[ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation - was Re: Artwork Team Logo - Submissions due today!
On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 10:33 -0200, Blau Araujo wrote: First of all, I apologize for not participating so actively in this discussion. Not only because my English is not good enough to develop full arguments, but mainly because I've had a season with many shows (I am also a musician in a blues band). Hi Blau, Thanks for bringing this up. You have raised an important concern here. (Though you mention it's not the only major factor preventing you in this task.) Language Barrier seems to be a very common concern. As the maintainer of Humanity icon theme I have often been contacted directly by a few other members who have mentioned the English language as a barrier for participation. I have also noticed the same problem being mentioned in other mailing lists. Are there others on this Artwork mailing list who share the same concern? Is there *anything* that we can do to make it easier for everyone to participate actively? People are often using Google translate to better understand the task specs. Are the tasks clear to understand, directly or when you use Google translate? Kindly share your concerns. Do let us know if there is anything that can be done to help increase your participation. -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Debconf12 logo
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 02:39 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: Awesome job Thorsten, I love the debian swirl on the motmot. I hope you guys get debconf in Nicaragua! Thanks! :) Your swirl and flower concept is lovely, though it makes me think of an entirely different direction, geographically. As already discussed with Leandro, my draft will see a few changes and tweaks to finalize it. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation - was Re: Artwork Team Logo - Submissions due today!
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 10:33 -0200, Blau Araujo wrote: First of all, I apologize for not participating so actively in this discussion. Not only because my English is not good enough to develop full arguments, but mainly because I've had a season with many shows (I am also a musician in a blues band). Hi Blau, Thanks for bringing this up. You have raised an important concern here. (Though you mention it's not the only major factor preventing you in this task.) Language Barrier seems to be a very common concern. As the maintainer of Humanity icon theme I have often been contacted directly by a few other members who have mentioned the English language as a barrier for participation. I have also noticed the same problem being mentioned in other mailing lists. Are there others on this Artwork mailing list who share the same concern? Is there *anything* that we can do to make it easier for everyone to participate actively? People are often using Google translate to better understand the task specs. Are the tasks clear to understand, directly or when you use Google translate? Kindly share your concerns. Do let us know if there is anything that can be done to help increase your participation. -- Cheers, Vish Vish, Thank you for bringing this up and I agree 100%. Please do not let language be a barrier to participation. Best regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Team Logo Submissions (Thorsten Wilms)
On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 16:30 -0800, j_baer wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/TeamLogoSubmissions In my eyes only #14 and #17 are acceptable. #14 needs a little tweaking. The elements should be a bit thicker, just slightly more robust. There should be an imaginary circle at the center. #17 would have to be reduced to just one shape for the 14 (and 16?) pixel size. Note that I don't think we should bother about 14 and 16 px sizes too much. Having a blob of color that does not look like just any other blob of color is already an achievement at that scale. #37 is a good concept, but the differing treatment of the straight lines seems odd. The thin lines mean scaling is no fun at all. #26 and especially #25 are attractive, but not clear enough in their relation to our realm. All the thick brushes seem clumsy. The few splattery approaches don't speak of planning and precision. While artistic gusto could come in as an aspect, it can't be the dominant feature. As far as I'm concerned we are still open for submissions until at least 1st of February. I just edited the spec to actually list the Launchpad icon sizes (14, 64, 192 px, how could we miss that?). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0001_Artwork_Team_Logo -- Thorsten Wilms Thorsten, Thank you for offering your opinion but let's not judge or pre-judge submissions in this manner. I have my personal favorite as I am sure many on this list do. Best regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Team Logo Submissions (Thorsten Wilms)
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 05:35 -0500, John Baer wrote: Thank you for offering your opinion but let's not judge or pre-judge submissions in this manner. I have my personal favorite as I am sure many on this list do. How could an opinion come without judgment? I don't care about personal favorites. I care about what the logo should say, that it does say it, that it shows craftsmanship in execution. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended
Hello Everyone, The deadline to the new Artwork Team Logo project is extended to 2011-01-02 as some important new information has been added to the spec for your consideration. AFAIK flickr will retain the file format of your original submission and only convert to jpg other scaled versions. Sorry for the confusion :-), I would re-post your submissions in png format if that is your desire. Also, check your flickr permissions as I noticed some submissions are only viewable if I am logged into flickr. The fact team members have taken ownership of this project as evidenced by discussions on this list is great and IMO the best way to select the desired design would be a poll of team members. A poll would also permit the decision to keep the current logo. It is my sincere hope everyone feels this is an opportunity to contribute in a meaningful way and will do so. Again - If you have an idea, an opinion, or a suggestion; the best way to express it is by posting a submission. I would also consider new and different design choices if you have an idea in mind. Thank you for your participation. Best regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Deadline Extended
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 07:47 -0500, John Baer wrote: The deadline to the new Artwork Team Logo project is extended to 2011-01-02 (...) I messed up the date on the wiki and just fixed that. Like I said earlier, 1st of February, so 2011-02-01. Sorry about that. Being the one to propose that ISO format, it had to me getting it wrong, of course :} -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Flickr permissions
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 07:47 -0500, John Baer wrote: Also, check your flickr permissions as I noticed some submissions are only viewable if I am logged into flickr. That's strange, as I get to see the same 22 images, no matter if I'm locked in, or not. (I kept wanting to ask you where the much higher number of submissions you mentioned came from.) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation - was Re: Artwork Team Logo - Submissions due today!
Language Barrier seems to be a very common concern. As the maintainer of Humanity icon theme I have often been contacted directly by a few other members who have mentioned the English language as a barrier for participation. I have also noticed the same problem being mentioned in other mailing lists. Are there others on this Artwork mailing list who share the same concern? Is there *anything* that we can do to make it easier for everyone to participate actively? Maybe we can make up lists of people who can be contacted in case Google Translate is not enough to understand a message, or if one wants to post something but doesn't know English. For example, I might be a contact for Russian language. While I don't contribute in a really meaningful way, at least I monitor all activity on this list, and [hopefully] know English enough to understand others and be understood. By the way, where are LoCos in all this? They are supposed to handle language and cultural barriers, aren't they? Respectfully, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:56 +0300, Сергей wrote: By the way, where are LoCos in all this? They are supposed to handle language and cultural barriers, aren't they? Some LoCos do their own thing regarding artwork. That's fine and makes a lot of sense regarding language barriers and filling local needs, though doing it in a more visible way could make the Ubuntu artwork realm more attractive. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation
Talking about this, How can I know about the LoCos in my area? I mean, I visited http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ and in my country, (méxico) there says tha México is not aproved, and I like to contribute in my area. So, wahat can I do? or what should I think about this? *By the way, I´m new, My name is Larissa I´m from México and my hobbie is design and documetation, and I really like to contribute with UBUNTU.* * * *greets!* 2010/12/7 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:56 +0300, Сергей wrote: By the way, where are LoCos in all this? They are supposed to handle language and cultural barriers, aren't they? Some LoCos do their own thing regarding artwork. That's fine and makes a lot of sense regarding language barriers and filling local needs, though doing it in a more visible way could make the Ubuntu artwork realm more attractive. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- *Larissa* *Skype: Lariicsa* *...@lariicsa http://twitter.com/lariicsa* -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Larissa Laricci gritaantesdemo...@gmail.com wrote: Talking about this, How can I know about the LoCos in my area? I mean, I visited http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ and in my country, (méxico) there says tha México is not aproved, and I like to contribute in my area. So, wahat can I do? or what should I think about this? Hola Larissa! You can join the ubuntu-mx mailing list at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mx/ You can also drop by #ubuntu-mx at irc.freenode.net. BTW, where in México are you? There's a pretty active team in the Distrito Federal: http://ubuntudf.org/ Cheers, *By the way, I´m new, My name is Larissa I´m from México and my hobbie is design and documetation, and I really like to contribute with UBUNTU.* * * *greets!* 2010/12/7 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:56 +0300, Сергей wrote: By the way, where are LoCos in all this? They are supposed to handle language and cultural barriers, aren't they? Some LoCos do their own thing regarding artwork. That's fine and makes a lot of sense regarding language barriers and filling local needs, though doing it in a more visible way could make the Ubuntu artwork realm more attractive. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- *Larissa* *Skype: Lariicsa* *...@lariicsa http://twitter.com/lariicsa* -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation
Thanks, yeap I know that DF team, but my question is than in the principal page of ubuntu LoCo teams there says tha México is not aproved, how can I know about an official ubuntu team, in my case México? El 7 de diciembre de 2010 11:10, Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.comescribió: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Larissa Laricci gritaantesdemo...@gmail.com wrote: Talking about this, How can I know about the LoCos in my area? I mean, I visited http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ and in my country, (méxico) there says tha México is not aproved, and I like to contribute in my area. So, wahat can I do? or what should I think about this? Hola Larissa! You can join the ubuntu-mx mailing list at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mx/ You can also drop by #ubuntu-mx at irc.freenode.net. BTW, where in México are you? There's a pretty active team in the Distrito Federal: http://ubuntudf.org/ Cheers, *By the way, I´m new, My name is Larissa I´m from México and my hobbie is design and documetation, and I really like to contribute with UBUNTU.* * * *greets!* 2010/12/7 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:56 +0300, Сергей wrote: By the way, where are LoCos in all this? They are supposed to handle language and cultural barriers, aren't they? Some LoCos do their own thing regarding artwork. That's fine and makes a lot of sense regarding language barriers and filling local needs, though doing it in a more visible way could make the Ubuntu artwork realm more attractive. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- *Larissa* *Skype: Lariicsa* *...@lariicsa http://twitter.com/lariicsa* -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- *Larissa* *Skype: Lariicsa* *...@lariicsa http://twitter.com/lariicsa* -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Debconf12 logo
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 02:39 -0500, Saleel Velankar wrote: Awesome job Thorsten, I love the debian swirl on the motmot. I hope you guys get debconf in Nicaragua! Thank you! We'll do our best to win the bid! :) Thanks! :) Your swirl and flower concept is lovely, though it makes me think of an entirely different direction, geographically. Yes! The flower is great! Saleel... I think we will definitely use it for a LoCo related event... we'll talk about it another day! :) Thanks again to both of you for your contribution! As already discussed with Leandro, my draft will see a few changes and tweaks to finalize it. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 11:01 -0600, Larissa Laricci wrote: I mean, I visited http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ and in my country, (méxico) there says tha México is not aproved, and I like to contribute in my area. Welcome, Larissa! The team not being approved (yet) doesn't have to stop you from getting in contact. You will then see for yourself how the team runs and who knows, maybe you can help to move it towards approval, if that is found to matter. The following wiki page might shed some light on what approval means: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#Becoming%20an%20Approved%20Team Aside of that, consider to add your voice and contributions here, too, please :) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Larissa Laricci gritaantesdemo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, yeap I know that DF team, but my question is than in the principal page of ubuntu LoCo teams there says tha México is not aproved, how can I know about an official ubuntu team, in my case México? Ubuntu-mx is the official Ubuntu LoCo Team in México. In the Ubuntu community we have 'New Teams' and 'Approved Teams'. The teams are approved by the LoCo Council. Being an approved team means that the team is active and healthly by the standards of our community. It's like a reward for those teams who are really commited to the project. AFAIK, Ubuntu-mx is going for approval sometime soon... (?) You can learn more here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines Cheers, El 7 de diciembre de 2010 11:10, Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.comescribió: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Larissa Laricci gritaantesdemo...@gmail.com wrote: Talking about this, How can I know about the LoCos in my area? I mean, I visited http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ and in my country, (méxico) there says tha México is not aproved, and I like to contribute in my area. So, wahat can I do? or what should I think about this? Hola Larissa! You can join the ubuntu-mx mailing list at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mx/ You can also drop by #ubuntu-mx at irc.freenode.net. BTW, where in México are you? There's a pretty active team in the Distrito Federal: http://ubuntudf.org/ Cheers, *By the way, I´m new, My name is Larissa I´m from México and my hobbie is design and documetation, and I really like to contribute with UBUNTU. * * * *greets!* 2010/12/7 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:56 +0300, Сергей wrote: By the way, where are LoCos in all this? They are supposed to handle language and cultural barriers, aren't they? Some LoCos do their own thing regarding artwork. That's fine and makes a lot of sense regarding language barriers and filling local needs, though doing it in a more visible way could make the Ubuntu artwork realm more attractive. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- *Larissa* *Skype: Lariicsa* *...@lariicsa http://twitter.com/lariicsa* -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- *Larissa* *Skype: Lariicsa* *...@lariicsa http://twitter.com/lariicsa* -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr permissions
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 07:47 -0500, John Baer wrote: Also, check your flickr permissions as I noticed some submissions are only viewable if I am logged into flickr. That's strange, as I get to see the same 22 images, no matter if I'm locked in, or not. (I kept wanting to ask you where the much higher number of submissions you mentioned came from.) -- Thorsten Wilms I'm Flickr challenged : - ) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation - was Re: Artwork Team Logo - Submissions due today!
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Сергей shnat...@gmail.com wrote: Language Barrier seems to be a very common concern. Yes. The language barrier is a huge problem, and it seems a bit ironic to me as one of the core values of the Ubuntu Project is actually ...that software should be accesible to all... in the language of their choice. http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy As the maintainer of Humanity icon theme I have often been contacted directly by a few other members who have mentioned the English language as a barrier for participation. I have also noticed the same problem being mentioned in other mailing lists. Are there others on this Artwork mailing list who share the same concern? Is there *anything* that we can do to make it easier for everyone to participate actively? Maybe we can make up lists of people who can be contacted in case Google Translate is not enough to understand a message, or if one wants to post something but doesn't know English. For example, I might be a contact for Russian language. While I don't contribute in a really meaningful way, at least I monitor all activity on this list, and [hopefully] know English enough to understand others and be understood. It's just not about translations. It's more about process and tools. If you want to join a team, or go for Ubuntu Member, or get your LoCo approved, you *must* speak English. Ever wondered why successful LoCo Teams (such as ubuntu-it, ubuntu-fr or ubuntu-cat) don't have that many Ubuntu members or MOTUs? By the way, where are LoCos in all this? They are supposed to handle language and cultural barriers, aren't they? Yes, and some of us do. But the problem is when we want to 'push our work upstream' to the global community. All the process, teams and tools are English centric (maybe SU being one of the few exceptions). Respectfully, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation
ok. much relief!! Thanks Thor! so I''ll be contact them!! viva el softaware Libre :) 2010/12/7 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 11:01 -0600, Larissa Laricci wrote: I mean, I visited http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ and in my country, (méxico) there says tha México is not aproved, and I like to contribute in my area. Welcome, Larissa! The team not being approved (yet) doesn't have to stop you from getting in contact. You will then see for yourself how the team runs and who knows, maybe you can help to move it towards approval, if that is found to matter. The following wiki page might shed some light on what approval means: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#Becoming%20an%20Approved%20Team Aside of that, consider to add your voice and contributions here, too, please :) -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- *Larissa* *Skype: Lariicsa* *...@lariicsa http://twitter.com/lariicsa* -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Upstream Opportunity
Hello Everyone, If you are interested, I just saw this on OMG Ubuntu. GNOME 3.0 is coming in April 2011 and we are looking for YOU to help design a t-shirt that celebrates the GNOME 3.0 release! We will pick up to three winning designs and sell t-shirts (and possibly more!) with your designs at the GNOME Store http://www.zazzle.com/gnome for a limited time. Details: http://www.gnome.org/contest/ Cheers, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation - was Re: Artwork Team Logo - Submissions due today!
Hi Leandro, Thanks for sharing some of your thoughts. This has been a very interesting thread. Yes, and some of us do. But the problem is when we want to 'push our work upstream' to the global community. All the process, teams and tools are English centric (maybe SU being one of the few exceptions). While I empathize with your concerns, I'm not sure that this a solvable problem. Contributor materials and instructions can be translated, but for collaboration to happen, people have to share a common tongue. For centuries, this was Latin. Now, it happens to be English. It makes sense that Ubuntu (and other open source projects) would use the lingua franca of science, technology and business. It prevents misunderstanding and disagreements. For the past year or so, I've led a project that creates a backup program. I've received contributions from people in Italy, Russia, Poland, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Mexico. That kind of international collaboration would be impossible if we didn't all speak English. Google translate can only get you so far. It's just not about translations. It's more about process and tools. Perhaps there might be ways to mitigate the difficulties for those without English speaking members? Maybe the translation team could help LOCOs prepare their applications, for example. But language barriers aren't going away. There isn't any process or tool that can replace the need for people to communicate. Nor is it realistic for upstream to master all of the languages of downstream. Like most downstream projects, upstream tends to be idea heavy, and resource poor. I'd second Сергей's suggestion: Maybe we can make up lists of people who can be contacted in case Google Translate is not enough to understand a message, or if one wants to post something but doesn't know English. For example, I might be a contact for Russian language. While I don't contribute in a really meaningful way, at least I monitor all activity on this list, and [hopefully] know English enough to understand others and be understood. Having some sort of central resource would make the most sense. Is there a way to contact the translation team leaders and inquire if they could provide aid for downstream teams trying to prepare applications, patches, artwork, and proposals for upstream? Are there entities outside of Ubuntu who might be able to help with this challenge? Cheers, Rob Oakes-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Language barrier for Participation - was Re: Artwork Team Logo - Submissions due today!
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us wrote: Hi Leandro, Hi Rob! Thanks for sharing some of your thoughts. This has been a very interesting thread. Yes, indeed. :) Yes, and some of us do. But the problem is when we want to 'push our work upstream' to the global community. All the process, teams and tools are English centric (maybe SU being one of the few exceptions). While I empathize with your concerns, I'm not sure that this a solvable problem. Contributor materials and instructions can be translated, but for collaboration to happen, people have to share a common tongue. For centuries, this was Latin. Now, it happens to be English. It makes sense that Ubuntu (and other open source projects) would use the lingua franca of science, technology and business. It prevents misunderstanding and disagreements. Yes, agreed. But if someone wants to express him/herself clearly and fails to do so in English, would you mind that he/she posted something in Spanish (or German, Croatian, French...) to the mailing list? For the past year or so, I've led a project that creates a backup program. I've received contributions from people in Italy, Russia, Poland, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Mexico. That kind of international collaboration would be impossible if we didn't all speak English. Google translate can only get you so far. I'm admin of the ubuntu-l10n-es team and used to work as a translator and interpreter for many years... and trust me; having no translation is better that Google Translator. :) It's just not about translations. It's more about process and tools. Perhaps there might be ways to mitigate the difficulties for those without English speaking members? Maybe the translation team could help LOCOs prepare their applications, for example. But language barriers aren't going away. Yes, I'm aware of that. I'm not sure if there's an easy way to solve this... I'm just being part of the problem here:) There isn't any process or tool that can replace the need for people to communicate. Nor is it realistic for upstream to master all of the languages of downstream. Well... they could if upstream were more diverse. A couple of months ago, someone posted to the Planet a list of all of the members of the community governance bodies (i.e. all the Councils) and only a few came from non-English speaking countries. My question is: Why are there so few contributors/vocal leaders from outside the US/UK/Australia? Is language a barrier for people to step up? Are we missing valuable contributors because of this? Edit: Found the post! :) http://sensehofstede.nl/realise-native-english-speakers-are-privileged Like most downstream projects, upstream tends to be idea heavy, and resource poor. I'd second Сергей's suggestion: Maybe we can make up lists of people who can be contacted in case Google Translate is not enough to understand a message, or if one wants to post something but doesn't know English. For example, I might be a contact for Russian language. While I don't contribute in a really meaningful way, at least I monitor all activity on this list, and [hopefully] know English enough to understand others and be understood. Having some sort of central resource would make the most sense. Is there a way to contact the translation team leaders and inquire if they could provide aid for downstream teams trying to prepare applications, patches, artwork, and proposals for upstream? Are there entities outside of Ubuntu who might be able to help with this challenge? Cheers, Rob Oakes -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Backtestground wallpaper templates and utilities
Hi! About wallpaper templates and 2 utilities: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/backtestground/ These tools should help us with evaluating Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Lubuntu wallpaper submissions. Please ask if anything is unclear and don't hesitate to suggest changes and additions to the given explanations. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
CORRECTION:Re: Reminder: Kernel Bug Day Today!
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 09:24:31AM -0500, Jeremy Foshee wrote: Folks, This is a gentle reminder that today is the Kernel Bug Day focusing on bugs that have patches attached. Our goal is to close out all of the old bugs and work through the bugs that are relevant from an SRU or development standpoint. One major aspect of this effort will be to correctly identify and remove the indicator on those bugs that do not have valid patches. It seems I incorrectly identified this for bugs with patches (one of my work items for today) The correct focus should be the bugs tagged regression-update as identified in my previous e-mail on the subject as well as the bug day page on the wiki. Apologies for any confusion. :-) ~JFo I'll be available in #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-kernel on the Freenode IRC server if there are any questions. :-) Thanks! ~JFo -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Meeting Wednesday December 12th, 2010, 18:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:48:49 -0700 Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.com wrote: Subject: Meeting Wednesday December 12th, 2010, 18:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality Just a quick reminder that Wednesday (December 12th, 2010) we are having a regular QA meeting at 18:00 UTC at #ubuntu-quality. Chair will be charlie-tca. Agenda, so far, looks like this: * review previous action items (all) * SRU Report -- jibel * Bugday -- pedro_ * Any Other Business * Selection of new chair -- charlie-tca Please, add your agenda items, as usual, at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings Thanks, I apologize for this. My calendar got lost in the merges. The meeting will really be held on Wednesday, December 8, 2010 - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJM/qaTAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAFygIALAWIn1MC9UouVzHx2TpA4wR Q6niPxrWyKEH5IBRpr70wJK3f/U9NEV41iOp0P03wIhVXKQcgDTQJP6w8FM3EeLM WpoUQbxZ+wevGLP8Kv69WkqhD8MYmfBiPZm1E+o5JYLev59OrxC3JiP8rHgl1B5T AVXtIzkR0V8RESqbVFmO3dN7MHmYpmdhnWPiYq9EaCxn33VlRWDBOQTGGoQBwD/+ gijC/XGL+brBC/LiM7VpHZkMawTwjSfTRU99ToP0czPpORiw7sDkwHqAf4bPTGq/ wDhcm1zWZFRtWR7AVSP6nn0fnENRESgJ1izjiKvza7ddTbCh8vXzkyOK4uneX0U= =CnPB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Writing a mago test
I was looking at http://launchpad.net/bugs/675063 today and was wondering if this was something that we could test with mago. I wasn't sure about how to test the contents of a specific cell in gnome-sudoku. -- Brian Murray Ubuntu Bug Master signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: [ubuntu-in] Off Topic: Need help with LAN card Issue
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, nagendra prasad nagendra802...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, I know this is an off topic question, but I need to solve it. So, the issue is I have a laptop which I use to download stuff. The issue is when sometimes the power goes the LAN card automatically disables. And when the power comes back I manually have to again enable it. I am using XP. I have tried Googleing it but not able to find a solution. If anyone knows a tool or a setting I have to change or make please tell me. Goto Control Panel and search for LAN/Network icon. Many Dell laptops have this *feature* of disabling LAN ports when laptop is running on battery. I know weird. Next time, please send your mail to a proper list to get replies. How is this related to Ubuntu? Or PHP? or PHP-Windows? Even warez sites would be better than asking in a Linux or Programming mailing list for such questions -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] g77 not found
* * Dear all, I have Ubuntu 10.10 and I am trying to install a program om my computer (FLUKA) but I got this message: g77: not found I tried with *sudo apt-get install g77* but I've got this message:E: Package 'g77' has no installation candidate, Please help urgently required, Thanks in advance, -- - Abd Al Karim HAJ ISMAIL Belgium -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] g77 not found
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Abd Al Karim Haj Ismail abd.hajism...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I have Ubuntu 10.10 and I am trying to install a program om my computer (FLUKA) but I got this message: g77: not found I tried with sudo apt-get install g77 but I've got this message: E: Package 'g77' has no installation candidate, see http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1034133.html -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Off Topic: Need help with LAN card Issue
dear manish, though this is way off the topic, for your solution in XP !! - please look the way you have set up the power management. - sometimes in this, when you have something like super saver etc, it may disable the networking / LAN ports. - go into this power management (hopefully in the start programs folder. - then tweak it. I have a similar power managment application in lenova desktop - where it is similar - have 4 power options and one of them does the disabling of LAN by default (but it has also shows the checkbox, which I had unchecked now) - when I use XP. Now it works perfectly even in the super performance mode. hopefully this should solve your problem. with warm regards s.sivakumar chennai -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Acer AZ5700
J'ai entre les mains un Dell Vostro 3400 équipé du Core i3-350M, qui a sensiblement les mêmes caractéristiques, et il semble fonctionner très bien, toutefois, je n'ai pas testé à fond les capacités graphiques du décodage HD. Les pilotes libres Intel semblent très bien gérer ce jeu de puces. En gros, la différence entre cet assemblage et un autre ayant le processeur et le processeur graphique intégré à la carte mère, est qu'avec cet assemblage, le processeur et le processeur graphique se trouvent physiquement dans la même puce (mais demeurent 2 processeurs indépendants quand même), ce qui réduit les coûts de production. Le processeur graphique inclus est connu pour être de bien meilleure qualité que la précédente génération de processeur graphique Intel. Pour un usage de base Ubuntu (compiz, gnome-shell, etc...), tu devrais être satisfait, les performances seront bonnes. Pour un usage requérant une accélération graphique avancée (Savage2, etc), les pilotes Intel ne le permettent pas encore, même si le jeu de puces le permet techniquement, alors peut-être dans l'avenir... Note toutefois que tout ceci ne concerne en rien les capacités multi-touch de l'écran. Le bidule au demeurant semble de bonne qualité. Bon magasinage! Jean. Le 7 décembre 2010 00:42, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com a écrit : Après un peu de recherche, je me rends compte que toute la question de compatibilité tourne autour du processeur Intel Core i3-540, qui inclut les fonctions graphiques. Voir ici: http://www.homemedia.fr/tests-guides/185-Test-Intel-Core-i3-540-H55-Clarkdale-0.html J'ai pas l'impression qu'elles sont supportées par Linux, toutes ces specs. *Gilbert * * * Le 6 décembre 2010 11:03, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com a écrit : @Fabian et @Jean Merci d'avoir pris le temps de m'éclairer sur ce sujet. Ça m'aide à me faire une idée. Que l'écran tactile ne soit pas pleinement fonctionnel dans l'immédiat n'est pas une priorité pour moi. Je serais prêt à patienter et à voir évoluer Utouch au cours des prochaines années. Mais même sans ça, l'appareil est tentant: le design (moins réussi que le iMac cependant), la dimension de l'écran, la carte graphique (Intel HD Graphics), la carte TV Tuner, le graveur Blu-ray multicouche, etc.) *Gilbert* Le 6 décembre 2010 10:13, Jean Levasseur levasseur.j...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour Gilbert, désolé si ma réponse concise t'a déboussolé un peu, je n'avais que très peu de temps et je répondrais à partir de mon iPod Touch, il m'étais donc compliqué d'élaborer sur le sujet, toutefois je voulais au moins te donner un indice, une piste de solution et répondre à la question Ce qui faisait croire que ça pouvais marcher à partir de 11.04. Le projet Utouch le fait croire, mais comme le précise Fabian, ça reste à tester sur l'équipement que tu compte acheter. D'ailleurs, garde en tête que ce projet en est à ses premiers balbutiements et que le développement en est très, très actif à ce moment, ce qui laisse croire que beaucoup d'améliorations verront le jour avant l'arrivée de ce projet à maturité. D'après ce que j'en ai compris, le projet débutera sa carrière avec Ubuntu 11.04, mais comme plusieurs autres projets (dont Unity), ils sont intégrés dans la distribution très tôt (certains diront trop tôt), alors il est possible que le support ne soit pas parfait au début, mais bon, le chemin vers l'excellence est parfois long et tortueux! Je seconde Fabian dans sa suggestion de faire l'essai en magasin avant d'acheter, avec Unity, et possiblement avec possibilité d'être connecté à internet afin d'installer dans la session live les pilotes propriétaires. Voilà, bon magasinage! Jean Levasseur (aka foxmike). Le 5 décembre 2010 21:39, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 5 décembre 2010 20:45, Jean Levasseur levasseur.j...@gmail.com a écrit : Utouch Juste ce mot? Je me risque à interpréter: Utouch prend en charge tous les écrans tactiles y compris celui-ci sans souci? gilbert Le 2010-12-05 à 01:23, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 4 décembre 2010 21:46, FireWave firew...@free.fr a écrit : Tout semble indiquer que la version 11.04 le fera. Qu'est-ce qui te fait dire cela? (en deux ou trois mots) Gilbert -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Changement d'adresse IP après mise e n veille
Non, ca me fait dire qu'il s'agit d'un bug. Pourrais-tu en envoyer un rapport sur lauchpad? Le 2010-12-06 23:17, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com a écrit : -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Changement d'adresse IP après mise en veille
Le 7 décembre 2010 10:16, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com a écrit : Non, ca me fait dire qu'il s'agit d'un bug. Pourrais-tu en envoyer un rapport sur lauchpad? Il faut que tu me rappelles comment on fait... Gilbert -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Changement d'adresse IP après mise e n veille
Le 7 décembre 2010 10:23, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 7 décembre 2010 10:16, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com a écrit : Non, ca me fait dire qu'il s'agit d'un bug. Pourrais-tu en envoyer un rapport sur lauchpad? Il faut que tu me rappelles comment on fait... Gilbert https://bugs.launchpad.net/ Tu te logue avec ton compte launchpad et tu ajoute le bogue. L'important c'est de bien choisir le paquet concerné (NetworkManager) et de bien décrire le bogue -- David Tremblay mob: 418-208-3631 jabber: ict4ngo skype : ict4ngo -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Changement d'adresse IP après mise en veille
Bon, je vais passer pour le nul que je suis, mais sur launchpad, je trouve le bug tracker, mais pas l'endroit où je pourrais *ajouter* un bug. Misère. *Gilbert * * * Le 7 décembre 2010 14:47, David Tremblay da...@ngowiki.net a écrit : Le 7 décembre 2010 10:23, Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 7 décembre 2010 10:16, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com a écrit : Non, ca me fait dire qu'il s'agit d'un bug. Pourrais-tu en envoyer un rapport sur lauchpad? Il faut que tu me rappelles comment on fait... Gilbert https://bugs.launchpad.net/ Tu te logue avec ton compte launchpad et tu ajoute le bogue. L'important c'est de bien choisir le paquet concerné (NetworkManager) et de bien décrire le bogue -- David Tremblay mob: 418-208-3631 jabber: ict4ngo skype : ict4ngo -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Changement d'adresse IP après mise en veille
2010/12/6 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com Bonjour, Est-ce normal? Lorsque je mets en veille mon portable puis que je le réveille, l'adresse IP du Wi-fi n'est plus celle de mon réseau domestique, soit 168.192.0.xxx, mais celle-ci: 10.42.43.1. L'applet du Wi-FI me dit que je suis branché sur mon réseau, mais je n'ai pas d'accès à internet. Je dois me déconnecter et me reconnecte pour retrouver mon IP habituel et mon accès à Internet. Cette situation vous est-elle connue? Bonjour, Mise en veille ou hibernation? De plus, l'adresse IP *10.42.43.1* est celle utilisée par Network Manager lorsqu'on configure une nouvelle connexion réseau de type Partagé avec d'autres ordinateurs. NM se sert de ce pool d'adresses pour redistribuer un accès réseau à d'autres ordinateurs, dans un ordinateur disposant de deux cartes réseau. Si tu as configuré une seconde connexion réseau de type Partagé avec d'autres ordinateurs, assure-toi que cette autre connexion a la case *Connecter automatiquement* *dé*cochée. Parce que ça me fait penser à une mise en hibernation (donc, mise hors-tension de tous les périphériques) puis, au redémarrage, une définition de connexion réseau paramétrée à Partagé avec d'autres ordinateurs prend le dessus automatiquement lors de l'établissement d'un lien réseau. -- Alexandre P. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Changement d'adresse IP après mise en veille
Le 7 décembre 2010 21:12, Alexandre Patenaude alexandre.patena...@gmail.com a écrit : 2010/12/6 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com Bonjour, Est-ce normal? Lorsque je mets en veille mon portable puis que je le réveille, l'adresse IP du Wi-fi n'est plus celle de mon réseau domestique, soit 168.192.0.xxx, mais celle-ci: 10.42.43.1. L'applet du Wi-FI me dit que je suis branché sur mon réseau, mais je n'ai pas d'accès à internet. Je dois me déconnecter et me reconnecte pour retrouver mon IP habituel et mon accès à Internet. Cette situation vous est-elle connue? Bonjour, Mise en veille ou hibernation? De plus, l'adresse IP *10.42.43.1* est celle utilisée par Network Manager lorsqu'on configure une nouvelle connexion réseau de type Partagé avec d'autres ordinateurs. NM se sert de ce pool d'adresses pour redistribuer un accès réseau à d'autres ordinateurs, dans un ordinateur disposant de deux cartes réseau. Si tu as configuré une seconde connexion réseau de type Partagé avec d'autres ordinateurs, assure-toi que cette autre connexion a la case *Connecter automatiquement* *dé*cochée. Parce que ça me fait penser à une mise en hibernation (donc, mise hors-tension de tous les périphériques) puis, au redémarrage, une définition de connexion réseau paramétrée à Partagé avec d'autres ordinateurs prend le dessus automatiquement lors de l'établissement d'un lien réseau. Alexandre, C'est réellement une mise en veille. Merci pour les explications concernant l'adresse IP 10.42.43.1. Tu as raison, concernant la connexion «Partagé avec d'autres utilisateurs». Je ne sais pas pourquoi c'était configuré ainsi (dans Paramètres IPV4), je ne me souviens pas avoir touché à ça. Mais bon, c'était ça le problème. J'ai changé pour Automatique (DHCP) et ainsi, le retour de mise en veille se passe bien. Pour tester, j'ai remis «Partagé avec d'autres ordinateurs», et aussitôt appliqué, NM se débranche du réseau domestique et reprend l'adresse 10.42.43.1. Faut croire que la mise en veille suffit pour déconnecter l'ordi du réseau. En tout cas, merci! Gilbert -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Changement d'adresse IP après mise en veille
Le Mar 7 décembre 2010 21:00, Gilbert Dion a écrit : Bon, je vais passer pour le nul que je suis, mais sur launchpad, je trouve le bug tracker, mais pas l'endroit où je pourrais *ajouter* un bug. Misère. *Gilbert * Essaie https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ et/ou https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net Je suis bien d'accord avec toi: ça ne me semble pas, à première vue, absolument évident comment on crée un rapport de bogues ... salutations amicales et linuxiennes, Gérard -- Internet Explorer 8 bugs: 64 bugs so far http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/MSIE8Bugs/ Internet Explorer 7 bugs: 188 bugs so far http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/MSIE7Bugs/ Contributions to the CSS 2.1 test suite http://www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/css21testsuite/ Guide d'utilisateur de KompoZer http://www.gtalbot.org/NvuSection/GuideUtilisateurNvu/GuideNvuSection1.html -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Changement d'adresse IP après mise en veille
Le 7 décembre 2010 22:31, Gérard Talbot kubu...@gtalbot.org a écrit : Le Mar 7 décembre 2010 21:00, Gilbert Dion a écrit : Bon, je vais passer pour le nul que je suis, mais sur launchpad, je trouve le bug tracker, mais pas l'endroit où je pourrais *ajouter* un bug. Misère. *Gilbert * Essaie https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ et/ou https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net Je suis bien d'accord avec toi: ça ne me semble pas, à première vue, absolument évident comment on crée un rapport de bogues ... Mon erreur c'était de m'être connecté à bugs.launchpad.net plutôt qu'à bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu. Sur le premier site, il n'y a pas de lien «Report a bug», comme sur la page d'Ubuntu. J'ai mis tout ça en signet, là. Merci. Par contre, je n'utiliserai pas ce service, car suivant les explications d'Alexandre P, j'ai corrigé le problème. Gilbert -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Changement d'adresse IP après mise en veille
Tout ça pour rien. Mon laptop est mort. Y s'allume plus. Je sais pas pourquoi. Snif. gilbert -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband usage meter
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:49 +, Avi Greenbury wrote: The situation my dad ended up with is to rely on BT's warning email at 80% of usage, and bear the cap in mind during the month. If you have an online account with BT they now have a Broadband usage monitor - I think its updated daily. You can find it in the Broadband section of the online servicing website. -- James Page Software Engineer, Ubuntu Server Team signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband usage meter
On 07/12/2010 08:15, James Page wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:49 +, Avi Greenbury wrote: The situation my dad ended up with is to rely on BT's warning email at 80% of usage, and bear the cap in mind during the month. If you have an online account with BT they now have a Broadband usage monitor - I think its updated daily. You can find it in the Broadband section of the online servicing website. Yes they do. I'm using a meter on my Windows machine in order to monitor what sort of activity uses the most bandwidth and wanted to compare usage on my Linux machine. ( you'd be amazed at how much bandwidth is used by online forums for example...) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:48 +, Joe Metcalfe wrote: The main difficulties I have had in reading MS files on Linux is with MS Publisher (though I don't have Publisher in my Windows copy of MS Office either!) and with macros in PowerPoint (dynamic content in 3rd part educational files). Joe MS Publisher files can be sort of converted if you can spare half an hour of fiddling around per file and the result isn't marvellous; macros in any part of the MS Office suite don't open properly in OOo. MS Access is relied upon by much of the UK voluntary sector and it doesn't migrate. PaintShop files are a pain too and most Windows users have various proprietary Windows platform apps which don't migrate formats at all and don't run properly on WINE. However, I agree with the general point that most Windows users face bigger limitations on what proprietary formats they can open without buying every proprietary app on the planet (given that Linux at least favours open standards). It's probably about 80% perception but there's still maybe 20% real migration issues to be dealt with. Windows users are strenuously trained to think of their OS as 'standard' and anything else as weird and troublesome (although one might easily see this as an actual inversion of reality). However, whilst many proprietary Windows formats do open without any issues on many Linux distros, users will still run into migration problems with mainstream formats which either don't convert at all or which require significantly technically-savvy intervention to migrate to Linux. Even setting up WINE is pushing it for the average mainstream Windows user - although it's like rolling off a log for experienced Ubuntu users. Most orgs are also going to end up with a peripheral or two that's a brick on Ubuntu. I've been doing hands-on FOSS advocacy in the voluntary sector for the best part of a decade and experience teaches me that it's a mistake to gloss over the real issues in migrating from any Windows OS to any Linux distro. What's important is to get across the concept of open standards and to help the user understand that it isn't Linux' 'weirdness' causing the issues but use of closed standards in proprietary software and to explain that once they have made a successful migration to Ubuntu, they will experience *fewer* issues with cross-compatibility in the future. For a proportion of Windows users, though, the barriers will honestly still be too high for their resources - at least for the time being. Especially users who rely on being able to open and edit proprietary apps send by Windows users. Although times change and organisations who once couldn't see their way to migrating are looking at it again in the current climate. When I'm advocating Ubuntu with voluntary orgs, I don't really refer to technical issues beyond giving them (what I consider to be) a sensible overview of real and imaginary migration issues - I focus, instead, on simplicity, resistance to slow-down and choking due to malware, community ownership (which really appeals), keeping the economy local, longevity of hardware, ease of installing peripherals, standardisation of software used for photos, scanning etc etc, ease of maintaining a properly-installed system for non-techies. And it's *pretty*! If you gloss over migration issues, you will forfeit trust when users do experience problems. I prefer to support people migrating with their eyes open and wait for the more nervous Windows users to go through the emotional and practical issues involved for them and their organisation in their own time. We'll be here when they're ready :) Paula attachment: face-smile.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
On 7 December 2010 11:50, gazz pmg...@gmx.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:48 +, Joe Metcalfe wrote: The main difficulties I have had in reading MS files on Linux is with MS Publisher (though I don't have Publisher in my Windows copy of MS Office either!) and with macros in PowerPoint (dynamic content in 3rd part educational files). Joe MS Publisher files can be sort of converted if you can spare half an hour of fiddling around per file and the result isn't marvellous; macros in any part of the MS Office suite don't open properly in OOo. MS Access is relied upon by much of the UK voluntary sector and it doesn't migrate. PaintShop files are a pain too and most Windows users have various proprietary Windows platform apps which don't migrate formats at all and don't run properly on WINE. However, I agree with the general point that most Windows users face bigger limitations on what proprietary formats they can open without buying every proprietary app on the planet (given that Linux at least favours open standards). It's probably about 80% perception but there's still maybe 20% real migration issues to be dealt with. Windows users are strenuously trained to think of their OS as 'standard' and anything else as weird and troublesome (although one might easily see this as an actual inversion of reality). However, whilst many proprietary Windows formats do open without any issues on many Linux distros, users will still run into migration problems with mainstream formats which either don't convert at all or which require significantly technically-savvy intervention to migrate to Linux. Even setting up WINE is pushing it for the average mainstream Windows user - although it's like rolling off a log for experienced Ubuntu users. Most orgs are also going to end up with a peripheral or two that's a brick on Ubuntu. I've been doing hands-on FOSS advocacy in the voluntary sector for the best part of a decade and experience teaches me that it's a mistake to gloss over the real issues in migrating from any Windows OS to any Linux distro. What's important is to get across the concept of open standards and to help the user understand that it isn't Linux' 'weirdness' causing the issues but use of closed standards in proprietary software and to explain that once they have made a successful migration to Ubuntu, they will experience *fewer* issues with cross-compatibility in the future. For a proportion of Windows users, though, the barriers will honestly still be too high for their resources - at least for the time being. Especially users who rely on being able to open and edit proprietary apps send by Windows users. Although times change and organisations who once couldn't see their way to migrating are looking at it again in the current climate. When I'm advocating Ubuntu with voluntary orgs, I don't really refer to technical issues beyond giving them (what I consider to be) a sensible overview of real and imaginary migration issues - I focus, instead, on simplicity, resistance to slow-down and choking due to malware, community ownership (which really appeals), keeping the economy local, longevity of hardware, ease of installing peripherals, standardisation of software used for photos, scanning etc etc, ease of maintaining a properly-installed system for non-techies. And it's *pretty*! If you gloss over migration issues, you will forfeit trust when users do experience problems. I prefer to support people migrating with their eyes open and wait for the more nervous Windows users to go through the emotional and practical issues involved for them and their organisation in their own time. We'll be here when they're ready [image: :)] Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ I agree entirely; despite the tremendous amount of work in Linux; there are still many common problems with it: .pub files are very annoying, with the only real F/OSS program that even *attempts* to do a similar set of tasks not having an importer for such files. It does not help, either, that OpenOffice has had so much trouble lately, either; first the slow death of Sun Microsystems (which slowed development to a crawl, and increased the problems between the community and the 'offical' engineers); the takeover of Sun by Oracle (more or less stopping development whilst the project migrated) and Oracle's current tactics which led to the now very quickly developed (but only just about to show itself) LibreOffice. Microsoft Office's new XML files are causing a great deal of difficulty, on terms of engineering as well. Then we have other issues; a very common complaint for me when I migrate someone are the troubles with flash and DVD's and .mp3's. It is a serious problem that in order to install such functionality, one must install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and run the libdvdcss
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband usage meter
On 7 December 2010 08:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/12/2010 08:15, James Page wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:49 +, Avi Greenbury wrote: The situation my dad ended up with is to rely on BT's warning email at 80% of usage, and bear the cap in mind during the month. If you have an online account with BT they now have a Broadband usage monitor - I think its updated daily. You can find it in the Broadband section of the online servicing website. Yes they do. I'm using a meter on my Windows machine in order to monitor what sort of activity uses the most bandwidth and wanted to compare usage on my Linux machine. ( you'd be amazed at how much bandwidth is used by online forums for example...) I use vnstat http://humdi.net/vnstat/ which is a simple command line network stats. there are also some graphical frontends too http://sourceforge.net/projects/vnstatsvg/ http://www.sqweek.com/sqweek/index.php?p=1 hope this helps azmodie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 12:34 +, danteash...@gmail.com wrote: It is a serious problem that in order to install such functionality, one must install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and run the libdvdcss installation script. This problem is made less by activating the small amount of codecs that Canocial have licensed upon installation, Well, that's sort of why I tend to emphasise the 'social responsibility' aspects and provide as many channels to support as possible. Multimedia is less of an issue in the VCS of course, but it's easy when you know how and I was able to track this info down in Google pretty quickly when I migrated to Hoary (no restricted extras, installed all the codecs one-by-one following someone's kindly instructions). Ubuntu takes a little time to catch up with drivers and formats - mainly, I suspect, because these aren't shared with them by manufacturers in a timely fashion. I agree that mainstream users for whom multimedia and gaming are central to their computer use may find Ubuntu frustrating but there are many users for whom it's a minor activity around which they can easily compromise. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
danteash...@gmail.com wrote: When I started using Ubuntu, I spent weeks trying to find out how to get Flash, DVD's and other such rubbish to run, because whilst F/OSS extremists/purists hate to admit it, we are still, sadly, reliant on such technology. This is a little like saying because, whilst vegetarians hate to admit it, we are still, sadly, reliant on meat. Anybody who is a F/OSS extremist or purist will, surely, hold that principle above being able to watch flash videos or listen to music encoded in mp3. Personally, I'm not really that reliant on it; probably most of the reason I manage to avoid all this hassle installing proprietary drivers and codecs is because the large majority of what I do either involves free codecs and sensible software, or incredibly simple installers (like flashplugin-nonfree). I don't, for example, know how to get DVD video playing working under any Linux, because I've never really felt the need to. And I'm really not a FOSS extremist or purist; I'm just incredibly lazy. -- Avi. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
On 07/12/10 11:50, gazz wrote: (snip) I've been doing hands-on FOSS advocacy in the voluntary sector for the best part of a decade and experience teaches me that it's a mistake to gloss over the real issues in migrating from any Windows OS to any Linux distro. What's important is to get across the concept of open standards and to help the user understand that it isn't Linux' 'weirdness' causing the issues but use of closed standards in proprietary software and to explain that once they have made a successful migration to Ubuntu, they will experience *fewer* issues with cross-compatibility in the future. For a proportion of Windows users, though, the barriers will honestly still be too high for their resources - at least for the time being. Especially users who rely on being able to open and edit proprietary apps send by Windows users. Although times change and organisations who once couldn't see their way to migrating are looking at it again in the current climate. When I'm advocating Ubuntu with voluntary orgs, I don't really refer to technical issues beyond giving them (what I consider to be) a sensible overview of real and imaginary migration issues - I focus, instead, on simplicity, resistance to slow-down and choking due to malware, community ownership (which really appeals), keeping the economy local, longevity of hardware, ease of installing peripherals, standardisation of software used for photos, scanning etc etc, ease of maintaining a properly-installed system for non-techies. And it's *pretty*! If you gloss over migration issues, you will forfeit trust when users do experience problems. I prefer to support people migrating with their eyes open and wait for the more nervous Windows users to go through the emotional and practical issues involved for them and their organisation in their own time. We'll be here when they're ready :) Paula Neat. I do hope you are able to join the advertising team? -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 17:21 +, alan c wrote: Neat. I do hope you are able to join the advertising team? -- alan cocks Ubuntu user Wish I could - was intending to help out with the Wordpress site on Friday but just got sandbagged with 2 meetings on Friday :( Paula attachment: face-sad.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
On 07/12/10 20:19, gazz wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 17:21 +, alan c wrote: Neat. I do hope you are able to join the advertising team? -- alan cocks Ubuntu user Wish I could - was intending to help out with the Wordpress site on Friday but just got sandbagged with 2 meetings on Friday :( Nice to be so much in demand! Maybe drop in sometimes to tell some stories about Ubuntu in the real world? -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: Bug reporting
On 12/07/2010 12:33 PM, Asmo Koskinen wrote: r...@ubuntu-studio:/home/studio# apt-get install linux-lowlatency Näillä paketeilla on tyydyttämättömiä riippuvuuksia: linux-lowlatency : Riippuvuudet: linux-image-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) mutta ei ole merkitty asennettavaksi Riippuvuudet: linux-headers-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) mutta ei ole merkitty asennettavaksi E: Rikkinäiset paketit r...@ubuntu-studio:/home/studio# Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. Same here: ... The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-lowlatency : Depends: linux-image-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: linux-headers-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed ... apt-cache search linux-lowlatency linux-lowlatency - Complete Lowlatency Linux kernel linux-lowlatency-pae - Complete Lowlatency Linux kernel linux-headers-2.6.37-8-lowlatency - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.37 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-2.6.37-8-lowlatency-pae - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.37 on x86 linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.37 on x86/x86_64 linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency-pae - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.37 on x86 Ubuntustudio natty x86, Virtualbox -- ailo -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Bug reporting
Interesting. I installed mine in a Virtual Box as well on x86_64. I did have a studio font package corruption but I cleared the cache and re-downloaded everything and it worked fine. --Tim On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 13:56 +0100, ailo wrote: On 12/07/2010 12:33 PM, Asmo Koskinen wrote: r...@ubuntu-studio:/home/studio# apt-get install linux-lowlatency Näillä paketeilla on tyydyttämättömiä riippuvuuksia: linux-lowlatency : Riippuvuudet: linux-image-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) mutta ei ole merkitty asennettavaksi Riippuvuudet: linux-headers-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) mutta ei ole merkitty asennettavaksi E: Rikkinäiset paketit r...@ubuntu-studio:/home/studio# Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. Same here: ... The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-lowlatency : Depends: linux-image-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: linux-headers-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed ... apt-cache search linux-lowlatency linux-lowlatency - Complete Lowlatency Linux kernel linux-lowlatency-pae - Complete Lowlatency Linux kernel linux-headers-2.6.37-8-lowlatency - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.37 on x86/x86_64 linux-headers-2.6.37-8-lowlatency-pae - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.37 on x86 linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.37 on x86/x86_64 linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency-pae - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.37 on x86 Ubuntustudio natty x86, Virtualbox -- ailo -- *** Timothy Cook, MSc Project Lead - Multi-Level Healthcare Information Modeling http://www.mlhim.org LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothywaynecook Skype ID == timothy.cook Academic.Edu Profile: http://uff.academia.edu/TimothyCook You may get my Public GPG key from popular keyservers or from this link http://timothywayne.cook.googlepages.com/home signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Bug reporting
On 12/07/2010 02:05 PM, Tim Cook wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 11:02 -0200, Tim Cook wrote: Interesting. I installed mine in a Virtual Box as well on x86_64. I did have a studio font package corruption but I cleared the cache and re-downloaded everything and it worked fine. BTW: I started with the Alternative install, then added the -low-latency kernel then the studio packages. --Tim I had problems choosing ubuntustudio tasksels during installation (audio, video, plugins etc) Cant' remember which worked and which did not. Is there a version error for the x86 meta-packages? I installed linux-lowlatency manually: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.37-8-lowlatency sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency -- ailo -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Bug reporting
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:15 +0100, ailo wrote: I had problems choosing ubuntustudio tasksels during installation (audio, video, plugins etc) Cant' remember which worked and which did not. Is there a version error for the x86 meta-packages? I'm not sure what you mean here. I installed linux-lowlatency manually: I added the ppa through Synaptic and it works as advertised. --Tim -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Bug reporting
On 12/07/2010 02:24 PM, Tim Cook wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:15 +0100, ailo wrote: I had problems choosing ubuntustudio tasksels during installation (audio, video, plugins etc) Cant' remember which worked and which did not. Is there a version error for the x86 meta-packages? I'm not sure what you mean here. I installed linux-lowlatency manually: I added the ppa through Synaptic and it works as advertised. --Tim The meta-packages have version 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1 as dependency, but there is only the newer version 2.6.37-8.21~ppa1. apt-cache show linux-lowlatency ... Depends: linux-image-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1), linux-headers-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) Filename: pool/main/l/linux-meta-lowlatency/linux-lowlatency_2.6.36.8.10~ppa1_i386.deb ... apt-cache show linux-image-lowlatency ... Depends: linux-image-2.6.36-8-lowlatency, linux-firmware Filename: pool/main/l/linux-meta-lowlatency/linux-image-lowlatency_2.6.36.8.10~ppa1_i386.deb ... apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency ... Package: linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency Source: linux-lowlatency ... Filename: pool/main/l/linux-lowlatency/linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency_2.6.37-8.21~ppa1_i386.deb ... -- ailo -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Bug reporting
On 12/07/2010 02:40 PM, ailo wrote: On 12/07/2010 02:24 PM, Tim Cook wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:15 +0100, ailo wrote: I had problems choosing ubuntustudio tasksels during installation (audio, video, plugins etc) Cant' remember which worked and which did not. Is there a version error for the x86 meta-packages? I'm not sure what you mean here. ...and sorry for not being so clear the first time. About the tasksel's (if the term is correct), I was referring to the part of the Ubuntustudio installation where you pick from these options: 2D/3D creation and editing suite Audio recording and editing suite LADSPA LV2 and DSSI audio plugins Tone generation and editing suite Video creation and editing suite Anyway, I redid the installation and found that it was the last option Video creation and editing suite that caused the problem. I installed linux-lowlatency manually: I added the ppa through Synaptic and it works as advertised. --Tim The meta-packages have version 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1 as dependency, but there is only the newer version 2.6.37-8.21~ppa1. apt-cache show linux-lowlatency ... Depends: linux-image-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1), linux-headers-lowlatency (= 2.6.36.8.10~ppa1) Filename: pool/main/l/linux-meta-lowlatency/linux-lowlatency_2.6.36.8.10~ppa1_i386.deb ... apt-cache show linux-image-lowlatency ... Depends: linux-image-2.6.36-8-lowlatency, linux-firmware Filename: pool/main/l/linux-meta-lowlatency/linux-image-lowlatency_2.6.36.8.10~ppa1_i386.deb ... apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency ... Package: linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency Source: linux-lowlatency ... Filename: pool/main/l/linux-lowlatency/linux-image-2.6.37-8-lowlatency_2.6.37-8.21~ppa1_i386.deb ... -- ailo -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
software-center and remove vs. purge
Hi, I recently came accross the following brainstorm.ubuntu.com idea that discusses remove vs purge in softare-center: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24963/ and I would like to discuss it here. Let me briefly recap the difference between the two. The removal means that the content of the package gets removed from the filesystem. With purge the package content *and* the system config files (usually in /etc) will get removed as well. Some package will also do additional removal (like removing the mythtv-database content when purging mythtv-database leading to people losing data). This is not a easy problem and we need to carefully balance the needs to keep the UI simple with the needs to keep the system from accumulating cruft. There are good suggestions in the brainstorm entry. I think that while in 99(,9 probably)% of all cases a purge is fine the cost for the error in the remaining cases can be pretty high (consider someone spending a lot of time tweaking their squid.conf). So software-center errs on the safe side and defaults to remove currently. Its difficult to tell programmatically what is going to happen when the maintainer script is called with purge as this is a shell script. Our tools can estimate what amount of data the configuration file was using (and even if the user ever modified it or not) but not what additional steps the maintainer script will take (unless of course there is not maintainer script or no purge target in it :) That being said I think we should make it easy for the user to access the purge functionality both inside software-center and computer-janitor. For software-center I would like to add a option (File/Remove with configuration). A alternative solution would be to make purge the default and have a option File/Remove but preserve the configuration). What do you think about what the default should be? For most packages purge will be fine, its just the few ones where it isn't that I'm concerned about. For computer-janitor a plugin for packages that are removed but not purged sounds appropriate. Combined with some intelligence about detecting cases that a purge is harmless (like checking for purge as a target on postrm and checking if the configuration file was actually modified) we should get most packages right. With additional data like looking at what date the package was removed we can get the remaining ones right (i.e. if it was removed 3 month ago it probably is not missed by the user). Cheers, Michael -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: software-center and remove vs. purge
On mar., 2010-12-07 at 10:13 +0100, Michael Vogt wrote: computer-janitor. For software-center I would like to add a option (File/Remove with configuration). A alternative solution would be to make purge the default and have a option File/Remove but preserve the configuration). What do you think about what the default should be? Hey Michael, Being on the safe side by default seems to make sense, the issue then would be to clean the configuration of things you removed later on. I'm not sure the menu items are the best way because they are easy to miss and you not have an obvious way to get back to them. What about having a uninstalled but with configuration left category? It might not be useful enough to be a s-c category though, so what about having a menu entry clean configuration for uninstall package which would run the computer-janitor for you to do this task in this case rather? Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: software-center and remove vs. purge
Le mardi 07 décembre 2010 à 15:27 +0100, Sebastien Bacher a écrit : On mar., 2010-12-07 at 10:13 +0100, Michael Vogt wrote: computer-janitor. For software-center I would like to add a option (File/Remove with configuration). A alternative solution would be to make purge the default and have a option File/Remove but preserve the configuration). What do you think about what the default should be? Hey Michael, Sebastien Being on the safe side by default seems to make sense, the issue then would be to clean the configuration of things you removed later on. I'm not sure the menu items are the best way because they are easy to miss and you not have an obvious way to get back to them. I completely second seb on that, being on the safe side by default seems a sane thing. Now about the removing cruft option… What about having a uninstalled but with configuration left category? I'm not about that one, seems technical and reproduce what synaptic has. It might not be useful enough to be a s-c category though, so what about having a menu entry clean configuration for uninstall package which would run the computer-janitor for you to do this task in this case rather? I would rather agree with that part of the proposal: just have this menu entry to link to computer-janitor (or have a computer-janitor view in software-center to get it more integrated) for those users rather a technical category disconnected from the rest of removing cruft on my system. Cheers Didier -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: software-center and remove vs. purge
Hello Michael, thanks for the nice summary! Michael Vogt [2010-12-07 10:13 +0100]: Its difficult to tell programmatically what is going to happen when the maintainer script is called with purge as this is a shell script. Our tools can estimate what amount of data the configuration file was using (and even if the user ever modified it or not) but not what additional steps the maintainer script will take I don't think it's that easy. You can only do that with conffiles, but not with configuration files, or even data files in /var/lib (think about PostgreSQL -- purging will take your entire database into the void). I don't think this behaviour would be entirely unexpected, though. If you remove a database, then I don't think it's totally surprising that this also cleans up your data, but as you say for those 1% it's better to be safe than sorry. That being said I think we should make it easy for the user to access the purge functionality both inside software-center and computer-janitor. I like that idea, too. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: software-center and remove vs. purge
On 07/12/10 16:10, Martin Pitt wrote: Hello Michael, thanks for the nice summary! Michael Vogt [2010-12-07 10:13 +0100]: Its difficult to tell programmatically what is going to happen when the maintainer script is called with purge as this is a shell script. Our tools can estimate what amount of data the configuration file was using (and even if the user ever modified it or not) but not what additional steps the maintainer script will take I don't think it's that easy. You can only do that with conffiles, but not with configuration files, or even data files in /var/lib (think about PostgreSQL -- purging will take your entire database into the void). I don't think this behaviour would be entirely unexpected, though. If you remove a database, then I don't think it's totally surprising that this also cleans up your data, but as you say for those 1% it's better to be safe than sorry. That being said I think we should make it easy for the user to access the purge functionality both inside software-center and computer-janitor. I like that idea, too. Thanks, Martin Whilst the idea below has nothing to do with the technical side of things, I wanted to show my idea for how it would be done in the GUI. Here ( http://i53.tinypic.com/f437ma.png ) is a screenshot of my idea. It is similiar to the widget for Shuffle Control used in Banshee's toolbar. If you click on the right of the button, it would offer a menu, to select remove or purge. Then if you click on the left it would behave as a button and do the action. I am not proposing the wording I have used in the screenshot but rather the way to go about it :) -- Andrew -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Before starting work on something...
Hello everybody, I'm sure this happened to all of us already: you start work on something and notice that somebody else had already done the work. If a lot of work was involved, it's quite a waste of time and if work from new contributors is ignored that's a bit discouraging. Of course nobody really is to blame for that, it's a side-effect of working in a quite complex system. Still I'd like to encourage everybody to dive into http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities before starting to work on something. Sometimes you'll find easy bugs or patches you can fix with the same upload or if you're lucky you'll find somebody else who did the work already. (If you find bugs in Harvest, please file them - if you want to help out, you're very welcome. :-)) Have a great day, Daniel -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Reject mythtv 1:0.24.0+fixes27162-0ubuntu1
On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 17:06 -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote: Jamie: I was well aware of this being present but it's been that way for as far back as I can remember for libmyth* packages. With several of those libraries in question, the code is ffmpeg code that benefits from the performance enhancement. I would be happy to add an override and a note to Readme.Debian as necessary if that would suffice. ffmpeg actually ships with an override in place, and the same build system is used for the mythtv contained ffmpeg: lintian override shlib-with-non-pic-codeshlib-with-non-pic-code == The lintian overrides for the non-pic shared libs error messages is not really a matter of silencing lintian. The general idea is that the override would serve as an indication that we know about the error message and we're avoiding any bug reports or complaints by others about the errors. We are aware that this override is too strict. It should only cover the i386 architecture, as we know that the upstream build system will produce PIC libraries where necessary. Only architectures like i386 will be built non-PIC, mainly for performance reasons. -- Reinhard Tartler siret...@tauware.de, Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:08:55 +0200 The policy states that the issue must be discussed in ubuntu-devel@ and if -fPIC is not going to be used, then it be documented in README.Debian. You are following the process here, which is good. In looking at the comments in the bug[1] and the debdiff for 2:0.24.0+fixes.20101207.d3d2640-0ubuntu1 the issue is resolved for me AFAIC. Thanks for tending to it. Lastly, this isn't nearly as strictly enforced with other packages, chromium's ffmpeg based package has the same error: #lintian /var/cache/apt/archives/chromium-codecs-ffmpeg_0.6+svn20100904r58574+58998-0ubuntu0.10.04.1_i386.deb E: chromium-codecs-ffmpeg: shlib-with-non-pic-code usr/lib/chromium-browser/libffmpegsumo.so Perhaps, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be enforcing it more strictly. No -fPIC is a red flag and no supporting documentation in README.Debian leads to confusion and wasted time IMO. Since this was missed when chromium-codecs-ffmpeg was deNEWed, I have now filed a bug[2] for it. Thanks for pointing this out. [1]https://launchpad.net/bugs/684941 [2]https://launchpad.net/bugs/686638 -- Jamie Strandboge | http://www.canonical.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: changing the python default from 2.6 to 2.7
On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 07:05:03 pm Matthias Klose wrote: Tomorrow, Wednesday December 8, we'll change the default Python version in Natty from 2.6 to 2.7. Where did we do the assessment of the rebuilds done over the weekend that was decided on at the Release Team meeting? Scott K -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: changing the python default from 2.6 to 2.7
On 08.12.2010 01:30, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 07:05:03 pm Matthias Klose wrote: Tomorrow, Wednesday December 8, we'll change the default Python version in Natty from 2.6 to 2.7. Where did we do the assessment of the rebuilds done over the weekend that was decided on at the Release Team meeting? the rebuilds were done, and build failures fixed on the same weekend. you can see the remaining issues at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=python27 None of these are critical. I don't see any reason to delay this switch, although we still have to fix 2% build issues with these packages. We certainly will see issues with 2.7 as the default, but we won't see these without having 2.7 as the default. Again, a rebuild test with 2.7 as the default was done by Barry, so I think these issues are manageable. Alpha time is the right time to do that. Matthias -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: changing the python default from 2.6 to 2.7
On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 07:51:24 pm Matthias Klose wrote: On 08.12.2010 01:30, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 07:05:03 pm Matthias Klose wrote: Tomorrow, Wednesday December 8, we'll change the default Python version in Natty from 2.6 to 2.7. Where did we do the assessment of the rebuilds done over the weekend that was decided on at the Release Team meeting? the rebuilds were done, and build failures fixed on the same weekend. you can see the remaining issues at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=python27 None of these are critical. I don't see any reason to delay this switch, although we still have to fix 2% build issues with these packages. We certainly will see issues with 2.7 as the default, but we won't see these without having 2.7 as the default. Again, a rebuild test with 2.7 as the default was done by Barry, so I think these issues are manageable. Alpha time is the right time to do that. Your bug list is incomplete (see pykaraoke on powerpc for one example). Without a complete list (I've no idea what else is missing, but the number of new build failures on py* packages on http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ is noticably longer than your bug list). I agree we need to move forward, but I think we need to understand where we are first. It may be OK, but I don't get the impression it's been looked at very hard. Scott K -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Vraagje
Hallo, Wat doe ik, of anderen hier, als ik meen een fout in de originele Engelse tekst te hebben gevonden? Ik ben bezig met het pakket KmPlot en wel part 1. Hierin staat de tekst: KmPlot is a powerful mathematical plotter KDE, capable of plotting multiple functions simultaneously and combining them into new functions. Volgens mij moet dit zijn: KmPlot is a powerful mathematical plotter _*for*_ KDE, capable of plotting multiple functions simultaneously and combining them into new functions. Het woordje for staat in Synaptic ook in de kopregel van de beschrijving van het programma. In de verdere tekst staat het zoals hierboven is aangehaald. Wordt zoiets doorgegeven aan de originele schrijvers of wordt er niets mee gedaan? Ervan uitgaand dat wat ik heb gezien juist is natuurlijk. Met vriendelijke groeten, With kind regards, Mit freundlichen Grüssen, /*Jan Mussche*/ E-Mail: /jan.muss...@gmail.com/ mailto:jan.muss...@gmail.com -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
[ubuntu-ec] Invitacion Revista Fenix SL
Hola: Reenvio invitacion de una nueva revista de software libre, por Washintong Fierro. _ Cordiales saludos amigos/as de las diferentes comunidades y personas comprometidas en la difusión y construcción del Software Libre. Me permito realizar la cordial invitación para que juntos construyamos la revista de Tecnología de Software Libre y código abierto cuyo nombre es * ?Fenix?* que será editada por la Universidad Estatal de Bolívar, Facultad de Ciencias de la Educación. El Objetivo de la revista es que se constituya en una nueva propuesta comunicacional local, nacional e internacional, que busca promover, difundir e integrar nuevas ideas, conceptos y sobre todo destacar el trabajo tesonero de las diferentes comunidades y personas dedicadas a la construcción del Software Libre y código abierto. *Lineamientos Básicos para la recepción de los Artículos * - Los artículos deben tener como máximo 3 hojas y enviarse a la dirección de correo electrónico *revista_fenix @ ueb.edu.ec* con copia: wfierrosal...@gmail.com con el asunto ?Artículo Fenix ?, en el contenido debe ir el nombre del Autor o Autores, Fotografía, cargo o función que desempeña, Nombre de la Institución u organización a la que representa y Dirección Personal y Profesional, ciudad/país de residencia. - La cuenta de correo electrónico de donde se remite el artículo debe ser la de contacto del autor. - Los artículos deben enviarse elaborados en Openoffice Writer o similir. - El tema a tratar para los artículos es libre se deja a la imaginación del autor siempre y cuando abarquen la temática del *software libre y código abierto*. Como puede ser temáticas de: (Avances Tecnológicos, Hardware , Software, Programación, Educación, Proyectos, investigaciones, entrevistas, actualidad, ayuda, etc.) - La revista Fenix inicialmente pretende salir con una frecuencia semestral. - Fecha de límite de entrega del artículo 7 de Enero del 2011. CONTAMOS CON SU VALIOSO APORTE PASE LA VOZ _ Saludos Petrux-ec -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Status da bateria não sai de (est imando...)
Parabéns, De fato não é tão absurdo como parece a primeira vista. Você gostaria de Wikificar isso em nosso site de documentação? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ -- André Cavalcante Almada, Portugal Ubuntu User number # 24370 Quer saber sobre Open Source Software? http://sobreoss.blogspot.com Quer saber mais sobre Espiritismo? http://sobreespiritismo.blogspot.com Atenção: Este e-mail pode conter anexos no formato ODF (Open Document Format)/ABNT (extensões odt, ods, odp, odb, odg). Antes de pedir os anexos em outro formato, você pode instalar gratuita e livremente o BrOffice ( http://www.broffice.org) ou o seguinte Plugin para Microsoft Office ( http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/get.jsp). 2010/12/5 Mauro Risonho de Paula Assumpção mauro.riso...@gmail.com Bom consegui o meu email, que mandei para uma amigo lá na empresa que estava com o mesmo problema: Estou enviando este email para apenas FYI sobre falha de gerenciamento de energia no Ubuntu 10.10. Eu tive um problema semelhante com um acer aspire 3050, na época deu uns 9 erros, corrigi apenas 8 erros, mas se não arrumar todos comina na perda da bateria, o que foi que acabou acontecendo. Ela com o tempo acabou ficando inutilizável depois de 3 meses de uso + ou -, devido esta falha de ACPI. O problema está que o ACPI foi feito para SO Windows, então o kernel do linux, não entende diretamente, por isso há uma tabela de ACPI para cada Processador, mesmo que seja quase a mesma configuração, deve ser recriado. Eu fiz aqui no meu AMD do meu HP Pavilion 2114br, sei que na versão do Ubuntu 10.04 LTS amd 64 bit, funciona direito então penso em copiar a tabela DSDT do ACPI, rodando como Live e recompilar no Ubuntu 10.10. OBS: Não sei se faz diferença copiar de 64 bit para 64 bits ou 32 para 64bits. Não testei. Eu reparei que de tempos em tempos acontece da equipe core do ubuntu, não focar nas correções pois eles já sabe como fazer há uns 4 anos, mas sempre ocorre em versões não-LTS, aquelas de 6 meses. Jás as LTS (suporte por 3 anos), não ocorrem. Acho que é correria de entregar no prazo e este tipo de problema é bem específico e leva tempo para corrigir. Acho que todos desta lista tem por obrigação, enviar emails pressionando, por uma solução, mesmo sendo um produto opensource, pois é nada menos do que a BIOS e a bateria. Há alguns comandos para ver quantos erros tem sua DSDT da ACPI, segue: *Para ver o Status da Bateria em tempo real:* cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state *Informações detalhadas:* cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info *Alerta sonoro (se existir de fábrica)* cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/alarm -- Para verificar, você deve ter algumas ferramentas, para isso instale: sudo apt-get install build-essential bison flex-old Depois cat /proc/acpi/dsdt /tmp/dsdt.dat Para gerar um arquivo com o código da tabela, execute: iasl -d /tmp/dsdt.dat Isso irá criar um arquivo dsdt.dsl, que contém o código a ser corrigido. Em seguida, tente gerar uma nova tabela DSDT, usando o comando: iasl -tc /tmp/dsdt.dsl Se tudo der certo, ele irá compilar com 0 Errors, 0 Warnings, 0 Remarks e 0 Optimizations. Se você não conseguir compilar, terá que corrigir o código, até cumprir todas as condições necessárias do compilador. Para algumas dicas de como resolver os problemas em tempo de compilação, consulte este documento https://webmail.abril.com.br/owa/redir.aspx?C=57bf791536604ee1944db6b8152fed4fURL=http%3a%2f%2fforums.gentoo.org%2fviewtopic.php%3ft%3d122145 . As instruções estão em Assembly e C em alguns casos. Após a compilação, serão gerados dois arquivos, um com o nome DSDT.aml e outro com o nome dsdt.hex (ou algo parecido). Copie o arquivo DSDT.aml para o diretório /etc/mkinitramfs. Após, execute o comando: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) Feito isso, reinicie o computador OBS dos Resultados - O sensor da bateria funciona corretamente, mostrado o status da mesma. - O tempo de duração da bateria está quase tão bom quanto no Windows, mas é preciso mais testes para afirmar com certeza. Se quiserem mandar os arquivos DSDT para eu dar uma olhada, eu me interesso. OBS:Não me responsabilizo por toda e qualquer falha que ocorrer devido à estes procedimentos ou similares a este. --- Em 5 de dezembro de 2010 01:13, Sidney slin...@gmail.com escreveu: kk... essa do homem pra lua foi pra acabar! hauahahu Mas enfim, o Mauro só pode estar de brincadeira de falar que 'é simples'!! r r essa foi demais!! 2010/12/4 Andre Cavalcante andre.d.cavalca...@gmail.com 2010/12/4 Mauro Risonho de Paula Assumpção mauro.riso...@gmail.com Consegui resolver o problema. Parabéns Vou postar na segunda-feira, pois o artigo ficou na empresa e não tenho acesso aqui. É simples: Tem que fazer engenharia reversa do DSDT da ACPI em Assembly, descompilar a tabela,
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Thunderbird - Senha de acesso
O thunderbird não tem senha. Espera-se que o sistema em que estiver usando seja multiusuário, assim, quando a pessoa loga-se no sistema já forneceu as credenciais necessárias para usufruir de todos os aplicativos instalados alí. Se existe mais de um usuário para uma mesma conta, aí fica complicado, mas vocÊ pode estudar a opção -ProfileManager que lhe permite selecionar um perfil, assim quando alguem chamar o thunderbird tem de escolher o perfil adequado a sua funcao, mas isso não o impediria de acessar perfil que não é seu. O mais recomendado é criar contas distintas para cada pessoa e se as mesmas vão compartilhar a mesma conta pop (que descarrega fisicamente as mensagens excluindo-as do local de origem) então estabelecer um caminho comum de armazenamento fora do $HOME desses usuários e dar permissão a estes a esta pasta que foi escolhida. Conta do tipo imap não precisa disso, cada usuário usa conta que quiser, pois as mensagens sempre ficarão no servidor. []'s Em 6 de dezembro de 2010 11:35, Edson.Yahoo ecpor...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Amigos Segurança: Como criar uma senha no Thunderbird no Ubuntu 10.04, para tornar inacessível a pessoas não autorizadas? Abçs Edson = The Ubuntu Counter Project - user number # 31143 http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Estou tendo dificuldades para configurar alguns recursos extras com o Wine.
Sim, tenho uma sugestão para você. Quando criar uma instalação de uma aplicação no wine e tiver sucesso, pegue o diretorio ~/.wine e renomeie para ~/photoshop, e a seguir ? A seguir, você cria um um script para carregar o photoshop assim : $ sudo gedit /usr/bin/photoshop.sh - INICIO DO SCRIPT --- #!/bin/bash export WINEPREFIX=/home/$USER/photoshop echo carregando aplicativo a partir de $WINEPREFIX... wine start C:\\Arquivos de programas\\Onde\\o\\Photoshop\\estiver\photoshop.exe unset WINEPREFIX - FIM DO SCRIPT --- E dê permissão (sudo chmod a+x /usr/bin/photoshop.sh). Com o mínimo de conhecimento você cria um atalho para ele no menu/desktop do gnome. Qual a vantagem disso ? Na próxima vez que instalar outro aplicativo wine, voce repete o mesmo procedimento e ambas as instalações estarão isoladas uma da outra. É comum ao seguir orientações na web para fazer um aplicativo X funcionar no wine, essas instruções deixarem Y sem funcionar. Como eu já estou prático com o wine, então a gente vai aprendendo um bocado de coisas com o tempo. Eu já criei pacotes .deb do Internet Explorer 6 (maldito cmt.caixa.gov), do MSOffice (por favor sem julgamentos prévios) e de alguns aplicativos comerciais feitos para Windows para simplificar este procedimento quando tenho que replicar noutras maquinas. []'s e sucesso. Em 6 de dezembro de 2010 18:48, Thiago Duque de Alvarenga thiago.alvare...@hotmail.com escreveu: Cassei no google e no site WineHQ levei uma surra e consegui muita coisa, como rodar o photoshop, o dreamweaver e o the sims 3 mas não sei o que aconteceu que o dreamweaver parou de funcionar... e é só no meu computador, todos os outros 5 que fiz o mesmo procedimento (inclusive no meu trabalho) estão funcionando normalmente alguem tem alguma sugestão? ou conhece alguma lista de discussão da próprio wine? -- Thiago Duque de Alvarenga Técnico em Informática Thiago: -Ubuntu, delete windows and empity the trash. System_Root: -Yes me lord. Ser líder é como ser uma dama: se você precisa provar que é, então você não é. Margareth Thatcher -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Site NVU (Dreamweaver)
Nayane, Em 6 de dezembro de 2010 12:24, Nayane Lima - GMail nayanel...@gmail.comescreveu: Gosto não se discute, mas esse Aptana é reconstruir a roda! Tem que fazer tudo na mão, mas tudo bem, tem gente que é masoquista mesmo, gosta de ser, hehehehehehe Como disse, gosto é gosto!!! Editores como o DW têm muitas limitações. Eles são muito bons como quebra-galho, mas quando pensamos em uma páginas/designs de qualidade, nada supera o trabalho manual, ou melhor, os editores por código. Quem usa um editor de código, na verdade não está tentando reinventar a roda, mas obter um resultado final que jamais seria possível no DW. Entenda que, por melhor que seja a roda do DW, a mente humana ainda é muito superior na inovações e otimizações de código. Se quiser maiores informações sobre o assunto, pesquise por CSS e tableless. []s Ronan -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Estou tendo dificuldades para configurar alguns recursos extras com o Wine.
Rui Ogawa Atenção! Caso haja documentos de escritório anexados neste e-mail, eles poderão estar no formato ODF, um padrão aberto, gratuito e homologado pela ISO e ABNT. Para abrir e editá-los, basta baixar e instalar o BrOffice.org em http://broffice.org/download. Cansado de vírus, pragas virtuais, travamentos e falta de desempenho? Conheça o novo Ubuntu 10.10! http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 09:37, hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com escreveu: Sim, tenho uma sugestão para você. Quando criar uma instalação de uma aplicação no wine e tiver sucesso, pegue o diretorio ~/.wine e renomeie para ~/photoshop, e a seguir ? A seguir, você cria um um script para carregar o photoshop assim : $ sudo gedit /usr/bin/photoshop.sh - INICIO DO SCRIPT --- #!/bin/bash export WINEPREFIX=/home/$USER/photoshop echo carregando aplicativo a partir de $WINEPREFIX... wine start C:\\Arquivos de programas\\Onde\\o\\Photoshop\\estiver\photoshop.exe unset WINEPREFIX - FIM DO SCRIPT --- E dê permissão (sudo chmod a+x /usr/bin/photoshop.sh). Com o mínimo de conhecimento você cria um atalho para ele no menu/desktop do gnome. Muito legal a dica. Me parece que é esse o conceito de garrafas do CrossOver. Qual a vantagem disso ? Na próxima vez que instalar outro aplicativo wine, voce repete o mesmo procedimento e ambas as instalações estarão isoladas uma da outra. É comum ao seguir orientações na web para fazer um aplicativo X funcionar no wine, essas instruções deixarem Y sem funcionar. Como eu já estou prático com o wine, então a gente vai aprendendo um bocado de coisas com o tempo. Eu já criei pacotes .deb do Internet Explorer 6 (maldito cmt.caixa.gov), do MSOffice (por favor sem julgamentos prévios) IE empacotado em .deb... nunca imaginei que um dia veria isso...rsrs e de alguns aplicativos comerciais feitos para Windows para simplificar este procedimento quando tenho que replicar noutras maquinas. []'s e sucesso. Em 6 de dezembro de 2010 18:48, Thiago Duque de Alvarenga thiago.alvare...@hotmail.com escreveu: Cassei no google e no site WineHQ levei uma surra e consegui muita coisa, como rodar o photoshop, o dreamweaver e o the sims 3 mas não sei o que aconteceu que o dreamweaver parou de funcionar... e é só no meu computador, todos os outros 5 que fiz o mesmo procedimento (inclusive no meu trabalho) estão funcionando normalmente alguem tem alguma sugestão? ou conhece alguma lista de discussão da próprio wine? -- Thiago Duque de Alvarenga Técnico em Informática Thiago: -Ubuntu, delete windows and empity the trash. System_Root: -Yes me lord. Ser líder é como ser uma dama: se você precisa provar que é, então você não é. Margareth Thatcher -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Thunderbird - Senha de acesso
Ok, obrigado hamacker. Há algum outro cliente de email que faça isso o que o Edson perguntou? abraço, Gustavo 2010/12/7 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com O thunderbird não tem senha. Espera-se que o sistema em que estiver usando seja multiusuário, assim, quando a pessoa loga-se no sistema já forneceu as credenciais necessárias para usufruir de todos os aplicativos instalados alí. Se existe mais de um usuário para uma mesma conta, aí fica complicado, mas vocÊ pode estudar a opção -ProfileManager que lhe permite selecionar um perfil, assim quando alguem chamar o thunderbird tem de escolher o perfil adequado a sua funcao, mas isso não o impediria de acessar perfil que não é seu. O mais recomendado é criar contas distintas para cada pessoa e se as mesmas vão compartilhar a mesma conta pop (que descarrega fisicamente as mensagens excluindo-as do local de origem) então estabelecer um caminho comum de armazenamento fora do $HOME desses usuários e dar permissão a estes a esta pasta que foi escolhida. Conta do tipo imap não precisa disso, cada usuário usa conta que quiser, pois as mensagens sempre ficarão no servidor. []'s Em 6 de dezembro de 2010 11:35, Edson.Yahoo ecpor...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Amigos Segurança: Como criar uma senha no Thunderbird no Ubuntu 10.04, para tornar inacessível a pessoas não autorizadas? Abçs Edson = The Ubuntu Counter Project - user number # 31143 http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Thunderbird - Senha de acesso
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 11:30:41 -0200 gustavo ggusm...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, obrigado hamacker. Há algum outro cliente de email que faça isso o que o Edson perguntou? abraço, Gustavo Eu faria uma sugestão, pois creio que não haja esssa possibilidade nos clientes conhecidos... Por que não criar-se novos usuários e deixar os clientes independentes? Não seria mais prático? Assim não só as configurações de mail como todas as demais seriam exclusivas para cada user. nethell 2010/12/7 hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com O thunderbird não tem senha. Espera-se que o sistema em que estiver usando seja multiusuário, assim, quando a pessoa loga-se no sistema já forneceu as credenciais necessárias para usufruir de todos os aplicativos instalados alí. Se existe mais de um usuário para uma mesma conta, aí fica complicado, mas vocÊ pode estudar a opção -ProfileManager que lhe permite selecionar um perfil, assim quando alguem chamar o thunderbird tem de escolher o perfil adequado a sua funcao, mas isso não o impediria de acessar perfil que não é seu. O mais recomendado é criar contas distintas para cada pessoa e se as mesmas vão compartilhar a mesma conta pop (que descarrega fisicamente as mensagens excluindo-as do local de origem) então estabelecer um caminho comum de armazenamento fora do $HOME desses usuários e dar permissão a estes a esta pasta que foi escolhida. Conta do tipo imap não precisa disso, cada usuário usa conta que quiser, pois as mensagens sempre ficarão no servidor. []'s Em 6 de dezembro de 2010 11:35, Edson.Yahoo ecpor...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Amigos Segurança: Como criar uma senha no Thunderbird no Ubuntu 10.04, para tornar inacessível a pessoas não autorizadas? Abçs Edson -- nethell - Ubuntu user 24389 - Linux user 496632 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] netbook bom de Ubuntu?
Olá, Tenho um ASUS 1000H (já é um modelo antigo) e funciona muitíssimo bem com Ubuntu. Todos os dispositivos são reconhecidos e funcionam perfeitamente. Comecei usando o Lucid e agora uso o Maverick, ambos Netbook Edition. A bateria desse meu, de 6.600 mAh, quando nova, dura 5 horas com o wireless ligado. Na própria wiki do Ubuntu você pode obter informações detalhadas de questões de funcionamento de vários modelos de netbook quando rodam Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/NetbooksAbraços! * * *Marcelo Kannami Gimenez* Bacharelando em Informática Instituto de Ciências Matemáticas e de Computação - USP Membro da Sociedade Brasileira de Computação #21770 e-mail: gimenez [at] usp [dot] br e-mail: gimenez [at] grad [dot] icmc [dot] usp [dot] br e-mail: mkgimenez [at] gmail [dot] com msn: mkgimenez [at] hotmail [dot] com twitter: mkgimenez skype: mkgimenez - message from gmail - Em 25 de novembro de 2010 00:48, lino garcia gorgues lgorg...@gmail.comescreveu: To querendo comprar um netbook, todos os que encontro no mercado já vem com ruindows não quero... Gostaria de opiniões sobre configurações que rodam legal com Ubuntu. Aliás venda casada é crime, quero comprar o meu com linux -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] problemas video 3gp kubuntu 10.10
Olá pessoal, é o seguinte tenho aqui um notebook com kubuntu 10.10 e roda video 3gp onde a imagem é boa, mas o som aparece só ruídos, já no desktop com o kubuntu 10.10, o mesmo video não roda de jeito nenhum, já tentei verificar quais programas tem em um e não tem no outro, mas não descobri. A primeira coisa que me ocorre, é que o notebook foi instalado com o 10.10 final, enquanto no desktop foi uma versão que começou com o alfa e foi sendo atualizado. Já tenho instalado o libavcodec-extra-52, mplayer, kmplayer, medibuntu ativado. Alguém tem alguma idéia, do que pode tá acontecendo? Grato a todos. Aniceto -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Quando minimiza os progamas nao vao para a barra de baixo.
Ola pessoal, recentemente eu dei um computador para a minha namorada com o Ubuntu 10.04, mais tive que pegar ele de volta pois teve uns probleminhas no sistema. Antes nao dava boot, depois travava. Ai eu resolvi tudo i me surgiu dois problemas: O sistema não atualiza Quando aperta em Minimizar os progamas somem, nao ficam na barra inferior, ate mesmo quando vc abre nao mostra eles la. Oque eu posso fazer pra resolver isso? sobre as atualizaçoes o sistema axa, mais quando eu pesso para instalar ele da abre uma janela de erro disendo: Ocorreu um Erro Os seguintes detalhes estão dispóniveis E: Não foi possivel obter trava /var/cache/apt/archives/look - open (11: Recurso temporariamente indisponivel) E: Não foi possivel trancar o diretorio de download Oque pode ser isso? Abrass -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Quando minimiza os progamas nao vao para a barra de baixo.
Recomento que reinicie os painéis do Gnome para o padrão. Só atente-se para o fato de qualquer alteração que tenha feito será zerada e os painéis voltarão ao estado de quando instalado o Ubuntu. |rm| |-fr ~/.gconf||/apps/panel| Sobre a atualização, se tem certeza de que nenhum programa está usando os repositórios, apague o arquivo /var/cache/apt/archives/look com o comando: sudo rm -fr /var/cache/apt/archives/look Em 07-12-2010 16:25, Power220v escreveu: Ola pessoal, recentemente eu dei um computador para a minha namorada com o Ubuntu 10.04, mais tive que pegar ele de volta pois teve uns probleminhas no sistema. Antes nao dava boot, depois travava. Ai eu resolvi tudo i me surgiu dois problemas: O sistema não atualiza Quando aperta em Minimizar os progamas somem, nao ficam na barra inferior, ate mesmo quando vc abre nao mostra eles la. Oque eu posso fazer pra resolver isso? sobre as atualizaçoes o sistema axa, mais quando eu pesso para instalar ele da abre uma janela de erro disendo: Ocorreu um Erro Os seguintes detalhes estão dispóniveis E: Não foi possivel obter trava /var/cache/apt/archives/look - open (11: Recurso temporariamente indisponivel) E: Não foi possivel trancar o diretorio de download Oque pode ser isso? Abrass -- Ivan Brasil Fuzzer Bacharel em Informática Celular: (54) 8411-0111 - (54) 9917-1798 GTalk: ivanbra...@gmail.com Jabber: ibra...@jabber.org http://www.ubuntero.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Quando minimiza os progamas nao vao para a barra de baixo.
Deu um problema com o primeiro comando, abaixo o correto: rm -fr ~/.gconf/apps/panel Em 07-12-2010 16:30, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer escreveu: |rm| |-fr ~/.gconf||/apps/panel| -- Ivan Brasil Fuzzer Bacharel em Informática Celular: (54) 8411-0111 - (54) 9917-1798 GTalk: ivanbra...@gmail.com Jabber: ibra...@jabber.org http://www.ubuntero.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Quando minimiza os progamas nao vao para a barra de baixo.
Procedimentos realizados, caso resolvido! Muito Obrigado Ivan! Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 16:45, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.brescreveu: Deu um problema com o primeiro comando, abaixo o correto: rm -fr ~/.gconf/apps/panel Em 07-12-2010 16:30, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer escreveu: |rm| |-fr ~/.gconf||/apps/panel| -- Ivan Brasil Fuzzer Bacharel em Informática Celular: (54) 8411-0111 - (54) 9917-1798 GTalk: ivanbra...@gmail.com Jabber: ibra...@jabber.org http://www.ubuntero.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] [Off-topic] Hackeando TV Sony Bravia (TV com Linux)
Olá pessoal! Alguém já tentou hackear uma TV Sony Bravia? Comprei uma recentemente e vi que ela roda Linux. Procurei pelo google, mas ainda não achei um jeito de instalar um terminal, ganhar root, acessar via ssh ou algo assim. Alguém já chegou a brincar com algo parecido? Já viu algum site dando dicas nesse contexto? Valeu!! -- João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos Analista de Sistemas - Infraestrutura joaoolavo.wordpress.com -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [Off-topic] Hackeando TV Sony Bravia (TV com Linux)
Você, usando o Linux e entrando numa lista para falar de hackear?! Acho que isso é contra as regras da lista... Ou então entendi mau, minhas desculpas se estou errada. Nayane Em 07-12-2010 16:43, João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos escreveu: Olá pessoal! Alguém já tentou hackear uma TV Sony Bravia? Comprei uma recentemente e vi que ela roda Linux. Procurei pelo google, mas ainda não achei um jeito de instalar um terminal, ganhar root, acessar via ssh ou algo assim. Alguém já chegou a brincar com algo parecido? Já viu algum site dando dicas nesse contexto? Valeu!! -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [Off-topic] Hackeando TV Sony Bravia (TV com Linux)
Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 16:49, Nayane Lima - GMail nayanel...@gmail.comescreveu: Você, usando o Linux e entrando numa lista para falar de hackear?! Acho que isso é contra as regras da lista... Ou então entendi mau, minhas desculpas se estou errada. Entendeu mal sim, Nayane. O João está falando do termo hacker com o seu sentido original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker Innovation * Hacker (computing), a contentious term used for several types of person: o Hacker (computer security) or cracker, who accesses a computer system by circumventing its security system o Hacker (programmer subculture), who shares an anti-authoritarian approach to software development now associated with the free software movement o Hacker (hobbyist), who makes innovative customizations or combinations of retail electronic and computer equipment Considere o segundo e o terceiro sentidos listados acima, não o primeiro (que é chamado de cracker e confundido com hacker). -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [Off-topic] Hackeando TV Sony Bravia (TV com Linux)
ahhh bom, desculpem então. Em 07-12-2010 16:54, Xisberto escreveu: Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 16:49, Nayane Lima - GMail nayanel...@gmail.comescreveu: Você, usando o Linux e entrando numa lista para falar de hackear?! Acho que isso é contra as regras da lista... Ou então entendi mau, minhas desculpas se estou errada. Entendeu mal sim, Nayane. O João está falando do termo hacker com o seu sentido original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker Innovation * Hacker (computing), a contentious term used for several types of person: o Hacker (computer security) or cracker, who accesses a computer system by circumventing its security system o Hacker (programmer subculture), who shares an anti-authoritarian approach to software development now associated with the free software movement o Hacker (hobbyist), who makes innovative customizations or combinations of retail electronic and computer equipment Considere o segundo e o terceiro sentidos listados acima, não o primeiro (que é chamado de cracker e confundido com hacker). -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Tamanho mínimo partição
Boa tarde. Alguém saberia me dizer qual o tamanho mínimo de uma partição para a instalar de um sistema apenas com o / e com o swap ? -- Desde já agradeço, +++ Flávio de Oliveira Barros Manaus - Amazonas - Brasil Copiar é bom! Seja Legal Use Software Livre Ubuntu User number is # 28558 Linux Registered User# 278223 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [Off-topic] Hackeando TV Sony Bravia (TV com Linux)
2010/12/7 Xisberto xisbe...@gmail.com Você, usando o Linux e entrando numa lista para falar de hackear?! Acho Entendeu mal sim, Nayane. O João está falando do termo hacker com o seu sentido original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker Isso, Xisberto ;) Nayane, hacker gosta de futucar as coisas, de sair tentando achar uma brecha nas ferramentas eletrônicas, às vezes só para dizer que conseguiu (além de se divertir), sem que isso traga necessariamente algum benefício. Se nessas aventuras ainda conseguir rodar, por exemplo, um navegador em uma TV que não libera o acesso indiscriminado a qualquer site (só os parceiros), aí sim eh uma grande vitória. -- João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos Analista de Sistemas - Infraestrutura joaoolavo.wordpress.com -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Tamanho mínimo partição
Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 18:04, Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.comescreveu: Boa tarde. Alguém saberia me dizer qual o tamanho mínimo de uma partição para a instalar de um sistema apenas com o / e com o swap ? Não entendi exatamente o que você quer saber. O tamanho mínimo possível para a swap? O tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema? Outra coisa? -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Tamanho mínimo partição
Realmente compliquei o meio de campo. Mas seria o tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema. Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 17:13, Xisberto xisbe...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 18:04, Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde. Alguém saberia me dizer qual o tamanho mínimo de uma partição para a instalar de um sistema apenas com o / e com o swap ? Não entendi exatamente o que você quer saber. O tamanho mínimo possível para a swap? O tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema? Outra coisa? -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Desde já agradeço, +++ Flávio de Oliveira Barros Manaus - Amazonas - Brasil Copiar é bom! Seja Legal Use Software Livre Ubuntu User number is # 28558 Linux Registered User# 278223 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Tamanho mínimo partição
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 17:18:39 -0400 Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.com wrote: Realmente compliquei o meio de campo. Mas seria o tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema. Eu utilizo um CF de 8G com o 10.04. Acho que menos que isso compromete o sistema. Não crie a swap, deixe os 8G sem particionamento, escolha a opção maior espaço livre e a instalação determina o tamanho ideal para ela de acordo com o espaço. nethell Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 17:13, Xisberto xisbe...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 18:04, Flávio Barros flaviobar...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde. Alguém saberia me dizer qual o tamanho mínimo de uma partição para a instalar de um sistema apenas com o / e com o swap ? Não entendi exatamente o que você quer saber. O tamanho mínimo possível para a swap? O tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema? Outra coisa? -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Desde já agradeço, +++ Flávio de Oliveira Barros Manaus - Amazonas - Brasil Copiar é bom! Seja Legal Use Software Livre Ubuntu User number is # 28558 Linux Registered User# 278223 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- nethell - Ubuntu user 24389 - Linux user 496632 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [Off-topic] Hackeando TV Sony Bravia (TV com Linux)
Receio que isso nao seja possivel com produtos Sony. O historico com outros produtos da Sony eh totalmente negativo com relacao a essa possibilidade. Foi assim com o PS2, PSP e eh hoje com o PS3. A Sony, anos atras, esmagou/sufocou uma pequena comunidade emergente de desenvolvedoredes de aplicativos e utilitarios HomeBrew com tudo que era tipo de facilidade para PSP jogos, calculadoras, etc. A medida em que uma brecha eh descoberta, a proxima versao do software firmware do equipamento, bloqueia a brecha. Para utilizar uma nova funcionalidade ou jogo do produto, vc eh obrigado a fazer o update online do firmware. :-( O mesmo ocorre com o PS3, atualmente: http://www.dashhacks.com/articles/geohot-do-not-update-ps3-321 http://www.be-mine.info/tag/sony-bravia-firmware-hack De qualquer forma, mesmo assim se alguem quiser futucar, uma primeira ideia eh tentar analisar codigo-objeto do firmware, com a ajuda de alguem que tenha experiencia nisso. Seria uma primeira ideia. A coisa fica pior considerando a tendencia de versoes de TV com o console de jogo embutido, o que jah ocorre com o PS2 numa versao da Bravia. Para a Sony, brechas significam um primeiro passo para o suporte a jogos piratas, o que hoje nao eh possivel com o PS3. Isamar 2010/12/7 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos joaool...@gmail.com: 2010/12/7 Xisberto xisbe...@gmail.com Você, usando o Linux e entrando numa lista para falar de hackear?! Acho Entendeu mal sim, Nayane. O João está falando do termo hacker com o seu sentido original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker Isso, Xisberto ;) Nayane, hacker gosta de futucar as coisas, de sair tentando achar uma brecha nas ferramentas eletrônicas, às vezes só para dizer que conseguiu (além de se divertir), sem que isso traga necessariamente algum benefício. Se nessas aventuras ainda conseguir rodar, por exemplo, um navegador em uma TV que não libera o acesso indiscriminado a qualquer site (só os parceiros), aí sim eh uma grande vitória. -- João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos Analista de Sistemas - Infraestrutura joaoolavo.wordpress.com -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Isamar Maia Cel. VIVO SSA: (55) 71-9146-8575 Cel. TIM SSA: (55) 71-9185-5264 Fixo: (55) 71-4062-8688 日本: +81-(0)3-4550-1212 Skype ID: isamar.maia -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Tamanho mínimo partição
Interessante, vou entrar nesse papo, acho que interessa a todos... Eu tenho um hd de 512 gb Meu Swap deixei com apenas 3 gb, acho que nem deveria cria-lo porque tenho 4 gb de ram Só pra ter uma ideia, uma vez fui verificar quanto tava usando de swap, e era informado 0 (zero). Aqui o meu Ubuntu 10.10 é uma bala, num chega nem a piscar.. Tudo funcionando bem, graças a Deus! Criei um swap só para um dia que eu for trabalhar com gráficos pesado não ficar lento. O que vocês acham disso? Será que posso melhorar mais (aumentar, diminuir ou tirar o swap)? Nayane Em 07-12-2010 18:34, nethell escreveu: On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 17:18:39 -0400 Flávio Barrosflaviobar...@gmail.com wrote: Realmente compliquei o meio de campo. Mas seria o tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema. Eu utilizo um CF de 8G com o 10.04. Acho que menos que isso compromete o sistema. Não crie a swap, deixe os 8G sem particionamento, escolha a opção maior espaço livre e a instalação determina o tamanho ideal para ela de acordo com o espaço. nethell Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 17:13, Xisbertoxisbe...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 18:04, Flávio Barrosflaviobar...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde. Alguém saberia me dizer qual o tamanho mínimo de uma partição para a instalar de um sistema apenas com o / e com o swap ? Não entendi exatamente o que você quer saber. O tamanho mínimo possível para a swap? O tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema? Outra coisa? -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Desde já agradeço, +++ Flávio de Oliveira Barros Manaus - Amazonas - Brasil Copiar é bom! Seja Legal Use Software Livre Ubuntu User number is # 28558 Linux Registered User# 278223 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [Off-topic] Hackeando TV Sony Bravia (TV com Linux)
Pra ele deve ser fácil (analista de sistema), eu sou programadora, mas com free pascal não iria muito longe, isso é mais com assembly. Em 07-12-2010 18:37, Isamar Maia escreveu: Receio que isso nao seja possivel com produtos Sony. O historico com outros produtos da Sony eh totalmente negativo com relacao a essa possibilidade. Foi assim com o PS2, PSP e eh hoje com o PS3. A Sony, anos atras, esmagou/sufocou uma pequena comunidade emergente de desenvolvedoredes de aplicativos e utilitarios HomeBrew com tudo que era tipo de facilidade para PSP jogos, calculadoras, etc. A medida em que uma brecha eh descoberta, a proxima versao do software firmware do equipamento, bloqueia a brecha. Para utilizar uma nova funcionalidade ou jogo do produto, vc eh obrigado a fazer o update online do firmware. :-( O mesmo ocorre com o PS3, atualmente: http://www.dashhacks.com/articles/geohot-do-not-update-ps3-321 http://www.be-mine.info/tag/sony-bravia-firmware-hack De qualquer forma, mesmo assim se alguem quiser futucar, uma primeira ideia eh tentar analisar codigo-objeto do firmware, com a ajuda de alguem que tenha experiencia nisso. Seria uma primeira ideia. A coisa fica pior considerando a tendencia de versoes de TV com o console de jogo embutido, o que jah ocorre com o PS2 numa versao da Bravia. Para a Sony, brechas significam um primeiro passo para o suporte a jogos piratas, o que hoje nao eh possivel com o PS3. Isamar 2010/12/7 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelosjoaool...@gmail.com: 2010/12/7 Xisbertoxisbe...@gmail.com Você, usando o Linux e entrando numa lista para falar de hackear?! Acho Entendeu mal sim, Nayane. O João está falando do termo hacker com o seu sentido original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker Isso, Xisberto ;) Nayane, hacker gosta de futucar as coisas, de sair tentando achar uma brecha nas ferramentas eletrônicas, às vezes só para dizer que conseguiu (além de se divertir), sem que isso traga necessariamente algum benefício. Se nessas aventuras ainda conseguir rodar, por exemplo, um navegador em uma TV que não libera o acesso indiscriminado a qualquer site (só os parceiros), aí sim eh uma grande vitória. -- João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos Analista de Sistemas - Infraestrutura joaoolavo.wordpress.com -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Tamanho mínimo partição
Instalei o 9.10 em um net com ssd de 4GB e ele é um foguetinho. Deixei o sistema determinar tudo. Swap, / e /home. Ele fica somente para o SO também não fica arquivo nenhum nele. Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 19:43, Nayane Lima - GMail nayanel...@gmail.comescreveu: Interessante, vou entrar nesse papo, acho que interessa a todos... Eu tenho um hd de 512 gb Meu Swap deixei com apenas 3 gb, acho que nem deveria cria-lo porque tenho 4 gb de ram Só pra ter uma ideia, uma vez fui verificar quanto tava usando de swap, e era informado 0 (zero). Aqui o meu Ubuntu 10.10 é uma bala, num chega nem a piscar.. Tudo funcionando bem, graças a Deus! Criei um swap só para um dia que eu for trabalhar com gráficos pesado não ficar lento. O que vocês acham disso? Será que posso melhorar mais (aumentar, diminuir ou tirar o swap)? Nayane Em 07-12-2010 18:34, nethell escreveu: On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 17:18:39 -0400 Flávio Barrosflaviobar...@gmail.com wrote: Realmente compliquei o meio de campo. Mas seria o tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema. Eu utilizo um CF de 8G com o 10.04. Acho que menos que isso compromete o sistema. Não crie a swap, deixe os 8G sem particionamento, escolha a opção maior espaço livre e a instalação determina o tamanho ideal para ela de acordo com o espaço. nethell Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 17:13, Xisbertoxisbe...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 18:04, Flávio Barrosflaviobar...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde. Alguém saberia me dizer qual o tamanho mínimo de uma partição para a instalar de um sistema apenas com o / e com o swap ? Não entendi exatamente o que você quer saber. O tamanho mínimo possível para a swap? O tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema? Outra coisa? -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Desde já agradeço, +++ Flávio de Oliveira Barros Manaus - Amazonas - Brasil Copiar é bom! Seja Legal Use Software Livre Ubuntu User number is # 28558 Linux Registered User# 278223 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Ávila (31)9325-6871 https://launchpad.net/~genin10 http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ A caixa dizia: 'Requer MS Windows ou superior', então eu instalei Debian/GNU Linux Ubuntu User #29645 Linux User #499959 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Tamanho mínimo partição
O mínimo para ter o sistema rodando seriam 4 GB mas você deve analisar muito bem ao utilizar pouco espaço, pois com o tempo você vai querer instalar mais e mais coisas e os 4GB serão pouco. Em 07-12-2010 20:02, Geninho escreveu: Instalei o 9.10 em um net com ssd de 4GB e ele é um foguetinho. Deixei o sistema determinar tudo. Swap, / e /home. Ele fica somente para o SO também não fica arquivo nenhum nele. Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 19:43, Nayane Lima - GMail nayanel...@gmail.comescreveu: Interessante, vou entrar nesse papo, acho que interessa a todos... Eu tenho um hd de 512 gb Meu Swap deixei com apenas 3 gb, acho que nem deveria cria-lo porque tenho 4 gb de ram Só pra ter uma ideia, uma vez fui verificar quanto tava usando de swap, e era informado 0 (zero). Aqui o meu Ubuntu 10.10 é uma bala, num chega nem a piscar.. Tudo funcionando bem, graças a Deus! Criei um swap só para um dia que eu for trabalhar com gráficos pesado não ficar lento. O que vocês acham disso? Será que posso melhorar mais (aumentar, diminuir ou tirar o swap)? Nayane Em 07-12-2010 18:34, nethell escreveu: On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 17:18:39 -0400 Flávio Barrosflaviobar...@gmail.com wrote: Realmente compliquei o meio de campo. Mas seria o tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema. Eu utilizo um CF de 8G com o 10.04. Acho que menos que isso compromete o sistema. Não crie a swap, deixe os 8G sem particionamento, escolha a opção maior espaço livre e a instalação determina o tamanho ideal para ela de acordo com o espaço. nethell Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 17:13, Xisbertoxisbe...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 18:04, Flávio Barrosflaviobar...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde. Alguém saberia me dizer qual o tamanho mínimo de uma partição para a instalar de um sistema apenas com o / e com o swap ? Não entendi exatamente o que você quer saber. O tamanho mínimo possível para a swap? O tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema? Outra coisa? -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Desde já agradeço, +++ Flávio de Oliveira Barros Manaus - Amazonas - Brasil Copiar é bom! Seja Legal Use Software Livre Ubuntu User number is # 28558 Linux Registered User# 278223 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Ivan Brasil Fuzzer Bacharel em Informática Celular: (54) 8411-0111 - (54) 9917-1798 GTalk: ivanbra...@gmail.com Jabber: ibra...@jabber.org http://www.ubuntero.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Tamanho mínimo partição
Caro Flávio, Durante o processo de instalação do 10.10 ele pede pelo menos 2,6 Gb livres para concluir o processo. No final de semana instalei o Ubuntu 10.10 e reinstalei o W7 em um notebook de amigo (o W7 pediu 10 GB). Por isso o número está ainda na minha memória. Ou será que a velhice está me enganando? ;-) Acho que não. Abraços e sucesso, Nelson On 12/07/2010 07:18 PM, Flávio Barros wrote: Realmente compliquei o meio de campo. Mas seria o tamanho mínimo para o / que caiba todo o sistema. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [Off-topic] Hackeando TV Sony Bravia (TV com Linux)
Se você ligar este equipamento e me enviar um ip externo e válido, quem sabe consigo. Sou pentester e minha especialidade é fazer teste de invasão. Entre em contato em PVT em fireb...@backtrack.com.br Caso, consiga, quero ter a honra e autorização do feito. Att. Em 7 de dezembro de 2010 20:01, Nayane Lima - GMail nayanel...@gmail.comescreveu: Pra ele deve ser fácil (analista de sistema), eu sou programadora, mas com free pascal não iria muito longe, isso é mais com assembly. Em 07-12-2010 18:37, Isamar Maia escreveu: Receio que isso nao seja possivel com produtos Sony. O historico com outros produtos da Sony eh totalmente negativo com relacao a essa possibilidade. Foi assim com o PS2, PSP e eh hoje com o PS3. A Sony, anos atras, esmagou/sufocou uma pequena comunidade emergente de desenvolvedoredes de aplicativos e utilitarios HomeBrew com tudo que era tipo de facilidade para PSP jogos, calculadoras, etc. A medida em que uma brecha eh descoberta, a proxima versao do software firmware do equipamento, bloqueia a brecha. Para utilizar uma nova funcionalidade ou jogo do produto, vc eh obrigado a fazer o update online do firmware. :-( O mesmo ocorre com o PS3, atualmente: http://www.dashhacks.com/articles/geohot-do-not-update-ps3-321 http://www.be-mine.info/tag/sony-bravia-firmware-hack De qualquer forma, mesmo assim se alguem quiser futucar, uma primeira ideia eh tentar analisar codigo-objeto do firmware, com a ajuda de alguem que tenha experiencia nisso. Seria uma primeira ideia. A coisa fica pior considerando a tendencia de versoes de TV com o console de jogo embutido, o que jah ocorre com o PS2 numa versao da Bravia. Para a Sony, brechas significam um primeiro passo para o suporte a jogos piratas, o que hoje nao eh possivel com o PS3. Isamar 2010/12/7 João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelosjoaool...@gmail.com: 2010/12/7 Xisbertoxisbe...@gmail.com Você, usando o Linux e entrando numa lista para falar de hackear?! Acho Entendeu mal sim, Nayane. O João está falando do termo hacker com o seu sentido original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker Isso, Xisberto ;) Nayane, hacker gosta de futucar as coisas, de sair tentando achar uma brecha nas ferramentas eletrônicas, às vezes só para dizer que conseguiu (além de se divertir), sem que isso traga necessariamente algum benefício. Se nessas aventuras ainda conseguir rodar, por exemplo, um navegador em uma TV que não libera o acesso indiscriminado a qualquer site (só os parceiros), aí sim eh uma grande vitória. -- João Olavo Baião de Vasconcelos Analista de Sistemas - Infraestrutura joaoolavo.wordpress.com -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Thunderbird - Senha de acesso
É apenas marcar o item usar senha mestra... seleciona e escolhe a senha... Este item está na parte segurança Em 07/12/2010 11:45, nethell escreveu: On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 11:30:41 -0200 gustavoggusm...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, obrigado hamacker. Há algum outro cliente de email que faça isso o que o Edson perguntou? abraço, Gustavo Eu faria uma sugestão, pois creio que não haja esssa possibilidade nos clientes conhecidos... Por que não criar-se novos usuários e deixar os clientes independentes? Não seria mais prático? Assim não só as configurações de mail como todas as demais seriam exclusivas para cada user. nethell 2010/12/7 hamackersirhamac...@gmail.com O thunderbird não tem senha. Espera-se que o sistema em que estiver usando seja multiusuário, assim, quando a pessoa loga-se no sistema já forneceu as credenciais necessárias para usufruir de todos os aplicativos instalados alí. Se existe mais de um usuário para uma mesma conta, aí fica complicado, mas vocÊ pode estudar a opção -ProfileManager que lhe permite selecionar um perfil, assim quando alguem chamar o thunderbird tem de escolher o perfil adequado a sua funcao, mas isso não o impediria de acessar perfil que não é seu. O mais recomendado é criar contas distintas para cada pessoa e se as mesmas vão compartilhar a mesma conta pop (que descarrega fisicamente as mensagens excluindo-as do local de origem) então estabelecer um caminho comum de armazenamento fora do $HOME desses usuários e dar permissão a estes a esta pasta que foi escolhida. Conta do tipo imap não precisa disso, cada usuário usa conta que quiser, pois as mensagens sempre ficarão no servidor. []'s Em 6 de dezembro de 2010 11:35, Edson.Yahooecpor...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Amigos Segurança: Como criar uma senha no Thunderbird no Ubuntu 10.04, para tornar inacessível a pessoas não autorizadas? Abçs Edson -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Chrome 8 já disponível para downlo ad!
Paulo, também uso o Delicious pra manter favoritos, mas acontece que não encontrei uma extensão decente pro Chrome que seja similar à do Firefox. Alguma dica? Obrigado, Marconi -- Abraços. Puro devaneio http://marconipires.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/puro-devaneio/ Empresa lança colchão com tecnologia inédita http://poliuretano.wordpress.com/2010/12/08/empresa-lanca-colchao-com-tecnologia-inedita/ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] ubuntu no n800
Olá, alguem da lista ja instalou o ubuntu no tablet d nokia n800 ?? Se já, onde posso conseguir a imagem?? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
