[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
This version has expired ** Changed in: initramfs-tools Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Exactly the same bug is still on 11.10, fresh install. But the v86d fix does not work (blank screen) on this version so Ubuntu seems to have regressed here. Also the consoles (Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc) do not work which may be related, or maybe they are related to Bug #728745 I dont know. I pin my hopes on 12.04 now I guess. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Sorry, I should say 11.10 is the same as 11.04. There is random black and white stripes, not big Ubuntu logo. So far its getting worse on every new release. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I confirm #140: With my Nvidia video card, after a clean install of 11.10, the monitor only shows Video mode not supported from boot until gdm. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I predict that this bug will affect that next LTS too. The frame buffer doesn't support my monitor's resolution either, as I tried this fix manually already. And it's a common resolution (1920x1080). The release after the next should have been the one to include plymouth. Not 10.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Actually, it's better in 10.04, because at least it shows the logo, even if it's big and ugly. It screws up in all kinds of interesting ways in 10.10 and 11.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
For me clean install of Kubuntu 11.10 64b fixed this problem. I have NVidia GeForce480 GS in Dell Precision T5500 and the boot process now displays the full resolution (as far as I can tell) Kubuntu logo and asks for pasword for encrypted discs with nice graphic prompt. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Actually sorry, the computer where the problem is fixed was an upgrade from 11.04, not a clean install. In either case it improved since in 11.04. In 11.04 the logo wasn't grahics, just text mode and the password prompt was in a text mode as well. Now it is all graphic. The fix I have applied in 11.04 was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs- tools/+bug/771905/comments/39 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:29:01AM -, Andrew Schulman wrote: I confirm #140: With my Nvidia video card, after a clean install of 11.10, the monitor only shows Video mode not supported from boot until gdm. Unfortunately, VBE doesn't give us EDID information about supported monitor resolutions. You can set GRUB_GFXMODE in /etc/default/grub to a supported value and rerun 'sudo update-grub' to get graphical output. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
** Also affects: initramfs-tools Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
In natty and above, it's possible to fix this by making sure we have vesafb access to the framebuffer that grub2 passes us at boot time. This needs one small fix in initramfs-tools for oneiric. ** Package changed: plymouth (Ubuntu) = initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Steve Langasek (vorlon) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Someone attempted to make a fix for Ubuntu 10.04 and newer: http://kyleabaker.com/2010/07/11/how-to-fix-your-ubuntu-boot-screen/ For me (Ubuntu Xubuntu 11.04, nVidia proprietary driver, BURG on Dell XPS M1730 with nVidia 8700GT SLI) it only reactivates the graphical logo during shutdown, and I still get the text logo instead during startup. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/initramfs-tools -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
This bug was fixed in the package initramfs-tools - 0.99ubuntu6 --- initramfs-tools (0.99ubuntu6) oneiric; urgency=low * scripts/init-top/framebuffer: fall back to vesafb if no other framebuffer is found/configured, so we can take full advantage of the grub gfxpayload handoff support. This ensures we get a clean framebuffer-based plymouth screen even when using binary video drivers. LP: #864149, LP: #563878, LP: #771905. -- Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:53:15 -0700 ** Changed in: initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
This bug affects me. The workaround from idyllic only works on my machine if Ubuntu Meerkat is installed. With Ubuntu Narwhal, it does not work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/563878/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Which Ubuntu version is that working on? I cant find libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental for 10.04 I did try it on natty beta2 (called experimental 3D driver in jockey driver list) and it worked well, but it seems to have vanished now natty has been released. Plymouth does not work at all on natty, just black and white striped garbage! Wish I did not have an nvidia card :-( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
The new experimental open source nVidia driver, libgl1-mesa-dri- experimental, is fantastic! It's so nice to be able to display my boot screen correctly without having to fiddle with my system. The only change I woulda made woulda been to install it be default, but all in good time, I suppose. Gonna stop following related duplicate bugs. :-D -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
It was a bug for me, but after upgrade to Natty i'm having this (bug 771905). It is sad -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I cannot even get the nvidia drivers to work on 11.04. But have tried the v86d fix. It is functional, but the largest mode I am allowed is 1280 x 1024 (on a 1680 x 1050 monitor). The result is a logo thats still a bit fuzzy, and the background is sort of chequered stripes, with a gap for the Ubuntu logo. So it works but its still a bit grotty, but at least I don't have to look away anymore. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Still a problem with 11.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
This is *not* a question of opinion. The splash screen *is* rendering incorrectly when using the binary drivers, and this is something that needs to be fixed; it just isn't done yet because it's a difficult bug to fix and other bugs have taken priority. Please don't mark as 'Opinion' a bug that has been triaged by the developers! ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu) Status: Opinion = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
„How hard can it be to understand the following simple sentence: THE USER DOESN'T CARE. Pushing the blame around doesn't help anybody.” -- Linus Torvalds The user really doesn't care if his problem is caused by incompatibility between the driver and the OS or lack of cooperation between driver and OS developers. Yes, You and I can fix it, but I think that majority of new users can't. Yes, this bug affects users for few seconds when booting up, but what kind of excuse is that? Users boot up their system every day. You may think, that statements that somebody is embarrassed when watched over his arm is somewhat silly, but impression is very important for potential users. This can be a deal breaker. If you think, that we are wasting your precious time trying to communicate with developers here, show us better way to rise their concern in that matter. Excuse that Windows costs money, Linux doesn't is IMO not valid too. You want to say that Linux is not in the same league? PS You can make Windows look like OSX in no time - check out flyakiteosx. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
They need to branch out into a hardcore linux guru version and a window convert version if they want to keep pursuing these two completely different career paths. Yes that is the point. In a month we wil have Unity instead of Gnome. I am comfortable with that but my users probably will not be. Ik think there's too much fiddling going on with every new version, constant changes don't appeal to users that want a simple to use OS. I can remember the disastrous transition to alpha-KDE4 in Mandriva, some years ago. That was the reason I completely lost faith in Mandriva (I used MDV from 2000, quite a long time) and I decided to convert all my systems to Ubuntu. Only now I find out that Ubuntu has many more bugs with every release than Mandriva ever had. I think the release cycle is too short, make it a year to test and think it out thoroughly. I have converted quite some Windows users to Ubuntu, installed and configured everything for them, gave support, but I stopped with that when this bug happened. It was just one thing too many to explain (yes one guy told me it looked ugly). I just got tired of it. My current users are on LTS karmic or earlier and I think I will not upgrade their systems for a long time to come now, especially with the new Unity coming up, because I learned in the past that a switch to a new desktop can be totally off putting. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
The real problem here is people who pretend that the greatest thing a linux distribution can do is immediately embrace new technologies that are not yet fully supported by vendor drivers, yet continue to harass users to install vendor drivers right after installing their OS. When you go even deeper, the real problem is that Ubuntu wants to be at the forefront of technology, but at the same time has a solid following from people who expect it to be stable and presentable as a demonstration of the advantages of Linux above other operating systems. Ubuntu developers can't keep trying to walk along both of these tightropes; they have to decide eventually. Personally I am happy to see Ubuntu keep pushing into new technologies. In the meantime they can't keep simultaneously pushing themselves as a leader in new things like wayland (which I couldn't be more excited about) yet still present themselves as a stable, professional system. They need to branch out into a hardcore linux guru version and a window convert version if they want to keep pursuing these two completely different career paths. And gslack, you might want to try reading posts before replying to them. I've tried and condoned many solutions to the splash screen problem. I've just taken these posts beyond this simple problem and applied them to the project as a whole. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
In response to #116: Microsoft charges you $200 and up for a full version of Windows 7, they do not run an X-server environment but rather have direct input and cooperation with the drivers and their respective manufacturers. They don't run a X server because they have full on mutual cooperation from hardware vendors. Linux on the other hand (at this point in time) is not granted full on access to the code by the vendors for their drivers. All open source linux drivers are reverse engineered and being that windows holds the lions share of the market and has the most money, and most games are written to run in windows using their mutual windows and hardware vendors directx API and drivers, this is going to have problems no matter what. All all video card hardware is designed to use DirectX, thats where the games and entertainment money is, all use of Open GL and X-Server functionality is an afterthought at best and often times not even addressed at all (ATI until recently). They do not write Linux drivers well, nor do they care to try very hard, because: 1. No money in games for linux. No gamers money, no need for the expensive gaming hardware with 1 gig of gddr3 memory. 2. In their minds (business men) there is no protection for their intellectual property if the drivers and firmware are freely shared. 3. Microsoft wouldn't like their API technology freely shared with a free and faster alternative OS. And that again besides illegal, would cut into microsoft market and money. The drivers for the hardware vendors like ATI and Nvidia are closed source. Meaning they do not share code openly and freely with anyone they do not have a deal with. Linux by its very nature will not make any such deal because it goes against the very principles it adheres to. And even if they would they couldn't. Microsoft wouldn't allow it and further the costs would make linux no longer free. The only reason we get any proprietary drivers from ATI and Nvidia is by their good graces and only as an appeasement to satisfy their customers wanting to use linux. They don't write drivers for big servers and infrastructure appliances running a linux kernel, they don't want or need a fancy new video card to run a game. SO any and all 3d functionality is a waste. They write those drivers for the people who play the games, games written to run in windows. And when they feel like it they throw the linux people a bone. Ubuntu had NO way to know ahead of time about an issue with a closed source driver. To say it was their fault because windows doesn't have an issue with a driver written to run hardware specifically designed to their OS, is an unfair claim to say the least. As far as Ubuntu not looking professional, they manage to take a bit of an unstable branch of Debian (not a very desktop centric Disto at all) and not only make it as stable as any other distro if not more so, but at the same time manage to make it as user friendly to an average person as any distro ever. They do this and make it attractive to look at, package it nicely, make it easy for anyone with an internet connection to find and get a copy, and at the same time maintain several different styles of desktops, and different versions supporting all kinds of hardware, all of this and it costs us nothing to use... Microsoft with infinite resources and money, with hardware vendors all making their products specifically for them, writing their code specifically for them, and how many architectures do they support?.. And how much does it cost??? Professional?? A professional deals with what he has to and makes the most of what he has to work with, and if they can even make it work well enough to get a user base then they are the professionals. Microsoft releases a new OS every 5-8 years, or whenever they want to usurp more of the market. And you don't get a choice in how it works or how it runs, and very little choice in how it looks. Frankly if you install linux to impress your friends then you must have had enough knowledge to snazz it up somewhat. The best thing about linux as far aesthetics is the fact it is completely customizable. Want it to look like your wife's Apple ipads interface? Well there is most likely a package for that and best of all its free of charge. Have a problem? Well there are places like this with all kinds of people all willing to take the time to help you and again its free of charge for a personal user. And most likely some person smarter than I will write a patch for this little blemish very soon and that too will be free of charge. Sorry if this got long and turned into a rant, but I always root for the underdog, and ya can't get anymore of an underdog than linux. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
gslack, You sure went all out on that rant. But the fact of the matter is, every one of us here knows more than enough about how hardware vendors don't fully support linux. After ten years I'm getting tired of hearing excuses about Microsoft whispering sweet nothings into ATI and nvidia's ears as they conspire to make it impossible for linux to beg for a working X-based desktop. That time is past and I've found that their drivers work quite well in X these days, with ONE exception. That would be KMS. Ubuntu used to have a splash screen that worked quite well with every hardware platform I ever tried it on (several.) But now that has changed despite hundreds of people protesting, some in this thread. And I might add, engage capslock mode THIS WAS DONE KNOWING THAT KERNEL MODE SETTING DOES NOT WORK WITH VENDOR DRIVERS /capslock so I don't want to hear that AGAIN/ I'm sorry to engage capslock but I don't know how this could possibly be stated with any more clarity. Now, I don't want to hear anything about us being ungrateful, or unknowledgable, or unwilling to put the effort into linux ourselves. We have presented our solutions, our workarounds, and our deep considerate thought into this and many similar issues and we're always faced with a wall of excuses about vendor support and technological superiority with a few (assumed small) sacrifices. We need a new category of bug named shameful -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
And I don't want to hear any more excuses about vendors not being as fully into the Linux game as we wish they were. They devote as much time and resources as they can and as their market allows. They actually are putting effort into their drivers, but KMS was sprung on them at the last second. And before that second could expire, ubuntu decided to fully embrace a system that only worked with KMS drivers. You don't think that might have at least irked them a little? I don't need to explain that I love Linux and all the philosophy behind it, as my passion in posting here should fully expose that. But I would have to be an ignorant fool to believe that Linux developers don't make mistakes. And here, the mistake was made within the Linux community. The only way to fix it is to root out people who make the same tired excuses we've been hearing for years. I know this particular bug is only about splash screen appearance, but this problem plagues this project in several other areas and needs to be solved. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Canonical has no interest in reverting Plymouth, and cannot force Nvidia or ATI to add the required hooks to their drivers. Nothing else needs to be said about this, so please give 140 inboxes a rest. If this still bothers you, go contribute your time to another project, as I did. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
On 27/03/11 09:56, Jason Wagner wrote: Canonical has no interest in reverting Plymouth, and cannot force Nvidia or ATI to add the required hooks to their drivers. Nothing else needs to be said about this, so please give 140 inboxes a rest. If this still bothers you, go contribute your time to another project, as I did. While I agree with that sentiment, it's also true that one can always unsubscribe from a bug if the comments come to contain more heat than light. And I suppose I really should too... ;-) -- Rachel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Since this is a heated topic and quite important to me, I'll add my opinion and ask a question too. This may not be a usability issue for those that are familiar with computers and linux, but those who are not and see this will assume they did something wrong when installing vendor drivers or linux just isn't working well. How would you feel when you are constantly chased by a feeling something might break any minute now and you loose your data. I know this isn't true for the 99% of the time, but it really doesn't matter if it is true or not, it only matters what people think. The little things are those that make simple people (that make most the population of our planet), look at linux differently, and get the impression it's just another windoze ripoff. And how do you think does it make me feel when I say to people that ubuntu is a fine system and then when I boot it up, the first thing they see is something that does not work. And I might add, engage capslock mode THIS WAS DONE KNOWING THAT KERNEL MODE SETTING DOES NOT WORK WITH VENDOR DRIVERS /capslock so I don't want to hear that AGAIN/ And Why did they do that? Isn't it obvious that every one that has a chance to install vendor drivers will do this right away? Give me a good reason (and don't involve vendors here) and I won't mention this problem ever again. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:14:49AM -, Rachel Greenham wrote: On 27/03/11 09:56, Jason Wagner wrote: Canonical has no interest in reverting Plymouth, and cannot force Nvidia or ATI to add the required hooks to their drivers. Nothing else needs to be said about this, so please give 140 inboxes a rest. If this still bothers you, go contribute your time to another project, as I did. While I agree with that sentiment, it's also true that one can always unsubscribe from a bug if the comments come to contain more heat than light. And I suppose I really should too... ;-) Except those of us who are subscribed to this bug because we're the developers who work on the plymouth package in Ubuntu. The launchpad bug system is *not a discussion forum*. Using it as one only serves to take up developer time that would otherwise be used for fixing bugs in Ubuntu (including this one). -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I was the person who started this bug report nearly one year ago now. I intended to alert the developers to the presence of a bug I thought might affect my graphics card only. I didn't start it with the desire of creating a rant page as seen in forums. I felt a bit awkward when I sent it off - I didn't see how something that doesn't affect the security or stability of a system could count as a bug at a time when developers had more important things to look at. I preferred they put all their efforts into making the show-stopping things work properly rather than concentrating too much of their time and effort on purely visual things. Whereas I agree that it'd be nice for this splashscreen to work soon, I'd rather Unity functions properly the very day Natty comes out, or that Wayland doesn't screw anything up in the next release, or that kernel vulnerabilities are plugged up... When all that works, then's then time to concentrate on making those few little moments when the computer starts up a visual treat. Believe me I look forward to it, but let's get our priorities right. Personally, I think this bug report has run its course. All the developers are aware of this issue so maybe it's time to call it a day and close tit. I personally will unsubscribe from my own bug report because I find nothing constructive in these endless rants. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Nathaniel, I too am sorry you felt you had engage capslock.LOL You said it embarrassed you when friends looked over your shoulder while the loading screen was displayed. As another poster pointed out thats the real problem here. Many of us here told you how to fix it, you can try one of those or not, its up to you. But telling us how its ubuntu's fault when it wasn't their drivers issue but rather those from the vendor, is going to ruffle more than a few feathers. Please try the one of or all of the fixes mentioned on here, and one of them will most likely fix the issue. Or you can sit there and tell us all how unprofessional Ubuntu is again. Either way now its on you. Good luck. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
The work arounds work to varying degrees for most people experiencing this issue, and I won't rehash them. That being said, I run the ATI proprietary driver in Ubuntu 10.10 and had this issue as well. This is an issue with proprietary drivers and NOT plymouth itself or Ubuntu. This is a prime example of closed versus open source and these type of things can and do happen. Until vendors such as ATI, Nvidia, et al, share openly with open source programmers these issues will pop up from time to time. My issue was fixed using a combination of startup manager (as mentioned above) and grabbing the latest stable release of the ATI proprietary driver. Frankly I cannot be sure which actually fixed the issue because I used startup manager while the latest driver was downloading. I didn't see the issue as being a big deal and really didn't pay much attention to it. All I really know is now the issue is fixed and the only changes I made were to use startup manager, install the Latest ATI prop driver, and a bit later install Zorin splash screen utility (can't remember its name ATM). So one of these or all of them fixed it for me. Sorry I cannot be more specific but as I said before this was not a big concern of mine and so the fix wasn't a priority. Personally I feel this is a simple cosmetic problem and being that it is not harming the functionality and only on screen for a few seconds, it most likely will never be a high priority to fix. Oh I am sure it will be fixed sooner or later but not before things like the ethernet/DHCP issues and such are ironed out. Those issues are effecting the functionality so rightly should be a higher priority. Along with that, ATI and Nvidia are not going to go out of their way for this cosmetic issue any time soon. Bottom line is try the work arounds mentioned several times here, or wait for the next update and hope they or ATI/Nvidia fix it. This is the current price we pay for a completely free (as in to use) OS. As long as big M, big U, and big A are able to do what they do unhindered, these things will continue to pop up. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
The issue here is not necessarily that the display method used by plymouth is incompatible with proprietary drivers. I would say the issue is that the developers made an unnecessary switch to this display method knowing full well that the proprietary drivers didn't support it yet. I'm with everybody else who says that although this problem obviously doesn't break anything, it certainly doesn't make ubuntu look like a professional, polished product. Seriously though, even Microsoft has this part of their OS right, and they can't even figure out how to make an application menu that's not riddled with bugs. I love showing off linux to all my friends, but quite frankly if I catch them looking over my shoulder as ubuntu is booting up, I feel embarrassed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
if I catch them looking over my shoulder as ubuntu is booting up, I feel embarrassed. this pretty much sums up the problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
This bug is the one and only bug I have been able to notice after an upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10. That means that the 10.10 install would be working 100% perfectly for me, if this bug was fixed. Instead, the crucial first ten second impression is ruined by a scary and broken looking boot screen. It's like a dealer delivering a brand new Lexus with a keyed door. I can't imagine how off-putting this could be for someone who didn't realize it was merely a transient graphical glitch - a non-technical user might be afraid to trust the entire system after seeing this boot screen. First impressions count! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
completely disagree with people who say this is a minor bug. it's a major show stopper for the whole project. just wonder why it takes so long for Canonical team to fix it. Ubuntu is loosing face, literally... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
On 17/03/2011 09:25, Kom-Si wrote: completely disagree with people who say this is a minor bug. it's a major show stopper for the whole project. just wonder why it takes so long for Canonical team to fix it. Ubuntu is loosing face, literally... does seem to be substantially resolved in natty for nvidia at least. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
But it is there in Lucid. And Lucid is LTS and aimed at the more professional market. You can't have a bug like this in an LTS version. It's just plain stupid. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
But it is there in Lucid. and in Maverick, too. and nobody's gonna jump to Natty simply because the 'stupid' splash screen bug is fixed there. I'd rather keep on using 10.10 with a decent splash screen. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Exactly. But you shouldn't have gone to this broken boot-up software in the first place before you had the bugs out of it. When it doesn't work on essentially all high end graphics hardware and a good portion of low end hardware, it doesn't work. I'm sick of Ubuntu repeated replacing working software with broken software because some corporate egg head thinks it's the way forward. I can understand why they do it, but I can still make it crystal clear to you why it was the wrong choice to move to Plymouth. Maybe there are some back-end benefits to it. But seeing as it is an extremely visible part of the user experience that everybody sees, I really think Ubuntu shot itself in the foot by replacing the beautiful boot up sequence of 9.10 with this broken piece of , only to fix it *after* the LTS release. I think this bug speaks of everything that's wrong with Linux on the desktop, which can easily be summarized briefly as a prioritization of some developer's idea of inner beauty over the *actual* user experience. Nobody cares if Plymouth is a couple seconds faster or easier for developers to work with if it looks like . And the fact that LTS users have to live with this horrible decision it is just plain disturbing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Whoa there, fella. Take it easy. Plymouth mostly looks and works great. This is a bug, and they're fixing it. There's no call for abuse. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
What I meant is that I don't see what was wrong with the late X approach of 9.10. It completely avoided the need for driver support. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
To me, the point is this. Canonical draw attention to this new feature by advertising it as an improvement. Then after the first boot, the user is *prompted*, by the system, to install the nvidia drivers. Then it goes all crappy. I just look away while its booting :-\ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
And it works fine until user decides to install a proprietary driver which does not like some other driver to be loaded before it. The behaviour cannot be changed because the driver is proprietary (try forcing Nvidia and ATI to amend this). So why is it working on Natty then? And why is one prompted right after a fresh install to install the proprietary drivers? That's why making a neater bootscreen experience requires the new opensource graphics drivers - 'nouveau' for Nvidia and 'radeon' for ATI. Both are still incomplete but work, try them. TV-Out doesn't work with nouveau drivers and it probably never will. I need TV-Out all the time. a simple tweak using VESA mode (explained earlier in this thread) can get you a nice bootscreen again. How will a noob ubuntu user be able to apply technical fixes? If you are a techie you can just as well skip Ubuntu and might want to run GenToo. But an ordinary desktop user is not going to apply patches. Ubuntu is supposed to be the distro for everyone, so Canonical not fixing this bug an leaving it to the user just doesn't add up. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Use open drivers - a default choice for most users 2 apienk: who says that? any statistics? visual effects don't work without proprietary drivers, the whole GUI experience using 'nouveau' is abhorrent. of course I tried 'nouveau', and I can surely say that it's lame. it's not just eye-candy that I'm talking about - many apps need normal video support, and 'nouveau' just isn't up to the task. the only thing 'nouveau' really does is the splash screen, whereas the proprietary driver does the rest, except the splash. I wish someone bridged the gap... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Ok, we all agree that this is a bug. Nouveau has several issues (bug 553789 being one of the rather grave ones that affect me personally) so just suggesting to use that rather than the nvidia driver doesn't help many of us. As for why plymouth is there: It functions as a message manager between the user and the asynchronous upstart system services which would fight for keyboard input and mix their messages without a manager which would be a total chaos. That's why simply getting rid of plymouth isn't really doable (don't ask me why they didn't postpone upstart instead, I don't know). Also, the change in natty was already tried in maverick, but back then it broke much more than it fixed so it was quickly reverted. Those issues were adressed by the parties involved so with natty this should look better. Note that it is highly unlikely that those fixes will be backported to lucid and maverick. . While I agree that the text mode splash looks horrible and I passionately hate it, the risk is too high that trying to fix this in the stable releases would make the system unbootable for many (or it wouldn't have taken until natty to improve it). I'm not a developer either, only a long time alpha tester that has nvidia cards so don't ask me about more details there. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I completely disagree with the people who consider this to be a low priority issue. On systems with encrypted drives (LUKS/cryptsetup/dm- crypt) the splash screen serves the purpose of entering passphrases to decrypt the drives. The usability in low resolution mode is complete different than in high resolution mode. ** Tags added: ati grub initramfs maverick nvidia plymouth -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
This bug report is about the aesthetic difference when running on proprietary video drivers. If you have encountered a *usability* problem when running with such a proprietary driver, please file a separate bug report for that; the prompts should work the same regardless of the display resolution. ** Tags removed: amd64 ati grub initramfs nvidia plymouth -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 Title: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
The fix posted by Mauricio Parra Casado worked on my ATI laptop (Maverick.) Unfortunately my screen's native resolution wasn't available, but at 1024x768, it's still a lot better than before. I'd like to say to anybody that brushes this problem aside as unimportant because the boot splash is only seen shortly, that this is about QUALITY. If a car maker were to build a car that could run forever, but sputters and runs rough for 15 seconds after being started every time from the factory, nobody would call it a quality auto. The same is true for a linux distribution. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
All the work arounds are great, glad we figured them out. However this is a bug, not a bug to work around but a bug to be fixed. Its been many months since this issue has existed. Quite frankly I think it might be best to start looking into alternate means of splash screens besides plymouth since it is unfriendly with so many video card drivers, (or rather a few drivers that so many people seem to use). On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Nathaniel Wilson dubr...@gmail.com wrote: The fix posted by Mauricio Parra Casado worked on my ATI laptop (Maverick.) Unfortunately my screen's native resolution wasn't available, but at 1024x768, it's still a lot better than before. I'd like to say to anybody that brushes this problem aside as unimportant because the boot splash is only seen shortly, that this is about QUALITY. If a car maker were to build a car that could run forever, but sputters and runs rough for 15 seconds after being started every time from the factory, nobody would call it a quality auto. The same is true for a linux distribution. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in “plymouth” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Hi Before installing the Ati driver the logo in the splashscreen was sleek; after I enabled the proprietary driver, the logo became huge and ugly. It's only a small thing, but it's a bug nevertheless. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 Package: xorg 1:7.5+5ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-21.31-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-21-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: fglrx Architecture: amd64 Date: Thu Apr 15 16:18:07 2010 DkmsStatus: fglrx, 8.723.1, 2.6.32-21-generic, x86_64: installed InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx - Beta amd64 (20100406.1) MachineType: TOSHIBA Satellite A300D ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=aaf4ab4f-381c-4427-9795-cb3b77d5ff41 ro quiet splash ProcEnviron: LANG=en_US.utf8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: xorg Symptom: display dmi.bios.date: 12/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Insyde Corp. dmi.bios.version: 1.80 dmi.board.asset.tag: No Asset Tag dmi.board.name: Portable PC dmi.board.vendor: TOSHIBA dmi.board.version: Base Board Version dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Tag dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: AMD dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnInsydeCorp.:bvr1.80:bd12/26/2008:svnTOSHIBA:pnSatelliteA300D:pvrPSAHCE-01W00LFR:rvnTOSHIBA:rnPortablePC:rvrBaseBoardVersion:cvnAMD:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.name: Satellite A300D dmi.product.version: PSAHCE-01W00LFR dmi.sys.vendor: TOSHIBA glxinfo: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory system: distro: Ubuntu codename: lucid architecture: x86_64 kernel: 2.6.32-21-generic To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/563878/+subscribe -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
The script does not work for me (NVidia Geforce 8800 GT, ubuntu 10.04). The boot menu now appears in the high resolution, after this the splash screen appears in the know ugly way. Because the boot menu is shown in the high resolution, I don't think, that it is the wrong resolution. @Mauricio: You say you use the resolution 1024x768 in your example, but I think you use 1280x1024, right? -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Here's a script that fixes it: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to- fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html (it basically uses Mauricio Parra Casado's steps above, but automatically). -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I didn't try with ATI, but with NVidia works perfectly... This is what i've done: 1- Open a terminal and type this: $ sudo su and type your password 2- Install this: # apt-get install v86d hwinfo 3- Execute the next command on the console # hwinfo --framebuffer this shows a list of supported resolutions for you computer... in this example I use 1024x768x24 (use the resolution you want while it appears on the list of above) 4- Edit the grub file # gedit /etc/default/grub Then find the next line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash and change it for the next one GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash nomodeset video=uvesafb:mode_option=1280x1024-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap And replace this one #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 with this one GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024 Save changes and close de Text Editor 5- Now edit this file by writting this in the console # gedit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and in the file that appears put this line at the end of the file: uvesafb mode_option=1280x1024-24 mtrr=3 scroll=ywrap After that, save the file, and close the editor. 6- Finally write this and hit enter # echo FRAMEBUFFER=y | sudo tee /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash Then do the same for: # update-grub2 and # update-initramfs -u That's all, reboot your computer and you should have your splash like you wanted :D If the resolution is low and ugly then probably you use a resolution not supported by your BIOS. Make sure you are using one of the listed resolutions when you execute the command: sudo hwinfo --framebuffer Hope you can get your splash, working as me :D -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
A workaround for Lucid is to uninstall every package called plymouth- theme-*. That way you have just text, which is actually the way I like it. I never understood why there is no way to monitor the boot processes in Ubuntu. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Startupmanager fix didn't work for me (lucid). No splash screen at all. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
A workaround for the ugly text bootsplash (in Maverik Meerkat) is to uninstall plymouth-theme-kubuntu-text and plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text. You will get the text messages of boot proccess, instead of the ugly text logo. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
according to the Ubuntu 10.10 Release notes, this is currently broken and only shows text :-( The logo will not display during boot when using the Nvidia proprietary driver. (653274) Well, this is also happening with the ATI proprietary driver and not only with the Nvidia proprietary driver. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
The 'startupmanager' solution solved the problem for me. I get a splash screen during bootup and shutdown. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
according to the Ubuntu 10.10 Release notes, this is currently broken and only shows text :-( The logo will not display during boot when using the Nvidia proprietary driver. (653274) -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Come on get this fixed immediately... this should work out of the box. We have year 2010. Fedora obviously got it fixed too, so why can't Ubuntu do the same? Why does this issue still persist in 10.10? Make a presentation with about and with Ubuntu and all people will vomit once they see the ugly splashscreen. You must be joking, really... I know there is script to change that, but how about integrating it out of the box? -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Same thing in ubuntu 10.10 -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
There is speculation about what uses plymouth wrong horizontal frequency, unlike a mode proprietary drivers -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Assuming you've changed the resolution in startupmanager, edit the file /etc/default/grub as root $(sudo gedit /etc/default/grub) and look for a line that says vga=xyz, e.g.: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= splash vga=795 Then remove the vga argument (so it's just splash in this example) and save. Now run sudo update-grub2 -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I tried installing startupmanager and didn't solve the problem (it didn't display any screen at all!) wonder how to restore it again. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Paul van Genderen 563...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Here's what I did (worked for me): First, I installed the package startupmanager (like so: sudo aptitude install startupmanager). It should appear in the Gnome menu under System Administration StartUp-Manager. From there, select a resolution and set colour depth to 24 bits. Enable Show boot splash and press Close. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in “plymouth” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Hi Before installing the Ati driver the logo in the splashscreen was sleek; after I enabled the proprietary driver, the logo became huge and ugly. It's only a small thing, but it's a bug nevertheless. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 Package: xorg 1:7.5+5ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-21.31-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-21-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: fglrx Architecture: amd64 Date: Thu Apr 15 16:18:07 2010 DkmsStatus: fglrx, 8.723.1, 2.6.32-21-generic, x86_64: installed InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx - Beta amd64 (20100406.1) MachineType: TOSHIBA Satellite A300D ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic root=UUID=aaf4ab4f-381c-4427-9795-cb3b77d5ff41 ro quiet splash ProcEnviron: LANG=en_US.utf8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: xorg Symptom: display dmi.bios.date: 12/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Insyde Corp. dmi.bios.version: 1.80 dmi.board.asset.tag: No Asset Tag dmi.board.name: Portable PC dmi.board.vendor: TOSHIBA dmi.board.version: Base Board Version dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Tag dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: AMD dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnInsydeCorp.:bvr1.80:bd12/26/2008:svnTOSHIBA:pnSatelliteA300D:pvrPSAHCE-01W00LFR:rvnTOSHIBA:rnPortablePC:rvrBaseBoardVersion:cvnAMD:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.name: Satellite A300D dmi.product.version: PSAHCE-01W00LFR dmi.sys.vendor: TOSHIBA glxinfo: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory system: distro: Ubuntu codename: lucid architecture: x86_64 kernel: 2.6.32-21-generic To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/563878/+subscribe -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Here's what I did (worked for me): First, I installed the package startupmanager (like so: sudo aptitude install startupmanager). It should appear in the Gnome menu under System Administration StartUp-Manager. From there, select a resolution and set colour depth to 24 bits. Enable Show boot splash and press Close. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
nVidia 9600 GT -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Same here. I have a laptop with 16:10 ratio. It has 1366x768 resolution. Also it has an ATi HD Mobility Radeon 5470. With or without proprietary drivers, It still looks like sh*t. ** Tags added: apport-collected -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I have this issue with both my home PC (nvidia MX400) and work PC (nvidia Geforce 7300). I changed from the Nouveau driver on my work PC because it is buggy. Small fonts have bits missing in them making some words unreadable. But the huge ugly Ubuntu logo with the nvidia driver is embarrassing in an office environment. its brilliant that the nvidia driver works after years of nvidia problems. It just needs this boot stuff tidying up. Maybe its just a paper cut, but I think its an important one. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Not just an nvidia issue - ATI Catalyst with open source drivers also fails to render it correctly. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
It's not a paper cut, but it *is* being worked on. See Colins mail on the ubuntu-devel mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-July/030995.html -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I am also experiencing this after installing the proprietary nvidia driver. http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml help me partially. Now splash moved to the left on 1-2 cm. ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Confirmed -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Did anyone tried the latest x-swat drivers? they worked for me with maverick as i said before. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
@madbiologist: Thanks for the link but NV50 has TODO status for TV out. Combined with this message: Please note, that each item in the matrix is either a big or a huge piece of functionality, so the matrix is updated rarely. I think this is gonna take ages. I think it would be wiser to wait for Maverick and use the proprietary driver. As this is working right now in Maverick I don't think this is a driver issue, but an issue with plymouth, so why can't this be fixed in Lucid. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I think i give up, I've tried everything and nothing works for me, btw I have a NVidia GeForce GT 130M on a HP HDX-16 1370 -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Just to let you know everything is working fine for me now i use maverick with the latest x-swat fglrx-installer and at log of and log on i have ubuntu login working perfectly he's slightly bigger then when using xorg but he's still good enaf for me he's not hugh or anything and he's sleek so why don't you give it a try? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
ubuntu logo i meant if i could i would upload pictures later my problem is that ubuntu doesn't support my v3m mobile phone so it's quite difficult to take pictures and upload them i posted a new bug about that. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
You will probably want to monitor the page at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I use the Nvidia proprietary driver to get the TV-out working. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Thanks, this is useful. If you are experiencing the same issue as bug #570879 please click the link This bug affects 13 people. Does this bug affect you? on that bug and subscribe to that bug as well so that you receive updates. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
The last report I could find about NVIDIA TV-out with the open source Nouveau driver was http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NzgzNA I did find a later report about benchmarking Fedora which briefly mentioned that Nouveau TV-out is still being worked on. Maxim - what model is your NVIDIA? -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
GeForce 8400 GS -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Same problem here. I have a Kubuntu box I don't even use because I can't stand to see that and would be embarrassed if anyone else did. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Every cloud has a silver lining - have been trying to get my better half to ditch XP on her laptop for over a year. A week ago XP had a bit of melt down and needed a reinstall - an opportunity not to be missed; I admit to telling a little white lie, something along the lines of the graphic card having failed and that Ubuntu could cope with the failure mode, but poor old XP could not ;-) - 10.04 was duly installed and the frankly ugly boot-up is explained away 'cos that's the time that the amazing Ubuntu system 'detects the graphic card fault and compensates for it'. Was this really wrong of me? By the way, now she has it, she loves it - much faster and more responsive apparently. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
@James Ronald Collings - I guess you have an Iphone too. That's fine, but personally I'm much more interested in how well it works and whether it gets the job/s done properly than how it looks, especially if it's only a temporary look. The wife of James in comment #50 seems to agree. Speaking of getting the job done, can I ask everyone why you are using the fglrx (Catalyst) driver instead of the open-source radeon driver? If you have an Evergreen series (HD5xxx) card I understand - there is no need to reply, but what about other people? -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
well personally I am using the proprietary Nvidia Driver. If I might add my two cents here, I think we all would like both sides of the coin in this ideally, that is shininess and efficiency (at least I would), and one of these sides right now is severely lacking. Possible temp fix for NVidia users until the upstream guys give a crap. (for grub 2) http://trycatch.iblogger.org/tips-n-tricks/how-to-get-plymouth-working- with-nvidia-proprietary-drivers-in-ubuntu-lucid-lynx -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
FYI, I own an old iPhone which I use as a pod but I make calls with my Nexus One. Sent from my Nexus One running Android On Jun 21, 2010 8:15 AM, madbiologist s.j.tur...@uq.net.au wrote: @James Ronald Collings - I guess you have an Iphone too. That's fine, but personally I'm much more interested in how well it works and whether it gets the job/s done properly than how it looks, especially if it's only a temporary look. The wife of James in comment #50 seems to agree. Speaking of getting the job done, can I ask everyone why you are using the fglrx (Catalyst) driver instead of the open-source radeon driver? If you have an Evergreen series (HD5xxx) card I understand - there is no need to reply, but what about other people? -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https:... -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
On 6/21/10 5:07 AM, madbiologist wrote: Speaking of getting the job done, can I ask everyone why you are using the fglrx (Catalyst) driver instead of the open-source radeon driver? If you have an Evergreen series (HD5xxx) card I understand - there is no need to reply, but what about other people? I use Google Earth a lot; for 3D the OS radeon driver is extremely slow and extremely buggy. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Just adding a +1 for experiencing this bug. Also want to reiterate earlier comments that this bug does not provide a user with a warm and fuzzy feeling during the boot sequence. Frankly, it makes this LTS release look like a beta. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I too think that lucid with all it's problems is looking like beta that is why i use maverick right now it's installer(ubiquity)is much better but it still have problems with Ubuntu splashscreen and that is that after installing fglrx there is no logo at all just a purple screen at boot only with xorg which is what i use now because there is no fglrx driver for xserver 1.8 it's working fine let's hope 10.10 final version would not have this problem with fglrx and plymouth. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Exactly, I have two Ubuntu converts among my friends also and another one who wants to try it out. I will not install Lucid on their comps because I can't explain this bug to them. I'm actually looking if another distro could be a better option in the future. Ubuntu changes too much too fast, always producing bug ridden releases. Things get better only after 4 or 5 months or so. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Same issue here. I've got 10.04 running on my HD Home Theatre PC (in fact, that I bought especially to run Lynx on). Splash was working beautifully (sort of) until I installed the nVidia proprietary drivers (essential for decent video experience etc). Now, I have the flashing cursor / big, dog-ugly splashes. I'm ordinarily OK with hacking things about to get it to work, but on this occasion I've not been able to fix this, and I've 'run out of steam' with something that I think should work out of the box. It's making Ubuntu a hard-sell to the tens of people I've converted, former Windows users who value superficial 'shiny' things and make comparisons to W7 boxes they've seen. It's a hard question for me to answer when they ask me why it doesn't look as nice as their former 9.10 installation did on boot-up. As another commenter has said, I'd rather it take a few seconds longer to boot and retain as nice a boot experience as 9.10 did. I don't want to loose my Ubuntu users on the basis of something so trivial, but that's how it works in the minds of the non tech-savvy. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Same problem here (ugly splash screen), but only with Nvidia driver. I solved it following step-by-step this guide in Italian: http://www.linuxqualityhelp.it/supporto/viewtopic.php?f=25t=5950 Now it works perfectly. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I am effected by this as well, and if I may put in my two cents as an ubuntu user, for me personally, graphics trump speed, especially with the (formerly) sleak splash. so to all who say that speed is more important that a shiny splash, and that it goes so fast it doesnt matter, as an ubuntu user, and knowing many others who feel the same way, we do like the shiny more than the speed. If i can be of any help let me know, dont know much about programming though. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Same problem here. It would be nice if this was fixed sooner rather than later. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
Well i hope they fix it till 10.04.1 would be releasd in july because to be honest i am not thrilled about reinstalling ubuntu any time soon with all this bugs still there. The plymouth problem and the fglrx not working with higer kernels and etc all the bugs i posted or replied in them. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 563878] Re: Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver
I agree with aviramof completely. This bothers so much, that I won't install this ubuntu release nor recommend it to anyone as long as this ridiculous bug exists. I can confirm it too btw. - happens after ATI driver install. This is annoying and makes bad impression, looks like a broken product. -- Ubuntu splashscreen big and ugly after installing ATI/nVidia proprietary graphics driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/563878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
