Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[Jan Van Kort]

yes, this sentence from David!  Paid an attorney to create our agreement 
contract and he missed this!



On 2017-06-06 12:08 PM, David Hulsebus wrote:


All our contracts have a clause that the tower survives change of 
ownership and are filed at the county court house.  I feel your pain, 
we have something similar going on. Foreclosure and sheriff sale a 
couple weeks ago. New owner is flipping the house - so we will see as 
he tries to sell it, hoping for the best. We can leave the tower for 
now, but no power. I shuttled batteries every week for a month and 
decided to put a solar system in. About 1amp draw = $1,500.00 plus 
$200 for 200 ah of batteries. Power company wanted 2K to install power 
and then the minimum bill of $35 per month.


Here's to hoping we don't spend 25K erecting a tower on the adjacent 
property.


This tower has the below clause. My attorney said it would not survive 
in court because of the sheriff sale and bankruptcy.


1.

The terms and conditions of this Agreement shall run with Owner’s
Property and shall extend to and bind the heirs, personal
representatives, successors and assigns of Owner and Lessee.

Good luck, Dave



On 6/6/2017 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:

Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)



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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[Matt Hoppes]

What does American Tower or Crown use in their tower land leases?

> On Jun 6, 2017, at 3:08 PM, David Hulsebus  wrote:
> 
> All our contracts have a clause that the tower survives change of ownership 
> and are filed at the county court house.  I feel your pain, we have something 
> similar going on. Foreclosure and sheriff sale a couple weeks ago. New owner 
> is flipping the house - so we will see as he tries to sell it, hoping for the 
> best. We can leave the tower for now, but no power. I shuttled batteries 
> every week for a month and decided to put a solar system in. About 1amp draw 
> = $1,500.00 plus $200 for 200 ah of batteries.  Power company wanted 2K to 
> install power and then the minimum bill of $35 per month. 
> Here's to hoping we don't spend 25K erecting a tower on the adjacent property.
> 
> This tower has the below clause. My attorney said it would not survive in 
> court because of the sheriff sale and bankruptcy.  
> The terms and conditions of this Agreement shall run with Owner’s Property 
> and shall extend to and bind the heirs, personal representatives, successors 
> and assigns of Owner and Lessee.
> Good luck, Dave
> 
> 
>> On 6/6/2017 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
>> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent 
>> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that 
>> went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area 
>> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
>> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[David Hulsebus]

All our contracts have a clause that the tower survives change of 
ownership and are filed at the county court house.  I feel your pain, we 
have something similar going on. Foreclosure and sheriff sale a couple 
weeks ago. New owner is flipping the house - so we will see as he tries 
to sell it, hoping for the best. We can leave the tower for now, but no 
power. I shuttled batteries every week for a month and decided to put a 
solar system in. About 1amp draw = $1,500.00 plus $200 for 200 ah of 
batteries.  Power company wanted 2K to install power and then the 
minimum bill of $35 per month.


Here's to hoping we don't spend 25K erecting a tower on the adjacent 
property.


This tower has the below clause. My attorney said it would not survive 
in court because of the sheriff sale and bankruptcy.


1.

   The terms and conditions of this Agreement shall run with Owner’s
   Property and shall extend to and bind the heirs, personal
   representatives, successors and assigns of Owner and Lessee.

Good luck, Dave



On 6/6/2017 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:

Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)



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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[Matt Hoppes]

What sentence?  I clearly missed an email. 

> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Jan Van Kort  wrote:
> 
> Great ideas, thanks.  Added that sentence to the site service lease contract 
> about binding to next property owner.  Got ahold of the attorney person, they 
> going to keep the power on for me.  This is what happens when you call 
> yourself a sovereign nation and the IRS comes and taketh away!
> 
>> On 2017-06-06 11:08 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> All of our accounts are DP&L (Dayton Power & Light).  They are business 
>> accounts, NOT commercial accounts.  Commercial you are charged based on peak 
>> usage.
>> 
>> Looking at a bill it was $13.05 for 41 kwhr on single phase.  This is 6 Ubnt 
>> AP, 1 Ubnt camera, 1 Epmp AP, rb2011, 1 af5x
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 2:01 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Almost all of our meters are $22 a month
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: G. Nicholas
>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power
>>> 
>>> Josh,
>>> 
>>> I wish I had your utility company, who is your provider?  In IL Ameren 
>>> considers 
>>> tower sites to be business rate not residential, so the basic account 
>>> charge and 
>>> meter charge is $45 even if I use 0 kwh.  So an ave tower site with 
>>> separately 
>>> metered service runs us around $75/m.
>>> 
>>> Garth
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: can...@believewireless.net
>>> Sent: 6/6/2017 10:32:17 AM
>>> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power
>>> 
>>> > Solar an option?
>>> > 
>>> > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>> > 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > > Can you just get your own meter installed?  Power should be like $10-20 
>>> > > a
>>> > > month for a handful of devices.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Josh Luthman
>>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> > > 1100 Wayne St
>>> > > Suite 1337
>>> > > Troy, OH 45373
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC 
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
>>> > >> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
>>> > >> went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the 
>>> > >> area
>>> > >> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Jan V
>>> > >>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[Jan Van Kort]

Great ideas, thanks.  Added that sentence to the site service lease 
contract about binding to next property owner.  Got ahold of the 
attorney person, they going to keep the power on for me.  This is what 
happens when you call yourself a sovereign nation and the IRS comes and 
taketh away!



On 2017-06-06 11:08 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
All of our accounts are DP&L (Dayton Power & Light).  They are 
business accounts, NOT commercial accounts.  Commercial you are 
charged based on peak usage.


Looking at a bill it was $13.05 for 41 kwhr on single phase.  This is 
6 Ubnt AP, 1 Ubnt camera, 1 Epmp AP, rb2011, 1 af5x



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 2:01 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:


Almost all of our meters are $22 a month

- Original Message -
*From:* G. Nicholas 
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:38 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

Josh,

I wish I had your utility company, who is your provider?  In
IL Ameren considers
tower sites to be business rate not residential, so the basic
account charge and
meter charge is $45 even if I use 0 kwh.  So an ave tower site
with separately
metered service runs us around $75/m.

Garth

- Original Message -
From: can...@believewireless.net

Sent: 6/6/2017 10:32:17 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

> Solar an option?
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Can you just get your own meter installed?  Power should
be like $10-20 a
> > month for a handful of devices.
> >
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340 
<(937)%20552-2340>
> > Direct: 937-552-2343 
<(937)%20552-2343>
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC
mailto:j.vank...@oregononline.net>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal
way to prevent
> >> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a
foreclosure that
> >> went backwards and had been one of the first tower
locations in the area
> >> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Jan V
> >>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[Josh Luthman]

All of our accounts are DP&L (Dayton Power & Light).  They are business
accounts, NOT commercial accounts.  Commercial you are charged based on
peak usage.

Looking at a bill it was $13.05 for 41 kwhr on single phase.  This is 6
Ubnt AP, 1 Ubnt camera, 1 Epmp AP, rb2011, 1 af5x


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 2:01 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:

>
> Almost all of our meters are $22 a month
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* G. Nicholas 
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power
>
> Josh,
>
> I wish I had your utility company, who is your provider?  In IL Ameren
> considers
> tower sites to be business rate not residential, so the basic account
> charge and
> meter charge is $45 even if I use 0 kwh.  So an ave tower site with
> separately
> metered service runs us around $75/m.
>
> Garth
>
> - Original Message -
> From: can...@believewireless.net
> Sent: 6/6/2017 10:32:17 AM
> To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power
>
> > Solar an option?
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Can you just get your own meter installed?  Power should be like
> $10-20 a
> > > month for a handful of devices.
> > >
> > >
> > > Josh Luthman
> > > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> <(937)%20552-2340>
> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> <(937)%20552-2343>
> > > 1100 Wayne St
> > > Suite 1337
> > > Troy, OH 45373
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to
> prevent
> > >> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
> > >> went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the
> area
> > >> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Jan V
> > >>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Almost all of our meters are $22 a month

  - Original Message - 
  From: G. Nicholas 
  To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power


  Josh,

  I wish I had your utility company, who is your provider?  In IL Ameren 
considers 
  tower sites to be business rate not residential, so the basic account charge 
and 
  meter charge is $45 even if I use 0 kwh.  So an ave tower site with 
separately 
  metered service runs us around $75/m.

  Garth

  - Original Message -
  From: can...@believewireless.net
  Sent: 6/6/2017 10:32:17 AM
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

  > Solar an option?
  > 
  > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman 
  > wrote:
  > 
  > > Can you just get your own meter installed?  Power should be like $10-20 a
  > > month for a handful of devices.
  > >
  > >
  > > Josh Luthman
  > > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
  > > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
  > > 1100 Wayne St
  > > Suite 1337
  > > Troy, OH 45373
  > >
  > > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC 
  > > wrote:
  > >
  > >> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
  > >> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
  > >> went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
  > >> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
  > >>
  > >> --
  > >>
  > >> Jan V
  > >>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[David Jones]

I have found that the higher the altitude the farther it can go. where you
are at you will not get the 4x modulation at that range. light rain will
take it down... however snow does not... Icing does.

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Tom Fadgen  wrote:

> Sorry, I missed that you were talking about AF-11FX. Just used to seeing
> everyone pushing the Mimosa 11G links which are not flexible with channel
> sizes and Pols.
>
> Tom Fadgen
> coastinet.com
>
> On Tuesday 06/06/2017 at 9:58 am, Mimbres Communications wrote:
>
> AF-11FX w/ UBNT two foot dishes (should hit 10X on that link, which would
> give you 500 mbits on a single 40 MHz channel) would run ~$4,300 with
> coordination and licensing fees.  Given the reduced risk of rain fade and
> the protection of a licensed link, that looks like a pretty good deal to me.
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> the AF24 will work as long as you can live with a few minutes of downtime
>> during storms, personally I would put it, much cheaper than licensed!!!
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:32 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Too far for an AF24. Licensed is the only way to go. Look at an AF11X.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Eric Williams SDWISP 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 Hello my flow Ubiquitiens.  I’m looking at installing an Air fiber 24
 {non HD} on an 8 mile link in south west California with a good line of
 sight. I’m looking for some feedback on real world experiences. I’m limited
 in space on the AP side so I’m looking at the non HD as it is smaller and
 cheaper than HD. Shooting for 500 Megs of true internet traffics download
 and 100 Megs up. Air link is showing signal of -68, 4X 16 QUM at 500 plus
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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[G. Nicholas]

Josh,

I wish I had your utility company, who is your provider?  In IL Ameren 
considers 
tower sites to be business rate not residential, so the basic account charge 
and 
meter charge is $45 even if I use 0 kwh.  So an ave tower site with separately 
metered service runs us around $75/m.

Garth

- Original Message -
From: can...@believewireless.net
Sent: 6/6/2017 10:32:17 AM
To: ubnt_users@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

> Solar an option?
> 
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
> 
> > Can you just get your own meter installed?  Power should be like $10-20 a
> > month for a handful of devices.
> >
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
> >> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
> >> went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
> >> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Jan V
> >>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Had a similar situation not too long ago, old company had gone out of business 
(or was in process of going under), i just went and gave them the address and 
said i was the current tenent and wanted to turn power on.  They setup a new 
account in my name and sent the former business (who was no longer there) a 
bill for the balance due.  Obviously they'll be writing that amount off...

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Funderburk 
  To: ubnt_users@wispa.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 11:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power


  Years ago I flipped a couple of houses.  I could call the power company 
  with the meter # and they'd tell me if they could turn the power on.  
  Usually it was dependent on whether there was still $ owed on the 
  account.  Not sure if it will work in today's environment but you might 
  try calling them with the # but they may tell you the past due will have 
  to be paid first. If that's the case you can judge if it's worth the cost.

  David


  On 06/06/2017 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
  > Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
  > power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
  > went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
  > more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
  >

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[Tom Fadgen]

Sorry, I missed that you were talking about AF-11FX. Just used to 
seeing everyone pushing the Mimosa 11G links which are not flexible 
with channel sizes and Pols.


Tom Fadgen
coastinet.com


On Tuesday 06/06/2017 at 9:58 am, Mimbres Communications  wrote:


AF-11FX w/ UBNT two foot dishes (should hit 10X on that link, which 
would give you 500 mbits on a single 40 MHz channel) would run ~$4,300 
with coordination and licensing fees.  Given the reduced risk of rain 
fade and the protection of a licensed link, that looks like a pretty 
good deal to me.


On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:



the AF24 will work as long as you can live with a few minutes of 
downtime during storms, personally I would put it, much cheaper than 
licensed!!!




On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:32 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
 wrote:




Too far for an AF24. Licensed is the only way to go. Look at an AF11X.



On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Eric Williams SDWISP 
 wrote:







Hello my flow Ubiquitiens.  I’m looking at installing an Air fiber 
24 {non HD} on an 8 mile link in south west California with a good 
line of sight. I’m looking for some feedback on real world 
experiences. I’m limited in space on the AP side so I’m looking at 
the non HD as it is smaller and cheaper than HD. Shooting for 500 Megs 
of true internet traffics download and 100 Megs up. Air link is 
showing signal of -68, 4X 16 QUM at 500 plus Megs

I’m on the Daily digest list. Thanks for the feedback




Eric Williams W7EMW
Network Administrator
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[Tom Fadgen]

Not here in SoCal.

Tom Fadgen
coastinet.com


On Tuesday 06/06/2017 at 10:09 am, Roy  wrote:




I recently got two 80Mhz wide channels in California  for a Mimosa 
  link without any problems


If you use the Mimosa web site to plan a link, it will show you   
all the 11Ghz coordinated links in your area




On 6/6/2017 10:01 AM, Tom Fadgen wrote:



He is in California. There are no open channels for 11G with 
both Pols available. We should be using the licensed channels 
efficiently.


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[Roy]

  
  

  
  I recently got two 80Mhz wide channels in California  for a Mimosa
  link without any problems 
  
  If you use the Mimosa web site to plan a link, it will show you
  all the 11Ghz coordinated links in your area
  
  
  
  On 6/6/2017 10:01 AM, Tom Fadgen wrote:


  
  He is in California. There are no open channels for 11G with
both Pols available. We should be using the licensed channels
efficiently.
  
  
  Tom Fadgen
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[Adair Winter]

Any amount of rain will take it down at that distance. Have a back link or
be ok with it being down. Here in the Texas Panhandle we have some 1.5 -
2.7 mile links that fade completely out in anything other than a light
rain.

On Jun 6, 2017 10:31 AM, "Eric Williams SDWISP"  wrote:

>
>
> Hello my flow Ubiquitiens.  I’m looking at installing an Air fiber 24 {non
> HD} on an 8 mile link in south west California with a good line of sight.
> I’m looking for some feedback on real world experiences. I’m limited in
> space on the AP side so I’m looking at the non HD as it is smaller and
> cheaper than HD. Shooting for 500 Megs of true internet traffics download
> and 100 Megs up. Air link is showing signal of -68, 4X 16 QUM at 500 plus
> Megs
>
> I’m on the Daily digest list. Thanks for the feedback
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric Williams W7EMW
>
> Network Administrator
>
> 619-698-3904 <(619)%20698-3904> Office
>
> 619-922-6001 <(619)%20922-6001> Support Hot Line
>
>
>
> 9740 Campo Road #211
>
> Spring Valley Ca 91977
>
>
>
> WWW.SDWISP.COM
>
> SDWISP Begins Where Fiber Ends
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[Tom Fadgen]

He is in California. There are no open channels for 11G with both Pols 
available. We should be using the licensed channels efficiently.


Tom Fadgen
coastinet.com


On Tuesday 06/06/2017 at 9:58 am, Mimbres Communications  wrote:


AF-11FX w/ UBNT two foot dishes (should hit 10X on that link, which 
would give you 500 mbits on a single 40 MHz channel) would run ~$4,300 
with coordination and licensing fees.  Given the reduced risk of rain 
fade and the protection of a licensed link, that looks like a pretty 
good deal to me.


On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:



the AF24 will work as long as you can live with a few minutes of 
downtime during storms, personally I would put it, much cheaper than 
licensed!!!




On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:32 AM, can...@believewireless.net 
 wrote:




Too far for an AF24. Licensed is the only way to go. Look at an AF11X.



On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Eric Williams SDWISP 
 wrote:







Hello my flow Ubiquitiens.  I’m looking at installing an Air fiber 
24 {non HD} on an 8 mile link in south west California with a good 
line of sight. I’m looking for some feedback on real world 
experiences. I’m limited in space on the AP side so I’m looking at 
the non HD as it is smaller and cheaper than HD. Shooting for 500 Megs 
of true internet traffics download and 100 Megs up. Air link is 
showing signal of -68, 4X 16 QUM at 500 plus Megs

I’m on the Daily digest list. Thanks for the feedback




Eric Williams W7EMW
Network Administrator
619-698-3904 Office
619-922-6001 Support Hot Line

9740 Campo Road #211
Spring Valley Ca 91977

WWW.SDWISP.COM
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[Mimbres Communications]

AF-11FX w/ UBNT two foot dishes (should hit 10X on that link, which would
give you 500 mbits on a single 40 MHz channel) would run ~$4,300 with
coordination and licensing fees.  Given the reduced risk of rain fade and
the protection of a licensed link, that looks like a pretty good deal to me.

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> the AF24 will work as long as you can live with a few minutes of downtime
> during storms, personally I would put it, much cheaper than licensed!!!
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:32 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>
>> Too far for an AF24. Licensed is the only way to go. Look at an AF11X.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Eric Williams SDWISP 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello my flow Ubiquitiens.  I’m looking at installing an Air fiber 24
>>> {non HD} on an 8 mile link in south west California with a good line of
>>> sight. I’m looking for some feedback on real world experiences. I’m limited
>>> in space on the AP side so I’m looking at the non HD as it is smaller and
>>> cheaper than HD. Shooting for 500 Megs of true internet traffics download
>>> and 100 Megs up. Air link is showing signal of -68, 4X 16 QUM at 500 plus
>>> Megs
>>>
>>> I’m on the Daily digest list. Thanks for the feedback
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Williams W7EMW
>>>
>>> Network Administrator
>>>
>>> 619-698-3904 <(619)%20698-3904> Office
>>>
>>> 619-922-6001 <(619)%20922-6001> Support Hot Line
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 9740 Campo Road #211
>>>
>>> Spring Valley Ca 91977
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WWW.SDWISP.COM
>>>
>>> SDWISP Begins Where Fiber Ends
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[Tom Fadgen]

I have a 6 mile link and has been running great most of the time(non 
rain days) for 3+ yrs. This last year was not as good. I have a 5G 
mimosa backup on the link though. I would not use it for 8 miles 
though unless you need it now and will replace with licensed before 
the rain comes. I also have a Trango 24G link and it has never gone 
down just demodulate at 5.5 miles with 2' dishes.


Tom Fadgen


On Tuesday 06/06/2017 at 8:36 am, Eric Williams SDWISP  wrote:




Hello my flow Ubiquitiens.  I’m looking at installing an Air fiber 
24 {non HD} on an 8 mile link in south west California with a good 
line of sight. I’m looking for some feedback on real world 
experiences. I’m limited in space on the AP side so I’m looking at 
the non HD as it is smaller and cheaper than HD. Shooting for 500 Megs 
of true internet traffics download and 100 Megs up. Air link is 
showing signal of -68, 4X 16 QUM at 500 plus Megs

I’m on the Daily digest list. Thanks for the feedback




Eric Williams W7EMW
Network Administrator
619-698-3904 Office
619-922-6001 Support Hot Line

9740 Campo Road #211
Spring Valley Ca 91977

WWW.SDWISP.COM
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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[David Funderburk]

Years ago I flipped a couple of houses.  I could call the power company 
with the meter # and they'd tell me if they could turn the power on.  
Usually it was dependent on whether there was still $ owed on the 
account.  Not sure if it will work in today's environment but you might 
try calling them with the # but they may tell you the past due will have 
to be paid first. If that's the case you can judge if it's worth the cost.

David


On 06/06/2017 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC wrote:
> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
> went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
>

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[Kurt Fankhauser]

the AF24 will work as long as you can live with a few minutes of downtime
during storms, personally I would put it, much cheaper than licensed!!!

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:32 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> Too far for an AF24. Licensed is the only way to go. Look at an AF11X.
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Eric Williams SDWISP 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hello my flow Ubiquitiens.  I’m looking at installing an Air fiber 24
>> {non HD} on an 8 mile link in south west California with a good line of
>> sight. I’m looking for some feedback on real world experiences. I’m limited
>> in space on the AP side so I’m looking at the non HD as it is smaller and
>> cheaper than HD. Shooting for 500 Megs of true internet traffics download
>> and 100 Megs up. Air link is showing signal of -68, 4X 16 QUM at 500 plus
>> Megs
>>
>> I’m on the Daily digest list. Thanks for the feedback
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Williams W7EMW
>>
>> Network Administrator
>>
>> 619-698-3904 <(619)%20698-3904> Office
>>
>> 619-922-6001 <(619)%20922-6001> Support Hot Line
>>
>>
>>
>> 9740 Campo Road #211
>>
>> Spring Valley Ca 91977
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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[can...@believewireless.net]

Too far for an AF24. Licensed is the only way to go. Look at an AF11X.

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Eric Williams SDWISP 
wrote:

>
>
> Hello my flow Ubiquitiens.  I’m looking at installing an Air fiber 24 {non
> HD} on an 8 mile link in south west California with a good line of sight.
> I’m looking for some feedback on real world experiences. I’m limited in
> space on the AP side so I’m looking at the non HD as it is smaller and
> cheaper than HD. Shooting for 500 Megs of true internet traffics download
> and 100 Megs up. Air link is showing signal of -68, 4X 16 QUM at 500 plus
> Megs
>
> I’m on the Daily digest list. Thanks for the feedback
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric Williams W7EMW
>
> Network Administrator
>
> 619-698-3904 <(619)%20698-3904> Office
>
> 619-922-6001 <(619)%20922-6001> Support Hot Line
>
>
>
> 9740 Campo Road #211
>
> Spring Valley Ca 91977
>
>
>
> WWW.SDWISP.COM
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[can...@believewireless.net]

Solar an option?

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Can you just get your own meter installed?  Power should be like $10-20 a
> month for a handful of devices.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:29 AM, Jan-OOLLC 
> wrote:
>
>> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
>> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
>> went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
>> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
>>
>> --
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[Ubnt_users] Air fiber 24 real world experiences feedback please

[Eric Williams SDWISP]

 

Hello my flow Ubiquitiens.  I'm looking at installing an Air fiber 24 {non
HD} on an 8 mile link in south west California with a good line of sight.
I'm looking for some feedback on real world experiences. I'm limited in
space on the AP side so I'm looking at the non HD as it is smaller and
cheaper than HD. Shooting for 500 Megs of true internet traffics download
and 100 Megs up. Air link is showing signal of -68, 4X 16 QUM at 500 plus
Megs 

I'm on the Daily digest list. Thanks for the feedback

 

 

 

Eric Williams W7EMW

Network Administrator

619-698-3904 Office

619-922-6001 Support Hot Line

 

9740 Campo Road #211

Spring Valley Ca 91977

 

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[Josh Luthman]

Can you just get your own meter installed?  Power should be like $10-20 a
month for a handful of devices.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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wrote:

> Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent
> power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that
> went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area
> more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)
>
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[Ubnt_users] new owner turning off power

[Jan-OOLLC]

Relocating tower, yes obvious solution, is there a legal way to prevent 
power from being turned off in the meantime?  (FYI--a foreclosure that 
went backwards and had been one of the first tower locations in the area 
more than 10 years, so we believed the customer)

-- 

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