Re: [translate-pootle] Adding new/old locale

2010-11-01 Thread Dwayne Bailey 
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 13:31 +0100, Michael Bauer wrote:
> The only thing we found that was accessible is this 
> http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/build/Files/DEV300/GSI_gd.sdf.bz2
>  
> but that appears to be a pre-release work in progress version. A lot of 
> strings have odd markings against them. I believe they built their own 
> but I'm not entirely sure.

This seems to mean Pavel built things for them.  oo2po against the SDF
file should at least extract PO files based on that state.

I also noticed some newer files against OOO320 and OOO330 at the same
site.  The original site, from where these SDF files are pulled is down.

This is what I'd do:
1) Get the SDF files from DEV300, OOO320 and OOO330.  
2) Create PO files using oo2po.
2.1) Do counts on each one to see if they are different
3) Create compendium using pocompendium for each version
3.1) Remove any conflicts using pofilter with compendiumconflicts test
3.2) Combine the compediums and again filter the conflicts
3.3) You can do any pofilter tests to improve the quality of the
compendium
4) Try to choose which you believe is the best from which to start:
DEV300, OO320
5) pomigrate2 against the best candidate but include compendiums you
created above
6) Again resolve conflicts
7) Start trnaslation

> Is it possible to somehow reverse engineer from the build into the strings?

I'm not really sure, might not be worth the work.

> 
> Michael
> 
> 29/10/2010 13:20, Sgrìobh Dwayne Bailey:
> > Well its easy to migrate 1.0 to 3.0 with pot2po but you will find a lot
> > untranslated.
> >
> > Do you have the source for the commissioned 3.0 translations in any
> > form?  If not that would be really sad, did they build an OOo version
> > themselves or with Sun?
> >
> 
> 

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Re: [translate-pootle] Adding new/old locale

2010-10-29 Thread Michael Bauer 
The only thing we found that was accessible is this 
http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/build/Files/DEV300/GSI_gd.sdf.bz2
 
but that appears to be a pre-release work in progress version. A lot of 
strings have odd markings against them. I believe they built their own 
but I'm not entirely sure.

Is it possible to somehow reverse engineer from the build into the strings?

Michael

29/10/2010 13:20, Sgrìobh Dwayne Bailey:
> Well its easy to migrate 1.0 to 3.0 with pot2po but you will find a lot
> untranslated.
>
> Do you have the source for the commissioned 3.0 translations in any
> form?  If not that would be really sad, did they build an OOo version
> themselves or with Sun?
>


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Re: [translate-pootle] Adding new/old locale

2010-10-29 Thread Dwayne Bailey 
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 12:21 +0100, Michael Bauer wrote:
> Dwayne,
> 
> Ok, thanks, at least I know it's the right place - I'll give them till
> Monday and then repost. 
> 
> Sadly, the only things I have is a PO for 1.0 and some prelimary 3x
> version; it appears that the company who was paid to do the 3.x
> localisation never bothered to commit anything to an OO
> server/site... 

Well its easy to migrate 1.0 to 3.0 with pot2po but you will find a lot
untranslated.

Do you have the source for the commissioned 3.0 translations in any
form?  If not that would be really sad, did they build an OOo version
themselves or with Sun?

> 
> le meas mòr,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 29/10/2010 10:21, Sgrìobh Dwayne Bailey: 
> > 
> > That's the right place to post for help.  OpenOffice.org runs a version
> > of Pootle, we've helped them to setup the server but we don't manage the
> > server.
> > 
> > Do you have the original PO files or SDF file for Scots Gaelic?  If so
> > I'd suggest reporting a bug against OOo and putting them there.
> > 
> 
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Re: [translate-pootle] Adding new/old locale

2010-10-29 Thread Michael Bauer 
Dwayne,

Ok, thanks, at least I know it's the right place - I'll give them till 
Monday and then repost.

Sadly, the only things I have is a PO for 1.0 and some prelimary 3x 
version; it appears that the company who was paid to do the 3.x 
localisation never bothered to commit anything to an OO server/site...

le meas mòr,

Michael

29/10/2010 10:21, Sgrìobh Dwayne Bailey:
>
> That's the right place to post for help.  OpenOffice.org runs a version
> of Pootle, we've helped them to setup the server but we don't manage the
> server.
>
> Do you have the original PO files or SDF file for Scots Gaelic?  If so
> I'd suggest reporting a bug against OOo and putting them there.
>

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Re: [translate-pootle] Adding new/old locale

2010-10-29 Thread Dwayne Bailey 
Hi Michael,

On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 01:52 +0100, Michael Bauer wrote:
> A chàirdean,
> 
> I've just taken over the localisation for my locale (Scots Gaelic, gd). 
> AFAICT the main platform used these days is Pootle, which is fine by me 
> but I need some help getting the existing strings loaded onto Pootle. 
> There's an old release of OO in Gaelic (6.06; http://gd.openoffice.org/) 
> but I have no idea how do move them as I'm much more of a translator 
> than a software engineer.
> 
> I've posted to d...@l10n.openoffice.org but no response since Wednesday.

That's the right place to post for help.  OpenOffice.org runs a version
of Pootle, we've helped them to setup the server but we don't manage the
server.

Do you have the original PO files or SDF file for Scots Gaelic?  If so
I'd suggest reporting a bug against OOo and putting them there.

-- 
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Recent blog posts:
* Localizing Mac OS X strings files using open source PO editors
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* What's new in Virtaal 0.6.1
* Localisation: How we guess the target translation language in Virtaal

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[translate-pootle] Adding new/old locale

2010-10-28 Thread Michael Bauer 
A chàirdean,

I've just taken over the localisation for my locale (Scots Gaelic, gd). 
AFAICT the main platform used these days is Pootle, which is fine by me 
but I need some help getting the existing strings loaded onto Pootle. 
There's an old release of OO in Gaelic (6.06; http://gd.openoffice.org/) 
but I have no idea how do move them as I'm much more of a translator 
than a software engineer.

I've posted to d...@l10n.openoffice.org but no response since Wednesday.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Michael
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