Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
We are currently with www.aaisp.co.uk they are pricy but they are excellent, you will not find better service. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Tony Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Levin wrote: Rob Beard wrote: I'm with Vivaciti who are an Enta reseller. I can highly recommend Enta. You might want to give www.ukfsn.org a look as they are Enta re-sellers who fund Open Source development with the profits, plus they're Linux friendly. I'm with UKFSN, and am quite happy with the service; enta run most of the show, and they do a good job. Hello, John. I use UKFSN for authenticated SMTP, and email when I'm not at work. I did consider moving to UKFSN for ADSL, but BT locked me into another 12 month contract when I moved house and I've stayed with them ever since. I get a HUGE amount of spam on my UKFSN email accounts, but that's not really their fault. I support UKFSN's objectives, and I would like to see them succeed. Unfortunately, I registered for this list from work. My 'other' email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajthttp://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/%7Eajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Mr KaroSHi - working myself to death, one nap at a time \o/ mmm..pie.. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
John Levin wrote: Rob Beard wrote: I'm with Vivaciti who are an Enta reseller. I can highly recommend Enta. You might want to give www.ukfsn.org a look as they are Enta re-sellers who fund Open Source development with the profits, plus they're Linux friendly. I'm with UKFSN, and am quite happy with the service; enta run most of the show, and they do a good job. Hello, John. I use UKFSN for authenticated SMTP, and email when I'm not at work. I did consider moving to UKFSN for ADSL, but BT locked me into another 12 month contract when I moved house and I've stayed with them ever since. I get a HUGE amount of spam on my UKFSN email accounts, but that's not really their fault. I support UKFSN's objectives, and I would like to see them succeed. Unfortunately, I registered for this list from work. My 'other' email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
RichardA wrote: For bandwidth monitoring you could use a program that can handle SNMP like nagios. Isn't Nagios overkill for something like this? Typing these just before powering down the PC would save the date and the amount of traffic for that session in a text file: date +%F net_traffic.txt ifconfig | grep -m 1 RX bytes net_traffic.txt But this is incredibly ugly. Maybe someone could post a better command, and which file to put it in to have it executed automatically at shutdown? -- Richard Or if you're lucky your router will give you an idea of the bandwidth used. In other cases sometimes your ISP might have an online monitor. Enta has a pretty good bandwidth monitor so I know exactly how much bandwidth I'm using. I haven't gone over my limits yet but I have come close. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:17 PM, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this correspondence has caused me to wonder whether I am getting the most economical deal commensurate with reliability of supply. I do not use broadband a great down apart from the downloading of Ubuntu updates some Google research and the odd bit of on line buying. I have no one nearby to whom I can turn for advice so I am dependant on what I can read. Could some kind person suggest a good place to find real comparisons between different suppliers and also tell me how I can calculate my monthly usage in GB? Providing you're based in the UK Norman, you'll probably find the ISP comparison pages on http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ (this used to be known as adslguide.org.uk) You can compare multiple ISP's for users rated satisfaction and it also handles the multitude of packages and deals each ISP tend to have. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
James Grabham wrote: I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus I was with demon internet for many years, with a static IP, which I did not need. The basic service was ok, BT line 'up to' 8mb, no set limits. However they lost the personal service feel, and had lots of customer accounts billing criticisms. The contention ration was 50:1 and my connection gave less than 2MB download speeds in reality. For 25 ukp pcm this was expensive. Local loop unbundling in my area (bracknell) offered a possible use of Ukonline isp for 15 ukp pcm and 30:1 ratio in their network, non fixed ip, no limits, for 2MB connection. I changed to them recently, no problems. As I expected, I get much faster download speeds now with a real 2MB line with 30:1, and I save 10 ukp pcm :-) I use p2p for foss and seeding, and the fair use says that although the service is unlimited downloads, if any user impacts too much they will be informed in writing a few times and then if unchanged, will (simply) be put on a connection for 50:1 contention ratio. Later will be reverted back when appropriate. This seemed ok to me, although I doubt if it is going to affect me for my modest upload seeding. However, I am attracted to the idea in principle also of using the local loop unbundled opportunity - should help some reasonable competition. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
James Grabham wrote: I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus I have quite a bit of experience with Pipex business and would not recommend them. Besides, they're owned by Tiscali anyway. If you want a decent connection you will need to pay £20 - £30 a month. The cut rate ISPs are that cheap for a reason and you get what you pay for. Personally I use eclipse (www.eclipse.co.uk) and am very happy with them, but have heard good things about Entanet too. Regards Jon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
All this correspondence has caused me to wonder whether I am getting the most economical deal commensurate with reliability of supply. I do not use broadband a great down apart from the downloading of Ubuntu updates some Google research and the odd bit of on line buying. I have no one nearby to whom I can turn for advice so I am dependant on what I can read. Could some kind person suggest a good place to find real comparisons between different suppliers and also tell me how I can calculate my monthly usage in GB? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
For bandwidth monitoring you could use a program that can handle SNMP like nagios. 2008/7/29 norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] All this correspondence has caused me to wonder whether I am getting the most economical deal commensurate with reliability of supply. I do not use broadband a great down apart from the downloading of Ubuntu updates some Google research and the odd bit of on line buying. I have no one nearby to whom I can turn for advice so I am dependant on what I can read. Could some kind person suggest a good place to find real comparisons between different suppliers and also tell me how I can calculate my monthly usage in GB? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James wrote: What's the full URL for UKFSN then, please? http://www.ukfsn.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
For bandwidth monitoring you could use a program that can handle SNMP like nagios. Isn't Nagios overkill for something like this? Typing these just before powering down the PC would save the date and the amount of traffic for that session in a text file: date +%F net_traffic.txt ifconfig | grep -m 1 RX bytes net_traffic.txt But this is incredibly ugly. Maybe someone could post a better command, and which file to put it in to have it executed automatically at shutdown? -- Richard -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] ISPs
I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus Thanks James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
Pipex were bought out by Tiscali last year... 2008/7/28 James Grabham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus Thanks James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
Eeep... so is it Zen or nothing, because I can't afford Zen. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Jake Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Pipex were bought out by Tiscali last year... 2008/7/28 James Grabham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus Thanks James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
I've heard good things about Be broadband (https://www.bethere.co.uk/), who do 24meg/1.3meg unlimited broadband for ~£15 per month (provided you have a BT line), which is pretty reasonable. They are also owned by O2, who dont seem to have been involved with the latest privacy invasion measures. If they are in your local exchange it would be worth checking them out. -- David Futcher (bobbo) http://www.bobbo.me.uk http://www.launchpad.net/~bobbo -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
On Monday 28 July 2008 8:16:06 pm James Grabham wrote: I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus James. I am with plus.net and they are very good. Also have a look at their forum, to get an idea of them. They have a range of options. I'm on Option2 which has 15GB a month cap. This is plenty for me. It costs me £14.99 a month. Static IP if you want it. Higher options give you more. Cheers Keith -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
looks good, but o2 themselves say £7.50 + £5 for a static IP, so I may well go with o2. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:48 PM, David Futcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I've heard good things about Be broadband (https://www.bethere.co.uk/), who do 24meg/1.3meg unlimited broadband for ~£15 per month (provided you have a BT line), which is pretty reasonable. They are also owned by O2, who dont seem to have been involved with the latest privacy invasion measures. If they are in your local exchange it would be worth checking them out. -- David Futcher (bobbo) http://www.bobbo.me.uk http://www.launchpad.net/~bobbo http://www.launchpad.net/%7Ebobbo -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
Try 02 or bethere excellent service they will tell you the minimum amount of speed you can get (normally 2mb over this but cannot be guaranteed) out of my 24mb i get 21mb this was cheaper than my nildram account who was also bought out by tiscali. Customer service is great (even though they are based in Romania but at least you can understand them) They are well worth considering ;) John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake Bunce Sent: 28 July 2008 20:28 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs Pipex were bought out by Tiscali last year... 2008/7/28 James Grabham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus Thanks James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
James Grabham wrote: I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus Thanks James From what I've heard, Pipex have really gone down hill since being bought out by Tiscalli. I personally wouldn't go with them going on what I've heard. I'm with Vivaciti who are an Enta reseller. I can highly recommend Enta. You might want to give www.ukfsn.org a look as they are Enta re-sellers who fund Open Source development with the profits, plus they're Linux friendly. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
James Grabham wrote: looks good, but o2 themselves say £7.50 + £5 for a static IP, so I may well go with o2. That's assuming they have the equipment in the local exchange. Try the availability checker at Sam Knows Broadband here: http://www.samknows.com/broadband/checker2.php It will give you a better idea of what providers have installed LLU equipment in your local exchange and if you're attached to a Be/O2 enabled exchange. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
Be seem to be a good provider, however they haven't got DSLAMs in every exchange... 2008/7/28 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Grabham wrote: looks good, but o2 themselves say £7.50 + £5 for a static IP, so I may well go with o2. That's assuming they have the equipment in the local exchange. Try the availability checker at Sam Knows Broadband here: http://www.samknows.com/broadband/checker2.php It will give you a better idea of what providers have installed LLU equipment in your local exchange and if you're attached to a Be/O2 enabled exchange. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
Rob Beard wrote: I'm with Vivaciti who are an Enta reseller. I can highly recommend Enta. You might want to give www.ukfsn.org a look as they are Enta re-sellers who fund Open Source development with the profits, plus they're Linux friendly. I'm with UKFSN, and am quite happy with the service; enta run most of the show, and they do a good job. John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
I used to be with UKLinux.net when I was on dial-up. Never had a problem. I just got greedy because I got a better deal with Virgin. However, since we're moving soon and given what's happening, I'll seriously consider going back to them if they can supply whichever address we end up in. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:41 PM, peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use entanet which I got through uklinux.net. Static IP is included but limited to 30 G a month peak (monday - friday 6-midnigh)t. and 300 g at other times. Speed and reliability have been excellent over the lt few years. Peter On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 20:16 +0100, James Grabham wrote: I'm sure you've all seen the news concerning ISPs. Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. Which means I'm a bit stuck; AOL, Virgin, Sky, Tiscali and Orange/Wanadoo are all out. I'm thinking Pipex business - static IP, unlimited downloads but it's £20 a month + VAT. What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus Thanks James __ D O T E A S Y - Join the web hosting revolution! http://www.doteasy.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
James Grabham wrote: Now I for one AM NOT paying someone to invade my privacy be logging what IPs I visit, so TalkTalk are getting the boot. ... What do others use/recommend? Unlimited Downloads is a must. Static IP would be a plus http://www.surfanytime.com http://www.surfanytime.com/consservices/adslmax.htm Free static IP on request 25 quid a month up to 8mbit 30GB/month 8am-midnight 450GB/month midnight-8am (yes, four hundred and fifty gigabytes) Proud to be Phorm free http://www.surfanytime.com/html/phorm.asp Rock solid, haven't been offline in years. As well as the usual phone/email/ticket support, there's a very good forum which is used by staff and users alike. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs
What's the full URL for UKFSN then, please? James. - Original Message - From: John Levin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] ISPs Rob Beard wrote: I'm with Vivaciti who are an Enta reseller. I can highly recommend Enta. You might want to give www.ukfsn.org a look as they are Enta re-sellers who fund Open Source development with the profits, plus they're Linux friendly. I'm with UKFSN, and am quite happy with the service; enta run most of the show, and they do a good job. John -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
