[twitter-dev] Re: Matt Sanford, signing off.
Good luck, thanks for the help on the list. On Jul 17, 10:49 pm, Karthik Murugan fermis...@gmail.com wrote: Good Luck Matt!! On Jul 18, 2:18 am, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote: Hi everybody*, Starting next week I'm not going to be responding to mails on the dev list or working on Google Code issues as part of my daily work. I have been working on the Search and API/Platform teams here at Twitter since the acquisition of Summize a year ago and the time has come for a change. I'm leaving both teams to take on the role of technical lead for the new Twitter internationalization team. Anybody who's gotten me talking about language detection or language-specifics (especially in person) knows this is something I have a personal interest in. The other team member are going to continue to keep an eye on the dev list and the Google Code issues. As always you can email a...@twitter.com directly if you need something. I'll continue working on the Google Code issues assigned to me or in some cases someone will take them over next week. I mostly felt like I should send you all a good bye since you're considered an extension of the API/Platform team. This change should be fully backward compatible so I didn't see the need for 7-days notice. Good night, and good luck; – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford Twitter Dev * = Who just said Hi, Dr. Nick. out loud? Your cube neighbor thinks you're crazy.
[twitter-dev] Re: Matt Sanford, signing off.
Congrats Matt. Hope you have a lot of fun on the new team. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Philip Plante pplante@gmail.comwrote: Good luck, thanks for the help on the list. On Jul 17, 10:49 pm, Karthik Murugan fermis...@gmail.com wrote: Good Luck Matt!! On Jul 18, 2:18 am, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote: Hi everybody*, Starting next week I'm not going to be responding to mails on the dev list or working on Google Code issues as part of my daily work. I have been working on the Search and API/Platform teams here at Twitter since the acquisition of Summize a year ago and the time has come for a change. I'm leaving both teams to take on the role of technical lead for the new Twitter internationalization team. Anybody who's gotten me talking about language detection or language-specifics (especially in person) knows this is something I have a personal interest in. The other team member are going to continue to keep an eye on the dev list and the Google Code issues. As always you can email a...@twitter.com directly if you need something. I'll continue working on the Google Code issues assigned to me or in some cases someone will take them over next week. I mostly felt like I should send you all a good bye since you're considered an extension of the API/Platform team. This change should be fully backward compatible so I didn't see the need for 7-days notice. Good night, and good luck; – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford Twitter Dev * = Who just said Hi, Dr. Nick. out loud? Your cube neighbor thinks you're crazy. -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Too many requests in this time period. Try again later.
I asked the same thing of Alex - waiting to hear back. This method is still very useful for verifying users haven't changed their passwords since the last time the script was run. Also, in Alex's own words, OAuth isn't ready for production yet, last I heard so probably shouldn't go that route either (or is it?). Jesse On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:37 AM, J.D. jeremy.d.mul...@gmail.com wrote: I can see why this api should be limited, but it seems (from the outside, I'm sure maybe there are other reasons) like if the credentials are correct, it shouldn't count against the limit. Only limit if the attempts are bad (someone is fishing). J.D.
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter is not making money
On Jul 16, 1:14 pm, Stuart stut...@gmail.com wrote: Twitter have a business plan, we're just not worthy enough to know all the details. What we know so far is that they're planning to launch a premium account type with a bunch of tools to aid brand and engagement tracking. I've got news for you ... Twitter itself is woefully behind the curve on monitoring / marketing / analytics technologies. Third parties are springing up daily with offerings in this area, many of them involving cutting-edge natural language processing. Twitter could obviously invest in these areas, but I'm not sure why they would, rather than focusing on stability, scalability and security of the underlying platform and messaging systems. Perhaps one way to monetize Twitter would be to implement a per- follower charge, say, free up to 2000 followers, then a small monthly fee up to 10,000, a larger fee up to 100,000 and so on. I haven't seen follower count distribution data recently, but I'd say that people with more than 2000 followers are rare and are probably using Twitter as a push marketing / sales platform in some sense. Of course, I'm at around 3500 followers at the moment, so I would be paying a monthly fee and would need to justify it as a business expense (or block about 1500 people, which isn't out of the question) ;-)
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter is not making money
Show me these killer companies doing great NLP with social networks. I find the ones that are doing stuff right now themselves are far behind the curve and not really pushing stuff to the edge. They are often marketing companies that have hired one NLP guy (and underpaid them) and are just pushing the marketing side. I have yet to see anything truly revolutionary come from most of these monitoring companies yet and they are all too narrow focused. Plus, none of them have the VC funding to really expand and grow (and not many people are getting new funding these days) -David On Jul 18, 3:29 am, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zzn...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 16, 1:14 pm, Stuart stut...@gmail.com wrote: Twitter have a business plan, we're just not worthy enough to know all the details. What we know so far is that they're planning to launch a premium account type with a bunch of tools to aid brand and engagement tracking. I've got news for you ... Twitter itself is woefully behind the curve on monitoring / marketing / analytics technologies. Third parties are springing up daily with offerings in this area, many of them involving cutting-edge natural language processing. Twitter could obviously invest in these areas, but I'm not sure why they would, rather than focusing on stability, scalability and security of the underlying platform and messaging systems. Perhaps one way to monetize Twitter would be to implement a per- follower charge, say, free up to 2000 followers, then a small monthly fee up to 10,000, a larger fee up to 100,000 and so on. I haven't seen follower count distribution data recently, but I'd say that people with more than 2000 followers are rare and are probably using Twitter as a push marketing / sales platform in some sense. Of course, I'm at around 3500 followers at the moment, so I would be paying a monthly fee and would need to justify it as a business expense (or block about 1500 people, which isn't out of the question) ;-)
[twitter-dev] Re: Too many requests in this time period. Try again later.
This is occurring with OAuth as well. verify_credentials is now being limited to 15 calls/hour. I really wish they had informed us in advance, at least not a day before weekend. On Jul 18, 11:07 am, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: I asked the same thing of Alex - waiting to hear back. This method is still very useful for verifying users haven't changed their passwords since the last time the script was run. Also, in Alex's own words, OAuth isn't ready for production yet, last I heard so probably shouldn't go that route either (or is it?). Jesse On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:37 AM, J.D. jeremy.d.mul...@gmail.com wrote: I can see why this api should be limited, but it seems (from the outside, I'm sure maybe there are other reasons) like if the credentials are correct, it shouldn't count against the limit. Only limit if the attempts are bad (someone is fishing). J.D.
[twitter-dev] status ping?
What's the best/lowest impact fashion of polling Twitter for status if you're not already performing an operation? Does the help/test method work (well) for this? Looking to poll once every five minutes or so, hopefully without burning countable API hits. Thanks- - Andy Badera - and...@badera.us - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
[twitter-dev] # and $ symbols
Hi guys, Wondering if Twitter API supports search for hashtags (#) and stock symbols ($)?? I did something like this: http://search.twitter.com/search.json?q=%23username+OR+$$username and it returned tweets that don't contain any # or $ symbol. I tried to search for microsoft and I could find some tweets contain #microsoft or $microsoft...but not always. Would there be any better way to cope this? Thx.
[twitter-dev] Re: status ping?
2009/7/18 Andrew Badera and...@badera.us: What's the best/lowest impact fashion of polling Twitter for status if you're not already performing an operation? Does the help/test method work (well) for this? Looking to poll once every five minutes or so, hopefully without burning countable API hits. Lowest impact as far as API hits go is to use the search API, but you're then at the mercy of any delays or filtering between the main system and the search data. -Stuart -- http://stut.net/projects/twitter/
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter is not making money
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:49 AM, David Fisher tib...@gmail.com wrote: Show me these killer companies doing great NLP with social networks. I find the ones that are doing stuff right now themselves are far behind the curve and not really pushing stuff to the edge. They are often marketing companies that have hired one NLP guy (and underpaid them) and are just pushing the marketing side. I have yet to see anything truly revolutionary come from most of these monitoring companies yet and they are all too narrow focused. Plus, none of them have the VC funding to really expand and grow (and not many people are getting new funding these days) Who says that a company has to create something truly revolutionary to be successful? There are plenty of big successes that got where they are by packaging and distributing better than anyone else, not with great breakthroughs. Heard of Microsoft? Sentiment analysis, like everything else that depends on computers figuring out language, isn't great. Nor is anyone really close to writing software that comes understands language with context, nuance, etc. Language isn't even well understood enough for anyone to write code to emulate it; it is at the core of human intelligence. Language in 140 character chunks is *really* hard. If you think there are no well-funded, successful companies in this domain, take a look at Nielsen/Buzzmetrics. They've been at this for more than 10 years. They acquired my patents, from a startup where we demonstrated basic sentiment analysis in 2000 and 2001, showing that our software could rate the sentiment of Usenet movie reviews with 80 percent accuracy and forecast box office. I would love to see more people tackling this kind of problem, but nobody is likely to succeed if they don't realize what has worked and what hasn't over the last decade and more. Intelligence agencies and law enforcement have used relevant techniques for 20-30 years. For example, traffic analysis is fundamental and doesn't require any NLP, just as the NSA is able to identify command and control centers by their behavior without having to decode a single encrypted transmission. The danger of focusing on NLP and other really hard problems is that you fail to apply known techniques in new ways. Having said all that, I'll add that a lot of what I saw over the last few years in social media analytics was pretty eye candy without much behind it. If that's all you look at, then yes, it seems quite shallow. But I would hope that serious developers know that that's not all there is. The systems I've built over the last decade have been based first on traffic analysis, then social network analysis, and last, text/lingustic analysis... and to do the latter well, humans were involved in the final summarization of topics, trends and so forth. Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Filter Profanity
why is it proving hard for me beta test with
https://www.linkedin.com/secure/addContacts
Youknow, iam huge advocate of getting traffic via our affiliate
program, and afterseeing what Marlon Sanders , Yanik Silver and my
other friends are doing : i thought to should have put up a test
Wheather;
our main concern is about the mind power among atraffic ,
visitors,leads, and mails sent .
if The vistors denoted in my sample space are 1lead of 10 mails sent ,
while the traffic is unlimted/universal resource. And of $x per lead,
depening on the subsription fees.
In our day today e-business, while testing a product to the 11760
segmented e-mail adresses, projected for being accessed per month as
may be presented :
traffic(universal resource) : leads : mails sent
1:10
projected mails sent : projected leads
11760:1176
You shouldnt be skeptik . apay perlead ($x)/subscription/service is is
being represented as a question about the project returns to the
economy in terms of job creation and society welfare as a biggest
fruit to reep in the parspective of the the amulgamated market place ,
the internet marketing in subject.
There are probably few people who know ant thing about how resourceful
the internet is ,and or have heard bout the chemistry that the minds'
results when blended in a spirit of perfect harmony can produce
another superhuman power to bread the vibration of thought.
And the entire e-busines/ enteprenuorship would blosom like an amoeba
if we applied the principle.thus the test wheather we will have every
thing for our test and wheather the goals of affilliatehip/
enterprenuorship/enterprise online is worth while .
Use me fish the best few associates than a mob which is wrong because
the right is always the winner. I can mentor, coppy writting, ican
advertise, Market and more.
Support me please .
Thanks
Samuel Jjingo +256772492280
On Jul 17, 6:34 pm, lukeMV l...@lukemv.com wrote:
I have a few questions:
I am using API to publish my search query onto a web page. Because the
web site is a public site, I don't want profanity. I found that I can
eliminate certain words with the -... but I also found that my API
stops working if I have too many queries... is there a simple query
that will block variations of a word. For example:
-duck (I want to block duck)
is there something I can type (for example -{duck}) that blocks:
ducker, ducking, duckeroo, unduckingbelieveable etc?
Thanks
[twitter-dev] Re: Matt Sanford, signing off.
All the bast Matt!!! Thanks for all you r help . On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Matt Sanfordm...@twitter.com wrote: Hi everybody*, Starting next week I'm not going to be responding to mails on the dev list or working on Google Code issues as part of my daily work. I have been working on the Search and API/Platform teams here at Twitter since the acquisition of Summize a year ago and the time has come for a change. I'm leaving both teams to take on the role of technical lead for the new Twitter internationalization team. Anybody who's gotten me talking about language detection or language-specifics (especially in person) knows this is something I have a personal interest in. The other team member are going to continue to keep an eye on the dev list and the Google Code issues. As always you can email a...@twitter.com directly if you need something. I'll continue working on the Google Code issues assigned to me or in some cases someone will take them over next week. I mostly felt like I should send you all a good bye since you're considered an extension of the API/Platform team. This change should be fully backward compatible so I didn't see the need for 7-days notice. Good night, and good luck; – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford Twitter Dev * = Who just said Hi, Dr. Nick. out loud? Your cube neighbor thinks you're crazy.
[twitter-dev] LOLCODE API Wrapper
I can't seem to find a LOLCODE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE) API wrapper for Twitter. I was hoping to write my next Twitter application in LOLCODE, but its very hard to do so without one. Can anyone help me get started with a basic program? My code so far isn't working HAI CAN HAS STDIO? MAKE CONNECT TWITTER NAO I HAS A VAR TWEET IM IN YR LOOP UP VAR!!1 GET UR TWEETS VISIBLE TWEETS IM OUTTA YR LOOP KTHXBYE Thoughts? An API wrapper would make all this much easier. David
[twitter-dev] Re: LOLCODE API Wrapper
most API libraries were written by 3rd party devs, so ... LOL GET 2 WERK KTHXBYE ;) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:54, David Fisher tib...@gmail.com wrote: I can't seem to find a LOLCODE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE) API wrapper for Twitter. I was hoping to write my next Twitter application in LOLCODE, but its very hard to do so without one. Can anyone help me get started with a basic program? My code so far isn't working HAI CAN HAS STDIO? MAKE CONNECT TWITTER NAO I HAS A VAR TWEET IM IN YR LOOP UP VAR!!1 GET UR TWEETS VISIBLE TWEETS IM OUTTA YR LOOP KTHXBYE Thoughts? An API wrapper would make all this much easier. David -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: Too many requests in this time period. Try again later.
Can someone verify if it is being limited even if the credentials are *correct*? -Chad On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Swarooprh.swar...@gmail.com wrote: This is occurring with OAuth as well. verify_credentials is now being limited to 15 calls/hour. I really wish they had informed us in advance, at least not a day before weekend. On Jul 18, 11:07 am, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: I asked the same thing of Alex - waiting to hear back. This method is still very useful for verifying users haven't changed their passwords since the last time the script was run. Also, in Alex's own words, OAuth isn't ready for production yet, last I heard so probably shouldn't go that route either (or is it?). Jesse On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:37 AM, J.D. jeremy.d.mul...@gmail.com wrote: I can see why this api should be limited, but it seems (from the outside, I'm sure maybe there are other reasons) like if the credentials are correct, it shouldn't count against the limit. Only limit if the attempts are bad (someone is fishing). J.D.
[twitter-dev] Re: LOLCODE API Wrapper
++ On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:15 PM, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: most API libraries were written by 3rd party devs, so ... LOL GET 2 WERK KTHXBYE ;) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:54, David Fisher tib...@gmail.com wrote: I can't seem to find a LOLCODE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE) API wrapper for Twitter. I was hoping to write my next Twitter application in LOLCODE, but its very hard to do so without one. Can anyone help me get started with a basic program? My code so far isn't working HAI CAN HAS STDIO? MAKE CONNECT TWITTER NAO I HAS A VAR TWEET IM IN YR LOOP UP VAR!!1 GET UR TWEETS VISIBLE TWEETS IM OUTTA YR LOOP KTHXBYE Thoughts? An API wrapper would make all this much easier. David -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: Too many requests in this time period. Try again later.
yeah, its being limited even when i call it with a valid OAuth sig. On Jul 18, 11:39 am, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone verify if it is being limited even if the credentials are *correct*? -Chad On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Swarooprh.swar...@gmail.com wrote: This is occurring with OAuth as well. verify_credentials is now being limited to 15 calls/hour. I really wish they had informed us in advance, at least not a day before weekend. On Jul 18, 11:07 am, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: I asked the same thing of Alex - waiting to hear back. This method is still very useful for verifying users haven't changed their passwords since the last time the script was run. Also, in Alex's own words, OAuth isn't ready for production yet, last I heard so probably shouldn't go that route either (or is it?). Jesse On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:37 AM, J.D. jeremy.d.mul...@gmail.com wrote: I can see why this api should be limited, but it seems (from the outside, I'm sure maybe there are other reasons) like if the credentials are correct, it shouldn't count against the limit. Only limit if the attempts are bad (someone is fishing). J.D.
[twitter-dev] Developers unite – throw off the yok e of Twitter centralization and publish your tweetstreams!
Chuck Shotton's recent Twitter is a prototype comment inspired me to write a blog post about overcoming the limitations of Twitter's design... I'm suggesting that Twitter apps should publish their tweetstreams locally or to a hosted service, as tagged RSS, so that anybody can aggregate, index and otherwise add value to them... without having to rely exclusively on Twitter to make the data available. I'm not saying there isn't a role for Twitter in the future, but I do believe Chuck hit the nail on the head in terms of their limitations. http://www.nickarnett.net/2009/07/18/developers-unite-throw-off-the-yoke-of-twitter-centralization-and-publish-your-tweetstreams/ And now I believe I had better duck. Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Developers unite – throw off the yoke of Twitter centralization and publish your tweetstreams!
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck Shotton's recent Twitter is a prototype comment inspired me to write a blog post about overcoming the limitations of Twitter's design... I'm suggesting that Twitter apps should publish their tweetstreams locally or to a hosted service, as tagged RSS, so that anybody can aggregate, index and otherwise add value to them... without having to rely exclusively on Twitter to make the data available. I'm not saying there isn't a role for Twitter in the future, but I do believe Chuck hit the nail on the head in terms of their limitations. http://www.nickarnett.net/2009/07/18/developers-unite-throw-off-the-yoke-of-twitter-centralization-and-publish-your-tweetstreams/ And now I believe I had better duck. Nick Old news. This topic of conversation has been around since the internetworked opensourced clones like laconi.ca started growing in popularity.
[twitter-dev] Re: Developers unite – throw off the yoke of Twitter centralization and publish your tweetstream s!
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: Old news. This topic of conversation has been around since the internetworked opensourced clones like laconi.ca started growing in popularity. I think you missed the point. What if TweetDeck, for example, by default also published the user's tweetstream as an RSS feed, letting the user choose where to publish it? What if every app did that? Everybody's tweetstreams would be distributed on the Internet, rather than centralized at Twitter. Before Twitter existed, nobody had the traction to make this happen. There wasn't even a place for developers to *talk* about this level of cooperation. But now there is, right here. Does anybody really think that the current centralized model can scale as fast as the market wants? Seems to me that it is in the best interests of app developers to work together toward less dependency on Twitter as a repository. And even though it might seem like it is against Twitter's interest to do so, in the long run I suspect its very survival depends on finding a role in which it doesn't have to have every tweet on the planet flow through its servers. Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Developers unite – throw off the yoke of Twitter centralization and publish your tweetstreams!
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: Old news. This topic of conversation has been around since the internetworked opensourced clones like laconi.ca started growing in popularity. I think you missed the point. What if TweetDeck, for example, by default also published the user's tweetstream as an RSS feed, letting the user choose where to publish it? What if every app did that? Everybody's tweetstreams would be distributed on the Internet, rather than centralized at Twitter. Before Twitter existed, nobody had the traction to make this happen. There wasn't even a place for developers to *talk* about this level of cooperation. But now there is, right here. Does anybody really think that the current centralized model can scale as fast as the market wants? Seems to me that it is in the best interests of app developers to work together toward less dependency on Twitter as a repository. And even though it might seem like it is against Twitter's interest to do so, in the long run I suspect its very survival depends on finding a role in which it doesn't have to have every tweet on the planet flow through its servers. Nick Like I said, old news. The same points have been made previously as I mentioned. And either way, certianly not the biggest blip on my radar, from a business app perspective.
[twitter-dev] Re: LOLCODE API Wrapper
Actually, I believe there is a PL/LOLCODE procedural language plug-in for PostgreSQL. So you could write a script in any other language to collect tweets into a PostgreSQL database, then build your stored procedures in LOLCODE. I CAN HAZ TWEETS? On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: ++ On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:15 PM, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: most API libraries were written by 3rd party devs, so ... LOL GET 2 WERK KTHXBYE ;) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:54, David Fisher tib...@gmail.com wrote: I can't seem to find a LOLCODE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE) API wrapper for Twitter. I was hoping to write my next Twitter application in LOLCODE, but its very hard to do so without one. Can anyone help me get started with a basic program? My code so far isn't working HAI CAN HAS STDIO? MAKE CONNECT TWITTER NAO I HAS A VAR TWEET IM IN YR LOOP UP VAR!!1 GET UR TWEETS VISIBLE TWEETS IM OUTTA YR LOOP KTHXBYE Thoughts? An API wrapper would make all this much easier. David -- Internets. Serious business. -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky http://borasky-research.net I've always regarded nature as the clothing of God. ~Alan Hovhaness
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter is not making money
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:49 AM, David Fisher tib...@gmail.com wrote: Show me these killer companies doing great NLP with social networks. NLP, especially sentiment analysis, is hard. The fact that tweets aren't English but an evolving language makes it harder. But there are certainly companies, for example Attensity, that are doing much better than the emoticon-counting that Twitter search does. And there is http://twittersentiment.appspot.com/, a research project by some grad students at Stanford. Perhaps you've heard of two other Stanford grad students, Sergey Brin and Larry Page? -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky http://borasky-research.net I've always regarded nature as the clothing of God. ~Alan Hovhaness
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter is not making money
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Kevin Mesiabke...@mesiablabs.com wrote: A per follower charge is a fast way to obliterate the value of Twitter as a platform. I disagree. Businesses are using Twitter to listen to their customers and to engage with them. I think a business should be allowed to follow as many customers and prospects as they want, totally without limits and totally without charge. But I think they should pay for the right to appear in thousands of timelines and to send direct messages to thousands of people. -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky http://borasky-research.net I've always regarded nature as the clothing of God. ~Alan Hovhaness
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter is not making money
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zzn...@gmail.comwrote: And there is http://twittersentiment.appspot.com/, a research project by some grad students at Stanford. Perhaps you've heard of two other Stanford grad students, Sergey Brin and Larry Page? Gilt by association? Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Too many requests in this time period. Try again later.
Yeah, to tell you the truth the no notice thing has completely ruined my weekend trying to re-factor broken production code thanks to this. Jesse On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Swaroop rh.swar...@gmail.com wrote: This is occurring with OAuth as well. verify_credentials is now being limited to 15 calls/hour. I really wish they had informed us in advance, at least not a day before weekend. On Jul 18, 11:07 am, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: I asked the same thing of Alex - waiting to hear back. This method is still very useful for verifying users haven't changed their passwords since the last time the script was run. Also, in Alex's own words, OAuth isn't ready for production yet, last I heard so probably shouldn't go that route either (or is it?). Jesse On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:37 AM, J.D. jeremy.d.mul...@gmail.com wrote: I can see why this api should be limited, but it seems (from the outside, I'm sure maybe there are other reasons) like if the credentials are correct, it shouldn't count against the limit. Only limit if the attempts are bad (someone is fishing). J.D.
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter is not making money
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Nick Arnettnick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: If you think there are no well-funded, successful companies in this domain, take a look at Nielsen/Buzzmetrics. They've been at this for more than 10 years. They acquired my patents, from a startup where we demonstrated basic sentiment analysis in 2000 and 2001, showing that our software could rate the sentiment of Usenet movie reviews with 80 percent accuracy and forecast box office. Netflix, even without the contributions of the contest teams, is doing pretty well too. ;-) I would love to see more people tackling this kind of problem, but nobody is likely to succeed if they don't realize what has worked and what hasn't over the last decade and more. Intelligence agencies and law enforcement have used relevant techniques for 20-30 years. For example, traffic analysis is fundamental and doesn't require any NLP, just as the NSA is able to identify command and control centers by their behavior without having to decode a single encrypted transmission. The danger of focusing on NLP and other really hard problems is that you fail to apply known techniques in new ways. Having said all that, I'll add that a lot of what I saw over the last few years in social media analytics was pretty eye candy without much behind it. If that's all you look at, then yes, it seems quite shallow. But I would hope that serious developers know that that's not all there is. The systems I've built over the last decade have been based first on traffic analysis, then social network analysis, and last, text/lingustic analysis... and to do the latter well, humans were involved in the final summarization of topics, trends and so forth. Man, it is so good to hear this from someone who's actually done it! The other point, though, is that the real thing, even traffic / social network analysis, is compute-resource intensive and requires a kind of programming knowledge that few have. So if something simple, like emoticon counting, provides *some* clues about sentiment, it may be worth doing. I'm not convinced, though, that it is worth doing. -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky http://borasky-research.net I've always regarded nature as the clothing of God. ~Alan Hovhaness
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter is not making money
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:02 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zzn...@gmail.comwrote: Netflix, even without the contributions of the contest teams, is doing pretty well too. ;-) Different problem - they're aggregating votes, not trying to interpret language. Although it is certainly possible that some of the competitors are using third-party sources and linguistic analysis... I thought briefly about giving that a shot. Man, it is so good to hear this from someone who's actually done it! The other point, though, is that the real thing, even traffic / social network analysis, is compute-resource intensive and requires a kind of programming knowledge that few have. So if something simple, like emoticon counting, provides *some* clues about sentiment, it may be worth doing. I'm not convinced, though, that it is worth doing. I'm not sure that's so true... there are a lot of tools out there that can be hooked together. The statistics and time series analytics call for some advanced knowledge, but I doubt if much of it is beyond a master's degree level. I found the harder parts to be figuring out what business problems can be solved, then packaging and presenting the data to people in a useful manner that also can be automated. There are a lot of graphs and visualizations, especially network visualizations, that work for the data at one point in time and become a mess when the data changes, so they are useless in an automated system. I was designing for executives who wanted everything summarized in a page... definitely a challenge. All the plumbing is hard to maintain, too, which is an argument for standards that would allow the pain to be shared. Nick
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter is not making money
Bayesian filters are actually pretty good at sentiment analysis - of course the quality of the classification is based upon the corpus of information fed into the filters. I implemented this for a while with http://flixpulse.com for movie review tweet analysis. It wasn't perfect, but the filters got smarter really quickly. The hardest part, of course, was spending the time to train them initially by classifying tweets manually. I had to somewhat abandon FlixPulse to move on to other things, but I hope to revive it at some point. -Chad On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Nick Arnettnick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zzn...@gmail.com wrote: And there is http://twittersentiment.appspot.com/, a research project by some grad students at Stanford. Perhaps you've heard of two other Stanford grad students, Sergey Brin and Larry Page? Gilt by association? Nick
[twitter-dev] Tweet Photo
Hey guys, just a quick FYI. TweetPhoto has a revenue share option for developers. You can earn revenue from google adwords displayed near photos uploaded by your client. Some of you I know have great volume and this would probably be a relatively painless and tasteful revenue stream to capitalize on. I'm not involved w/ TweetPhoto in any way, but I do plan to integrate their API, and set it as default ;) Hope some of you find this helpful. -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com
[twitter-dev] Followers with time they followed
Hello everyone, I'm trying to pull a list of followers, including the time they started following. I'm not sure what method should be used for this. Here's what I thought about so far and didn't work. - ids.xml (obviously not) - followers.xml the more detailed one (still no info on the time) - friendship exists (still no info on the time) Anyone can help with ideas for this. Is there a method or combination of methods, or any idea, to get the time this follower started following? Thanks, Nick
