Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers
Hi Gary Sadly the Basic ENCRYPT() function only does DES and RCn encryption. You should look at the Automatic Data Encryption features in the database itself - these are described in the security manual. That includes AES encryption, but you need to do careful planning and impact assessments before switching on ADE - it is not trivial and has ramifications. Otherwise you are probably looking at GCI or a service call to handle the encryption/decryption. Which product (UniVerse or UniData) and which platform (Windows/*nix) are you on? Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gary Heiman Sent: 03 May 2013 06:37 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers Hi folks - I'm new to this community, but aged in Multivalue Experience. Forgive me if this was aswered previously, but does anybody know of an algorithm in MV Basic to Encrypt/DeCrypt Credit Card Numbers based on one of the industry standards AES ? Thanks in advance ! Gary -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: U2-Users Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 Send U2-Users mailing list submissions to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org You can reach the person managing the list at u2-users-ow...@listserver.u2ug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of U2-Users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Allen Bell) 2. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Brian Whitehorn) 3. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Gregor Scott) 4. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Bill Haskett) 5. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Brian Whitehorn) 6. Re: History of Prime Information (Anthonys Lists) 7. Re: History of Prime Information (Wjhonson) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 15:15:54 -0500 From: Allen Bell apb...@psiwav.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? Message-ID: 518177fa.40...@psiwav.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I vote yes. Drives me crazy how it works AB On 5/1/2013 10:56 AM, Jeff Schasny wrote: That would be a nice feature. I do believe that it only processes files with a * or *SELECT dictionary item however. Gregor Scott wrote: I am trying to get Rocket to improve the behaviour of *HS.UPDFINFO to support active select lists so that only the files I want built into the .hs_fileinfo cache item (rather than have EVERY SINGLE F/Q-type item from the VOC included). Support inform me that I seem to be the only person interested in such a change, so I thought I would at least ask the question of the U2 community. Would anyone else find it useful to have the *HS.UPDFINFO command enhanced to support select lists, or have a new command created that deals with select lists? Thanks Gregor This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 09:04:21 +1000 From: Brian Whitehorn brian.whiteh...@tollgroup.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? Message-ID: 8B2F56DD2EABE24F998D2EF72FAE066F02A1147A@EXMDOV02.tollgroup.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +1 Dan, perhaps something along the lines of uservoice (www.uservoice.com) where votes and feedback can be collated might add additional value, this being a good example. Regards, Brian. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2013 3:29 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? I am trying to get Rocket to improve the behaviour of *HS.UPDFINFO to support active select lists so that only the files I want built into the .hs_fileinfo cache item (rather than have
Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers
Also If you are on linux you may be able to shell out to openssl to encrypt a string. You would probably need to use the -a switch to base64 encode the output. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: 03 May 2013 10:44 To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers Hi Gary Sadly the Basic ENCRYPT() function only does DES and RCn encryption. You should look at the Automatic Data Encryption features in the database itself - these are described in the security manual. That includes AES encryption, but you need to do careful planning and impact assessments before switching on ADE - it is not trivial and has ramifications. Otherwise you are probably looking at GCI or a service call to handle the encryption/decryption. Which product (UniVerse or UniData) and which platform (Windows/*nix) are you on? Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gary Heiman Sent: 03 May 2013 06:37 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers Hi folks - I'm new to this community, but aged in Multivalue Experience. Forgive me if this was aswered previously, but does anybody know of an algorithm in MV Basic to Encrypt/DeCrypt Credit Card Numbers based on one of the industry standards AES ? Thanks in advance ! Gary -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: U2-Users Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 Send U2-Users mailing list submissions to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org You can reach the person managing the list at u2-users-ow...@listserver.u2ug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of U2-Users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Allen Bell) 2. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Brian Whitehorn) 3. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Gregor Scott) 4. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Bill Haskett) 5. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Brian Whitehorn) 6. Re: History of Prime Information (Anthonys Lists) 7. Re: History of Prime Information (Wjhonson) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 15:15:54 -0500 From: Allen Bell apb...@psiwav.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? Message-ID: 518177fa.40...@psiwav.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I vote yes. Drives me crazy how it works AB On 5/1/2013 10:56 AM, Jeff Schasny wrote: That would be a nice feature. I do believe that it only processes files with a * or *SELECT dictionary item however. Gregor Scott wrote: I am trying to get Rocket to improve the behaviour of *HS.UPDFINFO to support active select lists so that only the files I want built into the .hs_fileinfo cache item (rather than have EVERY SINGLE F/Q-type item from the VOC included). Support inform me that I seem to be the only person interested in such a change, so I thought I would at least ask the question of the U2 community. Would anyone else find it useful to have the *HS.UPDFINFO command enhanced to support select lists, or have a new command created that deals with select lists? Thanks Gregor This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 09:04:21 +1000 From: Brian Whitehorn brian.whiteh...@tollgroup.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? Message-ID: 8B2F56DD2EABE24F998D2EF72FAE066F02A1147A@EXMDOV02.tollgroup.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +1 Dan, perhaps something along the lines of uservoice (www.uservoice.com) where votes and feedback can be collated might add additional value, this being a good example. Regards, Brian. -Original Message- From:
[U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
OK. I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one GPIO port. Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly. Do they make a device that when energized, will push a rod out then back? Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do That as it's primary function. George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a magnet, And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would push The other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it back When the eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:25 AM To: U2 Users Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one GPIO port. Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly. Do they make a device that when energized, will push a rod out then back? Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do That as it's primary function. George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solenoid Marc Rutherford Principal Programmer Analyst Advanced Bionics LLC 661) 362 1754 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:32 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a magnet, And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would push The other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it back When the eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:25 AM To: U2 Users Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one GPIO port. Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly. Do they make a device that when energized, will push a rod out then back? Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do That as it's primary function. George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
It's called a solenoid, and you can probably find one at your local electronics store... Larry Hiscock Western Computer Services -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:32 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a magnet, And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would push The other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it back When the eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:25 AM To: U2 Users Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one GPIO port. Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly. Do they make a device that when energized, will push a rod out then back? Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do That as it's primary function. George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
Ahh yes, the solenoid - couldn't think of the name. would make things easier. Thanks for the brain jump start. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Larry Hiscock Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? It's called a solenoid, and you can probably find one at your local electronics store... Larry Hiscock Western Computer Services -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:32 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a magnet, And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would push The other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it back When the eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:25 AM To: U2 Users Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one GPIO port. Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly. Do they make a device that when energized, will push a rod out then back? Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do That as it's primary function. George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
George: 1. Consider using a solid-state relay. 2. There has been much buzz over things like [a] Arduino and [b] littleBits. 3. I also like www.Mouser.com. --Bill On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote: OK. I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one GPIO port. Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly. Do they make a device that when energized, will push a rod out then back? Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do That as it's primary function. George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11015 Bingo. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:42 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Ahh yes, the solenoid - couldn't think of the name. would make things easier. Thanks for the brain jump start. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Larry Hiscock Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? It's called a solenoid, and you can probably find one at your local electronics store... Larry Hiscock Western Computer Services -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:32 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a magnet, And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would push The other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it back When the eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:25 AM To: U2 Users Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one GPIO port. Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly. Do they make a device that when energized, will push a rod out then back? Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do That as it's primary function. George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over solenoids. You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator (Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so long - same ideas/concerns apply). Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty picky. Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
magnetic solenoid and a return spring - Original Message - From: William Brutzman bi...@hkmetalcraft.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? George: 1. Consider using a solid-state relay. 2. There has been much buzz over things like [a] Arduino and [b] littleBits. 3. I also like www.Mouser.com. --Bill On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote: OK. I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one GPIO port. Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly. Do they make a device that when energized, will push a rod out then back? Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do That as it's primary function. George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
put a diode across the resistor to remove spikes - Original Message - From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over solenoids. You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator (Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so long - same ideas/concerns apply). Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty picky. Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? magnetic solenoid and a return spring - Original Message - From: William Brutzman bi...@hkmetalcraft.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? George: 1. Consider using a solid-state relay. 2. There has been much buzz over things like [a] Arduino and [b] littleBits. 3. I also like www.Mouser.com. --Bill On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote: OK. I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one GPIO port. Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly. Do they make a device that when energized, will push a rod out then back? Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do That as it's primary function. George ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
opps put a diode across the relay coil to remove spikes - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? put a diode across the resistor to remove spikes - Original Message - From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over solenoids. You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator (Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so long - same ideas/concerns apply). Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty picky. Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
dam resistors always getting in the way - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? put a diode across the resistor to remove spikes - Original Message - From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over solenoids. You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator (Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so long - same ideas/concerns apply). Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty picky. Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
That's their job. They are the anti-borg! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:13 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? dam resistors always getting in the way - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? put a diode across the resistor to remove spikes - Original Message - From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over solenoids. You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator (Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so long - same ideas/concerns apply). Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty picky. Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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40 K ? That seems so tiny -Original Message- From: u2-users-bounces u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org To: wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 9:14 am Subject: Your message to U2-Users awaits moderator approval Your mail to 'U2-Users' with the subject Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 46521 bytes with a limit of 40 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/confirm/u2-users/46c1bb56e98c4aa9b1285183674a36c9dad4127f ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
?? not sure what you mean by pull the button? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? magnetic solenoid and a return spring - Original Message - ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean. Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? ?? not sure what you mean by pull the button? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? magnetic solenoid and a return spring - Original Message - ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
It may come to pulling the buttons eventually - but for initially testing of the project The external pushing will work better, and doesn't break the device. I'm looking to automate A Blood pressure machine that has a USB interface - I'd rather not destroy it unless I Know it's possible to be able to automate this particular product. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on in the MV community :) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 03 May 2013 17:20 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean. Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? ?? not sure what you mean by pull the button? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? magnetic solenoid and a return spring - Original Message - ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
Is it a momentary switch? If so wire it in parallel. Either button or RPi could then fire it. George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com 5/3/2013 11:26 AM It may come to pulling the buttons eventually - but for initially testing of the project The external pushing will work better, and doesn't break the device. I'm looking to automate A Blood pressure machine that has a USB interface - I'd rather not destroy it unless I Know it's possible to be able to automate this particular product. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES_implementations Looks like no to me. Maybe someone could write one ? -Original Message- From: Gary Heiman gary.hei...@rocketmail.com To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 10:37 pm Subject: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers Hi folks - I'm new to this community, but aged in Multivalue Experience. Forgive me if this was aswered previously, but does anybody know of an algorithm in MV Basic to Encrypt/DeCrypt Credit Card Numbers based on one of the industry standards AES ? Thanks in advance ! Gary -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: U2-Users Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 Send U2-Users mailing list submissions to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org You can reach the person managing the list at u2-users-ow...@listserver.u2ug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of U2-Users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Allen Bell) 2. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Brian Whitehorn) 3. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Gregor Scott) 4. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Bill Haskett) 5. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Brian Whitehorn) 6. Re: History of Prime Information (Anthonys Lists) 7. Re: History of Prime Information (Wjhonson) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 15:15:54 -0500 From: Allen Bell apb...@psiwav.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? Message-ID: 518177fa.40...@psiwav.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I vote yes. Drives me crazy how it works AB On 5/1/2013 10:56 AM, Jeff Schasny wrote: That would be a nice feature. I do believe that it only processes files with a * or *SELECT dictionary item however. Gregor Scott wrote: I am trying to get Rocket to improve the behaviour of *HS.UPDFINFO to support active select lists so that only the files I want built into the .hs_fileinfo cache item (rather than have EVERY SINGLE F/Q-type item from the VOC included). Support inform me that I seem to be the only person interested in such a change, so I thought I would at least ask the question of the U2 community. Would anyone else find it useful to have the *HS.UPDFINFO command enhanced to support select lists, or have a new command created that deals with select lists? Thanks Gregor This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 09:04:21 +1000 From: Brian Whitehorn brian.whiteh...@tollgroup.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? Message-ID: 8B2F56DD2EABE24F998D2EF72FAE066F02A1147A@EXMDOV02.tollgroup.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +1 Dan, perhaps something along the lines of uservoice (www.uservoice.com) where votes and feedback can be collated might add additional value, this being a good example. Regards, Brian. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gregor Scott Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2013 3:29 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? I am trying to get Rocket to improve the behaviour of *HS.UPDFINFO to support active select lists so that only the files I want built into the .hs_fileinfo cache item (rather than have EVERY SINGLE F/Q-type item from the VOC included). Support inform me that I seem to be the only person interested in such a change, so I thought I would at least ask the question of the U2 community. Would anyone else find it useful to have the *HS.UPDFINFO command enhanced to support select lists, or have a new command created that deals with select lists? Thanks Gregor This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act
Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers
We are on universe... To avoid storing credit card information, you might consider what we did, which was to implement AdvancedWare Corporation's credit card interface that uses authorize.net for processing. We do not store any credit card information, just a token to authorize.net's system that tracks everything. The interface is used in telnet as well as being used on our webstore. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gary Heiman Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:37 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers Hi folks - I'm new to this community, but aged in Multivalue Experience. Forgive me if this was aswered previously, but does anybody know of an algorithm in MV Basic to Encrypt/DeCrypt Credit Card Numbers based on one of the industry standards AES ? Thanks in advance ! Gary _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com This email is intended only for the use of the party to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of the email or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately, by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. WARNING: Internet communications are not assured to be secure or clear of inaccuracies as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this email, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. _ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
Yeah, that would work as well - once I know it works. The unit I bought actually has an RS232 interface Vs USB - I'm hoping they also supply interfacing documentation as well. I've got a 12/5 volt power supply That was meant to power external 5 1/4 drives - so I'll use that to power the pi, and any other devices. What is nice, is I should be able to remove the batteries from the device as well, and power the BP machine With that power supply. As time goes on, I'm looking to interface in a Pulse Ox reader as well. And I'm Trying to design a medication administration device. Hooked together will import the SPO2 , HR and BP and If acceptable - deliver a medication, otherwise, send an email out. Seems like a nice project for a pi. The hardest part is trying to figure a way to dispense different shaped pills without having to have Some different dispenser for each sized/shape pill. If I use a circular type dispenser, it becomes difficult To store more than a weeks worth of pills (of the same type) in the circular dispenser. Some pills can be 2-3mm and circular in size, others could be 2cm and oblong. I've seen med delivery devices, but none that had any smarts as to not deliver. Should be nice project to learn using the pi and controlling things, as well have something functional That is needed when I'm done. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:29 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Is it a momentary switch? If so wire it in parallel. Either button or RPi could then fire it. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers
While ADE does take careful consideration, it really should be what you are doing. Encryption is hard. Using encryption primitives correctly is hard (ie, most people will get it wrong). Designing a secure encryption system realistical better than plaintext if your server or data is compromised is even harder. If you don't know the differences between CBC, ECB, CTR, OCB, CFB modes, when to use which one, and how certain modes lead to easily compromising the encryption, before reading this it is a good indication you should not attempt to do it yourself. ADE was designed by our in-house security expert and has many features (such as multiple keys, wallets) designed for properly protecting your data. Professional services can assist you setting up ADE if needed. Regards, Dan McGrath Managing Director, U2 Servers Lab Rocket Software 4600 South Ulster Street · Suite 1100 · Denver, CO 80237 · USA T: +1 720 475 8098 · E: dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com · W: u2.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 6:43 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers Also If you are on linux you may be able to shell out to openssl to encrypt a string. You would probably need to use the -a switch to base64 encode the output. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: 03 May 2013 10:44 To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers Hi Gary Sadly the Basic ENCRYPT() function only does DES and RCn encryption. You should look at the Automatic Data Encryption features in the database itself - these are described in the security manual. That includes AES encryption, but you need to do careful planning and impact assessments before switching on ADE - it is not trivial and has ramifications. Otherwise you are probably looking at GCI or a service call to handle the encryption/decryption. Which product (UniVerse or UniData) and which platform (Windows/*nix) are you on? Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gary Heiman Sent: 03 May 2013 06:37 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers Hi folks - I'm new to this community, but aged in Multivalue Experience. Forgive me if this was aswered previously, but does anybody know of an algorithm in MV Basic to Encrypt/DeCrypt Credit Card Numbers based on one of the industry standards AES ? Thanks in advance ! Gary -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: U2-Users Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 Send U2-Users mailing list submissions to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to u2-users-requ...@listserver.u2ug.org You can reach the person managing the list at u2-users-ow...@listserver.u2ug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of U2-Users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Allen Bell) 2. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Brian Whitehorn) 3. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Gregor Scott) 4. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Bill Haskett) 5. Re: Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? (Brian Whitehorn) 6. Re: History of Prime Information (Anthonys Lists) 7. Re: History of Prime Information (Wjhonson) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 15:15:54 -0500 From: Allen Bell apb...@psiwav.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Would anyone else like a change to *HS.UPDFINFO? Message-ID: 518177fa.40...@psiwav.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I vote yes. Drives me crazy how it works AB On 5/1/2013 10:56 AM, Jeff Schasny wrote: That would be a nice feature. I do believe that it only processes files with a * or *SELECT dictionary item however. Gregor Scott wrote: I am trying to get Rocket to improve the behaviour of *HS.UPDFINFO to support active select lists so that only the files I want built into the .hs_fileinfo cache item (rather than have EVERY SINGLE F/Q-type item from the VOC included). Support inform me that I seem to be the only person interested in such a change, so I thought I would at least ask
Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers
From: Wjhonson en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES_implementations Looks like no to me. Maybe someone could write one ? Yeah, and maybe someone could give the source away for free too, eh? Things like this shouldn't be built into a database. The database should call to well-maintained underlying utilities written by people who specialize in such things. That can be done with GCI or other mechanisms. If you do link with a dedicated solution, I know some people have expressed concern that simply by transferring credit card data into another tool the data is exposed. For example, the most naïve approach would be something like this: CMD = \aes.encrypt \ : INFO : \ result.file\ EXECUTE \sh -C \ : cmd CAPTURING OUT ; * ignore syntax READ ENCRYPTED FROM F.TMP,\result.file\ ... The problem there is that a hacker could put code into the system to log process activity. For example, the above commands would be openly visible to a ps auwx | grep encrypt. Some people like the idea of writing stuff to disk, processing it there, and then importing the results. But a simple file activity monitor could grab that data in the time it takes to process and delete it. Now someone could respond that if you have a hacker who can do that on your system that the gig is already up. Sure, but that's the nature of hacking, and blind confidence in security is exactly what leads to announcements in the nightly news, fines, and law suits. One disgruntled employee or consultant could easily accomplish that - attacks like this don't always come from outside. Just the concept of storage of credit cards brings up all kinds of warnings. There are laws and protocols for such things requiring a Lot of research and internal compliance - this game is not for amateurs. The bottom line is usually simply not to do that, which leads to authorize.net and similar solutions proposed in this thread. Don't accept cards in your own web pages for local storage, and don't allow customer service people to enter CC data in your green screen app. Use resources provided by professionals. Integrate. Everything doesn't need to be DIY. Shout out to Gary Heiman - wow dude, it's been more than 25 years... T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers
Tony, the link I posted has tons of free code. So giving it away for free is not anything new, although I know that attacking that idea is your own personal hobby horse :) I was just suggesting maybe there could also be a BASIC algorithm listed on that link, along with all the other ones listed. -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.com To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 11:57 am Subject: Re: [U2] AES Encryption Of CC Numbers From: Wjhonson en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AES_implementations Looks like no to me. Maybe someone could write one ? Yeah, and maybe someone could give the source away for free too, eh? Things like this shouldn't be built into a database. The database should call to well-maintained underlying utilities written by people who specialize in such things. That can be done with GCI or other mechanisms. If you do link with a dedicated solution, I know some people have expressed concern that simply by transferring credit card data into another tool the data is exposed. For example, the most naïve approach would be something like this: CMD = \aes.encrypt \ : INFO : \ result.file\ EXECUTE \sh -C \ : cmd CAPTURING OUT ; * ignore syntax READ ENCRYPTED FROM F.TMP,\result.file\ ... The problem there is that a hacker could put code into the system to log process activity. For example, the above commands would be openly visible to a ps auwx | grep encrypt. Some people like the idea of writing stuff to disk, processing it there, and then importing the results. But a simple file activity monitor could grab that data in the time it takes to process and delete it. Now someone could respond that if you have a hacker who can do that on your system that the gig is already up. Sure, but that's the nature of hacking, and blind confidence in security is exactly what leads to announcements in the nightly news, fines, and law suits. One disgruntled employee or consultant could easily accomplish that - attacks like this don't always come from outside. Just the concept of storage of credit cards brings up all kinds of warnings. There are laws and protocols for such things requiring a Lot of research and internal compliance - this game is not for amateurs. The bottom line is usually simply not to do that, which leads to authorize.net and similar solutions proposed in this thread. Don't accept cards in your own web pages for local storage, and don't allow customer service people to enter CC data in your green screen app. Use resources provided by professionals. Integrate. Everything doesn't need to be DIY. Shout out to Gary Heiman - wow dude, it's been more than 25 years... T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] FOSS
From: Wjhonson Tony, the link I posted has tons of free code. Just no MV BASIC implementation. So the tons of free code there has nothing to do with your suggestion that someone write something new. So giving it away for free is not anything new, although I know that attacking that idea is your own personal hobby horse :) I manage and/or contribute to freeware on Google Code, Codeplex, Sourceforge, GitHub, PickWiki, my own freeware page, and elsewhere. I also provide occasional forum support for various freeware projects and Android apps. It's easily evident that I don't have any axe to grind against freeware. I was just suggesting maybe there could also be a BASIC algorithm listed on that link, along with all the other ones listed. And I just have a visceral reaction when people _assume_ that something of value is going to be written on uncompensated time, given away for free, and then maintained at no cost by people who obviously derive commercial benefit. You mistake my pro-FOSS comments as attacks. The problem with the FOSS model is that it's horrendously abused by people who take but don't give back, by people who assume that there is no cost in terms of time or contributions, let alone money) for what they consume, but people who casually suggest that someone else will provide slave labor for the benefit of all. The FOSS world is a mass graveyard of dead projects abandoned by altruistic developers who've been abused by hoards of people who love their software creations - and when one developer is beaten down the locusts fly off to the next project. Our own community has hundreds of offerings that have suffered this fate. I support the model enough to point out its faults in the hope that good software doesn't go away because of the propagation of this inane idea that somehow it's all free - as in beer. One of the problems with this MV industry is that it's all about Take and not about Give. If this industry as a whole had a clue what FOSS was about (rather than just paying lip service) then we could be following the lead of many other platforms out there and attracting new developers. Far from attacking FOSS, I have strong objections to those who chronically don't understand how it works, especially when that erodes at our everyday business lives. _That_ is the hobby horse that I ride. T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] FOSS
Huh yes it does have to do with the suggestion that someone might want to write this in BASIC. So... it can be included... on that page. That's what it has to do with this. I personally Tony, have zero use or interest, in this code. However just like any list of implementations, whenever we do not have a BASIC one, we lose the war. That's always been my argument. If Pick wants more exposure, we need to expose it more. Not hide it. -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.com To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 1:12 pm Subject: Re: [U2] FOSS From: Wjhonson Tony, the link I posted has tons of free code. Just no MV BASIC implementation. So the tons of free code there has nothing to do with your suggestion that someone write something new. So giving it away for free is not anything new, although I know that attacking that idea is your own personal hobby horse :) I manage and/or contribute to freeware on Google Code, Codeplex, Sourceforge, GitHub, PickWiki, my own freeware page, and elsewhere. I also provide occasional forum support for various freeware projects and Android apps. It's easily evident that I don't have any axe to grind against freeware. I was just suggesting maybe there could also be a BASIC algorithm listed on that link, along with all the other ones listed. And I just have a visceral reaction when people _assume_ that something of value is going to be written on uncompensated time, given away for free, and then maintained at no cost by people who obviously derive commercial benefit. You mistake my pro-FOSS comments as attacks. The problem with the FOSS model is that it's horrendously abused by people who take but don't give back, by people who assume that there is no cost in terms of time or contributions, let alone money) for what they consume, but people who casually suggest that someone else will provide slave labor for the benefit of all. The FOSS world is a mass graveyard of dead projects abandoned by altruistic developers who've been abused by hoards of people who love their software creations - and when one developer is beaten down the locusts fly off to the next project. Our own community has hundreds of offerings that have suffered this fate. I support the model enough to point out its faults in the hope that good software doesn't go away because of the propagation of this inane idea that somehow it's all free - as in beer. One of the problems with this MV industry is that it's all about Take and not about Give. If this industry as a whole had a clue what FOSS was about (rather than just paying lip service) then we could be following the lead of many other platforms out there and attracting new developers. Far from attacking FOSS, I have strong objections to those who chronically don't understand how it works, especially when that erodes at our everyday business lives. _That_ is the hobby horse that I ride. T ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
just wire around it and leave the button in place - Original Message - From: George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? It may come to pulling the buttons eventually - but for initially testing of the project The external pushing will work better, and doesn't break the device. I'm looking to automate A Blood pressure machine that has a USB interface - I'd rather not destroy it unless I Know it's possible to be able to automate this particular product. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
Off subject but just stupid in my case, I lost vertical on my tv lst night. I opened it up found a bad cap in the vert supply 10uf at 100v and transposed the numbers when going throught the caps, inserted a 100uf 10v cap and blew the supply resistor. A new resistor ( why I have resistor on the brain today ) and the right cap and all is well. I seem to be transposing numbers a lot lately. Brain damage finally showing up. Robert - Original Message - From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on in the MV community :) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 03 May 2013 17:20 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean. Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? ?? not sure what you mean by pull the button? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? magnetic solenoid and a return spring - Original Message - ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
Have to say, I'm enjoying this line of conversation, too. I did some RD work with a guy who created a PC card that pretended to be RS232, so PICK could drive it, but actually drove a wireless. We did some pretty fun things with that device. It died due to problems getting permission to use a meaningful radio frequency for what they really wanted it for. I believe I have a floppy somewhere (probably not readable any more) with the BASIC code that drove the whole thing. Also have code that drove a Motorola pager from PICK. I have to agree that every once in a while it's fun to play around with something challenging and real, where digital and real worlds collide... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: May-03-13 2:03 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Off subject but just stupid in my case, I lost vertical on my tv lst night. I opened it up found a bad cap in the vert supply 10uf at 100v and transposed the numbers when going throught the caps, inserted a 100uf 10v cap and blew the supply resistor. A new resistor ( why I have resistor on the brain today ) and the right cap and all is well. I seem to be transposing numbers a lot lately. Brain damage finally showing up. Robert - Original Message - From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on in the MV community :) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 03 May 2013 17:20 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean. Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? ?? not sure what you mean by pull the button? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? magnetic solenoid and a return spring - Original Message - ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
I agree with your approach: prototype the button-pusher with a solenoid to ensure your idea works *before* you tear apart the working hardware -- a normal engineering approach. Be sure to use a diode across the solenoid coil as was suggested elsewhere. If you're unsure of a circuit, I'm sure many of us could provide one if you ask. Good luck! Stewart ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
So, the $20 question... For this part, you may have found it locally at a Radio Shack, had some parts laying around, or ??? Here outside Philadelphia, I continue to seek a parts supplier that doesn't have a $20 minimum order for parts not normally stocked. Even that was from an internet parts supplier, so it's hurry up and wait. Haven't found any other local brick and mortar (outside Philadelphia) stores. If not at Radio Shack, where are you getting parts and skirting the shipping, waiting, and minimum order? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 5:03 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Off subject but just stupid in my case, I lost vertical on my tv lst night. I opened it up found a bad cap in the vert supply 10uf at 100v and transposed the numbers when going throught the caps, inserted a 100uf 10v cap and blew the supply resistor. A new resistor ( why I have resistor on the brain today ) and the right cap and all is well. I seem to be transposing numbers a lot lately. Brain damage finally showing up. Robert - Original Message - From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on in the MV community :) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: 03 May 2013 17:20 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean. Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:18 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? ?? not sure what you mean by pull the button? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button and wire in a solid state relay. - Original Message - From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers? magnetic solenoid and a return spring - Original Message - ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?
Both adafruit.com and spark fun.com carry solenoids that will work and they also have tutorials that'll help. Amazon also has lots of stuff if you already kinda know what you want. If you want things that'll interface with a micro like the RPi or Arduino, just put in a search for 'arduino solenoid' and you'll get a fair number of hits. Stewart On May 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net wrote: So, the $20 question... For this part, you may have found it locally at a Radio Shack, had some parts laying around, or ??? Here outside Philadelphia, I continue to seek a parts supplier that doesn't have a $20 minimum order for parts not normally stocked. Even that was from an internet parts supplier, so it's hurry up and wait. Haven't found any other local brick and mortar (outside Philadelphia) stores. If not at Radio Shack, where are you getting parts and skirting the shipping, waiting, and minimum order? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
