RE: RE: [U2] Employment disaster
The PHB's base their decisions upon the information given them - if there dinosaur MV programmers (whatever age) go xml tut tut not easy or web interface are you insane - then they look elsewhere ! -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Gerd Forthmann Sent: 24 April 2009 14:35 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: RE: [U2] Employment disaster Les, I didn't say ALL developers become dinosaurs (even if Jerry seems to think so) and PHBs are ALWAYS smart. The fact that you are in this group probably makes you an exception already. There are many reasons to stick with the same outfit for a long time; Family, friends, habit to name just a few. There might even be companies which really appreciate what you are doing and are great to work for. I don't know, I haven't found one yet. Being a dinosaur has nothing to do with age, it has to do with adaptability. Crocodiles are even older than dinosaurs, and they are still around and still a very successful species. And of course a subroutine is still a subroutine even if you call it a method! That is not the point. The point is, that it is not ALWAYS the obsession of PHBs with new technology and youth that leads to MV-systems being replaced with the likes of Microsoft, SAP or Oracle. In many cases it is the dinosaurs under the IT-people who are the reason for the wish or even need to change. And believe me or not, I had to work with quite a lot of them over the years - old ones and young ones alike. But you are right in a way, in every case it has been ignorant management who let them get away with that attitude in the first place; so it is always the fault of the PHBs after all. ;-) Aren't Fridays great? Mecki Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:44:43 +0100 > Von: "Les Hewkin" > An: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Betreff: RE: [U2] Employment disaster > RubbishI have worked for the same couple for more then 10 years. In > that time I have gone from only knowing Universe to developing systems > in VB6, JAVA, dot.net. > > It's not the developers that become dinosaurs it's the PHB's that think > anything new is better then anything that's gone before, and only some > one young can understand this new world. > > Have you spotted that most new ideas are old ideas with lots of big > words wrapped round them?? > > End of rant...boy am I glad it's Friday > > > Les Sherlock Hewkin > Project Manager > Group Financial Systems > I.T. Department > Ryehill House > Ryehill Close, > Lodge Way Industrial Estate, > Northampton. > NN5 7UA > > T 01604 592289 > M 07917 856195 > > -Original Message- > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki > Foerthmann > Sent: 23 April 2009 17:42 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] Employment disaster > > That may be right, but smart companies don't hire someone, who got stuck > somewhere and only knows that little niche, even if he knows it inside > out. > Smart employers hire people who bring new ideas, new skills and show the > ability to adapt to a new environment quickly. > Smart companies train their employees and let them constantly learn new > skills (and pay them decent salaries as well). > Dinosaurs became extinct, because they couldn't adapt to a rapidly > changing world. > That's why you call some people 'dinosaurs', not because they are over > 55 like myself. > > If you work for an end user company for more than 5 years, you most > likely already lost touch with what is going on in rest of the world. > After 20 years with the same outfit (probably also still running the > same software as 20 years ago) you become unemployable. > And in today's climate, no job is save. > > > jpb-u2ug wrote: > > I wouldn't say that too loudly there's a lot of potential employers on > > > this list. Most smart companies like to have someone that is willing > > to stick around long enough to learn their business logic. > > > > Jerry Banker > > > > -Original Message- > > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org > > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki > > Foerthmann > > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:54 PM > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > Subject: Re: [U2] UV to SAP migration disaster > > > > jpb-u2ug wrote: > > > >> > >> Oh and one of these days you are going to be sitting in the same seat > > >> talking about the good old days too, and someone is going to be
Re: RE: [U2] Employment disaster
Les, I didn't say ALL developers become dinosaurs (even if Jerry seems to think so) and PHBs are ALWAYS smart. The fact that you are in this group probably makes you an exception already. There are many reasons to stick with the same outfit for a long time; Family, friends, habit to name just a few. There might even be companies which really appreciate what you are doing and are great to work for. I don't know, I haven't found one yet. Being a dinosaur has nothing to do with age, it has to do with adaptability. Crocodiles are even older than dinosaurs, and they are still around and still a very successful species. And of course a subroutine is still a subroutine even if you call it a method! That is not the point. The point is, that it is not ALWAYS the obsession of PHBs with new technology and youth that leads to MV-systems being replaced with the likes of Microsoft, SAP or Oracle. In many cases it is the dinosaurs under the IT-people who are the reason for the wish or even need to change. And believe me or not, I had to work with quite a lot of them over the years - old ones and young ones alike. But you are right in a way, in every case it has been ignorant management who let them get away with that attitude in the first place; so it is always the fault of the PHBs after all. ;-) Aren't Fridays great? Mecki Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:44:43 +0100 > Von: "Les Hewkin" > An: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Betreff: RE: [U2] Employment disaster > RubbishI have worked for the same couple for more then 10 years. In > that time I have gone from only knowing Universe to developing systems > in VB6, JAVA, dot.net. > > It's not the developers that become dinosaurs it's the PHB's that think > anything new is better then anything that's gone before, and only some > one young can understand this new world. > > Have you spotted that most new ideas are old ideas with lots of big > words wrapped round them?? > > End of rant...boy am I glad it's Friday > > > Les Sherlock Hewkin > Project Manager > Group Financial Systems > I.T. Department > Ryehill House > Ryehill Close, > Lodge Way Industrial Estate, > Northampton. > NN5 7UA > > T 01604 592289 > M 07917 856195 > > -Original Message- > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki > Foerthmann > Sent: 23 April 2009 17:42 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] Employment disaster > > That may be right, but smart companies don't hire someone, who got stuck > somewhere and only knows that little niche, even if he knows it inside > out. > Smart employers hire people who bring new ideas, new skills and show the > ability to adapt to a new environment quickly. > Smart companies train their employees and let them constantly learn new > skills (and pay them decent salaries as well). > Dinosaurs became extinct, because they couldn't adapt to a rapidly > changing world. > That's why you call some people 'dinosaurs', not because they are over > 55 like myself. > > If you work for an end user company for more than 5 years, you most > likely already lost touch with what is going on in rest of the world. > After 20 years with the same outfit (probably also still running the > same software as 20 years ago) you become unemployable. > And in today's climate, no job is save. > > > jpb-u2ug wrote: > > I wouldn't say that too loudly there's a lot of potential employers on > > > this list. Most smart companies like to have someone that is willing > > to stick around long enough to learn their business logic. > > > > Jerry Banker > > > > -Original Message- > > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org > > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki > > Foerthmann > > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:54 PM > > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > > Subject: Re: [U2] UV to SAP migration disaster > > > > jpb-u2ug wrote: > > > >> > >> Oh and one of these days you are going to be sitting in the same seat > > >> talking about the good old days too, and someone is going to be > >> telling > >> > > you > > > >> that you're a dinosaur. It's not easy trying to keep up with the > >> > > technology > > > >> and if your company isn't using it you tend to gravitate toward what > >> they > >> > > do > > > >> use. > >> > >> Jerry Banker > >>
RE: [U2] Employment disaster
RubbishI have worked for the same couple for more then 10 years. In that time I have gone from only knowing Universe to developing systems in VB6, JAVA, dot.net. It's not the developers that become dinosaurs it's the PHB's that think anything new is better then anything that's gone before, and only some one young can understand this new world. Have you spotted that most new ideas are old ideas with lots of big words wrapped round them?? End of rant...boy am I glad it's Friday Les Sherlock Hewkin Project Manager Group Financial Systems I.T. Department Ryehill House Ryehill Close, Lodge Way Industrial Estate, Northampton. NN5 7UA T 01604 592289 M 07917 856195 -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: 23 April 2009 17:42 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Employment disaster That may be right, but smart companies don't hire someone, who got stuck somewhere and only knows that little niche, even if he knows it inside out. Smart employers hire people who bring new ideas, new skills and show the ability to adapt to a new environment quickly. Smart companies train their employees and let them constantly learn new skills (and pay them decent salaries as well). Dinosaurs became extinct, because they couldn't adapt to a rapidly changing world. That's why you call some people 'dinosaurs', not because they are over 55 like myself. If you work for an end user company for more than 5 years, you most likely already lost touch with what is going on in rest of the world. After 20 years with the same outfit (probably also still running the same software as 20 years ago) you become unemployable. And in today's climate, no job is save. jpb-u2ug wrote: > I wouldn't say that too loudly there's a lot of potential employers on > this list. Most smart companies like to have someone that is willing > to stick around long enough to learn their business logic. > > Jerry Banker > > -Original Message- > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki > Foerthmann > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:54 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] UV to SAP migration disaster > > jpb-u2ug wrote: > >> >> Oh and one of these days you are going to be sitting in the same seat >> talking about the good old days too, and someone is going to be >> telling >> > you > >> that you're a dinosaur. It's not easy trying to keep up with the >> > technology > >> and if your company isn't using it you tend to gravitate toward what >> they >> > do > >> use. >> >> Jerry Banker >> >> > Not me Jerry, I usually don't stay long enough for that to happen. > If there's nothing new to learn I move on. > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee only. If you have received this message in error, you must not copy, distribute or disclose the contents; please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. This message is attributed to the sender and may not necessarily reflect the view of Travis Perkins plc or its subsidiaries (Travis Perkins). Agreements binding Travis Perkins may not be concluded by means of e-mail communication. E-mail transmissions are not secure and Travis Perkins accepts no responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst steps have been taken to ensure that this message is virus free, Travis Perkins accepts no liability for infection and recommends that you scan this e-mail and any attachments. Part of Travis Perkins plc. Registered Office: Lodge Way House, Lodge Way, Harlestone Road, Northampton, NN5 7UG. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Employment disaster
That may be right, but smart companies don't hire someone, who got stuck somewhere and only knows that little niche, even if he knows it inside out. Smart employers hire people who bring new ideas, new skills and show the ability to adapt to a new environment quickly. Smart companies train their employees and let them constantly learn new skills (and pay them decent salaries as well). Dinosaurs became extinct, because they couldn't adapt to a rapidly changing world. That's why you call some people 'dinosaurs', not because they are over 55 like myself. If you work for an end user company for more than 5 years, you most likely already lost touch with what is going on in rest of the world. After 20 years with the same outfit (probably also still running the same software as 20 years ago) you become unemployable. And in today's climate, no job is save. jpb-u2ug wrote: I wouldn't say that too loudly there's a lot of potential employers on this list. Most smart companies like to have someone that is willing to stick around long enough to learn their business logic. Jerry Banker -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:54 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UV to SAP migration disaster jpb-u2ug wrote: Oh and one of these days you are going to be sitting in the same seat talking about the good old days too, and someone is going to be telling you that you're a dinosaur. It's not easy trying to keep up with the technology and if your company isn't using it you tend to gravitate toward what they do use. Jerry Banker Not me Jerry, I usually don't stay long enough for that to happen. If there's nothing new to learn I move on. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [Employment Seekeded] New York City Area or remote
I've actually sawn 'PO Recipes' I can't spell for a pale of beans either. TG for spelt check (seen, pile & spell puns intended:) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Glen Batchelor Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 07:14 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] [Employment Seeked] New York City Area or remote Actually it should be "Seeking Employment" since we're talking present tense, but who's counting? I had to pass technical writing courses, yet I still manage to fumble sentences and phrases over a decade later. Pick wouldn't be so fun if it wasn't for that misspelled word in the sales menu that no one has time to fix or that prompt in accounting that says "cash reciept" which no one has even noticed. :P Glen Batchelor IT Director All-Spec Industries phone: (910) 332-0424 fax: (910) 763-5664 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.all-spec.com Blog: http://blog.all-spec.com (snip pun intended) qc: --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [Employment Seeked] New York City Area or remote
Actually it should be "Seeking Employment" since we're talking present tense, but who's counting? I had to pass technical writing courses, yet I still manage to fumble sentences and phrases over a decade later. Pick wouldn't be so fun if it wasn't for that misspelled word in the sales menu that no one has time to fix or that prompt in accounting that says "cash reciept" which no one has even noticed. :P Glen Batchelor IT Director All-Spec Industries phone: (910) 332-0424 fax: (910) 763-5664 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.all-spec.com Blog: http://blog.all-spec.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen E. Elwood > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:59 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [U2] [Employment Seeked] New York City Area or remote > > I'm not an English major, but shouldn't it be 'employment sought?' > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sought > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter S. > Goldberger > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 16:46 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] [Employment Seeked] New York City Area or remote > > > I have over 22 years of Senior programming experience with most flavors > of Pick and I have directed IT departments for companies in the > manufacturing, importing and distribution industries. > > I am willing to commute 1 to 1 1/2 hours from New York City or > telecommute for full or short-term/part-time position. > > Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for resume and references. > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [Employment Seeked] New York City Area or remote
I interviewed Peter for one of my clients and found him to be quite capable and well versed in his areas of Pick and business experience. FWIW. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: "Allen E. Elwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:59 PM Subject: RE: [U2] [Employment Seeked] New York City Area or remote > I'm not an English major, but shouldn't it be 'employment sought?' > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sought > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter S. > Goldberger > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 16:46 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] [Employment Seeked] New York City Area or remote > > > I have over 22 years of Senior programming experience with most flavors > of Pick and I have directed IT departments for companies in the > manufacturing, importing and distribution industries. > > I am willing to commute 1 to 1 1/2 hours from New York City or > telecommute for full or short-term/part-time position. > > Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for resume and references. > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [Employment Seeked] New York City Area or remote
I'm not an English major, but shouldn't it be 'employment sought?' http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sought -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter S. Goldberger Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 16:46 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] [Employment Seeked] New York City Area or remote I have over 22 years of Senior programming experience with most flavors of Pick and I have directed IT departments for companies in the manufacturing, importing and distribution industries. I am willing to commute 1 to 1 1/2 hours from New York City or telecommute for full or short-term/part-time position. Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for resume and references. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT]
All, As some one who is 12 miles away... END OF THREAD - Charles Barouch, Moderator Debster wrote: well then -- I'm in trouble but I'm 35 miles from ground zero as the crow flies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a mere 50 miles from ground zero. It's probably affecting my mental processes. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][EMPLOYMENT]
well then -- I'm in trouble but I'm 35 miles from ground zero as the crow flies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of john reid Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:39 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] I'm a mere 50 miles from ground zero. It's probably affecting my mental processes. :-) j On 6/7/07, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the government has anything to say about it then it probably would be > separated. In the past though it was not unusual to have one person doing > everything in the IS department because he/she was the only one in the > department. > > - Original Message - > From: "john reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:54 AM > Subject: Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] > > > > Not talking just one thing though. Foremost is the fact that its > > likely that IF you're doing the administration, and the development > > there are probably segregation of duties issues with even the most > > passive audit. > > Notwithstanding ... it still sounds like more than one fte, at least > > to this former IT manager. > > j > > > > On 6/7/07, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sounds normal for this business. Every job I've ever had was similar, > >> never > >> had a job where I did only one thing all day every day. > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "john reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:28 AM > >> Subject: Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] > >> > >> > >> > Maybe I read the job description wrong, but it seems that you are > >> > searching for one person to do just about everything that is involved > >> > with keeping a system running. Administration, design, DEVELOPMENT, > >> > and the ability to work all hours, not to mention having time to > >> > 'fluidly' communicate with probably department heads etc. > >> > My $.02. > >> > j > >> > > >> > On 6/1/07, Perry Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Senior UniVerse System Administrator (Technology) > >> >> ZirMed, Inc. > >> >> Louisville, Kentucky > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> This job reports to the Chief Technology Officer > >> >> > >> >> Relocation is negotiable and travel is not required. > >> >> > >> >> This is a Full-Time position, working 1st Shift. > >> >> > >> >> Number of Openings for this position: 1 > >> >> > >> >> To apply please forward resume mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or > >> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >> View this and other opportunities at > >> >> http://www.zirmed.com/public/employment.aspx > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> > >> >> Overview > >> >> ZirMed, Inc., a Louisville based leader in the Healthcare Electronic > >> >> Claims Clearinghouse arena, is seeking a Senior UniVerse System > >> >> Administrator to be responsible for the overall design, implementation > >> >> and administration of all facets of the ZirMed UniVerse System. > >> >> > >> >> Job Skills/Requirements > >> >> GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: > >> >> . > >> >> System Design and Implementation > >> >> o Database design > >> >> o Data and process distribution > >> >> o Application design > >> >> . > >> >> Linux Administrator > >> >> o Operating system installation, configuration and maintenance > >> >> o Security > >> >> o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores > >> >> o Software installation, configuration and maintenance > >> >> o File system monitoring and maintenance > >> >> o User account maintenance > >> >> . > >> >> UniVerse Administrator > >> >> o Installation and configuration of UniVerse > >> >> o Account creation and management > >> >> o Configuration, monitoring and troubleshooting of transaction logging > >> >> o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores > >> >> o UniVerse security administration > >> >> . > >> &g
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I'm a mere 50 miles from ground zero. It's probably affecting my mental processes. :-) j On 6/7/07, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If the government has anything to say about it then it probably would be separated. In the past though it was not unusual to have one person doing everything in the IS department because he/she was the only one in the department. - Original Message - From: "john reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] > Not talking just one thing though. Foremost is the fact that its > likely that IF you're doing the administration, and the development > there are probably segregation of duties issues with even the most > passive audit. > Notwithstanding ... it still sounds like more than one fte, at least > to this former IT manager. > j > > On 6/7/07, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sounds normal for this business. Every job I've ever had was similar, >> never >> had a job where I did only one thing all day every day. >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "john reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] >> >> >> > Maybe I read the job description wrong, but it seems that you are >> > searching for one person to do just about everything that is involved >> > with keeping a system running. Administration, design, DEVELOPMENT, >> > and the ability to work all hours, not to mention having time to >> > 'fluidly' communicate with probably department heads etc. >> > My $.02. >> > j >> > >> > On 6/1/07, Perry Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Senior UniVerse System Administrator (Technology) >> >> ZirMed, Inc. >> >> Louisville, Kentucky >> >> >> >> >> >> This job reports to the Chief Technology Officer >> >> >> >> Relocation is negotiable and travel is not required. >> >> >> >> This is a Full-Time position, working 1st Shift. >> >> >> >> Number of Openings for this position: 1 >> >> >> >> To apply please forward resume mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or >> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> View this and other opportunities at >> >> http://www.zirmed.com/public/employment.aspx >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Overview >> >> ZirMed, Inc., a Louisville based leader in the Healthcare Electronic >> >> Claims Clearinghouse arena, is seeking a Senior UniVerse System >> >> Administrator to be responsible for the overall design, implementation >> >> and administration of all facets of the ZirMed UniVerse System. >> >> >> >> Job Skills/Requirements >> >> GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: >> >> . >> >> System Design and Implementation >> >> o Database design >> >> o Data and process distribution >> >> o Application design >> >> . >> >> Linux Administrator >> >> o Operating system installation, configuration and maintenance >> >> o Security >> >> o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores >> >> o Software installation, configuration and maintenance >> >> o File system monitoring and maintenance >> >> o User account maintenance >> >> . >> >> UniVerse Administrator >> >> o Installation and configuration of UniVerse >> >> o Account creation and management >> >> o Configuration, monitoring and troubleshooting of transaction logging >> >> o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores >> >> o UniVerse security administration >> >> . >> >> Developer >> >> o Develop and test applications in both UNIX and UniVerse >> >> o Maintain and/or enhance existing applications >> >> . >> >> Source Control Administrator >> >> o Monitor source control and software deployment by developers >> >> . >> >> Application Software Deployment >> >> o Organize and coordinate application software quality assurance and >> >> deployment for both scheduled and non-scheduled code turn cycles >> >> . >> >> Development Standards >> >> o Establish, maintain and implement development standards and >> >> conventions >> >> . >
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If the government has anything to say about it then it probably would be separated. In the past though it was not unusual to have one person doing everything in the IS department because he/she was the only one in the department. - Original Message - From: "john reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] Not talking just one thing though. Foremost is the fact that its likely that IF you're doing the administration, and the development there are probably segregation of duties issues with even the most passive audit. Notwithstanding ... it still sounds like more than one fte, at least to this former IT manager. j On 6/7/07, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds normal for this business. Every job I've ever had was similar, never had a job where I did only one thing all day every day. - Original Message - From: "john reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] > Maybe I read the job description wrong, but it seems that you are > searching for one person to do just about everything that is involved > with keeping a system running. Administration, design, DEVELOPMENT, > and the ability to work all hours, not to mention having time to > 'fluidly' communicate with probably department heads etc. > My $.02. > j > > On 6/1/07, Perry Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Senior UniVerse System Administrator (Technology) >> ZirMed, Inc. >> Louisville, Kentucky >> >> >> This job reports to the Chief Technology Officer >> >> Relocation is negotiable and travel is not required. >> >> This is a Full-Time position, working 1st Shift. >> >> Number of Openings for this position: 1 >> >> To apply please forward resume mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> View this and other opportunities at >> http://www.zirmed.com/public/employment.aspx >> >> -- >> >> Overview >> ZirMed, Inc., a Louisville based leader in the Healthcare Electronic >> Claims Clearinghouse arena, is seeking a Senior UniVerse System >> Administrator to be responsible for the overall design, implementation >> and administration of all facets of the ZirMed UniVerse System. >> >> Job Skills/Requirements >> GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: >> . >> System Design and Implementation >> o Database design >> o Data and process distribution >> o Application design >> . >> Linux Administrator >> o Operating system installation, configuration and maintenance >> o Security >> o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores >> o Software installation, configuration and maintenance >> o File system monitoring and maintenance >> o User account maintenance >> . >> UniVerse Administrator >> o Installation and configuration of UniVerse >> o Account creation and management >> o Configuration, monitoring and troubleshooting of transaction logging >> o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores >> o UniVerse security administration >> . >> Developer >> o Develop and test applications in both UNIX and UniVerse >> o Maintain and/or enhance existing applications >> . >> Source Control Administrator >> o Monitor source control and software deployment by developers >> . >> Application Software Deployment >> o Organize and coordinate application software quality assurance and >> deployment for both scheduled and non-scheduled code turn cycles >> . >> Development Standards >> o Establish, maintain and implement development standards and >> conventions >> . >> Developer Educator in topics such as >> o UniVerse BASIC programming practices, conventions and techniques >> o UNIX shell programming practices, conventions and techniques >> o Using UniVerse indexes, triggers, sockets interface, CallHTTP >> interface >> o Dictionaries >> o Query techniques and optimization >> o Source Control Management >> . >> Production Process Monitoring >> o Monitor the production environment through the use of email alerts, >> reports, interactive examination, etc., for application failures, >> process bottlenecks, etc. >> . >> Assist other departments with usage and troubleshooting of UniVerse >> and >> production applications. >> . >> Maintain a very liberal, open, and fluid communication with and foster >> a >> good working relationship among developers, production users and >>
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Not talking just one thing though. Foremost is the fact that its likely that IF you're doing the administration, and the development there are probably segregation of duties issues with even the most passive audit. Notwithstanding ... it still sounds like more than one fte, at least to this former IT manager. j On 6/7/07, Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds normal for this business. Every job I've ever had was similar, never had a job where I did only one thing all day every day. - Original Message - From: "john reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] > Maybe I read the job description wrong, but it seems that you are > searching for one person to do just about everything that is involved > with keeping a system running. Administration, design, DEVELOPMENT, > and the ability to work all hours, not to mention having time to > 'fluidly' communicate with probably department heads etc. > My $.02. > j > > On 6/1/07, Perry Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Senior UniVerse System Administrator (Technology) >> ZirMed, Inc. >> Louisville, Kentucky >> >> >> This job reports to the Chief Technology Officer >> >> Relocation is negotiable and travel is not required. >> >> This is a Full-Time position, working 1st Shift. >> >> Number of Openings for this position: 1 >> >> To apply please forward resume mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> View this and other opportunities at >> http://www.zirmed.com/public/employment.aspx >> >> -- >> >> Overview >> ZirMed, Inc., a Louisville based leader in the Healthcare Electronic >> Claims Clearinghouse arena, is seeking a Senior UniVerse System >> Administrator to be responsible for the overall design, implementation >> and administration of all facets of the ZirMed UniVerse System. >> >> Job Skills/Requirements >> GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: >> . >> System Design and Implementation >> o Database design >> o Data and process distribution >> o Application design >> . >> Linux Administrator >> o Operating system installation, configuration and maintenance >> o Security >> o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores >> o Software installation, configuration and maintenance >> o File system monitoring and maintenance >> o User account maintenance >> . >> UniVerse Administrator >> o Installation and configuration of UniVerse >> o Account creation and management >> o Configuration, monitoring and troubleshooting of transaction logging >> o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores >> o UniVerse security administration >> . >> Developer >> o Develop and test applications in both UNIX and UniVerse >> o Maintain and/or enhance existing applications >> . >> Source Control Administrator >> o Monitor source control and software deployment by developers >> . >> Application Software Deployment >> o Organize and coordinate application software quality assurance and >> deployment for both scheduled and non-scheduled code turn cycles >> . >> Development Standards >> o Establish, maintain and implement development standards and >> conventions >> . >> Developer Educator in topics such as >> o UniVerse BASIC programming practices, conventions and techniques >> o UNIX shell programming practices, conventions and techniques >> o Using UniVerse indexes, triggers, sockets interface, CallHTTP >> interface >> o Dictionaries >> o Query techniques and optimization >> o Source Control Management >> . >> Production Process Monitoring >> o Monitor the production environment through the use of email alerts, >> reports, interactive examination, etc., for application failures, >> process bottlenecks, etc. >> . >> Assist other departments with usage and troubleshooting of UniVerse and >> production applications. >> . >> Maintain a very liberal, open, and fluid communication with and foster a >> good working relationship among developers, production users and >> business owners >> . >> Perform other tasks and special projects from time to time as assigned >> by either the CIO or the CTO >> . >> Be available to perform after-hours tasks as required >> >> REQUIRED SKILLS: >> 5+ years Linux Administration Experience >> 5+ years UniVerse Administration, including experience with file sizing, >> index optimization, etc. >&g
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Sounds normal for this business. Every job I've ever had was similar, never had a job where I did only one thing all day every day. - Original Message - From: "john reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] Maybe I read the job description wrong, but it seems that you are searching for one person to do just about everything that is involved with keeping a system running. Administration, design, DEVELOPMENT, and the ability to work all hours, not to mention having time to 'fluidly' communicate with probably department heads etc. My $.02. j On 6/1/07, Perry Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Senior UniVerse System Administrator (Technology) ZirMed, Inc. Louisville, Kentucky This job reports to the Chief Technology Officer Relocation is negotiable and travel is not required. This is a Full-Time position, working 1st Shift. Number of Openings for this position: 1 To apply please forward resume mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] View this and other opportunities at http://www.zirmed.com/public/employment.aspx -- Overview ZirMed, Inc., a Louisville based leader in the Healthcare Electronic Claims Clearinghouse arena, is seeking a Senior UniVerse System Administrator to be responsible for the overall design, implementation and administration of all facets of the ZirMed UniVerse System. Job Skills/Requirements GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: . System Design and Implementation o Database design o Data and process distribution o Application design . Linux Administrator o Operating system installation, configuration and maintenance o Security o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores o Software installation, configuration and maintenance o File system monitoring and maintenance o User account maintenance . UniVerse Administrator o Installation and configuration of UniVerse o Account creation and management o Configuration, monitoring and troubleshooting of transaction logging o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores o UniVerse security administration . Developer o Develop and test applications in both UNIX and UniVerse o Maintain and/or enhance existing applications . Source Control Administrator o Monitor source control and software deployment by developers . Application Software Deployment o Organize and coordinate application software quality assurance and deployment for both scheduled and non-scheduled code turn cycles . Development Standards o Establish, maintain and implement development standards and conventions . Developer Educator in topics such as o UniVerse BASIC programming practices, conventions and techniques o UNIX shell programming practices, conventions and techniques o Using UniVerse indexes, triggers, sockets interface, CallHTTP interface o Dictionaries o Query techniques and optimization o Source Control Management . Production Process Monitoring o Monitor the production environment through the use of email alerts, reports, interactive examination, etc., for application failures, process bottlenecks, etc. . Assist other departments with usage and troubleshooting of UniVerse and production applications. . Maintain a very liberal, open, and fluid communication with and foster a good working relationship among developers, production users and business owners . Perform other tasks and special projects from time to time as assigned by either the CIO or the CTO . Be available to perform after-hours tasks as required REQUIRED SKILLS: 5+ years Linux Administration Experience 5+ years UniVerse Administration, including experience with file sizing, index optimization, etc. 10+ years Multi-Value database programming experience with BASIC, PROC and Paragraphs. UniVerse experience is preferred. Must include use of indexes, file triggers and transaction processing Multi-value Query language experience, with preference to UniVerse, including dictionary programming UNIX shell and tools programming experience C and Expect language experience Basic understanding of and experience with TCP/IP networking http/CGI programming Application Programming experience with IBM Websphere MQ Series Familiarity with SQL Great attention to detail Excellent verbal and written communications skills DESIRED SKILLS Experience with Microsoft SQL Server database and the Query Analyzer Benefits: Medical Insurance, Life Insurance, Dental Insurance, Paid Vacation, Paid Sick Days, Paid Holidays, Short Term Disability, Long Term Disability, 401K/403b Plan, Stock Options, Educational Assistance, Special Incentive Plans Screening Requirements: Criminal Background Check, Reference Check CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibit
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Maybe I read the job description wrong, but it seems that you are searching for one person to do just about everything that is involved with keeping a system running. Administration, design, DEVELOPMENT, and the ability to work all hours, not to mention having time to 'fluidly' communicate with probably department heads etc. My $.02. j On 6/1/07, Perry Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Senior UniVerse System Administrator (Technology) ZirMed, Inc. Louisville, Kentucky This job reports to the Chief Technology Officer Relocation is negotiable and travel is not required. This is a Full-Time position, working 1st Shift. Number of Openings for this position: 1 To apply please forward resume mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] View this and other opportunities at http://www.zirmed.com/public/employment.aspx -- Overview ZirMed, Inc., a Louisville based leader in the Healthcare Electronic Claims Clearinghouse arena, is seeking a Senior UniVerse System Administrator to be responsible for the overall design, implementation and administration of all facets of the ZirMed UniVerse System. Job Skills/Requirements GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: . System Design and Implementation o Database design o Data and process distribution o Application design . Linux Administrator o Operating system installation, configuration and maintenance o Security o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores o Software installation, configuration and maintenance o File system monitoring and maintenance o User account maintenance . UniVerse Administrator o Installation and configuration of UniVerse o Account creation and management o Configuration, monitoring and troubleshooting of transaction logging o Performance and monitoring of backups and restores o UniVerse security administration . Developer o Develop and test applications in both UNIX and UniVerse o Maintain and/or enhance existing applications . Source Control Administrator o Monitor source control and software deployment by developers . Application Software Deployment o Organize and coordinate application software quality assurance and deployment for both scheduled and non-scheduled code turn cycles . Development Standards o Establish, maintain and implement development standards and conventions . Developer Educator in topics such as o UniVerse BASIC programming practices, conventions and techniques o UNIX shell programming practices, conventions and techniques o Using UniVerse indexes, triggers, sockets interface, CallHTTP interface o Dictionaries o Query techniques and optimization o Source Control Management . Production Process Monitoring o Monitor the production environment through the use of email alerts, reports, interactive examination, etc., for application failures, process bottlenecks, etc. . Assist other departments with usage and troubleshooting of UniVerse and production applications. . Maintain a very liberal, open, and fluid communication with and foster a good working relationship among developers, production users and business owners . Perform other tasks and special projects from time to time as assigned by either the CIO or the CTO . Be available to perform after-hours tasks as required REQUIRED SKILLS: 5+ years Linux Administration Experience 5+ years UniVerse Administration, including experience with file sizing, index optimization, etc. 10+ years Multi-Value database programming experience with BASIC, PROC and Paragraphs. UniVerse experience is preferred. Must include use of indexes, file triggers and transaction processing Multi-value Query language experience, with preference to UniVerse, including dictionary programming UNIX shell and tools programming experience C and Expect language experience Basic understanding of and experience with TCP/IP networking http/CGI programming Application Programming experience with IBM Websphere MQ Series Familiarity with SQL Great attention to detail Excellent verbal and written communications skills DESIRED SKILLS Experience with Microsoft SQL Server database and the Query Analyzer Benefits: Medical Insurance, Life Insurance, Dental Insurance, Paid Vacation, Paid Sick Days, Paid Holidays, Short Term Disability, Long Term Disability, 401K/403b Plan, Stock Options, Educational Assistance, Special Incentive Plans Screening Requirements: Criminal Background Check, Reference Check CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. ZirMed, Inc. has strict policies regarding the content of e-mail communications, specifically Protected Health Information, any communications containing such material will be returned to the originating party with such advisement noted. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e
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Marc: IMHO as a person who has both UD & UV clients, I know that they are reasonably close but identifiably different. Meaning, there you have an excellent resource in this forum to acquire the small UV stuff that you need. Basically, it's already installed and working, so you may spend a bunch of time in the database instead of under it. I know that the standard ED editor is different (I like the UD version) but UV supports both 7 and 10 line dict items. Things like that. Good luck Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: "Marc Harbeson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:11 PM Subject: RE: [U2][EMPLOYMENT] > Too bad all my experience is in UniData. :-) (Since I'm right across > the river and whatnot) > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
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Too bad all my experience is in UniData. :-) (Since I'm right across the river and whatnot) --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
