Re: [Trisquel-users] i'm Thinking about doing a free software Community(Forum)
Okay, You're Right. OYROIAF Is A Forum.
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Is it normal that bluetooth is not working
The 'download' feature in mps-youtube may work differently, since that probably doesn't use mpv, but if the stream feature just tells mpv what link to stream from it shouldn't be able to do anything mpv can't.
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Is it normal that bluetooth is not working
Streaming is downloading. If something wasn't on your computer and now it is, you've downloaded it, whether or not it gets saved to disc. Unless I'm mistaken, mpv uses youtube-dl (by default) or avideo to stream. If it is using avideo, it shouldn't be able to stream anything avideo can't download.
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Is it normal that bluetooth is not working
If I understand correctly, since mps-youtube only searches YouTube and relies on another media player to actually stream the videos, it will depend on how the chosen media player handles streaming. If you are using mpv with avideo in the background as Calher suggested in the other thread, any video requiring proprietary JavaScript simply won't play. The same should be true for youtube-viewer.
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Is it normal that bluetooth is not working
Maybe youtube-viewer or mps-youtube will work better. Both work fine for me in Trisquel 8. mps-youtube is even in the repository now, so you won't have to use pip.
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Is it normal that bluetooth is not working
Now that you've upgraded, see if you have better luck with those youtube applications.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Default web browser, Abrowser, in Trisquel 8 has Amazon, Twitter and Google as suggested search engines. Issue?
I'm on the fence here, in that I'm not a fan of Amazon or Google, but I don't know that this is a software freedom issue. I would have a problem with the Amazon search engine being built into the desktop environment Ubuntu-style, as I would consider that an endorsement, but one-click search engines seem like a reasonable feature for a web browser. Note that you are free to add and remove search engines. Amazon's and Google's search engines can be used without any proprietary software if you don't allow their JavaScript, and there are reasons you might choose to use them. For instance, while I refuse to buy from Amazon I will use their search engine to discover books to buy from other vendors. The fact that Google and Amazon (among other evils) create some proprietary software doesn't necessarily mean that everything associated with them must be avoided. There are ways in which free software benefits from Google. For example, enough of Android is free software that it was easier to fork it to create a mostly libre mobile OS (LineageOS) which was then forked to create an entirely libre mobile OS (Replicant) than it would have been to create Replicant from scratch. GNU Lilypond regularly participates in and benefits from Google Summer of Code. Google also does harmful things, but that isn't a reason not to take advantage of ways to benefit from them that don't compromise our freedom. They certainly don't mind taking advantage of ways to benefit from us! Trisquel shouldn't actively promote these companies and certainly shouldn't include any of their proprietary software, but I'm not sure whether supporting their search engines is outside of Trisquel's policies. Perhaps you should report this as an issue with the 'branding' tag just to make sure that the developer is aware, and they'll determine whether or not it should be removed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Is it normal that bluetooth is not working
I installed Trisquel 8 from the previous alpha ISO from a few months ago. I had trouble with the text installer, and I haven't gotten around to trying the new ISO to see if this is fixed, but the graphical installer worked fine. The next issue was that firmware-ath9k-htc (firmware for the ThinkPenguin WiFi dongle) was missing, but I understand that this is fixed in the new ISO from 12/24. The only technical problems I encountered were when trying to install other desktop environments. That won't be an issue if you stick to the default desktop environment. I've also run into some branding stuff left over from upstream, including some Ubuntu, Debian, and Amazon icons and logos. Those don't affect usability though. If you run into any, report them as an issue. Trisquel 8 seems much closer to completion than is implied by it being in alpha.
Re: [Trisquel-users] "E: Unable to locate package youtube/viewer" when trying to install youtube/viewer through terminal
> Unfortunately, some videos, like music videos, will not play without > proprietary software. Oh shit, I didn't consider that. That's a really good point. GrevenGull, it's possible that the videos you've been using to test youtube-viewer, mpv, and mps-youtube have DRM or something. This is often the case with things like music videos. Try some random personal uploads and see if you have better luck.
Re: [Trisquel-users] i'm Thinking about doing a free software Community(Forum)
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Re: [Trisquel-users] i'm Thinking about doing a free software Community(Forum)
FNF's Not a Forum?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Replicant on Nexus One
Once you've subscribed to the mailing list, send your question to replic...@osuosl.org
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
Startpage appears to be fully functional without JavaScript. Cool!
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
If you are new to GNU/Linux it is easy to be confused about the difference between the operating system and the desktop environment, because Window$ and macOS don't offer multiple desktop environments. You can think of the DE as the graphical interface over the underlying OS. LXDE (the default DE in Trisquel Mini) and Gnome Classic (the default in Trisquel) are both included in the Trisquel repository, along with XFCE, KDE Plasma, Gnome 3, Enlightenment, and many others. You can install and use whichever one you want, regardless of which one is installed by default. If you want to try Trisquel's default DE, as some here have suggested, there is no need to install regular Trisquel. Within Trisquel Mini, you can install the DE with $ sudo apt install trisquel trisquel-recommended To try it out, log out, click on the little icon near your name, select the DE you want to use, and log in.
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Loading/buffering into eternity when selecting SMPlayer YouTube Browser in repository
I recommend that you use one of these Firefox/Abrowser/IceCat addons. (1) NoScript (installed by default in Tor Browser) will block JavaScript code from all webpages unless you explicitly choose to allow it on a particular page. (2) LibreJS (installed by default in IceCat) will allow JavaScript code if it is trivial or if it can determine that it is free software. Otherwise you will have to explicitly choose to allow it on a particular page.
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Loading/buffering into eternity when selecting SMPlayer YouTube Browser in repository
You might be under the impression that JavaScript is a program in your browser, when it is in fact a programming language. Like any other programming language, it can be used to create libre or proprietary software. When you allow JavaScript on a webpage, your browser is installing and running software from the developer of the website. The software is not included in Trisquel. You should complain to the owner of the website.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
The JavaScript version of DuckDuckGo is non-free, and the HTML version does not have video search feature. YouTube's JavaScript is also non-free.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
Minitube no longer works unless it is compiled with a Google API key that you can only get with a Google account and would presumably identify you to Google every time you watch a video with your build. If you have a 64-bit machine with Debian or Trisquel you could try the binaries from the developer, which I guess if it works must use his own key. https://flavio.tordini.org/minitube
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Loading/buffering into eternity when selecting SMPlayer YouTube Browser in repository
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html https://onpon4.github.io/other/kill-js/
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
Sorry, I'm running out of ideas. I've had no problems with youtube-viewer in Trisquel 8 and never used it in Trisquel 7. For now, you could just use gtk-youtube-viewer for searching, right click on the video you want to play, select 'more details', copy the URL and paste it into vlc.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
Okay, that means you already had Python 3 installed. Try switching to a different player with > set player name-of-the-player Repeat until one of them works or you've tried all of the players you have installed. I'm running out of ideas.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
Hm. Perhaps this package is not in the Trisquel 7 repo. I don't know if that's the problem because I don't know what the package does. Let's remove that one from the list of packages we are installing and see if we can install everything else. $ sudo apt install liblwp-protocol-https-perl libtext-charwidth-perl libterm-readkey-perl libencode-perl mpv vlc wget
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
I think you forgot to attach the screenshot.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
To clarify, 'apt update' updates the repository to see if upgrades are available. 'apt upgrade' installs any available upgrades. In the comment you refer to, I suggested running both commands because you had already installed youtube-viewer and I wasn't sure if it was the latest version. Here, ran 'apt-update' before installing youtube-viewer, so it was already the latest version. Running 'apt upgrade' installs all upgrades for programs you have installed, not just youtube-viewer, which is why you might get message related to other upgrades, like the grub config file. youtube-viewer has some recommended and suggested packages. It's generally not a good idea to install all of them because you might end with a bunch of crap you don't need, but it's possible that I have one installed that you don't and that is why it works for me and not you, so let's install the ones I have installed and see if that helps. $ sudo apt install liblwp-useragent-chicaching-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libtext-charwidth-perl libterm-readkey-perl libencode-perl mpv vlc wget
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
Your question about the grub config file was unrelated to youtube-viewer.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
I see, thanks.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
> Maybe there is even a market for this. My macOS-used musician friends have been trained by Wirth's law to think that they always need the most recent hardware. It would be much easier to convince them to use a Corebooted and ME-cleaned laptop less than a few years old than to explain to them that the X200 can be upgraded with more RAM and a SSD and that not all audio software is as bloated and unstable as their proprietary DAWs.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
It could be that you're using Python 2 and mps-youtube expects 3. Install Python 3 $ sudo apt install python3 and try again.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
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Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
Okay, assuming you typed it correctly it might only be in the Trisquel 8 repo. You might have to install it via pip as suggested, but it really isn't too hard. $ sudo apt install python3-pip $ sudo pip3 install mps-youtube Then follow the instructions in my previous comment starting with$ mpsyt
Re: [Trisquel-users] Replicant on Nexus One
I had a Replicant question recently. The IRC was dead except for some weird racist spam, but the mailing list got back to me in a couple days, so you could try that in the future.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
Did you already set mps-youtube's default player to mpv with> set player mpv? If so, try a different player. When I tried mpv I only got audio, no video. I then tried vlc which worked.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
If you still want to try to get youtube-viewer working, run it from a terminal$ gtk-youtube-viewerattempt to play a video, and copy/paste any errors you get here.
Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube-viewer won't play videos
It is in the repo.$ sudo apt install mps-youtube It has a cli. Start it with$ mpsytset its video player to vlc with> set player vlcsearch for 'query' with> .queryand play the nth result with> n
Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel Mini) Loading/buffering into eternity when selecting SMPlayer YouTube Browser in repository
If I recall correctly, while SMPlayer is free software, the SMTube plugin that allows it to stream from YouTube is not, so it is disabled in Trisquel.
Re: [Trisquel-users] "E: Unable to locate package youtube/viewer" when trying to install youtube/viewer through terminal
Okay, run the UI from a terminal$ gtk-youtube-viewerattempt to play a video, and copy/paste any errors you get here.
Re: [Trisquel-users] "E: Unable to locate package youtube/viewer" when trying to install youtube/viewer through terminal
Here's something else to try if you've determined that your video player isn't the issue. Run the cli (command line interface) for youtube-viewer with$ youtube-viewer Type a keyword and press enter to search for videos, and then type 1 and press enter to play the first search result. See if that gives you an error message.
Re: [Trisquel-users] "E: Unable to locate package youtube/viewer" when trying to install youtube/viewer through terminal
This is related enough that it can probably stay in the same thread. Since it's not really a Trisquel issue let's not have too many separate threads. Which video player do you have under 'video_player_selected'? Make sure that this video player is definitely installed, and then try to play another video with that player (not through youtube-viewer).
Re: [Trisquel-users] "E: Unable to locate package youtube/viewer" when trying to install youtube/viewer through terminal
youtube-viewer is probably included in "and others"
Re: [Trisquel-users] "E: Unable to locate package youtube/viewer" when trying to install youtube/viewer through terminal
No problem. Press [Enter] to continue like it says and install youtube-viewer. Just don't install anything else from this PPA without checking the license first to make sure it's free software.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ctrl+alt+del equivalent?
Here you go. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-linux-command-line_william-e-shotts-jr/599264/#isbn=1593273894 I've explained how I found it here, since it's more relevant to that thread: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-do-you-get-your-books-2#comment-125294
Re: [Trisquel-users] How do you get your books? 2
For buying a specific physical book, I will sometimes search for the book on Amazon through Tor without JavaScript, click on "Other Sellers," find the website for one of the other sellers, and buy it from them directly. I like Powell's, but their search engine requires JavaScript, so I search their site via DuckDuckGo with 'site:powells.com'
Re: [Trisquel-users] "E: Unable to locate package youtube/viewer" when trying to install youtube/viewer through terminal
I assume that have added youtube-viewer https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer via the PPA with$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 Now update the repository with$ sudo apt updateand install with$ sudo apt install youtube-viewer
Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?
Try running$ sudo apt updatefirst. If that doesn't work, start a new thread. David is right that there should be one topic per thread. No one is going to look for information about YouTube in a thread about water cooling.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Synapse alternative?
I don't recommend using Rekonq anyway because it has been discontinued, but when you spot things like that you can report it here: https://trisquel.info/en/project/issues
Re: [Trisquel-users] Synapse alternative?
When I used Trisquel 7 I found that the text installer worked better than the graphical installer. It may look intimidating, but if you accept the defaults and select the 'Trisquel' desktop environment (not 'Triskel' as I accidentally did my first time and ended up with a very ugly configuration of KDE) you should be able to install Trisquel more easily than with the graphical installer.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
> But pragmatically speaking, it also provide the possibility for some people to achieve partial freedom with modern hardware. This is a value. I agree with you here. If I understand correctly, your view is that the service Purism provides is important and beneficial enough that in spite of their dishonestly, they do more good than harm, and since there isn't a similar company to support, we should support them. You might be right. The reason I'm hesitant to reach that conclusion is that, while getting people to use as much free software as possible is important, I think that in the long term it is also important for people to be informed, and I worry that if Purism becomes a dominant voice they will continue to spread ignorance. Neither the Librem approach nor the libreboot approach is a good long term solution for the same reason: post-2010 Intel chip sets will probably never be liberated. This means that the Librem will always be non-free and librebootable machines will stop being manufactured. (Librebootable machines will continue to become dated, although I disagree that they are to old for normal desktop use now. Even my X60+SSD works fine for everything except games and demanding audio-editing setups that no non-musician would need. I'm sure that an X200+SSD+16G RAM will be more than sufficient for my needs, although newer hardware would be a nice convenience.) This is why initiatives to become independent of Intel, such as EOMA68, are important. Libreboot and Librem are fine compromises for now, but people need to understand why alternatives are worth investing in. Libreboot is open about the fact that they will probably never support post-2010 chip sets, but Purism spreads a misconception that it is already possible to have freedom with modern hardware. Perhaps I'm overestimating the potential effect of Purism's marketing tactics, but I generally feel that it is important for people to understand their own computing if they are to take control of it, and I'm skeptical of efforts to prevent this for personal gain. That said, maybe you're right that Purism is the best we have right now when it comes to as-free-as-possible-with-modern-hardware computing, and that until we do we should not be undermining Purism. I'm not sure, but you've gotten me to reconsider. > People here should discuss why other companies here don't invest on the same field. That is a good question. They wouldn't even need to manufacture their own laptops like Purism chooses to. They could have a comparable but less expensive product by doing exactly what you said: > I would check on the coreboot website the compatibility with newer laptops, and I would choose a well compatible one. Then I would buy it and install coreboot and use the me_cleaner by myself. This would save me a lot of money. Even a ME cleaning service would be valuable, but selling corebooted, ME-cleaned laptops seems manageable. You know way more about this than I do, though, so I'd like to hear your thoughts. Does anyone know of somebody who does this?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?
My 'video_players' field looks a little different, even though we are using
the same version of youtube-viewer (3.3.1). Copy/paste that field to a text
document so that you can undo this if it doesn't work, and then replace that
field with this:
{
mplayer => {
arg => "-prefer-ipv4
-really-quiet -title *TITLE*",
audio => "-audiofile *AUDIO*",
cmd => "mplayer",
fs=> "-fs",
srt => "-sub *SUB*",
},
mpv => {
arg => "--really-quiet --title
*TITLE* --no-ytdl",
audio => "--audio-file *AUDIO*",
cmd => "/usr/bin/mpv",
fs=> "--fullscreen",
srt => "--sub-file *SUB*",
},
smplayer => {
arg => "-close-at-end
-media-title *TITLE* *URL*",
cmd => "smplayer",
fs => "-fullscreen",
srt => "-sub *SUB*",
},
vlc => {
arg => "--quiet
--play-and-exit --no-video-title-show --input-title-format *TITLE*",
audio => "--input-slave
*AUDIO*",
cmd => "vlc",
fs=> "--fullscreen",
srt => "--sub-file *SUB*",
},
},
Re: [Trisquel-users] Synapse alternative?
For me Synapse uses DuckDuckGo as its search engine, and I don't see a place to change it. Perhaps it uses the search engine of your default browser. What is your default browser? In general, this is a good resource for finding alternatives to a program. https://alternativeto.net/software/synapse-launcher/?license=opensource If you have JavaScript disabled (which I advise) you won't be able to filter by license from within the page. Instead just append '?license=opensource' to the URL.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
My last comment (#53) was a response to #51 but is showing up as a response to #52. I've noticed this bug before. I think it's because #51 was the last comment on page 1 when I responded and has since been pushed to page 2.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
Thank you for acknowledging that the issue is *not* whether Purism's laptops have non-free components, but whether they disclose this. There are two separate discussions here: (1) Purism makes the minimum number of freedom compromises necessary to avoid having to use older hardware. The result is a laptop that has some freedom issues, but that is much more libre than most laptops with similar specs. (2) Purism does not disclose these freedom issues to potential customers, and actively uses misleading language to prevent them from learning about these issues. The FSF would probably say that (1) and (2) are both unacceptable. I feel that (1) is acceptable and (2) is unacceptable. I actually think (1) is not only acceptable but important. If Purism only did (1) I would be enthusiastic about them. Purism fans agree that (1) is acceptable, and change the subject to (1) every time (2) comes up. Yours is the first comment in this thread to actually argue that (2) is false. However, I'm still questioning my sanity over here because that's what my very first comment was about. If you haven't already, check out the page I linked to. https://puri.sm/products/librem-15/ Maybe I'm just losing my mind and virtually every single sentence (apart from the ones about specs) *doesn't* imply that both software and hardware are free. Maybe the proprietary blobs in coreboot are disclosed and I just wasn't paying attention. (Btw, I'm not referring to Intel ME. Since they deactivate the ME I don't see a need for them to disclose whether any of code is still physically present. Same goes for inactive blobs in storage on the X200. The proprietary blobs in coreboot, on the other hand are active and coreboot won't work without them.) But I mean, look at the first two sentences: "The Librem 15 is the first ultra-portable workstation laptop that was designed chip-by-chip, line-by-line, to respect your rights to privacy, security, and freedom. Every hardware and software component—and everything we do—is in line with our belief in respecting your rights to privacy, security, and freedom." How else am I supposed to read that? And virtually every sentence not about specs is like that. Coreboot isn't even mentioned, and the only page I found that does mention it falsely implies that it is libre. Am I underestimating the average reader and maybe no one would be mislead by this page? Am I making a mistake in assuming bad faith and the misleading language in this page is unintentional? Perhaps there is another page that customers see prior to finalizing their purchase that clarifies? Is (1) so important that (2) can be forgiven or overlooked? Is the strategy to convert first and educate second so glossing over some issues is just pragmatism? There are intelligent people here defending Purism and I sincerely want to understand their reasoning. It would be a relief to have my concerns about Purism addressed because I think it's important to have an as-free-as-possible-with-modern-hardware vendor and I wish that I could support this one.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?
A fatal error is one that causes the program to exit. Nothing to be worried about. Can you send a screen shot of your gtk-youtube-viewer preferences, beginning with 'video_player_selected'?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?
The Midori issue is probably unrelated. Is trisquel.info the only site you're having trouble with? After changing 'video_player_selected' to mpv, (re)installing mpv, running gtk-youtube-viewer from a terminal, and trying to play a video, what appears in the terminal? Is it still 'sh: mpv: not found' or do you get something else?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?
Let's change it back to mpv. (In general I prefer vlc, but mpv is more reliable for streaming.) and make sure that mpv is definitely installed$ sudo apt install mpvand try again. If it still doesn't work, run $ sudo apt update $ sudo apt upgrade 'apt update' will update the Trisquel repository and any PPAs you have installed to reflect available upgrades. 'apt upgrade' will upgrade any upgradable packages you have installed. I should have had you run 'apt update' after adding the PPA but it slipped my mind.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ctrl+alt+del equivalent?
Okay, LXDE doesn't have a GUI for editing keybindings. You have to edit a config file. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard#Create_New_Keyboard_shortcuts (Lubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu with LXDE as its default desktop environment, similarly to how Trisquel Mini is a flavor of Trisquel with LXDE as its desktop environment.) Your choices: (1) Edit the config file. The Lubuntu instructions say that the config file is '~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml', but yours might be called '~/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml' or something else with 'lxde' in the name. Note that '~' is your home folder, equivalent to '/home/[your username]'. Also note that files and directories that begin with a '.' are hidden by default. You can display hidden files in your file manager with 'Ctrl+H'. If you go this route, here's an explanation of the syntax. http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Syntax (2) Use xbindkeys. The reason you couldn't launch xbindkeys from the menu or Synapse is that it has a command-line interface (cli) and has to be used in a terminal. I've never used it, but you can access some documentation with$ man xbindkeysand$ xbindkeys --helpWhen you aren't sure how to use a cli, 'man [program]' and '[program] --help' often can give you useful information. You can also search online. (3) Switch to a different desktop environment. It seems that you don't find LXDE very intuitive. Most Trisquel users use GNOME, since that's the default in vanilla Trisquel, so if you switch to GNOME it will be easier for people to help you. It isn't that much heavier than LXDE, so it should still run okay on an older machine. It should also be easier to edit keybindings in GNOME than LXDE. If you want to try out a different desktop environment, first install it. For example,$ sudo apt install gnomeThen logout. At the login screen there will be a small icon near the login field. If you click on this you can choose from the desktop environments you have installed. You might see both GNOME and 'GNOME Classic' or something similar. 'GNOME Classic' is what you want. Then login.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ctrl+alt+del equivalent?
Xfce is a desktop environment, like Lxde (which is what you are using since it's the default in Trisquel Mini). Any desktop environment including Xfce, Gnome (the default in Trisquel 7), MATE (the default in Trisquel 8), and Lxde should have a menu for setting keybindings. However, it may be called something slightly different and in a slightly different place, which is why those of us who don't use Lxde can't tell you exactly where to look. In MATE, the menu is called 'Keyboard Shortcuts'. It might be called that in Lxde, or it might be called something else like 'Keybindings'. If you've installed Synapse, open Synapse, type 'key', press down arrow, and see if you can find it. Once you find that menu, map the command xkill to whatever keyboard shortcut you want. I have it mapped to Ctrl+Alt+X. Don't feel self-conscious about having to ask questions. Stepping outside your comfort zone to protect your freedom is nothing to be ashamed of.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?
Go to Menu->Preferences and scroll down to 'video_player_selected' (see second screenshot). That is the video player that YouTube Viewer will use to play the videos. If you don't have that video player installed, either install it or change it to your preferred video player out of the ones listed in the next entry, 'video_players'. Then try again to play a video. If that doesn't work, run YouTube Viewer from a terminal,$ gtk-youtube-viewertry to play a video, and see if an error message appears in the terminal. (This is a good way to diagnose any problem with an application when the application doesn't give you a useful error message.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?
You can either build it from source or use a PPA. For a beginner I'd recommend a PPA. $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8will allow you to install it like you'd install any Trisquel package, either in a terminal$ sudo apt install youtube-vieweror in Synaptic. In general, if you install something from a PPA, make sure that you check the license yourself to make sure that it is free software. Here's a quick explanation of what a PPA is. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPA
Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage
Sorry we didn't find an easier solution. I'm glad it's working now.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?
The advantage of using these programs instead of youtube.com is avoiding (1) proprietary JavaScript and (2) being tracked. It would be better to avoid YouTube altogether in order to minimize Google's power over our access to information, but in situations where you have to use YouTube it is worth taking steps to protect your freedom as much as possible.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to add and remove applications etc from the start menu?
Not quite. Those instructions were for launching Main Menu from Synapse after installing Synapse. It sounds like you've already solved your problem, but I'll explain anyway because I think you'll find it useful next time you can't find something. Searching Synapse is much easier than digging through menus. The first command$ sudo apt install synapseinstalls synapse. That will work for any package if you replace 'synapse' with the name of the package. The second command$ synapsewould have launched Synapse, which looks like a search bar that appear in the middle of the screen. This allows you to search and launch applications and locations in your system. Typing 'main menu' at that point would have searched for the menu editor in Synapse, and pressing enter would have launched it. (see attached screenshot) If you click on the circle in the top right of Synapse and select 'preferences' you can configure Synapse to start on login (in the background) and decide a shortcut to launch it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to add and remove applications etc from the start menu?
If you want to add an icon, then click the square to the left of the 'Name' field, navigate to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/ and select alacarte.png
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to add and remove applications etc from the start menu?
Run $ sudo apt install alacarte $ alacarte(Don't type the $'s, that just means you aren't running as root.) This menu editor has no advantages over the default one except that I know the terminal command for it. Now let's add this menu editor to the menu so that we don't have to use the terminal to access it in the future. Within the menu editor, click 'Other', and then click 'New Item'. For name type 'Menu Editor'. In your menu, under 'Other', you should now see 'Menu Editor' and can now get back to this window from there.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to add and remove applications etc from the start menu?
I'd be very surprised if apt isn't working. Runsudo apt install synapse synapseSynapse will appear in the center of the screen. Type 'main menu' and press enter.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to add and remove applications etc from the start menu?
Did you try davidpgil's suggestion of using Synapse?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage
Okay, I'm out of ideas except for uninstalling Guix completely and reinstalling. Unfortunately I can't find anything in the documentation about uninstalling. A fresh install of T7 would work as a last resort. Maybe ADFENO will stop by and save the day. In the meantime, you might try the help-guix mailing list. https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-guix They're pretty responsive.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage
It sounds like the desktop files are missing, which explains why they aren't showing up in menus and Synapse. Now we just have to figure out how to get them back. Did you reinstall Guix after returning to Trisquel 7, or is this the current install from when you were using Trisquel 8? Try rerunning steps 4 and 8 of the Guix installation. https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Binary-Installation.html
Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage
Just double checking that it matches what's in the ${XDG_DATA_DIRS} output.
It does, so that's not the problem.
Try checking the contents of '~/.guix-profile/share/applications' Do you see
desktop files for the applications you expect to appear in the menu?
If no, try reinstalling one of the applications and see if that creates a
desktop file there.
If yes, do the applications for which you have desktop files appear in a
launcher like Synapse?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is PyCharm free software?
It looks like the community edition you link to is libre. It looks like the products available for download from Jetbrains' site, including PyCharm Profession, are not due to their EULA. I use IDLE for simple Python programs and Eclipse for larger ones. Here's a good resource for finding libre alternatives to non-free programs. https://alternativeto.net/software/pycharm/?license=opensource
Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?
youtube-dl is great. There's a GUI for it too, https://mrs0m30n3.github.io/youtube-dl-gui/ though I haven't tried it. You might also look into gtk-youtube-viewer, https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer which works well for searching, browsing, and streaming.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
> there is clearly some effort being put into trying to be free as in freedom I never said there wasn't. I've been pretty consistent in *not* criticizing them for making freedom compromises for newer hardware. I've only criticized them for intentionally hiding these compromises from potential customers. I haven't heard a single Purism fan deny or defend this, instead deflecting with straw men every time it's brought up. I suspect that if they had a defense of Purism on this issue I'd have heard it by now. > Its like smacking down an addict who is trying to get sober. A better analogy would someone selling nicotine gum while using marketing double-speak to trick people into thinking it contains no nicotine. Nicotine gum is a legitimate tool that can be useful for people who want to quit smoking by gradually reducing their dependence on nicotine. There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling it to people who make an informed choice to use it. However, consumers have a right to know what they are putting in their bodies and how much of it. Hiding that information from them is deeply unethical. > Frankly, people chill out. Maybe you don't agree that vendors should disclose non-libre components of products they market as libre. Or maybe you agree that they should but you don't see it as a very important issue, in which case I can understand why it seems like some of us are overreacting. There are many issues pertaining to software freedom and it is fine and healthy for people on the same side to have slightly different priorities. However, I hope you can acknowledge the issue and understand why it is important to some of us, even if you don't see it as a priority.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
They could make a libre laptop, but the specs would have to be lower. I don't mind that they compromise on freedom for more modern hardware. It's not ideal, but there is a set of people who would be unwilling to use any of the machines supported by libreboot, and I would much rather they use PureOS + Coreboot - Intel ME than a Macbook Pro or some other atrocity. However, potential users of Purism's products should know exactly how they would be compromising their freedom so that they can make an informed decision, and it is Purism's responsibility to inform them. Otherwise, even if they learn about some of the freedom issues on our own, they won't know how many more there are that they don't know about unless they have the knowledge and time required to investigate. If, like Technoethical, Purism clearly documented the freedom limitations of their products, I would have no problem with them, and I bet they would still be very successful.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage
Yes, I also think that's where the Mate stuff is from, but as long as
/home/davidpgil/.guix-profile/share
is in there I don't see why that would matter
What is the output of$ echo ${GUIX_PROFILE}?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage
Mine looks like this in Trisquel 8 /usr/share/mate:/usr/share/mate:/home/mason/.guix-profile/share:/usr/share/mate:/usr/share/mate:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop I think /home/mason/.guix-profile/share was added by ADFENO's steps. ADFENO's solution worked fine back when I was using Trisquel 7 too. What specifically is going wrong for you?
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
I have no issues with Purism except for the way they promote their laptops, so I don't know what prior experience could be biasing me against the way they promote their laptops. Have you read the page I linked to yet? It's not like I'm cherry picking a few potentially misleading quotes from what is otherwise transparent and informative. Can you find a single sentence pertaining to freedom that does not falsely imply that the laptop is 100% libre? The closest I can find is this one: "PureOS, from the bootloader, kernel, through to the hundreds of thousands of software applications available, is built line-by-line with emphasis on your rights to privacy, security, and freedom." That sentence only makes a claim about the OS, which is libre, so I don't have a problem with it, although it does seem to imply that every line of code in PureOS was either written by Purism or written by another developer motivated by privacy, security, and freedom, neither of which is the case. I don't see how anyone can look at that page and claim that it isn't misleading, and the misleading language is so consistent, effective, and well-written that I can't imagine that it isn't intentional. Am I just going crazy?
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
> The FSF article states that Purisms hardware is still not approved. Yes, the FSF was very clear. I wish that Purism were equally transparent. > its just the reality of tryign to run a business that costs millions of dollars to keep afloat. Minifree manages to survive selling only freedom respecting products. Technoethical sells some products that are not 100% libre, but they are extremely upfront about it so that potential customers are not mislead. Compare the Purism page I linked to to the Technoethical page I linked to. > cleaning up the distro is a great step It's Debian based. Once you remove the non-free and contrib repositories from Debian there is no more "cleaning up" to do as far as freedom goes. > Its generally quite difficult.impossible right now to create an appealing computer these days with fully open hardware That's why pretending to have free hardware is dangerous. Why would anyone support libreboot or EOMA68 if they don't understand why such efforts are necessary?
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
You're confusing PureOS, which is libre and warrants FSF endorsement, with Librem laptops, which are not and do not. This is not your fault, but a result of Purism being intentionally misleading at every opportunity.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
> No, their laptops are not perfect now, but please show me a place where they state/imply that they are. I already have. The page I linked to https://puri.sm/products/librem-15/ implies that the laptop has no freedom issues as strongly as possible without making any explicitly false statements. The language tows the line so carefully that it is obvious that the intention is to mislead. If you didn't know anything about Purism you would almost certainly interpret this page has saying that the laptop is libre. In order to find out what BIOS it uses, you have to click "compare specifications with our other models" which is the last thing on the page. That takes you here, https://puri.sm/products/ and the second to last thing on that page discloses that it uses coreboot. Even then, their wording is "Say goodbye to proprietary BIOSes, say hello to coreboot," clearly implying that coreboot is not a proprietary BIOS, when they know that it contains proprietary blobs. You'd have to be deliberately obtuse to argue that Purism is honest.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
> Its like they all got high and just watched old videos of Steve Jobs for hours when they were coming up with how they would engage with the world. Haha. That sums it up better.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
It's a shame, because if they were upfront about the freedom issues with their products the way Technoethical is https://tehnoetic.com/mobile-devices/tet-n2 I might recommend them to people who want a mostly libre system but are willing to make some compromises to have more modern hardware. Unfortunately, their lack of transparency makes them untrustworthy, and I could not direct people to them with a clear conscience.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions
I was curious to see if Purism had started conflating this with their non-free hardware yet. They don't yet mention the FSF endorsement, but I had forgotten just how slimy they are. https://puri.sm/products/librem-15/ No mention of the fact that only the OS is free. They don't even disclose what BIOS it uses. (Last I heard it was Coreboot.) And I love sentences like these: "Every hardware and software component—and everything we do—is in line with our belief in respecting your rights to privacy, security, and freedom." They don't say "Every hardware and software component respects your rights to privacy, security, and freedom." because that wouldn't be true, but unless you read very carefully that's how you would interpret it. "The first 15.6″ laptop designed to protect your digital life" is great too. Let's act like this product is the first of its kind because similar products have different dimensions. "Purism Key: A powerful key to search your computer and applications" It's literally just a WIN key with a rectangle on it instead. Not a freedom issue, but come on. "Every hardware chip individually selected with emphasis on freedom-respecting" Again, they don't say "Every hardware chip freedom-respecting" because that wouldn't be a true, but if you didn't know anything about Purism and had no context you'd read it that way. "Comes with the most rights-respecting operating system" Pure OS is FSF-endorsed, but how is it *more* rights-respecting than other FSF-endorsed distros? "The first high-end 15″ laptop that respects your privacy, security, and freedom." Here they start to border on explicitly lying. "Respects your freedom" to many people has a specific meaning that does does not apply to this product. The end. No where in the entire page do they disclose that this is not a libre product, and every sentence is carefully crafted to mislead the reader into thinking that it is. What a scam.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I Went Back From Trisquel 8 Alpha to Trisquel 7 and This Is What Happened
Trisquel/Guix (or as I've taken to calling it lately, Trisquel+Guix) is a great solution. You get the stability of a LTS distro with the ability to upgrade a package to the latest version of a package if necessary. That said, since the packages in Trisquel 8 are more up-to-date, I've found since upgrading that I don't have to rely on Guix as often, which has had some advantages. - Updating and installing with apt is faster and more convenient. guix pull takes much longer than apt update. When binary substitutes are not available Guix will begin building from source, which is better than the install failing, but it once took 16 hours just to install Emacs, which then wouldn't launch. - Many packages in Trisquel have not been packaged yet in Guix. For instance, Guix has none of the popular GUI mail clients or web browsers. Trisquel 8 already has Abrowser/Firefox 57, whereas Trisquel 7 does not and there is no equivalent in Guix. - I recommend Trisquel to people who want to use an accessible libre distro. While I'm comfortable supplementing Trisquel with Guix, they would not be. When possible, I prefer solutions to protect my freedom that will help my friends as well. - This might be a bit of an edge case, but Trisquel 8 has the latest stable version of Lilypond (2.18.2) and Guix always has the latest development version (currently 2.19.63). This makes it very easy to have both versions installed alongside each other. Back when I used Trisquel 7, which has 2.16.2, I had to rely on Guix just to get the current stable version. By default Guix will only install the latest devel version of Lilypond, and it took quite a bit of support from the guix-help mailing list to override Guix's default behavior in this way.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install packages downloaded from the web, like IceCat?
... Yeah, that's way easier. Thanks, Magic Banana. GrevenGull, you can get the 'command' for the menu entry by right clicking 'Tor Browser' in tor-browser_en-US, selecting 'Properties', and copying what's in the 'command' field. For me it looks like this. sh -c '"/home/mason/Applications/tor-browser_en-US/Browser/start-tor-browser" --detach || ([ ! -x "/home/mason/Applications/tor-browser_en-US/Browser/start-tor-browser" ] && "$(dirname "$*")"/Browser/start-tor-browser --detach)' dummy %k
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install packages downloaded from the web, like IceCat?
It's 'dpkg', not 'spkg'. Maybe quadruple check. :) You can also use Gdebi Package Installer if you'd prefer a GUI.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Rekong gives wierd suggestions not in line with FSF?
It uses KDE Plasma as its default desktop environment instead of GNOME (the default in Trisquel) or LXDE (the default in Trisquel Mini). It's possible that Rekonq is a dependency of of the version of KDE Plasma in Trisquel 7, similarly to how you recently discovered that Pidgin and Lifrea are a dependency of GNOME. In this case, Trisquel 7 would have had to include Rekonq even though it shouldn't be used anymore (Konqueror has replaced it as the KDE browser).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Rekong gives wierd suggestions not in line with FSF?
Trisquel is FSF-endorsed because it is committed to including only free software. Rekonq is free software. Although Facebook, Google, and Amazon are terrible companies who among other things create some proprietary software, their search engines do not require any proprietary software (just don't use them with JavaScript enabled). I agree, though, that Rekonq should not be in the repository. Fortunately, it looks like Rekonq has been removed in Trisquel 8.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Rekong gives wierd suggestions not in line with FSF?
Rekonq is developed by KDE, not Trisquel. Apparently KDE does not see a problem with recommending Google or Amazon. That shouldn't be interpreted as an endorsement of those companies by Trisquel. Trisquel does remove from Firefox such recommendations as well as recommendations for proprietary add-ons (the result is Abrowser), but doing the same for Rekonq is probably not a priority since Rekonq has been discontinued for several years.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install packages downloaded from the web, like IceCat?
Yes, you're right. I wasn't thinking.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Unable to remove applications, help
Pidgin and Lifrea are part of GNOME, your desktop environment (assuming that you are using Trisquel 7). If you remove them along with their dependencies you might accidentally remove something important. If you don't plan to use these applications (give Liferea a chance though, I like it a lot) and you aren't hurting for disk space, you may be better off just hiding them from your menu.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install packages downloaded from the web, like IceCat?
IceCat doesn't show up under 'Add/Remove Applications' but is in the repository. You can install it from Synaptic Package Manager, or in a terminal$ sudo apt install icecat If you are using Trisquel 7, Thunderbird is called Icedove. Again, it can be installed from Synaptic Package Manager, or in a terminal$ sudo apt install icedove In general, if you don't see something in 'Add/Remove Applications' that you suspect should be there, check Synaptic Package Manager. If by Tor you mean Tor Browser, it is indeed not in the repository. Users of Tor Browser need to receive updates immediately and simultaneously, regardless of which distro they use, to ensure that they have identical browser configurations, preserving anonymity. Download Tor Browser directly from https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en After downloading the tar.xz file, find a good place to extract it. I have a directory in my home folder called Applications for applications like these. After extracting, you now have ~/Applications/tor-browser_en-US (~ is your home folder, equivalent to /home/[your username]). You can delete the tar.xz file now. Enter ~/Applications/tor-browser_en-US, double click 'Tor Browser Setup', and it will turn into 'Tor Browser'. You can now double click that to launch Tor Browser, no need to install. If you would like Tor Browser to show up in menus alongside your other applications, you'll need to create a desktop file$ sudo nano ~/.local/share/applications/tor-browser.desktopcontaining[Desktop Entry] Name=Tor Browser Exec=/home/[your username]/Applications/tor-browser_en-US/Browser/start-tor-browser Icon=/home/[your username]/Applications/tor-browser_en-US/Browser/browser/icons/mozicon128.png Type=Application Categories=GNOME;GTK;Network;WebBrowser;In the paths following 'Exec=' and 'Icon=' replace '/home/mason/Applications' with wherever you extracted the tar.xz file. You might have to logout and login again before Tor Browser starts showing up in menus.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on- and questions regarding Trisquel Mini on MacBookPro9, 1
I don't know if it's the case with Trisquel Mini, but with some other live CDs I've found that they'll make the ISO smaller by only containing what's necessary to try out and install.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on- and questions regarding Trisquel Mini on MacBookPro9, 1
You really don't see $25 at the link I gave? I was referring to whatever you see under "System Tools" in the menu. There should be a tools for whatever you're trying to achieve. Hopefully someone more familiar with LXDE than I will come by and be able to give you more specific advice. I found with Trisquel 8 on my ThinkPad X60 that some issues with the live image went away after installation. It might be worth installing first before you spend too much time banging your head.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on- and questions regarding Trisquel Mini on MacBookPro9, 1
There's a $25 one, https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb but no, your WiFi card will not work without proprietary firmware. I'm not too familiar with LXDE (the desktop environment for Trisquel Mini) but you might be able to find what you're looking for under "System Tools."
Re: [Trisquel-users] Maybe its time to rethink Mozilla products
Installing the addon automatically was indeed a mistake. I believe that it was an honest mistake on Mozilla's part, as I'm sure they value their privacy-respecting image over a game, but it certainly erodes trust. The addon in and of itself doesn't seem malicious, and because it is libre software any undesirable features could be removed. Since the addon was disabled by default, it did not affect anyone who did not want to use it. If the addon were proprietary it would be a more serious issue, as Mozilla should not push proprietary software. However, Mozilla already had a policy of recommending non-free addons. Fortunately, Firefox is free software so others have been able to fix this and other problems in Abrowser, Icecat, Tor Browser, etc. There were already reasons to use these forks instead of Firefox, and Mozilla has not impaired our ability to do that, so little has changed as far as I'm concerned. Mozilla did make a mistake, and I hope they learn from it, but even if they aren't as serious about privacy as they claim they don't even begin to compare to Google. Google doesn't even pay lip service to privacy. They try to train us not to value our privacy so that we will give it to them gratis and they can sell it. So far they are winning. When Firefox 57 came out, I saw people switch from Chrome for the better performance. (Not that anyone should use Chrome regardless of performance, but whatever.) When people I know installed Firefox and were prompted to configure their privacy settings, it got them thinking about their privacy. Knowing that I'm already healthily paranoid, they began asking me questions about internet privacy. If Mozilla is teaching people to care about their privacy again, they are a valuable ally regardless of how well they deliver.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass
If your only problem with Firefox is its addon policies, Abrowser is the most similar alternative that addresses that. The version of Abrowser in the Trisquel 8 repository has already been updated to version 57. Icecat would be a good option if you would like some additional privacy features and don't mind that it's based on an older version of Firefox. However, anonymity is a prerequisite for privacy. Use Tor Browser if you are truly concerned for your privacy.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix on Trisquel
I was also confused when I started using GUIX. ADEFNO provided a very helpful answer: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/guix-usage#comment-119341
Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm happy that Trisquel 8 is finally being developed, but I won't have time to help. I wish everyone good luck :D
I've been using Trisquel 8 for weeks. It's basically ready with just a few things to wrap up. However, if you are unwilling to use it until the official release and want to use a similarly accessible distro in the meantime, Ubuntu would be a better temporary compromise than Mint. Ubuntu quarantines much of its proprietary software in its "multiverse" and "restricted" repositories. It should not have these repositories at all, and disabling them still does not make it a fully freedom-respecting distro, but it is better than Mint which makes no effort to clarify whether software is proprietary. Also, you would be able to migrate from Ubuntu 16.04 to Trisquel 8 once it's released without reinstalling.
Re: [Trisquel-users] So what about the new Trisquel? Is it going to be released?
https://xkcd.com/1508/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot X200 returns on Minifree
I'm sorry this happened again, Leah. Thanks so much for all of your hard work. I'm glad that a variety of vendors can ethically distribute freedom-respecting laptops that you made possible. Forum posts do not seem to be the best medium for providing information about products from any of these vendors. Perhaps adverts like ThinkPenguin's would be a better way of informing the Trisquel community.
Re: [Trisquel-users] how to work with plain text
Tested in Pluma, but other text editors should work similarly: Use "find and replace" (Ctrl+H in Pluma). Make sure "Parse escape sequences" is checked. - replace "AM" with "AM\n\n" - replace "PM" with "MP\n\n" - replace "Received from" with "\n\nReceived from"
