Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes

2009-07-16 Thread mac_v
Cory K. wrote:
 
 I'd like others to throw up ideas to be used for our icons. I'll start a
 page soon to collect them.
 
 * One idea: http://dlanham.com/art/somadocs/preview.png
 
 
 I like the idea of the colored bottom portion where we can add the
 extension. (note: i am not content to do the freedesktop thing and have
 1 icon represent a whole family of icons)
 
 
 -Cory K.
 

I tried out something similar.
Did two versions color on top and on the bottom.

Does it fit breathe?

cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes

2009-07-16 Thread mac_v
Conn wrote:
 I like the idea of the colored bottom portion where we can add the
 extension. (note: i am not content to do the freedesktop thing and have
 1 icon represent a whole family of icons)
 
 You mean that you want separate PSD, PNG, and JPG icons instead of one
 IMAGE icon, for example? Sounds good. What you may want to consider,
 however, is to keep the icons of these families related in
 representation. For example, make the JPG and PNG icons identical
 except for the colouring of the icon (or very small tweaks to the
 image at most).
 
 Conn
 

Too many colors will only end up , as a non-indicator of what the icon
really represents.

Wouldnt it be better , if all the image files[png,jpg,svg] / all video
files had the *same bottom color* and only the images within them had
different colors? and labeled in the larger icon sizes.

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[ubuntu-art] New Wave User Requests

2009-07-16 Thread Anton Kerezov
Hello everybody,


This thread is about telling me what you would like to have
changed/added in New Wave so that it better fits your needs. Fell free
to express everything.

Not everything that is requested thought will be included because first
I'll have to make sure it will be of benefit to everybody else using the
theme. So here is a list of things that are already changed and will
make it in 0.8.1:

 - Combobox fix in Open Office and other apps that use the old format
option-box.
 - Brasero notifications fix.
 - Scrollbars inside OO and FF are much better looking and integrating.
 - Metacity improvements for dialog windows (bottom line in titlebar and
modal dialogs look different). unfortunately these additions do not show
when you use compiz. 



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[ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast

2009-07-16 Thread dani
 
I saw that all of Breathe icons are not coordinated palette and in
general are very different. well as the folder icons are too saturated.

You can see sets of many icons such as humanity or gnome-colors, which
despite having a different style, are pleasant and Swabian. 

we need to fix this in Breathe i think.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes

2009-07-16 Thread spg76
To decide about colors and labels I made some samples based on Conn and
mac_v suggestions.
http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/mime_colors.png
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes

2009-07-16 Thread mac_v
spg76 wrote:
 To decide about colors and labels I made some samples based on Conn and
 mac_v suggestions.
 http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/mime_colors.png
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I like 2nd version.
But we could loose the letters in the 24px  16px. as they are not
legible anyway.

The problem with 3rd is there are too many mime types and not enough
colors to make the easily differentiable.. ;)

Whereas with 2nd we could use any color for the icon in the image.

BTW , Nice work on the bottom color gradient .

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes

2009-07-16 Thread Cory K.
spg76 wrote:
 To decide about colors and labels I made some samples based on Conn and
 mac_v suggestions.
 http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/mime_colors.png
   

We could do something like the WAV icon in #2.  Where the design is
the same for the mimes but the text changes.

And I agree with mac_v that we should drop the text (and maybe the lower
strip) below 24px. Maybe just center the glyph. Or even just lose the
paper entirely @16px?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Palette and contrast

2009-07-16 Thread Cory K.
dani wrote:
 I saw that all of Breathe icons are not coordinated palette and in
 general are very different.

We gave guidelines in the template but some have not followed this.

 well as the folder icons are too saturated.
   

Yeah kinda.

 You can see sets of many icons such as humanity or gnome-colors, which
 despite having a different style, are pleasant and Swabian.
   

meh :P

 we need to fix this in Breathe i think.
   

This is why we need a coordinated review. It will happen soon.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes

2009-07-16 Thread spg76
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote:

 We could do something like the WAV icon in #2.  Where the design is
 the same for the mimes but the text changes.


I made some other samples and render the icons to show you how it looks in
Nautilus.
http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/mime_colors2.png

And I agree with mac_v that we should drop the text (and maybe the lower
 strip) below 24px. Maybe just center the glyph.


Yeah, this is why I like mac_v's idea. Because we can remove the strip and
the text and still recognize the icon for the color.

Or even just lose the paper entirely @16px?


I though about this but, although it give us more space for details, I don't
know if it's such a good idea.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes

2009-07-16 Thread Cory K.
spg76 wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 We could do something like the WAV icon in #2.  Where the design is
 the same for the mimes but the text changes.

 

 I made some other samples and render the icons to show you how it looks in
 Nautilus.
 http://files.getdropbox.com/u/113489/mime_colors2.png
   

I think we're on the right track but we have to somehow balance the
detail level of the glyphs. ie: the video vs. the audio glyph.

 And I agree with mac_v that we should drop the text (and maybe the lower 
 strip) below 24px. Maybe just center the glyph.
 


 Yeah, this is why I like mac_v's idea. Because we can remove the strip and
 the text and still recognize the icon for the color.

   
 Or even just lose the paper entirely @16px?
 

 I though about this but, although it give us more space for details, I don't
 know if it's such a good idea.
   

I'd like to try it. See how it works out.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu metal case badges

2009-07-16 Thread Nitesh Mistry
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:20 PM, ankur mishra ankurwidgui...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi Folks!
 I want a few Ubuntu Metal Case Badges. Anybody knows where to get these? Or
 anybody who has these and would like to share/sell? I would not be able to
 put any international orders, so, please give me domestic solutions, if any.



I myself wanted a few, but the only option to get it ready-made is to buy it
from a US company.
The other option that I have not explored yet is to get the artwork form
internet and get it printed from a local printer. If some does locate a
local printer/vendor, we can give a bulk order for personal use as well as
for distribution.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu metal case badges

2009-07-16 Thread ಮಲ್ಲಿಕಾರ್ಜುನ್
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Nitesh Mistry mistrynit...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:20 PM, ankur mishra ankurwidgui...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi Folks!
 I want a few Ubuntu Metal Case Badges. Anybody knows where to get these?
 Or anybody who has these and would like to share/sell? I would not be
 able to put any international orders, so, please give me domestic solutions,
 if any.


There is a website called www.myntra.com which can provide customized things
like t-shirts, calenders, and many accessories with custom prints on it, so
you can try there if they agree to your deal.


 I myself wanted a few, but the only option to get it ready-made is to buy
 it from a US company.
 The other option that I have not explored yet is to get the artwork form
 internet and get it printed from a local printer. If some does locate a
 local printer/vendor, we can give a bulk order for personal use as well as
 for distribution.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu metal case badges

2009-07-16 Thread Aanjhan R
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Nitesh Mistrymistrynit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I myself wanted a few, but the only option to get it ready-made is to buy it
 from a US company.

I remember some GNOME folks printing such badges for a very economical
cost in Pune.  Will try to get the details and ping back.

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[ubuntu-in] This Connection is Untrusted (tourble with Firefox)

2009-07-16 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi


Am facing some trouble with firefox - on some sites that require secure
connections - like ticket bookings, passport sites etc.

The problem is when i click on some links
i get this message (below between the ***)


*This Connection is Untrusted*
*You have asked Firefox to connect
securely to passport.gov.in, but we can't confirm that your connection is
secure.

Normally, when you try to connect securely,
sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are
going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.


If you usually connect to
this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is
trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue.

   *Technical Details*

 passport.gov.in uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate has expired.

(Error code: sec_error_expired_issuer_certificate)
*
***
am using firefox 3.5 in Ubuntu. I downloaded the firefox tar.gz and
extracted it and copied the extracted folder to /home/user/.mozilla/

and made links to the firefox shell script there.

am wondering if this error has anything to do with Firefox 3.5 and the fact
that its not updated on 9.04 via the normal update routes

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[ubuntu-in] How efficient are we while on Ubuntu

2009-07-16 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi

Posted a poll on ubuntu forums

am really curious to know how much time we Ubuntu folk spend on getting our
system up and running

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214950

so those who are members of the forum - it would be good to get your inputs

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Re: [ubuntu-in] This Connection is Untrusted (tourble with Firefox)

2009-07-16 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:20:01 +0530
Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 
 
 Am facing some trouble with firefox - on some sites that require
 secure connections - like ticket bookings, passport sites etc.
 
 The problem is when i click on some links
 i get this message (below between the ***)
[...]

The real answer to this is: (a) What kind of transaction are you
doing with the site, and (b) How paranoid you are.

This is a security feature of Firefox that shows problems with
website security certificates. If you are not doing a financial
transaction, or dealing with sensitive data, it is probably OK
to go ahead and click through to make a security exception in
Firefox for the site in question. This will normally need to be
done only once per site. The problem with this Firefox feature is
that it also catches self-signed certificates, which causes problems
for many FOSS-related sites (including http://www.sarai.net). It is
also arguable that CA-signed certificates do not really add that
much more trust.

In this particular case, passport.gov.in, you should probably not
make an exception, and instead complain loudly to the site
maintainer. It is ridiculous that they cannot be bothered to keep
their site certificates up to date. So much for the people who are
pushing the much-vaunted National ID card.

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] On peut faire des backups avec GParted? (Gilbert Dion)

2009-07-16 Thread Gilbert Dion
Je crois que voilà un excellent outil. J'adopte. Merci!

Le Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:25:35 -0400, Mario Lemelin  
mario.leme...@cgocable.ca a écrit:

 Pour ma part, je fais mes sauvegardes avec Clonezilla (un équivalent en  
 meilleur de Ghost sous Windows)




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[Ubuntu-QC] Collé au kernel 2.6.28-11-generic

2009-07-16 Thread Gilbert Dion
Mon desktop et mon netbook sont passés, il y a quelque temps, au nouveau  
kernel, 2.6.28-13-generic. Or le portable sur lequel j'écris présentement  
est resté à la version 2.6.28-11. Ce portable est en dual boot, l'autre  
système étant Mint, basé sur Ubuntu. Et c'est pareil. Mint est resté à  
2.6.28.11. C'est donc la machine? Qu'est-ce qu'elle a, cette machine?

C'est un Acer Aspire 5050, dont j'ai joint un rapport de configuration. Y  
a-t-il là quelque raison pour ne pas avoir eu de mise à niveau du kernel?

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[Ubuntu-QC] Collé au kernel 2.6.28-11-generi c + fichier joint

2009-07-16 Thread Gilbert Dion
Comme souvent, j'ai oublié de joindre le document annoncé dans le mail
précédent. Le voici.
Gilbert Dion
gilbertdion.com
Title: HardInfo (0.4.2.3) System Report


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[ubuntu-uk] evolution and gnome

2009-07-16 Thread Jamie Bennett
 On 15 Jul 2009, at 20:20, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

 On 15/07/09 20:01, Jamie Bennett wrote:
 On 15 Jul 2009, at 18:13, Alan Pope wrote:
 Oh well, i guess i will have to keep evolution installed.


 Or remove it and ubuntu-desktop and then reinstall them before you
 upgrade.

 Surely there is a bug to file here (or one that is already filed?)?
 Removing Evolution shouldn't remove ubuntu-desktop.
 See the date picket up in the top right of your *Gnome* desktop  
 panel?

 That ties to your Evolution calendar, as do other apps which I am not
 familiar with.

 Surely this can just instigate a reinstall of the 'date-picker' with  
 the required build options and anything else that relies on evolution.

 Saying its essential to the ubuntu desktop is like saying IE is  
 essential to Windows, which we all know is a lie.

 Al

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] printing/scanning

2009-07-16 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/7/15 Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org:
 I would be grateful if I could have some help in trying to identify a
 problem which has just recently appeared. When I send a scanned document
 to the printer all the lines are no longer solid but are made up from
 lots of what appear to be small 'dots' or 'back slashes'. It does not
 appear to be a scanner fault as the same document scanned to the screen
 is normal. The scanner is an old Canon Lide 20 and I use Ubuntu 9.04.

 This peculiar printing does not happen when documents are sent from
 OpenOffice, for example.

 Norman


It might be that you're scanning in colour and sending to a bw printer.

Either the printer or (more likely) the scanner is dithering the
picture, and it's probably down to the settings you are using to scan
the image. I saw this about 12 months ago using XSane and an HP
scanner. Can't remember the setting I changed, I can have a look later
if you get stuck.

Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] printing/scanning

2009-07-16 Thread Norman Silverstone

  I would be grateful if I could have some help in trying to identify a
  problem which has just recently appeared. When I send a scanned document
  to the printer all the lines are no longer solid but are made up from
  lots of what appear to be small 'dots' or 'back slashes'. It does not
  appear to be a scanner fault as the same document scanned to the screen
  is normal. The scanner is an old Canon Lide 20 and I use Ubuntu 9.04.
 
  This peculiar printing does not happen when documents are sent from
  OpenOffice, for example.
 

 It might be that you're scanning in colour and sending to a bw printer.
 
 Either the printer or (more likely) the scanner is dithering the
 picture, and it's probably down to the settings you are using to scan
 the image. I saw this about 12 months ago using XSane and an HP
 scanner. Can't remember the setting I changed, I can have a look later
 if you get stuck.

Thanks for the suggestion and I will go back and check the settings
which, as far as I know, have not been changed for several years.

I have now had the chance to try another scanner and exactly the same
thing happens. So, it begins to look as though something has changed in
the software responsible for converting the signal from the scanner to
the printer. What would be a good way to try to find the culprit?

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] banshee podcast wont subscribe

2009-07-16 Thread Alan Pope
2009/7/16 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 I subscribed to a podcast from the bbc websitei then accidently moved the 
 podcasts to my music library.
 i have deleted them from the music lib section in banshee but now cant 
 subscribe to them again...i can subscribe to others just fine though.

Can't in what way? What happens? Do you get an error message?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

2009-07-16 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/7/15 John Matthews jake...@sky.com:
 Hi, thank you for your message. So as I understand it then, if I have a
 folder on the desktop called title, that is called a directory then yes?
 I wanted to copy that folder to the home directory.

 So what is the difference between scp and cp ~r

Others have explained the difference between the commands, but I just
wanted to point something out that may cause more confusion. It might
just be a typo, but you used a ~ (tilde) in your question, where Sean
used a - (minus or hyphen).

Using a hyphen marks the next group of characters as an option to
change the behaviour of the command you are using. Using a tilde
refers to a user's home directory, and you'll get some strange error
messages!

You can also use the -r option on the scp command to copy a directory
and its contents.

 I really am not getting it, its very confusing. This page is showing two
 different ways of copying. I am more confused now.

 I need to find a night school, so I can get somebody to show me, this is
 just not working.

A LUG would also help, and is probably free (as in cost) too!

This is the sort of situation where it will take about 10 weeks by
email/mailing list to tell you as much about the command line as can
be demonstrated in 10 minutes with two people at one PC!

LUGs are friendly and most welcome new members, so it's definitely
worth looking for one near you.

 I have never felt so frustrated in all my life as I have since trying to
 learn Linux. I used to be an Intensive Care nurse, and I never found it
 as hard as this. It was intense, but not as hard to work out what to do.

You were probably in the same room as the person who trained you to be
an Intensive Care nurse. The fact that you're not in the same room as
us lot trying to teach you how to use the command line makes a big
difference.

Don't give up!

Cofion/Regards,
Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] printing/scanning

2009-07-16 Thread Norman Silverstone
 snip 
 
  It might be that you're scanning in colour and sending to a bw printer.
  
  Either the printer or (more likely) the scanner is dithering the
  picture, and it's probably down to the settings you are using to scan
  the image. I saw this about 12 months ago using XSane and an HP
  scanner. Can't remember the setting I changed, I can have a look later
  if you get stuck.
 
 Thanks for the suggestion and I will go back and check the settings
 which, as far as I know, have not been changed for several years.
 
 I have now had the chance to try another scanner and exactly the same
 thing happens. So, it begins to look as though something has changed in
 the software responsible for converting the signal from the scanner to
 the printer. What would be a good way to try to find the culprit?
 
To get some more evidence, I scanned a document via Gimp and printed
from there and the same thing happens, pale and broken lines. However,
when I print from Gimp via TurboPrint the text is much darker and not
broken although, the individual lines appear to be somewhat thicker than
the original.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] banshee podcast wont subscribe

2009-07-16 Thread javadayaz
nothing happens. As in nothing at all. Apparently it is a documented
problem.

I have also raised it on the banshee forums.

Just raised it here...in case anyone knew what to fo here!

2009/7/16 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/7/16 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  I subscribed to a podcast from the bbc websitei then accidently moved
 the podcasts to my music library.
  i have deleted them from the music lib section in banshee but now cant
 subscribe to them again...i can subscribe to others just fine though.

 Can't in what way? What happens? Do you get an error message?

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

2009-07-16 Thread Sean Miller
This may be of help...

http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php

Sean

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[ubuntu-uk] Two mags with Linux on cover (and CD)

2009-07-16 Thread Dianne Reuby
I saw today that Micro Mart and Computer Active both feature Linux on
the front cover, seemed aimed at beginners or those who haven't tried it
before. Computer Active had Ubuntu 9.04 and another distro on the CD.

Dianne


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two mags with Linux on cover (and CD)

2009-07-16 Thread Alan Pope
2009/7/16 Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk:
 I saw today that Micro Mart and Computer Active both feature Linux on
 the front cover, seemed aimed at beginners or those who haven't tried it
 before. Computer Active had Ubuntu 9.04 and another distro on the CD.


There is special Computer Active in the shops focussing on Linux.
Open the cover, and it's wall to wall Ubuntu screenshots :)

Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread doug livesey
Hi -- just sharing a couple of thoughts, really, as an Ubuntu user of 6
months or so.
The first is, for myself, I *love* using linux, and am very happy I made the
switch to Ubuntu.
That said, I am a programmer, and a geek, and so am getting the most benefit
from the tools that linux users have long taken for granted, from EMACS, to
gcc, to everything being developed for linux as a first, and therefore a
first-class, platform.
So that's great.
However, I have found that Ubuntu has fallen rather short in a couple of
areas that mean that I would not recommend it to an average user (as I have
earlier this year, to mine  their chagrin) who would use it as a 'leisure'
OS.

One is: setup. It's an impossible task to write drivers that will work on
any amount of machines, particularly when the manufacturors of those
machines don't give a fig about you, so I'm not having a do at any of the
amazing developers here, but the issues I had/have with sound cards 
keyboards, and that I've had/have with other machines with sound  wireless
connections, mean that I could not recommend Ubuntu to an 'average' user --
I would *have* to be on-hand and prepared to sacrifice some serious support
time to compliment my recommendation if I did.

Another is video and sound (in general): I find that the quality of playback
for both audio and video (but esp. video) to be significantly lower than on
OSX (on the same machine) and Vista. The screen flickers and has refresh
breaks in the middle of the screen, and on a lower-end machine, jumped
intolerably for the majority of files. I've found some embedded video files
like those embedded from youtube to be of an unwatchable quality in Ubuntu,
with black squares flickering in the middle of the screen. Again, I imagine
the task facing those who write drivers for *all* variants of machine to
use, and am awed -- but this would still bug the average user.

Another is supported proprietary software, which just isn't Ubuntu's fault
(as I don't think the others are, tbh). The biggie being iTunes, which you
need for an iPhone, and everybody  their dog seems to want one of those.
There's no way for an 'average' user to easily get up  running with it in
an emulator or dual-boot or whatever.
Another would be games, I imagine, but I don't really play those.

All of this, like I say, isn't a whinge, it's just some observations. For me
(as a geek), I'm delighted with Ubuntu, and know that I will continue with
it ( maybe other variants of linux) for the forseeable future, as it has an
amazing set of tools  repositories that make my life as a geek much
happier, and I love the free software philosophy. And I could happily
recommend it for office users, too.
But, for me, it still isn't something I'd recommend to the average, leisure
user, unless they really expressed an interest in learning all about it --
even I haven't been able to fully put away OSX for media stuff.
Please bear in mind that Ubuntu is the only variant of linux that I've spent
any real time with, and that my experience of using it as a lesiure OS is
limited to a couple of machines (Asus Aspire  Macbook) -- I've used many
more at work *for* work  have nothing but joy to report.

Anyway, I hope this message is taken in the spirit it is offered -- not as a
flame or whinge, but as some (hopefully) constructive observations on an OS
I've really come to love.
What do others think? Is it something they would recommend to non-geeks as a
swap in for OSX, or Windows?
Cheers,
   Doug.
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[ubuntu-uk] Fwd: FOSDEM X: 6+7 February 2010

2009-07-16 Thread Tim Dobson
If you've never been to FOSDEM, I sincerely recommend attending.

I'm very glad I went to it this year and will certainly be attending for
FOSDEM's 10th birthday!

It is a fantastic event, insightful, interesting, fun and incredibly
welcoming. :D

Tim

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Subject: [FOSDEM] FOSDEM X: 6+7 February 2010
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:32:02 +0200
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benevolent host (the ULB), we are able to already announce the date of
the upcoming FOSDEM, which will be held on the weekend of the 6 and 7
February 2010 in Brussels (at ULB's Solbosch campus, as usual).

This will also be its 10th anniversary (we include the first edition
that was still called OSDEM ;)).

The timeline for submitting developer room and stand requests will be
communicated soon.

cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Weaver
It been about 3 months since I switched the machines from XP to ubuntu here
in the radio station I work at. I have asked the 30+ volunteers earlier
today, what they like and dislike about Ubuntu so we'll see how they
compare.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Rob Beard
Chris Weaver wrote:
 It been about 3 months since I switched the machines from XP to ubuntu 
 here in the radio station I work at. I have asked the 30+ volunteers 
 earlier today, what they like and dislike about Ubuntu so we'll see 
 how they compare.

 - Chris Weaver
Oh I really do envy you.  I'm battling with short sighted managers who 
don't seem to know what they're doing.  For the two radio stations I'm 
providing IT to, I am supposed to be the sole IT bod and well they just 
keep going over my head and it's really frustrating.  It's like banging 
my head against a brick wall because they won't invest in the IT and 
don't like change.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Sean Miller
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:58 PM, doug liveseybiot...@gmail.com wrote:
 amazing developers here, but the issues I had/have with sound cards 
 keyboards, and that I've had/have with other machines with sound  wireless
 connections, mean that I could not recommend Ubuntu to an 'average' user --

You've had issues with keyboards?   Never heard of that one before...
what type of keyboard?  And what was the issue?

 Another is video and sound (in general): I find that the quality of playback
 for both audio and video (but esp. video) to be significantly lower than on
 OSX (on the same machine) and Vista. The screen flickers and has refresh
 breaks in the middle of the screen, and on a lower-end machine, jumped
 intolerably for the majority of files. I've found some embedded video files
 like those embedded from youtube to be of an unwatchable quality in Ubuntu,
 with black squares flickering in the middle of the screen. Again, I imagine
 the task facing those who write drivers for *all* variants of machine to
 use, and am awed -- but this would still bug the average user.

Are you using proprietary Flash plug-in or the open one?  Might be
worth trying the other...

 Another is supported proprietary software, which just isn't Ubuntu's fault
 (as I don't think the others are, tbh). The biggie being iTunes, which you
 need for an iPhone, and everybody  their dog seems to want one of those.

Ah, but if more people started using Linux then Apple might consider
it a good idea to port their software... it's a supply  demand
thing...  ;-)

 There's no way for an 'average' user to easily get up  running with it in
 an emulator or dual-boot or whatever.

Why?

And have you proven iTunes doesn't work?

This article seems to suggest otherwise...
http://www.huanix.com/2008/11/12/itunes-8-running-in-wine-recognizes-ipod/

 What do others think? Is it something they would recommend to non-geeks as a
 swap in for OSX, or Windows?

Non-geeks, probably... complete novices in the Outer Hebrides with
loads of local friends using Windows I'd probably not, as it's useful
for them to have a support network around them to wander around their
house and offer advice to them in person.

Same issue as that John fella, with his difficulties understanding
shell.  As there are currently more people using Windows by Linux (by
quite some way) then those who need friends to come around to help
would probably be better with Windows.

But I'd probably suggest Linux to those people over OS-X, because
their Windows mates might be able to figure out how to use Linux as it
is similar (and the majority of the key combinations (eg.
ctrl-alt-delete)) are the same whereas OS-X has a completely different
methodology altogether.

Sean

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread doug livesey
You've had issues with keyboards?   Never heard of that one before...
 what type of keyboard?  And what was the issue?

The machine I set up for someone else, I set up using my preferred layout
(Dvorák), and then set it to normal ASCII, but it keeps reverting. No big
deal, but annoying, especially to a novice.

 Are you using proprietary Flash plug-in or the open one?  Might be
 worth trying the other...

I'll look into that, cheers.

 Ah, but if more people started using Linux then Apple might consider
 it a good idea to port their software... it's a supply  demand
 thing...  ;-)

Yeah, but if you're setting up a system for someone who trusts you to do the
best job you can for them, until that supply  demand thing is settled, is
it really ethical to stick them with being a statistical martyr to the
cause? The iPhone requirement came after I'd set the system up, but still
something like that should perhaps have been anticipated.

 And have you proven iTunes doesn't work?

I've looked at a fair few places to get iTunes working on Ubuntu, and all of
the ones I saw seem to say it won't (under WINE or anything else). I'll look
at the link you've provided (cheers again), but I'm not holding out much
hope (from past experience), and even less for getting it working to update
an iPhone. As for *proving* it can't work, I'm afraid I'm not nearly enough
of an expert to begin to exhaustively set about that task! Besides, you
can't prove a negative, you can only *dis*prove it. ;)

 But I'd probably suggest Linux to those people over OS-X, because
 their Windows mates might be able to figure out how to use Linux as it
 is similar (and the majority of the key combinations (eg.
 ctrl-alt-delete)) are the same whereas OS-X has a completely different
 methodology altogether.

I wouldn't have expected that! I must admit that I'm very fond of OSX  the
way it works, so much so that I can bear to work in it from time to time
when I can't in linux. And it was OSX (being built on Darwin) that got me
into trying out linux.
For a newb, as well, my experience has been that OSX is *miles* more
intuitive than any other OS, so that people don't really *need* their mates
to come around -- it just does what they expect intuitively --
human-oriented software!
Again, I must declaim that my experience of seeing newbs on various systems
is limited to my own trials  observing a few others, but in that
experience, OSX definately seems to be the one that people can take to with
most confidence.
So I guess I'm the opposite! ;) I'd recommend OSX to any 'average' user with
a budget, Ubuntu to anyone with any technical bent, and Windoze to anyone
with little cash who just wanted basic stuff (web, video, audio, wireless)
to work  didn't know how to get it to if it didn't.
Although maybe I'd recuse myself before that last recommendation. ;)
Cheers for the considered response,
   Doug.

PS -- the system I setup was for someone who lives in a different country,
just in case anyone's thinking that maybe I should just get 'round there 
fix it. :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread John Matthews


 Same issue as that John fella, with his difficulties understanding
 shell.  As there are currently more people using Windows by Linux (by
 quite some way) then those who need friends to come around to help
 would probably be better with Windows.

 But I'd probably suggest Linux to those people over OS-X, because
 their Windows mates might be able to figure out how to use Linux as it
 is similar (and the majority of the key combinations (eg.
 ctrl-alt-delete)) are the same whereas OS-X has a completely different
 methodology altogether.

 Sean

   
I have to say that I have always wanted to use Linux, Ubuntu in 
particular, since I saw a friend using it. It took me a long time to 
pluck up the courage to try a partition, then I discovered Wubi, that 
opened it up for me.

I have to agree with Doug, and add Linux is more for somebody who is 
proficient in programming, and is more for those who are used to 
computers in general.

People do want a work out of the box machine, and Ubuntu isnt totally 
out of the box, it does need other bits and pieces added, and unless you 
know that, it doesnt work how most people are used to having a machine 
work. Unless you spend a lot of time reading through the pages and pages 
of the Ubuntu wiki, you wouldnt know that there are extra repositories 
that you need, to get certain things that you have already installed on 
a Windows machine. I went for months before I got shown about medibuntu. 
The forum helps in some respects but you get told on there, read the 
wiki, or plough through searches on the forum, and then come back and 
ask, if you cant get it to work.

I wanted to try get connected apart from my network at home through 
wireless, you cannot do that without knowing how to use the terminal, 
dongles from any of the main mobile carriers, wont work, just by 
plugging it in, so no wireless outside of the house. I had to get told 
about Bluetooth and Joiku spot, but Joiku spot wouldnt work with my 8.04 
version, but it does now.

Each upgrade, could essentially cause the computer not to work. I went 
from partitioning on 8.04 working to upgrading to 8.10, and not working. 
My only visit to the London Lug and two people working on the machine 
couldnt get it to work, froze the minute it got to the log in screen, 
uninstalled the installed from a different cd, not a chance, then 9.10 
came along, and it works again, but without a lot of the desktop extras. 
Its the graphics card its not good enough. I have to thank Michael 
Fletcher for spending quite a lot of time on the phone and pc to pc 
working with it to get it to work. Same with adding Ubuntu onto my 
netbook, it came with Linux lite, that took a while, and a lot of work 
to get it how it is now. Thanks to Michael again.

There is something to Ubuntu not being a contender like Windows and Mac, 
so many people take their Linux machines back, because they cant get it 
to connect to their internet connection, and that is before you even 
start with everything else. When I got my little netbook from the shop, 
they warned me, you do realise it most likely wont work, keep the 
receipt. This particular shop no longer stocks this netbook with Linux, 
because they had so many bought back.

Plus, my experience in learning the shell script. I really do want to 
learn it, and its been causing me so much frustration.

That is my experience so far with Linux, but I'm still here, trying, 
'very trying' some would say, lol.

I wish I was doing this at school age, would probably be a lot easier.

This is also not a winge, its my experience as a novice.

John

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Rob Beard
John Matthews wrote:
 People do want a work out of the box machine, and Ubuntu isnt totally 
 out of the box, it does need other bits and pieces added, and unless you 
 know that, it doesnt work how most people are used to having a machine 
 work. 
snip

Actually this is a common misconception.  A default installation of 
Windows XP from an original installation CD doesn't come with much.  You 
get the OS, Internet Explorer, and one or two apps (Media Player, 
Notepad, Wordpad, Paint, Windows Messenger, Outlook Express*).  Things 
like Flash, Office etc are all added afterwards not to mention probably 
a whole load of drivers which are required.  On newer hardware you can 
also find that you may need a driver disk to detect things like hard 
drives before you get Windows installed.

* Bear in mind, Windows Messenger is out of date and has been replaced 
with Windows Live Messenger and Outlook Express doesn't work as well as 
it used to with things like Hotmail.  Great at the time but it's been 
replaced by newer apps.

I presume what you're getting at is a PC bought from a shop with Windows 
pre-installed has everything added including usually these days a trial 
version of Office 2007 which will work for about 20 times and then 
expire (yes I know, pretty lousy but this is what Microsoft do these 
days) .  This isn't a fair comparison though to just installing Ubuntu 
from a CD.  It's also a valid argument that Ubuntu comes pre-installed 
with a Media Player, Web Browser, E-Mail client, and OpenOffice.org.  
Installing Flash and extra codecs is fairly straight forward.  When you 
go to a site which requires Flash is prompts to install it, when you try 
and play a media file it prompts to install the codecs.
 Unless you spend a lot of time reading through the pages and pages 
 of the Ubuntu wiki, you wouldnt know that there are extra repositories 
 that you need, to get certain things that you have already installed on 
 a Windows machine. I went for months before I got shown about medibuntu. 
 The forum helps in some respects but you get told on there, read the 
 wiki, or plough through searches on the forum, and then come back and 
 ask, if you cant get it to work.
   
You don't need Medibuntu, you can get the codecs from the standard 
repositories.  Sure I do add repositories myself for things such as Wine 
and VirtualBox but not everyone needs to do this.  It's the same for 
Windows though, you have to download extra codecs unless all you're 
playing is MP3 and WMV/WMA media files.
 I wanted to try get connected apart from my network at home through 
 wireless, you cannot do that without knowing how to use the terminal, 
 dongles from any of the main mobile carriers, wont work, just by 
 plugging it in, so no wireless outside of the house. I had to get told 
 about Bluetooth and Joiku spot, but Joiku spot wouldnt work with my 8.04 
 version, but it does now.
   
Depends on which version of Ubuntu you have.  I have a Vodafone Pay and 
Go 3G dongle, cost about £40 from the Vodafone store.  I plugged it in 
on Ubuntu 9.04 and about 10 seconds later I was prompted for what my 
provider was from a list of pre-defined providers (which covered ALL the 
networks in the UK and others too).  Now plugging the dongle in I can 
get online in seconds (subject to reception, not a problem with Ubuntu, 
the same happens on Windows).  My dad's Three soap on a rope style modem 
also works fine.

Now on Vista, I had to install the Vodafone Mobile Connect software 
which took about a minute or two and I have to wait for it to load up 
when I plug the dongle in.

With regards to wireless, my network adaptor (Intel Wireless) was 
detected straight away and just works (tm).  The same goes for my 
Netgear USB dongle too.  I have also tried various other machines with 
different wireless chipsets and many of them just work out of the box.

Granted on Ubuntu 8.04 there isn't native support but I could argue that 
only in the last year has the dongle prices come down closer to what 
most people can afford (those Three and O2 ones are getting really cheap 
now!).
 Each upgrade, could essentially cause the computer not to work. I went 
 from partitioning on 8.04 working to upgrading to 8.10, and not working. 
 My only visit to the London Lug and two people working on the machine 
 couldnt get it to work, froze the minute it got to the log in screen, 
 uninstalled the installed from a different cd, not a chance, then 9.10 
 came along, and it works again, but without a lot of the desktop extras. 
 Its the graphics card its not good enough. I have to thank Michael 
 Fletcher for spending quite a lot of time on the phone and pc to pc 
 working with it to get it to work. Same with adding Ubuntu onto my 
 netbook, it came with Linux lite, that took a while, and a lot of work 
 to get it how it is now. Thanks to Michael again.
   
Do you mean 9.04 or 9.10 (which isn't out yet, only in Alpha?).

Granted some hardware can be poorly 

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread LeeGroups

 People do want a work out of the box machine, and Ubuntu isnt totally 
 out of the box, it does need other bits and pieces added, and unless you 
 know that, it doesnt work how most people are used to having a machine 
 work. Unless you spend a lot of time reading through the pages and pages 
 of the Ubuntu wiki, you wouldnt know that there are extra repositories 
 that you need, to get certain things that you have already installed on 
 a Windows machine. I went for months before I got shown about medibuntu. 
 The forum helps in some respects but you get told on there, read the 
 wiki, or plough through searches on the forum, and then come back and 
 ask, if you cant get it to work.

 I wanted to try get connected apart from my network at home through 
 wireless, you cannot do that without knowing how to use the terminal, 
 dongles from any of the main mobile carriers, wont work, just by 
 plugging it in, so no wireless outside of the house. I had to get told 
 about Bluetooth and Joiku spot, but Joiku spot wouldnt work with my 8.04 
 version, but it does now.

 Each upgrade, could essentially cause the computer not to work. I went 
 from partitioning on 8.04 working to upgrading to 8.10, and not working. 
 My only visit to the London Lug and two people working on the machine 
 couldnt get it to work, froze the minute it got to the log in screen, 
 uninstalled the installed from a different cd, not a chance, then 9.10 
 came along, and it works again, but without a lot of the desktop extras. 
 Its the graphics card its not good enough. I have to thank Michael 
 Fletcher for spending quite a lot of time on the phone and pc to pc 
 working with it to get it to work. Same with adding Ubuntu onto my 
 netbook, it came with Linux lite, that took a while, and a lot of work 
 to get it how it is now. Thanks to Michael again.

 There is something to Ubuntu not being a contender like Windows and Mac, 
 so many people take their Linux machines back, because they cant get it 
 to connect to their internet connection, and that is before you even 
 start with everything else. When I got my little netbook from the shop, 
 they warned me, you do realise it most likely wont work, keep the 
 receipt. This particular shop no longer stocks this netbook with Linux, 
 because they had so many bought back.

   
I see what you're saying, but to balance the viewpoint, many people 
(esp. when talking about Linux) seem to gloss over a lot of Windows 
failings.

Windows just works out of the box. Well kind of, once you've installed 
an office suite, and some antivirus, antimalware, a codec pack in case 
you're not using MS approved codecs, a pile of drivers (for your 
printer, scanner, 3G dongle, graphics tablet), a better browser and mail 
client.

Then (like my sister last week) you spend £30 on a game (Sims 3) and it 
doesn't run (keeps crashing).  The handbooks says update your drivers, 
but as Sims 3 didn't come with a driver CD (like the 
printer/scanner/graphics table) you're lost and call your bro. He digs 
out the right page on the HP website, writes large email detailing what 
to do. This doesn't work, Sims 3 still crashes. This time the unpaid 
tech support gets the drivers direct from Intel, this doesn't work 
either as the laptop is whining that the existing drivers have been 
'specially modified by the manufacturer to improve performance on this 
computer' and won't let the Intel drivers install. Another large email 
detailing uninstalling the drivers, rebooting, installing the Intel 
drivers, etc. This fixes the issue, but leaves the screen set to a 
whacky resolution, another email later, the Sims finally works.

I'd like to say this kind of thing is uncommon, but if you're 'unpaid 
tech support' you see an awful lot of it, if you're paid tech support, 
you'll see this kind of thing daily. So - 'works out of the box' I 
wouldn't exactly say it does. I've been using Windows professionally 
since V2.0 demo came out... and it hasn't exactly been bed of roses... 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Steve
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:28:23 +0100, LeeGroups mailgro...@varga.co.uk  
wrote:

Snippity Snip

 I'd like to say this kind of thing is uncommon, but if you're 'unpaid
 tech support' you see an awful lot of it, if you're paid tech support,
 you'll see this kind of thing daily. So - 'works out of the box' I
 wouldn't exactly say it does. I've been using Windows professionally
 since V2.0 demo came out... and it hasn't exactly been bed of roses...

 Lee


Just wait. October will be even more fun as people try to upgrade from  
vista to 7.  I've already told a few it's going to cost them more than the  
usual couple of pints to sort the mess out.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Daniel Drummond


 Non-geeks, probably... complete novices in the Outer Hebrides with
 loads of local friends using Windows 
Actually when I lived in the Outer Hebrides, on Lewis in particular, the 
people were quite IT literate, and in Ness, at the very north of the 
island there was a Linux Centre. 

http://www.work-global.com/news/index.php?id=49

lol, just thought that was interesting.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 7 same as Ubuntu........

2009-07-16 Thread Robert Flatters
Well i have down loaded installed Window 7 RC 7100 and at first glance yes
there seems to be a likeness to  quite a few Linux OS's and for that matter
Mac OS X as well, but i think Micro$oft have learned from their failing of
Vista.  So what i would say is to the Linux guy they better wake up cos this
thing may be out to kick ass.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:23 AM, John jake...@sky.com wrote:

 Has anybody seen this, and does anybody have Windows 7 to compare.

 I find this quite interesting though.

 http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2770tag=nl.e550

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Liam Proven
2009/7/16 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk:

 Actually this is a common misconception.  A default installation of
 Windows XP from an original installation CD doesn't come with much.  You
 get the OS, Internet Explorer, and one or two apps (Media Player,
 Notepad, Wordpad, Paint, Windows Messenger, Outlook Express*).

That's quite a lot, really. Enough to get them in trouble with the EU,
the American government being too craven to hit 'em where it hurts.

The only reason the EU version of Windows 7 will be crippled by not
having IE, WMP  a couple of other things is that MS refused the EU's
suggested solution, which is to offer the new user a choice of browser
etc. Couldn't be seen to be promoting rival products, oh no.

Of course, they *do* promote rival products - e.g. search engines in IE 7  8.

But Ubuntu does of course come with a lot more - just not the media
drivers and things most people need. But there are legal reasons for
that.


 Depends on which version of Ubuntu you have.

The 3G support only came in in 8.10. You can retro-fit it to 8.04 but
it's not trivial. Took me about 5-6h work, first time.

  I have a Vodafone Pay and
 Go 3G dongle, cost about £40 from the Vodafone store.  I plugged it in
 on Ubuntu 9.04 and about 10 seconds later I was prompted for what my
 provider was from a list of pre-defined providers (which covered ALL the
 networks in the UK and others too).  Now plugging the dongle in I can
 get online in seconds (subject to reception, not a problem with Ubuntu,
 the same happens on Windows).  My dad's Three soap on a rope style modem
 also works fine.

Yep. My Nokia Communicator did the same  Just Worked™ first time, too.

 I'm looking at starting to learn C, I've tried it in the past and got
 fed up because I couldn't do the simple things on it that I could do in
 Basic, but this time I'm going to try and persevere with it and if I get
 stuck I'll ask.

There are much better, more generally-useful options than C now.
Python would probably be your best bet. Significant chunks of Ubuntu
and Red Hat are written in Python - it's a very capable language.
(Which I'm still struggling to learn myself, but that's by the bye.)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 7 same as Ubuntu........

2009-07-16 Thread Liam Proven
2009/7/16 Robert Flatters robert.flatt...@googlemail.com:
 Well i have down loaded installed Window 7 RC 7100 and at first glance yes
 there seems to be a likeness to  quite a few Linux OS's and for that matter
 Mac OS X as well, but i think Micro$oft have learned from their failing of
 Vista.  So what i would say is to the Linux guy they better wake up cos this
 thing may be out to kick ass.

Oh, absolutely, yes.

But for all that it's shiny and pretty, and its wizards and help and
things might assist many technophobic beginners, it's big,
heavyweight, slow, and relatively expensive. It's also not
particularly secure - it's actually a step backwards compared to
Vista.

There is a chance for Linux, but it's a very tough battle ahead.
Unfortunately, I think the bad experiences of hundreds of thousands of
people with Linux netbooks will put them off for a long time to come.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread William Anderson
Steve wrote:
 [snip]

 Just wait. October will be even more fun as people try to upgrade from  
 vista to 7.  I've already told a few it's going to cost them more than the  
 usual couple of pints to sort the mess out.

From what I've heard, upgrading from Vista to 7 RC is pretty straight
forward ...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 7 same as Ubuntu........

2009-07-16 Thread Daniel Drummond
Just saw this on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_84367553_1?ie=UTF8docId=1000321063pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLEpf_rd_s=special-product-offers-3pf_rd_r=0VK1CGRWR4HF3J8C5951pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_p=470371973pf_rd_i=B002DUCMT2

[Quote]
*4. Does Windows 7 come with a Web Browser?*

Within the EU, the Windows 7 range does not contain a pre-installed 
internet browser. One option to gain access to the internet is:
• On your current computer prior to installing Windows 7, or on another 
computer system, download the install file (usually a “.exe” file) for 
your preferred Windows 7-compatible browser to your current system.
• Burn this file to a CD or DVD 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blank-Media-Computer-Peripherals-Accessories/b/ref=amb_link_84355233_14?ie=UTF8node=10391681pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLEpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r=045QGHKRV68TR1EZC7D0pf_rd_t=1401pf_rd_p=470412993pf_rd_i=1000321063
 
or transfer it to an external storage medium such as a flash memory 
drive 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=amb_link_84355233_15?ie=UTF8rh=n%3A560798%2Ck%3Aflash%20memory%20drivepf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLEpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r=045QGHKRV68TR1EZC7D0pf_rd_t=1401pf_rd_p=470412993pf_rd_i=1000321063
 
or external hard drive 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/External-Hard-Drive-Drives/b/ref=amb_link_84355233_16?ie=UTF8node=350779011pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLEpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r=045QGHKRV68TR1EZC7D0pf_rd_t=1401pf_rd_p=470412993pf_rd_i=1000321063.
 

• Install Windows 7 on your system using the instructions provided with 
your purchase.
• Once you have installed Windows 7 on your system insert the CD/DVD or 
connect the external storage device and copy the install file to your 
Windows 7 system.
• Run the install file to install your preferred web browser and access 
the internet.

These instructions are provided for your information only and you may 
wish to explore other options. Amazon accepts no responsibility for any 
problems you may encounter from following the instructions above. Be 
sure to check out Amazon’s great selection of external storage devices 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/External-Hard-Drive-Drives/b/ref=amb_link_84355233_17?ie=UTF8node=350779011pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLEpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r=045QGHKRV68TR1EZC7D0pf_rd_t=1401pf_rd_p=470412993pf_rd_i=1000321063
 
in our electronics store 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/consumer-electronics-photo-mp3-computing/b/ref=amb_link_84355233_18?ie=UTF8node=560798pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLEpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r=045QGHKRV68TR1EZC7D0pf_rd_t=1401pf_rd_p=470412993pf_rd_i=1000321063.
 


We will update these pages periodically with further information on how 
you may access the internet with Windows 7 as we receive it.
[End Quote]

Seems a bit long-winded really.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Daniel Drummond
William Anderson wrote:
 Steve wrote:
   
 [snip]

 Just wait. October will be even more fun as people try to upgrade from  
 vista to 7.  I've already told a few it's going to cost them more than the  
 usual couple of pints to sort the mess out.
 

 From what I've heard, upgrading from Vista to 7 RC is pretty straight
 forward ...

 -n

   
Yeah, but there is no upgrade path for the E edition:

 From Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_84367553_1?ie=UTF8docId=1000321063pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLEpf_rd_s=special-product-offers-3pf_rd_r=0VK1CGRWR4HF3J8C5951pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_p=470371973pf_rd_i=B002DUCMT2

Since only the full product is available, please note that when you 
install the E edition of Windows 7, you'll need to do a custom (clean) 
installation. That means you'll need to back up all of your files and 
settings, install the operating system, then re-install your files, 
settings and programs. Be sure to check out Amazon’s great selection of 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/External-Storage-Backup/b/ref=amb_link_84355233_1?ie=UTF8node=1063408pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLEpf_rd_s=center-2pf_rd_r=045QGHKRV68TR1EZC7D0pf_rd_t=1401pf_rd_p=470412993pf_rd_i=1000321063external
 
storage devices in our electronics store that will assist you in this 
process. 

Doesn't sound like an easy upgrade path. Don't you just love that sudo 
update-manager -d is so simple??

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Rowan Berkeley
Lee wrote:

 ... the laptop is whining that the existing drivers have been
'specially modified by the manufacturer to improve performance on this
computer' and won't let the Intel drivers install.

That is exactly what was wrong with my 'Linux Certified' machine. Online
Ubuntu updates had the effect of disabling its Ethernet interface,
because a non-standard driver had been used to suit the hardware. I
loaded it with a standard driver by replacing the entire Ubuntu
operating system from a Live CD. It worked fine, updates and all, for
three months and then burned out somewhere in the chipset. I have
returned it and demanded a refund, on the grounds of its inability to
serve the function for which it was supplied. In case of refusal, I
shall want to know how to apply pressure regarding the suppliers' use of
the name 'Linux Certified', which is obviously unwarranted.

However, on my new machine, a 'Linux Emporium' Lenovo N-500 running
Ubuntu 9.04, there are no problems at all. I would say that Ubuntu falls
short in its applications clients, notably the music player and
e-mailer.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] where Ubuntu falls short

2009-07-16 Thread Sean Miller
What's wrong with the e-mailer?

You have a choice of multiple e-mail clients: evolution and
Thunderbird being the most popular, but there are many others in the
repos.

Far better than Outlook Express or whatever.

And I'm not quite sure what the objections to the music clients are
either... are you bemoaning the lack of iTunes, perchance?  I
certainly don't miss Windows Media Player!!  Bloatware of the highest
order.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

2009-07-16 Thread John Matthews
Ok, this is some good news, I have a question to ask, I need to change 
the permissions of a file in one of my folders, on my site, it has to be 
read only, as it is its 777.

I have gotten into the folder and have the list of files and their 
permissions, and I can see the file I need to change, but I am not sure 
of the command.

I know you have to chmod to something but I cannot work it out.

Can somebody help please?

John.

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Ubuntu Studio daily CD health check

2009-07-16 Thread Colin Watson
This is a daily health check report on the Ubuntu Studio CD images.
If you have any questions, contact Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com.

No problems found!

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Re: Gthumb as default image viewer?

2009-07-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
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Vincenzo Ciancia wrote on 14/07/09 17:52:
 
 Il 13/07/2009 17:02, Matthew Paul Thomas ha scritto:

 I helped the F-Spot developers with some design issues at Guadec last
 week. But the general issue of one interface being used for file
 management including photos, a second inconsistent interface being
 used for viewing and editing individual photos, and a third
 inconsistent interface being used for viewing and editing collections
 of photos, is a usability disaster beyond the scope of F-Spot.
 
 I am extremely happy to read this acknowledgment of the problem :) As
 far from a solution it may be. The same is true for all the other
 collection managers that are installed by default, that is, for
 banshee. A unique solution (if there is any) might be designed with
 both use cases in mind.

Yes. Ideally, I think, the interface for managing files, the interface
for managing music collections, the interface for managing personal
photos/recordings, the interface for managing study notes, and so on
would all be exact (or almost exact) supersets of a general interface
for managing collections. For example, the menu item for creating a new
sub-collection of files (a folder) should be in the same place as the
menu item for creating a new sub-collection of music (a playlist) and
the same place as the menu item for creating a new sub-collection of
photos (currently a tag). Currently they're three different menu items
with three different icons in three differently-named menus.

 The situation is made even worse by the fact that movies should belong
 both to f-spot because vacation pictures include movies - thus these
 short movies should appear e.g. in the f-spot slideshow - but movies
 should also belong to banshee, because you want to watch and rate all
 those anime series that you legally bought and downloaded from some
 online store.
...

Aaron Bockover announced at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit that Banshee
will expand to do basic photo management. So he has a vague idea of this
crossover, but probably the wrong approach to solving it, because the
ideal interface for playing music/movies (consumption) is quite
different from the ideal interface for editing photos/movies (production).

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Cursor and update issues on Intel 82865G graphics

2009-07-16 Thread Janaka
Does anyone know how to fix Cursor display and Screen update issues on
Kubuntu 9.04 on a Intel 82865G integrated graphics ?
3Ghz-Dual processor
1GB ram
SMBus

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Survey of l10n team communication tools

2009-07-16 Thread Evan R. Murphy
In the IRC meeting today, one topic discussed was the ways that
localization teams manage their communication. Could a representative
from each l10n team please reply to this thread explaining briefly (or
not so briefly, if you like ;) how your team keeps in touch?

For my part, I come from the Ubuntu Spanish Translators team, where we
rely almost entirely on the mailing list [1]. Recently however, due in
part to concerns that people newly interested in Spanish translations
weren't getting enough feedback, we've been making use of an IRC
channel [2] for our team. We also have a wiki [3] which houses our
more permanent information, information on how to join our team, links
to translations resources, etc.

Thanks,
Evan R. Murphy

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l10n team contacts

2009-07-16 Thread Evan R. Murphy
It was discussed in the IRC meeting today [1] that in order to better
facilitate communication between the various localization teams, each
team should have a formal contact. Each team's contact should be
available on and following this mailing list (ubuntu-translators [2]),
and it is strongly recommended that the team contacts be the (or one
of the) current l10n team leaders/coordinators.

Adi Roiban has volunteered to start the wiki page [3] which will
catalogue the l10n team contacts' information. Once it is up and
running, each team's contact should upload their contact details to
the wiki.

Further discussion and clarification about the l10n team contacts
issue should take place in this tread.

Thanks!
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Re: Survey of l10n team communication tools

2009-07-16 Thread Milo Casagrande
Hi,

2009/7/16 Evan R. Murphy evanrmur...@gmail.com:
 In the IRC meeting today, one topic discussed was the ways that
 localization teams manage their communication. Could a representative
 from each l10n team please reply to this thread explaining briefly (or
 not so briefly, if you like ;) how your team keeps in touch?

for the Italian team we rely on our mailing list as the primary
communication channel. We have an IRC channel too, but it's almost
empty.

We store information of our team, guidelines, and how to join the team
and mailing list in our wiki.

We have also a small place on the Italian forum where for each release
we set up a discussion that users can use to tell us about typos,
errors or untranslated strings they see. We do this because of the big
users base our forum has.

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Re: Survey of l10n team communication tools

2009-07-16 Thread Oleg Koptev
Hello

2009/7/16, Evan R. Murphy evanrmur...@gmail.com:
 In the IRC meeting today, one topic discussed was the ways that
 localization teams manage their communication. Could a representative
 from each l10n team please reply to this thread explaining briefly (or
 not so briefly, if you like ;) how your team keeps in touch?

What about Russian team - we also depend mostly on maillist [1].
We have IRC channel [2], but similar to Italian team it's almost empty
all the time.
We have Wiki page [3], and section about localisation on poular
russian ubuntu forum [4].

[1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-l10n-ru
[2] #ubuntu-translators-ru @ freenode.net
[3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuRussianTranslators
[4] http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?board=14.0

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Re: Survey of l10n team communication tools

2009-07-16 Thread Mads Bille Lundby
Hi

In the Danish translation team we normally just use the general
mailing list of danskgruppen (Danish Team), which is used by a variety
of Danish FOSS translation groups, including KDE, Gnome, Xfce, Fedora
etc. We tag the mail header, e.g [Ubuntu], [Gnome] [KDE] and so on...
We try to guide new translators into the mailing list, when they start
making translation suggestions through Launchpad.

Translation instructions are available on the Danskgruppen wiki,
though the complexity of the instructions reflects the complexity of
the current challenges of Launchpad :-).

IRC is not used very much.

I do, however, like the idea of communicating more through the Danish
Ubuntu Forum, but when we try to recruit potential translators through
the forum, I get almost no replies.

/Mads Bille Lundby



2009/7/16 Evan R. Murphy evanrmur...@gmail.com:
 In the IRC meeting today, one topic discussed was the ways that
 localization teams manage their communication. Could a representative
 from each l10n team please reply to this thread explaining briefly (or
 not so briefly, if you like ;) how your team keeps in touch?

 For my part, I come from the Ubuntu Spanish Translators team, where we
 rely almost entirely on the mailing list [1]. Recently however, due in
 part to concerns that people newly interested in Spanish translations
 weren't getting enough feedback, we've been making use of an IRC
 channel [2] for our team. We also have a wiki [3] which houses our
 more permanent information, information on how to join our team, links
 to translations resources, etc.

 Thanks,
 Evan R. Murphy

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 [2] #ubuntu-l10n-es on irc.freenode.net
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Re: Ubuntu on a Macbook?

2009-07-16 Thread Christopher Stamper
Thanks everyone. Lots of great information!


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[ubuntu-ec] Liderazgo Comunitario: Cómo llegar , Horarios y sesiones

2009-07-16 Thread Alex Montenegro
Retransmito un email de Jono

Hola a todos,

Sólo quería enviar un correo electrónico al final de todo el mundo antes de
que la Comunidad
Cumbre de Liderazgo se inicia este fin de semana en San José. Gracias a
a todos por participar: se forma para convertirse en un gran
fin de semana emocionante con muchas oportunidades para el debate con gran
una increíble colección de mentes. Este es el primer evento de su clase
y yo hemos estado trabajando duro para cruzar no el punto y la 'i y
todo es bastante listo para rodar, pero estoy dispuesto a recoger su
información durante todo el evento. Siéntase libre para agarrar conmigo si
tiene alguna
preguntas o comentarios.

También quiero dar las gracias a O'Reilly, Alfresco, en SourceForge, y
Canónica
Monty Programa para ayudar a pagar por algunos de los elementos de la CLS.
En
el corazón de la filosofía de la CLS es un proveedor neutral de juegos para
los
discutir la construcción de la comunidad y las mejores prácticas y, como
tal, he
sido explícita a estos patrocinadores de que el evento no será impulsado por
cualquier
diferente debido a su patrocinio. Cada una de estas empresas ha
sido increíble apoyo de la ética y con ganas de contribuir a que el
evento ocurra. Gracias de nuevo!

Por lo tanto, he aquí algunos detalles finales sobre el evento.

== == El Calendario

 Viernes 

En la noche del viernes muchos asistentes se reúnen para la cena
y bebidas. Usted puede encontrar más detalles a este respecto en
http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/wiki/index.php/Friday_night_plans
y siéntase libre de añadir sus propios planes.

 Sábado 

Liderazgo de la Comunidad tiene lugar en el Centro de Convenciones McEnery.
La dirección para el GPS es el siguiente:

San José Centro de Convenciones
150 West San Carlos St.
San Jose, CA 95113

Hay múltiples entradas al centro de convenciones, pero es
recomendable que tome la entrada de la calle Mercado N - que se
más cercano a donde se basan. Al llegar allí se debe caminar
hacia la zona de habitaciones Salas de Reunión C1, C2, C3, C4 y Reunión
Habitaciones D y E. Habrá un montón de firmas que apunta a donde ir.
Si tiene algún problema llegar allí, no dudes en llamarme en
415-658-1738.

El calendario para el fin de semana se encuentra en
http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/schedule/ - puertas abiertas
a las 9am y el registro es entre las 9am y las 10am. Cuando llegue usted
puede recoger un cordón y una insignia y escribir en él su nombre,
organización y los proyectos / temas / áreas usted está interesado pulg

La sesión plenaria de apertura comenzará a las 10am en la que presentará el
caso, las oportunidades que tenemos allí y cómo funciona. A continuación,
entrar en sesiones de 11. Hay un montón de espacio y un período de sesiones
gran oportunidad de contribuir a la ejecución de las sesiones sobre temas
que
de tu interés.

El sábado por la tarde hemos decidido elegir una ubicación para todos
conocer. Siéntase libre para la cena cuando te sientes, pero la mayoría de
los
asistentes deben estar de 7pm en reunión:

Gordon Biersch Restaurante
33 East San Fernando Street
San Jose, CA 95113

Teléfono: 408-294-6785
Fax: 408-294-4052

http://www.gordonbiersch.com/restaurants/index.php?pg=locationsub=loclocation_id=19

Este precio es un buen restaurante y bar con una gran cantidad de opciones.
Asegúrese
a traer su tarjeta de identificación al restaurante para que pueda obtener
un 10% de descuento!

 Domingo 

Domingo comenzará en gran medida el mismo horario, aunque la primera
hora se va a abrir una serie de conversaciones de los rayos. Nosotros
coordinar estas conversaciones el sábado y voy a discutir esto en el
sesión plenaria de apertura.

Una vez más, el calendario se pueden ver en
http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/schedule/

Como la primera encarnación de un evento anual que estoy realmente dispuesto
a escuchar
sus comentarios durante el evento por lo que puede rodar en sus comentarios
Cumbre de Liderazgo de la Comunidad de 2010. Para ayudar con esto he añadido
una
pocos período de sesiones en la final de cada día para recoger esta
información.

Adición de Sesiones == ==

Al llegar al evento habrá un gran calendario disponible en
el vestíbulo. Adición de una sesión es simple:

1. Agarra una de las tarjetas de cerca el período de sesiones el calendario

2. Escribir en la tarjeta:
* El nombre del período de sesiones
* Una breve frase que explica de qué se trata
* Su nombre

3. Escoja una ranura disponible, grabe algunos virar palo y la tarjeta en la
ranura disponible.

Hecho! Es entonces recomendable que correr la voz acerca de su
período de sesiones, y alentar a otros a unirse a los asistentes allí.

== Problemas / Preguntas / Consultas ==

Si tiene alguna pregunta o consulta, no dude en mi correo electrónico en
j...@jonobacon.org o llamando al 415-658-1738 en mí. I también se puede
encontrar
en el IRC en # cls en irc.freenode.net

Espero ver a todos ustedes en el fin de semana!

Jono

Atentamente
Fernando Montenegro
Blog: 

[Ubuntu-BR] Criar varios atalhos de acesso remoto na area de trabalho

2009-07-16 Thread Leonardo Ribeiro
Srs,
Tenho algumas configurações de acesso a area de trabalho remoto, todos
funcionam perfeitamente bem, mas gostaria de criar na area de trabalho um
icone para cada configuracao, por exemplo, um icone para acesso a maquina X,
outro para maquina Y e outro para a maquina Z. Com isso nao precisaria
entrar na tela de configuracao e escolher qual eu quero apenas clicaria no
icone respectivo.

Alguem sabe me dizer como fazer?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Python-dcop no Ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-16 Thread Xisberto
2009/7/15 Marcos Goulart mgoul...@riseup.net

 Oi, pessoal, uso o EMESENE e estou tentando usar o plugin Música
 Atual, porém, ele tá dando erro, pedindo para instalar o dcopext ou o
 python-dcop -  eu uso o Amarok 1.4. Usava o Ubuntu 8.10, mas esse
 problema não acontecia, alguém sabe o que eu posso fazer.



Agora leio outra vez teu email original e vejo um problema aqui. Você está
usando o Ubuntu Jaunty e o amarok 1.4, mas o Jaunty vem com o amarok 2.0,
como você fez isso? O seu problema de dependências de pacote é exatamente
por isso.

Use o amarok 2.0, que é mais recente, mais bonito e tem mais recursos.
Remova o amarok que você tem instalado e instale o amarok pelo Synaptic.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Criar varios atalhos de acesso remoto na area de trabalho

2009-07-16 Thread Daniel Alves
Crie um atalho e coloque no caminho vinagre 192.168.x.xxx (sem aspas
seguido do ip da maquina desejada)
Pelo menos aqui comigo funcionou assim


Em Qui, 2009-07-16 às 08:54 -0300, Leonardo Ribeiro escreveu:
 Srs,
 Tenho algumas configurações de acesso a area de trabalho remoto, todos
 funcionam perfeitamente bem, mas gostaria de criar na area de trabalho um
 icone para cada configuracao, por exemplo, um icone para acesso a maquina X,
 outro para maquina Y e outro para a maquina Z. Com isso nao precisaria
 entrar na tela de configuracao e escolher qual eu quero apenas clicaria no
 icone respectivo.
 
 Alguem sabe me dizer como fazer?
 
 -- 
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 Leonardo
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Criar varios atalhos de acesso remoto na area de trabalho

2009-07-16 Thread Daniel Alves
Em Qui, 2009-07-16 às 08:03 -0400, Daniel Alves escreveu:
 Crie um atalho e coloque no caminho vinagre 192.168.x.xxx (sem aspas
 seguido do ip da maquina desejada)
 Pelo menos aqui comigo funcionou assim
 

ou, se não funcionar vnc://192.168.x.xxx


 Em Qui, 2009-07-16 às 08:54 -0300, Leonardo Ribeiro escreveu:
  Srs,
  Tenho algumas configurações de acesso a area de trabalho remoto, todos
  funcionam perfeitamente bem, mas gostaria de criar na area de trabalho um
  icone para cada configuracao, por exemplo, um icone para acesso a maquina X,
  outro para maquina Y e outro para a maquina Z. Com isso nao precisaria
  entrar na tela de configuracao e escolher qual eu quero apenas clicaria no
  icone respectivo.
  
  Alguem sabe me dizer como fazer?
  
  -- 
  []'s
  Leonardo
  
  Linux User #488650
  Ubuntu User #27045
  Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece
 
 -- 
 Daniel Alves
 Gerente de Compras
 (67) 3383-3311
 (67) 9277-0081
 
 

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Criar varios atalhos de acesso remoto na area de trabalho

2009-07-16 Thread Leonardo Ribeiro
Opa Daniel, obrigado pelas dicas mas infelizmente nao funcionou..
Mas veja, faltou uma informacao no meu 1º email, eu to usando o Cliente do
Terminal Server..



2009/7/16 Daniel Alves dan...@centralborrachas.com.br

 Em Qui, 2009-07-16 às 08:03 -0400, Daniel Alves escreveu:
  Crie um atalho e coloque no caminho vinagre 192.168.x.xxx (sem aspas
  seguido do ip da maquina desejada)
  Pelo menos aqui comigo funcionou assim
 

 ou, se não funcionar vnc://192.168.x.xxx


  Em Qui, 2009-07-16 às 08:54 -0300, Leonardo Ribeiro escreveu:
   Srs,
   Tenho algumas configurações de acesso a area de trabalho remoto, todos
   funcionam perfeitamente bem, mas gostaria de criar na area de trabalho
 um
   icone para cada configuracao, por exemplo, um icone para acesso a
 maquina X,
   outro para maquina Y e outro para a maquina Z. Com isso nao precisaria
   entrar na tela de configuracao e escolher qual eu quero apenas clicaria
 no
   icone respectivo.
  
   Alguem sabe me dizer como fazer?
  
   --
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   Leonardo
  
   Linux User #488650
   Ubuntu User #27045
   Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece
 
  --
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  Gerente de Compras
  (67) 3383-3311
  (67) 9277-0081
 
 

 --
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 (67) 9277-0081


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Python-dcop no Ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-16 Thread Marcos Goulart
Cara, eu cheguei a usar esse amarok 2, mas não gostei dele, por isso,
resolvi voltar para o amarok 1.4. Usei essa dica
http://mudandoparaolinux.blogspot.com/2009/04/amarok-14-no-ubuntu-904.html.
Valeu pela dica.
Abraço

Marcos



 2009/7/15 Marcos Goulart mgoul...@riseup.net

 Oi, pessoal, uso o EMESENE e estou tentando usar o plugin Música
 Atual, porém, ele tá dando erro, pedindo para instalar o dcopext ou o
 python-dcop -  eu uso o Amarok 1.4. Usava o Ubuntu 8.10, mas esse
 problema não acontecia, alguém sabe o que eu posso fazer.



 Agora leio outra vez teu email original e vejo um problema aqui. Você está
 usando o Ubuntu Jaunty e o amarok 1.4, mas o Jaunty vem com o amarok 2.0,
 como você fez isso? O seu problema de dependências de pacote é exatamente
 por isso.

 Use o amarok 2.0, que é mais recente, mais bonito e tem mais recursos.
 Remova o amarok que você tem instalado e instale o amarok pelo Synaptic.

 --
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 http://xisberto.blogspot.com
 http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu One - Problema

2009-07-16 Thread Marcelo Silva
O que seria esse view files vc quer acessar essa maquina í remotamente é 
isso?
Se for este o caso terá que criar regras no iptables do seu proxy pra isso 
( se foir linux claro ) se for windows tambem terá que redirecionar isso.

Mas mande mais detalhes, pois nao deu pra entender se o seu Proxy é a 
maquina que tem seu Ubuntu One ou se é outra maquina :)

Marcelo Silva

msn: marc...@ig.com.br
cel.: (11) 9693-4251

- Original Message - 
From: pedr...@gmail.com
To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:54 PM
Subject: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu One - Problema


Rapazeada,

Eu conheci o Ubuntu One aqui na lista quando alguem falou sobre. Pois então,
eu instalei em casa e tudo tranquilo. Ja no trabalho tenho um servidor
PROXY! que na minha opnião esta me atrapalhando, pois instalei da mesma
forma que instalei em casa. Aqui no trabalho não consigo abrir a parte de
view files e liberar o pc para utilizar ele.

Quais são os pré-requisistos? eu pensei primeiramente em java. mais o site
diz que ja é o mais atual. existem outros? quais?



att

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu One - Problema

2009-07-16 Thread pedroav
Desculpe, estava no trabalho e lá é maior correria.

O servidor proxy não é a mesma maquina do Ubuntu One. resumidamente a rede é
algo como:   Internet  proxy / firewall  Switch's  meu desktop.

Quando falei que não conseguia utilizar o link view files foi o seguinte,
eu instalei o Ubuntu One no desktop, mais eu preciso liberar o computador
para utilizar o serviço, correto?  Então eu acessei o site
https://ubuntuone.com/ fiz o login e então no centro da tela fica escrito
loading eternamente.

E eu não consigo enviar nada para o servidor nem ver os arquivos que ja
estão la. Eu imaginei inicialmente que pudesse ser o Java.


att

Pedro A. Viana
MSN: pedro_...@hotmail.com




2009/7/16 Marcelo Silva marc...@ig.com.br

 O que seria esse view files vc quer acessar essa maquina í remotamente é
 isso?
 Se for este o caso terá que criar regras no iptables do seu proxy pra isso
 ( se foir linux claro ) se for windows tambem terá que redirecionar isso.

 Mas mande mais detalhes, pois nao deu pra entender se o seu Proxy é a
 maquina que tem seu Ubuntu One ou se é outra maquina :)

 Marcelo Silva
 
 msn: marc...@ig.com.br
 cel.: (11) 9693-4251

 - Original Message -
 From: pedr...@gmail.com
 To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro 
 ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:54 PM
 Subject: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu One - Problema


 Rapazeada,

 Eu conheci o Ubuntu One aqui na lista quando alguem falou sobre. Pois
 então,
 eu instalei em casa e tudo tranquilo. Ja no trabalho tenho um servidor
 PROXY! que na minha opnião esta me atrapalhando, pois instalei da mesma
 forma que instalei em casa. Aqui no trabalho não consigo abrir a parte de
 view files e liberar o pc para utilizar ele.

 Quais são os pré-requisistos? eu pensei primeiramente em java. mais o site
 diz que ja é o mais atual. existem outros? quais?



 att

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Python-dcop no Ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-16 Thread Xisberto
2009/7/16 Marcos Goulart mgoul...@riseup.net

 Cara, eu cheguei a usar esse amarok 2, mas não gostei dele, por isso,
 resolvi voltar para o amarok 1.4. Usei essa dica
 http://mudandoparaolinux.blogspot.com/2009/04/amarok-14-no-ubuntu-904.html
 .
 Valeu pela dica.
 Abraço

 Marcos


Faz tempo que não uso o amarok, tenho usado o rhythmbox e o exaile. Eles
respondem aos comandos de play/pause/next do teclado e são GTK (pesam menos
na memória e não precisam de bibliotecas adicionais, como é o seu caso).

O exaile é quase uma cópia do visual do amarok 1, então acho que você vai
gostar dele.

Se você, como o dono do blog, agüenta ter um player que apenas toque as
músicas sem criar uma biblioteca, use o vlc e seja feliz.




  2009/7/15 Marcos Goulart mgoul...@riseup.net
 
  Oi, pessoal, uso o EMESENE e estou tentando usar o plugin Música
  Atual, porém, ele tá dando erro, pedindo para instalar o dcopext ou o
  python-dcop -  eu uso o Amarok 1.4. Usava o Ubuntu 8.10, mas esse
  problema não acontecia, alguém sabe o que eu posso fazer.
 
 
 
  Agora leio outra vez teu email original e vejo um problema aqui. Você
 está
  usando o Ubuntu Jaunty e o amarok 1.4, mas o Jaunty vem com o amarok 2.0,
  como você fez isso? O seu problema de dependências de pacote é exatamente
  por isso.
 
  Use o amarok 2.0, que é mais recente, mais bonito e tem mais recursos.
  Remova o amarok que você tem instalado e instale o amarok pelo Synaptic.
 
  --
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  http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Python-dcop no Ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-16 Thread Daniel Alves

 O exaile é quase uma cópia do visual do amarok 1, então acho que você vai
 gostar dele.

 -- 
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Resolveu meu problema de tocador mp3! o exaile é exatamente o que eu
procurava desde que comecei usar o ubuntu... Ja instalei inumeros
players, muito bons, mas nenhum tinha exatamente o que eu queria, o
exaile é o melhor de todos...

Abraços e valew pela dica Xisberto


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[Ubuntu-BR] Como Saber a Configuração das Maqu inas

2009-07-16 Thread Gabriel Molter
Olá,

  Eu gostaria de Saber como eu fasso para descobrir as principais
configurações(Processador, Memória, HD, Placa-Mãe,etc..) das maquinas que eu
tenho, qual comando eu uso ?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como Saber a Configuração das Maqu inas

2009-07-16 Thread Erasmo José Pereira de Oliveira
Bom Gabriel existem algumas maneiras... pode começar por um lspci para
verificar parte de teu hardware... Para ver o espaço disponível em
disco, memória e processador é só ir em sistema  administração 
monitor do sistema ... na aba sistema tem tudo isso

Espero ter ajudado

Em Qui, 2009-07-16 às 11:37 -0300, Gabriel Molter escreveu:
 Olá,
 
   Eu gostaria de Saber como eu fasso para descobrir as principais
 configurações(Processador, Memória, HD, Placa-Mãe,etc..) das maquinas que eu
 tenho, qual comando eu uso ?
 
 Muito Obrigada
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como Saber a Configuração das Maqu inas

2009-07-16 Thread Allan Carvalho
Gabriel Molter escreveu:
 Olá,

   Eu gostaria de Saber como eu fasso para descobrir as principais
 configurações(Processador, Memória, HD, Placa-Mãe,etc..) das maquinas que eu
 tenho, qual comando eu uso ?

 Muito Obrigada
   
sudo aptitude install hwinfo
hwinfo  conf.txt
gedit conf.txt

Executa esses três comandos e seja feliz.

Atenciosamente,
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Python-dcop no Ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-16 Thread pedroav
O assunto orignal do email de repente nem é sobre player de audio mais
vocês ja usaram o Songbird 1.2.0 ??? na minha opnião é N vezes superior ao
Exaile (usava ele antes do songbird) e do amarok.

att

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  O exaile é quase uma cópia do visual do amarok 1, então acho que você vai
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 exaile é o melhor de todos...

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Python-dcop no Ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-16 Thread Marcos Goulart
Valeu pela dica, vou dar uma testada no exaile.
Abraço

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[Ubuntu-BR] Inspiron 1525 - WinXP sem áudio no V irtualBOX

2009-07-16 Thread Maudy Pedrao
Amigos...
Instalei - com sucesso - o WinXP PRO SP3 pelo VirtualBOX no Ubuntu 9.04.
Tudo ocorreu perfeitamente, MENOS, o driver de áudio.

Já instalei aquele lance de *guest* additions, mas nada mudou. Nem mesmo
pegando o driver correto no site da Dell.

Alguém pode me ajudar sobre o assunto??

ps.: e como faço para que a pasta compartilhada seja vista pelo sistema
hospedado?

Grato

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Executando jogos no Wine/PlayOnLinux

2009-07-16 Thread Andre Cavalcante
2009/7/15 Jorgeluis Guerra jorgeluis...@gmail.com

 Tava testando o wine com StarCraft (clássico =D).
 E ficou lento, então li no WineHQ que era bom adicionar as duas chaves no
 registro do Wine:
 Em HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Wine/Direct3D:
 DirectDrawRenderer  opengl
 E ainda, talvez:
 RenderTargetLockMode   readtex

 E a velocidade do jogo melhorou 100%. Será que essa dica vale pra todos os
 jogos que rodam em DX?


SC? Tu és veio eimh mano!
Oia só, o SC usava DX5, então acho que não vale...

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Python-dcop no Ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-16 Thread Fernando Brito
Oi.

Tenho essa página como consolo pra quando ocorrem esses problemas:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/

Valeu.

Em 16/07/09, Marcos Goulartmgoul...@riseup.net escreveu:
 Valeu pela dica, vou dar uma testada no exaile.
 Abraço

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como Saber a Configuração das Maqu inas

2009-07-16 Thread Kakinho Preto
*# lshw -html*

Gera um relatório em html.



*# lshw  hardware.txt*

Gera um relatório completo em txt.




2009/7/16 Allan Carvalho al...@ceb.unicamp.br

 Gabriel Molter escreveu:
  Olá,
 
Eu gostaria de Saber como eu fasso para descobrir as principais
  configurações(Processador, Memória, HD, Placa-Mãe,etc..) das maquinas que
 eu
  tenho, qual comando eu uso ?
 
  Muito Obrigada
 
 sudo aptitude install hwinfo
 hwinfo  conf.txt
 gedit conf.txt

 Executa esses três comandos e seja feliz.

 Atenciosamente,
 Allan Carvalho

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Rede wireless

2009-07-16 Thread Zandre Bran
2009/7/14  medeiros_r...@terra.com.br:
 Amigos,

Ôlas medeiros_rosa.

 eu uso rede wireless, meu lap tbm usa, e gostaria de trocar doc com os meus 
 outros 6 pcs q usam win, meu ubuntu no lap vê eles todos, só não abre, como 
 posso configurar isso??

Use o samba para falar com rede windows. Uma pequena busca no
histórico da lista você encontrará vasto material sobre.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-br/2009-January/050376.html
http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/Samba

 Obrigado

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Rede Sem Fio

2009-07-16 Thread Zandre Bran
2009/7/9  pedr...@gmail.com:
 Bom dia,

Ôlas Pedro.

[...] Dai eu ja notei que minha de rede sem fio não conecta
 de primeira. Eu preciso então clicar com botao direito no icone da rede sem
 fio, clicar em conectar em hidden wireless network [...]

Eu também não envio sinal de minha wire e trabalho com IP
estático. Você pode alterar o /etc/network/interfaces para conectar
sua placa. Veja um exemplo:

auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet static
address 192.168.168.253
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.168.0
broadcast 192.168.168.255
gateway 192.168.168.254
#   dns-nameservers 192.168.168.254
wireless-essid MinhaRede

 Desde ja obrigado.
 att
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[Ubuntu-BR] Resposta Como saber configuração d as Maquinas

2009-07-16 Thread ulysses silva
Eu fiz esse tuto com essa ótima ferramenta:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubk6F4fI1wE
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[Ubuntu-BR] Mapear compartilhamento do AD

2009-07-16 Thread Piter
Boa noite pessoal...
estou tentando mapear um compartilhamento do AD no meu ubuntu...
tentei montar via fstab com cifs só que quando tem algum arquivo com ç
acente ,etc... não abre a pasta... e achei ruin por ter que pedir para os
usuarios passarem a senha do dominio pra eu configurar..
e pelo gnome places -  Conect to server -  Windows share ... ele fica
sempre aquele chaveiro maldito pedindo senha de root...
qual a melhor maneira de fazer isso?
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)

2009-07-16 Thread Patrick Coeman


martijn cielen schreef:

 Ik gebruik AL mijn softwaren in het Engels, omdat ik walg van (meestal
 slecht) vertaalde software (harde schijf? zijn er dan ook zachte?). De
 discussie ging dan ook niet over softwaregebruik, maar over taalgebruik
 in Ubuntu-BE.

Matrijn,

De meeste openbron pakketten kunnen hulp bij vertalen best gebruiken. De
grotere hebben daar zelfs kleine teams rond. Misschien een suggestie om
je harde nationalistische reflex te kanaliseren?

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)

2009-07-16 Thread martijn cielen
Ik help nu al geregeld sofware vertalen.

2009/7/16 Patrick Coeman patrick.coe...@171.be



 martijn cielen schreef:

  Ik gebruik AL mijn softwaren in het Engels, omdat ik walg van (meestal
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  discussie ging dan ook niet over softwaregebruik, maar over taalgebruik
  in Ubuntu-BE.

 Matrijn,

 De meeste openbron pakketten kunnen hulp bij vertalen best gebruiken. De
 grotere hebben daar zelfs kleine teams rond. Misschien een suggestie om
 je harde nationalistische reflex te kanaliseren?

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9.04 + intel82865g =...

2009-07-16 Thread Denis Yurashkou
Дорогие все.

Уже 2 недели имею проблему со встроенной видеокартой Intel.
Монитор ViewSonic VA1916w с нативными 1440*900.
Но система при загрузке устанавливается в 1152*864 и ничем её не сдвинешь.
:(
И главное, среди разрешений, выдаваемых xrandr, нет 1440*900.
Драйвер intel.

Лечится ли чем-нибудь сие безобразие?

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Re: 9.04 + intel82865g =...

2009-07-16 Thread Роман
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:16:42 +0400, Denis Yurashkou dayfu...@gmail.com  
wrote:

 Дорогие все.

 Уже 2 недели имею проблему со встроенной видеокартой Intel.
 Монитор ViewSonic VA1916w с нативными 1440*900.
 Но система при загрузке устанавливается в 1152*864 и ничем её не  
 сдвинешь.
 :(
 И главное, среди разрешений, выдаваемых xrandr, нет 1440*900.
 Драйвер intel.

 Лечится ли чем-нибудь сие безобразие?



Лечится установкой убунту 8.10

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Re: 9.04 + intel82865g =...

2009-07-16 Thread Denis Yurashkou
16 июля 2009 г. 9:23 пользователь Роман rem23051...@rambler.ru написал:

 On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:16:42 +0400, Denis Yurashkou dayfu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Дорогие все.
 
  Уже 2 недели имею проблему со встроенной видеокартой Intel.
  Монитор ViewSonic VA1916w с нативными 1440*900.


[...skipped...]

 Лечится ли чем-нибудь сие безобразие?
 


 Лечится установкой убунту 8.10


Пробовал. Это первое, что я попробовал: откатиться на 8.10.
Согласен, там это легче исправляется.

Неужели ж нет решения, кроме как /dev/hands?




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Re: 9.04 + intel82865g =...

2009-07-16 Thread Роман
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:45:36 +0400, Denis Yurashkou dayfu...@gmail.com  
wrote:

 16 июля 2009 г. 9:23 пользователь Роман rem23051...@rambler.ru написал:

 On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:16:42 +0400, Denis Yurashkou dayfu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Дорогие все.
 
  Уже 2 недели имею проблему со встроенной видеокартой Intel.
  Монитор ViewSonic VA1916w с нативными 1440*900.


 [...skipped...]

 Лечится ли чем-нибудь сие безобразие?
 


 Лечится установкой убунту 8.10


 Пробовал. Это первое, что я попробовал: откатиться на 8.10.
 Согласен, там это легче исправляется.

 Неужели ж нет решения, кроме как /dev/hands?


а /дев/хандс всегда требуется
и потом в 9.04 траблы же с интел еще и по производительности, так что  
ИМХО, наилучший выход именно откат на 8.10 или 8.04


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vpn pptp reconnect after disconnect ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-16 Thread Юрий Аполлов
здравствуй, сообщество
может, кто подскажет: что можно придумать, чтобы pptp соединение после
обрыва восстанавливалось (как в Windows)?
при соединении, простое и обрыве происходит вот что (/var/log/daemon.log)


Jul 10 18:14:05 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Starting VPN service
'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp'...
Jul 10 18:14:05 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN service
'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp' started
(org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp), PID 9111
Jul 10 18:14:05 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN service
'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp' just appeared, activating connections
Jul 10 18:14:05 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin state
changed: 1
Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin state
changed: 3
Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN connection
'VPN-соединение 1' (Connect) reply received.
Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9117]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[main:pptp.c:314]: The synchronous pptp option is NOT activated
Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 1
'Start-Control-Connection-Request'
Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:739]: Received Start Control Connection Reply
Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:773]: Client connection established.
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 7
'Outgoing-Call-Request'
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:858]: Received Outgoing Call Reply.
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:897]: Outgoing call established (call ID 0,
peer's call ID 16768).
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN connection
'VPN-соединение 1' (IP Config Get) reply received.
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager:
nm_ip4_config_add_nameserver: assertion `nameserver != s' failed
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN Gateway:
10.1.1.208
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Tunnel Device: ppp0
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Internal IP4
Address: 192.168.180.230
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Internal IP4 Prefix:
32
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Internal IP4
Point-to-Point Address: 192.168.100.208
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Maximum Segment Size
(MSS): 0
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Internal IP4 DNS:
10.1.1.223
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  DNS Domain: '(none)'

Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Login Banner:
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info
-
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  (null)
Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info
-
Jul 10 18:14:08 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN connection
'VPN-соединение 1' (IP Config Get) complete.
Jul 10 18:14:08 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Policy set
'VPN-соединение 1' (ppp0) as default for routing and DNS.
Jul 10 18:14:08 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin state
changed: 4
Jul 10 18:14:08 mc-scrat-acer-1 nm-dispatcher.action: Script
'/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown' exited with error status 1.
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:544]: read returned zero, peer has closed
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:258]: Closing connection (shutdown)
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 12
'Call-Clear-Request'
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:544]: read returned zero, peer has closed
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
log[call_callback:pptp_callmgr.c:79]: Closing connection (call state)
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin state
changed: 5
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin state
changed: 6
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin state
change reason: 0
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: WARN
connection_state_changed(): Could not process the request because no VPN
connection was active.
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager:
nm_system_device_flush_ip4_routes_with_iface: assertion `iface_idx = 0'
failed
Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager:
nm_system_device_flush_ip4_addresses_with_iface: assertion `iface_idx = 0'
failed
Jul 10 18:14:25 

Re: 9.04 + intel82865g =...

2009-07-16 Thread andrey i. mavlyanov
Denis Yurashkou wrote:
 Дорогие все.
 
 Уже 2 недели имею проблему со встроенной видеокартой Intel.
 Монитор ViewSonic VA1916w с нативными 1440*900.
 Но система при загрузке устанавливается в 1152*864 и ничем её не 
 сдвинешь. :(
 И главное, среди разрешений, выдаваемых xrandr, нет 1440*900.
 Драйвер intel.
 
 Лечится ли чем-нибудь сие безобразие?

попробуйте драйвера из ppa обновлений x.org


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Re: vpn pptp reconnect after disconnect ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-16 Thread San_Sanych
Юрий Аполлов пишет:
 здравствуй, сообщество
 может, кто подскажет: что можно придумать, чтобы pptp соединение после
 обрыва восстанавливалось (как в Windows)?
 при соединении, простое и обрыве происходит вот что (/var/log/daemon.log)


 Jul 10 18:14:05 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Starting VPN
 service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp'...
 Jul 10 18:14:05 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN service
 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp' started
 (org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp), PID 9111
 Jul 10 18:14:05 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN service
 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp' just appeared, activating
 connections
 Jul 10 18:14:05 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin
 state changed: 1
 Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin
 state changed: 3
 Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN connection
 'VPN-соединение 1' (Connect) reply received.
 Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9117]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[main:pptp.c:314]: The synchronous pptp option is NOT activated
 Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 1
 'Start-Control-Connection-Request'
 Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:739]: Received Start Control Connection Reply
 Jul 10 18:14:06 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:773]: Client connection established.
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 7
 'Outgoing-Call-Request'
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:858]: Received Outgoing Call Reply.
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:897]: Outgoing call established (call ID 0,
 peer's call ID 16768).
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN connection
 'VPN-соединение 1' (IP Config Get) reply received.
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager:
 nm_ip4_config_add_nameserver: assertion `nameserver != s' failed
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN Gateway:
 10.1.1.208
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Tunnel Device:
 ppp0
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Internal IP4
 Address: 192.168.180.230
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Internal IP4
 Prefix: 32
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Internal IP4
 Point-to-Point Address: 192.168.100.208
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Maximum
 Segment Size (MSS): 0
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Internal IP4
 DNS: 10.1.1.223
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  DNS Domain:
 '(none)'
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Login Banner:
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info 
 -
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  (null)
 Jul 10 18:14:07 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info 
 -
 Jul 10 18:14:08 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN connection
 'VPN-соединение 1' (IP Config Get) complete.
 Jul 10 18:14:08 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  Policy set
 'VPN-соединение 1' (ppp0) as default for routing and DNS.
 Jul 10 18:14:08 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin
 state changed: 4
 Jul 10 18:14:08 mc-scrat-acer-1 nm-dispatcher.action: Script
 '/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown' exited with error status 1.
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:544]: read returned zero, peer has closed
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:258]: Closing connection (shutdown)
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 12
 'Call-Clear-Request'
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:544]: read returned zero, peer has closed
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 pptp[9126]: nm-pptp-service-9111
 log[call_callback:pptp_callmgr.c:79]: Closing connection (call state)
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin
 state changed: 5
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin
 state changed: 6
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin
 state change reason: 0
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager: WARN 
 connection_state_changed(): Could not process the request because no
 VPN connection was active.
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 NetworkManager:
 nm_system_device_flush_ip4_routes_with_iface: assertion `iface_idx =
 0' failed
 Jul 10 18:14:24 mc-scrat-acer-1 

[Bug 394385] Re: [karmic] php packages need update to 5.3

2009-07-16 Thread Omega
Just a note, I'd definitely be excited to see PHP 5.3+ in Karmic as it
includes some pretty cutting edge features!

Hopefully we make it in time.

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[Bug 395062] Re: samba nmbd uses the wrong ip adress to send user unkown

2009-07-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Does setting interfaces the name of the interface (eth0:1, lo) rather than the 
IPs work any better ?
Is it reproducible systematically ?


** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 397203] Re: ldap.so missing from package

2009-07-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
By Winbind has lost LDAP support you mean it used to work with
previous Ubuntu versions ? Trying to figure if it's a regression or a
feature request.

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[Bug 296952] Re: mysqlhotcopy failed on table with hyphen in name

2009-07-16 Thread Steve Langasek
** Changed in: mysql-dfsg-5.0 (Ubuntu Hardy)
Milestone: ubuntu-8.04.3 = None

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[Bug 399588] Re: package dhcp3-client 3.1.1-5ubuntu8.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2009-07-16 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Thank you for using Ubuntu and taking the time to report a bug. Based on:
debconf: DbDriver templatedb: /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat is locked by 
another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
dpkg: error processing dhcp3-client (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1

This looks like a transitory error. Marking as Invalid. Please reopen if
you continue to have problems upgrading.

** Changed in: dhcp3 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 371876] Re: package samba 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1

2009-07-16 Thread sm bo
This error there is in Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit too.

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[Bug 227344] Re: bind-dlz und ldap api

2009-07-16 Thread Torsten Rehn
Still not fixed in jaunty either.

lamont: this bug has been closed prematurely as it is not about just
enabling DLZ, but fixing the %-issue, which renders DLZ broken and
useless for LDAP use atm. Please fix this asap. It's a 2-byte change.

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[Bug 399954] [NEW] Karmic Boot hangs at Configuring network interfaces

2009-07-16 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
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On a Tylersburg-EP (dual Nehalem CPU), the boot process stops at
Configuring network interfaces. If I set  VERBOSE=yes inside
/etc/init.d/networking , then runlevel: No such file or directory is
printed ad infinitum. I found that if I added the '-v' option to
/sbin/ifup, then all works well. This behaviour started with 2.6.31-2
and persists in 2.6.31-3. Prior 2.6.30 based kernels work fine.

** Affects: dhcp3 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Medium
 Status: Triaged

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[Bug 399954] Re: Karmic Boot hangs at Configuring network interfaces

2009-07-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
Thanks Tim.

The bug is in the dhcp3-client script, specifically this bit:

# Wait for apparmor to load
while [ ! -e $AAPROFILES ]; do
# If apparmor is not loaded by the time we leave rcS, we go into S from
# another runlevel, or are in a non-S runlevel, just exit
runlevel | grep -E -q '( [0-9]|[0-9] S)'  exit 0
sleep 1
done

For various reasons, this is _NEVER_ going to work!

Firstly we call ifup from udev for most standard network devices, and
this happens very early in the boot sequence.  At this point the
/var/run/utmp file doesn't exist, so runlevel will output that error and
exit because it can't find the file.

Secondly runlevel inherently returns undefined data when running
through rcS.d, because you have not yet entered a runlevel.  rcS.d is
not the single-user runlevel, it is the sysinit phase; until this is
completed, you are neither in single-user mode *or* multi-user mode.
You're still bootstrapping the system.

In fact, during rcS.d runlevel will always exit with an error code; if
you happen to catch it before /var/run/utmp is created you'll get that
error - if you catch it after there won't be a runlevel record in there
yet, so you'll get unknown

I'm not entirely sure why you're grepping for we go into S from another
runlevel, going into the S runlevel (single-user mode) does not invoke
anything in rcS.d -- rc1.d is used to do that.  I could not find any
mention of apparmor in /etc/rc1.d

This also doesn't cope with another possibility, that you *boot* into
single-user mode.  In this case runlevel will output (after finishing
rcS.d and running sulogin)

   N S

ie. you entered single-user mode (the S runlevel) directly, without a
previous runlevel.

Now what happens if you enter rc2 ?  Your runlevel output will be:

  S 2

ie. you entered runlevel 2 from single-user mode.

(Booting directly into multi-user mode, you would get

  N 2

because you booted directly into it - you don't go via single-user to
get there)

It also occurs to me that this script is incredibly brittle anyway,
because it doesn't account for the fact that apparmor may fail to load
any profiles.

If that happens, you may end up looping forever in S40networking waiting
for apparmor profiles to appear.  I think this is what happened to Tim.

** Package changed: upstart (Ubuntu) = dhcp3 (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: dhcp3 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Triaged

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