Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Maybe it's a good thing you're not interviewing me, Kevin. My immediate answer would be I don't know. Let me check the documentation and get back to you. I've never had to do anything like that so it's not something I'd know off the top of my head. I'm sure there's probably and OCONV format that would get me started but. Oh! I know! I'd as this list! silly smile Does that count? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:15 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions David, I've used many of these questions in the past but where it fell down was that it didn't give any real picture of technical ability. The one question I've been using lately to assess technical thinking is how would you calculate the last Thursday in a month? The answers have been everywhere from accurate to sheer ridiculous. The unexpected takeaway from this question is that it has helped to identify people who simply want to answer quickly without thinking - not a good trait unless the answer is right and to date that's happened a total of zero times - vs people who think first and then give a reasoned response. I've just found it too easy for people to stretch the truth when explaining their technical ability, so I'm asking questions intended to give some evidence. On Saturday, December 14, 2013, David Sharp wrote: Here is something I have used: What single project or task would you consider the most significant accomplishment in your career so far? * Can you give me a detailed overview of the accomplishment? * Tell me about the company, your title, your position, your role, and the team involved. * What were the actual results achieved? * When did it take place and how long did the project take. * Why you were chosen? * What were the 3-4 biggest challenges you faced and how did you deal with them? * Where did you go the extra mile or take the initiative? * Walk me through the plan, how you managed to it, and if it was successful. * Describe the environment and resources. * Describe your manager's style and whether you liked it or not. * Describe the technical skills needed to accomplish the objective and how they were used. * Some of the biggest mistakes you made. * Aspects of the project you truly enjoyed. * Aspects you didn't especially care about and how you handled them. * How you managed and influenced other, with lots of examples. * How you changed and grew as a person. * What you would do differently if you could do it again. * What type of formal recognition did your receive? Regards, David Sharp Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:27:18 -0800 From: i...@keyway.net javascript:; To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Please email me in regards to your ads. I am currently in between contracts/assignments/projects and looking for my next assignment. Multivalue languages I have been programming in: * CACHE (language: MV BASIC) * INFORMATION (language: INFO/BASIC) * jBASE (language: jBC, jBASE BASIC, jBASIC) * MENTOR System (language: DATA/BASIC, DATABASIC, DATA BASIC) * MVENTERPRISE (language: MVENTERPRISE BASIC) * MVON/ONWARE (language: ONWARE BASIC) * OPENINSIGHT (language: BASIC+) * OPENQM, QM (language: QMBASIC) * PICK, Advanced PICK, D3 (language: PICK BASIC) * Power95 (language: DATA/BASIC, DATABASIC, DATA BASIC) * REALITY System (language: DATA/BASIC, DATABASIC, DATA BASIC) * REVELATION, Advanced REVELATION (language: R/BASIC, REVELATION BASIC) * UNIDATA (language: UNIBASIC) * UNIVERSE (language: UNIVERSE BASIC) * UNIVISION (language: UVBASIC) * WebSphere DataStage (language: DSBASIC, DataStage BASIC) Robert Norman, Multivalue Programmer/Analyst (951) 541-1668 On 10/7/2013 7:35 PM, Kevin King wrote: This is not specifically a job posting, but I do have ads up on Monster and LinkedIn looking for talent. At the risk of confessing too much, I have historically been far too easy in the interview process. As a result, I have had some less-than-excellent hires and spent far too much time and money trying to rescue underperforming and/or recalcitrant staff. Therefore, I'm planning to be much more discriminating this time around, and am building a series of technical questions to help quickly identify those that have the right skills, abilities, and attitude for our team compared to those who may not. That being said, I have a question for the group: Technical questions aside, what are the best interview questions you've asked, been asked, or otherwise heard about that help differentiate between the candidates worthy of additional consideration vs. those that are not? Each company is different of course, but that aside I'm hoping to
Re: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux
Peter: Thanks... I will try this... --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cheney Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:35 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux How about making a copy of the cd/dvd to an iso and installing from that? Somewhere in *nix land where it's easier to mount and use the cd... # dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/var/tmp/uv.iso bs=8000 transport the resulting ISO to your HPUX machine # mount -F lofs /some/dir/to/uv.iso /tmp/mount You should then be able to cd to /tmp/mount and run the cpio command as root (or uvadm?) and follow the install instructions for hpux. # cpio -ivcBdum uv.load ./STARTUP # ./uv.load -longnames HTH Peter Peter Cheney Ultracs Developer t 07 3017 8837 | f 07 3002 8400 e peter.che...@firstmac.com.au w firstmac.com.au -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of William Brutzman Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2013 10:49 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux 1. I am having some problems trying to get to first base. 2. There is this cpio command. 3. Is it necessary to install from a CD or DVD? 4. I would rather install from FTP'd files. 5. Mounting the media is a hassle... so is CDFS on a DVD. 6. Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- Note: This email (inc all attachments) is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. Privileged or confidential information may be contained in this communication. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete all copies of this message from your computer network. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this email without the author's prior permission. If you are the intended recipient and you do not wish to receive similar electronic messages from us in future, then please respond to the sender to this effect. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, but advise you to carry out your own virus checks on this email and its attachments. We do not accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses and do not represent that this transmission is free from viruses or other defects. Firstmac Limited (ABN 59 094 145 963) (AFSL 290600) --- ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux
Also, check your uv.load to see if it does an uncompress Then make sure your OS has that command If not, I changed mine from uncompress to gunzip in the uv.load I guess you could also cp gunzip uncompress as well To make things easier if you have a problem. Make a copy of the uv.load to something like uv.load.bu This way if the install fails, you won't have to cpio it back off The CD (just cp it from uv.load.bu to uv.load) George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:54 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux Peter: Thanks... I will try this... --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cheney Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:35 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux How about making a copy of the cd/dvd to an iso and installing from that? Somewhere in *nix land where it's easier to mount and use the cd... # dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/var/tmp/uv.iso bs=8000 transport the resulting ISO to your HPUX machine # mount -F lofs /some/dir/to/uv.iso /tmp/mount You should then be able to cd to /tmp/mount and run the cpio command as root (or uvadm?) and follow the install instructions for hpux. # cpio -ivcBdum uv.load ./STARTUP # ./uv.load -longnames HTH Peter Peter Cheney Ultracs Developer t 07 3017 8837 | f 07 3002 8400 e peter.che...@firstmac.com.au w firstmac.com.au -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of William Brutzman Sent: Saturday, 14 December 2013 10:49 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux 1. I am having some problems trying to get to first base. 2. There is this cpio command. 3. Is it necessary to install from a CD or DVD? 4. I would rather install from FTP'd files. 5. Mounting the media is a hassle... so is CDFS on a DVD. 6. Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- Note: This email (inc all attachments) is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. Privileged or confidential information may be contained in this communication. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete all copies of this message from your computer network. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this email without the author's prior permission. If you are the intended recipient and you do not wish to receive similar electronic messages from us in future, then please respond to the sender to this effect. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, but advise you to carry out your own virus checks on this email and its attachments. We do not accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses and do not represent that this transmission is free from viruses or other defects. Firstmac Limited (ABN 59 094 145 963) (AFSL 290600) --- ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UniVerse Install on HP-Ux
On 16/12/2013 18:14, George Gallen wrote: Also, check your uv.load to see if it does an uncompress Then make sure your OS has that command If not, I changed mine from uncompress to gunzip in the uv.load I guess you could also cp gunzip uncompress as well Ummm. If you've got that problem ... I know when I was installing it, I was installing it on SuSE, for which it isn't certified. And the options to cpio changed - the default of some option was inverted! - so with UV certified for the old cpio and me running the new one, it was quite a mess :-) But at the end of the day it was pretty easy to go in and edit the script. Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Asking the list...I'd label that as resourceful. So yeah, that's a positive. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.comwrote: Maybe it's a good thing you're not interviewing me, Kevin. My immediate answer would be I don't know. Let me check the documentation and get back to you. I've never had to do anything like that so it's not something I'd know off the top of my head. I'm sure there's probably and OCONV format that would get me started but. Oh! I know! I'd as this list! silly smile Does that count? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:15 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions David, I've used many of these questions in the past but where it fell down was that it didn't give any real picture of technical ability. The one question I've been using lately to assess technical thinking is how would you calculate the last Thursday in a month? The answers have been everywhere from accurate to sheer ridiculous. The unexpected takeaway from this question is that it has helped to identify people who simply want to answer quickly without thinking - not a good trait unless the answer is right and to date that's happened a total of zero times - vs people who think first and then give a reasoned response. I've just found it too easy for people to stretch the truth when explaining their technical ability, so I'm asking questions intended to give some evidence. On Saturday, December 14, 2013, David Sharp wrote: Here is something I have used: What single project or task would you consider the most significant accomplishment in your career so far? * Can you give me a detailed overview of the accomplishment? * Tell me about the company, your title, your position, your role, and the team involved. * What were the actual results achieved? * When did it take place and how long did the project take. * Why you were chosen? * What were the 3-4 biggest challenges you faced and how did you deal with them? * Where did you go the extra mile or take the initiative? * Walk me through the plan, how you managed to it, and if it was successful. * Describe the environment and resources. * Describe your manager's style and whether you liked it or not. * Describe the technical skills needed to accomplish the objective and how they were used. * Some of the biggest mistakes you made. * Aspects of the project you truly enjoyed. * Aspects you didn't especially care about and how you handled them. * How you managed and influenced other, with lots of examples. * How you changed and grew as a person. * What you would do differently if you could do it again. * What type of formal recognition did your receive? Regards, David Sharp Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:27:18 -0800 From: i...@keyway.net javascript:; To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Please email me in regards to your ads. I am currently in between contracts/assignments/projects and looking for my next assignment. Multivalue languages I have been programming in: * CACHE (language: MV BASIC) * INFORMATION (language: INFO/BASIC) * jBASE (language: jBC, jBASE BASIC, jBASIC) * MENTOR System (language: DATA/BASIC, DATABASIC, DATA BASIC) * MVENTERPRISE (language: MVENTERPRISE BASIC) * MVON/ONWARE (language: ONWARE BASIC) * OPENINSIGHT (language: BASIC+) * OPENQM, QM (language: QMBASIC) * PICK, Advanced PICK, D3 (language: PICK BASIC) * Power95 (language: DATA/BASIC, DATABASIC, DATA BASIC) * REALITY System (language: DATA/BASIC, DATABASIC, DATA BASIC) * REVELATION, Advanced REVELATION (language: R/BASIC, REVELATION BASIC) * UNIDATA (language: UNIBASIC) * UNIVERSE (language: UNIVERSE BASIC) * UNIVISION (language: UVBASIC) * WebSphere DataStage (language: DSBASIC, DataStage BASIC) Robert Norman, Multivalue Programmer/Analyst (951) 541-1668 On 10/7/2013 7:35 PM, Kevin King wrote: This is not specifically a job posting, but I do have ads up on Monster and LinkedIn looking for talent. At the risk of confessing too much, I have historically been far too easy in the interview process. As a result, I have had some less-than-excellent hires and spent far too much time and money trying to rescue underperforming and/or recalcitrant staff. Therefore, I'm planning to be much more discriminating this time around, and am building a series of technical questions to help quickly identify those that have the right skills, abilities, and attitude for our team compared to those who may not. That being said, I have a question for the group:
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
I can answer this easily What single project or task would you consider the most significant accomplishment in your career so far? Building a Microsoft network in Australia from scratch and VPN'ing it into Midvale, Utah for access to the ERP Unidata database Can you give me a detailed overview of the accomplishment? A) Plan the Microsoft network for 10 workstations including MS Exchange, MS office, Windows 8, Rocket Wintegrate Scope out international internet provider with stable 2 to 10 mb access to USA Figure into the mix 220vac for all devices. Lock down domain name for exchange server Order hardware and software B) Set a work area aside in the USA plant Assemble the server MS Windows Server 2012 Program the router to an existing unused public ip address for testing and patches Setup Domain and users on the server Install MS Exchange 2013 Point local public ip address dns mx record to the new router and route to exchange Setup workstations Install MS Office Install wintegrate Temp build vpn tunnel from sub network to internal network and test access to Unidata database C) Package up nice and neat and ship to Australia, this portion of project too one week D) Fly to Australia and setup network E) Unpack hardware and setup offices Wire network, workstations, printers Reprogramm router for new ip addresses Repoint dns to new public ip addresses Repoint Windows Server 2012 dns Wait for DNS replication across the web to complete ( 24 hours) Test exchange incomming and outgoing transports. Login users Test Outlook Test connectivity across secure vpn to USA ERP Unidata database test printing for USA Unidata to the Australia office printer Train Users on network. F) Go home Tell me about the company, your title, your position, your role, and the team involved. IS Manager Know it all Determine IS stratagy Build and maintain the network Build better mouse traps What were the actual results achieved? Aside from the planning, entire network was built and installed in two three weeks All tasks were completed When did it take place and how long did the project take. Last week Two months in planning three weeks to implement Why you were chosen? Already built two other international networks in the last 18 years What were the 3-4 biggest challenges you faced and how did you deal with them? Never install Windows Server 2012 or Exchange 2013 before Never created a master domain from scratch, just administrated them. Programming the Cisco 887 router for private internet acess for the workstations and secure vpn tunnel connection to the USA Where did you go the extra mile or take the initiative? Learned and implemented Exchange 2013 Walk me through the plan, how you managed to it, and if it was successful. The plan was detailed above. Completely successful, failure is not an option. Describe the environment and resources. International Internet 220vac * Describe your manager's style and whether you liked it or not. My manager is my CEO I follow thru on all my projects Describe the technical skills needed to accomplish the objective and how they were used. Cisco router configuration Cisco secure vpn tunnel configuration Windows server 2012 installation Windows exchange 2013 installation Windows domain controller setup Windows domain login scripts ip addressing conventions dns setup Some of the biggest mistakes you made. Corrupted the first install of Exchange, messed up all the right but made a backup bgefore I did it, saved the day. Corrupted the Microsoft exchange certificate, could not log into MS Exchange administration but fixed it through IIS Did not setup the outgoing mail connector proper, took a while to find my error. Aspects of the project you truly enjoyed. The pressure to complete within my alloted time frame Aspects you didn't especially care about and how you handled them. Getting Australia to give me a stable internet connection, bugged them a lot. 18hour flight to australia, slept How you managed and influenced other, with lots of examples. Managed Internet providers Managed hardware providers Patience and knowledge of exactly what I need and conveying that to my suppliers How you changed and grew as a person. Cann successfull add Microsoft Windows server 2012 and MS Exchange 2013 installation and configuration to my knowledge base What you would do differently if you could do it again. Increase my installation window to two weeks at the remote site. What type of formal recognition did your receive? Appreciation from my CEO I completed another task It's all fun and games Robert - Original Message - From: Kevin King ke...@precisonline.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Asking the list...I'd label that as resourceful. So yeah, that's a positive. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Woodward,
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
What is the last Thursday of the current month. Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number with 01 with Iconv that. Now take that internal date and add 32, this will *always* put you exactly into the next month somewhere. Now oconv that date D2/ and replace the middle number with 01 which will always put on the first of next month Now if the DOW number is larger than Thursday subtract the difference If its less than Thursday subtract that number and an extra 2 to get to last Thursday -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Build an API to Mechanical Turk. neededDate = Mech_Turk(In /mm/dd format, what is the last Thursday of :month: :year) Hmmm - I guess that's why I don't code anymore ;) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 3:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Asking the list...I'd label that as resourceful. So yeah, that's a positive. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.comwrote: Maybe it's a good thing you're not interviewing me, Kevin. My immediate answer would be I don't know. Let me check the documentation and get back to you. I've never had to do anything like that so it's not something I'd know off the top of my head. I'm sure there's probably and OCONV format that would get me started but. Oh! I know! I'd as this list! silly smile Does that count? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:15 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions David, I've used many of these questions in the past but where it fell down was that it didn't give any real picture of technical ability. The one question I've been using lately to assess technical thinking is how would you calculate the last Thursday in a month? The answers have been everywhere from accurate to sheer ridiculous. The unexpected takeaway from this question is that it has helped to identify people who simply want to answer quickly without thinking - not a good trait unless the answer is right and to date that's happened a total of zero times - vs people who think first and then give a reasoned response. I've just found it too easy for people to stretch the truth when explaining their technical ability, so I'm asking questions intended to give some evidence. On Saturday, December 14, 2013, David Sharp wrote: Here is something I have used: What single project or task would you consider the most significant accomplishment in your career so far? * Can you give me a detailed overview of the accomplishment? * Tell me about the company, your title, your position, your role, and the team involved. * What were the actual results achieved? * When did it take place and how long did the project take. * Why you were chosen? * What were the 3-4 biggest challenges you faced and how did you deal with them? * Where did you go the extra mile or take the initiative? * Walk me through the plan, how you managed to it, and if it was successful. * Describe the environment and resources. * Describe your manager's style and whether you liked it or not. * Describe the technical skills needed to accomplish the objective and how they were used. * Some of the biggest mistakes you made. * Aspects of the project you truly enjoyed. * Aspects you didn't especially care about and how you handled them. * How you managed and influenced other, with lots of examples. * How you changed and grew as a person. * What you would do differently if you could do it again. * What type of formal recognition did your receive? Regards, David Sharp Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:27:18 -0800 From: i...@keyway.net javascript:; To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org javascript:; Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Please email me in regards to your ads. I am currently in between contracts/assignments/projects and looking for my next assignment. Multivalue languages I have been programming in: * CACHE (language: MV BASIC) * INFORMATION (language: INFO/BASIC) * jBASE (language: jBC, jBASE BASIC, jBASIC) * MENTOR System (language: DATA/BASIC, DATABASIC, DATA BASIC) * MVENTERPRISE (language: MVENTERPRISE BASIC) * MVON/ONWARE (language: ONWARE BASIC) * OPENINSIGHT (language: BASIC+) * OPENQM, QM (language: QMBASIC)
[U2] Tech Alert *TURN YOUR GADGETS OFF* before you get hacked
Tech Alert *TURN YOUR GADGETS OFF* before you get hacked http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/dn261332 :shock: hacker's found a way to get inside your gadgets and take control of your computer this explains how i got hacked last month - my computer was acting odd and really slow - the hard drive was thrashing like crazy and i knew something wasn't right so i walked to the wireless router and pulled the power cord. did a full disk virus scan and had a couple of really nasty trojans and 250+ spyware apps all active at the same time. wonder WHY it was so slow! :lol: they also got my password to my roadrunner email and started blasting spam, i started getting mail delivery failures, put 2+2=5 together and changed my password. after that i immediately got a spam - kinda like a nanner nanner we got you thing. gadgets off now. i miss them already. the clock gadget disappeared and i started looking around to see what was up and found this alert by Microsoft you know, you'd a thunk maybe they'd let us know??? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Except, Will, the question did not ask for current month. Rather it asked for a month. Similar, yes, but a different request. On Monday, December 16, 2013, Wjhonson wrote: What is the last Thursday of the current month. Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number with 01 with Iconv that. Now take that internal date and add 32, this will *always* put you exactly into the next month somewhere. Now oconv that date D2/ and replace the middle number with 01 which will always put on the first of next month Now if the DOW number is larger than Thursday subtract the difference If its less than Thursday subtract that number and an extra 2 to get to last Thursday -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com javascript:; To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org javascript:; Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Build an API to Mechanical Turk. neededDate = Mech_Turk(In /mm/dd format, what is the last Thursday of :month: :year) Hmmm - I guess that's why I don't code anymore ;) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 3:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Asking the list...I'd label that as resourceful. So yeah, that's a positive. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.comwrote: Maybe it's a good thing you're not interviewing me, Kevin. My immediate answer would be I don't know. Let me check the documentation and get back to you. I've never had to do anything like that so it's not something I'd know off the top of my head. I'm sure there's probably and OCONV format that would get me started but. Oh! I know! I'd as this list! silly smile Does that count? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:15 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions David, I've used many of these questions in the past but where it fell down was that it didn't give any real picture of technical ability. The one question I've been using lately to assess technical thinking is how would you calculate the last Thursday in a month? The answers have been everywhere from accurate to sheer ridiculous. The unexpected takeaway from this question is that it has helped to identify people who simply want to answer quickly without thinking - not a good trait unless the answer is right and to date that's happened a total of zero times - vs people who think first and then give a reasoned response. I've just found it too easy for people to stretch the truth when explaining their technical ability, so I'm asking questions intended to give some evidence. On Saturday, December 14, 2013, David Sharp wrote: Here is something I have used: What single project or task would you consider the most significant accomplishment in your career so far? * Can you give me a detailed overview of the accomplishment? * Tell me about the company, your title, your position, your role, and the team involved. * What were the actual results achieved? * When did it take place and how long did the project take. * Why you were chosen? * What were the 3-4 biggest challenges you faced and how did you deal with them? * Where did you go the extra mile or take the initiative? * Walk me through the plan, how you managed to it, and if it was successful. * Describe the environment and resources. * Describe your manager's style and whether you liked it or not. * Describe the technical skills needed to accomplish the objective and how they were used. * Some of the biggest mistakes you made. * Aspects of the ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
This would work for the last of the previous month
But I also needed to consult the manual for the correct date conversions...
Get internal date for 1st of current month.
Subtract 1 gets you internal end date of previous month
Loop until numeric day of week = 4 (assuming Monday is 1)
Subtract 1 from internal end date of previous month
Repeat
e.g.
code
* Date format is DD/MM/
CurrentMonth = oconv(date(), 'DM')
CurrentYear = oconv(date(), 'DY4')
InternalFirstThisMonth = iconv('1/':CurrentMonth:'/':CurrentYear, 'D4/')
InternalLastPreviousMonth = InternalFirstThisMonth - 1
loop
IsThisThursday = (oconv(InternalLastPreviousMonth, 'DW') = 4)
until IsThisThursday do
InternalLastPreviousMonth -= 1
repeat
if IsThisThursday then crt oconv(InternalLastPreviousMonth, 'D4')
/code
Peter Cheney
Ultracs Developer
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-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 10:17
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
What is the last Thursday of the current month.
Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of
the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number
with 01 with Iconv that.
Now take that internal date and add 32, this will *always* put you exactly into
the next month somewhere.
Now oconv that date D2/ and replace the middle number with 01 which will always
put on the first of next month
Now if the DOW number is larger than Thursday subtract the difference If its
less than Thursday subtract that number and an extra 2 to get to last Thursday
-Original Message-
From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Build an API to Mechanical Turk.
neededDate = Mech_Turk(In /mm/dd format, what is the last Thursday
of :month: :year)
Hmmm - I guess that's why I don't code anymore ;)
-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org]
On Behalf Of Kevin King
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 3:22 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Asking the list...I'd label that as resourceful. So yeah, that's a positive.
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Woodward, Bob
bob_woodw...@k2sports.comwrote:
Maybe it's a good thing you're not interviewing me, Kevin. My
immediate answer would be I don't know. Let me check the
documentation and get back to you. I've never had to do anything
like that so it's not something I'd know off the top of my head. I'm
sure there's probably and OCONV format that would get me started but.
Oh! I know! I'd as this list! silly smile Does that count?
-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:15 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
David, I've used many of these questions in the past but where it fell
down was that it didn't give any real picture of technical ability.
The one question I've been using lately to assess technical thinking
is how would you calculate the last Thursday in a month? The answers
have been everywhere from accurate to sheer ridiculous. The unexpected
takeaway from this question is that it has helped to identify people
who simply want to answer quickly without thinking - not a good trait
unless the answer is right and to date that's happened a total of zero
times - vs people who think first and then give a reasoned response.
I've just found it too easy for people to stretch the truth when
explaining their technical ability, so I'm asking questions intended
to give some evidence.
On Saturday, December 14, 2013, David Sharp wrote:
Here is something I have used:
What single project
or task would you consider the most significant accomplishment in
your
career so far?
*
Can you give me a detailed overview of the accomplishment?
*
Tell me about the company, your title, your position, your role, and
the team involved.
*
What were the actual results achieved?
*
When did it take place and how long did the project take.
*
Why you were chosen?
*
What were the 3-4 biggest challenges you faced and how did you deal
with them?
*
Where did you go the extra mile or take the initiative?
*
Walk me through the plan, how you managed to it, and if it was
successful.
*
Describe the environment and resources.
*
Describe your manager's style and whether you liked it or not.
*
Describe the technical skills needed to accomplish the objective and
how they were used.
*
Some
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Replace current date with Any date The logic is exactly the same -Original Message- From: Kevin King ke...@precisonline.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Except, Will, the question did not ask for current month. Rather it asked for a month. Similar, yes, but a different request. On Monday, December 16, 2013, Wjhonson wrote: What is the last Thursday of the current month. Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number with 01 with Iconv that. Now take that internal date and add 32, this will *always* put you exactly into the next month somewhere. Now oconv that date D2/ and replace the middle number with 01 which will always put on the first of next month Now if the DOW number is larger than Thursday subtract the difference If its less than Thursday subtract that number and an extra 2 to get to last Thursday -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com javascript:; To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org javascript:; Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 2:55 pm Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Build an API to Mechanical Turk. neededDate = Mech_Turk(In /mm/dd format, what is the last Thursday of :month: :year) Hmmm - I guess that's why I don't code anymore ;) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 3:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Asking the list...I'd label that as resourceful. So yeah, that's a positive. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Woodward, Bob bob_woodw...@k2sports.comwrote: Maybe it's a good thing you're not interviewing me, Kevin. My immediate answer would be I don't know. Let me check the documentation and get back to you. I've never had to do anything like that so it's not something I'd know off the top of my head. I'm sure there's probably and OCONV format that would get me started but. Oh! I know! I'd as this list! silly smile Does that count? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:15 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions David, I've used many of these questions in the past but where it fell down was that it didn't give any real picture of technical ability. The one question I've been using lately to assess technical thinking is how would you calculate the last Thursday in a month? The answers have been everywhere from accurate to sheer ridiculous. The unexpected takeaway from this question is that it has helped to identify people who simply want to answer quickly without thinking - not a good trait unless the answer is right and to date that's happened a total of zero times - vs people who think first and then give a reasoned response. I've just found it too easy for people to stretch the truth when explaining their technical ability, so I'm asking questions intended to give some evidence. On Saturday, December 14, 2013, David Sharp wrote: Here is something I have used: What single project or task would you consider the most significant accomplishment in your career so far? * Can you give me a detailed overview of the accomplishment? * Tell me about the company, your title, your position, your role, and the team involved. * What were the actual results achieved? * When did it take place and how long did the project take. * Why you were chosen? * What were the 3-4 biggest challenges you faced and how did you deal with them? * Where did you go the extra mile or take the initiative? * Walk me through the plan, how you managed to it, and if it was successful. * Describe the environment and resources. * Describe your manager's style and whether you liked it or not. * Describe the technical skills needed to accomplish the objective and how they were used. * Some of the biggest mistakes you made. * Aspects of the ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
On 17/12/2013 00:17, Wjhonson wrote: What is the last Thursday of the current month. Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number with 01 with Iconv that. Actually, I think that'll screw up pretty spectacularly! OCONV(@TODAY, D2) gives me 17/12/13. If I replace the middle number (or if Kevin replaced the middle number) we'd both end up somewhere in January! Why do you Yanks put the least significant number in the middle? That's crazy! If you want the first of the month, the easiest way to do it is FIRST = 01/:OCONV(@TODAY,D2[M,Y]) (if I've remembered my syntax correctly). Then to get that into internal format I_FIRST = ICONV(FIRST, D2DMY) You should NEVER assume that dates are in the format you expect, unless you are in control (which you aren't, here, seeing as you've messed up pretty spectacularly :-) Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
On 16/12/2013 23:42, Robert Frailey wrote: Some of the biggest mistakes you made. Corrupted the first install of Exchange, messed up all the right but made a backup bgefore I did it, saved the day. What's really annoying is when the experts mess up - especially when they were instructed not to! I set up an Exchange server, but my manager got a consultant in to redo it. We had a user, ExchangeAdmin, for precisely that task. So what did the consultant do (despite, as I say, being told not to)? He used Administrator as the Exchange admin id. Dunno if they've changed it, but it always used to be re-install Exchange if you change the admin password. Then the MD sacked out network administrator and demanded we changed all the master passwords ... cue chaos as Exchange broke and had to be rebuilt ... Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Nothing exists outside of the USA. -Original Message- From: Anthonys Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 6:00 pm Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions On 17/12/2013 00:17, Wjhonson wrote: What is the last Thursday of the current month. Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number with 01 with Iconv that. Actually, I think that'll screw up pretty spectacularly! OCONV(@TODAY, D2) gives me 17/12/13. If I replace the middle number (or if Kevin replaced the middle number) we'd both end up somewhere in January! Why do you Yanks put the least significant number in the middle? That's crazy! If you want the first of the month, the easiest way to do it is FIRST = 01/:OCONV(@TODAY,D2[M,Y]) (if I've remembered my syntax correctly). Then to get that into internal format I_FIRST = ICONV(FIRST, D2DMY) You should NEVER assume that dates are in the format you expect, unless you are in control (which you aren't, here, seeing as you've messed up pretty spectacularly :-) Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Another option, which I always have done, is to iconv dates in 15 Jan 2013 format. This always works regardless of which date method is selected. Don't know why yanks do things that irritate you. But then, most people do things that irritate someone. As Mark Brown always points out; the trouble with standards is everybody has one. This seems more of an issue than what yanks do. :-) Bill Untitled Page - Original Message - *From:* antli...@youngman.org.uk *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 12/16/2013 6:00 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions On 17/12/2013 00:17, Wjhonson wrote: What is the last Thursday of the current month. Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number with 01 with Iconv that. Actually, I think that'll screw up pretty spectacularly! OCONV(@TODAY, D2) gives me 17/12/13. If I replace the middle number (or if Kevin replaced the middle number) we'd both end up somewhere in January! Why do you Yanks put the least significant number in the middle? That's crazy! If you want the first of the month, the easiest way to do it is FIRST = 01/:OCONV(@TODAY,D2[M,Y]) (if I've remembered my syntax correctly). Then to get that into internal format I_FIRST = ICONV(FIRST, D2DMY) You should NEVER assume that dates are in the format you expect, unless you are in control (which you aren't, here, seeing as you've messed up pretty spectacularly :-) Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
There's an xkcd for everthing: http://xkcd.com/1179/ -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 6:13 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Another option, which I always have done, is to iconv dates in 15 Jan 2013 format. This always works regardless of which date method is selected. Don't know why yanks do things that irritate you. But then, most people do things that irritate someone. As Mark Brown always points out; the trouble with standards is everybody has one. This seems more of an issue than what yanks do. :-) Bill Untitled Page - Original Message - *From:* antli...@youngman.org.uk *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 12/16/2013 6:00 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions On 17/12/2013 00:17, Wjhonson wrote: What is the last Thursday of the current month. Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number with 01 with Iconv that. Actually, I think that'll screw up pretty spectacularly! OCONV(@TODAY, D2) gives me 17/12/13. If I replace the middle number (or if Kevin replaced the middle number) we'd both end up somewhere in January! Why do you Yanks put the least significant number in the middle? That's crazy! If you want the first of the month, the easiest way to do it is FIRST = 01/:OCONV(@TODAY,D2[M,Y]) (if I've remembered my syntax correctly). Then to get that into internal format I_FIRST = ICONV(FIRST, D2DMY) You should NEVER assume that dates are in the format you expect, unless you are in control (which you aren't, here, seeing as you've messed up pretty spectacularly :-) Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Well now... this is getting interesting. Wol has a very valid point. Assumptions can be deadly. Hence why I called Will out on his. It's minor in the sense of this dialogue, but if when customers are putting up money for the end result assumptions and misunderstanding can be the difference between getting the gig or getting the boot. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.netwrote: Another option, which I always have done, is to iconv dates in 15 Jan 2013 format. This always works regardless of which date method is selected. Don't know why yanks do things that irritate you. But then, most people do things that irritate someone. As Mark Brown always points out; the trouble with standards is everybody has one. This seems more of an issue than what yanks do. :-) Bill Untitled Page - Original Message - *From:* antli...@youngman.org.uk *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 12/16/2013 6:00 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions On 17/12/2013 00:17, Wjhonson wrote: What is the last Thursday of the current month. Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number with 01 with Iconv that. Actually, I think that'll screw up pretty spectacularly! OCONV(@TODAY, D2) gives me 17/12/13. If I replace the middle number (or if Kevin replaced the middle number) we'd both end up somewhere in January! Why do you Yanks put the least significant number in the middle? That's crazy! If you want the first of the month, the easiest way to do it is FIRST = 01/:OCONV(@TODAY,D2[M,Y]) (if I've remembered my syntax correctly). Then to get that into internal format I_FIRST = ICONV(FIRST, D2DMY) You should NEVER assume that dates are in the format you expect, unless you are in control (which you aren't, here, seeing as you've messed up pretty spectacularly :-) Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Tech Alert *TURN YOUR GADGETS OFF* before you get hacked
Allen, do you have any evidence that gadgets were the way you got infected? This article: http://www.microsoft.com/security/pc-security/gadgets.aspx seems to suggest that with proper and up-to-date anti-malware software, gadgets are no more dangerous than other installable programs. On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Allen Elwood RR wrote: Tech Alert *TURN YOUR GADGETS OFF* before you get hacked http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/dn261332 :shock: hacker's found a way to get inside your gadgets and take control of your computer this explains how i got hacked last month - my computer was acting odd and really slow - the hard drive was thrashing like crazy and i knew something wasn't right so i walked to the wireless router and pulled the power cord. did a full disk virus scan and had a couple of really nasty trojans and 250+ spyware apps all active at the same time. wonder WHY it was so slow! :lol: they also got my password to my roadrunner email and started blasting spam, i started getting mail delivery failures, put 2+2=5 together and changed my password. after that i immediately got a spam - kinda like a nanner nanner we got you thing. gadgets off now. i miss them already. the clock gadget disappeared and i started looking around to see what was up and found this alert by Microsoft you know, you'd a thunk maybe they'd let us know??? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions
Of course, one normally puts dates together like that because left justification works, and we all know how we're always limited by someone elses standards. :-) Bill - Original Message - *From:* james.mcgo...@bankofthewest.com *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 12/16/2013 6:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions There's an xkcd for everthing: http://xkcd.com/1179/ -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 6:13 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions Another option, which I always have done, is to iconv dates in 15 Jan 2013 format. This always works regardless of which date method is selected. Don't know why yanks do things that irritate you. But then, most people do things that irritate someone. As Mark Brown always points out; the trouble with standards is everybody has one. This seems more of an issue than what yanks do. :-) Bill Untitled Page - Original Message - *From:* antli...@youngman.org.uk *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 12/16/2013 6:00 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] [OT] Interview Questions On 17/12/2013 00:17, Wjhonson wrote: What is the last Thursday of the current month. Current Date minus Current Day of Month number plus 1 puts you on the first of the current month Or you could just Oconv d2/ and replace the middle number with 01 with Iconv that. Actually, I think that'll screw up pretty spectacularly! OCONV(@TODAY, D2) gives me 17/12/13. If I replace the middle number (or if Kevin replaced the middle number) we'd both end up somewhere in January! Why do you Yanks put the least significant number in the middle? That's crazy! If you want the first of the month, the easiest way to do it is FIRST = 01/:OCONV(@TODAY,D2[M,Y]) (if I've remembered my syntax correctly). Then to get that into internal format I_FIRST = ICONV(FIRST, D2DMY) You should NEVER assume that dates are in the format you expect, unless you are in control (which you aren't, here, seeing as you've messed up pretty spectacularly :-) Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Tech Alert *TURN YOUR GADGETS OFF* before you get hacked
no, but i follow all standard practices to avoid infection, and this was my first virus at home had a few at work when someone opened an invoice, that wasn't really an invoice, clicked on the attachment and the entire company was infected in seconds... norton was unable to remove it, so i loaded up microsoft security essentials which deleted the infected backup .dll and automagically downloaded a new one from the net for the system32 directory and the backup to that. *nice* On 12/16/2013 6:29 PM, Bob Rasmussen wrote: Allen, do you have any evidence that gadgets were the way you got infected? This article: http://www.microsoft.com/security/pc-security/gadgets.aspx seems to suggest that with proper and up-to-date anti-malware software, gadgets are no more dangerous than other installable programs. On Mon, 16 Dec 2013, Allen Elwood RR wrote: Tech Alert *TURN YOUR GADGETS OFF* before you get hacked http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/dn261332 :shock: hacker's found a way to get inside your gadgets and take control of your computer this explains how i got hacked last month - my computer was acting odd and really slow - the hard drive was thrashing like crazy and i knew something wasn't right so i walked to the wireless router and pulled the power cord. did a full disk virus scan and had a couple of really nasty trojans and 250+ spyware apps all active at the same time. wonder WHY it was so slow! :lol: they also got my password to my roadrunner email and started blasting spam, i started getting mail delivery failures, put 2+2=5 together and changed my password. after that i immediately got a spam - kinda like a nanner nanner we got you thing. gadgets off now. i miss them already. the clock gadget disappeared and i started looking around to see what was up and found this alert by Microsoft you know, you'd a thunk maybe they'd let us know??? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
