Re: [U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server

2011-01-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/01/11 15:10, grmhbeers wrote:
 
 I have created a Unidata (1.7x) directory to which I am writing files in a
 unibasic program.  However I want the file to be saved directly in a folder
 on another server that is in the same virtual machine as our Unidata based
 system.  All reside on windows server.  I have tried everything I can think
 of from drive mapping to shortcuts, but Unidata still can't find the folder
 on the other server. What do I do so Unidata sees the mapping or shortcut or
 ??.  Can this be done in Unidata?  I do not want to ftp the files, I want
 them saved on the other server when the Unibasic program writes the file.

Is the other server a Unidata server too?

Can't speak for Unidata, but Universe won't allow this scenario by
default. All locks are on the CPU that UV is running on, so in order for
two Universe servers to talk to each other you need UV-net to ensure
that locking works.

There is an ALLOWNFS option that will let UV talk to another server, on
the assumption that it is the only UV server accessing the remote files.

I suspect UD has a similar setup.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server

2011-01-22 Thread Symeon Breen
Can you see this other file/folder from the cmd prompt ?

 

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Subject: [U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server

 

 

I have created a Unidata (1.7x) directory to which I am writing files in a
unibasic program.  However I want the file to be saved directly in a folder
on another server that is in the same virtual machine as our Unidata based
system.  All reside on windows server.  I have tried everything I can think
of from drive mapping to shortcuts, but Unidata still can't find the folder
on the other server. What do I do so Unidata sees the mapping or shortcut or
??.  Can this be done in Unidata?  I do not want to ftp the files, I want
them saved on the other server when the Unibasic program writes the file.
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Re: [U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server

2011-01-22 Thread grmhbeers

The other server is not a unidata server.  It's our moodle server.  Both are
on sql server platforms.  Unidata is underneath the sql server platform for
the application where the Unibasic program is generating the output files.


Wols Lists wrote:
 
 On 22/01/11 15:10, grmhbeers wrote:
 
 I have created a Unidata (1.7x) directory to which I am writing files in
 a
 unibasic program.  However I want the file to be saved directly in a
 folder
 on another server that is in the same virtual machine as our Unidata
 based
 system.  All reside on windows server.  I have tried everything I can
 think
 of from drive mapping to shortcuts, but Unidata still can't find the
 folder
 on the other server. What do I do so Unidata sees the mapping or shortcut
 or
 ??.  Can this be done in Unidata?  I do not want to ftp the files, I want
 them saved on the other server when the Unibasic program writes the file.
 
 Is the other server a Unidata server too?
 
 Can't speak for Unidata, but Universe won't allow this scenario by
 default. All locks are on the CPU that UV is running on, so in order for
 two Universe servers to talk to each other you need UV-net to ensure
 that locking works.
 
 There is an ALLOWNFS option that will let UV talk to another server, on
 the assumption that it is the only UV server accessing the remote files.
 
 I suspect UD has a similar setup.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server

2011-01-22 Thread Bill Haskett
From what I understand you have Unidata on one machine and you want to 
write to a directory on another machine within your network (node).  I'm 
not sure what you mean by a folder on another server that is in the 
same virtual machine...a virtual machine spans two physical machines?


Assuming I've misunderstood, if you're running Windows 2003 it's easy.  
If you're running Windows 2008 it's relatively easy but different.  
Which O/S are you running?


Bill


grmhbeers said the following on 1/22/2011 9:45 AM:

The other server is not a unidata server.  It's our moodle server.  Both are
on sql server platforms.  Unidata is underneath the sql server platform for
the application where the Unibasic program is generating the output files.


Wols Lists wrote:

Is the other server a Unidata server too?

Can't speak for Unidata, but Universe won't allow this scenario by
default. All locks are on the CPU that UV is running on, so in order for
two Universe servers to talk to each other you need UV-net to ensure
that locking works.

There is an ALLOWNFS option that will let UV talk to another server, on
the assumption that it is the only UV server accessing the remote files.

I suspect UD has a similar setup.

Cheers,
Wol

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Subject:[U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server
Date:   Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:10:28 -0800 (PST)
From:   grmhbeersghbe...@cox.net
Reply-To:   U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org


I have created a Unidata (1.7x) directory to which I am writing files in a
unibasic program.  However I want the file to be saved directly in a folder
on another server that is in the same virtual machine as our Unidata based
system.  All reside on windows server.  I have tried everything I can think
of from drive mapping to shortcuts, but Unidata still can't find the folder
on the other server. What do I do so Unidata sees the mapping or shortcut or
??.  Can this be done in Unidata?  I do not want to ftp the files, I want
them saved on the other server when the Unibasic program writes the file.


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Re: [U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server

2011-01-22 Thread Wols Lists
On 22/01/11 17:45, grmhbeers wrote:
 
 The other server is not a unidata server.  It's our moodle server.  Both are
 on sql server platforms.  Unidata is underneath the sql server platform for
 the application where the Unibasic program is generating the output files.
 
In other words, assuming UD is the same as UV, all you need do is find
the NFSALLOW (or equivalent) flag, and set it to true (ie 1).

As I say, I guess UD, by default, will refuse to write to a network
drive but by setting that flag you are telling UD no, it's safe to
write to the network.

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server

2011-01-22 Thread Bill Haskett
I don't think UD has the NFSALLOW flag.  In UD, you can simply write to 
any directory that's available to the network where the user had write 
privileges.  This raises a number of issues but, for instance, in 
Windows 2003 Server you can create a VOC entry to:


OSFILE
001 DIR
002 \\SOMESERVER\D$\SOMEDIRECTORY
003 D_VOC

This works but you may have to alter the permissions, if a UD user 
doesn't have the proper Windows permissions.  In Windows 2008, however, 
you have to explicitly share the directory on the server.  Then the 
VOC entry is like:


OSFILE
001 DIR
002 \\SomeServer\ShareName
003 D_VOC

At least this has been my experience so far.

Bill


Wols Lists said the following on 1/22/2011 2:02 PM:

On 22/01/11 17:45, grmhbeers wrote:

The other server is not a unidata server.  It's our moodle server.  Both are
on sql server platforms.  Unidata is underneath the sql server platform for
the application where the Unibasic program is generating the output files.


In other words, assuming UD is the same as UV, all you need do is find
the NFSALLOW (or equivalent) flag, and set it to true (ie 1).

As I say, I guess UD, by default, will refuse to write to a network
drive but by setting that flag you are telling UD no, it's safe to
write to the network.

Cheers,
Wol

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Re: [U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server

2011-01-22 Thread Curt Stewart


Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote:

Can you see this other file/folder from the cmd prompt ?

 

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Subject: [U2] re directing a unidata directory to another server

 

 

I have created a Unidata (1.7x) directory to which I am writing files in a
unibasic program.  However I want the file to be saved directly in a folder
on another server that is in the same virtual machine as our Unidata based
system.  All reside on windows server.  I have tried everything I can think
of from drive mapping to shortcuts, but Unidata still can't find the folder
on the other server. What do I do so Unidata sees the mapping or shortcut or
??.  Can this be done in Unidata?  I do not want to ftp the files, I want
them saved on the other server when the Unibasic program writes the file.
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Re: [U2] re ceiving error message XX record corrupt on logto

2010-05-24 Thread inquieti

Hi Susan
In your logto script try adding CLEARCOMMON then LOGIN so that you go in
cleanly.  You can add a Logto subroutine in SB+, go to the Admin screen, SB+
Setup, SB+ Control Parameters, F9 Logto Sub.  I've experienced this error
when logging between accounts from different versions of SB+ (different
COMMON blocks).
Regards
David

Susan Joslyn wrote:
 
 I have this happening at a client site and I've been all through the
 re-file
 everything and it won't quit.  It happens *consistently* if I have more
 than
 one session open, but still happens intermittently when I don't.  If you
 do
 come up with a fix for this I'd be very keen to learn it!
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Susan Joslyn
 SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.
 PRC - IT Governance for U2/Multivalue.
 
 
 
 From: Susan Lynch sly...@fwdco.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] receiving error message XX record corrupt on logto
 Message-ID: 004b3459d050475daf942cfccd93c...@susanhome
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 Kevin, yes, ROOT was the first one I did!
 
 Susan Lynch
 F. W. Davison  Company, Inc.
 
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Re: [U2] re ceiving error message XX record corrupt on logto

2010-05-24 Thread Susan Lynch
I tried this - it did not seem to help.  Thanks for the idea, though.  And 
thanks to all who have tried to help on this one.


Susan Lynch
F. W. Davison  Company, Inc.
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Hi Susan
In your logto script try adding CLEARCOMMON then LOGIN so that you go in
cleanly.  You can add a Logto subroutine in SB+, go to the Admin screen, 
SB+

Setup, SB+ Control Parameters, F9 Logto Sub.  I've experienced this error
when logging between accounts from different versions of SB+ (different
COMMON blocks).
Regards
David

Susan Joslyn wrote:


I have this happening at a client site and I've been all through the
re-file
everything and it won't quit.  It happens *consistently* if I have more
than
one session open, but still happens intermittently when I don't.  If you
do
come up with a fix for this I'd be very keen to learn it!


Thanks,

Susan Joslyn
SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.
PRC - IT Governance for U2/Multivalue.



From: Susan Lynch sly...@fwdco.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] receiving error message XX record corrupt on logto
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Kevin, yes, ROOT was the first one I did!

Susan Lynch
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Re: [U2] re ceiving error message XX record corrupt on logto

2010-05-21 Thread inquieti

Hi Susan
This is caused by either a missing or corrupt DMSECURITY item(s).  We had a
customer that couldn't add anything to their menus because when they did,
upon saving half the menus would disappear completely.  It was all due to
the fact that they had removed an account at Unix but everything was still
in the DMSECURITY file.  When the menus were re-built the 'missing' account
caused corruption.  It could even be the fact that the Allow Disallow on
accounts with restrictions has modules missing.  Make sure the DMSECURITY is
totally up to date and in line with the actual accounts.
Regards
David

Susan Lynch wrote:
 
 I am hoping that someone has a good memory - the company I am working with 
 is running SBPlus 5.3.3, which is past the End of Service date.  I have 
 checked the U2 Knowledge Base for this problem, and have checked
 everything 
 that they listed, and none of those possible causes are the reason for
 this 
 account.
 
 My user says that he changed SB security for this account, and now HE
 can't 
 log to the account without getting this message, and neither can I - and I 
 am in the ROOT group, and the account is in the ROOT group's list of 
 accounts without restrictions.
 
 If all else fails, I can try copying over all the XX files from an account 
 where we are not getting this message, but I am not convinced that it will 
 solve the problem, since it arose immediately after he changed something
 in 
 the security settings for the account.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Susan Lynch
 F. W. Davison  Company, Inc. 
 
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Re: [U2] re ceiving error message XX record corrupt on logto

2010-05-21 Thread Susan Lynch

Thanks!  I will go check that now!

Susan Lynch
F. W. Davison  Company, Inc.
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Subject: Re: [U2] re ceiving error message XX record corrupt on logto




Hi Susan
This is caused by either a missing or corrupt DMSECURITY item(s).  We had 
a

customer that couldn't add anything to their menus because when they did,
upon saving half the menus would disappear completely.  It was all due to
the fact that they had removed an account at Unix but everything was still
in the DMSECURITY file.  When the menus were re-built the 'missing' 
account

caused corruption.  It could even be the fact that the Allow Disallow on
accounts with restrictions has modules missing.  Make sure the DMSECURITY 
is

totally up to date and in line with the actual accounts.
Regards
David

Susan Lynch wrote:


I am hoping that someone has a good memory - the company I am working 
with

is running SBPlus 5.3.3, which is past the End of Service date.  I have
checked the U2 Knowledge Base for this problem, and have checked
everything
that they listed, and none of those possible causes are the reason for
this
account.

My user says that he changed SB security for this account, and now HE
can't
log to the account without getting this message, and neither can I - and 
I

am in the ROOT group, and the account is in the ROOT group's list of
accounts without restrictions.

If all else fails, I can try copying over all the XX files from an 
account
where we are not getting this message, but I am not convinced that it 
will

solve the problem, since it arose immediately after he changed something
in
the security settings for the account.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Susan Lynch
F. W. Davison  Company, Inc.

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Re: [U2] Re trieving Unix Date and Time stamp on records in a DIR type file

2009-10-27 Thread closebutnocigar

You could use

EXECUTE ! stat ./BP/PROG1 CAPTURING OUT

and parse out the bits you are interested in. This will show date/time of
the most recent access, modification and change



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Re: [U2] Re trieving Unix Date and Time stamp on records in a DIR type file

2009-10-27 Thread Doug Farmer
Use the DIR command on the file.

Get the path of the file, append the appropriate \ or /, then do a
DIR.

For example, on a Unix machine:

 ITEM.ID = 'TEST'
 OPEN '','BP' TO BP THEN
FILE.PATH = FILEINFO(BP,2)
ITEM.PATH = FILE.PATH:'/':ITEM.ID
ITEM.DATE = OCONV(DIR(ITEM.PATH)2,'D2/')
 END
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Re: [U2] Re trieving Unix Date and Time stamp on records in a DIRtype file

2009-10-27 Thread Dave Laansma
Perfect.  Thank you!

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Use the DIR command on the file.

Get the path of the file, append the appropriate \ or /, then do a
DIR.

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 ITEM.ID = 'TEST'
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RE: [U2] RE: Truncated catdir names

2009-05-27 Thread phil walker
Any reason for not resizing catdir as type 19? I have done this and
nothing seems to have broken. In fact I would hope that it would not as
the file type should be transparent to any application.


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 us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Hona, David
 Sent: Wednesday, 27 May 2009 6:30 p.m.
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] RE: Truncated catdir names
 
 Hi David
 
 This probably goes back to the limitations of the original port of
UNIX
 that had the directory name limited and the maximum number of
 characters in a pathname.
 
 It's unfortunate that IBM hasn't address this - but it has been around
 for a long, long time. But, I guess there has been little demand, as
 most U2 applications are legacy ones with short filenames and
 accounts names.
 
 You definitely should **NOT** resize your catdir to type 19 (or any
 other filetype)! :)
 
 
 Regards,
 David
 
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 us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Norman, David (Health)
 Sent: Wednesday, 27 May 2009 4:02 PM
 To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
 Subject: [U2] Truncated catdir names
 
 I made an unpleasant discovery when I recataloged (normally) one of my
 accounts (UV10.0, HP-UX).
 Some of the catalog names became too long (e.g.
 *SJ.RR.MAST.DEVELOP*GET.COUNTRY.RESPONSE.SE) and were truncated by the
 catalog
 process (*SJ.RR.MAST.DEVELOP*GET.COUNTRY.RESPONSE.). Unfortunately I
 had
 several programs with similar names (GET.COUNTRY.RESPONSE.ALL, .METRO,
 .NW,
 .RV,  .SE). All of these resulted in the same truncated name so only
1
 catdir
 entry was created, which was for the last one of the 5 cataloged. The
 catdir
 path is ...catdir/*SJ.RR.MAST.DE/VELOP*GET.COUN with a single file of
 *GET.COUN  .
 Trying to run the programs results in a warning File name
 *SJ.RR.MAST.DEVELOP*GET.COUTRY.RESPONSE.SE too long. Truncated to
 *SJ.RR.MAST.DEVELOP*GET.COUNTRY.RESPONSE.
 
 Is this a known limitation ? Why does the directory nesting stop at
the
 2nd
 level ? The VOC entries show the full names.  catdir is type 1 out of
 the
 box.
 
 
 David Norman
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RE: [U2] RE: Truncated catdir names

2009-05-27 Thread Hona, David
I was going to add that in the past it would break stuff...I haven't tried it 
recently!!

I guess you can just make a backup / shutdown UV first whilst people aren't 
accessing the catdir :)


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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of phil walker
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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: Truncated catdir names

Any reason for not resizing catdir as type 19? I have done this and
nothing seems to have broken. In fact I would hope that it would not as
the file type should be transparent to any application.


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 Subject: [U2] RE: Truncated catdir names
 
 Hi David
 
 This probably goes back to the limitations of the original port of
UNIX
 that had the directory name limited and the maximum number of
 characters in a pathname.
 
 It's unfortunate that IBM hasn't address this - but it has been around
 for a long, long time. But, I guess there has been little demand, as
 most U2 applications are legacy ones with short filenames and
 accounts names.
 
 You definitely should **NOT** resize your catdir to type 19 (or any
 other filetype)! :)
 
 
 Regards,
 David
 
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RE: [U2] RE: Another probably simple SB+ issue.

2009-05-05 Thread Jeff Ritchie
David,

Works in text mode and from word etc.

Interestingly enough managed to duplicate the problem. Before clicking the
connect in a SBClient session there's a File option at the top of the window.
Selecting that then selecting Print Options gets a small window up with a
tick box labeled Use Windows Print Drivers. If you click that then carry on
into your session the same issue occurs. Now the real cool part is after
logging off and going back to the Print Options window the Use Windows
Print Drivers is no longer ticked but the issue occurs if you log back onto
the system.

Thinking this has to be some sort of bug in SBClient. Unfort we have zero
support over here, don't even get me started on the Aussie VAR situation, so
am unable to call in the cavalry at this stage.

Maybe if I stuffed up all the PCs I could claim it always worked that way :)

Cheers,
Jeff

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Subject: [U2] RE: Another probably simple SB+ issue.

Hi Jeff

Check the default printer for that PC.  It probably has no printer so it is
saving the print image as a file

Regards

David Jordan

Managing Consultant
da...@dacono.com.au
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RE: [U2] RE: Interest results on VOC file

2009-04-29 Thread Hona, David
It's a feature! For old legacy apps that use the marker (and other 
control/non-printable) characters as part of the key and are too hard to change.

UV lets you turn that feature off, maybe UD does too now.


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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dan McGrath
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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: Interest results on VOC file

Hi Nick,

I had tried checking out the ID's of the keys affected. There was was
nothing unusual about them that I can tell. One was 1 and another was
2.

When attempting to edit them, they didn't exist.

After reading your email, I write a quick test program:

001: OPEN BREAKME TO FH ELSE STOP
003: WRITE 1 TO FH,1:@SM
002: WRITE 2 TO FH,2:@VM
003: WRITE 3 TO FH,3:@AM
004: WRITE 4 TO FH,4:CHAR(10)
005: WRITE 5 TO FH,5:CHAR(13)
Bottom.
*--:

After running it, I did the select/nselect on BREAKME and it came back
with 1 record.

:)

Record 3 didn't exist, the attribute marker is the culprit. Now I need
to find out who has written a program that is causing this, because it
isn't the first time these ghost records have appeared...

It begs a question though. How come Unidata allows a program to write
records with keys that it can not handle without error?

Regards,
Dan

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RE: [U2] Re: [UV] Passing a string when a Matrix is expected

2009-04-16 Thread Brian Whitehorn
INMAT() looks like it may do the job for you. HTH.

  INMAT function
  _

  SYNTAX

INMAT ( [array] )

  DESCRIPTION

 Use the INMAT function to return the number of array  elements
 that  have  been  loaded  after  the  execution  of a MATREAD,
 MATREADL, MATREADU, or MATPARSE statement, or  to  return  the
 modulo of a file after the execution of an OPEN statement. You
 can also use the INMAT  function  after  a  DIM  statement  to
 determine  whether  the  DIM  statement  failed due to lack of
 available memory. If a preceding DIM  statement  fails,  INMAT
 returns a value of 1.

 If the  matrix  assignment  exceeds  the  number  of  elements
 specified  in  its dimensioning statement, the zero element is
 loaded  by  the  MATREAD,  MATREADL,  MATREADU,  or   MATPARSE
 statement. If the array dimensioning is too small and the zero
 element has been loaded, the INMAT function returns a value of
 0.

 If array is specified, the INMAT function returns the  current
 dimensions of the array. If array is the null value, the INMAT
 function fails and the  program  terminates  with  a  run-time
 error message.

  EXAMPLE

DIM X(6)
D='123456'
MATPARSE X FROM D,''
   
Y=INMAT()
PRINT 'Y= ':Y
*
DIM X(5)
A='CBDGFH'
MATPARSE X FROM A,''
C=INMAT()
PRINT 'C= ':C
*
OPEN '','VOC' TO FILE ELSE STOP
T=INMAT()
PRINT 'T= ':T

 This is the program output:

Y= 6
C= 0
T= 23


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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jacques G.
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Subject: [U2] Re: [UV] Passing a string when a Matrix is expected

I came accross a case in legacy code where a subroutine is defined to accept
some matrixes as parameter ei:

SUBROUTINE FOOBAR(TXT, MAT A, MAT B, MAT C, MAT D, OPTION)

One of the calling programs that makes use of this subroutine does this:

CALL FOOBAR(HELLO, , , , , WORLD)

Instead of passing a matrix, it is passing an empty string.  

The result is that in FOOBAR, matrixes  A, B, C and D are of size zero.   In
FOOBAR there is code that does:

MATBUILD REC.A FROM A USING CHAR(1)

Now the MATBUILD command on a matrix of size zero is giving me an undefined
variable in a test program I wrote but in the program in production, it is
giving me the content of a variable in the program.

I was wondering if there is a way to detect if a matrix is of size zero in
Unibasic.   
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Re: [U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #2599

2009-04-12 Thread Kevin King
True, but they will appear in the right order when they arrive and, barring
a failure, they will all arrive.
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Re: [U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #2599

2009-04-09 Thread Kevin King
Kevin, aren't you describing UDP communication, not TCP?  Packets can be
fragged and move through any number of different channels w/ UDP, but
they're reassembled as a part of being received through TCP.  If you sent a
1024 packet over UDP I would expect exactly what you've stated.  Send a 1024
packet through TCP and I'd expect 1024 to arrive, and in order, as long as
there's no failure.  Of course, failures can occur with any protocol, even
those that self-negotiate, so timeouts, dropouts, disconnects, and other
failures have to be addressed in the implementation.

-K
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RE: [U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #2599

2009-04-09 Thread Henry Unger
The issue is that if you send a 1024 byte message through a TCP socket, you
may eventually get 1024 bytes out the other end, but you may not get them
all at once. The message may be broken up into lots of pieces, i.e. if you
do a read(), you may get 1024 bytes, or you may get a lot less, and have to
read() again.

Best regards,

Henry

Henry P. Unger
Hitech Systems, Inc.
http://www.hitech.com

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Kevin, aren't you describing UDP communication, not TCP?  Packets can be
fragged and move through any number of different channels w/ UDP, but
they're reassembled as a part of being received through TCP.  If you sent a
1024 packet over UDP I would expect exactly what you've stated.  Send a 1024
packet through TCP and I'd expect 1024 to arrive, and in order, as long as
there's no failure.  Of course, failures can occur with any protocol, even
those that self-negotiate, so timeouts, dropouts, disconnects, and other
failures have to be addressed in the implementation.

-K
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Re: [U2] RE: UV Timed INPUT

2009-03-12 Thread Charlie Noah
   George,
   I've  run into that before - it's probably network latency. If there's
   nothing  in  your  keyboard  buffer,  your  routine  will  bail.  If a
   multi-character keystroke gets broken between packets, that can happen.
   Experiment with a delay before the INPUT TEST,-1 to allow the network to
   catch up with you. It takes some tweaking, but faster hardware lessens the
   effect. Of course, if you're not networked in any way, then I'm probably all
   wet. I've been there before.
   Regards,
   Charlie Noah
   Inland Truck Parts Company
   George Gallen wrote:

I Tried to write something similar, but kept getting random program lockups or 
universe
   bombouts. What I was trying to do was as letters were being typed, fine tune
 a listing
   to the right. Also, I tried to make a full screen editor, allowing the arrow
s to allow
   the user to move from field to field, and the insert key would function as e
xpected.

Because I was only taking one key at a time, I had to use KEYIN (otherwise back
space wouldn't
   trigger the routine as a key typed, or a function key would be returned as o
nly the first
   character of the key.

Most of the time it worked, just everynow and again, it would blow up, and I co
uld never
   figure out why (although I was told it was most like something in the keyin(
) internally).

The gist of the routine is below: It requires you to roll your own input routin
e, that is
you have to check for an ENTER, and check for a backspace, then remove the 
last char
from BUFFER.

1000:
   INPUT TEST,-1:
   LOOP WHILE(TEST=1) DO
  BUFFER=BUFFER:KEYIN()
  INPUT TEST,-1:
   REPEAT
   RETURN

George

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us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Norman, David (Health)
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:27 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV Timed INPUT

I'm sure I've seen something about this recently, but I've searched the
past 2 years with no luck. I want to do a timed INPUT in UV - if after
n
seconds the Enter key hasn't been pressed, do something.
Anyone got any clever ways of doing this ?

Thanks,

David Norman
Senior Software Engineer - SA Ambulance Service

ICT Services
SA Health
Government of South Australia

Box 3, GPO
Adelaide, South Australia 5001
*+61 8 8274 0384
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Re: [U2] RE: UV Timed INPUT

2009-03-12 Thread Charlie Noah
   George,
   Email me tomorrow at charlien at inlandtruck.com and remind me and I'll
   share some code with you that worked extremely well on Universe, and now on
   Jbase  -  it's  almost  identical. I almost never get those straggling
   characters anymore.
   Charlie
   Charlie Noah wrote:

   George,
   I've  run into that before - it's probably network latency. If there's
   nothing  in  your  keyboard  buffer,  your  routine  will  bail.  If a
   multi-character keystroke gets broken between packets, that can happen.
   Experiment with a delay before the INPUT TEST,-1 to allow the network to
   catch up with you. It takes some tweaking, but faster hardware lessens the
   effect. Of course, if you're not networked in any way, then I'm probably all
   wet. I've been there before.
   Regards,
   Charlie Noah
   Inland Truck Parts Company
   George Gallen wrote:

I Tried to write something similar, but kept getting random program lockups or 
universe
   bombouts. What I was trying to do was as letters were being typed, fine tune
 a listing
   to the right. Also, I tried to make a full screen editor, allowing the arrow
s to allow
   the user to move from field to field, and the insert key would function as e
xpected.

Because I was only taking one key at a time, I had to use KEYIN (otherwise back
space wouldn't
   trigger the routine as a key typed, or a function key would be returned as o
nly the first
   character of the key.

Most of the time it worked, just everynow and again, it would blow up, and I co
uld never
   figure out why (although I was told it was most like something in the keyin(
) internally).

The gist of the routine is below: It requires you to roll your own input routin
e, that is
you have to check for an ENTER, and check for a backspace, then remove the 
last char
from BUFFER.

1000:
   INPUT TEST,-1:
   LOOP WHILE(TEST=1) DO
  BUFFER=BUFFER:KEYIN()
  INPUT TEST,-1:
   REPEAT
   RETURN

George

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us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Norman, David (Health)
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:27 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV Timed INPUT

I'm sure I've seen something about this recently, but I've searched the
past 2 years with no luck. I want to do a timed INPUT in UV - if after
n
seconds the Enter key hasn't been pressed, do something.
Anyone got any clever ways of doing this ?

Thanks,

David Norman
Senior Software Engineer - SA Ambulance Service

ICT Services
SA Health
Government of South Australia

Box 3, GPO
Adelaide, South Australia 5001
*+61 8 8274 0384
* fax +61 8 8271 4844
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RE: [U2] RE: UV - Error when using WHEN [not-secure]

2009-02-04 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
Colin and Ron are correct! A quick I-descriptor to CONVERT 4A to
something else caused proved it.

As soon as I read the first mention of MATCHING... I remembered, with a
sinking feeling, that LIKE is just a synonym for MATCHING... 

Thanks again!

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RE: [U2] RE: UV - Error when using WHEN [not-secure]

2009-02-04 Thread Andy Baum
Use LIKE ...'4A'... to prevent pattern matching

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Subject: [U2] RE: UV - Error when using WHEN [not-secure]

Apologies - no one has gotten a package from me... important or
otherwise!



Apparently something in my e-mail triggered our security appliance to
lock the message. Sorry!





From: Hennessey, Mark F.
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:59 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UV - Error when using WHEN



Solaris 10, UV 10.2.2, Information flavor.



We are seeing some very odd behavior when trying to use SORT / WHEN on a
multi-subvalued field.  And by odd behavior I mean totally incorrect
output...



File Type: Dynamic

File Makeup: The file contains associated multivalues and subvalues.

Issue: When using the when clause with subvalued Field 7 like
'...4a... (DISB LINE column), the only records displayed have PDSB in
field 7  no records with 4A are displayed.





Here's part of what an unconditional SORT looks like...  Notice that
OC34.UD.07 (DISB LINE) has values like 'PDSB', 4A. etc.



SORT OC34UD.WORK.SP16504 OC34UD.01 OC34UD.02 OC34UD.03 OC34UD.04
OC34UD.06 OC34

UD.07 09:27:25  02-03-09  PAGE 1

 LINE.

  PYEAMT ADD.RPTD.AMT SUB.
DISB

OC34UD.KEYCDSTO 2a-2h2a-2hLN 2a-2hAMT DISB
LINE



14464*19030799*27   10.81REP 10.81   10.81
PDSB

14683*20382253*13  509.00VRC509.00  509.00
PDSB

14811*21191410*115.00VRC  5.005.00
PDSB

14840*21417980*1   22   21.00REP 21.00   21.00
PDSB

14859*21512820*11  142.04VRC142.04  142.04
PDSB

14863*21553328*11   20.00VRC 20.00   20.00
PDSB

14865*700369*1  1  900.00VRC900.00  900.00
PDSB

14869*21548157*17   76.14VRC 76.14   76.14
PDSB

14871*21578431*173.89VRC  3.893.89
PDSB

14877*21601594*17   76.14VRC 76.14   76.14
PDSB

14879*21653295*21   61.002E  61.00
4A

14879*21654502*11   78.002E  26.00
7dF

 52.00
4A

14879*21654965*11  232.002E 232.00
4A

14884*21649378*11  379.172E 379.17
4A

14886*21700617*11  432.002E 432.00
4A



Now when we try to limit output to just 4A:



SORT OC34UD.WORK.SP16504 WHEN OC34UD.07 LIKE ...4A... OC34UD.01
OC34UD.02 OC3

4UD.03 OC34UD.04 OC34UD.05 OC34UD.06 OC34UD.07 09:58:32  02-03-09  PAGE
1

   LINE.LINE.

PYE  AMT ADD.  RPTD.  AMT SUB.  SUBTD
DISB

OC34UD.KEY  CDS  TO 2a-2h  2a-2h  LN 2a-2h  2a-2h  AMT DISB
LINE



14464*19030799*2  7 10.81  REP   10.81  2F10.81
PDSB

14683*20382253*1  3509.00  VRC  509.00  2B   509.00
PDSB

14811*21191410*1  1  5.00  VRC5.00  2H 5.00
PDSB

14840*21417980*1 22 21.00  REP   21.00  2C21.00
PDSB

14859*21512820*1  1142.04  VRC  142.04  2F   142.04
PDSB



Any ideas/thoughts are welcome...



Thanks!



Mark
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Re: [U2] RE: UV - Error when using WHEN [not-secure]

2009-02-03 Thread Charles Stevenson
Yes, WHEN can be frustrating.
1st, make sure the multi-valued associated fields are properly defned with
M's in field 6, association name in field 7 and, for good measure, create a
phrase with said association name as the id of the phrase, and all the
associated fields listed in 2.

Then add a BY.EXP to the SORT(or other RetrieVe statement) statement, even
if you don't care about the sort on the values, sub-values.  Just piuck a
field to sort by.  If you really care about sorting by @IDs do that
explicitly as the primary sort, the by.exp sort secondary:


LIST OC34UD.WORK.SP16504BY @ID   BY.EXP OC34UD.01_
OC34UD.01 OC34UD.02 OC34UD.03 OC34UD.04 OC34UD.06 OC34

I was really looking forward to that package.
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RE: [U2] RE: UV - Error when using WHEN [not-secure]

2009-02-03 Thread Colin Alfke
Isn't the ...4A... evaluating to the match string and not the literal?
That means it will match anything with 4 alphanumeric chars???

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Charles Stevenson

Yes, WHEN can be frustrating.
1st, make sure the multi-valued associated fields are properly defned with
M's in field 6, association name in field 7 and, for good measure, create a
phrase with said association name as the id of the phrase, and all the
associated fields listed in 2.

Then add a BY.EXP to the SORT(or other RetrieVe statement) statement, even
if you don't care about the sort on the values, sub-values.  Just piuck a
field to sort by.  If you really care about sorting by @IDs do that
explicitly as the primary sort, the by.exp sort secondary:


LIST OC34UD.WORK.SP16504BY @ID   BY.EXP OC34UD.01_
OC34UD.01 OC34UD.02 OC34UD.03 OC34UD.04 OC34UD.06 OC34

I was really looking forward to that package.
cds
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RE: [U2] RE: UV - Error when using WHEN [not-secure]

2009-02-03 Thread Ron Hutchings
Remember 4A is a valid match qualifier, to look for 4 alphabetic characters.
I experience this sort of behavior and had a real challenge to force it to
find the values for which I was looking.

 Subject: [U2] RE: UV - Error when using WHEN  [not-secure]
 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:03:00 -0500
 From: mark.hennes...@ct.gov
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org

 Apologies - no one has gotten a package from me... important or
 otherwise!



 Apparently something in my e-mail triggered our security appliance to
 lock the message. Sorry!



 

 From: Hennessey, Mark F.
 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:59 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: UV - Error when using WHEN



 Solaris 10, UV 10.2.2, Information flavor.



 We are seeing some very odd behavior when trying to use SORT / WHEN on a
 multi-subvalued field.  And by odd behavior I mean totally incorrect
 output...



 File Type: Dynamic

 File Makeup: The file contains associated multivalues and subvalues.

 Issue: When using the when clause with subvalued Field 7 like
 '...4a... (DISB LINE column), the only records displayed have PDSB in
 field 7  no records with 4A are displayed.





 Here's part of what an unconditional SORT looks like...  Notice that
 OC34.UD.07 (DISB LINE) has values like 'PDSB', 4A. etc.



 SORT OC34UD.WORK.SP16504 OC34UD.01 OC34UD.02 OC34UD.03 OC34UD.04
 OC34UD.06 OC34

 UD.07 09:27:25  02-03-09  PAGE 1

  LINE.

   PYEAMT ADD.RPTD.AMT SUB.
 DISB

 OC34UD.KEYCDSTO 2a-2h2a-2hLN 2a-2hAMT DISB
 LINE



 14464*19030799*27   10.81REP 10.81   10.81
 PDSB

 14683*20382253*13  509.00VRC509.00  509.00
 PDSB

 14811*21191410*115.00VRC  5.005.00
 PDSB

 14840*21417980*1   22   21.00REP 21.00   21.00
 PDSB

 14859*21512820*11  142.04VRC142.04  142.04
 PDSB

 14863*21553328*11   20.00VRC 20.00   20.00
 PDSB

 14865*700369*1  1  900.00VRC900.00  900.00
 PDSB

 14869*21548157*17   76.14VRC 76.14   76.14
 PDSB

 14871*21578431*173.89VRC  3.893.89
 PDSB

 14877*21601594*17   76.14VRC 76.14   76.14
 PDSB

 14879*21653295*21   61.002E  61.00
 4A

 14879*21654502*11   78.002E  26.00
 7dF

  52.00
 4A

 14879*21654965*11  232.002E 232.00
 4A

 14884*21649378*11  379.172E 379.17
 4A

 14886*21700617*11  432.002E 432.00
 4A



 Now when we try to limit output to just 4A:



 SORT OC34UD.WORK.SP16504 WHEN OC34UD.07 LIKE ...4A... OC34UD.01
 OC34UD.02 OC3

 4UD.03 OC34UD.04 OC34UD.05 OC34UD.06 OC34UD.07 09:58:32  02-03-09  PAGE
 1

LINE.LINE.

 PYE  AMT ADD.  RPTD.  AMT SUB.  SUBTD
 DISB

 OC34UD.KEY  CDS  TO 2a-2h  2a-2h  LN 2a-2h  2a-2h  AMT DISB
 LINE



 14464*19030799*2  7 10.81  REP   10.81  2F10.81
 PDSB

 14683*20382253*1  3509.00  VRC  509.00  2B   509.00
 PDSB

 14811*21191410*1  1  5.00  VRC5.00  2H 5.00
 PDSB

 14840*21417980*1 22 21.00  REP   21.00  2C21.00
 PDSB

 14859*21512820*1  1142.04  VRC  142.04  2F   142.04
 PDSB



 Any ideas/thoughts are welcome...



 Thanks!



 Mark
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RE: [U2] RE: UV - Error when using WHEN [not-secure]

2009-02-03 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Aw shucks,

LIST I_Love_it WHEN I.Get.Packages

;-)

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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org]on Behalf Of Hennessey, Mark
F.
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:03 PM
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Subject: [U2] RE: UV - Error when using WHEN [not-secure]


Apologies - no one has gotten a package from me... important or
otherwise!



Apparently something in my e-mail triggered our security appliance to
lock the message. Sorry!





From: Hennessey, Mark F.
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:59 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UV - Error when using WHEN



Solaris 10, UV 10.2.2, Information flavor.



We are seeing some very odd behavior when trying to use SORT / WHEN on a
multi-subvalued field.  And by odd behavior I mean totally incorrect
output...



File Type: Dynamic

File Makeup: The file contains associated multivalues and subvalues.

Issue: When using the when clause with subvalued Field 7 like
'...4a... (DISB LINE column), the only records displayed have PDSB in
field 7  no records with 4A are displayed.





Here's part of what an unconditional SORT looks like...  Notice that
OC34.UD.07 (DISB LINE) has values like 'PDSB', 4A. etc.



SORT OC34UD.WORK.SP16504 OC34UD.01 OC34UD.02 OC34UD.03 OC34UD.04
OC34UD.06 OC34

UD.07 09:27:25  02-03-09  PAGE 1

 LINE.

  PYEAMT ADD.RPTD.AMT SUB.
DISB

OC34UD.KEYCDSTO 2a-2h2a-2hLN 2a-2hAMT DISB
LINE



14464*19030799*27   10.81REP 10.81   10.81
PDSB

14683*20382253*13  509.00VRC509.00  509.00
PDSB

14811*21191410*115.00VRC  5.005.00
PDSB

14840*21417980*1   22   21.00REP 21.00   21.00
PDSB

14859*21512820*11  142.04VRC142.04  142.04
PDSB

14863*21553328*11   20.00VRC 20.00   20.00
PDSB

14865*700369*1  1  900.00VRC900.00  900.00
PDSB

14869*21548157*17   76.14VRC 76.14   76.14
PDSB

14871*21578431*173.89VRC  3.893.89
PDSB

14877*21601594*17   76.14VRC 76.14   76.14
PDSB

14879*21653295*21   61.002E  61.00
4A

14879*21654502*11   78.002E  26.00
7dF

 52.00
4A

14879*21654965*11  232.002E 232.00
4A

14884*21649378*11  379.172E 379.17
4A

14886*21700617*11  432.002E 432.00
4A



Now when we try to limit output to just 4A:



SORT OC34UD.WORK.SP16504 WHEN OC34UD.07 LIKE ...4A... OC34UD.01
OC34UD.02 OC3

4UD.03 OC34UD.04 OC34UD.05 OC34UD.06 OC34UD.07 09:58:32  02-03-09  PAGE
1

   LINE.LINE.

PYE  AMT ADD.  RPTD.  AMT SUB.  SUBTD
DISB

OC34UD.KEY  CDS  TO 2a-2h  2a-2h  LN 2a-2h  2a-2h  AMT DISB
LINE



14464*19030799*2  7 10.81  REP   10.81  2F10.81
PDSB

14683*20382253*1  3509.00  VRC  509.00  2B   509.00
PDSB

14811*21191410*1  1  5.00  VRC5.00  2H 5.00
PDSB

14840*21417980*1 22 21.00  REP   21.00  2C21.00
PDSB

14859*21512820*1  1142.04  VRC  142.04  2F   142.04
PDSB



Any ideas/thoughts are welcome...



Thanks!



Mark
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RE: [U2] RE: Internal Visage

2009-01-19 Thread Ross Ferris
Oops -- obviously I didn't mean to do that. 

(NOTE TO SELF: check email address after outlook auto-completes)

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage  Better by Design!


-Original Message-
From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-
us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2009 10:17 AM
To: Beau Murray
Cc: NILWA; Sally Clark; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RE: Internal Visage

Beau,



I'm trying to hook into the Virtual Server Manager @ NILWA as I've just
had to
restart the Linux virtual ` trying to logon as administrator with our
usual
invisible password with no joy. Created a STAMINA user that I assigned
to
administrator group ... same story



Has anything changed? Is there another user/password I need to be using
to get
access to this console.



Ross Ferris

Stamina Software

Visage  Better by Design!



From: Sally Clark [mailto:sallycl...@nilwa.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2009 8:42 AM
To: Ryan Hafey; Ross Ferris
Cc: NILWA
Subject: Internal Visage



Hi Guys,



We have been experiencing some slow processing speeds this week. No
errors
till this morning just slow moving.



This morning when I opened the BIT viewer to list all cubes I got a
pick
core
dump error (no screen print, I closed out too quick). Could this be
related to
our slow processing speeds?



Cheers

Sally Clark

IT/HUB Manager  Accounts Receivable

National Independent Liquor Wholesalers Association Pty Limited

Phone: 02 4929 5866

Fax: 02 4929 3622

Mobile: 0438 48 77 99
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Re: [U2] RE: Triggers on a NFS file?

2008-10-24 Thread Martin Phillips

Hi Wol,


But, rather more seriously, we have had UV file corruption
which was laid pretty conclusively down to two systems
accessing the same dynamic file - oh and one of them, allegedly,
only had read access!


This is an even worse case of what I brought out in my earlier reply. A 
dynamic file keeps information about its current modulus and load values 
(etc) in shared memory. Having this on two separate systems is a recipe for 
disaster.


UV introduced the ALLOWNFS configuration option long ago with a default 
setting of 0 (no). When I deliver UV training, I take great care to 
emphasise that setting this to 1 (yes) also means it's all my fault if the 
file gets corrupted.



Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton, NN4 6DB
+44-(0)1604-709200 
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RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

2008-10-06 Thread jpb-u2ug
That could be the answer to my question.
Tony, you've got to slow down. We all enjoy your posts on this list and you
would be missed, but, life is too short, smell some roses. You and I don't
know each other personally but I can tell by your writing that you should
probably take a vacation instead of paying for a doctor to take one.

Jerry Banker

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Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 3:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

I enjoy Tonys insights, what I dont understand is how he ever finds the
time to post such long responses not only in here but in cdp and on his own
blog as well



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Subject: Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

Nah, Tony's solid.  A bit stressed out - aren't we all? - and amazingly
comprehensive in his explanations, but SOLID overall.  Then again, not like
he needs my endorsement...

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:59 PM, JPB-U2UG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not offensive, I just think he sounds angry in a lot of his emails. He
 really should watch his blood pressure.
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RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

2008-10-06 Thread Tony G
Holy cow. Um, thanks for the concern.
Now that this thread has gone non-technical, I'll be the first to
request its termination.
Best,
T
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Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

2008-10-04 Thread Kevin King
Nah, Tony's solid.  A bit stressed out - aren't we all? - and amazingly
comprehensive in his explanations, but SOLID overall.  Then again, not like
he needs my endorsement...

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:59 PM, JPB-U2UG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not offensive, I just think he sounds angry in a lot of his emails. He
 really should watch his blood pressure.
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RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

2008-10-04 Thread Symeon Breen
I enjoy Tonys insights, what I dont understand is how he ever finds the
time to post such long responses not only in here but in cdp and on his own
blog as well



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Subject: Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

Nah, Tony's solid.  A bit stressed out - aren't we all? - and amazingly
comprehensive in his explanations, but SOLID overall.  Then again, not like
he needs my endorsement...

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:59 PM, JPB-U2UG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not offensive, I just think he sounds angry in a lot of his emails. He
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RE: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

2008-10-03 Thread jpb-u2ug
Do you wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning?

Jerry Banker


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony G
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 3:59 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

For reference, Windows still stores path/file names internally in
short 8.3 format.  Support for long names and additional
characters was added in Windows 95 as an abstraction (a view)
over that for common usage where non-technical people want to use
file names like:
   J. Jones Budget, 2007-2008 (revised).doc
   Chelsea smashed! at homecoming '07.jpg

Windows was designed to be an operating system for home users and
later became a server.  (Most people forget that PC stands for
Personal Computer.)  Macintosh supported long, friendly
filenames back in 1984 for the same reasons.  Unix is a system
for engineers, not intended to be used by people creating
OS-level filenames for their docs or pictures.

Now, just to be clear, I didn't suggest that DBMS files should be
allowed to have spaces in them, like CUSTOMER MASTER.  I was
giving IBM a little grief for not making use of a file system
enhancement which was added to Windows 13 years ago so that we
can put IBM programs under Program Files.  There's no need for
*nix compatibility at this level, commands like uv, udt,
UniAdmin, and the UniSDK tools are all platform-specific,
OS-level programs, and have nothing to do with the data in the
DBMS.

It's almost understandable that paths to data may give the DBMS
grief if they contain spaces, like:
  D:\Data Sources\ABC Company\UV\Accounts\WAREHOUSE
But even in this case, if ported to *nix anyone would know to
move that to something more appropriate like:
  /home/data/abc_company/uv/acccounts/WAREHOUSE
In either case, the DBMS-level file system should abstract the MV
DBA from OS-level issues.  For example, we should be allowed to
create files like the following without OS-related issues:
  .TEMP
  OPEN-A/R
  CUSTMAST*DEPT
That said, the CREATE.FILE verb should also prevent the creation
of filenames that are commonly agreed as being a bad idea, like
CUSTOMER MASTER.

As always (like case sensitivity) this whole situation is just
another case of engineers who decide not to make changes because
they speak Unix and they expect the rest of the world to do so
as well.  The burden is not on them to make software work for the
target OS but on developers to have to know how another OS works
so that they understand why their own platform isn't working.
That's just lazy and backwards thinking.

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com
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Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

2008-10-03 Thread Allen Egerton

jpb-u2ug wrote:

Do you wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning?


snip

Um, I'm not sure why you found what Tony wrote offensive.  I thought it 
was a reasonable presentation of his point of view.


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Re: [U2] RE: spaces in file names

2008-10-03 Thread JPB-U2UG
Not offensive, I just think he sounds angry in a lot of his emails. He 
really should watch his blood pressure.


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jpb-u2ug wrote:

Do you wake up on the wrong side of the bed every morning?


snip

Um, I'm not sure why you found what Tony wrote offensive.  I thought it 
was a reasonable presentation of his point of view.


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Re: [U2] RE: Ssh connections to Universe DB?

2008-09-29 Thread art

Bob Rasmussen wrote:

I'm exploring a possibility, and would like feedback.

The problem: administrators want the security that SSH offers, but 
Universe (and some others) running on Windows offers only telnet access.


Possible solution:



One possible solution would be to setup a linux PC local to the Universe 
host running a sshd daemon, and configure your windows ssh client to 
connect to the linux PC with automatic port forwarding, that would open 
a standard telnet session thru to the Universe host.  This telnet 
session is then passed automatically back thru the ssh connection to the 
ssh client.  This does require a ssh client that understands port 
forwarding.  I used to setup putty on the windows client to open the ssh 
tunnel for the windows terminal emulator.

Art
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Re: [U2] RE: Ssh connections to Universe DB?

2008-09-25 Thread Bob Rasmussen
I'm exploring a possibility, and would like feedback.

The problem: administrators want the security that SSH offers, but 
Universe (and some others) running on Windows offers only telnet access.

Possible solution:

1) Obtain and run an SSH daemon on the Windows server, such as WinSSHd.

2) Run an SSH client with tunneling capabilities, to connect from a 
Windows desktop, via SSH, to the WinSSHd on the server.

3) Configure that SSH client to do local port forwarding (tunneling) of 
some arbitrary port (say, 1234) on the client PC to port 23 (the telnet 
port) on the server's localhost (that is, the server).

4) Run a (2nd) terminal emulator on the client, connected to the client's 
localhost, port 1234.

The client's SSH receives a connection on its port 1234, and forwards it 
to the server, causing a connection to the server's port 23, where 
Universe's telnetd receives it. Connection is made. Because the tunneled 
connection is within the SSH session, it is authenticated and encrypted.

I just tested this scenario using AnzioWin (our terminal emulator/SSH 
client) and it all appears to work.

Is anyone doing this? Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

It occurs to me that we could add functionality to AnzioWin to allow 
telnet over SSH all in one running program.

Regards,
Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.

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Re: [U2] RE: UNIVERSE on Red Hat?

2008-09-09 Thread Augusto Alonso

Hi.
We have a lot of clients in linux-boxes, with and without cluster.
Most of them are new installations, but others came from Aix, from HP-UX, 
and even from Windows.

No one complaints.

The biggest one has 350 users (rpc sessions): CentOS   2.6.9-34.ELsmp on a 
Xeon 3.40GHz and 5Gb RAM


Don't forget to have at least MFILES 400

And make sure your Universe release is high enough to manage 64bit files, or 
you will be in trouble with your 5Gb file.

(Try doing  RESIZE TESTFILE 18 101 1 64BIT)

Regards,
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I.T. Manager
Quiter Servicios Informaticos
Tel: +34 902 23 33 23
Fax: +34 902 23 42 80
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From: Doug Chanco [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: [U2] RE: UNIVERSE on Red Hat?



Hey all,

First off thanks for the responses I have gotten so far!  A couple
more questions:



1. what kind of systems are you running red hat/universe on (model,
specs, etc )
2. what are you doing for high availability?
3. what are you using for backups (software/type of tape drives)?



These questions are for people running universe on red hat enterprise
server



Thanks again everyone!



Dougc





From: Doug Chanco
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:36 AM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: UNIVERSE on Red Hat?



Hey all,

   Does anyone have any experience running universe on red hat in an
enterprise environment?  I have run UV PE on centos and red hat just
fine BUT I am talking about 400+ users, uniobjects, tons of printers,
etc ..



I would LOVE to hear about enterprise experiences running universe on a
red hat system in particular;



1. any gotchas?
2. any praises?
3. any performance issues?
4. any universe/OS issues?
5. any printing issues?
6. any issues with terminals or termdefs/termcaps?
7. uniobject problems?
8. anything else anyone may have run across that I did not mention



This is really a question for fitzgerlad/long but what about running
FAST on linux? (a wonderful chance for a plug here)



:-)



Any and ALL experiences/thoughts/whatever are welcomed!



IF we move it would be from aix 5.2/universe 10.1 to red hat enterprise
server/universe 10.2 on a beefed up dell server



Our current setup is about



@400 users

@40 printers

@250 uniobjects connections (from a windows app)

Connections from datastage throughout the day

@3000 pick databases



The biggest being @ 5 gig in size



Also while this is not really pick related does anyone have any
experience with flash copy on linux/red hat?  It allows us to unmount
file systems and 'flash copy the data to another area and the remount
the file system and then make a backup from the flash copy area.



Thanks!



Dougc
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RE: [U2] RE: UNIVERSE on Red Hat?

2008-09-05 Thread John Hester
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Chanco
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:56 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] RE: UNIVERSE on Red Hat?
 
 Hey all,
 
  First off thanks for the responses I have gotten so far! 
  A couple
 more questions:
 
 
 
 1.what kind of systems are you running red hat/universe on (model,
 specs, etc )
 2.what are you doing for high availability?
 3.what are you using for backups (software/type of tape drives)?

We're running UV 10.2.7 on RH ES 5.1.  The hardware is a pair of IBM
xSeries 3650s with 2GHz CPUs and 15K rpm hard drives configured in a
2-node HA cluster.  The HA management software is LifeKeeper from
Steeleye.  We've been running on this hardware since sometime in April,
and prior to that we ran UV 10.1.4 with RH AS 3.0 on a pair of IBM
xSeries 345s in the same 2-node HA setup for a little over 3 years.  The
servers have been running contiuously since the upgrade:

 14:58:19 up 139 days,  5:12, 52 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.18, 0.17

There is one gotcha with terminal setup if you use ADDS Viewpoint
emulation.  You'll want to make sure any Viewpoint users have the
following entry in their .bash_profile:

if tty --quiet; then
stty erase '^H'
stty susp undef
fi

Actually, the '^H' backspace fix is needed for any emulation, but
without the susp undef setting, Viewpoint terminal sessions with hang
if the up-arrow key is pressed.

We usually have around 100 terminal users at peak times, and probably
average around 30K UniObjects for Java connections per day from our web
site.

For backups we're currently using a disk-to-disk-to-tape appliance
solution from UniTrends.  The UniTrends appliance dumps 200GB of UV
on-disk backups to a Certance (now Quantum) 8-slot LTO-2 autoloader at
the beginning of each month.  We also do additional redundant backups
before and after our end-of-month batch processing to a 2TB NAS
appliance from Aberdeen.  I just have a script that uses cp -r at the
OS level to copy to an NFS mount for those.

-John
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RE: [U2] RE: U2UG Board Meeting

2008-08-29 Thread Anthony Youngman
Yes, that would be nice BUT!

Ordinary members would be observers, and that's quite difficult to enforce on a 
conference call.

What would be best if the call could be streamed so that anyone could listen 
in, but (unless it's changed) the calls are courtesy of IBM on IBM's equipment, 
and I don't know whether the equipment the board are using even has that 
capability.

Cheers,
Wol (ex board member)

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Sent: 28 August 2008 19:12
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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: U2UG Board Meeting

Consider opening these conference calls up to ordinary U2UG members.

--Bill
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RE: [U2] RE: U2UG Board Meeting

2008-08-28 Thread Brutzman, Bill
Consider opening these conference calls up to ordinary U2UG members.

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Re: [U2] Re: U2 Users Digest V1 #2326

2008-08-19 Thread Charles_Shaffer
That makes perfect sense.  I am only handling UniSessionException and 
UniSubroutineException in the routine.  If I am understanding correctly, I 
should add a catchall exception.  Sort of a KitchenSinkException to 
account for other exceptions.

Thanks a lot.


Charles Shaffer
Senior Analyst
NTN-Bower Corporation




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Charles-
As I read it, the unhandled exception is happening within the U2 object 
when you are trying to execute the Java method PbrGetMgrList.

I never heard of JavaBridge before, but after reading the requirements 
at http://php-java-bridge.sourceforge.net/doc/overview.php, I don't 
think that is the source of the problem (java.inc is a PHP include file, 
and might be referenced through a URL such as 
|once(http://localhost:9090/JavaBridge/java/Java.inc;);|).  You can 
verify that the JavaBridge is working by calling a Java method outside 
of the U2 object prior to calling the PbrGetMgrList method; if it works, 
then something is happening to your U2 object.  I don't have enough to 
troubleshoot any further at this point.

HTH,
David Beahm

 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:23:41 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [U2] Uniobjects for Java

 Hello,

 I am accessing our Unidata server from PHP using the java bridge for a 
few 
 months  It has been working pretty well up until the current project I 
am 
 working on.

 PHP calls a method in a U2 object, which uses Uniobjects for Java to 
 invoke a UniBasic Subroutine on our Unidata 7.1 redhat based server. 
 Recently I have intermittently received the following error message. 
 **
 Fatal error: Uncaught [[o:Exception]:java.lang.Exception: Invoke 
failed: 
 [[o:U2]]-PbrGetMgrList. 
 Cause: java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: PbrGetMgrList(). 
 Candidates: 
 [] Responsible VM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]://java.sun.com/ at: 
 #-5 php.java.bridge.JavaBridge.Invoke(JavaBridge.java:1045) 
 #-4 php.java.bridge.Request.handleRequest(Request.java:405) 
 #-3 php.java.bridge.Request.handleRequests(Request.java:481) 
 #0 java.inc(257): java_ThrowExceptionProxyFactory-getProxy(52, '@N', 
 true) 
 #1 java.inc(473): java_Arg-getResult(true) 
 #2 java.inc(479): java_Client-getWrappedResult(true) 
 #3 java.inc(672): java_Client-getResult() 
 #4 java.inc(1786): java_Client-invokeMethod(51, 'PbrGetMgrList', Array) 

 #5 java.inc(1910): java_JavaProxy-__call('PbrGetMgrList', Array) 
 #6 java.inc(2072): java_AbstractJava-__call('PbrGetMgrList', Array) 
 #7 [internal function]: Java-__call('PbrGetMgrList', Array) 
 #8 /var/www/pbr/pbr.php(14): Java-PbrGetMgrList() 
 #9 {main}] thrown in java.inc on line 220
 
 I am not sure what this is referring to.  I don't find a java.inc 
anywhere 
 on the web server host.

 This works most of the time, but sometimes not.  and I don't see a 
 pattern.  Most of the time it can be fixed by recompiling and 
rejarring 
 the Java object, but that doesn't always fix it.  One thing I wondered 
 about is that this is the first time that I have called a program with 
no 
 input parameters.

 Here is the java code.

 /**
  * @param   none
  * @return  Tab delimited list of MGR_NAMES
  */
 public String PbrGetMgrList() {
 String result = ;
 try {
 OpenU2Session();
 UniSubroutine uSub = 
uSession.subroutine(PbrGetMgrList, 
 1);
 uSub.call();
 result = uSub.getArg(0);
 CloseU2Session();
 } catch (UniSessionException e) {
 result = N;
 } catch (UniSubroutineException e) {
 result = N;
 } finally {
 return result;
 }
 }

 Here is the UniBassic Subroutine code

 $BASICTYPE 'U'
 SUBROUTINE PbrGetMgrList(RESULT)
 
 * Tab delimits data items
 EQU HTABTO CHAR(9)

 
 * Select records for this supervisor
 
 RESULT = 'N'
 ECMD = SELECT MGRACCT.DATA SAVING UNIQUE NAME
 EXECUTE ECMD
 IF @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE = 0 THEN RETURN
 
 ***
 *  Build the list
 ***
 RESULT = ''
 FIRST = 1
 LOOP
 READNEXT ID ELSE ID = ''
 UNTIL ID = ''
 * Insert a delimiter unless this is the first record
 IF FIRST = 0 THEN
 RESULT := HTAB
 END ELSE
 FIRST = 0
 END
 * ADD THE ID
 RESULT := ID
 REPEAT
 

RE: [U2] RE: TCL literal select

2008-08-13 Thread Bruce Ordway
Hi,

I ended up using this from Martin C. (of Epicor fame).
I don't know why none of the TCL examples would work for me.
Something to do with Unidata 5.2 and my particular flavor I guess.

Thanks to you all

 a Virtual Field type dictionary using the INDEX function...
i.e.
001: V  
002: INDEX(F1,'',1)
003:
004:
005: 6L 
006: S

-Original Message-
From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:08 AM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select

Ooops ...

COUNT, not DCOUNT

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony
Youngman
Sent: 13 August 2008 12:01
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select

Rather than writing a simple program ...

SELECT PARTS WITH EVAL DCOUNT(F1, '') GT 0

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: 12 August 2008 21:59
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select

I tried using the lower case SELECT/LIST to use native UniData syntax,
and that did not work.

Try writing a simple program to convert the double quotes to something
else (like a tilda) then search the I-desc for that.

ED BP TILDA
SUBROUTINE TILDA(RTN.VAL, ORIG.VAL)
RTN.VAL = CONVERT(ORIG.VAL, '', '~')
RETURN


ED DICT PARTS F1.TILDA
I
SUBR(TILDA, F1)
...


SELECT PARTS WITH F1.TILDA = [~]



John Israel
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Dayton, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Ordway
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:00 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] TCL literal select

Hi,

I work with a Unidata/Dataflo system on HPUX.
I am having trouble selecting records in my PARTS file.

I want to select all parts that have a  in the description field (F1).
People have been using  instead of INCH.
This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports.

I have tried quite a few select statements with no success.

LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [//]
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = //
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = ['']
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = ''
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = \[]\
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [\\]
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = ''

Wildcards on my system are brackets, [ leading and ] following

Any ideas on what would work?
Somebody showed me once, so I know it can be done.
I lost my notes though.

Thanks,

Bruce Ordway


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RE: [U2] RE: TCL literal select

2008-08-13 Thread Bill Haskett
Bruce:

I think it's UD specifically (even D3 works with a number of the suggestions).  
UD is
very finicky with AQL and drives almost ALL PICK people crazy, and many who 
work both
UD and something else concurrently.

Bill

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Ordway
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:26 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: TCL literal select

Hi,

I ended up using this from Martin C. (of Epicor fame).
I don't know why none of the TCL examples would work for me.
Something to do with Unidata 5.2 and my particular flavor I guess.

Thanks to you all

 a Virtual Field type dictionary using the INDEX function...
i.e.
001: V
002: INDEX(F1,'',1)
003:
004:
005: 6L
006: S

-Original Message-
From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:08 AM
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select

Ooops ...

COUNT, not DCOUNT

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony
Youngman
Sent: 13 August 2008 12:01
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select

Rather than writing a simple program ...

SELECT PARTS WITH EVAL DCOUNT(F1, '') GT 0

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: 12 August 2008 21:59
To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org'
Subject: [U2] RE: TCL literal select

I tried using the lower case SELECT/LIST to use native UniData syntax,
and that did not work.

Try writing a simple program to convert the double quotes to something
else (like a tilda) then search the I-desc for that.

ED BP TILDA
SUBROUTINE TILDA(RTN.VAL, ORIG.VAL)
RTN.VAL = CONVERT(ORIG.VAL, '', '~')
RETURN


ED DICT PARTS F1.TILDA
I
SUBR(TILDA, F1)
...


SELECT PARTS WITH F1.TILDA = [~]



John Israel
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Dayton, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Ordway
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:00 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] TCL literal select

Hi,

I work with a Unidata/Dataflo system on HPUX.
I am having trouble selecting records in my PARTS file.

I want to select all parts that have a  in the description field (F1).
People have been using  instead of INCH.
This causes problems for me during processing some reports and exports.

I have tried quite a few select statements with no success.

LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [//]
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = //
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = ['']
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = ''
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = /''/
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = \[]\
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = [\\]
LIST PARTS WITH F1 = ''

Wildcards on my system are brackets, [ leading and ] following

Any ideas on what would work?
Somebody showed me once, so I know it can be done.
I lost my notes though.

Thanks,

Bruce Ordway


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Re: [U2] RE: SELECT problem with quote characters

2008-08-07 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
Israel, John R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

You need the double quotes on the outside of the ...

SELECT FILE WITH FIELD LIKE ...LLOYD'S...

Alternatively, you can often get away with no quotes.  Loosely 
speaking, you only NEED quotes on the outside if you have spaces in 
your search string, though if you have a single quote in your search 
string, that would likely confuse it.


The problem is, this is a program constructing a select string. I have 
no control over what the user types in, and I want to do a literal 
match. What if they enter something like 6A'S?


Basically, I need to quote the search string to get a literal match, 
which means I need to put quotes outside the dots, which means I need to 
use all three different quote characters, which then doesn't work :-(


Cheers,
Wol
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RE: [U2] RE: SELECT problem with quote characters

2008-08-07 Thread Israel, John R.
OK - I see the problem.

True, it will not work the way it is, but there might be a work around.  If the 
string we are looking for could contain both single and double quotes, we are 
out of luck with the standard way of searching.

However, we could write a simple I-desc that calls a program which would return 
a value where the quotes are replaces with some odd character (like a tilda 
or some non-printing character).  Then have the program tweaked to select on 
the I-desc looking for these odd characters.

For example:
Raw data = LLOYD'S
I-desc = LLOYD~S

Now, instead of:
  SELECT FILE WITH FIELD LIKE ...LLOYD'S...
We would do:
  SELECT FILE WITH I-desc LIKE ...LLOYD~S...

This is not as fancy as you would likely need, but it shows the concept of 
something that should work.

I have also had situations where I needed to determine a non-standard 
delimiter.  To do this, I would build a string of potential characters like:
  DELIMITERS = [EMAIL PROTECTED]*()_+{}[]\|:;?
I would then loop through each of the characters in DELIMITER attempting to 
find a character that was NOT found in the target string.  Once I find one, 
that character is stored in some fashion and used to encrypt/decrypt as needed.

Hopefully, between these two ideas you can get pointed in a useful direction.


John Israel
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Dayton, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony W. 
Youngman
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:26 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] RE: SELECT problem with quote characters

In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Israel, John R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
You need the double quotes on the outside of the ...

SELECT FILE WITH FIELD LIKE ...LLOYD'S...

Alternatively, you can often get away with no quotes.  Loosely
speaking, you only NEED quotes on the outside if you have spaces in
your search string, though if you have a single quote in your search
string, that would likely confuse it.

The problem is, this is a program constructing a select string. I have
no control over what the user types in, and I want to do a literal
match. What if they enter something like 6A'S?

Basically, I need to quote the search string to get a literal match,
which means I need to put quotes outside the dots, which means I need to
use all three different quote characters, which then doesn't work :-(

Cheers,
Wol
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RE: [U2] RE: English phrases

2008-07-28 Thread Dennis Bartlett
 No, they don't...

PA
LIST MASTER _
BY ATTR1 _ 
BREAK.ON ATTR1 _
ATTR2 _
TOTAL ATTR3 _
HEADING this is the best heading you ever saw   'D'PAGE 'PLL' _
ID.SUP _
DET.SUP _
LPTR

Works a bomb! (provided of course you have a file called MASTER with dict
items ATTR1, ATTR2, ATTR3, AND ATTR3 is numeric ;-)

Oh, yeah - put a space before each '_'

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Sorry to bother - I have found that on Universe , all the definitions have
to be listed on attribute 2 instead of being in subsequent attributes as we
can do on our jBASE system.
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RE: [U2] RE: English phrases

2008-07-24 Thread IT-Laure Hansen
You can use the underscore at the end of attributes 2 to 9 to indicate 
continuation on Universe.

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Sorry to bother - I have found that on Universe , all the definitions have to 
be listed on attribute 2 instead of being in subsequent attributes as we can do 
on our jBASE system.

Boyd

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Subject: [U2] English phrases

I am trying to use the same phrase in Universe as I use in jBASE, but it is
not working properly on our Universe systems.

The beginning of my definitions on both jBASE and Universe look like this:

ED DICT DH CA.ATTRS
DICT DH CA.ATTRS (BACS)
Top
.P

001 PH
002 PHONE-CHECK
003 COLL.SCORE
004 CA.AVAILCR
005 SSN.DECEASED
006 SSN.DOD
007 292
008 CA.BK7
009 CA.BK11
010 CA.BK13

The problem with the phrase is that it only lists the first definition in the
phrase.  I just tested by
removing PHONE-CHECK (it is a Basic subroutine call, whereas all the others
are normal, local
definitions), but that is not the issue.  Here is the output:

LIST DH 6793700 CA.ATTRS 10:36:09am  18 Jul 2008  PAGE1
DEBHIST... COLLECTABILITY

6793700   592

1 records listed.

Many more attributes should have been listed.

Any ideas?


Boyd Parks
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RE: [U2] Re: Going to U2 University 2008?

2008-07-17 Thread Stevenson, Charles
One of Janet Oswald's email ad broadcasts for U2U indicated that there
would be pre-conference chargeable tutorials the day before each of
the 4 editions of the conference.  The list of tutorials and their
charges are not yet on the web-site, but she tells me they should be
there tomorrow.  These tutorials have been worthwhile in years past.
I'm holding off on registering for San Diego until I can see those.

I think the regional conference idea is a good one.  I attended the San
Francisco one  2 prior pan-IBM ones, as well as others off and on
dating back to Infocus/VMark days.

Pluses:
+ Cheaper.
+ Shorter.  2 nights lodging only.
+ More targeted. (That 2006 Anaheim Information on Demand event for
all IBM software users was ghastly.  Sure, we got to see Gladys Knight
and the Pips and got in free one night to part of Disneyland where the
music blared that you couldn't network (the primary purpose for the
social events), provided you could even find any fellow U2 users amid
the AIX, Tivoli, DB2, etc. users, almost half of whom seemed to be IBM
employees.)
+ If you attend the later venues, the presenters have honed their show a
bit.
+ The audience seemed a bit more technical last year.  I'm guessing the
lower price  shorter time span allowed companies to send technical
people other than the mucky-mucks who see these conferences like
junkets.
+ More content, less junket.

Minuses:
- You don't see some users from other parts of the world.  I miss that.
- Almost all sessions are presented by IBM staff, since not many
independent presenters want to commit to 4 such events.  I have always
appreciated the presentations by users  independent consultant groups,
myself, so I miss that.
- More content, less junket. (Some people will see that as a minus,
anyway.)

cds

P.S. Pardon me if some of this has already been discussed.  I've been
unsubscribed for a month long vacation.


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Ah, found the U2 University session abstracts:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info/u2/university/index3.jsp
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RE: [U2] Re: Going to U2 University 2008?

2008-07-17 Thread Ray Wurlod
Unfortunately I'll be in the wrong part of the planet for all four sessions.  I 
note that the fourth session (in England) clashes directly with Information on 
Demand 2008 (which is where I will be that particular week).
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RE: [U2] Re: Going to U2 University 2008?

2008-07-16 Thread JPB-U2UG
This is only the second year for U2U. Before that they were part of the
general IBM yearly conferences. They decided that U2 had enough of a
specialized and enthusiastic following that they could have conferences in
multiple areas of the world.

Jerry Banker

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Ah, found the U2 University session abstracts:

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info/u2/university/index3.jsp
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RE: [U2] RE: ODBC problems

2008-07-01 Thread Hona, David S
Is it the same query for both files/tables (that share the same
dictionary)?

Do both your queries work from a different client PC? If so, is there
different client software versions or ODBC clients?

Regards,
david

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Subject: [U2] RE: ODBC problems



What's odd is it looks like it's the PC end getting the query wrong
before it sends it, but I've got two files sharing the same physical
dictionary file and one works while the other one doesn't ... which
implies a data problem ... cue headscratching here ...
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RE: [U2] RE: ODBC problems

2008-07-01 Thread Anthony Youngman
What I did was link to the table in Access, open it, and then click on a column 
to sort it. So it should have been an identical query.

I thought I'd test it - get Dr Dee Bee Spy to monitor me doing it on the table 
that worked - and guess what! That table won't sort now, either!

I thought that would give some credence to David Jordan's idea of the temp 
space, but there's masses of free disk space both on my pc and the server.

And I don't see how it could be permissions, seeing as it works sometimes and 
not others.

As for different client software etc, we're having problems on at least two 
pcs. The one we first noticed it on is running Office (Access) 2007, and my pc 
is running Office (Access) 2003. The ODBC software is identical - installed 
from a 10.2 client CD. Probably (but not definitely) the same CD.

Thing is, we really need to know what's causing it so we can definitely avoid 
the problem - we don't want to install this on our customer's site and then 
have them go down with this problem...

Cheers,
Wol

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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: ODBC problems

Is it the same query for both files/tables (that share the same
dictionary)?

Do both your queries work from a different client PC? If so, is there
different client software versions or ODBC clients?

Regards,
david

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Subject: [U2] RE: ODBC problems



What's odd is it looks like it's the PC end getting the query wrong
before it sends it, but I've got two files sharing the same physical
dictionary file and one works while the other one doesn't ... which
implies a data problem ... cue headscratching here ...
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RE: [U2] RE: ODBC problems

2008-07-01 Thread Kathleene M Hunter
Which U2 and os

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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: ODBC problems

What I did was link to the table in Access, open it, and then click on a
column to sort it. So it should have been an identical query.

I thought I'd test it - get Dr Dee Bee Spy to monitor me doing it on the
table that worked - and guess what! That table won't sort now, either!

I thought that would give some credence to David Jordan's idea of the temp
space, but there's masses of free disk space both on my pc and the server.

And I don't see how it could be permissions, seeing as it works sometimes
and not others.

As for different client software etc, we're having problems on at least two
pcs. The one we first noticed it on is running Office (Access) 2007, and my
pc is running Office (Access) 2003. The ODBC software is identical -
installed from a 10.2 client CD. Probably (but not definitely) the same CD.

Thing is, we really need to know what's causing it so we can definitely
avoid the problem - we don't want to install this on our customer's site and
then have them go down with this problem...

Cheers,
Wol

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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: ODBC problems

Is it the same query for both files/tables (that share the same
dictionary)?

Do both your queries work from a different client PC? If so, is there
different client software versions or ODBC clients?

Regards,
david

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What's odd is it looks like it's the PC end getting the query wrong
before it sends it, but I've got two files sharing the same physical
dictionary file and one works while the other one doesn't ... which
implies a data problem ... cue headscratching here ...
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RE: [U2] RE: ODBC problems

2008-06-30 Thread David Jordan
Hi Anthony

It may be an issue with permissions for the temp directory where the sort is
occurring, whether on the PC or the server.

Regards

David Jordan
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Re: [U2] Re: ODBC Connection Hanging Around

2008-05-28 Thread Richard Taylor
Kevin,

It sounds as though the server is seeing the disconnects, but the client is
not getting the response back to recognize that it is truly disconnected.
Therefore the object is waiting on  a response.   I am not sure if the
driver is thread safe, but I would not count on it.

I might suggest putting all your communications code in a separate module
and subroutine.  Also don't wait on the response since it seems like the
closing is actually happening.  Make all the object variables local to that
module/subroutine so that when that routine exits they will fall out of
scope and should get cleaned up.

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Re: [U2] Re: ODBC Connection Hanging Around

2008-05-28 Thread Kevin King
The client terminates fine.  It's the server session that doesn't
disconnect.  And in a weird twist that I'm still watching, I added a generic
CLOSE statement to close all the files being used by the subroutine before
it returns to the caller and since making that change the server has not
left any connections open.  But like I said, I'm still watching this to see
if this was the silver bullet or merely a coincidence.
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Re: [U2] Re: ODBC Connection Hanging Around

2008-05-28 Thread Kevin King
Well, the CLOSE appears to have been a red herring.  Everything ran fine for
several hours, then all at once a half dozen sessions didn't get
disconnected.  And again it appears to have been when there were a lot of
simultaneous sessions.  I'm leaning more and more to a threading issue with
the Unidata ODBC driver.

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Kevin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The client terminates fine.  It's the server session that doesn't
 disconnect.  And in a weird twist that I'm still watching, I added a generic
 CLOSE statement to close all the files being used by the subroutine before
 it returns to the caller and since making that change the server has not
 left any connections open.  But like I said, I'm still watching this to see
 if this was the silver bullet or merely a coincidence.




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Re: [U2] Re: ODBC Connection Hanging Around

2008-05-28 Thread Scott Richardson
Idea/Suggestion:
Take a look at DOS CMD / Unix CMD netstat -an output on the Server.
If you see a significant amount of sockets in TIME_WAIT state, you may need
to add the TcpTimedWaitDelay parameter to the Registry, (for Windows). There
are ways to modify this in various Unix platforms - you'll need to dig out the
particulars for your 'nix variant.

A lot of applications will call/open a socket, send data, then close the
socket, rather than re-use, and then call a new socket next time. When next
connection is opened, or a lot of connections are opened, perhaps the Server
does not have the free resources to clean up these connection/sockets that
are lingering around, as the OS is designed to perform such clean up in the
background when it has the capacity to do so. Busy Servers may not be able to
free up these resources as fast as they're being called/used. (This behavior
exists across all Windows and Unix platforms).

For Windows, you can add a Registry setting called TcpTimedWaitDelay which
does not exist by default, but it does use a default parameter, (240 I
believe). which may be way too long for many/most applications, especially if
applications do not re-use alread opened socket/ports.  By adding this
parameter as specificed in the MS TechNote, and setting its value to 30
decimal (i.e. 30 seconds), this will help free up significant amounts of
ports stuck in TIME_WAIT state in a significantly faster manner, proving in
more smooth server  network operations and sockets availabilty.

http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/38b8bf76-b7d3-473c-84e
8-e657c0c619d11033.mspx?mfr=true

I have seen this behavior numerous times, across numerous applications and
across numerous platforms, verticals, etc...

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Scott Richardson
Senior Systems Engineer / Consultant
Sr. Product Support Engineer
Marlborough, MA 01752
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 Well, the CLOSE appears to have been a red herring.  Everything ran fine
for
 several hours, then all at once a half dozen sessions didn't get
 disconnected.  And again it appears to have been when there were a lot of
 simultaneous sessions.  I'm leaning more and more to a threading issue with
 the Unidata ODBC driver.

 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Kevin King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The client terminates fine.  It's the server session that doesn't
 disconnect.  And in a weird twist that I'm still watching, I added a
generic
 CLOSE statement to close all the files being used by the subroutine before
 it returns to the caller and since making that change the server has not
 left any connections open.  But like I said, I'm still watching this to
see
 if this was the silver bullet or merely a coincidence.
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RE: [U2] RE: U2 - SQL Server ODBC Connection via Universe[AD]

2008-05-09 Thread Tony G
Since this is an Ad sub-thread and recent topics ask related
questions, I'll add two points:

1) Nebula Research and Development has partnered with a large
global company that specializes in providing end-to-end Business
Intelligence solutions.  We're days away from posting information
on our website about our new offerings.  Our goal is to
facilitate the choice and implementation of common mainstream BI
tools (including Cognos and Business Objects) for use with MV
applications.  You read it here first...

2) mv.NET is capable of moving data back and forth between U2 and
relational environments via .NET DataSets.  For all of these
questions involving data exchanges with relational environments,
mv.NET is worthy of consideration.  I've written a bit on
MV/relational exchanges in my blog:
   remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog
See: MV and Relational Data Exchanges Part 1
and: Cross-MV development made easy.er
Those and some other articles should provide some insight, search
for sql, relational, and other keywords if you wish.

I'll post a note on the blog in a couple days when the BI info is
up.

HTH
Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com
Nebula RD sells mv.NET and DesignBais worldwide,
and provides related development and training services





 

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 Has anyone had success in setting up a ODBC connection from 
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 MS SQL Server 2005?  We are needing to get data imported into 
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 and I was hoping that there is an easy way for UniVerse to 
 connect to
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RE: [U2] Re: Damaged files

2008-04-11 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
What's the error message? What commands get you the error (analyze.file
doesn't, so it's not completely hosed).

Generally, a broken file occurs when one of two things occur (these are just
the most frequent; there are other ways): a write to overflow (and you got
overflow!) begins, writes the forward link, then doesn't complete in writing
the backward link (blink error). Perhaps it got distracted by a particularly
fetching barista g. Looking at errpt is a good idea for you; if there's a
hardware problem causing it, you wanna catch it asap. This is one reason we
like to avoid overflow: your risk of breaking a file increases with each link
to overflow created. The second most likely cause is when something else is
writing to your file; maybe there are uv jobs running out of cron that update
something, but aren't in phantom  you use commons to open files. Perhaps
there is some sequential write occurring to the file.

Anyway, start by resizing that to reduce the overflow  therefore your risk.
I'd at least double the mod, and at a rough pass, I'd say 2.5 times that mod
would be a good guess - I often find that a well-sized file will have physical
bytes to data bytes in a 2:1 ratio. The mod*sep*512 on this file is about 6g.
 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:14:37 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Re: Damaged files  I'm sure
someone will ask, so here is the FILE.STAT of our damaged file:  FILE.STAT
... File name = [removed] File type = 18 Number of groups in file (modulo)
= 1464863 Separation = 8 Number of records = 4494202 Number of physical
bytes = 11519762432 Number of data bytes = 8015319848  Average number of
records per group = 3.0680 Average number of bytes per group = 5471.7198
Minimum number of records in a group = 0 Maximum number of records in a group
= 8  Average number of bytes per record = 1783.4801 Minimum number of bytes
in a record = 32 Maximum number of bytes in a record = 3138752  Average
number of fields per record = 146.2144 Minimum number of fields per record =
1 Maximum number of fields per record = 5707  Groups 25% 50% 75% 100% 125%
150% 175% 200% full 72507 139475 227723 274491 215462 150922 103011 281272 
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RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

2008-04-01 Thread John Jenkins
Some Anti-Virus software still hogs your system even if you disable it - you
need to *REMOVE*.

Feel free to email me directly me for names and pack drill offline (not
wanting to offend the guilty etc).

If in doubt: remove and reboot. If the problem goes away then job done..

Regards

JayJay

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Good Morning John,

 Our Network Manager asked why you recommended removing the anti-virus
software vs. disabling them. Could/would you please share your rationale
for making that recommendation?

 The feedback I am getting as a result of this posting has been
incredibly helpful.

Rob Smith
Philadelphia University

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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:29 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

Ibd start by looking for specific bottlenecks.  Itbs too easy to see
one of the system constraints and assume that's your bottleneck (been
there). Run some mete

As others have said, see a specific bottleneck first then take it from
there.
Some suggestions on things to look at in Windows and hardware - I'm
assuming all the usual has been done inside UniData itself.
__

Anti-Virus software killing you?
REMOVE it first for the avoidance of doubt - then decide.  Donbt just
reconfigure or disable - REMOVE. Tweak afterwards - know whether itbs
worth tweaking first.

Paging (yes/no/how much)?

Disk performance
*read
*write
*wait I/O

Are you using RAID? 
Should be 0+1, try and avoid RAID 5
Use hardware RAID not software
Turn off read-ahead, optimise for random, not sequential Steps vary for
different SANS (Hitachi / Veritas / Shark etc).

If using an external SAN:
* has the memory battery failed? (turns off write caching - a killer)

Put paging space on a separate disk, and UniData TMP also.

* Do you have remote mirroring on the SAM turned on (requiring remote
commit on writes can be a killer).
_

If 3Gb is does turn out to be an issue consider Unix, much better memory
management. Linux on your x86 platform seems the logical move (same
hardware). You also get better CPU resource usage on Unix then Windows.
Memory could be a bottleneck for you, but Ibd be surprised. The usual
memory related issues I see on Windows (or Unix come to that) are due to
file import/export programs READING and WRITING truly enormous text
files from the O/S file structures. READSEQ and WRITESEQ are the cure
there/

Regards

JayJay


From: Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning,



 We are a UNIDATA shop and presently we are struggling with identifying
the best way to increase the performance level of our environment. We
presently are running UD on a Windows Enterprise server (SP2) with 16gig
of ram and 8 - 3gig processors. We have read through some MS Knowledge
Base articles that suggest a possible performance increase if we use the
/PAE and /3GB boot.ini switches. We were wondering whether anyone has
deployed these settings before and if there were any problems that
resulted...with either the OS or database.



 Does anyone have any suggestions regarding ways to increase UD
performance levels in a Win2k3 environment?



Thanks in advance,

Rob Smith

Philadelphia University
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RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

2008-03-31 Thread Anthony Youngman
Firstly, you should NEVER run AV software on a database server. It's known for 
causing performance issues. By all means run a scan on the database from a 
remote machine via a share ...

And you don't want it installed on the db server, because a lot of these things 
have a nasty habit of self-activating, or leaving dlls in the autoload, or 
whatever.

AV software mucks about in the guts of the OS, and caution teaches you not to 
trust it ...

Cheers,
Wol

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Robert
Sent: 31 March 2008 14:46
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

Good Morning John,

 Our Network Manager asked why you recommended removing the anti-virus
software vs. disabling them. Could/would you please share your rationale
for making that recommendation?

 The feedback I am getting as a result of this posting has been
incredibly helpful.

Rob Smith
Philadelphia University

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Jenkins
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:29 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

Ibd start by looking for specific bottlenecks.  Itbs too easy to see
one of the system constraints and assume that's your bottleneck (been
there). Run some mete

As others have said, see a specific bottleneck first then take it from
there.
Some suggestions on things to look at in Windows and hardware - I'm
assuming all the usual has been done inside UniData itself.
__

Anti-Virus software killing you?
REMOVE it first for the avoidance of doubt - then decide.  Donbt just
reconfigure or disable - REMOVE. Tweak afterwards - know whether itbs
worth tweaking first.

Paging (yes/no/how much)?

Disk performance
*read
*write
*wait I/O

Are you using RAID?
Should be 0+1, try and avoid RAID 5
Use hardware RAID not software
Turn off read-ahead, optimise for random, not sequential Steps vary for
different SANS (Hitachi / Veritas / Shark etc).

If using an external SAN:
* has the memory battery failed? (turns off write caching - a killer)

Put paging space on a separate disk, and UniData TMP also.

* Do you have remote mirroring on the SAM turned on (requiring remote
commit on writes can be a killer).
_

If 3Gb is does turn out to be an issue consider Unix, much better memory
management. Linux on your x86 platform seems the logical move (same
hardware). You also get better CPU resource usage on Unix then Windows.
Memory could be a bottleneck for you, but Ibd be surprised. The usual
memory related issues I see on Windows (or Unix come to that) are due to
file import/export programs READING and WRITING truly enormous text
files from the O/S file structures. READSEQ and WRITESEQ are the cure
there/

Regards

JayJay


From: Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning,



 We are a UNIDATA shop and presently we are struggling with identifying
the best way to increase the performance level of our environment. We
presently are running UD on a Windows Enterprise server (SP2) with 16gig
of ram and 8 - 3gig processors. We have read through some MS Knowledge
Base articles that suggest a possible performance increase if we use the
/PAE and /3GB boot.ini switches. We were wondering whether anyone has
deployed these settings before and if there were any problems that
resulted...with either the OS or database.



 Does anyone have any suggestions regarding ways to increase UD
performance levels in a Win2k3 environment?



Thanks in advance,

Rob Smith

Philadelphia University
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Re: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

2008-03-31 Thread Scott Richardson

As far as removing the AV altogether?
One reason (in Microsoft at least), is file system filter drivers.
AV applications, and many other applications, are adding these fsfd's into 
their products. Another reason, on any platform, is the intense and constant 
struggle  constraint  for server platform resources between the number of 
applications Server paltofrms are running these days:


- File system fragmentation.
- Un-Delete applications.
- Anti-Virus Applications.
- Security applications.
- Various snap shot technologies.
- Backup products.
- Replication products.

Low overhead, detailed performance monitoring, 24x7x365, tells you all these 
things and more, not only in U2 but across the entire application server 
technology spectrum.


Remember when application servers had scheduled downtime, for periodic 
platform maintenance? Disk integrity checks, defragmentation, etc? Patches 
and updates applied?  These days, it can almost take an act of congress at 
some places to get a server reboot accomplished.


Remember when hardware vendors ran industry standard benchmarks and 
characterization - simulation testing, to push Systems / Servers under real 
life application load to see how to best, code, configure  tune them?


Seems like these functions have fairly much fallen by the wayside, left to 
the individual company/organization, due to the uniqueness  peculiaralities 
of your actual mileage may vary, and explosion of technology that has 
occurred over the years. This is not a bad thing, necessarily, but how does 
a company / organization or indivdual go about such montioring, in any given 
environment, be it production or pre-production, without the overhead of 
such montioring interfereing in the performance of the platform?


How does one know, in their specific environment, with their given hardware 
platforms, network configurations, user loads, and data set sizes, and 
operational business dynamics, what is normal performance, what is 
bottle-necked or throttling server platform performance, and why? It is 
predictable? Is it a problem that can be fixed, re-coded, adjusted, tuned, 
or configured better? More hardware required? What is the cost of running 
multple applications at once and where/when do they conflict for 
resources? What resources? Why?  How does my Windows application server 
platform performance compare with a similar Linux or other Unix platform 
performance, apples to apples??  Can my current application server 
platform support our anticipated growth ? How much will running month-end 
impact our normal business processing cycles?


It's always a lot easier when debugging any problem, tuning any application 
or server platform, or explaining / justifying capital expenses, (or even 
justifying a reboot!), to have easy to see/understand detailed graphical, 
factual and specific current real-time data to help point out the 
operational dynamics of any problem in terms everyone can see/understand, 
and then pro-actively monitor and verify as time moves forward, in real 
time, and changes are made in hopes of alleviating or resovling the problem. 
Have proof positive that your suggestion or changes did indeed identify 
and/or resolve a problem.


Coming from an operational, uptime, and perfomance minded server platforms 
used in business background, I can not understand why 
companies/organizations/individuals would not want/need/require such data 
pro-actively, to continually improve, justify, and ensure that your 
technology infastructure is delivering all it can, 24x7x365.


/ad on
Performance Montoring technology exisits to allow very similar, very 
detailed server wide and process level montioring of numerous diverse Server 
application platforms; hardware, operating systems and 
databases/applications - in one common interface, with extremely low 
overhead  foot print.


- multiple processors / cores
- distributed applications
- network configuration and throughput
- storage sub-systems
- Windows
- Linux
- AIX
- Solaris

One such performance monitoing application can be found at  deltek.us
/ad off

(PS: I tried real hard to not jump into this one, but in the end, I could 
not help myself - as I deal with this stuff all the time, successfully ;^).


Regards,
Scott Richardson
Senior Systems Engineer / Consultant
Product Support Engineer
Marlborough, MA 01752

DPMonitor - http://www.deltek.us


- Original Message - 
From: Smith, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning John,

Our Network Manager asked why you recommended removing the anti-virus
software vs. disabling them. Could/would you please share your rationale
for making that recommendation?

The feedback I am getting as a result of this posting has been
incredibly helpful.

Rob Smith
Philadelphia University

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL

RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

2008-03-30 Thread Jeff Fitzgerald
And, if you find the bottleneck is I/O don't neglect looking at file
sizing of your UniData files.  Badly sized files can drag a system down
regardless of hardware and OS tweaks.

Jeff Fitzgerald
Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Jenkins
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:29 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

Ibd start by looking for specific bottlenecks.  Itbs too easy to see
one of the system constraints and assume that's your bottleneck (been
there). Run some mete

As others have said, see a specific bottleneck first then take it from
there.
Some suggestions on things to look at in Windows and hardware - I'm
assuming all the usual has been done inside UniData itself.
__

Anti-Virus software killing you?
REMOVE it first for the avoidance of doubt - then decide.  Donbt just
reconfigure or disable - REMOVE. Tweak afterwards - know whether itbs
worth tweaking first.

Paging (yes/no/how much)?

Disk performance
*read
*write
*wait I/O

Are you using RAID? 
Should be 0+1, try and avoid RAID 5
Use hardware RAID not software
Turn off read-ahead, optimise for random, not sequential Steps vary for
different SANS (Hitachi / Veritas / Shark etc).

If using an external SAN:
* has the memory battery failed? (turns off write caching - a killer)

Put paging space on a separate disk, and UniData TMP also.

* Do you have remote mirroring on the SAM turned on (requiring remote
commit on writes can be a killer).
_

If 3Gb is does turn out to be an issue consider Unix, much better memory
management. Linux on your x86 platform seems the logical move (same
hardware). You also get better CPU resource usage on Unix then Windows.
Memory could be a bottleneck for you, but Ibd be surprised. The usual
memory related issues I see on Windows (or Unix come to that) are due to
file import/export programs READING and WRITING truly enormous text
files from the O/S file structures. READSEQ and WRITESEQ are the cure
there/

Regards

JayJay


From: Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning,



 We are a UNIDATA shop and presently we are struggling with identifying
the best way to increase the performance level of our environment. We
presently are running UD on a Windows Enterprise server (SP2) with 16gig
of ram and 8 - 3gig processors. We have read through some MS Knowledge
Base articles that suggest a possible performance increase if we use the
/PAE and /3GB boot.ini switches. We were wondering whether anyone has
deployed these settings before and if there were any problems that
resulted...with either the OS or database.



 Does anyone have any suggestions regarding ways to increase UD
performance levels in a Win2k3 environment?



Thanks in advance,

Rob Smith

Philadelphia University
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RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures {Unclassified}

2008-03-30 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
For what it's worth, that's why when we recently upgraded out UniVerse /
Windows2003 Production server, I specifically said don't get more than
4GB. To use more than that, with a 32-bit Windows platform, you need to
use the /PAE and /3GB switches. I think you may also need to use Win2K3
Enterprise or DataCenter versions. I didn't want to make our UV server
the first one in our network to be configured that way, so we 'stayed
small'

If you want to use more than 4GB RAM with Windows, you really need to go
to the Windows Server 64-bit editions, and you'd want to check the
Availability Matrix to see which releases of UD are qualified.

My $NZ0.02


Regards


Mike

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Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 9:31 a.m.
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

Hi Jeff,

 We have since come to realize that the /3gig switch is not for us. What
we are trying to do is be proactive to hopefully avoid a problem
situation. Late last year we were forced to move to the latest version
of the vendor software we use. Under the previous version, our
registration process ran like a charm. It took a while for us to get to
that plateau but once we had achieved it...life was good. This new
software has a number of challenges that we've been able to address
however, this coming month will be the first time we've used it for
student registration. We only recently realized that because we are a
Win2k3 32bit client that is *not* using SQL Server, we really can't take
advantage of some of the advanced memory options available. Because of
the way Windows manages memory, we effectively only have control of
memory in the 4gig window. And to make matters worse, said 4gig window
is sub-divided between user and kernel activities. So after monitoring
system activities using RRDTOOL over a period of time, we realized that
everything we are doing on the app server is crammed into 2.5gig...this
is a 16gig box. We discovered that if our vendors' software had made use
of the AWE API that allows for better memory management, we would be in
a better position...but they don't and we're not. We have run
registration simulations and have discovered approximately when
registration will crash...but we doubt (and hope) we will ever reach
that level of activity.  

 You mentioned UD settings below. Would you mind sharing yours with us? 

Thanks,
Rob Smith
Philadelphia University

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Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:22 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

All the /3gig switch does for you is allow more memory to be available.
You would still need to make settings in Unidata to take advantage of
the additional memory.  Unless I'm getting the /3gig switch confused
with the SQL settings.

I'd also start with turning off hyper threading on the processors if
you're using that just to see if it helps.  Although I'm not sure if 7.1
has these kinds of problems or not.

Jeffrey Lettau
ERP Systems Manager
polkaudio


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Subject: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



From: Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning,



 We are a UNIDATA shop and presently we are struggling with identifying
the best way to increase the performance level of our environment. We
presently are running UD on a Windows Enterprise server (SP2) with 16gig
of ram and 8 - 3gig processors. We have read through some MS Knowledge
Base articles that suggest a possible performance increase if we use the
/PAE and /3GB boot.ini switches. We were wondering whether anyone has
deployed these settings before and if there were any problems that
resulted...with either the OS or database.



 Does anyone have any suggestions regarding ways to increase UD
performance levels in a Win2k3 environment?



Thanks in advance,

Rob Smith

Philadelphia University
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RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

2008-03-29 Thread John Jenkins
Ibd start by looking for specific bottlenecks.  Itbs too easy to see one of 
the system constraints and assume that's your bottleneck (been there). Run some 
mete

As others have said, see a specific bottleneck first then take it from there.
Some suggestions on things to look at in Windows and hardware - I'm assuming 
all the usual has been done inside UniData itself.
__

Anti-Virus software killing you?
REMOVE it first for the avoidance of doubt - then decide.  Donbt just 
reconfigure or disable - REMOVE. Tweak afterwards - know whether itbs worth 
tweaking first.

Paging (yes/no/how much)?

Disk performance
*read
*write
*wait I/O

Are you using RAID? 
Should be 0+1, try and avoid RAID 5
Use hardware RAID not software
Turn off read-ahead, optimise for random, not sequential Steps vary for 
different SANS (Hitachi / Veritas / Shark etc).

If using an external SAN:
* has the memory battery failed? (turns off write caching - a killer)

Put paging space on a separate disk, and UniData TMP also.

* Do you have remote mirroring on the SAM turned on (requiring remote commit on 
writes can be a killer).
_

If 3Gb is does turn out to be an issue consider Unix, much better memory 
management. Linux on your x86 platform seems the logical move (same hardware). 
You also get better CPU resource usage on Unix then Windows. Memory could be a 
bottleneck for you, but Ibd be surprised. The usual memory related issues I 
see on Windows (or Unix come to that) are due to file import/export programs 
READING and WRITING truly enormous text files from the O/S file structures. 
READSEQ and WRITESEQ are the cure there/

Regards

JayJay


From: Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning,



 We are a UNIDATA shop and presently we are struggling with identifying
the best way to increase the performance level of our environment. We
presently are running UD on a Windows Enterprise server (SP2) with 16gig
of ram and 8 - 3gig processors. We have read through some MS Knowledge
Base articles that suggest a possible performance increase if we use the
/PAE and /3GB boot.ini switches. We were wondering whether anyone has
deployed these settings before and if there were any problems that
resulted...with either the OS or database.



 Does anyone have any suggestions regarding ways to increase UD
performance levels in a Win2k3 environment?



Thanks in advance,

Rob Smith

Philadelphia University
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RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

2008-03-28 Thread Symeon Breen
I may be mistaken but the /3gig means an individual process can take over 2gig 
ram at any one time. So you need to use your task monitor to see if your udt 
processes are reaching this limit. Personally I very much doubt it, but you 
certainly need to see where the limits are.




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Sent: 28 March 2008 15:51
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



From: Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning,



 We are a UNIDATA shop and presently we are struggling with identifying
the best way to increase the performance level of our environment. We
presently are running UD on a Windows Enterprise server (SP2) with 16gig
of ram and 8 - 3gig processors. We have read through some MS Knowledge
Base articles that suggest a possible performance increase if we use the
/PAE and /3GB boot.ini switches. We were wondering whether anyone has
deployed these settings before and if there were any problems that
resulted...with either the OS or database.



 Does anyone have any suggestions regarding ways to increase UD
performance levels in a Win2k3 environment?



Thanks in advance,

Rob Smith

Philadelphia University
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RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

2008-03-28 Thread Smith, Robert
Hi Jeff,

 We have since come to realize that the /3gig switch is not for us. What
we are trying to do is be proactive to hopefully avoid a problem
situation. Late last year we were forced to move to the latest version
of the vendor software we use. Under the previous version, our
registration process ran like a charm. It took a while for us to get to
that plateau but once we had achieved it...life was good. This new
software has a number of challenges that we've been able to address
however, this coming month will be the first time we've used it for
student registration. We only recently realized that because we are a
Win2k3 32bit client that is *not* using SQL Server, we really can't take
advantage of some of the advanced memory options available. Because of
the way Windows manages memory, we effectively only have control of
memory in the 4gig window. And to make matters worse, said 4gig window
is sub-divided between user and kernel activities. So after monitoring
system activities using RRDTOOL over a period of time, we realized that
everything we are doing on the app server is crammed into 2.5gig...this
is a 16gig box. We discovered that if our vendors' software had made use
of the AWE API that allows for better memory management, we would be in
a better position...but they don't and we're not. We have run
registration simulations and have discovered approximately when
registration will crash...but we doubt (and hope) we will ever reach
that level of activity.  

 You mentioned UD settings below. Would you mind sharing yours with us? 

Thanks,
Rob Smith
Philadelphia University

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lettau, Jeff
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:22 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

All the /3gig switch does for you is allow more memory to be available.
You would still need to make settings in Unidata to take advantage of
the additional memory.  Unless I'm getting the /3gig switch confused
with the SQL settings.

I'd also start with turning off hyper threading on the processors if
you're using that just to see if it helps.  Although I'm not sure if 7.1
has these kinds of problems or not.

Jeffrey Lettau
ERP Systems Manager
polkaudio


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Subject: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



From: Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning,



 We are a UNIDATA shop and presently we are struggling with identifying
the best way to increase the performance level of our environment. We
presently are running UD on a Windows Enterprise server (SP2) with 16gig
of ram and 8 - 3gig processors. We have read through some MS Knowledge
Base articles that suggest a possible performance increase if we use the
/PAE and /3GB boot.ini switches. We were wondering whether anyone has
deployed these settings before and if there were any problems that
resulted...with either the OS or database.



 Does anyone have any suggestions regarding ways to increase UD
performance levels in a Win2k3 environment?



Thanks in advance,

Rob Smith

Philadelphia University
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RE: [U2] RE: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures

2008-03-28 Thread Marc Harbeson
I would like to see an individual UDT session consume over 2 gig hehehehe..

My largest one is 27M and itbs a service phantom executing other jobs.

On this wide open topic with no guidance as to what the performance issue is - 
we're just throwing rocks at the wall...  For all we know it could be a disk 
performance issue.

I would be interested in how many user sessions we're talking about on this 
large box as well.  :-)

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I may be mistaken but the /3gig means an individual process can take over 2gig 
ram at any one time. So you need to use your task monitor to see if your udt 
processes are reaching this limit. Personally I very much doubt it, but you 
certainly need to see where the limits are.




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From: Smith, Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: UNIDATA 7.1 performance measures



Good Morning,



 We are a UNIDATA shop and presently we are struggling with identifying
the best way to increase the performance level of our environment. We
presently are running UD on a Windows Enterprise server (SP2) with 16gig
of ram and 8 - 3gig processors. We have read through some MS Knowledge
Base articles that suggest a possible performance increase if we use the
/PAE and /3GB boot.ini switches. We were wondering whether anyone has
deployed these settings before and if there were any problems that
resulted...with either the OS or database.



 Does anyone have any suggestions regarding ways to increase UD
performance levels in a Win2k3 environment?



Thanks in advance,

Rob Smith

Philadelphia University
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RE: [U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #2120

2008-03-18 Thread IT-Laure Hansen
Thanks to all of you for pointing me to UVAdmin for the account access
control. This is the answer I needed. 


Laure Hansen,
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Information Technology
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Redwood City, CA 94063
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Laure,
The easiest way to handle this situation to use UniAdmin.  Expand
Network Services and double-click on Telnet.  On the first tab
(Parameters), set the User Policy to UV Account and press the Save
button.  Now, Click on the Users tab, click Add User and Enter the
user name.  

NOTE: the user name is case sensitive, you must type the user exactly as
it is entered when you set up the user in Windows.  If it is a domain
user, you must include the domain.  ALSO, if the user has admin rights,
they will always be prompted for the account.

If you aren't familiar with UniAdmin feel free to send me an email and
I'll send you a word document that provides greater details.

Tom
RATEX Business Solutions
Plymouth Meeting, PA

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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:58:54 -0700
From: IT-Laure Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [U2] Windows 2003 server security on new users

Universe 10.2 on Win2003 server SP2 (but was happening before SP2 as
well): our set-up requires that users get created with the path to a
valid Universe account in the user's profile tab. As soon as I do this,
using the admin login on the server, the original permissions on the
account are removed and all that remains are administrator and the new
user. This is not acceptable, as Universe requires wide-open security
(the effect of this is that other users can no longer even log to the
account).

I've been creating new users after hours because of this, and it's
starting to drive me nuts!

Does anyone know of a fix, either via change to Windows security
policies, hotfixes etc?

Thanks,

Laure Hansen,
City of Redwood City
Information Technology
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Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-02-05 Thread MAJ Programming
Actually, what was the VAR's reason for switching.

One of my client's VAR's forced a switch from UV to UD around 9 years ago
when they went from a green-screen app to having rewritten their package
with SB. Not SB GUI but regular SB. SB GUI came later for those newer
clients.

Thanks
Mark Johnson
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  -Original Message-
  From: MAJ
   So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2?
   Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV
   platforms and have my opinions on each.

 Because our VAR told use they wouldn't support their product on D3 any
 longer. grin

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Re: [U2] Re: PCL: command

2008-02-05 Thread Rex Gozar

Mark,

Could you post your version of PCL.INCLUDE on PickWiki.com or the U2UG wiki?

rex

MAJ Programming wrote:

I'm surprised someone in any MV hasn't submitted a comprehensive PCL.INCLUDE
that would help many of these requests.

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RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-02-05 Thread Norman Morgan
I can't speak authoritatively for Prelude (Activant), but I suspect they
more or less followed where SB+ went.  They made a tremendous effort to
convert their whole application from all legacy code to SB+ about 13
years ago.  Perhaps it was general fear for the future of D3, perhaps it
was fear that SB+ would cease to be supported on D3, or perhaps since
IBM owned the whole mess and they were IBM business partners, they
thought it was the prudent thing to do.

From our standpoint, we were happy with D3.  It did everything we needed
and I really liked FlashConnect for web connectivity.  But we were about
3 major versions behind on the Prelude application code and wanted some
of the newer features.  When Prelude said they would not support the
newer versions on D3, we were forced to switch. Conversion by coercion.

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 Programming
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:14 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
 
 Actually, what was the VAR's reason for switching.
 
 One of my client's VAR's forced a switch from UV to UD around 
 9 years ago when they went from a green-screen app to having 
 rewritten their package with SB. Not SB GUI but regular SB. 
 SB GUI came later for those newer clients.
 
 Thanks
 Mark Johnson
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 Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:13 AM
 Subject: RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: MAJ
So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2?
Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked 
 on many MV 
platforms and have my opinions on each.
 
  Because our VAR told use they wouldn't support their 
 product on D3 any 
  longer. grin
 
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RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-02-04 Thread Norman Morgan
 -Original Message-
 From: MAJ
  So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2?
  Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV 
  platforms and have my opinions on each.

Because our VAR told use they wouldn't support their product on D3 any
longer. grin

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Re: [U2] Re: PCL: command

2008-02-04 Thread Francis Bennett
David,

For commands with the same prefix (2 characters after ESC), change the last
character to lower case in all commands except the last.  In any case there
shouldn't be a problem just concatenating the commands.  Most printer
manufacturers have downloadable  manuals which include PCL defintions - if
not refer to HP, who invented it!

Francis

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Subject: [U2] Re: PCL: command


 hello,

 how do you write multiple PCL command in one program,
 I have a program that I need to write a compress 8pt
 arial narrow and another font within the same letter.

 Right now I am using esc(s20H and the printout
 compress it but the height stayed so I have a visible
 space between lines.

 any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 thanks!






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Re: [U2] Re: PCL: command

2008-02-04 Thread MAJ Programming
I'm surprised someone in any MV hasn't submitted a comprehensive PCL.INCLUDE
that would help many of these requests.

I have one that I use for 60% of what I need (pitch, orientation, typefaces,
some line graphics and other simple functions) but I'm sure there could be a
greatest hits INCLUDE that has the advanced stuff as well.

My 1 cent
Mark Johnson
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Subject: [U2] Re: PCL: command


 hello,

 how do you write multiple PCL command in one program,
 I have a program that I need to write a compress 8pt
 arial narrow and another font within the same letter.

 Right now I am using esc(s20H and the printout
 compress it but the height stayed so I have a visible
 space between lines.

 any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 thanks!






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Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-02-04 Thread MAJ Programming
Doesn't sound like a real useful reason for the rest of us.
Thanks
Mark Johnson
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  -Original Message-
  From: MAJ
   So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2?
   Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV 
   platforms and have my opinions on each.
 
 Because our VAR told use they wouldn't support their product on D3 any
 longer. grin
 
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RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-02-02 Thread Tony G
From: MAJ
 So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2?
 Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on 
 many MV platforms and have my opinions on each.

Might be best to just wait for George to put his notes together and post
for everyone later...
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Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-02-01 Thread George Land
I have had a number of responses directly as well as to the group, I'll be
putting together a document on it and will look at publishing it.  But if
anyone specifically wants a copy please let me know and I'll email it when I
have it.

george.land@ (remove) u2uk.com

George Land
APT Solutions Limited
IBM U2 UK Distributor
www.u2uk.com




On 01/02/2008 00:26, MAJ Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I too am interested in this comparison.
 
 The majority of my clients are D3 yet I have 1 or 2 UV and UD clients, hence
 the straddling.
 
 I know that U2 products have many more technical features but I would like
 to see where it gets admin heavy versus D3.
 
 Thanks
 Mark Johnson
 - Original Message -
 From: Janet Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:26 PM
 Subject: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
 
 
 Hello George,
 
 We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other
 available MultiValue databases for one of our customers.
 
 Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you.
 
 Thanks
 
 Janet Bond
 FusionWare Corporation
 IBM Premier Business Partner
 Microsoft Gold Partner
 www.fusionware.net
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2
 
 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for
 switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little
 old and hazy.  Has anyone any product or technical justifications for
 switching over that they would be willing to share?
 
 Thanks
 
 George Land
 APT Solutions Limited
 IBM U2 UK Distributor
 www.u2uk.com
 
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Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-02-01 Thread MAJ Programming
So what's the number one reason for switching from D3 to U2?

Not to create an onslaught of replies, but I've worked on many MV platforms
and have my opinions on each.

Thanks
Mark Johnson
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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2


 I have had a number of responses directly as well as to the group, I'll be
 putting together a document on it and will look at publishing it.  But if
 anyone specifically wants a copy please let me know and I'll email it when
I
 have it.

 george.land@ (remove) u2uk.com

 George Land
 APT Solutions Limited
 IBM U2 UK Distributor
 www.u2uk.com




 On 01/02/2008 00:26, MAJ Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I too am interested in this comparison.
 
  The majority of my clients are D3 yet I have 1 or 2 UV and UD clients,
hence
  the straddling.
 
  I know that U2 products have many more technical features but I would
like
  to see where it gets admin heavy versus D3.
 
  Thanks
  Mark Johnson
  - Original Message -
  From: Janet Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:26 PM
  Subject: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2
 
 
  Hello George,
 
  We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other
  available MultiValue databases for one of our customers.
 
  Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you.
 
  Thanks
 
  Janet Bond
  FusionWare Corporation
  IBM Premier Business Partner
  Microsoft Gold Partner
  www.fusionware.net
 
  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2
 
  I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case
for
  switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a
little
  old and hazy.  Has anyone any product or technical justifications for
  switching over that they would be willing to share?
 
  Thanks
 
  George Land
  APT Solutions Limited
  IBM U2 UK Distributor
  www.u2uk.com
 
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Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-01-31 Thread MAJ Programming
I too am interested in this comparison.

The majority of my clients are D3 yet I have 1 or 2 UV and UD clients, hence
the straddling.

I know that U2 products have many more technical features but I would like
to see where it gets admin heavy versus D3.

Thanks
Mark Johnson
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From: Janet Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:26 PM
Subject: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2


 Hello George,

 We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other
available MultiValue databases for one of our customers.

 Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you.

 Thanks

 Janet Bond
 FusionWare Corporation
 IBM Premier Business Partner
 Microsoft Gold Partner
 www.fusionware.net

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 5:30 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Switching from D3 to U2

 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for
 switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little
 old and hazy.  Has anyone any product or technical justifications for
 switching over that they would be willing to share?

 Thanks

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RE: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-01-31 Thread Janet Bond
Hello Mark,

Drop me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will provide you with this document.

I cannot publish this on the list without marketing approval, but, I can send 
it to you directly.

Thanks
Janet


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I too am interested in this comparison.

The majority of my clients are D3 yet I have 1 or 2 UV and UD clients, hence
the straddling.

I know that U2 products have many more technical features but I would like
to see where it gets admin heavy versus D3.

Thanks
Mark Johnson
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 Hello George,

 We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other
available MultiValue databases for one of our customers.

 Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you.

 Thanks

 Janet Bond
 FusionWare Corporation
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 Microsoft Gold Partner
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 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for
 switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little
 old and hazy.  Has anyone any product or technical justifications for
 switching over that they would be willing to share?

 Thanks

 George Land
 APT Solutions Limited
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Re: [U2] RE: Switching from D3 to U2

2008-01-30 Thread karlp
Could you put that document on the PickWiki? I think there are more that
would benefit from it's content, and being on the wiki, it could be
updated as time passes and the parameters change.

Thanks,

Karl

quote who=Janet Bond
 Hello George,

 We created a report comparing D3 and the U2 products along with other
 available MultiValue databases for one of our customers.

 Please email me directly and I can provide this content to you.

 Thanks

 Janet Bond
 FusionWare Corporation
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 Microsoft Gold Partner
 www.fusionware.net

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 I am in the process of putting together a document to support the case for
 switching an application from D3 to U2 but my knowledge of D3 is a little
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 switching over that they would be willing to share?

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RE: [U2] RE: testing [not secure] [off topic]

2007-12-24 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
Because it's Christmas I was thinking about posting a question about
determining the best size for swap on a Solaris 10/UV 10.2.2 box... But
instead:

http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-odd-santa-groped,0,2
086133.story

The lead:
Santa Claus says that a woman who sat on his lap was naughty, not nice.
A Santa at the Danbury Fair mall said the woman groped him. The
security officer at the mall said Santa Claus has been sexually
assaulted, police Detective Lt. Thomas Michael said of the weekend
complaint.

Sandrama Lamy, 33, of Danbury, was charged with sexual assault and
breach of peace. She was released on a promise to appear in court on
Jan. 3.


Mark Hennessey

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hohoho?

My son says that's the response Santa gave when he found 3 blondes under
the Christmas tree.

He's getting coal for Christmas this year.

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RE: [U2] RE: testing

2007-12-24 Thread Stevenson, Charles
 He's getting coal for Christmas this year.

Does he know what coal is?
I actually found some at a lumberyard several years ago  got a few
pieces for my kids' stockings.
A shiney black rock that burns?  No way.  This is so cool!
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RE: [U2] RE: testing

2007-12-24 Thread karlp
I agree. I'd like some more, please...

I think he knows what it is because of the annoying coal mine disaster
that could/should have been avoided here in Utah this past fall. That put
coal on the front burner once again.

Karl

quote who=Stevenson, Charles
 He's getting coal for Christmas this year.

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 I actually found some at a lumberyard several years ago  got a few
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Re: [U2] RE: testing

2007-12-24 Thread MAJ Programming
I get it, front burner. Ha, Ha, Ha.

Don't laugh. Some of my client's MV systems still run on coal. I'm working
on one right now.

Mark Johnson
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 I agree. I'd like some more, please...

 I think he knows what it is because of the annoying coal mine disaster
 that could/should have been avoided here in Utah this past fall. That put
 coal on the front burner once again.

 Karl

 quote who=Stevenson, Charles
  He's getting coal for Christmas this year.
 
  Does he know what coal is?
  I actually found some at a lumberyard several years ago  got a few
  pieces for my kids' stockings.
  A shiney black rock that burns?  No way.  This is so cool!
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RE: [U2] RE: testing

2007-12-24 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Coal?!!!?

Why that's modern.  My client Mv is running on a squirrel cage with 9
gerbils!

Coincidentally their names are Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid,
Donner, Blitzen, and Rudolph!

Merry Christmas Everyone!

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I get it, front burner. Ha, Ha, Ha.

Don't laugh. Some of my client's MV systems still run on coal. I'm working
on one right now.

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RE: [U2] RE: Universe Replication [ad]

2007-12-11 Thread Ross Ferris
[ad]

Interesting. We have been toying with the idea of migrating our
Visage.DRS product across to UV from D3, but have been unsure of the
demand level, especially as IBM have a product (then again, so to RD,
but possibly with similar limitations?).

DRS gracefully recovers from network interruptions, and you can also
suspend updates on mirrored systems, allowing clean backups to be
produced. We can also produce a clean replicated system from a dirty
backup (ie: backup produced while system is active), support replication
to multiple replication servers (subscribers), and keep logs in 4
places to ensure a high level of redundancy.

That said, we would have the same limitation on type 1/19 files on *NIX
platforms, though I can see a fairly straight forward solution on
windows that would work with updates from anywhere.

More details here if you are interested, even if only the approach we
have used http://www.stamina.com.au/Visage/visageDRS.htm

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage  Better by Design!

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Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2007 4:20 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] RE: Universe Replication

The problem I ran into with replication (UV on Linux), is that if the
subscriber system was off-line or the subscriber process not running,
writes
on the publisher would cause the writing application to hang and
eventually
error. Since our goal was to the use subscriber system for reporting as
well
as testing, this caused a problem whenever the back-up system need to
be
rebooted or taken off-line.  We concluded that we needed something more
asynchronous that would allow buffered updates to the back-up system.

Other problems, such  as managing many published files spread over many
accounts, and the fact that type 1/19 files are not replicated, caused
us to
abandon replication. However, it is likely that IBM has continued to
improve
replication and my problems may not have been typical. But I am curious
if a
work-around to allow buffering of updates to the subscriber system was
ever
developed, because for us that was a stopper.

/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006

On Dec 10, 2007 4:06 AM, Barry Rogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robin,

   We attempted (operative word) to embrace Replication for a solution
 to our needs. We are a little different, in that we are running Unix.
We
 have a D/R system off site and the primary/production box here. Our
 intentions were similar, to establish a scenario where our second
system
 would not only be our D/R, but allow us to offload many of our
 reportings from the production system. Data Replication was touted as
 the solution. A solution that would update our D/R system real time
from
 our production system.
   If you would like to discuss in further detail, off line, U2's Data
 Replication solution (in the real world), I would be more that happy
to
 spend some time.


 Barry  Rogen
 PNY Technologies, Inc.
 Senior  Programmer/Analyst
 (973)  515 - 9700  ext 5327
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -
 Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win
 glorious triumphs even though checkered by
 failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who
 neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live
 in the gray twilight that knows neither victory
 nor defeat.t. roosevelt
 


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeRoy
Dreyfuss
 Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 6:35 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] RE: Universe Replication

 Hello Robin,

 10.2.x is still pretty new, even though it has been out a whole year
 now. With most busy organizations, uptake on a new release can be
pretty
 slow, so I doubt many folks have it going in a production
environment.

 When I worked for the U2 group, I did quite a bit of testing with
 replication. It is ideal for what you propose to use it for. In 10.2,
 the services changed to improve overall replication performance and
 recoverability after a network outage.

 If you've never set it up before, there are some things to consider
 first. For example, how reliable are the file pointers? Can everyone
of
 the file pointers be opened? Are they referencing files that live in
 other file systems and not where the account itself exists?
Replication
 expects that the files not be UV/NET files and will skip them when
you
 start looking for files within accounts to publish.

 Like transaction logging, replication ships with TCL verbs to greatly
 speed up the selection, publish, and subscribe process when there are
 many files per account to be replicated. They are documented in the
UV
 10.2 documentation set. I made improvements to two of those
programs--
 just ping me off-line if you'd like the updated programs.

 I

RE: [U2] RE: Universe Replication

2007-12-11 Thread Jerry Banker
Is there a replication system that does replicate all file types? Seems
to me that not replicating all file types would be a major problem,
seeing as many people use type 1/19 files for a variety of reasons.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

snip
 That said, we would have the same limitation on type 1/19 files on
*NIX
 platforms, though I can see a fairly straight forward solution on
 windows that would work with updates from anywhere.
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RE: [U2] RE: Universe Replication

2007-12-10 Thread Barry Rogen
Robin,

   We attempted (operative word) to embrace Replication for a solution
to our needs. We are a little different, in that we are running Unix. We
have a D/R system off site and the primary/production box here. Our
intentions were similar, to establish a scenario where our second system
would not only be our D/R, but allow us to offload many of our
reportings from the production system. Data Replication was touted as
the solution. A solution that would update our D/R system real time from
our production system.
   If you would like to discuss in further detail, off line, U2's Data
Replication solution (in the real world), I would be more that happy to
spend some time.


Barry  Rogen
PNY Technologies, Inc.
Senior  Programmer/Analyst
(973)  515 - 9700  ext 5327
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win 
glorious triumphs even though checkered by
failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who
neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live
in the gray twilight that knows neither victory
nor defeat.t. roosevelt



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeRoy Dreyfuss
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 6:35 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] RE: Universe Replication

Hello Robin,

10.2.x is still pretty new, even though it has been out a whole year
now. With most busy organizations, uptake on a new release can be pretty
slow, so I doubt many folks have it going in a production environment.

When I worked for the U2 group, I did quite a bit of testing with
replication. It is ideal for what you propose to use it for. In 10.2,
the services changed to improve overall replication performance and
recoverability after a network outage.

If you've never set it up before, there are some things to consider
first. For example, how reliable are the file pointers? Can everyone of
the file pointers be opened? Are they referencing files that live in
other file systems and not where the account itself exists? Replication
expects that the files not be UV/NET files and will skip them when you
start looking for files within accounts to publish.

Like transaction logging, replication ships with TCL verbs to greatly
speed up the selection, publish, and subscribe process when there are
many files per account to be replicated. They are documented in the UV
10.2 documentation set. I made improvements to two of those programs--
just ping me off-line if you'd like the updated programs.

I intend to deploy replication across my Linux servers, with transaction
logging running on each server as well. I am confident with 10.2's
ability to handle them both quite well in the scenario I chose to deploy
them.

I believe I can tell you quite a bit more about the process if you want
to write me off-line.

Regards,

LeRoy

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Smith
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 10:59 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Universe Replication

We are about to install Universe File Replication on a Windows 2003
server, using Universe 10.2.3 with replication to a similarly specified
Subscriber Server.  The subscriber will be used for reporting purposes
to reduce the load on the publishing server.  Most of the reporting is
done via UVODBC.

Has anyone had experience of installing Universe Replication in a
Windows 2003 server environment?  How stable is it?  What problems have
you encountered along the way?  Any  help/tips/advice would be much
appreciated.

Robin Smith
Reflex Data Systems Ltd
Tel: 01482 881152
Fax:01482 881195
Registered Office: Reflex House, Tokenspire Business Park, Beverley,
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Re: [U2] RE: Universe Replication

2007-12-10 Thread Scott Ballinger
The problem I ran into with replication (UV on Linux), is that if the
subscriber system was off-line or the subscriber process not running, writes
on the publisher would cause the writing application to hang and eventually
error. Since our goal was to the use subscriber system for reporting as well
as testing, this caused a problem whenever the back-up system need to be
rebooted or taken off-line.  We concluded that we needed something more
asynchronous that would allow buffered updates to the back-up system.

Other problems, such  as managing many published files spread over many
accounts, and the fact that type 1/19 files are not replicated, caused us to
abandon replication. However, it is likely that IBM has continued to improve
replication and my problems may not have been typical. But I am curious if a
work-around to allow buffering of updates to the subscriber system was ever
developed, because for us that was a stopper.

/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006

On Dec 10, 2007 4:06 AM, Barry Rogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robin,

   We attempted (operative word) to embrace Replication for a solution
 to our needs. We are a little different, in that we are running Unix. We
 have a D/R system off site and the primary/production box here. Our
 intentions were similar, to establish a scenario where our second system
 would not only be our D/R, but allow us to offload many of our
 reportings from the production system. Data Replication was touted as
 the solution. A solution that would update our D/R system real time from
 our production system.
   If you would like to discuss in further detail, off line, U2's Data
 Replication solution (in the real world), I would be more that happy to
 spend some time.


 Barry  Rogen
 PNY Technologies, Inc.
 Senior  Programmer/Analyst
 (973)  515 - 9700  ext 5327
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -
 Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win
 glorious triumphs even though checkered by
 failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who
 neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live
 in the gray twilight that knows neither victory
 nor defeat.t. roosevelt
 


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LeRoy Dreyfuss
 Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 6:35 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] RE: Universe Replication

 Hello Robin,

 10.2.x is still pretty new, even though it has been out a whole year
 now. With most busy organizations, uptake on a new release can be pretty
 slow, so I doubt many folks have it going in a production environment.

 When I worked for the U2 group, I did quite a bit of testing with
 replication. It is ideal for what you propose to use it for. In 10.2,
 the services changed to improve overall replication performance and
 recoverability after a network outage.

 If you've never set it up before, there are some things to consider
 first. For example, how reliable are the file pointers? Can everyone of
 the file pointers be opened? Are they referencing files that live in
 other file systems and not where the account itself exists? Replication
 expects that the files not be UV/NET files and will skip them when you
 start looking for files within accounts to publish.

 Like transaction logging, replication ships with TCL verbs to greatly
 speed up the selection, publish, and subscribe process when there are
 many files per account to be replicated. They are documented in the UV
 10.2 documentation set. I made improvements to two of those programs--
 just ping me off-line if you'd like the updated programs.

 I intend to deploy replication across my Linux servers, with transaction
 logging running on each server as well. I am confident with 10.2's
 ability to handle them both quite well in the scenario I chose to deploy
 them.

 I believe I can tell you quite a bit more about the process if you want
 to write me off-line.

 Regards,

 LeRoy

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Smith
 Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 10:59 PM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] Universe Replication

 We are about to install Universe File Replication on a Windows 2003
 server, using Universe 10.2.3 with replication to a similarly specified
 Subscriber Server.  The subscriber will be used for reporting purposes
 to reduce the load on the publishing server.  Most of the reporting is
 done via UVODBC.

 Has anyone had experience of installing Universe Replication in a
 Windows 2003 server environment?  How stable is it?  What problems have
 you encountered along the way?  Any  help/tips/advice would be much
 appreciated.

 Robin Smith
 Reflex Data Systems Ltd
 Tel: 01482 881152
 Fax:01482 881195
 Registered Office: Reflex House, Tokenspire Business Park, Beverley,
 East Yorkshire, HU17 

RE: [U2] RE: U2 SOAP Server

2007-12-04 Thread Sara Burns
You get such great information on this list.

Based on the comments since I posted last Friday we have been doing some
experiments.  I believe it would be best for us to develop Web Services
in a Windows environment then deploy to a Linux SOAP Server.  We have
managed to transfer the files for a Web Service (test.xml and test.wsdl)
from one Windows PC running the Development tools to a second Windows PC
also running the Development tools.  Each had a SOAP Server pointing to
the same Linux based Universe 10.2 database.  This was successful.

Next we tried to incorporate this into a Service on an Oracle Enterprise
Service Bus (ESB) on my PC.  This almost worked but not quite.
Unfortunately I appear to have broken the ESB rather badly so progress
has stopped until I can work out how to fix it.  Lots of nasty java
error messages.

Our aim is to have our 4 environments - Development, Test, Pre-Prod and
Production each able to have a version of the Oracle ESB running with
the appropriate U2 SOAP Server connecting to the applicable UV account.
Ideally we would not want to have to change the internals of the WSDL or
other code.  Server names and ports are listed multiple times within the
XML code.  Our thought was to place the ESB and the U2 SOAP Server on
the same hardware and use localhost and the same port.  We hoped that
config files would enable this.  We still have more experimentation to
do in this area.

Moving to this industry standards methodology is a very steep learning
curve.  The creation of the U2 WSDL from an existing subroutine was a
breeze.  I wish the rest was as simple.  Back to the manuals.

Sara Burns


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RE: [U2] RE: U2 SOAP Server

2007-12-04 Thread Symeon Breen
In my experience that is the wonderful world of Java

By contrast you can write your own web service in asp.net, using uniobjects.net 
and connection pooling (or not if you donbt want it) in about 30 minutes end 
to end and 30 lines of vb.net or c# or j# etc code 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sara Burns
Sent: 04 December 2007 08:17
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] RE: U2 SOAP Server

You get such great information on this list.

Based on the comments since I posted last Friday we have been doing some
experiments.  I believe it would be best for us to develop Web Services
in a Windows environment then deploy to a Linux SOAP Server.  We have
managed to transfer the files for a Web Service (test.xml and test.wsdl)
from one Windows PC running the Development tools to a second Windows PC
also running the Development tools.  Each had a SOAP Server pointing to
the same Linux based Universe 10.2 database.  This was successful.

Next we tried to incorporate this into a Service on an Oracle Enterprise
Service Bus (ESB) on my PC.  This almost worked but not quite.
Unfortunately I appear to have broken the ESB rather badly so progress
has stopped until I can work out how to fix it.  Lots of nasty java
error messages.

Our aim is to have our 4 environments - Development, Test, Pre-Prod and
Production each able to have a version of the Oracle ESB running with
the appropriate U2 SOAP Server connecting to the applicable UV account.
Ideally we would not want to have to change the internals of the WSDL or
other code.  Server names and ports are listed multiple times within the
XML code.  Our thought was to place the ESB and the U2 SOAP Server on
the same hardware and use localhost and the same port.  We hoped that
config files would enable this.  We still have more experimentation to
do in this area.

Moving to this industry standards methodology is a very steep learning
curve.  The creation of the U2 WSDL from an existing subroutine was a
breeze.  I wish the rest was as simple.  Back to the manuals.

Sara Burns


Sara Burns (SEB)


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Public Trust
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RE: [U2] RE: U2 SOAP Server

2007-12-03 Thread Dave Walker
Thanks! Now I can at least start exploring. I've been making fair progress
getting a small ruby script to talk to it, with an eye towards eventually
hooking it up with some rails work a fellow programmer has been working on.

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Dave Walker

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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: U2 SOAP Server


Here's what I've managed to work out so far (it would be nice of IBM U2
Support) could confirm/deny...
 
A) To invoke the SOAPServer without starting up U2WSD (on Wintel):
X:\ibm\tools\RunSOAPServer.bat SOAPServerName

(See the -classpath for the plugs-in that are required to run the U2
UniSOAP server)


B) If you wish to migrate to another server or environment, update the
SOAPServerName details in: (mostly self-explanatory): 
X:\ibm\tools\U2SOAP.config


C) Log files created (if debug mode is on):
SOAP server optional debug file:
X:\ibm\u2soap\SOAPServerName\SOAPServerName.log
UniObject sessions trace log file:
X:\ibm\tools\uoj_trace.log


D) Key directories with JAR files required:
X:\ibm\tools\plugins\com.ibm.u2.unisoap_1.0.0\
X:\IBM\Tools\plugins\com.ibm.u2.uoj_1.0.0\


Regards,
David

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Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 11:33 PM
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Subject: RE: [U2] RE: U2 SOAP Server

Hey folks,

Just thought I'd take a second to reply back to the recent posts...

The SOAP Server included with U2WSD gets installed when you install the
tool. There isn't an option (during install) to install the SOAP Server
by itself or elsewhere. That doesn't mean you can't relocate the SOAP
Server somewhere else when you are ready to deploy. If you have no GUI
desktop (Gnome/KDE/etc.) on your Linux server, then it will be hard to
install U2WSD on that platform (and as such, gain access to the SOAP
Server). That wouldn't be an issue for Windows server users since
Windows has a GUI desktop.

At the end of the day, the SOAP Server is just a simple Jetty server
enhanced to communicated only with U2 servers enabled for it. It is
really light-weight. You don't have to fire up U2WSD to start/stop it,
but I don't believe IBM includes that tidbit of info in there
documentation.

Regards,

LeRoy
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