Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's
Most of my links are within 1 mile. All in all, I like the dishes better as well. Shipping is what kills us here in AK though. I am looking forward to the light beams, but they probably won't work right for another year or so after they start shipping if UBNT follows the same release pattern as there other newly released products :) On Oct 9, 2016 6:15 AM, "Phil Curnutt" wrote: > 8 beta-17. I replaced the pair of 19 with a pair of PBE-5AC-300 and the > link works just as expected. After looking at the antenna patterns of the > 16's and 19's it looks as if the beam is to wide with overly large side > lobes, so most of the Tx power is being wasted on a PtP or PtMP that is > over .5 miles long. Seeing as the cost of the 300 is with in a few bucks > of the 19's we are going to only use the 300s. > > Phil > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 3:07 AM, Chris Ruschmann > wrote: > >> I do have this issue on several ptmp connections using the latest beta >> firmware. I figured it was a bug. What firmware are you running? >> >> On Oct 6, 2016 1:39 PM, "Phil Curnutt" wrote: >> >>> I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair >>> of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55. After connecting the >>> link the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the >>> radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth. With help from the Alignment >>> Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5 >>> degree down rather then 1 degree up. We could achieve the same Chain0, >>> Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the >>> Station aimed 6 degrees down. I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300 >>> and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better. So, today >>> I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47. >>> >>> So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam? >>> We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work >>> just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up. >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's
8 beta-17. I replaced the pair of 19 with a pair of PBE-5AC-300 and the link works just as expected. After looking at the antenna patterns of the 16's and 19's it looks as if the beam is to wide with overly large side lobes, so most of the Tx power is being wasted on a PtP or PtMP that is over .5 miles long. Seeing as the cost of the 300 is with in a few bucks of the 19's we are going to only use the 300s. Phil On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 3:07 AM, Chris Ruschmann wrote: > I do have this issue on several ptmp connections using the latest beta > firmware. I figured it was a bug. What firmware are you running? > > On Oct 6, 2016 1:39 PM, "Phil Curnutt" wrote: > >> I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair >> of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55. After connecting the >> link the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the >> radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth. With help from the Alignment >> Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5 >> degree down rather then 1 degree up. We could achieve the same Chain0, >> Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the >> Station aimed 6 degrees down. I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300 >> and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better. So, today >> I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47. >> >> So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam? >> We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work >> just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up. >> >> Phil >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's
I do have this issue on several ptmp connections using the latest beta firmware. I figured it was a bug. What firmware are you running? On Oct 6, 2016 1:39 PM, "Phil Curnutt" wrote: > I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair > of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55. After connecting the link > the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the > radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth. With help from the Alignment > Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5 > degree down rather then 1 degree up. We could achieve the same Chain0, > Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the > Station aimed 6 degrees down. I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300 > and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better. So, today > I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47. > > So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam? > We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work > just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up. > > Phil > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's
We have them as CPEs, PtPs. PtP 3 mile in noisy area getting 50Mbps. -65 sig -87 NF On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:05 AM, Nathan Babcock wrote: > I have never had good luck with them. We ended up giving ours away to > anyone who would take them and just stopped buying them altogether. > > > > *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] > *On Behalf Of *Phil Curnutt > *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:39 PM > *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group > *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's > > > > I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair > of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55. After connecting the link > the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the > radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth. With help from the Alignment > Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5 > degree down rather then 1 degree up. We could achieve the same Chain0, > Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the > Station aimed 6 degrees down. I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300 > and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better. So, today > I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47. > > > > So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam? > We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work > just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up. > > > > Phil > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -- Clay Stewart, COO/CTO SCS Broadband A Division of Acelanet, LLC 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@scsbroadband.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Please send sales inquiries to sa...@scsbroadband.com Please send service/repair requests to supp...@scsbroadband.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's
I have never had good luck with them. We ended up giving ours away to anyone who would take them and just stopped buying them altogether. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:39 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55. After connecting the link the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth. With help from the Alignment Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5 degree down rather then 1 degree up. We could achieve the same Chain0, Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the Station aimed 6 degrees down. I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300 and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better. So, today I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47. So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam? We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up. Phil ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's
I only tried the one pair. They were probably ordered a year ago. Phil On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Joseph Novak wrote: > I've done a couple short (400-500ft) throws with these and have had great > luck... do you have any other pairs from a different batch to test out of? > > On Oct 6, 2016 4:39 PM, "Phil Curnutt" wrote: > >> I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair >> of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55. After connecting the >> link the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the >> radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth. With help from the Alignment >> Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5 >> degree down rather then 1 degree up. We could achieve the same Chain0, >> Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the >> Station aimed 6 degrees down. I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300 >> and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better. So, today >> I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47. >> >> So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam? >> We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work >> just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up. >> >> Phil >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's
I've done a couple short (400-500ft) throws with these and have had great luck... do you have any other pairs from a different batch to test out of? On Oct 6, 2016 4:39 PM, "Phil Curnutt" wrote: > I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair > of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55. After connecting the link > the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the > radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth. With help from the Alignment > Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5 > degree down rather then 1 degree up. We could achieve the same Chain0, > Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the > Station aimed 6 degrees down. I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300 > and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better. So, today > I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47. > > So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam? > We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work > just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up. > > Phil > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
[Ubnt_users] NanoBeam 5AC-19's and PowerBeam 5AC-300's
I had a short back bone link from one small AP to another so used a pair of NBE-5AC-19's expecting an Rx of around -55. After connecting the link the best we could get was a -66 on Chain0 and a -77 on Chain1 when the radios were at the proper tilt and azimuth. With help from the Alignment Tool we got it down to a -60/-70, but AP end of the link was aimed about 5 degree down rather then 1 degree up. We could achieve the same Chain0, Chain1 imbalance the other way with the AP aimed 1 degree up and the Station aimed 6 degrees down. I replace the Station end with a PBE-5AC-300 and dropped the Chain0/Chain1 signals to -60/-70, but no better. So, today I replace the AP end with another 300 and the signal dropped to -47/-47. So, the question is has anyone else seen this behavior in the NanoBeam? We have a bunch of them in use on PtMP AP's using sectors and they work just as expected, but when used as PtP this weird astigmatism shows up. Phil ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
