Re: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-27 Thread john reid

Great minds
Although I find that if I have it CHAIN itself every hour, it doesnt
leave its messy orphan children around.
j

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David,

What I did was to write a Master Scheduler Program that runs as a phantom
and phantoms off the background processes when it is their time.

Thanks,
David A. Green
DAG Consulting


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These are all good suggestions, but the issue is I cannot tell if the job
failed due to an out of licenses condition. In the old days it was easy, if
the process was not attached to a terminal device, it was construed as a
phantom and didn't consume a license. (or at least that's the way I remember
it).

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 Is it possible to issue a phantom from OS? 

I have several jobs that are run through the Windows scheduler.  Simply set
up a batch file, and schedule the job to execute the batch file.

Sample batch file:
echo start UniVerse End Of Day job
cd IBM\uv
bin\uvsh.exe RUN UVSOURCE END.OF.DAY
echo finished with End Of Day

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Re: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-27 Thread MAJ Programming
You may want to look at D3's Background(s) processor. Sorta does the same
thing.
Mark Johnson
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 Great minds
 Although I find that if I have it CHAIN itself every hour, it doesnt
 leave its messy orphan children around.
 j

 On 6/26/07, David A. Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  David,
 
  What I did was to write a Master Scheduler Program that runs as a
phantom
  and phantoms off the background processes when it is their time.
 
  Thanks,
  David A. Green
  DAG Consulting
 
 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ward
  Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:20 PM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom
 
  These are all good suggestions, but the issue is I cannot tell if the
job
  failed due to an out of licenses condition. In the old days it was easy,
if
  the process was not attached to a terminal device, it was construed as a
  phantom and didn't consume a license. (or at least that's the way I
remember
  it).
 
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  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom
 
 
   Is it possible to issue a phantom from OS? 
 
  I have several jobs that are run through the Windows scheduler.  Simply
set
  up a batch file, and schedule the job to execute the batch file.
 
  Sample batch file:
  echo start UniVerse End Of Day job
  cd IBM\uv
  bin\uvsh.exe RUN UVSOURCE END.OF.DAY
  echo finished with End Of Day
 
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  a Division of Money Management International
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread Kryka, Richard
 Is it possible to issue a phantom from OS? 

I have several jobs that are run through the Windows scheduler.  Simply
set up a batch file, and schedule the job to execute the batch file.

Sample batch file:
echo start UniVerse End Of Day job
cd IBM\uv
bin\uvsh.exe RUN UVSOURCE END.OF.DAY
echo finished with End Of Day

Dick Kryka
Director of Applications
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a Division of Money Management International
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread Jerry Banker
That would use up the license for the length of the process. The only
way to not use an additional license is to run a phantom from a process
that is already using a license. If your business is this tight on
licenses I would suggest you buy more. If your processes aren't running
you're out of business. What's that worth to you?

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From: Kryka, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:57 PM
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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom

 Is it possible to issue a phantom from OS? 

I have several jobs that are run through the Windows scheduler.  Simply
set up a batch file, and schedule the job to execute the batch file.

Sample batch file:
echo start UniVerse End Of Day job
cd IBM\uv
bin\uvsh.exe RUN UVSOURCE END.OF.DAY
echo finished with End Of Day

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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread David Ward
These are all good suggestions, but the issue is I cannot tell if the job
failed due to an out of licenses condition. In the old days it was easy, if
the process was not attached to a terminal device, it was construed as a
phantom and didn't consume a license. (or at least that's the way I remember
it).  

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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom


 Is it possible to issue a phantom from OS? 

I have several jobs that are run through the Windows scheduler.  Simply set
up a batch file, and schedule the job to execute the batch file.

Sample batch file:
echo start UniVerse End Of Day job
cd IBM\uv
bin\uvsh.exe RUN UVSOURCE END.OF.DAY
echo finished with End Of Day

Dick Kryka
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Paragon Financial Services
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread Kryka, Richard
 These are all good suggestions, but the issue is I cannot tell if the
job
failed due to an out of licenses condition.

I concur with prior respondents - if it is mission-critical, buy more
licenses.  The issue for me (and anyone who knows more can correct me)
is that you are allowed 10 sessions from one workstation (or server) and
these 10 sessions consume one license.  So if you have several batch
jobs that run concurrently during the day, they are just one license.

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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread Tony Gravagno
David Ward wrote:
 Hello, Is it possible to issue a phantom from OS? I have an automatic
 process that runs at various intervals, but we are low on licenses so
 sometimes the process fails. I'm on Windows Universe 10.2

This is a slightly different approach to your inquiry:
I wrote MVExec to execute an MV command from any Windows box on your
network, not just the OS prompt on the DBMS localhost.  Target DBMS can be
on *nix as well as Windows.  MVExec is free for anyone using mv.NET.
Complete documentation and code samples are in an associated README doc.
Contact me for a free trial of mv.NET if you're interested.

Tony Gravagno
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread David Ward
Thanks Tony, but I think if I resolve the device license issue, that will
resolve the issue. 

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David Ward wrote:
 Hello, Is it possible to issue a phantom from OS? I have an automatic 
 process that runs at various intervals, but we are low on licenses so 
 sometimes the process fails. I'm on Windows Universe 10.2

This is a slightly different approach to your inquiry:
I wrote MVExec to execute an MV command from any Windows box on your
network, not just the OS prompt on the DBMS localhost.  Target DBMS can be
on *nix as well as Windows.  MVExec is free for anyone using mv.NET.
Complete documentation and code samples are in an associated README doc.
Contact me for a free trial of mv.NET if you're interested.

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ remove.anti.spam.text.pleaseNebula-RnD.com
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread David A. Green
David,

What I did was to write a Master Scheduler Program that runs as a phantom
and phantoms off the background processes when it is their time.

Thanks,
David A. Green
DAG Consulting


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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom

These are all good suggestions, but the issue is I cannot tell if the job
failed due to an out of licenses condition. In the old days it was easy, if
the process was not attached to a terminal device, it was construed as a
phantom and didn't consume a license. (or at least that's the way I remember
it).  

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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:57 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom


 Is it possible to issue a phantom from OS? 

I have several jobs that are run through the Windows scheduler.  Simply set
up a batch file, and schedule the job to execute the batch file.

Sample batch file:
echo start UniVerse End Of Day job
cd IBM\uv
bin\uvsh.exe RUN UVSOURCE END.OF.DAY
echo finished with End Of Day

Dick Kryka
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Eastwood
Assuming your licensing is correct...What are you using to connect?  You
must use one of IBM's telnet clients; Dynamic Connect, Wintegrate, SB
client.



Mark







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Thanks Dave, but I still think getting device licensing working is the
way

to go (maybe). I've reinstalled my license on the test system, but I can

still only telnet up to the user count, rather than the device count.
Has

anyone else experienced this issue on UV10.2.0 on windows?
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread David Ward
Ah, that must be it then. I was just using windows telnet. Thanks Mark

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Assuming your licensing is correct...What are you using to connect?  You
must use one of IBM's telnet clients; Dynamic Connect, Wintegrate, SB
client.



Mark







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Thanks Dave, but I still think getting device licensing working is the way

to go (maybe). I've reinstalled my license on the test system, but I can

still only telnet up to the user count, rather than the device count. Has

anyone else experienced this issue on UV10.2.0 on windows?
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread Lloyd Cottrell
Ive been thru all this before, there are three type of licenses you get from
ibm, server , small business( not sure if that is the right name, but only
allows up 33 users) and enterprise.  If you have the server version, you
only get a one to one license, every connection uses a license. The other
two products allow up to 10 connections per device, and btw accuterm
supports the device licensing also.
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread David Ward
Thanks Dave, but I still think getting device licensing working is the way
to go (maybe). I've reinstalled my license on the test system, but I can
still only telnet up to the user count, rather than the device count. Has
anyone else experienced this issue on UV10.2.0 on windows?


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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom


David,

What I did was to write a Master Scheduler Program that runs as a phantom
and phantoms off the background processes when it is their time.

Thanks,
David A. Green
DAG Consulting


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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom

These are all good suggestions, but the issue is I cannot tell if the job
failed due to an out of licenses condition. In the old days it was easy, if
the process was not attached to a terminal device, it was construed as a
phantom and didn't consume a license. (or at least that's the way I remember
it).  

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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom


 Is it possible to issue a phantom from OS? 

I have several jobs that are run through the Windows scheduler.  Simply set
up a batch file, and schedule the job to execute the batch file.

Sample batch file:
echo start UniVerse End Of Day job
cd IBM\uv
bin\uvsh.exe RUN UVSOURCE END.OF.DAY
echo finished with End Of Day

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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread David Ward
It would seems that my version supports it as the input allows it to be set
to 10. Actually, when the license was originally setup, there was a
notification that the device license was lower than allowed (e.g 0). The
tech support rep said that device licensing was supported on my version, but
if plain ol telnet doesn't work, it doesn't solve my problem and I'll be
forced to alternative measures...

Thanks Lloyd

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Ive been thru all this before, there are three type of licenses you get from
ibm, server , small business( not sure if that is the right name, but only
allows up 33 users) and enterprise.  If you have the server version, you
only get a one to one license, every connection uses a license. The other
two products allow up to 10 connections per device, and btw accuterm
supports the device licensing also.
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread Bill Haskett
David:

Device licensing is an extra cost on U2 Server edition.  It's free on Workgroup 
(less than 25 licenses) and Enterprise editions.  It
only works if you're using an IBM product or AccuTerm or, maybe, some other MV 
emulator.

I think David is right about the master phantom.  I've written one too.  It's 
probably not as good as others but it does get the job
done.  If you're interested I'll post it.

Bill 

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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom

Thanks Dave, but I still think getting device licensing 
working is the way to go (maybe). I've reinstalled my license
on the test system, but I can still only telnet up to the user
count, rather than the device count. Has anyone else
experienced this issue on UV10.2.0 on windows?


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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom


David,

What I did was to write a Master Scheduler Program that runs 
as a phantom and phantoms off the background processes when
it is their time.

Thanks,
David A. Green
DAG Consulting


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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom

These are all good suggestions, but the issue is I cannot tell 
if the job failed due to an out of licenses condition. In the
old days it was easy, if the process was not attached to a
terminal device, it was construed as a phantom and didn't
consume a license. (or at least that's the way I remember it).  
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom

2007-06-26 Thread David Ward
I'm doing this on my test box right now and it is workgroup WG  WINDOWS
XPPRO UV. I don't see that it works even when I write a quickie Uniobjects
wrapper. Interesting. I'll follow up with ibm support and see what the deal
is.

Thanks everyone. I'll post the outcome whatever it may be.

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David:

Device licensing is an extra cost on U2 Server edition.  It's free on
Workgroup (less than 25 licenses) and Enterprise editions.  It only works if
you're using an IBM product or AccuTerm or, maybe, some other MV emulator.

I think David is right about the master phantom.  I've written one too.
It's probably not as good as others but it does get the job done.  If you're
interested I'll post it.

Bill 

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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom

Thanks Dave, but I still think getting device licensing
working is the way to go (maybe). I've reinstalled my license
on the test system, but I can still only telnet up to the user
count, rather than the device count. Has anyone else
experienced this issue on UV10.2.0 on windows?


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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom


David,

What I did was to write a Master Scheduler Program that runs
as a phantom and phantoms off the background processes when
it is their time.

Thanks,
David A. Green
DAG Consulting


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Subject: RE: [U2] Universe  Phantom

These are all good suggestions, but the issue is I cannot tell
if the job failed due to an out of licenses condition. In the
old days it was easy, if the process was not attached to a
terminal device, it was construed as a phantom and didn't
consume a license. (or at least that's the way I remember it).  
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom Problem

2004-07-23 Thread Ross Ferris
If you are moving programs between type 19 files, why even bother using a phantom ? If 
on Unix, why not have a cp CRON job, and if you are on Windows use AT

. OR, why not have the C routine process File1 directly ?

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage  an Evolution in Software Development


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I would say that the file B is still being read by the C program or has not
been released.  Check if the file is locked before you try to write using a
READL or READU.  If you don't use the locked clause it will wait until the
C
program releases File B.

Also consider looking at new features of UniVerse such as Sockets or MQ
(Message Que) to do the same process.  These have a lot of sophisticated
features to handle this environment.

Regards
David Jordan

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Hi,

I am facing following problem regarding Phantoms in universe:

We have a phantom which keeps on polling a type 19 file, say File1 for
data and transfers it to another type 19 file, say

File B. File B in turn is being read by a 'c' program.

The first phantom gets killed sometimes and pretty randomly. The error code
thrown is 40019, but I could not get any the information about this error.

Please find below a sample error message:

FATAL - Unable to write 7545698440*13346*25966.940943 on FileB

If someone has experienced such problem and/or has a workaround, please let
me know.

Thanks and Regards,

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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom Problem

2004-07-23 Thread Ray Wurlod
Look up error codes in the SYS.MESSAGE file.  This has six digit keys.
LIST SYS.MESSAGE '040019'
or
SELECT * FROM SYS.MESSAGE WHERE @ID = '040119';

If it's not there, the next best choice is, for connectivity questions, the InterCall 
manual.
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom Problem

2004-07-23 Thread Brian Leach
As David said, you get this if the C program has the file open.

Another work around is to use the ON ERROR clause for the write:

WrittenOk = @True
Loop
  Write TheItem On FL, TheId ON ERROR WrittenOk = @False
Until WrittenOk Do
  Nap 10
Repeat

Brian

 

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Subject: [U2] Universe Phantom Problem

Hi,

I am facing following problem regarding Phantoms in universe:

We have a phantom which keeps on polling a type 19 file, say File1 for
data and transfers it to another type 19 file, say

File B. File B in turn is being read by a 'c' program. 

The first phantom gets killed sometimes and pretty randomly. The error code
thrown is 40019, but I could not get any the information about this error.

Please find below a sample error message: 

FATAL - Unable to write 7545698440*13346*25966.940943 on FileB

If someone has experienced such problem and/or has a workaround, please let
me know.

Thanks and Regards,

Prem
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RE: [U2] Universe Phantom Problem

2004-07-22 Thread djordan
I would say that the file B is still being read by the C program or has not
been released.  Check if the file is locked before you try to write using a
READL or READU.  If you don't use the locked clause it will wait until the C
program releases File B.

Also consider looking at new features of UniVerse such as Sockets or MQ
(Message Que) to do the same process.  These have a lot of sophisticated
features to handle this environment.

Regards
David Jordan

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Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 5:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [U2] Universe Phantom Problem


Hi,

I am facing following problem regarding Phantoms in universe:

We have a phantom which keeps on polling a type 19 file, say File1 for
data and transfers it to another type 19 file, say

File B. File B in turn is being read by a 'c' program. 

The first phantom gets killed sometimes and pretty randomly. The error code
thrown is 40019, but I could not get any the information about this error.

Please find below a sample error message: 

FATAL - Unable to write 7545698440*13346*25966.940943 on FileB

If someone has experienced such problem and/or has a workaround, please let
me know.

Thanks and Regards,

Prem
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