RE: Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris

2004-04-05 Thread George Gallen
This might be a bit more than you want, but in the long
run, may solve your needs better.

What if you imbed you own psudocode, tag like into the
text you want printed. (ie. x=###,y=###,size=###,font=xxx)
then write a subroutine (once), that will convert your
psudeocode to the specific printer's code. This way if
later, you change printers to a different language, all
you will need to do is update the conversion subroutine, all
the psudocode can remain the same.

Again, initially, a LOT more work.

George

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From: Karjala Koponen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello,

I'm running UniData 5.2.15 on AIX 4.3.2 but will be going to 
UniData 6.0.9 on Solaris 2.8.  We have two stand alone Epson 
LX300+ 9 pin dot matrix printers we use to print labels.  They 
are defined as generic (ASCII) devices.  The printers are old 
and the output is acceptable, at best.

I'd like to replace the printers with label printers that will 
print on peel off labels of roll stock.  These printers 
generally come with Windows drivers but Unix drivers seem to 
be lacking.  Some of the higher end printers come with a 
programming manual that would allow me to write code to send 
control sequences to the printer and control everything.  I've 
done that before but I'd rather not take the time to do that 
if I can simply attach a printer, either to the network or a 
serial connection, load a driver and create a queue, and then 
simply send my few lines of text to the print queue and get a 
label.  Bar code would be nice but is not mandatory.

I'm sure that we are just not looking in the right place or 
closely enough.  We are not printing high volumes of labels so 
less expensive is better.  Any suggestions?

Thanks, Karjala
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RE: Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris

2004-04-05 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz
We use Zebra printers.  However, the output needs to be in ZPL language.  Im
not sure that you will escape the 'control' characters altogether.  You will
at minimum need to put characters around the barcode themselves if the need
arises.  I've never tried sending plain ascii text to them, so Im not sure
if they work that way.  The programming language is not bad at all - very
easily done really (2 hours of messing around and you will probably have it
down).  If you want to be able to print various fonts and sizes, I don't
know how you will escape the 'codes'.  Even it you find one that understands
postscript, you still have to convert text to postscript.

Anthony Dzikiewicz

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Subject:Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris

Hello,

I'm running UniData 5.2.15 on AIX 4.3.2 but will be going to UniData 6.0.9
on Solaris 2.8.  We have two stand alone Epson LX300+ 9 pin dot matrix
printers we use to print labels.  They are defined as generic (ASCII)
devices.  The printers are old and the output is acceptable, at best.

I'd like to replace the printers with label printers that will print on peel
off labels of roll stock.  These printers generally come with Windows
drivers but Unix drivers seem to be lacking.  Some of the higher end
printers come with a programming manual that would allow me to write code to
send control sequences to the printer and control everything.  I've done
that before but I'd rather not take the time to do that if I can simply
attach a printer, either to the network or a serial connection, load a
driver and create a queue, and then simply send my few lines of text to the
print queue and get a label.  Bar code would be nice but is not mandatory.

I'm sure that we are just not looking in the right place or closely enough.
We are not printing high volumes of labels so less expensive is better.  Any
suggestions?

Thanks, Karjala
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RE: Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris

2004-04-05 Thread Nick . X . Cipollina

We're using Zebra printers also, and you cannot send plain ASCII text to them.
We've recently purchases some IBM A-3300 printers, they may take plain ascii
text.  I'm not sure though.

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We use Zebra printers.  However, the output needs to be in ZPL language.  Im
not sure that you will escape the 'control' characters altogether.  You will
at minimum need to put characters around the barcode themselves if the need
arises.  I've never tried sending plain ascii text to them, so Im not sure
if they work that way.  The programming language is not bad at all - very
easily done really (2 hours of messing around and you will probably have it
down).  If you want to be able to print various fonts and sizes, I don't
know how you will escape the 'codes'.  Even it you find one that understands
postscript, you still have to convert text to postscript.

Anthony Dzikiewicz

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Sent:Monday, April 05, 2004 1:05 PM
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Subject:   Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris

Hello,

I'm running UniData 5.2.15 on AIX 4.3.2 but will be going to UniData 6.0.9
on Solaris 2.8.  We have two stand alone Epson LX300+ 9 pin dot matrix
printers we use to print labels.  They are defined as generic (ASCII)
devices.  The printers are old and the output is acceptable, at best.

I'd like to replace the printers with label printers that will print on peel
off labels of roll stock.  These printers generally come with Windows
drivers but Unix drivers seem to be lacking.  Some of the higher end
printers come with a programming manual that would allow me to write code to
send control sequences to the printer and control everything.  I've done
that before but I'd rather not take the time to do that if I can simply
attach a printer, either to the network or a serial connection, load a
driver and create a queue, and then simply send my few lines of text to the
print queue and get a label.  Bar code would be nice but is not mandatory.

I'm sure that we are just not looking in the right place or closely enough.
We are not printing high volumes of labels so less expensive is better.  Any
suggestions?

Thanks, Karjala
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Re: Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris

2004-04-05 Thread Karjala Koponen
Friends,

I really have no time for any development, however small, on this.  Too many other 
higher priority projects on my list.  These printers are used by many people, however 
infrequently, so having the printer attached and driven from a single workstation is 
not attractive, though I might be able to get somebody else to do that setup work.  I 
don't know how people would like using central workstations for generating labels.  I 
suppose I could have an old PC logged into our UniData application and somehow drive 
the printer from the server, but I don't know how to do that, though there was a 
recent thread that might be relevant.  Yes, I could write an application that would 
send the correct control sequences and I don't think it would take much time (only 
because I've done a very similar task at another company), but that's not a zero time 
project, either.

Guess I'll have to recommend that we just upgrade to a better text printer for now.

Thanks for your ideas, Karjala


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/2004 3:14:57 PM 
Hey Karjala,

Why not just purchase something like a Dymo SE300 label printer and put it
on a Windows workstation, connected to the network running the U2
application? ...

Regards,
Scott
- Original Message - 
From: Karjala Koponen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
Hello,

I'm running UniData 5.2.15 on AIX 4.3.2 but will be going to UniData 6.0.9
on Solaris 2.8.  We have two stand alone Epson LX300+ 9 pin dot matrix
printers we use to print labels.  They are defined as generic (ASCII)
devices.  The printers are old and the output is acceptable, at best.

I'd like to replace the printers with label printers that will print on peel
off labels of roll stock.  ...

Thanks, Karjala
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RE: Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris

2004-04-05 Thread George Gallen
We use Datamax labels printers. While I don't send straight
ASCII to it, I don't know if it won't accept it.

You could try calling their tech support 407-523-5540 and
ask them, they have always been very helpful and know their
products very well.

Can't speak for Zebra, havn't had to use one.

George

If you just need to send a few characters to allow it to
accept text, you could modify your printcap from unix
to prepend the characters and add some trailing data to
all print jobs that go through it, Shouldn't take too much
time (maybe 15 mins) to modify it.

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From: Karjala Koponen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 4:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris


Friends,

I really have no time for any development, however small, on 
this.  Too many other higher priority projects on my list.  
These printers are used by many people, however infrequently, 
so having the printer attached and driven from a single 
workstation is not attractive, though I might be able to get 
somebody else to do that setup work.  I don't know how people 
would like using central workstations for generating labels.  
I suppose I could have an old PC logged into our UniData 
application and somehow drive the printer from the server, but 
I don't know how to do that, though there was a recent thread 
that might be relevant.  Yes, I could write an application 
that would send the correct control sequences and I don't 
think it would take much time (only because I've done a very 
similar task at another company), but that's not a zero time 
project, either.

Guess I'll have to recommend that we just upgrade to a better 
text printer for now.

Thanks for your ideas, Karjala


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/2004 3:14:57 PM 
Hey Karjala,

Why not just purchase something like a Dymo SE300 label 
printer and put it
on a Windows workstation, connected to the network running the U2
application? ...

Regards,
Scott
- Original Message - 
From: Karjala Koponen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
Hello,

I'm running UniData 5.2.15 on AIX 4.3.2 but will be going to 
UniData 6.0.9
on Solaris 2.8.  We have two stand alone Epson LX300+ 9 pin dot matrix
printers we use to print labels.  They are defined as generic (ASCII)
devices.  The printers are old and the output is acceptable, at best.

I'd like to replace the printers with label printers that will 
print on peel
off labels of roll stock.  ...

Thanks, Karjala
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RE: Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris

2004-04-05 Thread Karjala Koponen
George,

And maybe I can get the fellow what wants to get the new printers to do the work!  
He's our Solaris guy, but I don't think his strength is in printers.

I suspect, though, that we'd take more than 15 minutes to figure out what command 
sequences to send. :)
Also, Solaris uses System V printing with printer interface programs that use some 
other scripting language that, again, I don't know (but maybe ...).  A quick look 
tells me that what you suggest could be done, with another learning curve ...  No man 
pages on our AIX or Solaris systems for printcap.

I did call the Datamax tech support, who referred me to Integrated Software Design and 
Unibar.  The Unibar product looks nice but costs $3000 plus.

Thanks again, Karjala


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/2004 4:07:26 PM 
We use Datamax labels printers. While I don't send straight
ASCII to it, I don't know if it won't accept it.

You could try calling their tech support 407-523-5540 and
ask them, they have always been very helpful and know their
products very well.

Can't speak for Zebra, havn't had to use one.

George

If you just need to send a few characters to allow it to
accept text, you could modify your printcap from unix
to prepend the characters and add some trailing data to
all print jobs that go through it, Shouldn't take too much
time (maybe 15 mins) to modify it.
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Re: Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris

2004-04-05 Thread Mark Johnson
I've purchased many Prodigy DataMax label printers (4x6 UPS or smaller) from
Ebay for around $80-$150 each over the last few years. The replacement heads
alone are $280 new.

The PCL (sic) is pretty straightforward. It isn't WYSIWYG but debugable.
These printers have all the bar code fonts contained. They all have many
helvetica-style fonts and sizes. Complete orientation, sizing etc. They are
usually serial.

There are thermal and ink-based labels. If it's temperature sensitive
(either hot or cold) don't use thermal as they fade in time. If they're
shipping, thermal is fine.

my 1 cent.


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From: Karjala Koponen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 1:05 PM
Subject: Label printers on AIX and/or Solaris


Hello,

I'm running UniData 5.2.15 on AIX 4.3.2 but will be going to UniData 6.0.9
on Solaris 2.8.  We have two stand alone Epson LX300+ 9 pin dot matrix
printers we use to print labels.  They are defined as generic (ASCII)
devices.  The printers are old and the output is acceptable, at best.

I'd like to replace the printers with label printers that will print on peel
off labels of roll stock.  These printers generally come with Windows
drivers but Unix drivers seem to be lacking.  Some of the higher end
printers come with a programming manual that would allow me to write code to
send control sequences to the printer and control everything.  I've done
that before but I'd rather not take the time to do that if I can simply
attach a printer, either to the network or a serial connection, load a
driver and create a queue, and then simply send my few lines of text to the
print queue and get a label.  Bar code would be nice but is not mandatory.

I'm sure that we are just not looking in the right place or closely enough.
We are not printing high volumes of labels so less expensive is better.  Any
suggestions?

Thanks, Karjala
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