Re: [Trisquel-users] Sent an Email to GNU.org about these 2 new Libre OS

2016-06-02 Thread pinmaritim

LibertyBSD has applied if you read the

https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2015-02/threads.html#00018

As for Uruk 1.0 it's not applied (unless i'm mistaken)
https://uruk.tuxfamily.org/dist/en.html#about

Librepup as well(?)but this project is often even unreachable by internet


Formely submissions which were abandonned
gdNewHat Hatrack

ConnochaetOS (Active-abandoned submission-not endorsed)
https://connochaetos.org/wiki/home
http://delicate-linux.net/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Sent an Email to GNU.org about these 2 new Libre OS

2016-06-02 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

> What do you think about these OS?

Nothing.

> Why haven't they still been approved?

Have they officially asked to be included in the list? If yes, then they just  
must be patient. Of course if the process is taking years then maybe a poke  
is in order.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
What's worse or if any of those it's good at all it's not relevant to what I  
said, you see. It's not about if Bernie or David Duke is good or bad, I'm not  
interest in who's right or wrong. My business is with bias media that  
attempts to control public opinion.


Because if they control public opinion. Then, do we even have any democracy?  
Is democracy sane when all or the majority of the people is brainwashed to  
vote what other people want?


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
I'm not defending white supremacist, I stand for the free speech of every  
one, whether he's European, Indian or a fellow countryman or countrywoman.


Me defending any supremacist is an idea excessing only in your mind full of  
suppositions about me.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
I'm not saying Trump is a Nazi per se. He only falls in the same pit as the  
Weimar republic conservative parties did when they supported the rise of  
Hitler hoping to gain power over him and ditch him when he was done. It won't  
work.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Exactly, in fact. That same video could be banned in Europe even though  
doesn't have a drop of hate against anyone. The same video shows cases where  
pacific free speech got banned because some people had other interests.


It's just plain an simple truth that could be banned in Europe for simply  
that: Stating the truth.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas

>"The nazism of today is alive and it has the face of GOP, Trump"
stopped reading at GOP and Trump being pro nazi. Unless you can prove that  
you're not repeating the same some people says without any base then you're  
just lying.


Also, question. Do you even live in America?


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
Then you shouldn't act against yout best interests defending extremists'  
right to air time on any platform they choose to infiltrate. It's illogical.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas

So now you imply I'm a white supremacist?
 I'll let you know that what you're doing it's no different from someone  
thinking "if it's dumb must be black" You'll agree with me that, that kind of  
prejudice is bad, right? Then why you don't hesitate to call me "white  
supremacists" even though you don't even have proof that I'm white?

Are you calling me names just to discredit me?
Because that wouldn't be different from a religious fanatic calling someone  
"heretic!" to silence him.


Just because you're atheist or whatever doesn't mean you can't fall in the  
same category of religious fanatics. Because you seem to be using the same  
low tactics.


Also I'll let you know two facts:
1: I'm decedent from center america natives.
2: I condemn every supremacists. White, Black, Chinese, Japanese, Italian,  
Spanish or any other supremacist is bad as far as I can see.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond

I agree, but being a KKK is kinda worse...


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
Niemöller was talking about the Nazis. The nazism of today is alive and it  
has the face of GOP, Trump and white suprecist groups fearmongering amidst  
us.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas

I wouldn't mind if you elaborate on why it's "out of place" as you say.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
I know that Niemöller quote through and through. Your quote is put place and  
misdirected.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas

>"Because US Citizens have a taboo towards communism."
Exactly right. Because US Citizens have a taboo towards communism.
And what would happen if Bernie Sanders where to be called "former  
communist"?
That would make him look bad in the US. A lot of people wouldn't vote for  
him. Bernie supporters would say that calling him "former communist" is bias.


But then. Why the media doesn't hesitate to call David Duke "former Ku Klux  
Klan"? Why? Why if the communism of Sanders is even more recent than David  
Duke's Ku Klux Klan membership?


I'll tell you why: Interests!
The media is incredibly bias and manipulate the public opinion!


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
Isn't it obvious? Being a socialist and being a white suprematist dung basket  
are hardly comparable in equality of admiration.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
There's no way to even know if you are a US Citizen. No one is implying you  
promote Trump... I agree about not banning certain videos when in Europe they  
think that's hateful speech, when the general global consensus it might not  
be...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vVohGWhMWs


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Now you're implying I'm a Trump supporter even though I haven't mention a  
word of him.


Why no one call Bernie "former communist" while every-time David Duke is  
bring to discussion he's called "former Ku Klux Klan member"?

either answer that or stop making me lose my time in worthless chitchat.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/if-bernie-wins-california_b_10051886.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas

>"These warmongers have exactly the same freedoms as they had before"
>"They can put up a platform[...]"

They can put a platform and what? Wait until they see how even that got  
banned because of some filter?


Can't you see the danger of this new EU law? Can't you see how this new EU  
rule could be used to ban all sorts of things? Can't you think for yourself?  
Are you just waiting until someone like maybe RMS tells you what to think?  
Because you seem the kind of person that waits until someone who they trust  
tell them how to react.
Because that's not a sane behavior, that's sheep behavior no different from a  
religious fanatic who waits for their pastor opinion. You should be able to  
see the potential threat this EU rule could pose to free speech maybe not  
now, but in the future.


"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond

I said "they seemed"


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
Bernie is a snowball in hell. He has no chance to be lected. Why are wasting  
bullets on him? Is it because trumpists must have an opponent, imagined or  
real?


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
Because Americans have a taboo towards communism. I never implied you said  
Communism was bad. That was added up by me.


"While hate speech is everything counter to the current political  
establishment believes." This doesn't answer my question, you decided to  
issue something else by saying "in practice"... Let's leave Pragmatism for a  
moment. In theory what are they? (That's my question)


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
It used to be good manners in another time... Now you are a beacon of hope  
for the millions if you know how to throw cheap expletives and libel at your  
adversaries.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas

>"Tell me the difference between Political Correctness and Hate Speech"

In practice political correctness is anything the current political  
establishment believes or want you to believe. While hate speech is  
everything counter to the current political establishment believes.


>"Being a communist is not a bad thing, it's just a Political Ideology. It's  
not as if Bernie was Mao, or Stalin..."


Have I said otherwise? Please point out where I said "communism is bad". I  
don't know why you need to reaffirm you're idea of communism not being bad  
since I haven't challenged that idea or eve imply otherwise.


Also, if communism it's not bad then why no one even mention the communist  
past of Bernie? Why no one call him "former communist". This is a question  
that you need to ask to yourself and to the media. I mean. Why wouldn't they  
if communism it's not bad?
And no, I'm not implying that they don't call him former communist because  
communist it's bad.

Just first try to answer that question by yourself.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas

Yeah, but I didn't say they will, just an hypothetical scenario


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
Yeah, I agree... this is making Facebook be more unstable than it already  
is...


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
They won't ban Free Software any time soon. They even seem to agree that it's  
the safest thing to have running in any computer:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRYyWn7BEo


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond

Tell me the difference between Political Correctness and Hate Speech...

Being a communist is not a bad thing, it's just a Political Ideology. It's  
not as if Bernie was Mao, or Stalin...


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
These war mongers have exactly the same freedoms as they had before. They can  
put up a platform of their own for their rants, misogynism and xenophobia  
induced hatred. As long as they don't cross the subtle threshold of targeting  
a specific minority and calling for violence towards them, they are free to  
say anything.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New Lenovo T61 Ath9k not working

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
I already installed the Middleton BIOS, and yet it doesn't connect through  
Wifi, I have to use the Modem cable to connect to the Internet...




Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Yeah, that's why I thought of that hypothetical scenario. Linux nor GNU  
necessarily imply communism. Both could live in either a communist or a  
capitalist system.
I didn't imply that free software is communism. But rather that some people  
could believe that, and ban free software too with a law that bans communism.


This is why a law that bans something as open to interpretation like "hate  
speech" it's dangerous to our freedom.
I know it's only facebook, twitter, youtube and microsoft and that only in  
Europe, but think. If this happens in such important place with so many  
people. Couldn't happen in your country too in some time in the future?


This EU rule is 1984 reality edition.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is your favorite search engine and why?

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond

Tor suggests: https://search.disconnect.me
I've read their privacy policy which stills seems not secure, because it  
stores data:


Nothing in this policy contradicts the following statements:

We don’t collect any of your personal info, including your IP address,  
other than information you voluntarily provide.

We don’t sell your personal info to advertisers or other third parties.
We share your personal info only when legally required, or when  
reasonably necessary to prevent harm in an emergency situation.
We retain your personal info, excluding info you make public, for no more  
than 30 days after you request deletion.


I also like Startpage & Ixquick for their Proxy feature but they are  
propietary...


Duckduckgo.com/html seems to be the safest one... but, I've noticed Noscript  
has found that in the Javascript code there is something linked to Yahoo... I  
can't find it now, but as soon as I find it, I'll upload it here...


Also, it may be because of this: "Some of DuckDuckGo's source code is free  
software hosted at GitHub under the Apache 2.0 License,[9] but the core is  
proprietary. On 21 May 2014, DuckDuckGo launched a redesigned version that  
focused on smarter answers and a more refined look. The new version added  
often requested features such as images, local search, auto-suggest and more"  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo




Re: [Trisquel-users] New Lenovo T61 Ath9k not working

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
Yeah, I installed it. I have a doubt about the SATA II, it mentions that it  
doesn't transmit data 1.5 mb/s or something like that, but with the custom  
BIOS is 3 mb/s. Does it mean my Hard Disk will be faster?


Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU Package Blurbs

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond

Quite many packages. I'm happy to see this is growing...


[Trisquel-users] Sent an Email to GNU.org about these 2 new Libre OS

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond

What do you think about these OS?
Why haven't they still been approved?



Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
>Also, I am not a "communist", as you seem to be implying. Is it some scare  
label you apy to people who disagree with you? It makes no sense.<


A ballmerism is appropriate here:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/


[Trisquel-users] GNU Package Blurbs

2016-06-02 Thread albertoefg

Hi =)

I wanted to share with you this nice page:

https://www.gnu.org/manual/blurbs.html

A small description for all GNU packages 


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
RMS has also said that he doesn't align with what he calls "right-wing  
libertarian anarchists".


https://trisquel.info/en/forum/stallman-talk#comment-95157


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread nuevodesorden
Fuck David Duke, fuck the Klan, Fuck sanders and his socialdemocrat crap,  
fuck hillary and trump.


Slava Stalin.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

2016-06-02 Thread onpon4
Yeah, that's because it's SaaSS. The only solution to this is for the  
translation software to be running on your own computer and libre. You can't  
solve SaaSS by creating an alternative SaaSS solution.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread mnaus

If anybody is interested, Richard Stallman already commented on this:

https://www.stallman.org/archives/2016-mar-jun.html

"1 June 2016 (Censorship of "hate speech")

Several "US" companies have signed a pledge to censor "hate speech", which is  
a crime in many European countries.


This includes statements of views that are protected in the US. We must not  
ban expression of opinions just because we find them disgusting. "


he links to this article in the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/31/facebook-youtube-twitter-microsoft-eu-hate-speech-code


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Please do your best when trying to understand other people's views and post.  
Don't make me lose my time by making me repeat my self. That's all I ask when  
someone reply to my posts.


And when people just miss-read (some times on purpose) to make it seem like I  
said something different that what I actually said I get offended. And I  
think everyone would.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
SOPA and PIPA proposals don't belong here? Then how come people could talk  
all day long about that here?


The reason why I condemn this EU decision is EXACTLY the same why the  
Trisquel community condemned SOPA and PIPA.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie

> This is why people like you makes me sick
How can a harmless person on the internet make you sick? You have a big shock  
in store for you in life. People often say things you object to. How you  
react is important for how you behave towards others, and how they behave  
towards you in turn.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Read my post again, I said that I wouldn't mind this so much if it wasn't  
that isn't facebook, youtube and twitter who decided this on their own, but  
the EU, that's like if you're in some event and not the event organizer but  
the police decided to put you in jail not because the organizer called the  
police, but because the police has microphones everywhere.

Thus, the EU is attacking your freedom of expression.

Also, the EU might have ruled this for every site. But they already learned  
that they can't with failed proposals like PIPA and SOPA.


So? Why are you so hypocrite and think that PIPA and SOPA is an attack to  
network neutrality at the same time you think this is ok?


>"Making xenophobic speech is bad"
Yes, but the EU has no right to tell Facebook "People shall not say anything  
negative towards massive immigration".

That should at least be Facebook's decision not EU's.

>"Also, I am not a "communist", as you seem to be implying."
GO READ MY POST WITH ATTENTION. This is why people like you makes me sick,  
you miss read it or half-read and you think that's enough to understand what  
I've said.

I cite:
"Also, you're an hypocrite because if the decision was to ban all "communist  
speech" and they decided to tag free software as communist speech even though  
free software doesn't imply communism YOU'LL be the first one going out to  
protest about that."
I said that if the establishment decided to ban free software while the  
establishment said "free software is communist too" in this hypothetic  
scenario in which communism speech has been banned from Facebook, etc by EU  
decision, then you'll get mad and protest even though you don't necessarily  
defend communism. You see? I didn't imply that you're a communist, I imply  
that you'll get as mad as me and defend something you considered holy because  
the establishment used one law that had nothing to do with what you  
considered holy got banned because of interest.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread greatgnu
> I'm happy to note that I recently saw a headline asking if the Windows 10  
update reminders qualify as spyware.


More like adware - it is an add nagging the useds to upgrade to Nsaowns 10.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread greatgnu
This thread belongs to the troll hole. It has nothing to do with software.  
Take it there.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread onpon4
Oh, OK. Well, I would say that proprietary systems supporting OpenGL is a  
good thing. At the very least, it then doesn't encourage developing programs  
that depend on some proprietary standard, like DirectX.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
I am no hypocrite. This is not about free speech. It is about moderation  
within a set of clearly-defined boundaries, on certain sites. It is similar  
to how you can't just go into some event and make a speech about whatever you  
want. They might choose not to host you, and that would not be an assault on  
your freedom of speech, just your freedom to make it on their premises.  
Making xenophobic speech is bad and I think that this is reasonable, given  
that YouTube is accessed by many young/vulnerable people. They are not  
banning ideologies, just the open advocation of discrimination and targeted  
violence.
You can go and say these things in other places. I also don't understand how  
the EU forcing them to do it is better than some corporate decision. Public  
vs private power? I think the latter is worse.
Also, I am not a "communist", as you seem to be implying. Is it some scare  
label you apy to people who disagree with you? It makes no sense.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
None of that has any relevance, I point at that video as an example of this  
law being unjust. If you see the video you won't see hate, you won't see  
anything but facts. Facts that could be silenced with this new rule in the  
EU.


And I don't need to point out why this belongs here more than any other place  
since thats obvious. We the Trisquel community believe in freedom, freedom of  
computing, freedom of expression freedom of totalitarian governments that  
want to control our opinion (and even our soul if they could).


This is and example of freedom being attacked.



Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
None of that has any relevance, I point at that video as an example of this  
law being unjust. If you see the video you won't see hate, you won't see  
anything but facts. Facts that could be silenced with this new rule in the  
EU.


And I don't need to point out why this belongs here more than any other place  
since thats obvious. We the Trisquel community believe in freedom, freedom of  
computing, freedom of expression freedom of totalitarian governments that  
want to control our opinion (and even our soul if they could).


This is and example of freedom being attacked.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
He's making no secret of his views. I know he is a batshit neocon, white  
supremacist, antisemite, and Ku Klux Klan member. The media is biased but  
seriously, if anything it is biased against progressive causes. You are  
deluded, this really belongs in the Troll Hole, if anywhere.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
He's making no secret of his views. I know he is a batshit neocon, white  
supremacist, antisemite, and Ku Klux Klan member. The media is biased but  
seriously, if anything it is biased against progressive causes. You are  
deluded, this really belongs in the Troll Hole, if anywhere.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Wikipedia and the media can be incredibly bias. For example Bernie sanders is  
a former communist, but no one call him that all the time as they do with  
David Duke. Also, funny how now that saying of "no matter who says it if it's  
true it's true" matter now. Because I can see how you didn't saw any of the  
video and just limited to point out who's the author and say "wrong". That's  
not how investigation works, and you're no different from a religious fanatic  
who just want to say "satanic!" and silence the opposition with no base or  
argument.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
A video by David Duke? The same David Duke described by Wikipedia as "an  
American white nationalist, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, Holocaust  
denier, politician, and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan."
What a load of bs. The guy is not speaking the truth, just a load of  
antisemitic crap.
Come on, you can do better than that. That video is designed to feed into his  
antisemitic narrative, that there is a conspiracy by Jews to take over the  
world.

Also, I would not add a +1 or -1. That would be bad manners.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas

>"What they allow on their websites is their own business"

I wouldn't be so mad about this if it was by their own decision, but it's  
because the EU has ruled them to do it.
Also, you're an hypocrite because if the decision was to ban all "communist  
speech" and they decided to tag free software as communist speech even though  
free software doesn't imply communism YOU'LL be the first one going out to  
protest about that. YOU wouldn't say "it's their business".


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
You don't understand the implications of this. They will put videos like this  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDtT_GkqrE0 under the ""hate speech"" tag  
even though what he says in the video it's not hate, is truth.


This is nothing but a attempt to control public opinion.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
I'm saying although Google demands manufacturers to support OpenGL, which is  
free, the end result does not respect people's freedom. Sorry for not making  
this clear enough.


Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
I want to point out that moderation of comments is not an attack on freedom  
of speech. What they allow on their websites is their own business. You can  
voice your opinions through other means, no matter how vile and sickening  
they might be. However, just remember: just because you have the right to say  
something does not mean you should say it!
Also, they are removing hate speech. This generally means vile comments,  
whether they are about women, minorities, immigrants and refugees. I'm sure  
you get the idea, in fact, from the tone of your post I get a rather chilling  
impression that you think it is fine to say such things. Remember "political  
correctness" never hurt anyone. People like Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen, the  
Pegida thugs, the fascists in Greece, most certainly have said things and  
done things that have caused and exploited divisions, stigma, and violence.  
The tone of this post is disturbing. You are deliberately conflating the  
issues of the freedom to say something and the power of the governors of  
public spaces to make them safe places to inhabit.


[Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas

"New Online Hate-Speech Rules Threaten Free Speech (Op-Ed)"
"Web firms pledge to tackle online free speech"

"Microsoft, YouTube, Twitter and Facebook have pledged to remove free speech  
within 24 hours, in support of a code of conduct drafted by the EU."


And why? Because it hurst terrorist feelings, they only wanted to bomb you  
and kill you a little.


"It requires the firms to act quickly when told about free speech and to do  
more to help combat "xenophobic" content."


"The need for better ways to combat online free speech had become more urgent  
in the wake of terror attacks in Belgium, said Vera Jourova, European  
Commissioner for "Justice"."


And so, because it hurts terrorist feelings "Microsoft, YouTube, Twitter and  
Facebook have pledged to remove free speech within 24 hours"
As if we need any more reasons to stop using any services of Microsoft,  
YouTube, Twitter and Facebook.


http://www.tomsguide.com/us/eu-hate-speech-free-speech,news-22752.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36416967


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laptop too hot - CPU (almost) always at 100%

2016-06-02 Thread gnuser

Hey, I am having the same issue again.
I will have to try your method when the problem is occurring again (right now  
all is working well), since I think it will not be much good posting that  
output when the system is normal, right?


Also, if I may ask, what marks the beginning and  ending of the backtrace?
The beginning is the ""NMI Backtrace" thing, right? Where does it end so I  
know what to copy and paste?

Thanks.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Laptop too hot - CPU (almost) always at 100%

2016-06-02 Thread gnuser

Hey guys.
I have been getting similar behavior of my machine again (not as frequently  
but it happens), so I am "re opening" the issue.


I noticed it happens when the laptop is left unused for a long period of  
time, when I use it again it has the kworker requesting CPU power again.


I will try the methods suggested above but ask that anyone who can help to  
provide input here.

Thanks


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread sethcchrn6
GNU/Linux has the same problem that the Windows Phone platform has. No one's  
developing for it because it has such low market share, and it has such low  
market share because no one develops for it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread onpon4
> demands manufacturers to implement OpenGL for fancy effects, but it is  
still bad for your freedom


How is demanding that hardware manufacturers support an open standard bad for  
your freedom? Their support of OpenGL might require a proprietary driver or  
proprietary firmware, but that's a separate issue and would still be the case  
if they were using some proprietary interface like DirectX.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
The same can be true for Android, which demands manufacturers to implement  
OpenGL for fancy effects, but it is still bad for your freedom, especially on  
Quallcomm platforms. It does not matter that you are supporting these 'open'  
technologies if it harms your freedom. In a way, I might point out that it is  
actually quite cynical, these corporations want a free platform so that they  
can easily spread their non-free software; they primarily want freedom for  
themselves rather than for their users.
I still think people are better playing on GNU+Linux whatever they are doing  
though.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread tegskywalker
I also want to inject something else here. We all know that non-free software  
is bad, but when you play a game (non-free or not) on a GNU/Linux platform,  
you are supporting OpenGL and Vulkan, which are both open. If you support  
Windows, you are supporting the proprietary DirectX. If you are supporting  
Apple, you are supporting the proprietary Metal.


Apple has been trying to push out OpenGL for a while and due to their super  
controlling nature of drivers, they are not allowing Vulkan support for  
Nvidia. At least with Windows, they are allowing Vulkan which is a big step.  
Especially when the new DOOM game gets a Vulkan patch which should make it  
easier for WINE 1.9 to support it if they can get around the stupid Denuvo  
DRM:


http://images.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/videos/doom/doom-nvidia-geforce-gtx-geforce-dot-com-vulkan-graphics-api-gameplay-video.mp4


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

2016-06-02 Thread alejandrohp

Tor provides anonymity, but companies still receive data. :(


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie

Windows 7 is basically the LTS release.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread jason
They come from vendors. For example:  
https://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2015/12/10/the-linux-vendor-firmware-service-welcomes-dell/


But yes, your point is valid regardless of who it comes from. Time for free  
firmware!

https://jxself.org/free-firmware.shtml


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
There is a problem arising with fwupd, in that the firmware is  
user-submitted. Couldn't someone add a malicious firmware file?


Re: [Trisquel-users] I need a G++ 4.9. Where to find it?

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
The people in that thread are using Ubuntu 14.04 and can make it work, which  
Trisquel is based on. Your problem is not GCC, it is something else. Try  
redownloading the source code and seeing what happens. Reinstall all the  
dependencies, and check you didn't fail to install one by mistake. I hope you  
solve the problem!


Re: [Trisquel-users] I need a G++ 4.9. Where to find it?

2016-06-02 Thread stas . mihaylenko

This test: https://github.com/google/certificate-transparency/issues/1233


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer

It enables me to run free software, an excuse, my excuse.

The far more important point is, in my view, should I have to install Win  
first to be able to install a BIOS update. They should at least provide a way  
to update the BIOS without Windows. I think there is a way but I failed to do  
it right.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-06-02 Thread jadedml
It's not. You can completely bypass the Ubuntu App Centre to install Snap  
packages.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-06-02 Thread jadedml

I have to wonder, what programs would be Trisquel-specific?
Being binary-compatible with Ubuntu and without custom software being written  
for it, there isn't really any Trisquel-specific software, save a few small  
exceptions that wouldn't be beneficial to put in Snap packages. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread greatgnu
And here an issue arises: should I refuse to install proprietary software on  
my computer (the BIOS is software)? :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread greatgnu

tg3: Cinnamon (buguntu based)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
"Provides improved security of UEFI code and variables. HP strongly  
recommends

transitioning promptly to this updated BIOS version which supersedes all
previous releases."

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq//sp76001-76500/sp76003.html

I have always updated the BIOS when it's available -- so far three times in  
four years. Maybe they have rolled this out for transition to W10 platform.


The BIOS interface is crap, though. I'd like it conventional (Amibios).



Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
You are missing my point. Of course these "hardcore gamers" are better using  
GNU+Linux. It's just that they don't represent most people. They care about  
performance over free software. We should focus on people who would be happy  
now on GNU+Linux, such as children, people at school, people in academia, and  
the older generation who are just learning about personal computers and the  
internet.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie

Why did you need to update the BIOS? Was it crap or something?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
I had to install a copy of Win 10 to be able to update my laptop's BIOS. I  
tried other means but failed. Maybe it was due to the BIOS password, don't  
know, but the installer/updater/flasher reminded me of the password before  
proceeding. I had an old HDD that I swapped in for the update and then  
promptly replaced it with my SSD with Debian/CDE on it.