one in my office 
(curtesy of Goodwill for $4) from a v8 WRT54G (one of the crippled almost no 
RAM or ROM space) to the Belkin with 32MB of RAM which matches the Linksys 
e1200's RAM. I have both of them set for something like 32000 connections and I 
observed the one yesterday was sitting around 3000 connections with CPU and RAM 
resources still available. (I believe I read on DD-WRT's site somewhere that 
with 16MB of RAM it can support 32000 connections, though I've no first-hand 
experience with this, other than what I'm running now.)

If I get the chance to head to the other building where I have the other relay 
connected, I'll try connecting it directly to the internet and see how that 
affects the usage. (pf is set to not allow any connections besides ORport, 
DirPort, SSH, 80, and 443, so it should be fairly secure. Though I've not 
tested my rules to redirect 80 and 443 to DirPort and ORPort as my router was 
doing that for me.) On that note, if I plug directly in, I will also get an 
IPv6 address. Do I need to do anything besides set "IPv6Exit 1" to use it as an 
IPv6 exit? (Do I need to set the IPv6 OR port. It is not a static IP address 
and I don't know how often it will be forced to change.)

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> On 9 Jan 2018, at 05:56, John D. McDonnell <mcdon...@pcam.org> wrote:
>
> I'd appreciate any tips and pointers you can send my way. And if the
> consumer routers are the issue, I can move my one exit relay to one of
> the other connections I have and not use it at the location (or just
> run one that's slower) where I do use this backup internet connection.
> (It's handy to have a network that's not part of our internal network
> for testing.)

In our experience, most consumer routers don't support the 6000 simultaneous 
connections that Tor uses. I'd encourage you to try a different router, or an 
alternate connection, and see how that goes.

T
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx reported speed

[John D. McDonnell]

I wondered if that might be the case. These are spare internet connections that 
we have for free, so we don't really want to put any resources into them as we 
don't actually use them. The one in my office we do have hooked up to a postal 
machine and cellular gateway and use for testing purposes, but the ones in our 
other buildings we don't use. I actually just upgraded the one in my office 
(curtesy of Goodwill for $4) from a v8 WRT54G (one of the crippled almost no 
RAM or ROM space) to the Belkin with 32MB of RAM which matches the Linksys 
e1200's RAM. I have both of them set for something like 32000 connections and I 
observed the one yesterday was sitting around 3000 connections with CPU and RAM 
resources still available. (I believe I read on DD-WRT's site somewhere that 
with 16MB of RAM it can support 32000 connections, though I've no first-hand 
experience with this, other than what I'm running now.)

If I get the chance to head to the other building where I have the other relay 
connected, I'll try connecting it directly to the internet and see how that 
affects the usage. (pf is set to not allow any connections besides ORport, 
DirPort, SSH, 80, and 443, so it should be fairly secure. Though I've not 
tested my rules to redirect 80 and 443 to DirPort and ORPort as my router was 
doing that for me.) On that note, if I plug directly in, I will also get an 
IPv6 address. Do I need to do anything besides set "IPv6Exit 1" to use it as an 
IPv6 exit? (Do I need to set the IPv6 OR port. It is not a static IP address 
and I don't know how often it will be forced to change.)

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> On 9 Jan 2018, at 05:56, John D. McDonnell <mcdon...@pcam.org> wrote:
>
> I'd appreciate any tips and pointers you can send my way. And if the
> consumer routers are the issue, I can move my one exit relay to one of
> the other connections I have and not use it at the location (or just
> run one that's slower) where I do use this backup internet connection.
> (It's handy to have a network that's not part of our internal network
> for testing.)

In our experience, most consumer routers don't support the 6000 simultaneous 
connections that Tor uses. I'd encourage you to try a different router, or an 
alternate connection, and see how that goes.

T
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx reported speed

[John D. McDonnell]

Yeah, I've read the lifecycle of a new relay but since I'm running exits, I 
thought it might try to use more of my bandwidth by default. So I'm not sure if 
it's just the warmup period or if it's something I've misconfigured. I'm also 
not sure if it's just a limitation of the hardware I'm running on as well. I've 
repurposed a pair of Barracuda Spam Firewall 400's for the short depth 1u form 
factor, but I don't know if that's also a bottleneck on my speed as well.

CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+ (1799.99-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin="AuthenticAMD"  Id=0x40ff2  Family=0xf  Model=0x4f  Stepping=2
  
Features=0x78bfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2>
  Features2=0x2001<SSE3,CX16>
  AMD Features=0xea500800<SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,RDTSCP,LM,3DNow!+,3DNow!>
  AMD Features2=0x19<LAHF,ExtAPIC,CR8>
real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)

Only a 10/100 onboard NIC, but as I've only got a 25/5 internet connection that 
I'm sharing, that won't be a bottleneck.

I have an older model of the 400 that uses PATA on a RAID card that I 
previously used as a SQUID cache at home, but after sitting in storage for a 
couple years and moving from my old house to my new, it seems to no longer want 
to boot no matter what I toss at it, else I'd have 3 relays running by now.

(On a side note, if anyone has some spare hardware in a 1u short depth form 
that they'd like to donate, I'd be in the market! I've got 5 spare 25/5 
internet connections that we don't use and I've only got relays on 2 of them. 
lol)

But for now I guess I'll just go back to waiting to see if it's just the 
lifecycle limitations.

Thank you for clearing up what the monitor was showing me though. I feel a lot 
better knowing that I'm not averaging such a low speed.

--
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Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 3:45 PM
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
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Thanks John, glad to hear the average is more in line. Sorry if you're already 
aware of this but here's a nice read that might help...

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.torproject.org%2Flifecycle-new-relay=02%7C01%7C%7Ca65a30c231664c34ef2108d556d8b8da%7C4d0a72eeba2646d58bbe6430f01b636a%7C0%7C0%7C636510411169517477=mgGJR%2BSZo%2FxFO5tZnH%2FjtTob8QOu0lhNRHiaY5M4Gbg%3D=0

It can take a long while for the bandwidth authorities to warm up to relays. If 
you're seeing slack in a new-ish relay that's likely it.



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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx reported speed

[Damian Johnson]

Thanks John, glad to hear the average is more in line. Sorry if you're
already aware of this but here's a nice read that might help...

https://blog.torproject.org/lifecycle-new-relay

It can take a long while for the bandwidth authorities to warm up to
relays. If you're seeing slack in a new-ish relay that's likely it.


On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:27 PM, John D. McDonnell <mcdon...@pcam.org> wrote:
> Sorry for top posting, but I don't have my mail client configured for a more 
> proper inline or bottom posting. (I did that when I first got here but was 
> forced to change it to appease my boss.)
>
> The average metric you are referring to is the one that is updated with the 
> bar graph correct? That one does show more promising numbers, but still 
> generally still tends to fall far short of my 500KB/s allocation. (Seems to 
> usually be from 70B/s to 250KB/s with bursts higher.) But if this is the 
> actual rates I'm getting, then I am going to have to assume I've either got 
> something configured wrong or my routers aren't allowing my servers to get up 
> to full speed. (Both are probably equally likely. lol)
>
> Thank you for clearing that up though, I've been quite perplexed by it 
> reporting only B/s instead of KB/s for the average.
>
> --
> John
>
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> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 3:10 PM
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>
> Sorry about the confusion! Nyx should be showing an average metric as well 
> which is based on the samplings it sees. *That* should be more helpful.
>
> Cheers! -Damian
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx reported speed

[John D. McDonnell]

Sorry for top posting, but I don't have my mail client configured for a more 
proper inline or bottom posting. (I did that when I first got here but was 
forced to change it to appease my boss.)

The average metric you are referring to is the one that is updated with the bar 
graph correct? That one does show more promising numbers, but still generally 
still tends to fall far short of my 500KB/s allocation. (Seems to usually be 
from 70B/s to 250KB/s with bursts higher.) But if this is the actual rates I'm 
getting, then I am going to have to assume I've either got something configured 
wrong or my routers aren't allowing my servers to get up to full speed. (Both 
are probably equally likely. lol)

Thank you for clearing that up though, I've been quite perplexed by it 
reporting only B/s instead of KB/s for the average.

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Sorry about the confusion! Nyx should be showing an average metric as well 
which is based on the samplings it sees. *That* should be more helpful.

Cheers! -Damian


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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx reported speed

[Damian Johnson]

Hi John, thanks for pointing this out! Just took a quick peek at the
source and the 'measured: x' comes from your relay's consensus entry.
On reflection though that's stupid of me since that's the bandwidth
authority weight which is a unit-less heuristic (baka!).

https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/tree/dir-spec.txt#n2234

I should probably simply drop that from the interface. Filed a ticket
to remind me to do so...

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/24832

Sorry about the confusion! Nyx should be showing an average metric as
well which is based on the samplings it sees. *That* should be more
helpful.

Cheers! -Damian



On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 10:56 AM, John D. McDonnell  wrote:
> I'm not sure if reporting is off or something isn't configured right or 
> whatever it could be, but when running nyx, it is telling me that the 
> measured rate is 229.0 B/s which to me, sounds ridiculously slow. Where is it 
> getting the measured rate from? Is it a calculation on how much data is 
> passing in a given time or some sort of speed test from another relay or 
> where? While I've used Tor off and on for several years, I never ran a relay 
> until now and I'm still not certain on several aspects, though I keep digging 
> to make sure I can supply the best exit relays I can. (I currently host 2 
> exit relays and hope to bring up 3 more in the near future if I can find 
> hardware to run them on. Though I may make one a bridge.)
>
> I have some spare internet connections that are provided to us that are 25/5 
> connections. I configured torrc with a 500KB/s limit with 600KB/s bursting as 
> this should work nicely to use ~4Mbps of the 5Mbps that the connection 
> supports and allows me some bandwidth to be able to connect to the machines 
> for monitoring and troubleshooting as well as more than enough bandwidth for 
> downloading updates and such.
>
> The line in nyx that I'm referring to is:
> Bandwidth (limit: 500 KB/s, burst: 600 KB/s, measured: 229.0 B/s):
> Where is it getting that 229.0 B/s rate and is there anything I can do to get 
> it closer to the 500KB/s I am trying to share.
>
> Granted, I am using a Linksys e1200 and Belkin something-or-other that I 
> can't remember off the top of my head running DD-WRT as routers in front of 
> the servers. (I've pondered removing the router and just connecting the 
> server directly to the internet and relying on pf for my firewalling, but I 
> can't do that at the one location as I also have a couple other things 
> connected to it. Both routers are higher end consumer routers with 32MB of 
> RAM and has 32768 for maximum ports. (Currently just under 3000 active IP 
> connections as I'm typing this e-mail.) I might just try this on my one exit 
> to see if this is the bottleneck I'm hitting or if there's something else 
> affecting it.
>
> When I had first put this in place, I was using an older Netgear ProVPN 
> router of some sort, but I swapped it out due to it flagging NTP traffic as 
> unknown even though my server was initiating the NTP requests. But I was 
> maintaining 200KB/s+ connections fairly consistently. It now ranges all over 
> the place and I'm not sure if that's an issue on my end or just part of the 
> lifecycle of a relay.
>
> I just recently rebooted the machine this happened to pop up in the nyx log 
> window as I was looking at this:
> 12:33:09 [NOTICE] Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 4 days 23:59 hours, with 1928 
> circuits open. I've sent 37.89 GB and received 37.00 GB.
> To me, that seems a too low, but I've not sat down to do the math and maybe 
> that's a good statistic for 5 days at 4Mbps.
>
> I'd appreciate any tips and pointers you can send my way. And if the consumer 
> routers are the issue, I can move my one exit relay to one of the other 
> connections I have and not use it at the location (or just run one that's 
> slower) where I do use this backup internet connection. (It's handy to have a 
> network that's not part of our internal network for testing.)
>
> Thanks for sticking with me through this whole e-mail and I apologize for 
> rambling and jumping around a bit. I'm sure I left out some stuff and didn't 
> clarify something else or something wasn't clear, so if you need more 
> information, just ask.
>
> Thank you,
> John
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[teor]

On 8 Nov 2017, at 06:22, Damian Johnson  wrote:

>> Oh, that's big; I missed that. So Nyx gives you real-time information on
>> your individual relay, and less about the network overall?
> 
> Correct. Atlas provides a website where you can look up general
> information on any relay, whereas Nyx provides detailed real-time
> information about your relay.

The difference is really important: relays can't report detailed stats publicly,
because it's not safe for clients. (It makes some attacks easier.)

Tools like nyx allow relay operators to get detailed stats for their relays, 
while
protecting tor users.

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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

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> Oh, that's big; I missed that. So Nyx gives you real-time information on
> your individual relay, and less about the network overall?

Correct. Atlas provides a website where you can look up general
information on any relay, whereas Nyx provides detailed real-time
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[Tommy Collison]

On 11/7/17 10:59 AM, Damian Johnson wrote:
>> I'll definitely crib off that.
>>
>> There's overlap between what data Nyx displays with what Tor Metrics
>> displays, right?
> Kinda? Nyx has much, much richer information. Atlas gets hourly
> information. Nyx's info is both real time and far, far more detailed.
Oh, that's big; I missed that. So Nyx gives you real-time information on
your individual relay, and less about the network overall?
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[Damian Johnson]

> I'll definitely crib off that.
>
> There's overlap between what data Nyx displays with what Tor Metrics
> displays, right?

Kinda? Nyx has much, much richer information. Atlas gets hourly
information. Nyx's info is both real time and far, far more detailed.
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[Tommy Collison]

I'll definitely crib off that.

There's overlap between what data Nyx displays with what Tor Metrics
displays, right?

TC

On 11/7/17 10:04 AM, Damian Johnson wrote:
> Hi Stephanie, will this do the trick?
> 
> http://blog.atagar.com/nyx-release-2-0/
> 
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Stephanie Whited  
> wrote:
>> Glad we'll have a post up about this!
>>
>> Damian, do you want to write a draft and we can help polish or would you
>> like Tommy to write a draft first and get your feedback?
>>
>> -Steph
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/17 9:56 AM, Damian Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Tommy! Actually, I was just about to reach out to Stephanie to
>> ask how she would care to proceed with a tor blog post. Love to have
>> your professional touch on this Tommy. :P
>>
>> Cheers! -Damian
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Tommy Collison 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Congrats on the launch, Damian!
>>
>> Want to write up something quick for the blog? If you want, I can pull
>> something together and run it by you.
>>
>> Tommy
>>
>> On 11/6/17 3:41 PM, Damian Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, after years of being in the works I'm pleased to announce Nyx!
>> A long overdue modernization of arm.
>>
>> http://blog.atagar.com/nyx-release-2-0/
>> https://nyx.torproject.org/
>>
>> Even more important for our controller space at large, Nyx is coming
>> hand-in-hand with Stem 1.6. A full year of improvements that include
>> descriptor creation support, ed25519 certificates, performance tuning,
>> and much, much more...
>>
>> https://stem.torproject.org/change_log.html#version-1-6
>>
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[Damian Johnson]

Hi Stephanie, will this do the trick?

http://blog.atagar.com/nyx-release-2-0/

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Stephanie Whited  wrote:
> Glad we'll have a post up about this!
>
> Damian, do you want to write a draft and we can help polish or would you
> like Tommy to write a draft first and get your feedback?
>
> -Steph
>
>
> On 11/7/17 9:56 AM, Damian Johnson wrote:
>
> Thanks Tommy! Actually, I was just about to reach out to Stephanie to
> ask how she would care to proceed with a tor blog post. Love to have
> your professional touch on this Tommy. :P
>
> Cheers! -Damian
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Tommy Collison 
> wrote:
>
> Congrats on the launch, Damian!
>
> Want to write up something quick for the blog? If you want, I can pull
> something together and run it by you.
>
> Tommy
>
> On 11/6/17 3:41 PM, Damian Johnson wrote:
>
> Hi all, after years of being in the works I'm pleased to announce Nyx!
> A long overdue modernization of arm.
>
> http://blog.atagar.com/nyx-release-2-0/
> https://nyx.torproject.org/
>
> Even more important for our controller space at large, Nyx is coming
> hand-in-hand with Stem 1.6. A full year of improvements that include
> descriptor creation support, ed25519 certificates, performance tuning,
> and much, much more...
>
> https://stem.torproject.org/change_log.html#version-1-6
>
> Cheers! -Damian
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[Damian Johnson]

Thanks Tommy! Actually, I was just about to reach out to Stephanie to
ask how she would care to proceed with a tor blog post. Love to have
your professional touch on this Tommy. :P

Cheers! -Damian

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Tommy Collison  wrote:
> Congrats on the launch, Damian!
>
> Want to write up something quick for the blog? If you want, I can pull
> something together and run it by you.
>
> Tommy
>
> On 11/6/17 3:41 PM, Damian Johnson wrote:
>> Hi all, after years of being in the works I'm pleased to announce Nyx!
>> A long overdue modernization of arm.
>>
>> http://blog.atagar.com/nyx-release-2-0/
>> https://nyx.torproject.org/
>>
>> Even more important for our controller space at large, Nyx is coming
>> hand-in-hand with Stem 1.6. A full year of improvements that include
>> descriptor creation support, ed25519 certificates, performance tuning,
>> and much, much more...
>>
>> https://stem.torproject.org/change_log.html#version-1-6
>>
>> Cheers! -Damian
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[Tommy Collison]

Congrats on the launch, Damian!

Want to write up something quick for the blog? If you want, I can pull
something together and run it by you.

Tommy

On 11/6/17 3:41 PM, Damian Johnson wrote:
> Hi all, after years of being in the works I'm pleased to announce Nyx!
> A long overdue modernization of arm.
> 
> http://blog.atagar.com/nyx-release-2-0/
> https://nyx.torproject.org/
> 
> Even more important for our controller space at large, Nyx is coming
> hand-in-hand with Stem 1.6. A full year of improvements that include
> descriptor creation support, ed25519 certificates, performance tuning,
> and much, much more...
> 
> https://stem.torproject.org/change_log.html#version-1-6
> 
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[Damian Johnson]

> Thank you for all your work. It is good to have a TTY-only tool
> available again.

Thanks Ralph!

> Either I am too tired to see it, or the new web shows no info about the
> installation process. Your blog mentions "pip install nyx" very briefly,
> but the web page apparently does not? Also, it might be worth mentioning
> alternatives to using pip.

If you click 'Download' in the upper right of
https://nyx.torproject.org/ it should provide the pip command. I
reached out to package maintainers yesterday and will list other
platforms once they're available, like we do for Stem:
https://stem.torproject.org/download.html

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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[Ralph Seichter]

On 07.11.2017 00:41, Damian Johnson wrote:

> Hi all, after years of being in the works I'm pleased to announce Nyx!
> A long overdue modernization of arm.

Thank you for all your work. It is good to have a TTY-only tool
available again.

> http://blog.atagar.com/nyx-release-2-0/
> https://nyx.torproject.org/

Either I am too tired to see it, or the new web shows no info about the
installation process. Your blog mentions "pip install nyx" very briefly,
but the web page apparently does not? Also, it might be worth mentioning
alternatives to using pip.

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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx 2.0 Release

[John Ricketts]

Huzzah!

> On Nov 6, 2017, at 17:40, Damian Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, after years of being in the works I'm pleased to announce Nyx!
> A long overdue modernization of arm.
> 
> http://blog.atagar.com/nyx-release-2-0/
> https://nyx.torproject.org/
> 
> Even more important for our controller space at large, Nyx is coming
> hand-in-hand with Stem 1.6. A full year of improvements that include
> descriptor creation support, ed25519 certificates, performance tuning,
> and much, much more...
> 
> https://stem.torproject.org/change_log.html#version-1-6
> 
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx Project Ideas

[Damian Johnson]

Hi ZEROF, Nyx isn't ready yet for users. It works, but is still very
much in development. It might be released around June, though that's
just a guess. I reserved the name 'nyx' in PyPI but pip won't work
until the release is ready.

Cheers! -Damian


On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 8:26 AM, ZEROF  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I use arm, but i wanted to test nyx and i have found install option "pip
> install nyx", but install don't work, version 1.4.5. You can see logs:
> https://paste.lugons.org/show/Ua6RdWzaMg8cI5cWsf0b/
>
> ;)
>
> On 25 February 2016 at 03:10, Damian Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> Hi wonderful relay operators. It's GSoC season again, where students
>> can be funded to make open source projects like Tor even better!
>>
>> Nyx (previously known as arm [1]) has been my main focus this last
>> year and is inching ever closer to release. For those unfamiliar with
>> it, Nyx is an ncurses monitor for Tor relays providing a bandwidth
>> graph, event log, connections, config editor, and more.
>>
>> Rather than add new features my work has focused on making Nyx simpler
>> and faster, but GSoC provides us an opportunity to do even more. So
>> I'm curious - what do you want from an ncurses monitor? The answer may
>> be 'keep it simple'. Feature creep does us no favors. But if there's a
>> good fit I'd love to mentor a project that makes your lives even
>> better!
>>
>> I'm not overly fond of the ideas I've had so far...
>>
>> * Windows support. This poses a few challenges. [2]
>> * When running multiple tor instances on a single system connect to
>> them all, aggregating the information.
>>
>> So anything come to mind?
>>
>> Cheers! -Damian
>>
>> [1] https://www.atagar.com/arm/
>> [2] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/arm#Windows
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Re: [tor-relays] Nyx Project Ideas

[ZEROF]

Hi,

I use arm, but i wanted to test nyx and i have found install option "pip
install nyx", but install don't work, version 1.4.5. You can see logs:
https://paste.lugons.org/show/Ua6RdWzaMg8cI5cWsf0b/

;)

On 25 February 2016 at 03:10, Damian Johnson  wrote:

> Hi wonderful relay operators. It's GSoC season again, where students
> can be funded to make open source projects like Tor even better!
>
> Nyx (previously known as arm [1]) has been my main focus this last
> year and is inching ever closer to release. For those unfamiliar with
> it, Nyx is an ncurses monitor for Tor relays providing a bandwidth
> graph, event log, connections, config editor, and more.
>
> Rather than add new features my work has focused on making Nyx simpler
> and faster, but GSoC provides us an opportunity to do even more. So
> I'm curious - what do you want from an ncurses monitor? The answer may
> be 'keep it simple'. Feature creep does us no favors. But if there's a
> good fit I'd love to mentor a project that makes your lives even
> better!
>
> I'm not overly fond of the ideas I've had so far...
>
> * Windows support. This poses a few challenges. [2]
> * When running multiple tor instances on a single system connect to
> them all, aggregating the information.
>
> So anything come to mind?
>
> Cheers! -Damian
>
> [1] https://www.atagar.com/arm/
> [2] https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/arm#Windows
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