[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2008-07-12 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Closing regarding no one answered to the latest comments. Please reopen
if this is still an issue.

Thanks again

** Changed in: libqalculate (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Fix Released

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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2008-06-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
This bug has been reported a while ago and there hasn't been any
activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue ? Are
the correct translations part of latest Ubuntu release?

The Ubuntu Changelog shows that version 0.9.6 has been merged on Nov. 2007. 
This version includes the following changes from upstream:
2006-12-16 Niklas Knutsson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* New French translation (Nicolas Laug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
2006-11-18 Niklas Knutsson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Update Swedish translation
2006-11-07 Niklas Knutsson  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Update Dutch translation (Jaap Woldringh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

Thanks in advance.

** Changed in: libqalculate (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2007-08-30 Thread Jaap Woldringh
I am satisfied that I seem to have thrown a stone in the pond and that this bug 
is not the result of people unwilling to respect a translation (and the 
translator!). Данило Шеган even says it is a critical bug, and it is. It can 
drive people away from Ubuntu. Niklas says it is a problem in Ubuntu, NOT in 
Debian, so the problem must be somewhere in the process of building the Ubuntu 
packages. From personal experience (I translated some more) this problem does 
occur in other packages also, such as kst (very very "obsolete" translators 
credited), and gcalctool, which was translated again by me and committed for me 
some time ago by Wouter Bolsterlee (I am not a member of the Dutch translation 
team for Ubuntu). With no apparent result in the tribals of Gutsy so far.
I was even considering switching to OpenSUSE or Fedora, but love Kubuntu too 
much for now to do this. And I see that my complaint is taken very seriously, 
for which I thank you very much.

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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2007-08-24 Thread Данило Шеган
(I am going to go a bit off-topic, excuse me for that)

@Tino: the upload seems to have gone OK from my testing:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/107737/comments/12

Also, if you ever encounter a problem like the one you had with Feisty,
be sure to file a bug as soon as you notice it, and preferably even mark
it 'Critical'. It's way easier to debug problems as soon as they happen,
because data in DB changes over time.

Also, it's basically impossible for us to revert to old active Launchpad
translations, since we don't keep that data in the database. If it
happens, it's indeed a bug, and we want to know about it. Thanks.



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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2007-08-16 Thread Jan Claeys
There was a bug that caused translations to get lost during the Edgy
development cycle, but they said it was fixed during the Feisty cycle...
(And you are the first to say that this is still happening.)

Maybe the problem is that you are also upstream and Launchpad gets
confused by that?  Or it could have something to do with the files that
you upload; are they based on a .po that you downloaded first?

Let's see if there is a known bug about this...

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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2007-08-13 Thread Tino Meinen
Jan Claeys, it's not only that Launchpad translations take priority, Older 
Launchpad translations seem to take priority over newer Launchpad translations 
as well.
I've experienced this in the coreutils package. I've meticulously corrected the 
ubuntu package with the translations from upstream during the feisty beta 
period. It was perfect for a short time. Just before the release of feisty, my 
ubuntu launchpad translations for ubuntu feisty were overwritten with the old 
launchpad versions. All my work was lost.

I've repeated the proces for the ubuntu package of coreutils in the
gutsy beta (tribe). I've uploaded the correct translations three weeks
ago. I just checked and the coreutils translation for gutsy is back to
the faulty version of 2007-04-13.

I'll redo the gutsy translation for coreutils in launchpad again in a
couple of days, but I'll bet my ass that they'll be reset to the old
translation just before release of the next tribe, again.

Tino

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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2007-08-13 Thread Jordan Mantha
Umm, libqalculate is a Universe package and as far as I know has never
been translated in Launchpad. We don't use the language packs in
Universe. This package is straight from Debian, we didn't modify
anything. All we did was rebuild it on an Ubuntu infrastructure. I guess
something must have gone wrong somewhere along the line.

Wouter, please keep in mind that we are all contributing our time as
well. We can't always get to everything and we can't always chase down
every problem. In this case I don't know what we're supposed to update
to. We have the latest package from Debian.

As Ming said, if you have any ideas as to why some bits of the
translations are getting lost in building we'd be glad to help get the
fix uploaded.

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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2007-08-13 Thread Jan Claeys
And like was said a thousand times before: almost all of those issues
date back to when everybody could make translations in launchpad without
any access control, and the fact that launchpad translations take
priority over upstream translations.

This has nothing to do with frequent updates (actually, all those recent
translations are in the Rosetta database, there is just no easy way to
access them).

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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2007-08-13 Thread Wouter Bolsterlee \(uws\)
I've said this like a thousand times before: UBUNTU NEEDS TO UPDATE TO
UPSTREAM TRANSLATIONS VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY OFTEN. These Ubuntu
issues are extremely annoying and make me feel worthless. I contribute
LOTS, and I mean LOTS of my valueable free time to open source
development and translations, and it's kinda sad to see your work gone
lost because of Ubuntu stupidity. Please. Fix. This.

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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2007-08-13 Thread Ming Hua
This package hasn't changed since September 2006.  So whatever problem
it has then, it still have it now.

If someone can figure out why the Ubuntu package building process lost
the translations, I'm willing to help fixing it.  Meanwhile I don't have
time to investigate myself.

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[Bug 72226] Re: All translations from the source not included

2007-08-13 Thread Jaap Woldringh
In the latest tribe (4) of Gutsy this problem still exists. As the Dutch 
translator I must say that it is no pleasure to find that one's translations in 
(K)Ubuntu are not taken seriously.
It's not only in Qalculate! that this happens, this happens in other programs 
that I translated too, such as Gcalctool and kst, for which I also filed bug 
reports a while ago.

I hope that something will be done about this, a problem that seems only
to exist in the Ubuntu family of distributions.

The original poster of this bug posted this about 9 months ago ...

Maybe the final Gutsy will be OK. I hope so, as translating this way is
no joy.

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