RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
We're pickies, we don't need to understand XML, or whatever, so long as we can do what's required of us. Yeah, we could learn XML, if required. Joe suggests we can't learn XML, lets see fellow pickies, XML is hierarchical what do we know that could possibly help us understand that :). George Smith -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Question for Donald Kibbey
Don, Picked this up on your reply to the guy who thinks strong typing is a virtue. So, what's your point? Use C# against the UV database if that's what you want to do (I and others have been doing this for a couple of years now). I would like to use C# against unidata what do I need to do this. I come from a mvBase background and am a little lost in the U2 market. Thanks much There are only 10 people in the world who understand binary and I am not one of them. George Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, what's your point? Use C# against the UV database if that's what you want to do (I and others have been doing this for a couple of years now). -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Question for Donald Kibbey
Tony, Get the Pick Data Provider .NET from Raining Data and get the same support as Clink for mvBase - no thanks. There are only 10 people in the world who understand binary and I am not one of them. George Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:29 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: Question for Donald Kibbey George, the best commercial integration option available for MV right now is the Pick Data Provider .NET from Raining Data. When IBM has UO.NET, that situation may change, but developers must research and understand the capabilities of both products before making assumptions and decisions - it would be very wrong to assume that all .NET connectivity products are alike. Honestly you don't need any data provider for .NET integration with MV, you can roll your own connectivity, but there is value in having someone else develop, maintain, and enhance these tools for you. The same holds true for any GUI RAD IDE or Web building product in our market. See my article in the March/April edition of Spectrum Magazine about other .NET connectivity methods for U2. HTH, Tony Technical Editor, C#Builder Kick Start, SAMS Publishing Author, Web Services and .NET articles, Spectrum Magazine Nebula RD now offers C# training with a C# MVP, MCSD trainer. george r smith wrote I would like to use C# against unidata what do I need to do this. I come from a mvBase background and am a little lost in the U2 market. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Middle level ability Administrator
Jim, The bookstore point of sale is also runnning on pick (mvBase):) There are only 10 people in the world who understand binary. George Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yeatrakas,James Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Middle level ability Administrator I have noted with interest the high level of conversations that occur here and appreciate the depth of knowledge contributed by those of you who are consultants, Guru's and Lovers of MV. I commend you all and thank you as well. Just want to share some experiences with you all. You may appreciate it. I have been associated with MV since the late 80's though not nearly at your levels. Advanced Revelation was the most recent version I was associated with. Though it did not always perform well due to quirks in Novel, Btrieve, Indexing, file structure, but to me it was the best thing going at the time. The application running on AREV I was associated with was called MAPCON and it supported the United States Antarctic Program which I was involved with for almost 4 years. (got to the South Pole twice). I was comfortable working with it and solved some pretty nasty problems in the program using it. (once I got them following the business rules built into the app) It appeared to me in the early nineties that MV database engines were not appreciated in general and that my future was limited. The word was relational databases were surpassing MV Db's in the industry. You all obviously had the talent and sustainability to survive in the MV world, but I chose to jump over to the dark side. I wound up consulting in the Nuclear Power industry, Telecommunications and even at HR Block doing a little data mining against data warehouses. Consulting projects evaporated for me and I tried something quite different for a while. I drove an 18 wheeler for 6 months, Long Haul. Now there's a job. Guys, moving 80,000 lbs down the road provides a totally different kind of stress and a keen appreciation for the people that drive the big rigs. It didn't take long to bankrupt me, though, but the life experience was worth while. At any rate, wonder of wonders, a little while after returning to Charleston SC, a position opened up at the local community college for which I interviewed. During the interview, they asked me if I had ever heard of VOC or Data Dictionaries. My jaw just about dropped. I chuckled and began talking about AREV. Well, you know how rare it is to find anyone that knows anything about MV, and even rarer still to find anyone actually USING a MV db. But, Datatel is high on it, and they have quite a client base. Yes, I got the job and am the Benefactor administrator here. They also have the Oracle version which rides below Unidata, with some wild conversion algorithms to make it happen. So what's the point of all this. I guess to share with others who will know and understand a bit of what one persons association with a particular db has meant to them during their life and to thank you for sharing your life experiences occasionally in this list. James (Jim) Yeatrakas Application Analyst Trident Technical College, Charleston, SC (843) 574-6634, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: u2 maintenance agreements
I wish IBM would hurry up and get their C# .Net provider so we could leave Raining S... behind. There are only 10 people in the world who understand binary. George Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:32 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: u2 maintenance agreements Doesn't Raining Data have a Pick Product that supports .NET? :-) SNIP Isn't there a separate list server for whining? :-) SNIP -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
