Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel 8 Mini on tablet
At least 2 conditions must be met. One is CPU architecture. The tablet must have an x86_64 processor in order to run Trisquel 8. The other requirement is that the tablet's firmware (UEFI) must allow users to disable Secure Boot. For arm(64) platform, the situations are even worse. Almost all smart phones and tablets have boot loader locked down (something like Secure Boot). It's increasingly hard to unlock the boot loader (something like disabling Secure Boot on x86 computers), and some manufacturers don't allow unlocking boot loader at all (e.g. Apple and Huawei). Even if you had successfully unlocked the device, you'd find it unusable without lots of proprietary firmware (modem, WiFi, bluetooth, and even display all require non-free firmware to work).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel 8 Mini on tablet
> Is it possible to install on tablet Trisquel 8 Mini with GNURootDebian > or similar? What is the architecture of the device? If it is x86 then it might be possible, but I'm don't really know. If it is ARM, then it cannot run Trisquel 8, but may be able to run Trisquel 9 once it is released. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing trisquel mini/ usb fails to auto boot
ty brother i was doing a mistake by writing the iso image in the partition name (sdx1) and not the device (sdx)
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s
Yes I think I should at least install Libreboot then see some things so I have been trying to install on the x60s but it is difficult. Or rather, maybe it is not difficult, as you say, >Using guides are good, but sometimes outdated, or some critical parts aren't explained well, This is only my feelings but it seems that I cannot think nothing but they have no intention to share the method straight. It seems that "education" might be the pretext, but it causes the doubt that that "There might be some inconvenience to teach or share the information". Isn't it natural? As I wrote here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-do-you-computer-experts-think-about-computer-education-high-school Frankly there is perfectly no reason that average users become willing users of this kind of stuff, like the Serbian English teacher. Or rather, they have bad feelings for this kind of stuff. They are rejecting. Should I show an example what I am having trouble with. Why paste a link in the instruction pages? What is cd? dd? 2. From the libreboot_bin or libreboot_util/ directory?? Why despite it can be done internally, cannot I do that one or two clicks? I appreciate that there are so-called libre stuff. I have read an article that Libreboot has an intention to let even normal users install coreboot easily so this would be the easist way, it must be my childish complaint, but absolutely the English teacher would not be willing to do it. That means almost 100% people will never flash bios of their devices by themselves. If we know what we will get from flashing it but I am not still sure what I will get. Ahh I am saying the same thing again... I hope the nadebula's documents will be great stuff that like "This is great, I don't need other documents to do ***..." but I have a question if there is necessity to do it now. Because... how many years went past since... is my current frank feelings. Or rather I have been having the feelings... zzz... If you sold x60 for $200 including everthing, I would buy it. Should I also start Libreshop in Japan.
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s
I already have the feeling that you are trying to do most of the things by yourself, which is great. But don't give up. If you fail 10 times, try 11th time, with the hope of succeeding, which is helping a lot. Using guides are good, but sometimes outdated, or some critical parts aren't explained well, if you have 2 x60s, if you have the time to spend, try using one as your testing device, and try whatever test you can imaging, if you follow a guide, try to change some steps in that guide which feels convenient. for example, Guide: run this command with this parameters You: run this command with other parameters and see what is happening, ah I crashed it, so I start over with some other parameters, ...
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s
It took almost two years since I thought "What is GNU/Linux.". I got to know Thinkpads have many fans and parts and data. I am going to keep using GNU/Linux but this is really my weak subject. When I was a kid, there was a popular toy which name was Mini 4WD. It was a car toy and we had to assemble it from a kit. The toy just runs straight with no controller. I think it was quite simple structure but my Mini 4WD did not run. The sadness was engraved in my memory. Looking back, it was RR or midship, not 4WD. Also I have written Basic when I was a kid. There was a famous FC game which name was Dragon Quest (maybe it was called Dragon Worrier abroad) and the chief developer Yuji Horii wrote a book of Basic. I entered commands on the black screen of PC-8800 or something according to his instruction like 10... 20... you can add other order later between 10 and 20... oh I see... bla bla bla but nothing happened. I have not much conviction for this kind of stuff. Maybe I have not much tolerance to this kind of frustration. But thank you. I will try.
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s
> My community friends and I have been preparing some beginner's documents. I hope you'll share them here when they're ready. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s
Hopefully you don't have to return to "use" Windows. I do appreciate your progress in trying to install a free/libre operating system distribution by yourself. You have also shown the willingness to study, which is invaluable. That you purchased X60s to install Trisquel is an excellent starting point. So keep studying and don't give up. Now you can try to improve your hardware DIY capability using the X60s machine. Buy a set of nice tools (mainly screwdrivers) and search for the Hardware Maintenance Manual for your machine. Practice until you can skillfully disassemble and re-assemble it and replace damaged parts. My community friends and I have been preparing some beginner's documents. We hope you were still using GNU/Linux when we finish them in the near future.
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s
Thank you. But please don't comfort me. You simply lost me in Trisquel users and General Free Software Talk. Less lots trackers is not bad. Very comfortable. They also would be released from tracking except some devices. I might have to use Windows again someday though.
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s
Thank you. probably you are right. I changed the password using only alphanumeric characters and it is not denied now. And yes it was very hot. I was surprised how hot it was. Now it doesn't freeze. I was thinking that someone was preventing me from installing it but it might have been my paranoia. Do you always check that MD5 or SHA256 or GPG every time you download something? When I downloaded Tails, its number of MD5 or SHA256 was different. But I didn't know what I should do so I kept using the iso image. I think there was no problem. Anyway Ubuntu and Tails or other distros took around 15-20 minitus to boot, but Trisquel boots within one minute so it is very good. The fun was very clean somehow.
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing Trisquel 8 and mini fail on x60s
> At while the first installation, it did not freeze so I was able to > install it on SSD. But after the installation, on the login page (at > the center of the page, there are a text box and Trisquel logo > [photo2]) I entered the password but the password was denied. I just searched for "cryptsetup fails bad password or options" and it seems that the most common issue is that the user unknowingly has CapsLk on. However, I see one case where the presence of a backslash in the password might have been the cause.[1] If so, the problem may be inconsistent character encoding, in which case non-ascii characters could be a problem as well. You could confirm this by testing with a password using only ascii alphanumeric characters. How important is full disk encryption to you? (Are you worried about physical theft of this machine?) If it doesn't matter, the simplest thing might be to deselect LVM in the installer and avoid this issue entirely. > So I downloaded Trisquel mini in the same way to install it on the > SSD. I booted it from USB and chose "Try Trusquel without > installing", every time anyway usually desktop appeared, but after > several tens seconds, it freezed, then finally it started to freeze > after a few seconds every time. Then I tried to reinstall Trisquel 8 > (not mini) again from the "Try Trisquel without installing" but the > same phenomenon (freezing immediately) started to happen with it too. > So I cannot reinstall it on SSD neither. So the freezing happens sooner every time? It's possible that the laptop is overheating. What happens if you give the laptop some time to cool down before trying again? Does the freezing take longer? When I installed Trisquel 7 on my X60, I had the exact same issue with freezing before I could make it through the installation process, and found that the freezing always occurred when the laptop was hot. Cleaning the fan[2] couldn't hurt. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/2jhxqk/cryptsetup_failed_bad_password_or_options_after/ [2] https://invidio.us/watch?v=09XxTukin08 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel Mini to Asus eeePC 701 4G ?
With Xbindkeys I was able to solve the audio hotkey problem. First I had to install it: sudo apt-get install xbindkeys then run the command it suggests: xbindkeys --defaults > $HOME/.xbindkeysrc After this edit the file: sudo leafpad $HOME/.xbindkeysrc then insert these to that file: # Increase volume "pactl set-sink-volume @DEFAULT_SINK@ +1000" XF86AudioRaiseVolume # Decrease volume "pactl set-sink-volume @DEFAULT_SINK@ -1000" XF86AudioLowerVolume # Mute volume "pactl set-sink-mute @DEFAULT_SINK@ toggle" XF86AudioMute then enable settings and test them: xbindkeys --poll-rc Finally after all is good make xbindbeys start automatically by editing this file: sudo leafpad /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc by adding: xbindkeys
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel Mini to Asus eeePC 701 4G ?
Take a look at 'xbindkeys', 'xev' and 'amixer'. You should be able to work something out.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel Mini to Asus eeePC 701 4G ?
Thanks, that method worked and the OS is now installed. Any idea about the hotkeys for volume? With acpi_listen command I get: hotkey ASUS010:00 0013 button/mute MUTE 0080 K hotkey ASUS010:00 0014 0004 button/volumedown VOLDN 0080 K hotkey ASUS010:00 0015 0003 button/volumeup VOLUP 0080 K but volume is not adjusted.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel Mini to Asus eeePC 701 4G ?
Connect an external HDD to bypass the limit. When installing, choose the internal storage and the installer will let you proceed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on EFI
Looks like you have to save all your /home and, from instalation, click in /dev/sda (no sda1/sda2) and "create a new partition tab". I think is the only way but I'm not sure. https://www.reddit.com/r/trisquel/comments/actybl/software_livre_ptbr/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on EFI
Once I had one Acer ultrabook with mSATA and SATA drives. The "legacy" mode boot list didn't contain the mSATA option, so if I wished to boot from the mSATA SSD, I had to use UEFI mode (the ESP can be on either SSD or HDD). I believe what you described was something similar: restrictions by the firmware. (Maybe the manufacturer didn't want users to install operating systems using legacy mode.) Unfortunately, starting Haswell, Intel implemented one treacherous "feature": Boot Guard. It is impossible to fix the broken-beyond-repair non-free firmware with this anti-feature present. What I can suggest is to try the latest Debian (testing) Installer and perform a minimalist installation. See whether you can boot it from UEFI mode. Use the "Alpha 3" release of Debian Installer. I tested it on many UEFI systems. (Note: Debian does have certain non-free firmware on its mirror servers. Avoid adding the "contrib" or "non-free" repositories and you can have a free/libre system.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel from USB Hard Drive
It has been installed now. I had to enable CSM in BIOS to make it work.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel from USB Hard Drive
Did you selected the hard drive from the computer on the BIOS priority? Does your BIOS has any locker? I once installed gnu/linux on a laptop that had this extra option that made the boot priority ineffective. Could you look at that?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel from USB Hard Drive
I tried shutting down the computer and removing USB before powering it on and I get this message: "Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key".
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel from USB Hard Drive
What you must do now is shutdown your computer (not reboot), remove the USB storage, and power on again. However, this method is rather incomplete, because if you put any other USB storage while starting/power on, your computer will probably complain if the USB storage isn't bootable. For a complete method, see the next paragraph. As a more advanced alternative: Instead of removing USB storage, make sure that your computer's BIOS/UEFI has the local drives set first/in high priority than the USB storage. -- - [[https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno]] - Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com gratis). - "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre, por isso não uso. Iguais a ele prefiro GNU Ring, ou Tox. Quer outras formas de contato? Adicione o vCard que está no endereço acima aos teus contatos. - Pretende me enviar arquivos .doc, .ppt, .cdr, ou .mp3? OK, eu aceito, mas não repasso. Entrego apenas em formatos favoráveis ao /software/ livre. Favor entrar em contato em caso de dúvida.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
The Libre Tea Card is a little difficult though considering the fact that it is a rolling release. But yeah... you are right eoma68 isn't a product it is a standard which those devices control. LTCC as you call it is not for beginners though. My best guess is persay The Practically Perfect or the Numero Uno... (but do not enable the nonfree software repo and use linux libre!) So really until trisquel supports arm I should just say, use libreboot! The X200 is awesome for that purpose especially with 9 cell battery. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
Just remember that "EOMA68" isn't our recommendation, per see, that link that was given, without explanation, unfortunatelly causes this confusion, so I must clarify what was the intention: As a matter of fact "EOMA68" isn't even a product, it's a standard. That said: That link has a list of products, some of them have "Computer Card" in their names, for these, pick only one choice: Libre Tea Computer Card (LTCC for short). LTCC is the only one that we can recommend.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
Yep for the time being it is a good laptop. In the future I am thinking about eoma68. But I don't quite think its the right time now for me... that's all.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
Thanks for all the suggestions I've been looking at them in depth. I'll probably just get the wifi adapter for now since they're relatively cheap and then keep doing research on the laptops so that I can buy one once I feel more comfortable with my decision. Overall are you pretty satisfied with your laptop?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
Something like this... https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop or if you want one sooner, then... the below two links https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-hardware/x200-ryf-certfied https://tehnoetic.com/laptops or get this item for your laptop. https://tehnoetic.com/adapters/tet-n300
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
He means something like this. ThinkPenguin also has them. Both sites have more Wi-Fi adapters than the two I linked to.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
Ok what would you suggest that is more free software friendly for the future? Do you mean one of the laptops on technoetic or thinkpenguin or getting a new wifi card and/or driver? I'd like to explore other options now if it'll save time and money in the long run. I can get by without my laptop for a little bit so I don't necessarily need the fastest solution available.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
... I hate to say this but I have a strong feeling your wifi card needs a non-free driver. I obviously don't recommend you using it, so yeah, the link I gave you is your best bet if you want to be extra secure. in the future though, I do suggest getting something more free software friendly though. ask around here and you can get some ideas for the future. but as for right now the tehnoetic wifi adapter is the safest way to do it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
I have a HP Envy 15 X360 PC. Thank you for the suggestion I'll check that out.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
It was just the font that messed me up. Little embarrassing that I didn't try that but thank you.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
>I read in another forum topic that typing in Ispci -v into the terminal will give you the results of your wifi card but that command isn't working for me. Just to clarify, the lspci command starts with L as in lovely, not I as in iceberg. Some fonts are annoying that way. I'm glad things are going well for you. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
hmm.. this is one sure fire way I believe... https://tehnoetic.com/tet-n300 but, it depends on your wifi card so tell me, what kind of laptop is it, lenovo hp, dell, and what model type? example lenovo t420 which I used to have.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
Thank you! That worked for me. I've been trying to organize some files and adjust the settings to my preferences now. Only other problem I've ran into is I can't connect to the internet. It gives the option to add connections but not to actually connect to the network. I read in another forum topic that typing in Ispci -v into the terminal will give you the results of your wifi card but that command isn't working for me. I believe this is supposed to determine if my wifi card is compatible with the free software or if I should order a new one from thinkpenguin.com from the forum I was reading earlier. Any suggestions for connecting to wifi?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
Thank you! That worked for me. I've been trying to organize some files and adjust the settings to my preferences now. Only other problem I've ran into is I can't connect to the internet. It gives the option to add connections but not to actually connect to the network. I read in another forum topic that typing in Ispci -v into the terminal will give you the results of your wifi card but that command isn't working for me. I believe this is supposed to determine if my wifi card is compatible with the free software or if I should order a new one from thinkpenguin.com from the forum I was reading earlier. The name of that forum was "How to connect to wifi." Any suggestions for connecting to wifi?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
You need to disable secure boot. I don't know if this is any different from windows 8, but this link may be accurate. https://itsfoss.com/disable-uefi-secure-boot-in-windows-8/ If anyone else has advice, please do comment to help.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
I made a bootable USB stick following the instructions in the link you sent me and now I'm using advanced startup in the windows settings to restart my computer from a device or disc. I'm having trouble booting from the USB stick though. After restarting the computer and I'm in Boot Manager, I hit enter while hovered over USB Hard Drive (UEFI) - SanDisk to only get a blue window with a black screen behind it that says, "Selected boot image did not Authenticate. Press to Continue." The same thing happens when I try Boot From EFI File. Is there something I should adjust in BIOS Setup Options by pressing F10 in Boot Manager? Thanks!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
JB One of the links on that Trisquel Wiki page such as http://infrarecorder.org/ , this software has not been updated since 2012 you may prefer https://unetbootin.github.io/ for Windows Please read about UEFI at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI before Some Trisquel 7 screenshot/Install guides : https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/installation-de-trisquel-une-interface-graphique https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/installation-de-trisquel-avec-lvm-chiffré-en-mode-texte
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
Thank you for the welcome! Sorry I haven't replied sooner, I've been away from home lately. Yes I'm trying to install Trisquel from a folder on my windows installation. I'll try making a bootable USB stick with that link you sent me. I'll let you know if I could use some more help after that. Thanks again!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
dd for windows: http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
>Can you even do dd in Windows? Honestly, I have no idea, Heather. In my 20 years experience with Windows I haven't even managed to learn something as simple and useful. That's how a dumb OS succeeds in keeping you a dumb user, or more correctly a subjugated used. >lefty loosey, righty tighty :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
Can you even do dd in Windows? In retrospect, my reluctance to use that command was an irrational fear and life is going to be so much easier now that I've confronted and conquered it. "if for input, of for output" isn't harder to remember than "lefty loosey, righty tighty" but you don't see us "average joe/josephine" users running away in horror at the thought of using a screwdriver, do you? The mind is a funny thing.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
>rufus is another program for doing so. Yes, rufus is very good for the job if you are doing it inside Winnn
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
You must burn the iso to a usb drive or a cd or dvd. https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows this is one way you can do it. though it is on a ubuntu site... heh. don't fret though, I been down this path before, it gets easier as time passes. That's been my experience for sure. rufus is another program for doing so. and finally there is this http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download if you figure out how to burn the iso to a usb or cd we can help you with the next step. though I am sure if I was able to figure it out, I am sure you can too.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
You don't open the ISO, you "burn" it to a USB drive (or CD or DVD): https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-create-liveusb
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
I agree with Heather, You are trying to install while in Windows and I would have no idea where to begin doing that but if you have shrunk the C drive in Windows; and successfully burned a Trisquel iso DVD; and have your BIOS settings set to allow you to boot from DVD drive, then you should be able to reboot into the OS on your DVD and go from there.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel to replace Windows 10
I'll give it a try, anyway. I haven't used Windows since XP was the newest hottest thing, but let's start with the basics: It looks from your post as if you are trying to install Trisquel from a folder on your windows installation, is this correct? It isn't impossible to do it that way, if I understand the term "debootstrap" correctly, but that isn't what folks like you and me need to be spending our time doing. You have downloaded the .iso file that has everything you need to install Trisquel and now you need to either burn it to a DVD: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/burn-trisquel-cd-images or make a bootable USB stick: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-create-liveusb You may have to go into BIOS/UEFI before it will boot to your install medium so let me know if you run into any problems and I'll see if I can help. I like the way you think wrt replacing Windows 10 altogether. :) Welcome to Trisquel!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
Just a piece of advice, make sure to use a thick vinyl sticker as normal ones will just show the Apple logo shinning through. I have a Copyleft over mine but I needed 4 layers to dull the logo significantly.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
Coreboot uses blobs on some systems, I wonder if that's the case here or not. Hence libreboot.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
AbishekSDK, check this out: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Coreboot-SNB-MacBook-Air
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
I write Android programs quite a bit (school forces us to- apparently mobile development is the trendy new thing) and have experienced no problems using OpenJDK as opposed to Oracle. They recommend Oracle, but Open seems to work fine- except when it comes to things which need to be jarsigned.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
Ha-ha. Covering that Apple logo with a GNU sticker is first on my list. I will give Trisquel a go. Also, I am an android developer. Has anybody used Android studio and have you faced any problems with using openjdk and not the proprietary oracle jdk?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
I haven't, but you might be interested in getting Replicant's SDK instead of Android's: http://www.replicant.us/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
Had problems with 2009 air, with GeForce 9400. If it uses Intel gpu, so, the only problem can be to replace proprietary connector/wire to Broadcomm wifi adapter inside.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
Where to buy GNU, FSF stickers??
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http://shop.fsf.org/product/super-sticker-mega-multi-pack/ https://shop.libiquity.com/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
Here http://shop.fsf.org/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
If you can print your own, Koz and I made this sticker specifically for Macbooks: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adesivo_GNU.svg
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
Thanks! I will try to print it with my printer, but only when I unlock the counter chip. So, no time right now to reset the counter.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel on a MacBook Air.
Make sure you cover that Apple logo with a nice GNU sticker :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.
Thanks a million for bringing GRUB to light!. Regards! I ll try!.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.
I installed Debian 8 on a USB stick when it came out in May and if I remember correctly at the end of the installation it asked me if I wanted to install grub so, not being sure I clicked "no" and that resulted in an unbootable Debian stick.. So I reinstalled and answered "yes" to "install grub" and was asked to choose the hard disk on which to install it (either my lappy hard drive or the USB stick itself - I selected my hard drive and that way the grub on my hard drive just got updated with the entry for booting Debian from the USB.. cheers
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.
I don't think so. GRUB only needs to be installed on the master boot record of the first hard drive (or whatever media you have decided to set as the boot media- this is usually /dev/sda or something of that sort), and (if configured correctly) it will be able to boot into any installed operating system on any other media, handing control over to it. Try installing Ututo on the second hard drive- it will probably have options related to dual-boot/disk partitioning in the installer, and will (hopefully) work out of the box, probably setting up its own grub.cfg. If GRUB doesn't recognise, you can always rectify the situation by chrooting into the second drive from the first, so you should be able to get it to work one way or another. Give it a go, and tell us what happens.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.
Hey folks it is Ututo what I want to try not gentoo, what a mistake!: gentoo is not on the fsf list!. but anyway the question will apply to any other linux distro to check on a new drive. the new distro requires installation of grub on its drive?.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.
thanks a million to those who could help me!. Regards
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.
I always have huge doubts regarding the quality/extensiveness of the effects of "100% free" settings on non-free distros: What guarantee me that they go as far as Trisquel and parabola with packages content? I guess that they use the ebuild LICENSE, but will using the "deblob" USE flag change iceweasel in iceweasel-libre, blacklist non-free dependencies and ajust the other USE flags accordingly, and prevent the suggestion of non-free programs, including in the manuals? both require patching the programs. I personally fear two things: -> Be mislead and install non-free software without knowing that it's non-free, that's why I need the suggestion issue fixed on all the repos I use. I don't know all software well so I very strongly prefer to trust the distro to do it correctly instead. Suggestion is so vague that it could also be in form of a package manager (firefox, iceweasel) or as a dialog "would you want to download " with some cryptic language. -> That part of a package is non-free. That said Gentoo seem very interesting. I am very attracted by the possibilities of customization, but I probably don't have the computing power to use it, and I'm waiting for a free version to give a try again. The downside is that, "verifiable builds" wound probably not come any time soon due to the huge number of possible combinations when building gentoo. Denis.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
No. I only ever use Windows if it's on someone else's computer, to freeze Python code. What's with the picture?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
Question:
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
don't you find it funny - like super real funny?
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Not really, I don't get it. It looks like the guy in the picture is angry about something or about to shoot someone for some other reason, but why would you be angry about other people running proprietary programs on their computers?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
i dont
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yay
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
I rather think you have listening problems. you mean reading problems :P
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
In case you haven't quite solved the problem yet: BOOT TO TRISQUEL, PERFORM sudo rm /etc/grub.d/01_PASSWORD sudo update-grub AND ALL SHOULD BE WELL, FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING MURRAY WALKER BACK INTO COMMENTATING. Otherwise, I don't quite understand what you mean by your post. Especially life, the world and Money part.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
I think that GNU/Freesoftware is extraordinary ok. You are right!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
OK. Have you still got the Trisquel+2 Windows setup you had when you posted the thread's 1st post? If so, don't change anything. Stop dealing with the mount thingies, or trying to change the bootloader since you don't need to. Go to Trisquel, open the Terminal, and copy-and-paste the following: sudo rm /etc/grub.d/01_PASSWORD sudo update-grub Only if that doesn't work should you try anything else. Full stop.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
So, it's a known problem?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
Still, hm, this is what I did: I had xp and 7 installed, Tried to install Trisquel from USB Used option: other/ make own partitionsnot install alongside 7. I choose mount at / not /bootor any of the other options in that drop down menu. After that Grub failed. All options in the menu failed except start Trisquel. This was the only option not asking for a user and pass. 7 boot menu, advanced options, edit menu all other options did ask for a user and pass and after pressing enter the only thing happening was that the bootmenu was displayed. So, you say it wasn't my choice of / as a mount? I have no idea what else it could be. Always when I install Linux I can't boot Windows afterwards. Do you know a bootmanager that will find all OS present and put them in a menu to boot? Or do you know where to find a clear instruction on how to manually operate Grub to add any operating system present?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
I think that GNU/Freesoftware is extraordinary ok. But it has compatibillity problems with the whole of the system. I don't mean a computer, but life, the world. Maybe this can be an initiative that gets people to think and the rest of the system will also be made more like that. I mean a number of very important principles of it. But anyway, how is e.g. money now? Does some sort of at least possible amout of money come in?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
if you must have windows another option is to use a external hard-drive or usb stick to run trisquel and then keep the windows install on your hdd and then you just boot to the harddrive whenever you use windows
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
Thank you for your responses so far. Yes, you are right, I notice it too. It does that sort of thing deliberately. But I don't destroy a possession of mine, why it isn't evil and commonly used too. I think the manufacturer should be sued for this. Personally I wouldn't do this alone at this time but would find others for it first. Possibly that company would be undone of all profit it has ever made. Possibly a big debt and not even breaking even with the costs it had so far. I'm serious. If I choose the option: Install alongside Windows 7, where will it get harddisk space? Something was about that, that is why I ask. To keep this post simple, not too complicated I only ask where it gets harddisk space. If you are interested and ask I will say too why this is important.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
I only ask where it gets harddisk space. If you are interested and ask I will say too why this is important. if you installed them along side each other then you could chose how much space each of them get from the hardrive
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
So what are the basic steps to install W7, XP and Trisquel without a problem with Grub that usually causes a boot problem. Windows versions are no longer available.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
I don't think I should do this. There must be a simple reason that blocks it from functioning well. Do you know anything about mounting? ''/ '' or ''/boot''? How influences it if Trisquel will boot?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
Hi, I'm going to have a look at it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
Mounting is something like making a folder take you to a specified partition when entered. I think it's got nothing to do with your problem. I think you should take a look at https://trisquel.info/en/forum/strange-grub-behaviour-trisquel-7#comment-57418 It basically amounts to removing or commenting all the lines in the file /etc/grub.d/01_PASSWORD , and then running the command update-grub. Commenting is adding a # at the beginning of a line, and makes the computer treat that line as nothing more than a comment (i.e. The computer skips it and it's only there for humans to read it, not the computer).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/strange-grub-behaviour-trisquel-7#comment-57418
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
So basically, I want to have XP, windows 7 and Trisquel on my pc. I think it is wiser to focus on how that is done basically. Information XP and w7 were already installed when I installed Trisquel. I couldn't have used the wrong username and password. I tried the one I made during install. I couldn't have used the wrong name/ password. I tried all other combinations as well: the name (Trisquel asks for a name and a username), and I tried the old username and password from the portable usb install. (to try this os). Normally in similar cases elsewhere it won't make a difference. And trying something like that is really somewhat dangerous. Approaching it this way causes a very heavy weight on me. XP and w7 are 32 bit. Trisquel is 64 bit. I want to install this exact combination. --- I think the solution is knowing how to install xp, w7 and trisquel on the same system. Does anyone know a tutorial about that? Or can outline the steps? I mean very short and basic, and possibly a question about the outline.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
Based on my understanding you've already got Trisquel and the 2 Windows versions installed, so that's actually out of the way already. Now, on to the problem: The password problem. Is the password problem experienced in GRUB (In which case it's not supposed to be there, and is not what you set when installing Trisquel)? If so, does the solution I suggested in my post (the one with a screenshot of the solution I was referring to) work?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7
Ok, I'm looking at that new link. Long story short, after using my xp experience edition cd, xp was back (It's probably a GNU/Linux legal version of xp, everything else is ripped out, starts with approx. 100mb RAM. Windows 7 as well, the RAM-lock is removed by the Unawave program, and some other things downloaded it from torrent, somehow couldn't find it from the site). Mistake with 7 cd/// doesn't matter/// in xp I deleted Trisquel and made a new swap partition. I'm going to look at that link now. What I should know is, I think what the basic steps are to install Trisquel on a system with 7 and xp as well. How is this: 1. xp 2. Trisquel - installs grub too 3. 7 4. use a boot program to recover boot. After recovery Grub is the boot manager. Boot program: Boot-repair-disk? http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/ I tried it already but it didn't work. It offers to send a report to an emailaddress and a reply. I haven't done that yet I think I should.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel 7 on HP DV 5000 (many issues?)
You can't do it by just changing the sources. The proper way to do it is: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sudo do-release-upgrade -d But it might be difficult to recover your system now.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel 7 on HP DV 5000 (many issues?)
I'm curious what graphics chip you have in your system... I'm thinking this might have something to do with 3d accelerated graphics support in 7 that didn't exist in 6, but doesn't actually work for you in 7. Disabling the driver might solve the problem.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel 7 on HP DV 5000 (many issues?)
Thanks Chris. It's an Nvidia GeForce Go 6150.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel 7 on HP DV 5000 (many issues?)
Please note that this is largely off the top of my head and I didn't test this thoroughly... That said to install do the following: 1. During boot hold down the left shift key to get the GRUB boot menu to show 2. Press the 'e' key to edit the boot parameters. Using the cursor keys of your keyboard scroll down to the line that starts with linux and go to the end of that line. 3. Add the boot parameters nomodeset xforcevesa without the quotes. As you type, it will wrap to the next line on the screen and show a backslash character at the end of the previous line. That's fine. Press Ctrl+X or F10 to continue to boot. After installing it the system won't boot, but you can use a live cd with chroot to fix this. Use the above directions to boot from the Trisquel live cd again. Then from the live CD open a terminal and run: sudo mkdir -p /mnt/chroot Then mount the partition you installed Trisquel to: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/chroot Next we need to bind hardware with new chroot environment. The next commands will make sure that connected hardware works otherwise update-grub may not function properly. Run: sudo mount -o bind /proc /mnt/chroot/proc sudo mount -o bind /proc /mnt/chroot/dev Now enter the chroot environment: sudo chroot /mnt/chroot Assuming your not booting in UEFI mode you can put nomodeset xforcevesa into /etc/default/grub. To open the file for editing, run: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub locate the following line and put xforcevesa between the quotes: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=nomodeset xforcevesa save and exit when done, then run the following for the change to take effect: sudo update-grub If everything worked right you should be able to reboot now and the system will boot without the 3d aceelerated graphics driver. In theory that is probably what is causing the problem between the two releases. If anybody else has another idea as to what might be causing the problem speak up!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel 7 on HP DV 5000 (many issues?)
I wanted to re-install 6 before answering just to be sure but that wasn't working either. It said no new release found. Is that because 7 isn't official yet?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel 7 on HP DV 5000 (many issues?)
That's how you upgrade to a newer development release in Ubuntu, so I thought it would work in Trisquel. I never tested it though.
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing trisquel from ubuntu?
It's probabaly easiest just to install Trisquel Mini, without switching. It is much easier than it sounds, unless your laptop requires non-free drivers. There are variosu utilities on the disk that make installing it very easy
Re: [Trisquel-users] installing trisquel from ubuntu?
cant boot from cd, neither from usb While I guess it is possible that an old computer couldn't boot from either, have you looked at the BIOS setup? It might be possible to change the boot order so that USB or CD would be before HDD.