Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
andyg;513719 Wrote: That's false, we're looking at a couple of months until release. Define cuple. Because for my experience with this word in conjunction with companies, this almost everytime ment 4-6 months. -- Cold-1 Cold-1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33103 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a Server
converting between different encodings on the fly, so that Clients can play stuff they don't support natively (because of exceeding bitrates, missing hardware support, missing cpu power to do it in software...). Actually i have no idea which formats are supported on the different Squeezeboxes (i only use MP3 and Ogg), so the next example may be wrong. Internet Radiostream as Realaudio - Squeezebox Server - transcode - MP3 Stream - Squeezebox Classic -- fragfutter fragfutter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74683 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a Server
So we don't know whether FLACs (which I'm using) will need to be transcoded. -- realmassy realmassy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74683 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a Server
All Squeezeboxes can play FLAC natively. No transcoding required. -- Aurumer Aurumer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74683 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Powered speakers for Touch
Another positive judgement on the A2. They sound really good. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74658 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
maggior;513935 Wrote: If this product is stable upon release and deemed worth the wait, you'll have really accomplished something worhwhile. Under those circumstances, people will forget quickly how long they had to wait for the product. And if it still isn't stable when released, and released soon, ... Some months ago I posted what sh*te customer service Logitech were providing on this product, particularly with regards to those of us who had placed pre-orders, and got 'jumped on from a great height' - anybody still think their actions in this area can in any way be justified? -- DaveKen DaveKen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Powered speakers for Touch
Hi, same here brought them from the US to Germany - but i think they are also available at Amazon GY. I use them with a SB3 and I'm very happy with this solution regards carrera -- carrera 2XSBClassic, Transporter, Controller, iPeng Server: XPPro, Files: FLAC carrera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74658 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a Server
Great, thanks. The only limitation I can see of using the tiny server is the lacking of the web interface, which I only use to configure some advanced settings. As long as you can configure those settings in a different way (using the controller, via ssh etc etc) the Touch could work for me. The Sheevaplug is great, but is hard wired to the router, which is not connected to the Internet (basically I've a dedicated network) and so I can't stream radios, or even run the software update. Now with the Touch, I'd plug my drive into the USB input, and I could connect it using Wi-Fi to the broadband router. No dedicated router, no Sheevaplug... Am I missing something? Thanks -- realmassy realmassy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74683 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a Server
Aurumer;514012 Wrote: All Squeezeboxes can play FLAC natively. Except for the SliMP3 and SB1, which are not supported on TinySBS for other reasons. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74683 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a Server
JJZolx;514049 Wrote: What do you mean by 'switch to a different network'? You can easily switch the player between music servers if you have more than one on your network, plus switch to and from MySqueezebox.com. They're not on the same network: the sheevaplug is wired to the router B, while the internet access is on the router A. So it's not just a matter of switching the library, but I have first to connect the Touch (or the duet) to the router A. -- realmassy realmassy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74683 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a Server
realmassy;514050 Wrote: They're not on the same network: the sheevaplug is wired to the router B, while the internet access is on the router A. So it's not just a matter of switching the library, but I have first to connect the Touch (or the duet) to the router A. You actually need to reconfiguring the player's network settings in order to reach the Internet? No, that's not easily done on any Squeezebox. Is sounds like you could stand to reconfigure your network unless there's a _really_ good reason for doing something like that. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74683 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
Usually when there are repeated delays on a new product its a bust.I see multiple problems with the touch if it every gets released. -- gellie gellie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
gellie;514084 Wrote: I see multiple problems with the touch if it every gets released. What, you have a crystal ball? Here it is nice and simple, just for you: 1) The delayed release date is to ensure it won't have multiple problems 2) My Touch works fine for me *now* on my network with TinySC fed by a 1tb drive. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
A delay of almost 6 months since I place my pre-order. makes me believe there is a big problem be it software or hardware, which logitech is not telling. The touch doesn't put your life at risk and it is not push out the door like what toyota did. -- tomasito tomasito's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
tomasito wrote: A delay of almost 6 months since I place my pre-order. makes me believe there is a big problem be it software or hardware, which logitech is not telling. What bull. The hardware has been finished since last September. Search for stories about a guy who bought one from a clueless retailer. The Software has been working great for me for four months or so. There are bugs, and the engineers are working to make sure its a great launch. No one can predict when software will be finished. The only way to know is to be finished. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
gellie;514084 Wrote: Usually when there are repeated delays on a new product its a bust.I see multiple problems with the touch if it every gets released. Really? I've been running a Touch since Xmas 2008 and it has worked fine for using me using the latest full-fat SBS. The hardware is NOT the issue here, it just works. TinySC has been difficult for all concerned, but I'm sure it will be pretty solid on release. The beta version I'm running is ALMOST there... in most respects. Oh, and by the way, it is one of the best sounding NDS's on the market (IMO). -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
Either cancel your order or shutup. I think that seems to be the current tag line for the Touch. I'm not whining, I'm just pointing out that their current strategy doesn't instill a lot of confidence in the product or in Logictech. That is, they're featuring it prominently in marketing and soliciting pre-orders, yet they can't provide a release date or any official information about the delay. I want the Touch to be what those like you with faith in it assume it will be. But, right now, it's just a phantom product that may or may not be any good. Seriously, any information from Logitech other than just trust us and pre-order now would go a long way towards gaining some confidence in Logitech and the product. -- BrianB BrianB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35727 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and web-interface
Wow, that's a really great device. I'm gonna have to look into that further, especially if Marvel really does bring the price down to $49 in the future. -- crazyj crazyj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74808 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
ModelCitizen;514061 Wrote: Hasn't all been said on this subject that can be said? Either cancel your order or shutup. Those that don't cancel the wait will be worthwhile. I have a beta Touch and it works pretty well... I suppose you haven't noticed that is is pretty easy to float above others with an air of superiority and counsel patience when you have your unit and others don't. ;-) In the absence of credible information, it is simply human nature for people to engage in speculation. If there is an information void, it will not remain empty. And, the harder the source of official information tries to ignore the brouhaha, the more vivid the speculation becomes. Right now, Logitech might as well be delivering free fodder to their competitors by the truckload. While perhaps they weren't responsible for the public's premature awareness of the Touch, that egg can't be unscrambled. You would think they'd be a bit more forthcoming by giving a status report to those who pre-ordered, but instead they are now on their third revised release date, communicated only through a comment buried in their user forums. The official info doesn't seem any more credible than the speculation. At some point one would think they'd go to their PR guy and ask if there is a better way of handling things as opposed to sticking with the script that was broken months ago. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
Has anyone heard of the statement patience is a virtue? I have been enjoying my Squeezes so much and our home is filled with beautiful music. So, I am very thankful for Logitech and its team of experts who have provided me with this. I say THANK YOU! I think we need to not bite the hand that is giving us this fantastic system at a reasonable price , I might add. I would like to see much more positivity and much less negativity. Can we just cut Logitech some slack? Be patient. I am very anxious to and do not enjoy the wait,but I can be tolerant and patientand very thankful as well. It is very difficult for a company to endure all this public bashing and so...if you like the products, it is self-defeating to create such a negative public display. Confusious say: Enjoy what we have at the present and the future will be bright. Patience is a virtue and will be rewarded. -- Ikabob Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...
If I do indeed follow through with purchasing a Touch, I will eventually dual zone it, and I'm waffling whether or not I would buy another Touch, since it has a display, or would want a screenless Touch, and work out my own displays. Actually, what would be fantastic is if Logitech would release a receiver with a display that could be read from further away, that I could run off my Touch. Maybe a vacuum-fluorescent display. Oh wait... -- crazyj crazyj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74694 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
Sorry don't see why Logitech should get an easy ride. Let's not get into fanboy syndrome. The Squeezebox system is great. But Logitech management has significantly redirected skilled development resources to other projects, whilst adding in some contractors. This at a time of maximum change in the portfolio and the technology it uses. Cutting slack for 'we underestimated, it will be delayed' is reasonable. But actions since these delays took hold are management controlled. I have worked my whole career in the technical product sector. I cannot believe that the attitude to their customer channels is so cavalier. If the distribution channels lose confidence or allegiance then we all suffer. The products the few that frequent these forums love and continue to purchase, will not keep the business afloat. What is really impressive is the way that the now restructured resources working on the project remain upbeat and productive. Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
Ikabob;514148 Wrote: It is very difficult for a company to endure all this public bashing and so...if you like the products, it is self-defeating to create such a negative public display. The irony is that Logitech has it within their power to address the situation in a much better fashion than they've been doing. OK, they made some public relations mistakes to date. Why keep repeating them? How about this quote? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Maybe Logitech should try changing their PR approach instead of trying mightily to ignore the elephant in the middle of the room. 'Nuff said. I'll shut up now. ;-) -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
If it were not for forums such as these, we may not even be aware that there have been any delays. Public forums are new to the industrial sector and addressing them should play a secondary role in the company's mission. Yes, there are reps who do address our concerns and our predominantly mis-information. I respect Logitech for even tolerating forums such as these with all the bad 'pub that they seem to receive. The silent majority sit back and enjoy their Logitech products.It is unfortunate that not enough times do the silent majority speak up in time to save a reputation! Logitech tolerates these forums out of selflessness and because it is a vehicle for assistance in the functionality of their sophisticated products. And, their products are VERY good and producing good products must be their goal.The products ,to me, speak for themselves. I believe that when someone is winning that they deserve some slack. IMHO -- Ikabob Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
Since it's not possible to buy the Classic now, it's clear Logitech did intend to release the Touch sooner; it's not just a third party who shipped it early, it was clearly intended to be available last year and a release date was widely given as I recall (too far back to remember clearly now). I'm still sticking with my pre-order but Logitech does have it within its power to let us know what is going on. -- SJobson Mac Mini - Squeezebox 3 - MF X-Dac V8 - MF XT-100 - Spendor S5e SJobson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
gellie;514084 Wrote: Usually when there are repeated delays on a new product its a bust.I see multiple problems with the touch if it every gets released. Since you don't own one, why don't you keep your opinion to yourself until you do! And just how exactly do you see multiple problems with the Touch when again you don't own one?! How can you make such a statement without ever touching or using a Touch? The Touch is stable. I use mine for hours everyday without any issues. It has been this way for months. Touch has been working fine as a direct SB3 replacement with FLAC for months. The issue is not one of stability in my opinion (and again I have one), this word is being misused in my opinion. In my opinion, the Firmware is stable. The bugs are being wrapped up, TinySBS is being finalized, and adjustments/additions are being made so that the Touch will perform the features that are listed on the outside of the box. TinySBS is one of the features that should make this product much more Mass Market Friendly/Acceptable especially for those that don't want to run a PC or Server. TinySBS is working at this point, but it is my opinion that it is not to the point of being idiot proof which is probably one of the things holding the Touch release back. There aren't going to be any changes to the hardware. The hardware is finished and works fine. Touch Squeezeboxes are piled up in warehouses just waiting to be released once the Firmware covers all the features advertised and is finalized for release. The subject is not the hardware but the Firmware. And like all Software/Firmware development, setting goals and reaching them is always hard. Firmware tends to be more serial then parallel, sure a few things can be done at the same time, but many of the major functions/features have to be knocked out one at a time. And in defense of the guys that are working hard everyday to finish up Touch, the new Firmware releases Beta users are receiving are better with each release. Lastly, if I could buy 5 Touch units today with its current Firmware release, I would. That is how stable it is and how well it already does what I need and want it to do. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Powered speakers for Touch
Dbalt;511993 Wrote: I use A2 for my dining room and living room and they sound great and work great with my duet or iPod dock. Also, great price at $199. A5s must be even better. The A2s are great, the A5s are even better in my opinion. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74658 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
If the only holdup on the Touch is TinySBC or TinySBS whatever it is called that really bums me because I will never ever use that feature of the Touch. Be nice if they would release it without that feature and then add the feature later when ready and then do a rerelease of the product maybe even in slightly different packaging that announces this new feature that makes it more mass market friendly. I would have a touch now if I could get one and probably be more than happy with it. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
I Thought this forum is open to all opinions? Where do you come off telling anybody what he should think about a company mishandling a new product. Step away from the koolaid and stop being such a fanboy. -- gellie gellie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Audio Engine AW1
Hi, I do not have an a/v receiver just a pair of Audio Engine A5's. I noticed the AudioEngine AW1 wireless adapter went on sale at Amazon today and I'm thinking about buying it but I was wondering if it would be compatible with the Squeezebox Touch? Has anyone tried this configuration? I'd like to be able to stream music from SB Touch (kitchen) to my AE A5's in the living room (a distance of about 20 feet). Thanks! -- tonyme tonyme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32833 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74937 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
iPhone;514183 Wrote: Firmware tends to be more serial then parallel, sure a few things can be done at the same time, but many of the major functions/features have to be knocked out one at a time. And in defense of the guys that are working hard everyday to finish up Touch, the new Firmware releases Beta users are receiving are better with each release. The problem is not this normal characteristic of SW development. And, as I mentioned in the general forum in another post, the guys doing the Touch dev deserve big kudos. Rather, it is the wholesale gutting of the Squeeze team with no announcement, in a more public place or in these forums, of why. To me that can only mean one thing -- that Logitech believes, in its current form, the Squeeze line does not represent a solid revenue stream going forward. And that's what scares the long-term Slim/Squeeze supporters. -- mbonsack mbonsack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1398 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Powered speakers for Touch
@Justme I can see you are from Germany, then you should really consider Dynaudio, built in Skanderborg, Denmark where I live :-), owned by Germans. I know Dynaudio are a bit pricey, but also top of the line. It's one of the few brands left that still produces it's own speaker units. Dynaudio Focus 110 A are extremely good. German review here: http://www.fairaudio.de/test/lautsprecher/2009/test-dynaudio-focus-110-a-aktiv-lautsprecher-1.html English translation here: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/dynaudio/active.html If it is too expensive, they also have Dynaudio MC 15. My self? I must admit I have Audioengine A5's, they are Ok, but I dream of the Dynaudios, and one day they will be mine :-) -- Letten Duet - Audioengine A5 Classic - Sony surround reciever - Jamo 5.1 Speakers / JBL 120Ti 2 Boom's SC 7.4.1 on Laptop running Windows XP Linksys WRT54G wireless router Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74658 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
m1abrams;514192 Wrote: If the only holdup on the Touch is TinySBC or TinySBS whatever it is called that really bums me because I will never ever use that feature of the Touch. Be nice if they would release it without that feature and then add the feature later when ready and then do a rerelease of the product maybe even in slightly different packaging that announces this new feature that makes it more mass market friendly. I'm sure you're not alone in that view. The problem is that the marketing so far as advertised the feature, and apparently it is even stated as a feature on the printed retail boxes that are sitting in the warehouses waiting to be shipped. I suppose they could go in with buckets of white out or rolls of white adhesive tape for the retail boxes, but I'm sure that would be confusing for consumers. The powers that be at Logitech have apparently decided that that confusion is a bigger problem than the extended delay in releasing the Touch. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch
Does anyone know if the IR blaster plugin will work with a touch? This can nicely control volume and on off for equipment and I have been working a plugin that works with it to control multiple functions from my SB3 once the codes are learned, before working on making this usable and adding a LUA interface, expanding it to have macros etc. I'd like to know if this is worthwhile or will the geek port be lost in the future. Thanks -- linvale Squeezcenter running on ACER R1600 Windows XP Fileserver ReadyNAS Duo Main Listening Transporter / Controller Kitchen : SB3 Bedroom : Boom Bath : SBRadio Study: Duo linvale's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22828 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
aubuti;514231 Wrote: I'm sure you're not alone in that view. The problem is that the marketing so far as advertised the feature, and apparently it is even stated as a feature on the printed retail boxes that are sitting in the warehouses waiting to be shipped. I suppose they could go in with buckets of white out or rolls of white adhesive tape for the retail boxes, but I'm sure that would be confusing for consumers. The powers that be at Logitech have apparently decided that that confusion is a bigger problem than the extended delay in releasing the Touch. At this point it would be nice if they offered maybe an extended beta test to people like us who would love to pay to beta test the product. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
m1abrams;514248 Wrote: At this point it would be nice if they offered maybe an extended beta test to people like us who would love to pay to beta test the product. Hint: When you propose that to Logitech, deny you ever said that you would never ever use the feature of the Touch that is now the main focus of the beta testing ;o) -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Thanks John I read them upto mid Dec, i am probably a bit behind. I'll email your response to chord and see what they say. If not I guess i'll stick to 96khz - not really an issue as 99.9% of my stuff is 16/44.1 anyway!! cheers Rob -- Robfitzp Robfitzp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36304 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
I have been enjoying my Squeezes so much and our home is filled with beautiful music. Some of us don't have squeezes, so it's completely different to wait. For you, it's a possible upgrade. For many, it's about weighing all the options current and future. Given that we don't even know when The Touch will be available, we can't even say what the future will be in regards to Logitech's product line. Add in that they don't know when that will be enough to release any official date, and it's really just a fantasy at this point. apparently it is even stated as a feature on the printed retail boxes that are sitting in the warehouses waiting to be shipped... The powers that be at Logitech have apparently decided that that confusion is a bigger problem than the extended delay in releasing the Touch. That's actually even more worrisome. Clearly it was not expected if they already have them in boxes which list a feature that was never ready to go when they made and packed the boxes. And then are they going to open every box and update them or are they going to ship them without the update and have thousands of consumers updating them at home when they get them? If it's the former, then we can expect more delays. If it's the latter, then we can expect even more confusion, because they will be selling a product with an advertised feature that is only available after an upgrade. Sounds like they'd need the white out or supplement labels in that scenario as well. Basically, Logitech was forced into a delay and chose to add confusion on top of that. Again, what it comes down to is that support is paramount when buying technology and good communication is essential for good support. I'm not worried about the delay. I am worried about the communication infrastructure as it will apply to the support of the product when released. And, now, after reading your post, I am worried about in what kind of condition the product will be released when it is released: updated and ready to go, or as is needing the update after purchase. Based on the current situation we probably won't know until our credit cards have been charged and the product has been shipped out of those warehouses. It really just comes down to communication and transparency. I think Logitech has chosen confusion for a reason. The bean counter has predicted that current Squeeze owners will excuse it and that the current confusion will be more often trumped by the promise of their marketing materials and the possible hope of prospective buyers that it will actually work as promised whenever it is actually released. For me, that comes at the cost of confidence in the company and maybe it is time to shut up and cancel the preorder. -- BrianB BrianB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35727 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
BrianB;514284 Wrote: And then are they going to open every box and update them or are they going to ship them without the update and have thousands of consumers updating them at home when they get them? The Touch set up wizard will download and install the latest firmware release automatically. It's not an option but a mandatory step in the installation process. Yes, it does mean that you need a working broadband Internet connection for the initial set up to complete. But yes, it's also clearly printed on the box that a broadband Internet connection is part of the prerequisites for using the Touch. -- sebp Transporter, SB Classic, SB Receiver, SB Boom, SB Radio, SB Touch, 2 SB Controllers Will soon need a bigger home - 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
BrianB;514284 Wrote: Clearly it was not expected if they already have them in boxes which list a feature that was never ready to go when they made and packed the boxes. And then are they going to open every box and update them or are they going to ship them without the update and have thousands of consumers updating them at home when they get them? What clearly wasn't expected? You don't need the final software/firmware ready in order to produce the hardware. Usually you get the functional firmware in place, and start hardware production while continuing to work on improving the software, adding features and squashing bugs. The plan was for the firmware and software to be ready by the time they had a good number of SBTs produced and distributed to warehouses. Obviously the amount of time required for the software and firmware was underestimated. When the user sets up the SBT the firmware gets pushed to the SBT, the device reboots, the user proceeds. That's how the SB Radio was done, and the SB Duet, and SB3, etc. It's quite standard for a lot of consumer electronics (computers, routers, printers, etc) to require updating to the latest software version at installation time. There's no excuse for Logitech not at least emailing everyone who has a pre-order with them to update them on the status, even if the update is we still can't give you a firm date. No communication at all is awful customer relations. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
What clearly wasn't expected?... The plan was for the firmware and software to be ready by the time they had a good number of SBTs produced and distributed to warehouses. Obviously the amount of time required for the software and firmware was underestimated. Hence, unexpected. -- BrianB BrianB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35727 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch
The Touch does have IR blaster hardware. But its accessed differently than the SB3 so the existing IR blaster plugin will not work. Its going to take a new piece of software written for the Touch. To date this has not been written. At one point it was going to be part of the released software with the Touch, but with the current priorities I don't think its going to be ready at release. My guess is that once it gets released there will be enough interest that somebody will write it fairly quickly. It will happen, but you might have to wait little while for it. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date
BrianB;514316 Wrote: Hence, unexpected. Oh that. Yes, that's clear. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a Server
realmassy;514048 Wrote: Thanks JJZolx (nice avatar, btw). OK, so I think I'll keep the Sheevaplug :-) So how could I access the Internet keeping my configuration (dedicated network)? Can I switch to a different network on the fly without any reboot? When I've tried to do that with the Duet I ended up restoring the factory settings :-( The Touch runs a real linux OS so anything that is possible in linux can be done. Its a piece of cake to change the network in linux so I presume it is so in the Touch. The Touch has a network configuration page where you can enter the IP address, subnet, gateway etc. I presume this changes a file and restarts networking on the fly. If you are using DHCP you should just be able to physically connect to the different network and restart the network which should renegotiate DHCP with the new router. I haven't actually tried this, so I'll give it a try and see what happens. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74683 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Temperature sensor in Touch?
Hello, I've read on quite a few web sites that the Touch will have a temperature sensor built in. Does anybody know if this is in fact the case? If so, will applets be able to access it? Thanks, Kevin -- kevinwilson kevinwilson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36354 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch
Thanks for the prompt reply. I guess we will need to wait, but I gained a fairly good insight into Felix's really excellent work on the original plugin - and have gotten to rely on it - such that all my other remotes are packed away. I might just continue with the prototype and see if others find it useful and then see what needs to be done for the touch. -- linvale Squeezcenter running on ACER R1600 Windows XP Fileserver ReadyNAS Duo Main Listening Transporter / Controller Kitchen : SB3 Bedroom : Boom Bath : SBRadio Study: Duo linvale's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22828 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Store music on touch play without my computer on?
I don't have much disk space on my computer, and I don't care to have it on all the time. Is it possible for the Squeezebox Touch to download my music from my laptop and store it on its hard drive ... and I can later remove the music from my laptop. I figure the 100GB hard drive must be used for something but for the life of me I cannot figure out what it is used for by reading the product description. Oh - and I understand that I could put all my music on an external hard drive and hook to the Squeezebox Touch. Seems like an okay solution, but I'd rather store it right on the Touch. Thanks, and I appologize if the answer is obvious or has already been answered. -- rsteffen rsteffen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74961 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Store music on touch play without my computer on?
Your PC needs 100MB. Somehow I read this as the Squeezebox providing 100GB. Thanks for replying. -- rsteffen rsteffen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74961 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Store music on touch play without my computer on?
rsteffen;514430 Wrote: Your PC needs 100MB. Somehow I read this as the Squeezebox providing 100GB. Thanks for replying. Yeah though if you don't install SBS on your PC, but instead use the server built into the touch.. you don't need that 100MB on the PC. (Though in reality, if you have a machine with only 100MB free, it'll be barely running at all, SBServer or not... Most OS's start falling apart when disk space depletes..) The Touch supports SMB (windows file sharing) so you can either drag and drop files from your laptop to a USB HD attached to the touch, or probably MUCH faster: plug the USB drive into the laptop, copy the files, then move it to the touch. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74961 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
