[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-13 Thread Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
Dear Karthik,

Please scroll down and read the original post under the thread head 50
Solaris school computers.

The question is if there is a computer with Sun Solaris operating system,
learning Star Office and java becomes easier. But the student also has to
learn windows and Vbasic.

How does he do that on a computer with Sun Solaris O/s ? Is Dual Boot with
Windows as additional O/S the only way out ? Or can Zen help? These are to
be standalones, low cost desktop computers, is Zen a good idea ? And with
Zen can a student do his exercises on his Vbasic and Internet Explorer ?

Thank you.
Sivasubramanian.

On 4/12/07, Karthic Somalinga karthic.sr at gmail.com wrote:

 I suppose there is some misunderstanding about Solaris here.
 I wonder how somebody can learn Microsoft Windows on Solaris Machine
 (unless they understood Solaris as a hardware).

 - Karthic

 On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:

  Hello,
 
  The following syllabus information is received from the school:
 
  XI Std.
 
  June July
 
  An Introduction to Computers Volume 1
  Number Systems
  An Introduction to Windows
  Windows Explorer, computers, Communications
 
  August
 
  Internet
 
  September
 
  HTML - An Introduction to html - some more tags, Beyond the basics I 
  II, Developing Webpages
 
  October
 
  Flow Charts Volume II
  Elements of C Language
  Simple C programs
  Control Structures
 
  November
 
  Loop Structures
 
  December
 
  Arrays and Structures
  Functions, Library Functions
 
  January
 
  Files
 
  Standard XII
 
  June
 
  Star Office Writer
  Text Formatting
  Spell Check  Corrections
  Working With Tables
 
  July
 
  Page Formatting
  Spread Sheet
  Database
 
  August
 
  Mutlimedia Introduction
  Star Office Impress
  Object Oriented Concepts using C+
  Overview of C+
 
  September
 
  Basic Statements
  Functions
 
  October
 
  Structured Data types -Arrays
  Classes and Objects
  Polymorphisms
 
  November
 
  Constuctors and Destructors
  Inherittance
  Impact of Computers on Society
 
  December
 
  IT enabled Services
  Comptuer Ethics
 
  This is for Standards XI and XII. From next academic year onwards, Std
  VI onwards will have subjects like Visual Basic, Java and additional
  subjects.
 
  At a later stage Open Solaris can work with the authorities to
  rationalize the syllabus and suggest an improved syllabus, but for now, how
  do I say that Solaris is better for this syllabus ?
 
  How would students learn Microsoft Windows on a Solaris machine ?
 
  Thank you
  Sivasubramanian.
 
 
 
 
  On 4/5/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy  shiva.madras at gmail.com  wrote:
  
   Dear Shivakumar, Moinack and Sriram,
  
   you have given me a wealth of information. This morning I prepared a
   pdf on Solaris features which summarises the overall features, now I will
   convince him with the inputs that you have given.
  
   Thank you.
   Sivasubramanian.
  
  
   On 4/5/07, Moinak Ghosh Moinak.Ghosh at sun.com  wrote:
   
Sriram Popuri wrote:


 1) Is system administation more difficult or more
complicated
 in Solaris ?  What he probably wants to know is whether
 solaris has GUI interfaces on the desktop for at least the
 common system adminstrative tasks.


 You can use Solaris Management Console.
 type smc (/usr/sbin/smc) in a terminal or click from the
menu.  This
 will bringup a window through which you can manage many things.


 [...]

 Storage services:
   
  Um ... it is recommended to use Storage Services for viewing only.
There are
  a few bugs here that can cause unintended disk formatting!
   
  In addition JDS (GNOME) from Solaris Express Build 54 onwards has
additional
  nice GUIs for managing Users and Groups, Configure Network without
rebooting
  etc. Just go to  Main Menu - Administration and Main Menu -
Preferences.
   
Regards,
Moinak.
   
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[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-13 Thread Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
Dear Karthik,

Sorry, the original message that I posted under the thread 50 Open Solaris
School Computers does not form part of this message.  This message contains
the last two messages of that message thread with the new thread headline
Challenge: Teaching  

In brief, the original message was about offering a learning solution to a
school that wants to buy computers for its students who have to learn
Vbasic, Microsoft Windows, Star Office, C+ and Java.

The school wanted to go in for a Windows computer, I am trying to convince
them to opt for Solaris. The Solaris computers are to be given to the school
if a solution for handling the Microsoft part of Syllabus can be offered.

Dual Boot or VMware ? Which one is most suitable ? Which one is less
expensive ?

Thank you.
Sivasubramanian.

On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Karthik,

 Please scroll down and read the original post under the thread head 50
 Solaris school computers.

 The question is if there is a computer with Sun Solaris operating system,
 learning Star Office and java becomes easier. But the student also has to
 learn windows and Vbasic.

 How does he do that on a computer with Sun Solaris O/s ? Is Dual Boot with
 Windows as additional O/S the only way out ? Or can Zen help? These are to
 be standalones, low cost desktop computers, is Zen a good idea ? And with
 Zen can a student do his exercises on his Vbasic and Internet Explorer ?

 Thank you.
 Sivasubramanian.

 On 4/12/07, Karthic Somalinga karthic.sr at gmail.com wrote:

  I suppose there is some misunderstanding about Solaris here.
  I wonder how somebody can learn Microsoft Windows on Solaris Machine
  (unless they understood Solaris as a hardware).
 
  - Karthic
 
  On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   The following syllabus information is received from the school:
  
   XI Std.
  
   June July
  
   An Introduction to Computers Volume 1
   Number Systems
   An Introduction to Windows
   Windows Explorer, computers, Communications
  
   August
  
   Internet
  
   September
  
   HTML - An Introduction to html - some more tags, Beyond the basics I 
   II, Developing Webpages
  
   October
  
   Flow Charts Volume II
   Elements of C Language
   Simple C programs
   Control Structures
  
   November
  
   Loop Structures
  
   December
  
   Arrays and Structures
   Functions, Library Functions
  
   January
  
   Files
  
   Standard XII
  
   June
  
   Star Office Writer
   Text Formatting
   Spell Check  Corrections
   Working With Tables
  
   July
  
   Page Formatting
   Spread Sheet
   Database
  
   August
  
   Mutlimedia Introduction
   Star Office Impress
   Object Oriented Concepts using C+
   Overview of C+
  
   September
  
   Basic Statements
   Functions
  
   October
  
   Structured Data types -Arrays
   Classes and Objects
   Polymorphisms
  
   November
  
   Constuctors and Destructors
   Inherittance
   Impact of Computers on Society
  
   December
  
   IT enabled Services
   Comptuer Ethics
  
   This is for Standards XI and XII. From next academic year onwards, Std
   VI onwards will have subjects like Visual Basic, Java and additional
   subjects.
  
   At a later stage Open Solaris can work with the authorities to
   rationalize the syllabus and suggest an improved syllabus, but for now, 
   how
   do I say that Solaris is better for this syllabus ?
  
   How would students learn Microsoft Windows on a Solaris machine ?
  
   Thank you
   Sivasubramanian.
  
  
  
  
   On 4/5/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy  shiva.madras at gmail.com  wrote:
   
Dear Shivakumar, Moinack and Sriram,
   
you have given me a wealth of information. This morning I prepared a
pdf on Solaris features which summarises the overall features, now I 
will
convince him with the inputs that you have given.
   
Thank you.
Sivasubramanian.
   
   
On 4/5/07, Moinak Ghosh Moinak.Ghosh at sun.com  wrote:

 Sriram Popuri wrote:
 
 
  1) Is system administation more difficult or more
 complicated
  in Solaris ?  What he probably wants to know is whether
  solaris has GUI interfaces on the desktop for at least
 the
  common system adminstrative tasks.
 
 
  You can use Solaris Management Console.
  type smc (/usr/sbin/smc) in a terminal or click from the
 menu.  This
  will bringup a window through which you can manage many things.
 
 
  [...]
 
  Storage services:

   Um ... it is recommended to use Storage Services for viewing
 only.
 There are
   a few bugs here that can cause unintended disk formatting!

   In addition JDS (GNOME) from Solaris Express Build 54 onwards
 has
 additional
   nice GUIs for managing Users and Groups, Configure Network
 without
 rebooting
   etc. Just go to  Main 

[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-13 Thread Srichand Pendyala
Hi!

On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 23:59 +0530, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
 Dear Karthik,
 
 snip 
 
 Dual Boot or VMware ? Which one is most suitable ? Which one is less
 expensive ?

Um, both are equally expensive actually. Dual boot or VMware, you still
have to pay for your copy of Windows. And yeah, VMware is free (free as
in free beer). Depending on your system configuration ( 512 megs of
RAM,  20 gig free space) VMware might actually be a good solution, with
the suspend and resume stuff too.

Regards,
Srichand

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[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-13 Thread Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
Hello

What kind payments to be made to Microsoft if Vista is to be run on VMware
in a desktop?

Thank you.

On 4/13/07, Srichand Pendyala srichand.pendyala at gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 23:59 +0530, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
  Dear Karthik,
 
  snip
 
  Dual Boot or VMware ? Which one is most suitable ? Which one is less
  expensive ?

 Um, both are equally expensive actually. Dual boot or VMware, you still
 have to pay for your copy of Windows. And yeah, VMware is free (free as
 in free beer). Depending on your system configuration ( 512 megs of
 RAM,  20 gig free space) VMware might actually be a good solution, with
 the suspend and resume stuff too.

 Regards,
 Srichand

 --
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 MS Ramaiah Institute of Technology

 Phone: +91 988 615 2042
 URL: http://srichand.net.in

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[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-13 Thread Venky
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 12:47:57AM +0530, Ananth Shrinivas wrote:
 
 What kind payments to be made to Microsoft if Vista is to be run on 
 VMware in a desktop?
 
 You need a standard MS license for the OS you wish to run. If its a 
 school, you need to buy one license for every single computer you wish 
 to run the OS on. I believe there is a 'bulk discount' or some such thing.

Might be a little more complex than that.  It is not legal to run
all versions of Vista inside VMWare.  You might need to go for
the business editions of Vista which are significantly more
expensive.

http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,61969665,00.htm
http://www.vmware.com/solutions/whitepapers/msoft_licensing_wp.html

There are some new licenses available which would allow Vista
Enterprise Edition to be run on a virtualized server-based setup,
but this would probably still turn out to be expensive.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/03/windows_vista_virtualization/

Any reason why it has to Vista and not XP?  As Ananth mentioned,
this would make your hardware less expensive.

Venky.



[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-13 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On 4/13/07, G N S shivakumar.gn at gmail.com wrote:
 No point over-engineering the solutions such as VMware if windows *has* to
 be taught. Multiple issues - technical/legal/administrative will need to be
 dealt with. Legal issue being the trickiest since these are always current
 and may change at any point of time.


Indeed. I also think that the school would have to buy academic
licenses for Visual Studio - MS would definitely start to pay visits
if they hear of folks running VB on Wine at a school.

And if they do find VB on Wine, they they'll change licensing
requirements if required to ensure that Visual Studio products cannot
be run on anything apart from Windows, etc. I was wondering if all
that sounds far fetched, but with MS evangelizing very much and having
lots of campus ambassadors etc, they're likely to do their best to
keep anything non-Windows away.

 Just setup windows and teach windows. But do have it as dual boot to teach
 students non-windows topics.


+1 to that. And if students don't choose to boot into Linux, then
Cygwin on Windows would be an option too.

The NCR FOSS folks would perhaps be of help here.

-- Sriram



[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-13 Thread Karthic Somalinga
Hi Siva,
Considering the Syllabus you referred to Vista would be a bad option. You
can do that very much with XP flavours even and Vista will add more
complexity and will cost you high.

As referred by Srichand, both ideas are equally expensive but prefer dual
boot rather than VMWare (as it will require high system configuration).

- Karthic

On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Karthik,

 Sorry, the original message that I posted under the thread 50 Open
 Solaris School Computers does not form part of this message.  This message
 contains the last two messages of that message thread with the new thread
 headline Challenge: Teaching  

 In brief, the original message was about offering a learning solution to a
 school that wants to buy computers for its students who have to learn
 Vbasic, Microsoft Windows, Star Office, C+ and Java.

 The school wanted to go in for a Windows computer, I am trying to convince
 them to opt for Solaris. The Solaris computers are to be given to the school
 if a solution for handling the Microsoft part of Syllabus can be offered.

 Dual Boot or VMware ? Which one is most suitable ? Which one is less
 expensive ?

 Thank you.
 Sivasubramanian.

 On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear Karthik,
 
  Please scroll down and read the original post under the thread head 50
  Solaris school computers.
 
  The question is if there is a computer with Sun Solaris operating
  system, learning Star Office and java becomes easier. But the student also
  has to learn windows and Vbasic.
 
  How does he do that on a computer with Sun Solaris O/s ? Is Dual Boot
  with Windows as additional O/S the only way out ? Or can Zen help? These are
  to be standalones, low cost desktop computers, is Zen a good idea ? And with
  Zen can a student do his exercises on his Vbasic and Internet Explorer ?
 
  Thank you.
  Sivasubramanian.
 
  On 4/12/07, Karthic Somalinga  karthic.sr at gmail.com wrote:
 
   I suppose there is some misunderstanding about Solaris here.
   I wonder how somebody can learn Microsoft Windows on Solaris Machine
   (unless they understood Solaris as a hardware).
  
   - Karthic
  
   On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:
  
Hello,
   
The following syllabus information is received from the school:
   
XI Std.
   
June July
   
An Introduction to Computers Volume 1
Number Systems
An Introduction to Windows
Windows Explorer, computers, Communications
   
August
   
Internet
   
September
   
HTML - An Introduction to html - some more tags, Beyond the basics I
 II, Developing Webpages
   
October
   
Flow Charts Volume II
Elements of C Language
Simple C programs
Control Structures
   
November
   
Loop Structures
   
December
   
Arrays and Structures
Functions, Library Functions
   
January
   
Files
   
Standard XII
   
June
   
Star Office Writer
Text Formatting
Spell Check  Corrections
Working With Tables
   
July
   
Page Formatting
Spread Sheet
Database
   
August
   
Mutlimedia Introduction
Star Office Impress
Object Oriented Concepts using C+
Overview of C+
   
September
   
Basic Statements
Functions
   
October
   
Structured Data types -Arrays
Classes and Objects
Polymorphisms
   
November
   
Constuctors and Destructors
Inherittance
Impact of Computers on Society
   
December
   
IT enabled Services
Comptuer Ethics
   
This is for Standards XI and XII. From next academic year onwards,
Std VI onwards will have subjects like Visual Basic, Java and additional
subjects.
   
At a later stage Open Solaris can work with the authorities to
rationalize the syllabus and suggest an improved syllabus, but for now, 
how
do I say that Solaris is better for this syllabus ?
   
How would students learn Microsoft Windows on a Solaris machine ?
   
Thank you
Sivasubramanian.
   
   
   
   
On 4/5/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy  shiva.madras at gmail.com 
wrote:

 Dear Shivakumar, Moinack and Sriram,

 you have given me a wealth of information. This morning I prepared
 a pdf on Solaris features which summarises the overall features, now 
 I will
 convince him with the inputs that you have given.

 Thank you.
 Sivasubramanian.


 On 4/5/07, Moinak Ghosh Moinak.Ghosh at sun.com  wrote:
 
  Sriram Popuri wrote:
  
  
   1) Is system administation more difficult or more
  complicated
   in Solaris ?  What he probably wants to know is
  whether
   solaris has GUI interfaces on the desktop for at least
  the
   common system adminstrative tasks.
  
  
   You can use Solaris Management 

[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-13 Thread Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
Hello Open Solaris,

Thank you all for the flood of attentive responses on this question. The
responses have in total given a shape to a solution that can be offered to
the school:

1. A sun Solaris desktop with dual boot option ( based on Srichand
Pendyala's observation that VMware is free, free as in free beer and the
pointed advise from GNS that over-engineering solutions multiply technical
/ legal / administration. And as Venky pointed out it might not be entirely
legal and it could be expensive to run Vista on VMware.

2. Since it is a machine with a basic configuration, Vista that doubles
hardware budget is out, and as observed, there is no particular reason for
Vista for this purpose. So Windows XP.

3. Sriram, how does Open Solaris work with NRC foss ? And with other open
source groups ? Is there any interaction between Open Solaris and other Open
Source groups ? Is Open Solaris a member or otherwise associated with the
govenrment body NRC foss?

I will propose a summary solution to this school as also get to work on some
more schools, to see if we can come up with an opportunity to create a
learning environment in a school or college based on desktop computers and
supportive backend servers all of which primarily run Solaris / Open
Solaris.

Thank you.
Sivasubramanian.

On 4/13/07, Karthic Somalinga karthic.sr at gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Siva,
 Considering the Syllabus you referred to Vista would be a bad option. You
 can do that very much with XP flavours even and Vista will add more
 complexity and will cost you high.

 As referred by Srichand, both ideas are equally expensive but prefer dual
 boot rather than VMWare (as it will require high system configuration).

 - Karthic

 On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear Karthik,
 
  Sorry, the original message that I posted under the thread 50 Open
  Solaris School Computers does not form part of this message.  This message
  contains the last two messages of that message thread with the new thread
  headline Challenge: Teaching  
 
  In brief, the original message was about offering a learning solution to
  a school that wants to buy computers for its students who have to learn
  Vbasic, Microsoft Windows, Star Office, C+ and Java.
 
  The school wanted to go in for a Windows computer, I am trying to
  convince them to opt for Solaris. The Solaris computers are to be given to
  the school if a solution for handling the Microsoft part of Syllabus can be
  offered.
 
  Dual Boot or VMware ? Which one is most suitable ? Which one is less
  expensive ?
 
  Thank you.
  Sivasubramanian.
 
  On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:
  
   Dear Karthik,
  
   Please scroll down and read the original post under the thread head
   50 Solaris school computers.
  
   The question is if there is a computer with Sun Solaris operating
   system, learning Star Office and java becomes easier. But the student also
   has to learn windows and Vbasic.
  
   How does he do that on a computer with Sun Solaris O/s ? Is Dual Boot
   with Windows as additional O/S the only way out ? Or can Zen help? These 
   are
   to be standalones, low cost desktop computers, is Zen a good idea ? And 
   with
   Zen can a student do his exercises on his Vbasic and Internet Explorer ?
  
   Thank you.
   Sivasubramanian.
  
   On 4/12/07, Karthic Somalinga  karthic.sr at gmail.com wrote:
  
I suppose there is some misunderstanding about Solaris here.
I wonder how somebody can learn Microsoft Windows on Solaris Machine
(unless they understood Solaris as a hardware).
   
- Karthic
   
On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Hello,

 The following syllabus information is received from the school:

 XI Std.

 June July

 An Introduction to Computers Volume 1
 Number Systems
 An Introduction to Windows
 Windows Explorer, computers, Communications

 August

 Internet

 September

 HTML - An Introduction to html - some more tags, Beyond the basics
 I  II, Developing Webpages

 October

 Flow Charts Volume II
 Elements of C Language
 Simple C programs
 Control Structures

 November

 Loop Structures

 December

 Arrays and Structures
 Functions, Library Functions

 January

 Files

 Standard XII

 June

 Star Office Writer
 Text Formatting
 Spell Check  Corrections
 Working With Tables

 July

 Page Formatting
 Spread Sheet
 Database

 August

 Mutlimedia Introduction
 Star Office Impress
 Object Oriented Concepts using C+
 Overview of C+

 September

 Basic Statements
 Functions

 October

 Structured Data types -Arrays
 Classes and Objects
 Polymorphisms

 November

[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-12 Thread Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
Hello,

The following syllabus information is received from the school:

XI Std.

June July

An Introduction to Computers Volume 1
Number Systems
An Introduction to Windows
Windows Explorer, computers, Communications

August

Internet

September

HTML - An Introduction to html - some more tags, Beyond the basics I  II,
Developing Webpages

October

Flow Charts Volume II
Elements of C Language
Simple C programs
Control Structures

November

Loop Structures

December

Arrays and Structures
Functions, Library Functions

January

Files

Standard XII

June

Star Office Writer
Text Formatting
Spell Check  Corrections
Working With Tables

July

Page Formatting
Spread Sheet
Database

August

Mutlimedia Introduction
Star Office Impress
Object Oriented Concepts using C+
Overview of C+

September

Basic Statements
Functions

October

Structured Data types -Arrays
Classes and Objects
Polymorphisms

November

Constuctors and Destructors
Inherittance
Impact of Computers on Society

December

IT enabled Services
Comptuer Ethics

This is for Standards XI and XII. From next academic year onwards, Std VI
onwards will have subjects like Visual Basic, Java and additional subjects.

At a later stage Open Solaris can work with the authorities to rationalize
the syllabus and suggest an improved syllabus, but for now, how do I say
that Solaris is better for this syllabus ?

How would students learn Microsoft Windows on a Solaris machine ?

Thank you
Sivasubramanian.




On 4/5/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Shivakumar, Moinack and Sriram,

 you have given me a wealth of information. This morning I prepared a pdf
 on Solaris features which summarises the overall features, now I will
 convince him with the inputs that you have given.

 Thank you.
 Sivasubramanian.


 On 4/5/07, Moinak Ghosh Moinak.Ghosh at sun.com wrote:
 
  Sriram Popuri wrote:
  
  
   1) Is system administation more difficult or more complicated
   in Solaris ?  What he probably wants to know is whether
   solaris has GUI interfaces on the desktop for at least the
   common system adminstrative tasks.
  
  
   You can use Solaris Management Console.
   type smc (/usr/sbin/smc) in a terminal or click from the menu.  This
   will bringup a window through which you can manage many things.
  
  
   [...]
  
   Storage services:
 
Um ... it is recommended to use Storage Services for viewing only.
  There are
a few bugs here that can cause unintended disk formatting!
 
In addition JDS (GNOME) from Solaris Express Build 54 onwards has
  additional
nice GUIs for managing Users and Groups, Configure Network without
  rebooting
etc. Just go to  Main Menu - Administration and Main Menu -
  Preferences.
 
  Regards,
  Moinak.
 
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[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-12 Thread Karthic Somalinga
I suppose there is some misunderstanding about Solaris here.
I wonder how somebody can learn Microsoft Windows on Solaris Machine (unless
they understood Solaris as a hardware).

- Karthic

On 4/12/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 The following syllabus information is received from the school:

 XI Std.

 June July

 An Introduction to Computers Volume 1
 Number Systems
 An Introduction to Windows
 Windows Explorer, computers, Communications

 August

 Internet

 September

 HTML - An Introduction to html - some more tags, Beyond the basics I  II,
 Developing Webpages

 October

 Flow Charts Volume II
 Elements of C Language
 Simple C programs
 Control Structures

 November

 Loop Structures

 December

 Arrays and Structures
 Functions, Library Functions

 January

 Files

 Standard XII

 June

 Star Office Writer
 Text Formatting
 Spell Check  Corrections
 Working With Tables

 July

 Page Formatting
 Spread Sheet
 Database

 August

 Mutlimedia Introduction
 Star Office Impress
 Object Oriented Concepts using C+
 Overview of C+

 September

 Basic Statements
 Functions

 October

 Structured Data types -Arrays
 Classes and Objects
 Polymorphisms

 November

 Constuctors and Destructors
 Inherittance
 Impact of Computers on Society

 December

 IT enabled Services
 Comptuer Ethics

 This is for Standards XI and XII. From next academic year onwards, Std VI
 onwards will have subjects like Visual Basic, Java and additional subjects.

 At a later stage Open Solaris can work with the authorities to rationalize
 the syllabus and suggest an improved syllabus, but for now, how do I say
 that Solaris is better for this syllabus ?

 How would students learn Microsoft Windows on a Solaris machine ?

 Thank you
 Sivasubramanian.




 On 4/5/07, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy shiva.madras at gmail.com  wrote:
 
  Dear Shivakumar, Moinack and Sriram,
 
  you have given me a wealth of information. This morning I prepared a pdf
  on Solaris features which summarises the overall features, now I will
  convince him with the inputs that you have given.
 
  Thank you.
  Sivasubramanian.
 
 
  On 4/5/07, Moinak Ghosh Moinak.Ghosh at sun.com  wrote:
  
   Sriram Popuri wrote:
   
   
1) Is system administation more difficult or more
   complicated
in Solaris ?  What he probably wants to know is whether
solaris has GUI interfaces on the desktop for at least the
common system adminstrative tasks.
   
   
You can use Solaris Management Console.
type smc (/usr/sbin/smc) in a terminal or click from the menu.  This
will bringup a window through which you can manage many things.
   
   
[...]
   
Storage services:
  
 Um ... it is recommended to use Storage Services for viewing only.
   There are
 a few bugs here that can cause unintended disk formatting!
  
 In addition JDS (GNOME) from Solaris Express Build 54 onwards has
   additional
 nice GUIs for managing Users and Groups, Configure Network without
   rebooting
 etc. Just go to  Main Menu - Administration and Main Menu -
   Preferences.
  
   Regards,
   Moinak.
  
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[ug-bosug] Challenge: Teaching Microsoft Windows effectively on a Solaris Computer.

2007-04-12 Thread G N S
No point over-engineering the solutions such as VMware if windows *has* to
be taught. Multiple issues - technical/legal/administrative will need to be
dealt with. Legal issue being the trickiest since these are always current
and may change at any point of time.

Just setup windows and teach windows. But do have it as dual boot to teach
students non-windows topics.

regards
Shiv


On 4/12/07, Srichand Pendyala srichand.pendyala at gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!

 On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 23:59 +0530, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
  Dear Karthik,
 
  snip
 
  Dual Boot or VMware ? Which one is most suitable ? Which one is less
  expensive ?
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