[U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I’ll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Or at the very least, on a world-wide list like this, what continent it is on? (unless, of course, it is a tele-commutable opportunity) Susan Lynch - Original Message - From: Marc Harbeson marc.harbe...@gmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: 04/06/2011 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Or, you could be professional as a recruiter and at least specify what region of the country it's in so people on the other side of the country don't waste their time and yours. C'mon... Really? Glen Batchelor IT Director/CIO/CTO All-Spec Industries phone: (910) 332-0424 fax: (910) 763-5664 E-mail: webmas...@all-spec.com Web: http://www.all-spec.com Blog: http://blog.all-spec.com -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] UV Common
Can anyone point me to a manual somewhere that describes the differences between behaviors in the COMMON basic statement between the different flavors of Universe? Thanks! -Dianne ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Granted, it could be legit but this just reeks of bait and switch tactics where they build up a list of potentials for a non-existent opportunity then use the info as direct contacts trying to pretend to have a personal history with you. If they give any kind of specific details now, they can be caught by their own fly paper. Now if the job is in Libya -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Garry Smith Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:04 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.comwrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
Interesting indeed. I thought that I would check out the website contained in Joe's original email bsgstaffing.com, I was not surprised that I can not find a viable website at the address. Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
It seems he's real enough. Checks out with GoDaddy.com as being registered in New Jersey, anyway. It's just that unless they are looking for someone to go through the Stargate and work off-world there just ISN'T a job that is SO secret, SO sensitive that you can't even say what state/country the job is located in. I mean, come on! We're all professionals, and a pretty smart bunch, too! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Pizer Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:29 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition Interesting indeed. I thought that I would check out the website contained in Joe's original email bsgstaffing.com, I was not surprised that I can not find a viable website at the address. Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
Different products within the Epicor offering. The flagship hunk of junk - E9 runs on progress. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.comwrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Take and give some delight today ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
Epicor has their package of the future which started as Vantage and is now just called Epicor 9. It is a Progress based system which can run on either a Progress database or Sql. Unfortunately, my company has taken the misstep to divert from UniVerse to this monstrosity. Barry Rogen Senior Programmer/Analyst 973 560-5327 bro...@pny.com - We are continually faced with great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems. John W Gardner Before printing please think about your environmental responsibility -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:34 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position Epicor's Avante used to run on both UniData and UniVerse. I presume that Avante is still the same. Avante-UniData was intended for Windows Servers. Avante-UniVerse on Unix Servers. I am not aware of any Epicor's product running on Progress. I believe that Epicor had (or still has) other ERP software running on U2. A few years ago, with Epicor's new president, George X... Epicor's newer flagship product was released and runs on Microsoft SQL Server. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.comwrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
Manage-2000 aka ROI is still under the Epicor flag and using Unidata as the database. Epicor pushes hard to move us off to other products but we are die hards and to my knowledge development is still continuing on this product. We are a loyal bunch and love listening to the traumas of those that have tried to transition off to other offerings with great difficulty. On 4/6/2011 12:46 PM, Marc Harbeson wrote: Different products within the Epicor offering. The flagship hunk of junk - E9 runs on progress. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.comwrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 110406-0, 04/06/2011 Tested on: 4/6/2011 12:55:20 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2011 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
This position is located on the East Coast of the US I will be happy to discuss the full details of this position if you contact me directly. I respect your privacy. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter BSG Staffing Group LLC Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Susan Lynch sly...@fwdco.com wrote: Or at the very least, on a world-wide list like this, what continent it is on? (unless, of course, it is a tele-commutable opportunity) Susan Lynch - Original Message - From: Marc Harbeson marc.harbe...@gmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: 04/06/2011 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition
Same story with us. Avante, Unidata, Windows. Epicor had several ERP products and Epicor 9 was developed to be the single ERP application for marketing. Development continues on Avante, but I don't think there is much marketing of the Epicor Unidata Products. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tech Man Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:55 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition Manage-2000 aka ROI is still under the Epicor flag and using Unidata as the database. Epicor pushes hard to move us off to other products but we are die hards and to my knowledge development is still continuing on this product. We are a loyal bunch and love listening to the traumas of those that have tried to transition off to other offerings with great difficulty. On 4/6/2011 12:46 PM, Marc Harbeson wrote: Different products within the Epicor offering. The flagship hunk of junk - E9 runs on progress. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.comwrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS):
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
Yeah, I had the feeling some folks took the bait in that direction, particularly once they gave that oh-so-enticing option of SQL Server. I'm particularly amused by this line in the wikipedia page for Progress Progress Software maintains in house consultants to develop and launch its products. That sounds almost like the PeopleSoft model -- hire sales, outsource RD, although they seem to insource them instead. Sorry you have had to go this route due to what would seem to be a reasonable company decision to continue with the ERP vendor and migrate to their latest offering. I recall a time not too long ago when Epicor was from the top UniData VAR and Datatel was the 2nd. They now both have SQL Server offerings, although to date Datatel's still has UDT in the middle tier AFAIK. --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Barry Rogen bro...@pny.com wrote: Epicor has their package of the future which started as Vantage and is now just called Epicor 9. It is a Progress based system which can run on either a Progress database or Sql. Unfortunately, my company has taken the misstep to divert from UniVerse to this monstrosity. Barry Rogen Senior Programmer/Analyst 973 560-5327 bro...@pny.com - We are continually faced with great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems. John W Gardner Before printing please think about your environmental responsibility -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:34 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position Epicor's Avante used to run on both UniData and UniVerse. I presume that Avante is still the same. Avante-UniData was intended for Windows Servers. Avante-UniVerse on Unix Servers. I am not aware of any Epicor's product running on Progress. I believe that Epicor had (or still has) other ERP software running on U2. A few years ago, with Epicor's new president, George X... Epicor's newer flagship product was released and runs on Microsoft SQL Server. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.com wrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To:
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition
To purchase a Epicor U2 product you must first know it exists, then beg to buy it. (Unless you're an existing customer, then they will gladly sell you more copies) Development continues - but not nearly at the pace for when the U2 products were in active marketing driven development. Today all development is driven by customer requested features. (Which is actually better than marketing driven) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Michael Martin Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:03 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition Same story with us. Avante, Unidata, Windows. Epicor had several ERP products and Epicor 9 was developed to be the single ERP application for marketing. Development continues on Avante, but I don't think there is much marketing of the Epicor Unidata Products. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tech Man Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:55 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition Manage-2000 aka ROI is still under the Epicor flag and using Unidata as the database. Epicor pushes hard to move us off to other products but we are die hards and to my knowledge development is still continuing on this product. We are a loyal bunch and love listening to the traumas of those that have tried to transition off to other offerings with great difficulty. On 4/6/2011 12:46 PM, Marc Harbeson wrote: Different products within the Epicor offering. The flagship hunk of junk - E9 runs on progress. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.comwrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
I can only imagine how this feels at Rocket... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:51 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position Yeah, I had the feeling some folks took the bait in that direction, particularly once they gave that oh-so-enticing option of SQL Server. I'm particularly amused by this line in the wikipedia page for Progress Progress Software maintains in house consultants to develop and launch its products. That sounds almost like the PeopleSoft model -- hire sales, outsource RD, although they seem to insource them instead. Sorry you have had to go this route due to what would seem to be a reasonable company decision to continue with the ERP vendor and migrate to their latest offering. I recall a time not too long ago when Epicor was from the top UniData VAR and Datatel was the 2nd. They now both have SQL Server offerings, although to date Datatel's still has UDT in the middle tier AFAIK. --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Barry Rogen bro...@pny.com wrote: Epicor has their package of the future which started as Vantage and is now just called Epicor 9. It is a Progress based system which can run on either a Progress database or Sql. Unfortunately, my company has taken the misstep to divert from UniVerse to this monstrosity. Barry Rogen Senior Programmer/Analyst 973 560-5327 bro...@pny.com - We are continually faced with great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems. John W Gardner Before printing please think about your environmental responsibility -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:34 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position Epicor's Avante used to run on both UniData and UniVerse. I presume that Avante is still the same. Avante-UniData was intended for Windows Servers. Avante-UniVerse on Unix Servers. I am not aware of any Epicor's product running on Progress. I believe that Epicor had (or still has) other ERP software running on U2. A few years ago, with Epicor's new president, George X... Epicor's newer flagship product was released and runs on Microsoft SQL Server. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.com wrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Hello everyone: I'm just trying to limit competition from other recruiters by not disclosing too much information on this forum. I apologize if this is a problem for anyone. I'm just trying to find good candidates and I know they are on this forum. Thank you! Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter BSG Staffing Group LLC PO Box 8651 Turnersville, NJ 08012 Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com This message and any attachments may contain confidential or privileged information and are only for the use of the intended recipient of this message. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by return email, and delete or destroy this and all copies of this message and all attachments. Any unauthorized disclosure, use, distribution, or reproduction of this message or any attachments is prohibited and may be unlawful. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Granted, it could be legit but this just reeks of bait and switch tactics where they build up a list of potentials for a non-existent opportunity then use the info as direct contacts trying to pretend to have a personal history with you. If they give any kind of specific details now, they can be caught by their own fly paper. Now if the job is in Libya -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Garry Smith Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:04 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
Why would they care? I know products that moved to MSSQL and ppl still lined up for the unix offering. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Marc Harbeson marc.harbe...@gmail.com wrote: I can only imagine how this feels at Rocket... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:51 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position Yeah, I had the feeling some folks took the bait in that direction, particularly once they gave that oh-so-enticing option of SQL Server. I'm particularly amused by this line in the wikipedia page for Progress Progress Software maintains in house consultants to develop and launch its products. That sounds almost like the PeopleSoft model -- hire sales, outsource RD, although they seem to insource them instead. Sorry you have had to go this route due to what would seem to be a reasonable company decision to continue with the ERP vendor and migrate to their latest offering. I recall a time not too long ago when Epicor was from the top UniData VAR and Datatel was the 2nd. They now both have SQL Server offerings, although to date Datatel's still has UDT in the middle tier AFAIK. --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Barry Rogen bro...@pny.com wrote: Epicor has their package of the future which started as Vantage and is now just called Epicor 9. It is a Progress based system which can run on either a Progress database or Sql. Unfortunately, my company has taken the misstep to divert from UniVerse to this monstrosity. Barry Rogen Senior Programmer/Analyst 973 560-5327 bro...@pny.com - We are continually faced with great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems. John W Gardner Before printing please think about your environmental responsibility -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:34 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position Epicor's Avante used to run on both UniData and UniVerse. I presume that Avante is still the same. Avante-UniData was intended for Windows Servers. Avante-UniVerse on Unix Servers. I am not aware of any Epicor's product running on Progress. I believe that Epicor had (or still has) other ERP software running on U2. A few years ago, with Epicor's new president, George X... Epicor's newer flagship product was released and runs on Microsoft SQL Server. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position This is fascinating, although I primarily know these products from a distance. Am I correct that Epicor was UniData. Is it now Progress instead? Have customers moved from UniData to Progress? Was this previously Intuit Eclipse that runs on UniVerse? What DBMS will this new company favor? Does anyone have any more clues on this? --dawn On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Garry Smith gar...@charlesmcmurray.com wrote: Could be for our ex-var Activant Eclipse that just got re-sold to another equity investor. Private equity firm Apax Partners plans to acquire business-application makers Epicor Software and Activant Solutions and combine them into a single mid-market company with annual revenue of $825 million. - Information Week 4/5 Most of these are U2 based applications. Garry L. Smith Dir Info Systems Charles McMurray Company V# 559-292-5782 F# 559-346-6169 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Woodward Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:56 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position It's obviously a new installation at the nuclear missile base that Santa is building at the North pole! Or maybe this is a fishing expedition with a safety pin for a hook. You decide. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Please email directly and I'll be happy to discuss with you. This is a very confidential position. -Original Message- From:
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition
I don't usually contribute much to this forum - but I appreciate the chance to stay connected via the great posts here. In this case however, I do have some specific experience relative to this thread that might be beneficial to some. I've worked as a user, Epicor project manager/consultant, and independent ERP consultant since 1985 on several Dataworks/Interactive/Platinum/Epicor products including: DataFlo, Infoflo, and Avante (I've worked with Avante from the original release to the current version), and now Epicor 9. Relative to the Progress/SQL conversations: Epicor 9 can run on SQL or Progress, but our benchmark testing indicated much slower performance on a very beefy SQL machine. Processes, forms and reports were timed at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed that they run on an average Progress server. Additionally, Epicor wasted much of my customer's time claiming that the transition would be simple (it wasn't), and that SQL would be faster, or equal to Progress (it definitely wasn't). We gave up and stayed on Progress - but use SQL for our Replication Server. Regarding functionality - in my opinion Avante and DataFlo can still run circles around Epicor 9 in many applications - the E9 design and functionality is not as deep or well developed yet. However, it is getting most of Epicor's development resources and attention these days and is getting better quickly. I wouldn't advise most of my customers to make the leap yet (but maybe in a couple of years) from Avante/DataFlo to E9, but it was a natural evolution for my customer that was previously using Vista 8. In my opinion, the central benefit to E9 over Avante though is the ability to modify the functionality of the software without modifying the source code. They do this via Business Process Methods (BPM's) and Personalizations. Screen layout and fields are also very easy to modify. Extracting and presenting data is very straightforward and interfaces to MS products pretty seamlessly, in most cases users can perform extracts to Excel out of the box - no IT interface required. Sophisticated reports can be quickly and easily developed using E9's Business Activity Queries (BAQ's) and Dashboards. Both of which can be learned and used by anyone that could in the past use MS Access or some of Excel's advanced functions. This limits IT involvement to only very complex report solutions (which can also be done using BAQ's and Dashboards, but may take a little more time to develop). The most obvious advantage comparing Epicor 9 to Avante for the customers that I have worked with is that making changes to process functionality using Business Process Methods (BPM's) does not inhibit the company from taking EVERY patch or upgrade that is offered. NO KNITTING. The BPM's, BAQ's and Dashboards (custom reports) are easily moved from the previously installed version to the next. So, every time a new release comes out, IT does a quick 1-2 set-up and test, training is developed and implemented for new product functionality associated with the new release (usually less than one week), critical users exercise and test the new version in the Pilot account, then the upgrade/patch is rolled out. We can take advantage of new functionality and bug fixes almost immediately (usually within 2-5 business days of roll-out) without worrying about which modifications might be stepped on or deleted. Sometimes the Epicor 9 experience can be very frustrating, but we believe that Epicor is going in the right direction and within a couple of years E9 will probably match Avante and DataFlo in functionality. In spite of some of the pain associated with being part of the rollout of a new(ish) product, the IT departments at my customers are GLAD that they are on Epicor 9. John H Carter III Impact Business Consulting Corporation Cell (760) 497-5545 Unlocking Your Potential -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:51 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition Yeah, I had the feeling some folks took the bait in that direction, particularly once they gave that oh-so-enticing option of SQL Server. I'm particularly amused by this line in the wikipedia page for Progress Progress Software maintains in house consultants to develop and launch its products. That sounds almost like the PeopleSoft model -- hire sales, outsource RD, although they seem to insource them instead. Sorry you have had to go this route due to what would seem to be a reasonable company decision to continue with the ERP vendor and migrate to their latest offering. I recall a time not too long ago when Epicor was from the top UniData VAR and Datatel was the 2nd. They now both have SQL Server offerings, although to date Datatel's still has UDT in the middle tier AFAIK. --dawn On Wed, Apr
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition
You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g. Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me. On 06/04/2011 19:34, John Carter wrote: I don't usually contribute much to this forum - but I appreciate the chance to stay connected via the great posts here. In this case however, I do have some specific experience relative to this thread that might be beneficial to some. I've worked as a user, Epicor project manager/consultant, and independent ERP consultant since 1985 on several Dataworks/Interactive/Platinum/Epicor products including: DataFlo, Infoflo, and Avante (I've worked with Avante from the original release to the current version), and now Epicor 9. Relative to the Progress/SQL conversations: Epicor 9 can run on SQL or Progress, but our benchmark testing indicated much slower performance on a very beefy SQL machine. Processes, forms and reports were timed at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed that they run on an average Progress server. Additionally, Epicor wasted much of my customer's time claiming that the transition would be simple (it wasn't), and that SQL would be faster, or equal to Progress (it definitely wasn't). We gave up and stayed on Progress - but use SQL for our Replication Server. Regarding functionality - in my opinion Avante and DataFlo can still run circles around Epicor 9 in many applications - the E9 design and functionality is not as deep or well developed yet. However, it is getting most of Epicor's development resources and attention these days and is getting better quickly. I wouldn't advise most of my customers to make the leap yet (but maybe in a couple of years) from Avante/DataFlo to E9, but it was a natural evolution for my customer that was previously using Vista 8. In my opinion, the central benefit to E9 over Avante though is the ability to modify the functionality of the software without modifying the source code. They do this via Business Process Methods (BPM's) and Personalizations. Screen layout and fields are also very easy to modify. Extracting and presenting data is very straightforward and interfaces to MS products pretty seamlessly, in most cases users can perform extracts to Excel out of the box - no IT interface required. Sophisticated reports can be quickly and easily developed using E9's Business Activity Queries (BAQ's) and Dashboards. Both of which can be learned and used by anyone that could in the past use MS Access or some of Excel's advanced functions. This limits IT involvement to only very complex report solutions (which can also be done using BAQ's and Dashboards, but may take a little more time to develop). The most obvious advantage comparing Epicor 9 to Avante for the customers that I have worked with is that making changes to process functionality using Business Process Methods (BPM's) does not inhibit the company from taking EVERY patch or upgrade that is offered. NO KNITTING. The BPM's, BAQ's and Dashboards (custom reports) are easily moved from the previously installed version to the next. So, every time a new release comes out, IT does a quick 1-2 set-up and test, training is developed and implemented for new product functionality associated with the new release (usually less than one week), critical users exercise and test the new version in the Pilot account, then the upgrade/patch is rolled out. We can take advantage of new functionality and bug fixes almost immediately (usually within 2-5 business days of roll-out) without worrying about which modifications might be stepped on or deleted. Sometimes the Epicor 9 experience can be very frustrating, but we believe that Epicor is going in the right direction and within a couple of years E9 will probably match Avante and DataFlo in functionality. In spite of some of the pain associated with being part of the rollout of a new(ish) product, the IT departments at my customers are GLAD that they are on Epicor 9. John H Carter III Impact Business Consulting Corporation Cell (760) 497-5545 Unlocking Your Potential -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:51 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition Yeah, I had the feeling some folks took the bait in that direction, particularly once they gave that oh-so-enticing option of SQL Server. I'm particularly amused by this line in the wikipedia page for Progress Progress Software maintains in house consultants to develop and launch its products. That sounds almost like the PeopleSoft model -- hire sales, outsource RD, although they seem to insource them instead. Sorry you have had to go this route due to what would seem to be a reasonable company decision to continue with the ERP vendor and migrate to their latest offering. I recall a time not too
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition
lol On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Mecki Foerthmann mec...@gmx.net wrote: You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g. Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition
I'm no shill for Epicor, they usually regard me as competition for their consulting and project management services. I just thought that I would contribute about a topic that I was pretty familiar with. I thought that was part of value of this forum. Pardon me for interrupting. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g. Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me. On 06/04/2011 19:34, John Carter wrote: I don't usually contribute much to this forum - but I appreciate the chance to stay connected via the great posts here. In this case however, I do have some specific experience relative to this thread that might be beneficial to some. I've worked as a user, Epicor project manager/consultant, and independent ERP consultant since 1985 on several Dataworks/Interactive/Platinum/Epicor products including: DataFlo, Infoflo, and Avante (I've worked with Avante from the original release to the current version), and now Epicor 9. Relative to the Progress/SQL conversations: Epicor 9 can run on SQL or Progress, but our benchmark testing indicated much slower performance on a very beefy SQL machine. Processes, forms and reports were timed at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed that they run on an average Progress server. Additionally, Epicor wasted much of my customer's time claiming that the transition would be simple (it wasn't), and that SQL would be faster, or equal to Progress (it definitely wasn't). We gave up and stayed on Progress - but use SQL for our Replication Server. Regarding functionality - in my opinion Avante and DataFlo can still run circles around Epicor 9 in many applications - the E9 design and functionality is not as deep or well developed yet. However, it is getting most of Epicor's development resources and attention these days and is getting better quickly. I wouldn't advise most of my customers to make the leap yet (but maybe in a couple of years) from Avante/DataFlo to E9, but it was a natural evolution for my customer that was previously using Vista 8. In my opinion, the central benefit to E9 over Avante though is the ability to modify the functionality of the software without modifying the source code. They do this via Business Process Methods (BPM's) and Personalizations. Screen layout and fields are also very easy to modify. Extracting and presenting data is very straightforward and interfaces to MS products pretty seamlessly, in most cases users can perform extracts to Excel out of the box - no IT interface required. Sophisticated reports can be quickly and easily developed using E9's Business Activity Queries (BAQ's) and Dashboards. Both of which can be learned and used by anyone that could in the past use MS Access or some of Excel's advanced functions. This limits IT involvement to only very complex report solutions (which can also be done using BAQ's and Dashboards, but may take a little more time to develop). The most obvious advantage comparing Epicor 9 to Avante for the customers that I have worked with is that making changes to process functionality using Business Process Methods (BPM's) does not inhibit the company from taking EVERY patch or upgrade that is offered. NO KNITTING. The BPM's, BAQ's and Dashboards (custom reports) are easily moved from the previously installed version to the next. So, every time a new release comes out, IT does a quick 1-2 set-up and test, training is developed and implemented for new product functionality associated with the new release (usually less than one week), critical users exercise and test the new version in the Pilot account, then the upgrade/patch is rolled out. We can take advantage of new functionality and bug fixes almost immediately (usually within 2-5 business days of roll-out) without worrying about which modifications might be stepped on or deleted. Sometimes the Epicor 9 experience can be very frustrating, but we believe that Epicor is going in the right direction and within a couple of years E9 will probably match Avante and DataFlo in functionality. In spite of some of the pain associated with being part of the rollout of a new(ish) product, the IT departments at my customers are GLAD that they are on Epicor 9. John H Carter III Impact Business Consulting Corporation Cell (760) 497-5545 Unlocking Your Potential -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dawn Wolthuis Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:51 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administratorposition Yeah, I had the feeling some folks took the
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition
Your contribution is welcome and valued! Brenda L Price UniVerse Lead Programmer Rapid Response Team Market America, Inc. Greensboro, NC U2 User Group Board Member - u2ug.org -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Carter Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 4:08 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition I'm no shill for Epicor, they usually regard me as competition for their consulting and project management services. I just thought that I would contribute about a topic that I was pretty familiar with. I thought that was part of value of this forum. Pardon me for interrupting. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g. Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me. On 06/04/2011 19:34, John Carter wrote: I don't usually contribute much to this forum - but I appreciate the chance to stay connected via the great posts here. In this case however, I do have some specific experience relative to this thread that might be beneficial to some. I've worked as a user, Epicor project manager/consultant, and independent ERP consultant since 1985 on several Dataworks/Interactive/Platinum/Epicor products including: DataFlo, Infoflo, and Avante (I've worked with Avante from the original release to the current version), and now Epicor 9. Relative to the Progress/SQL conversations: Epicor 9 can run on SQL or Progress, but our benchmark testing indicated much slower performance on a very beefy SQL machine. Processes, forms and reports were timed at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed that they run on an average Progress server. Additionally, Epicor wasted much of my customer's time claiming that the transition would be simple (it wasn't), and that SQL would be faster, or equal to Progress (it definitely wasn't). We gave up and stayed on Progress - but use SQL for our Replication Server. Regarding functionality - in my opinion Avante and DataFlo can still run circles around Epicor 9 in many applications - the E9 design and functionality is not as deep or well developed yet. However, it is getting most of Epicor's development resources and attention these days and is getting better quickly. I wouldn't advise most of my customers to make the leap yet (but maybe in a couple of years) from Avante/DataFlo to E9, but it was a natural evolution for my customer that was previously using Vista 8. In my opinion, the central benefit to E9 over Avante though is the ability to modify the functionality of the software without modifying the source code. They do this via Business Process Methods (BPM's) and Personalizations. Screen layout and fields are also very easy to modify. Extracting and presenting data is very straightforward and interfaces to MS products pretty seamlessly, in most cases users can perform extracts to Excel out of the box - no IT interface required. Sophisticated reports can be quickly and easily developed using E9's Business Activity Queries (BAQ's) and Dashboards. Both of which can be learned and used by anyone that could in the past use MS Access or some of Excel's advanced functions. This limits IT involvement to only very complex report solutions (which can also be done using BAQ's and Dashboards, but may take a little more time to develop). The most obvious advantage comparing Epicor 9 to Avante for the customers that I have worked with is that making changes to process functionality using Business Process Methods (BPM's) does not inhibit the company from taking EVERY patch or upgrade that is offered. NO KNITTING. The BPM's, BAQ's and Dashboards (custom reports) are easily moved from the previously installed version to the next. So, every time a new release comes out, IT does a quick 1-2 set-up and test, training is developed and implemented for new product functionality associated with the new release (usually less than one week), critical users exercise and test the new version in the Pilot account, then the upgrade/patch is rolled out. We can take advantage of new functionality and bug fixes almost immediately (usually within 2-5 business days of roll-out) without worrying about which modifications might be stepped on or deleted. Sometimes the Epicor 9 experience can be very frustrating, but we believe that Epicor is going in the right direction and within a couple of years E9 will probably match Avante and DataFlo in functionality. In spite of some of the pain associated with being part of the rollout of a new(ish) product, the IT departments at my customers are GLAD that they are on
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse
Overly sensitive much? It was a joke. Mecki, This is exactly the reason this :) was invented for use in textual conversations where the subtleties of inflection are missing. I think a lot of folks here on U2users seem to have developed easily bunched panties syndrome lately. Chill people. Oh and Eclipse (Avanti, Intuit, this weeks owner) definitely runs on Universe. John Carter wrote: I'm no shill for Epicor, they usually regard me as competition for their consulting and project management services. I just thought that I would contribute about a topic that I was pretty familiar with. I thought that was part of value of this forum. Pardon me for interrupting. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g. Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me. On 06/04/2011 19:34, John Carter wrote: I don't usually contribute much to this forum - but I appreciate the chance to stay connected via the great posts here. In this case however, I do have some specific experience relative to this thread that might be beneficial to some. I've worked as a user, Epicor project manager/consultant, and independent ERP consultant since 1985 on several Dataworks/Interactive/Platinum/Epicor products including: DataFlo, Infoflo, and Avante (I've worked with Avante from the original release to the current version), and now Epicor 9. Relative to the Progress/SQL conversations: Epicor 9 can run on SQL or Progress, but our benchmark testing indicated much slower performance on a very beefy SQL machine. Processes, forms and reports were timed at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed that they run on an average Progress server. Additionally, Epicor wasted much of my customer's time claiming that the transition would be simple (it wasn't), and that SQL would be faster, or equal to Progress (it definitely wasn't). We gave up and stayed on Progress - but use SQL for our Replication Server. Regarding functionality - in my opinion Avante and DataFlo can still run circles around Epicor 9 in many applications - the E9 design and functionality is not as deep or well developed yet. However, it is getting most of Epicor's development resources and attention these days and is getting better quickly. I wouldn't advise most of my customers to make the leap yet (but maybe in a couple of years) from Avante/DataFlo to E9, but it was a natural evolution for my customer that was previously using Vista 8. In my opinion, the central benefit to E9 over Avante though is the ability to modify the functionality of the software without modifying the source code. They do this via Business Process Methods (BPM's) and Personalizations. Screen layout and fields are also very easy to modify. Extracting and presenting data is very straightforward and interfaces to MS products pretty seamlessly, in most cases users can perform extracts to Excel out of the box - no IT interface required. Sophisticated reports can be quickly and easily developed using E9's Business Activity Queries (BAQ's) and Dashboards. Both of which can be learned and used by anyone that could in the past use MS Access or some of Excel's advanced functions. This limits IT involvement to only very complex report solutions (which can also be done using BAQ's and Dashboards, but may take a little more time to develop). The most obvious advantage comparing Epicor 9 to Avante for the customers that I have worked with is that making changes to process functionality using Business Process Methods (BPM's) does not inhibit the company from taking EVERY patch or upgrade that is offered. NO KNITTING. The BPM's, BAQ's and Dashboards (custom reports) are easily moved from the previously installed version to the next. So, every time a new release comes out, IT does a quick 1-2 set-up and test, training is developed and implemented for new product functionality associated with the new release (usually less than one week), critical users exercise and test the new version in the Pilot account, then the upgrade/patch is rolled out. We can take advantage of new functionality and bug fixes almost immediately (usually within 2-5 business days of roll-out) without worrying about which modifications might be stepped on or deleted. Sometimes the Epicor 9 experience can be very frustrating, but we believe that Epicor is going in the right direction and within a couple of years E9 will probably match Avante and DataFlo in functionality. In spite of some of the pain associated with being part of the rollout of a new(ish) product, the IT departments at my customers are GLAD that they are on Epicor 9. John H Carter III Impact Business Consulting Corporation Cell (760) 497-5545 Unlocking Your Potential
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse WasRe: PICKSystems Administratorposition
Thank you! John -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brenda Price Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:29 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse WasRe: PICKSystems Administratorposition Your contribution is welcome and valued! Brenda L Price UniVerse Lead Programmer Rapid Response Team Market America, Inc. Greensboro, NC U2 User Group Board Member - u2ug.org -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Carter Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 4:08 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition I'm no shill for Epicor, they usually regard me as competition for their consulting and project management services. I just thought that I would contribute about a topic that I was pretty familiar with. I thought that was part of value of this forum. Pardon me for interrupting. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g. Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me. On 06/04/2011 19:34, John Carter wrote: I don't usually contribute much to this forum - but I appreciate the chance to stay connected via the great posts here. In this case however, I do have some specific experience relative to this thread that might be beneficial to some. I've worked as a user, Epicor project manager/consultant, and independent ERP consultant since 1985 on several Dataworks/Interactive/Platinum/Epicor products including: DataFlo, Infoflo, and Avante (I've worked with Avante from the original release to the current version), and now Epicor 9. Relative to the Progress/SQL conversations: Epicor 9 can run on SQL or Progress, but our benchmark testing indicated much slower performance on a very beefy SQL machine. Processes, forms and reports were timed at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed that they run on an average Progress server. Additionally, Epicor wasted much of my customer's time claiming that the transition would be simple (it wasn't), and that SQL would be faster, or equal to Progress (it definitely wasn't). We gave up and stayed on Progress - but use SQL for our Replication Server. Regarding functionality - in my opinion Avante and DataFlo can still run circles around Epicor 9 in many applications - the E9 design and functionality is not as deep or well developed yet. However, it is getting most of Epicor's development resources and attention these days and is getting better quickly. I wouldn't advise most of my customers to make the leap yet (but maybe in a couple of years) from Avante/DataFlo to E9, but it was a natural evolution for my customer that was previously using Vista 8. In my opinion, the central benefit to E9 over Avante though is the ability to modify the functionality of the software without modifying the source code. They do this via Business Process Methods (BPM's) and Personalizations. Screen layout and fields are also very easy to modify. Extracting and presenting data is very straightforward and interfaces to MS products pretty seamlessly, in most cases users can perform extracts to Excel out of the box - no IT interface required. Sophisticated reports can be quickly and easily developed using E9's Business Activity Queries (BAQ's) and Dashboards. Both of which can be learned and used by anyone that could in the past use MS Access or some of Excel's advanced functions. This limits IT involvement to only very complex report solutions (which can also be done using BAQ's and Dashboards, but may take a little more time to develop). The most obvious advantage comparing Epicor 9 to Avante for the customers that I have worked with is that making changes to process functionality using Business Process Methods (BPM's) does not inhibit the company from taking EVERY patch or upgrade that is offered. NO KNITTING. The BPM's, BAQ's and Dashboards (custom reports) are easily moved from the previously installed version to the next. So, every time a new release comes out, IT does a quick 1-2 set-up and test, training is developed and implemented for new product functionality associated with the new release (usually less than one week), critical users exercise and test the new version in the Pilot account, then the upgrade/patch is rolled out. We can take advantage of new functionality and bug fixes almost immediately (usually within 2-5 business days of roll-out) without worrying about which modifications might be stepped on or deleted. Sometimes the Epicor 9 experience can be very frustrating, but we
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Joe this is Will Johnson, you said that someone named Ivan would call me today. But no one has called me yet. 831 477 7125 -Original Message- From: Joseph Chelston j...@bsgstaffing.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:58 am Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position This position is located on the East Coast of the US I will be happy to discuss the full details of this position if you contact me directly. I respect your privacy. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter BSG Staffing Group LLC Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Susan Lynch sly...@fwdco.com wrote: Or at the very least, on a world-wide list like this, what continent it is on? (unless, of course, it is a tele-commutable opportunity) Susan Lynch - Original Message - From: Marc Harbeson marc.harbe...@gmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: 04/06/2011 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Can you at least say southern CA or northern NY or something in the ballpark of where on earth it is located? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Chelston Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:22 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position We are seeking a PICK Systems Administrator for a long term contract position. Due to confidentiality, we will not post specific details on this forum. Please email me if you are interested exploring. I'll be happy to give you the full details of this opportunity direct. Regards, Joe Chelston Executive Recruiter Phone: 856.218.1000 Fax: 856.228.8585 Cell: 856.422.4400 Email: j...@bsgstaffing.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Uh... um... *gazes blankly at the wall trying to find an excuse* -Original Message- From: fft2001 fft2...@aol.com To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 2:00 pm Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Joe this is Will Johnson, you said that someone named Ivan would call me today. But no one has called me yet. 831 477 7125 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition
So am I. ;-) Spoiling Epicor's easy profit making scheme that is. Before I started my current job the company I work for was spending tens if not hundreds of thousands of Pounds on Epicor consulting and project management services every year. Now Epicor don't get a penny and even lost the revenue from UD support! They were stupid enough to tell management they would stop development of Avante after release 9.5 trying to sell them on Vantage. The result being that the company is now switching to an Oracle based ERP system from another vendor because Vantage didn't cut to the chase then and as you admitted yourself neither does E9. The main division is still running on Avante 9.2, though! Who needs Epicor RD or consultants costing £1000 a day if one decent in house MV developer can modify a SB+ based package quickly and at low cost to whatever the company needs? BTW I use IBM Cognos for dashboards, KPIs and reporting these days. Not just with data from Avante but also from Oracle and SQL Server. Exporting data to Excel is child's play with SB+ too and even the guys on the shop floor are doing it without the help from IT. And the best thing is it's not relational but U2! On 06/04/2011 21:07, John Carter wrote: I'm no shill for Epicor, they usually regard me as competition for their consulting and project management services. I just thought that I would contribute about a topic that I was pretty familiar with. I thought that was part of value of this forum. Pardon me for interrupting. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g. Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me. On 06/04/2011 19:34, John Carter wrote: I don't usually contribute much to this forum - but I appreciate the chance to stay connected via the great posts here. In this case however, I do have some specific experience relative to this thread that might be beneficial to some. I've worked as a user, Epicor project manager/consultant, and independent ERP consultant since 1985 on several Dataworks/Interactive/Platinum/Epicor products including: DataFlo, Infoflo, and Avante (I've worked with Avante from the original release to the current version), and now Epicor 9. Relative to the Progress/SQL conversations: Epicor 9 can run on SQL or Progress, but our benchmark testing indicated much slower performance on a very beefy SQL machine. Processes, forms and reports were timed at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed that they run on an average Progress server. Additionally, Epicor wasted much of my customer's time claiming that the transition would be simple (it wasn't), and that SQL would be faster, or equal to Progress (it definitely wasn't). We gave up and stayed on Progress - but use SQL for our Replication Server. Regarding functionality - in my opinion Avante and DataFlo can still run circles around Epicor 9 in many applications - the E9 design and functionality is not as deep or well developed yet. However, it is getting most of Epicor's development resources and attention these days and is getting better quickly. I wouldn't advise most of my customers to make the leap yet (but maybe in a couple of years) from Avante/DataFlo to E9, but it was a natural evolution for my customer that was previously using Vista 8. In my opinion, the central benefit to E9 over Avante though is the ability to modify the functionality of the software without modifying the source code. They do this via Business Process Methods (BPM's) and Personalizations. Screen layout and fields are also very easy to modify. Extracting and presenting data is very straightforward and interfaces to MS products pretty seamlessly, in most cases users can perform extracts to Excel out of the box - no IT interface required. Sophisticated reports can be quickly and easily developed using E9's Business Activity Queries (BAQ's) and Dashboards. Both of which can be learned and used by anyone that could in the past use MS Access or some of Excel's advanced functions. This limits IT involvement to only very complex report solutions (which can also be done using BAQ's and Dashboards, but may take a little more time to develop). The most obvious advantage comparing Epicor 9 to Avante for the customers that I have worked with is that making changes to process functionality using Business Process Methods (BPM's) does not inhibit the company from taking EVERY patch or upgrade that is offered. NO KNITTING. The BPM's, BAQ's and Dashboards (custom reports) are easily moved from the previously installed version to the next. So, every time a new release comes out, IT does a quick 1-2 set-up and test, training is developed and
[U2] Databasic conversion
Hi I am looking at a little side project to convert an entire system written in databasic on D3 to run on unidata. The guy i work with says it is a couple of hours work - I am not so sure myself. Anyone done this and know what the 'gotchyas' are ? Cheers Symeon. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Databasic conversion
There is no SB involved correct? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am looking at a little side project to convert an entire system written in databasic on D3 to run on unidata. The guy i work with says it is a couple of hours work - I am not so sure myself. Anyone done this and know what the 'gotchyas' are ? Cheers Symeon. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Databasic conversion
Well, from D3 that would make sense. Sry. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com wrote: There is no SB involved correct? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am looking at a little side project to convert an entire system written in databasic on D3 to run on unidata. The guy i work with says it is a couple of hours work - I am not so sure myself. Anyone done this and know what the 'gotchyas' are ? Cheers Symeon. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Databasic conversion
No SB From: Steve Romanow [mailto:slestak...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 April 2011 22:15 To: U2 Users List Cc: Symeon Breen Subject: Re: [U2] Databasic conversion There is no SB involved correct? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am looking at a little side project to convert an entire system written in databasic on D3 to run on unidata. The guy i work with says it is a couple of hours work - I am not so sure myself. Anyone done this and know what the 'gotchyas' are ? Cheers Symeon. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3555 - Release Date: 04/06/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Databasic conversion
Symeon, It depends on how old the software is. As long as you run UD in Pick flavour and you have the source code Basic code shouldn't be much of a problem. If it compiles it will most likely work the same. And if the dictionaries use A and F correlatives they should be fine too. Procs usually also work fine even though some user exits may not work. Paragraphs will need some work. Usually no big deal. Mecki On 06/04/2011 22:14, Symeon Breen wrote: Hi I am looking at a little side project to convert an entire system written in databasic on D3 to run on unidata. The guy i work with says it is a couple of hours work - I am not so sure myself. Anyone done this and know what the 'gotchyas' are ? Cheers Symeon. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition
John: Don't let weisenheimers scare you away. Most of us appreciate thoughtful contributions; of which, yours was one. :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* jcar...@impactbuscon.com *To:* 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 4/6/2011 1:07 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re:PICKSystems Administratorposition I'm no shill for Epicor, they usually regard me as competition for their consulting and project management services. I just thought that I would contribute about a topic that I was pretty familiar with. I thought that was part of value of this forum. Pardon me for interrupting. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:01 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICKSystems Administratorposition You forgot the [AD] in the subject line g. Sound like an Epicor sales pitch to me. On 06/04/2011 19:34, John Carter wrote: I don't usually contribute much to this forum - but I appreciate the chance to stay connected via the great posts here. In this case however, I do have some specific experience relative to this thread that might be beneficial to some. I've worked as a user, Epicor project manager/consultant, and independent ERP consultant since 1985 on several Dataworks/Interactive/Platinum/Epicor products including: DataFlo, Infoflo, and Avante (I've worked with Avante from the original release to the current version), and now Epicor 9. Relative to the Progress/SQL conversations: Epicor 9 can run on SQL or Progress, but our benchmark testing indicated much slower performance on a very beefy SQL machine. Processes, forms and reports were timed at 1/2 to 1/4 the speed that they run on an average Progress server. Additionally, Epicor wasted much of my customer's time claiming that the transition would be simple (it wasn't), and that SQL would be faster, or equal to Progress (it definitely wasn't). We gave up and stayed on Progress - but use SQL for our Replication Server. Regarding functionality - in my opinion Avante and DataFlo can still run circles around Epicor 9 in many applications - the E9 design and functionality is not as deep or well developed yet. However, it is getting most of Epicor's development resources and attention these days and is getting better quickly. I wouldn't advise most of my customers to make the leap yet (but maybe in a couple of years) from Avante/DataFlo to E9, but it was a natural evolution for my customer that was previously using Vista 8. In my opinion, the central benefit to E9 over Avante though is the ability to modify the functionality of the software without modifying the source code. They do this via Business Process Methods (BPM's) and Personalizations. Screen layout and fields are also very easy to modify. Extracting and presenting data is very straightforward and interfaces to MS products pretty seamlessly, in most cases users can perform extracts to Excel out of the box - no IT interface required. Sophisticated reports can be quickly and easily developed using E9's Business Activity Queries (BAQ's) and Dashboards. Both of which can be learned and used by anyone that could in the past use MS Access or some of Excel's advanced functions. This limits IT involvement to only very complex report solutions (which can also be done using BAQ's and Dashboards, but may take a little more time to develop). The most obvious advantage comparing Epicor 9 to Avante for the customers that I have worked with is that making changes to process functionality using Business Process Methods (BPM's) does not inhibit the company from taking EVERY patch or upgrade that is offered. NO KNITTING. The BPM's, BAQ's and Dashboards (custom reports) are easily moved from the previously installed version to the next. So, every time a new release comes out, IT does a quick 1-2 set-up and test, training is developed and implemented for new product functionality associated with the new release (usually less than one week), critical users exercise and test the new version in the Pilot account, then the upgrade/patch is rolled out. We can take advantage of new functionality and bug fixes almost immediately (usually within 2-5 business days of roll-out) without worrying about which modifications might be stepped on or deleted. Sometimes the Epicor 9 experience can be very frustrating, but we believe that Epicor is going in the right direction and within a couple of years E9 will probably match Avante and DataFlo in functionality. In spite of some of the pain associated with being part of the rollout of a new(ish) product, the IT departments at my customers are GLAD that they are on Epicor 9. John H Carter III Impact Business Consulting Corporation Cell (760)
Re: [U2] Databasic conversion
Symeon: I converted our application from D3 to UniData. There was quite a bit of work. I believe I started in Dec 2005 and finished at the end of March 2006 (I had to work a lot of overtime), and beta tested through Aug 2006. We went live with one our clients in Sep 2006 and then 10 more moved over in Nov and Dec 2006. I spent the next six months moving most of the rest of our clients to UniData. I'd say I spent about a thousand man hours on this. It could have been half that, but I had no help from anyone (including IBM/RS) except Colin Alfke in Canada. I have a lot of emails on this, but the following is one in particular. HTH, Bill - Original Message - *From:* Bill Haskett *To:* 'Bob Little' *Date:* 2/28/2006 6:29 AM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Changes to mail list configurations We're mostly done but have spent about 140 man-days. We spent a fair amount of our time grinding away with the line editor. We were constantly editing data, dictionaries, VOC entries, and BASIC programs. We were able to port a few utilities to UD to help (a TCL shell, a file listing program, a dictionary listing program, and a screen-scroll program). We feel that we could have saved about 30% of our time if there was a decent screen editor, as the productivity was extremely low with the stone age line editor (AE). This would have saved us about 40 man-days! We spent about 20% of our time messing around with moving D3 to UV to UD and all subsequent data moves. This would have saved us around 30 man-days. There weren't too many surprises but there were some. Here are the major ones: 1) There was absolutely no interest by IBM in helping us, 2) There were absolutely no utilities to assist in the conversion. When I consulted at a large UD user they had converted from Sequoia several years before and they said there were numerous utilities that converted their dictionaries and BASIC programs. These were unavailable to us. 3) We had to convert to UV first then to UD...well, not actually. We had to move our data to UV, convert the dictionaries, then move to UD. However, we eventually found a utility to restore a D3 account to UniData, which helped tremendously during our client upgrades. 4) There is no (or virtually no) security in U2. It's handled by the O/S. 5) There are no users in U2. They're managed by the O/S. 6) UD requires a lot more interaction with the O/S. For instance, since UD has no 'Q' pointers you have to create file pointers using environment variables. In Windows, this requires the creation of the environment variables on the server...very strange. 7) There is no backup facility in UD. 8) I-Descriptors don't apply to each value in a multi-valued field. One has to mange the multi-values as though the dbms was never designed to have multi-values. There are separate functions for multi-values and if one uses a called subroutine, the subroutine has to manage the multi-values and return an MV array back. There are also some peculiarities to UD (things you wouldn't believe). For instance: 1) COPY MYFILE '1''2''3' TO:(ANOTHERFILE ...sometimes doesn't work at all. COPY, BASIC, CATALOG, DELETE-LIST, and numerous other VERBS can't handle multiple items in the command line. You have to SELECT the items first before executing these verbs. 2) You can't create an account from within UD. You have to open a DOS window, create a directory, and execute a DOS command from within this new directory. 3) A new UD account has all kinds of new UD files created within the account. Not really a big deal but surprising. 4) Managing your TERM settings is difficult. 5) Some default settings are weird. For instance, when compiling a BASIC program it gets globally compiled and cataloged...like a new MV user wants this by default?! :-) 6) Items in the SAVEDLISTS file have a number appended to the end so one won't be able to manage these without using the ...LIST commands. For instance SAVE-LIST BILL ends up in the SAVEDLISTS file as BILL000. Some other things to expect: + SAVED LISTS - In D3 you can SELECT-LIST ME YOU and you get a list of both lists. In UD you need to SELECT WHATEVER TO 1 then SELECT WHATEVER TO 2 then MERGE.LIST 1 UNION 2 TO 3 and hope it works. :-) - In other MV you can DELETE-LIST ME YOU and have them both deleted. - The lists have different keys than the list name. For instance if I do a SELECT VOC then SAVE-LIST BILL the item in the SAVEDLIST file will be named BILL000. So don't expect to be able to SELECT SAVEDLIST 'BILL' and get the list. - Be careful about using DIR files. They often have restrictions in what characters are allowed in the key. So, if you create some items in SAVEDLISTS that might look like special*bill*1*0 then this will have to be changed to something like special_bill_1_0. - When
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
ROTFL - it's just like that super bowl commercial - except it's real -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of fft2...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:02 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Uh... um... *gazes blankly at the wall trying to find an excuse* -Original Message- From: fft2001 fft2...@aol.com To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 2:00 pm Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Joe this is Will Johnson, you said that someone named Ivan would call me today. But no one has called me yet. 831 477 7125 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] NcMUG?
is there one anywhere around the Raleigh/Greensboro NC area? Or is there any interest in starting one up with me? if anyone is interested (or knows of one) please email me @ doug dot chanco at att.net thanks dougc ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] LogOut Cabbage Printer Segment Removed
In preparing to lodge a tech support incident with Rocket... I realized that MaryAnn's PC was running a way old version of Dynamic Connect (DC). I updated DC (to v.6.2.0) on her PC and all of the strange messages went away. --Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug)
Hey Dubya (lol), I don't think you want me to put this baby on the group - it's almost 19,000 lines of code and 700KB. There are several support files as well.If you can come up with a place where it will be easy to put it, I'd be glad to. I've always shared my stuff, always will. I won't get rich, but that's OK. Are you volunteering to put it all together where everyone can get to it? I can try to get it all together, but happily, I've been pretty busy lately, so I'm not sure when. I won't be able to provide support as such, but I'd be happy to try to help anyone who wants to use it. Heck, knowing people are using my programs is almost better than money, anyway. Regards, Charlie On 04-05-2011 12:40 PM, fft2...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2011 9:26:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cwn...@comcast.net writes: The main reason I won't change is because I use my own editor which started life 27 years ago. It does everything I want it to, and if I need something new, I just add it. Heck, it can even make coffee! Publish. We all want to see your ugly baby, so publish the code. Dubya ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug)
Charlie, if you want I can setup a ftp server on one of my domains that you could store all of your pretty awesome code at and make available to other users to download, if interested let's try and chat over the week-end dougc On 4/6/2011 10:05 PM, Charlie Noah wrote: Hey Dubya (lol), I don't think you want me to put this baby on the group - it's almost 19,000 lines of code and 700KB. There are several support files as well.If you can come up with a place where it will be easy to put it, I'd be glad to. I've always shared my stuff, always will. I won't get rich, but that's OK. Are you volunteering to put it all together where everyone can get to it? I can try to get it all together, but happily, I've been pretty busy lately, so I'm not sure when. I won't be able to provide support as such, but I'd be happy to try to help anyone who wants to use it. Heck, knowing people are using my programs is almost better than money, anyway. Regards, Charlie On 04-05-2011 12:40 PM, fft2...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2011 9:26:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cwn...@comcast.net writes: The main reason I won't change is because I use my own editor which started life 27 years ago. It does everything I want it to, and if I need something new, I just add it. Heck, it can even make coffee! Publish. We all want to see your ugly baby, so publish the code. Dubya ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug)
Charlie: Why not try PickWiki? Bill - Original Message - *From:* cwn...@comcast.net *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 4/6/2011 7:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug) Hey Dubya (lol), I don't think you want me to put this baby on the group - it's almost 19,000 lines of code and 700KB. There are several support files as well.If you can come up with a place where it will be easy to put it, I'd be glad to. I've always shared my stuff, always will. I won't get rich, but that's OK. Are you volunteering to put it all together where everyone can get to it? I can try to get it all together, but happily, I've been pretty busy lately, so I'm not sure when. I won't be able to provide support as such, but I'd be happy to try to help anyone who wants to use it. Heck, knowing people are using my programs is almost better than money, anyway. Regards, Charlie On 04-05-2011 12:40 PM, fft2...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2011 9:26:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cwn...@comcast.net writes: The main reason I won't change is because I use my own editor which started life 27 years ago. It does everything I want it to, and if I need something new, I just add it. Heck, it can even make coffee! Publish. We all want to see your ugly baby, so publish the code. Dubya ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug)
Or bitbucket. He said 19k lines of code. that would be painful on pickwiki On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net wrote: Charlie: Why not try PickWiki? Bill - Original Message - *From:* cwn...@comcast.net *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 4/6/2011 7:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug) Hey Dubya (lol), I don't think you want me to put this baby on the group - it's almost 19,000 lines of code and 700KB. There are several support files as well.If you can come up with a place where it will be easy to put it, I'd be glad to. I've always shared my stuff, always will. I won't get rich, but that's OK. Are you volunteering to put it all together where everyone can get to it? I can try to get it all together, but happily, I've been pretty busy lately, so I'm not sure when. I won't be able to provide support as such, but I'd be happy to try to help anyone who wants to use it. Heck, knowing people are using my programs is almost better than money, anyway. Regards, Charlie On 04-05-2011 12:40 PM, fft2...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2011 9:26:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cwn...@comcast.net writes: The main reason I won't change is because I use my own editor which started life 27 years ago. It does everything I want it to, and if I need something new, I just add it. Heck, it can even make coffee! Publish. We all want to see your ugly baby, so publish the code. Dubya ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug)
In a message dated 4/6/2011 7:06:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cwn...@comcast.net writes: Are you volunteering to put it all together where everyone can get to it? I can try to get it all together, but happily, I've been pretty busy lately, so I'm not sure when. I won't be able to provide support as such, but I'd be happy to try to help anyone who wants to use it. Heck, knowing people are using my programs is almost better than money, anyway. Yes. I have an autozipper and autounzipper/installer that runs inside Pick BASIC. It magically untangles all the code into the appropriate files, compiles what needs to be compiled and doesn't try to compile what isn't a program. Creates files that don't exist and populates them, etc etc etc. Wrote it about nine hundred years ago, but it still runs on any Pick implementation. I also have unlimited ftp space. Dubya. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position
Personally I think it's probably a smallish shop running some older version (I myself just encountered another MvBase believe it or don't). I wouldn't think Avante would be looking just for a Pick systems administrator, could be wrong. Probably the secrecy is due to the highly competitive nature of sharks when they smell blood. If the blood can be located to a particular town, for some towns, all the sharks know exactly who the victim is. So you don't say. Dubya ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position
Funny as heck. I started writing up a few brief notes on this thread, and immediately Epicor popped up as an Adsense advertiser in my margin. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
