Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

[UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN]

Ross Bender wrote:


Ray, those are some truly earthshatteringly lousy lyrics.




I admit I'm no songwriter or chant-meister. that's why I 
share with you folks. feel free to re-write!




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Re: [UC] Out of the Ivory Tower and Into the Streets

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Ross Bender wrote:

So now Judy is enshrined as a goddess, who rode the winged horse "Market
Forces" into our nasty ghetto hood and and "built capacity back into a
severely distressed inner-city neighborhood". Makes me wanna hurl chunks.



this is kind of old news. the apotheosis of judy; the 
manifest destiny of universities as they rise from 
self-defined excellence to eminence to pre-eminence and 
beyond; their self-congratulatory legacy predicating even 
further expansion into and control of cities by universities 
(which behave more and more like governments and businesses 
without ever developing the concomitant mechanisms that 
ensure real public responsibility or accountability); the 
establishment of university institutes to legitimize, 
institutionalize, and program this self-defined relationship 
between the university and the city -- it's the Greatest 
Story Ever Told, and now it's on the road.


back in march 2004, just months before her departure in june 
2004, president judith rodin delivered an address, 'the 
university and the city'. this was the address in which she 
famously said clark park was drug-infested. in this address 
she also announced the formation of a penn urban research 
institute:


http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/v50/n27/rodin.html


excerpt:


Now, let me take you back to the real-world crisis, and
how we intervened. To make the neighborhood cleaner and
safer, we strengthened our Division of Public Safety by
hiring more police officers and investing in
state-of-the-art technology. We also opened a new police
station further west beyond campus, co-locating it with the
Philadelphia police precinct substation and the
special-services district that we took the lead in
launching. We did this to signal Penn's commitment to the
safety of our students and our neighbors.

At the same time, this newly created University City
special-services district, which you all know as the UCD,
employed both safety ambassadors who walked the streets and
supported campus and city police, and trash collectors who
supplemented city units and helped remove graffiti. These
were welfare-to-work participants, thus contributing to
another social action goal.

In addition, we partnered with neighborhood residents, the
electricians' union, and the local electric company to
install fixtures to uniformly light the sidewalks of 1,200
neighborhood properties. Not only did these efforts create a
brighter and cleaner neighborhood, which attracted more and
more foot traffic, but by requiring whole blocks, rather
than individual homeowners, to commit, we encouraged a
revival of community associations, block by block.

This, in turn, led to greening projects--such as the
planting of 450 trees and 10,000 spring bulbs and the
creation of four public and three children's gardens--which
set the stage for the dramatic transformation of Clark Park
from a dangerous drug-infested space into a thriving
recreational venue for children and the locale for a weekly
farmer's market.
 
Along with making University City cleaner and safer, Penn

had a huge initial impact on housing, which itself had
become a clean and safe issue.
 
We began by acquiring twenty abandoned properties in

strategic spots throughout the neighborhood, rehabbed them,
and sold them to the public. We weren't seeking a profit on
these homes. Rather, we were seeking to build capacity by
stabilizing blocks and promoting home ownership.

We also stepped up our efforts to encourage more Penn
affiliates to move into the neighborhood. But to make the
neighborhood more attractive to residents, students, and
visitors alike, we needed to provide retail and cultural
amenities and engineer radical improvements in the public
schools.
 
Here is where we really rolled the dice. We resolved to

plan and build a public school, and we chose to undertake
two large-scale mixed-use retail development projects in
hopes that major anchors would bring other shops,
restaurants, theaters, private investment, and private
development to University City. [...]



All told, scores of new shops that run the gamut are opening
throughout the neighborhood. And a commercial corridor given
up for dead now bustles with art galleries, performance
spaces, and an international restaurant row that reflects
the dynamic cultural diversity of University City. Thousands
of people--from the Penn community, from the neighborhood,
from all over the region--are flocking to shops,
restaurants, and cultural venues that came into being as a
direct result of Penn's decision to redevelop a dying
commercial core into a thriving, productive asset.


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Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

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On 6/11/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  C F Em Dm | CF  Em  Dm
  U   C  D!   GET OUT ON THE STREET

  C F Em Dm | CF EmDm
  U   C  D!   WE NEED A CLEAN SWEEP

 G C
 GET OUT OF OUR STORES AND OUR PARKS

 G C
 GET OUT OF OUR HOUSES AND YARDS

G
GET OUT OF OUR GARDENS

C
AND OUT OF OUR MARKETS

  F   G  C  C
 GET BACK ON THE STREET AND GO SWEEP



Ray, those are some truly earthshatteringly lousy lyrics. How about:

GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND GO BACK TO SLEEP

--

Ross Bender
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RE: [UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it, what would be the objective?

[S. Sharrieff Ali]

Yes ..thank you Tony.
 
I agree with Tony's statements, the NID was never discussed and it would
be pure speculation on anyone's part to predict what actions
Councilwoman
Blackwell would take.
 
The tee shirt reads:
 
"I WAS THERE THE DAY JANNIE SPOKE TO UCD"
 
S
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony West
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:39 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it,
what would be the objective?
 
It was (d), Al. The motions came from the floor.
 
And it wasn't specifically about the NID, which is of no relevance to
the UCD services currently spearheaded in the community by John Fenton.
The meeting made clear these UCD services have been warmly appreciated
by many community groups. But there were also grievances about UCD,
which people didn't go into in detail -- in part because Glenn Bryan
firmly steered groups away from these issues as too far off topic for
that particular meeting, which had a previously established agenda that
had nothing to do with UCD.
 
The "objective" of such a meeting, I suppose, would be to elicit
community concerns and desiderata about UCD in particular, or any other
special service district.for University City, in a forum not shaped by
UCD itself.
 
It's hard to say what its deliverable would be, although it would
certainly carry some weight in Councilwoman Blackwell's eyes.
 
-- Tony West
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:43 PM
Subject: [UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it, what
would be the objective?
 
The postings about the recent "First Thursday" meeting made if fairly
clear that the message between the lines of Councilwoman's presentation
was that the NID initiative is dead.
 
However, there were a few things posted about the possibility of a
"community meeting" on the topic. It wasn't at all clear who wanted such
a meeting:
a) Mrs Blackwell
b) Penn/UCD
c) people in the community based on what they might have thought before
the Councilwoman's presentation, 
d) people in the community based on what they might have thought after
the Councilwoman's presentation.
e) other
 
Also, dependent on the answer to the above, what would be the objective
and the deliverable of such a meeting?
 
Always at your service & ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman




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Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ray, I'd really appreciate it if you can give us an example of all or some of 
the above, with an explanation of how each has affected the neighborhood. 



hi melani. excellent question -- and you know what? I think 
it would be much more useful and illuminating if your 
question was opened up to the list, and so I'll leave the 
mic open and allow others to provide examples and 
explanations, if they can.


[extra credit for anyone who can provide the figures for 
ucd's current budget.]


[extra extra credit for anyone who can provide the figures 
for ucd's proposed budget as a bid.]


[extra extra extra credit for anyone who can provide a 
melody and guitar tabs for the lyrics of our new ucd song. 
maybe something like this:]



  C F Em Dm | CF  Em  Dm
  U   C  D!   GET OUT ON THE STREET

  C F Em Dm | CF EmDm
  U   C  D!   WE NEED A CLEAN SWEEP

 G C
 GET OUT OF OUR STORES AND OUR PARKS

 G C
 GET OUT OF OUR HOUSES AND YARDS

G
GET OUT OF OUR GARDENS

C
AND OUT OF OUR MARKETS

  F   G  C  C
 GET BACK ON THE STREET AND GO SWEEP



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Re: [UC] Out of the Ivory Tower and Into the Streets

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No

Sande Knight
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ross Bender 
  To: University City listserv ; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:25 PM
  Subject: [UC] Out of the Ivory Tower and Into the Streets


  I was just reading an article in the New York Review of Books titled "The 
Women and the Gods", a review of "Portrait of a Priestess: Women and Ritual in 
Ancient Greece" when an ad for books on "Urban Studies from Penn Press" caught 
my eye. First item on the list was a book by our own Judy Rodin titled "The 
University and Urban Revival: Out of the Ivory Tower and Into the Streets." I 
hurried to Amazon.com and found this "synopsis":

  "In the last quarter of the twentieth century, urban colleges and 
universities found themselves enveloped by the poverty, crime, and physical 
decline that afflicted American cities. Some institutions turned inward, trying 
to insulate themselves rather than address the problems in their own backyards. 
Others attempted to develop better community relations, though changes were 
hard to sustain. Spurred by an unprecedented crime wave in 1996, University of 
Pennsylvania President Judith Rodin knew that the time for urgent action had 
arrived, and she set a new course of proactive community engagement for her 
university. Her dedication to the revitalization of West Philadelphia was 
guided by her role not only as president but also as a woman and a mother with 
a deep affection for her hometown. The goal was to build capacity back into a 
severely distressed inner-city neighborhood - educational capacity, retail 
capacity, quality-of-life capacity, and especially economic capacity - guided 
by the belief that "town and gown" could unite as one richly diverse community. 
Cities rely on their academic institutions as stable places of employment, 
cultural centers, civic partners, and concentrated populations of consumers for 
local business and services. And a competitive university demands a vibrant 
neighborhood to meet the needs of its faculty, staff, and students. In keeping 
with their mission, urban universities are uniquely positioned to lead their 
communities in revitalization efforts, yet this effort requires resolute 
persistence. During Rodin's administration (1994-2004), the Chronicle of Higher 
Education referred to Penn's progress as a "national model of constructive 
town-gown interaction and partnership." This book narrates the challenges, 
frustrations, and successes of Penn's campaign, and its prospects for long-term 
change."

  Apart from the fact that Judy blatantly ripped off the slogan "Out of the 
closet and into the streets", I was shocked and appalled that the myth of Judy 
as the savior of West Philly has now been packaged in a 224 page, cloth-bound 
book, only $34.95. 

  Anybody want to go in with me to buy the book so we can have a public burning 
at the Turtle in Clark Park? If ten of us chip in, that'll only be about 3 and 
a half bucks apiece. If twenty of us chip in, even less. 

  So now Judy is enshrined as a goddess, who rode the winged horse "Market 
Forces" into our nasty ghetto hood and and "built capacity back into a severely 
distressed inner-city neighborhood". Makes me wanna hurl chunks. 

  -- 
  Ross Bender
  
http://rossbender.org/gentrification.html
 

RE: [UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it, what would be the objective?

[S. Sharrieff Ali]

Al:
 
Rather than use your choices I will answer your question more directly.
 
It was not only the presentation of Councilwoman Blackwell, but the
collective
voices in the room of multiple community representatives and residents
who 
not only supported John Fenton the man, but individually spoke about
their 
own frustrations with UCD and their polices.
 
It was puzzling for everyone to have multiple UCD representatives in the
room 
and have them purposely not engage the crowd due to their on-going
policy 
of silence. Wendell read the same statement UCD released 3 weeks ago.
 
A planning committee of community stakeholders was formed from a motion 
on the floor which carried. 
 
The purpose of the planning committee is to explore the next steps on 
behalf of the community stakeholders who were present on Thursday as
well
as designing a process to gather more information from the public who is

concerned about the UCD and its current operations.
 
The general idea behind the committee was to have the community
stakeholders
own the process and not rely on UCD or any of their partners to steer
the process
for disclosure or change.
 
Based on conversations I had conducted with committee members thus far,
at 
this stage it is premature to suggest a community forum or anything else
until we 
have actually met as a committee and put all agendas and proposals on
the table
before the organizing group.
 
After Penn's First Thursday meeting adjourned, the UC-Review offered to
assist the 
community with a public forum, but again, the planning committee has not
had its first 
meeting and no particular format or timetable has been discussed or
ratified.
 
I will post the time, date and location of the planning meeting for any
and all who would 
like to attend.
 
S
 
 
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:44 PM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it, what
would be the objective?
 
The postings about the recent "First Thursday" meeting made if fairly
clear that the message between the lines of Councilwoman's presentation
was that the NID initiative is dead.
 
However, there were a few things posted about the possibility of a
"community meeting" on the topic. It wasn't at all clear who wanted such
a meeting:
a) Mrs Blackwell
b) Penn/UCD
c) people in the community based on what they might have thought before
the Councilwoman's presentation, 
d) people in the community based on what they might have thought after
the Councilwoman's presentation.
e) other
 
Also, dependent on the answer to the above, what would be the objective
and the deliverable of such a meeting?
 
Always at your service & ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman



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Re: [UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it, what would be the objective?

[Anthony West]

It was (d), Al. The motions came from the floor.

And it wasn't specifically about the NID, which is of no relevance to the UCD 
services currently spearheaded in the community by John Fenton. The meeting 
made clear these UCD services have been warmly appreciated by many community 
groups. But there were also grievances about UCD, which people didn't go into 
in detail -- in part because Glenn Bryan firmly steered groups away from these 
issues as too far off topic for that particular meeting, which had a previously 
established agenda that had nothing to do with UCD.

The "objective" of such a meeting, I suppose, would be to elicit community 
concerns and desiderata about UCD in particular, or any other special service 
district.for University City, in a forum not shaped by UCD itself.

It's hard to say what its deliverable would be, although it would certainly 
carry some weight in Councilwoman Blackwell's eyes.

-- Tony West
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:43 PM
  Subject: [UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it, what would 
be the objective?


  The postings about the recent "First Thursday" meeting made if fairly clear 
that the message between the lines of Councilwoman's presentation was that the 
NID initiative is dead.

  However, there were a few things posted about the possibility of a "community 
meeting" on the topic. It wasn't at all clear who wanted such a meeting:
  a) Mrs Blackwell
  b) Penn/UCD
  c) people in the community based on what they might have thought before the 
Councilwoman's presentation, 
  d) people in the community based on what they might have thought after the 
Councilwoman's presentation.
  e) other

  Also, dependent on the answer to the above, what would be the objective and 
the deliverable of such a meeting?

  Always at your service & ready for a dialog,
  Al Krigman





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Re: [UC] Question for SHCA Board

[Glenn]

"But sometimes I'm dumb like that"

Pmuye,

You don't mind if I call you, Pmuye, for short?  It's your buddy here and I 
don't want you to be so hard on yourself.

You cheeky devil, you aren't trying to be a wanker are you?

Yes, I know how to get in touch with the current gang over at SHCA.  They claim 
to represent the neighborhood in which I live and I'm frightenend by them.  I 
think the Prez is still the former FOCP Prez I know.  

But my question and request for help is by no means limited to the current 
gang.  I think more of the exciting elections and discussions about the 3 
choices sent to UCD probably happened several years ago, 2003, 2002,etc.  You 
may have missed the fact that UCD chose the same "community representative" for 
SHCA for several years.

I would be especially interested in stories from people who refuse to give any 
more money to SHCA.  Like me, there might be others out there furious that they 
didn't hear about this "3 choice" paradigm for the anointing of the local lord. 
 Just my opinion, but had the SHCA leaders chosen to take an honorable path 
when UCD started the occupation, there would have been a front page news story 
about this return of feudalism?  

There might be folks out there reading who have SHCA stories to share.  Now 
that some list wankers seem to have retreated a bit with their ganging up, I 
hope decent folks feel empowered to tell their stories.  If they do and the 
wankers start wanking, I hope you'll join me and come to the defense of posters 
sharing their honest experiences. 

I am especially interested in anyone who has a similar finding to that I have 
with FOCP.  If they say:

 "I tried with those _ at SHCA for a long time.  I would not give that 
group one penny and here is why..."

I hope you better understand this public request for information, Pmuye.

Your buddy,

Nnelg



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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:39 PM
  Subject: Fwd: [UC] Question for SHCA Board


  Glenn,
  If you really 1) want to get a response from the supposed addressee and 
2) really want the information, may I make a little suggestion or two?  First, 
SHCA is pretty easy to find on the internet.  If you're (not your) not familiar 
with search engines or Google, here's a link that you can use to start your 
(not you're) excellent investigation:  http://www.sprucehillca.org/  You won't 
believe it, but you'll actually find things like newsletters, minutes and the 
date, time and place of the next meeting.  They even have their by-laws posted 
although not, apparently, all of their policies, protocols and MO's.
  Second, and no less important for the good communication I know you 
strive for, they have an official organizational e-mail address.  So you could 
actually send the request to the org rather than this list serve.  It reminds 
me of how one can publish a notice in the newspaper of a lawsuit when you have 
trouble actually giving a copy to the defendant.  I always wonder who in the 
heck reads legal notices and what the odds are that the right person would see 
the notice of the suit.  But sometimes I'm dumb like that.  Oh, and a bonus: 
there is a list of the board officers and members.  Some are on the list and 
you could write to them directly as well.
  Good luck on your quest.  Enjoy your research.  And remember what 
Chairman Mao said.

  Paul





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  From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
  Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:33 am
  Subject: [UC] Question for SHCA Board


  Dear SHCA Board members,
  It has come to the attention of the citizens of West Philadelphia that civic 
association boards were required to give the names of three of their 
association board members in order to be given a "representative" on the UCD 
Board. I’ve noticed that your, Barry Grossbach, has been chosen by UCD since 
the beginning and he has been listed as a "community representative" for years.
  Could someone give me the names of the other two SHCA candidates in the 
years, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, and 1999? I’m sure that 
these names were reported in the newsletter to members. So if anyone could give 
me the links to these newsletter reports, that would be sufficient. Did the 
board have an election to choose the three names or was there a different 
process?  Did UCD interview each candidate to assess compliance?
  Also could someone explain why the Spruce Hill Civic Association 
representative is called a "community representative" on the UCD web site?  I 
honestly think someone from the association needs to send a letter to UCD 
explaining that this, "community representative" is a very inappropriate title 
and have it removed.  
  UCD is making your association look very bad.  There is a new term for the 
phenomenon, astroturfing, and it is a claim to fake grass roots support.
  Thanks for the help,
 

[UC] Out of the Ivory Tower and Into the Streets

[Ross Bender]

I was just reading an article in the New York Review of Books titled "The
Women and the Gods", a review of "Portrait of a Priestess: Women and Ritual
in Ancient Greece" when an ad for books on "Urban Studies from Penn Press"
caught my eye. First item on the list was a book by our own Judy Rodin
titled "The University and Urban Revival: Out of the Ivory Tower and Into
the Streets." I hurried to Amazon.com and found this "synopsis":

"In the last quarter of the twentieth century, urban colleges and
universities found themselves enveloped by the poverty, crime, and physical
decline that afflicted American cities. Some institutions turned inward,
trying to insulate themselves rather than address the problems in their own
backyards. Others attempted to develop better community relations, though
changes were hard to sustain. Spurred by an unprecedented crime wave in
1996, University of Pennsylvania President Judith Rodin knew that the time
for urgent action had arrived, and she set a new course of proactive
community engagement for her university. Her dedication to the
revitalization of West Philadelphia was guided by her role not only as
president but also as a woman and a mother with a deep affection for her
hometown. The goal was to build capacity back into a severely distressed
inner-city neighborhood - educational capacity, retail capacity,
quality-of-life capacity, and especially economic capacity - guided by the
belief that "town and gown" could unite as one richly diverse community.
Cities rely on their academic institutions as stable places of employment,
cultural centers, civic partners, and concentrated populations of consumers
for local business and services. And a competitive university demands a
vibrant neighborhood to meet the needs of its faculty, staff, and students.
In keeping with their mission, urban universities are uniquely positioned to
lead their communities in revitalization efforts, yet this effort requires
resolute persistence. During Rodin's administration (1994-2004), the
Chronicle of Higher Education referred to Penn's progress as a "national
model of constructive town-gown interaction and partnership." This book
narrates the challenges, frustrations, and successes of Penn's campaign, and
its prospects for long-term change."

Apart from the fact that Judy blatantly ripped off the slogan "Out of the
closet and into the streets", I was shocked and appalled that the myth of
Judy as the savior of West Philly has now been packaged in a 224 page,
cloth-bound book, only $34.95.

Anybody want to go in with me to buy the book so we can have a public
burning at the Turtle in Clark Park? If ten of us chip in, that'll only be
about 3 and a half bucks apiece. If twenty of us chip in, even less.

So now Judy is enshrined as a goddess, who rode the winged horse "Market
Forces" into our nasty ghetto hood and and "built capacity back into a
severely distressed inner-city neighborhood". Makes me wanna hurl chunks.

--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org/gentrification.html

Re: [UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it, what would be the objective?

[Glenn]

Al,

I would say #4.  My opinion about and my own reason for supporting the motion 
was to demand accountability.  Of course if UCD continues to stonewall or 
refuses to show up, I would imagine that the discussion at such a community 
forum would turn to, how do we get rid of UCD?

I know that I want answers about so many things.  Think of all the questions 
that UCD refused to answer at their tightly controlled NID presentations.  Now 
that UCD has been publicly exposed through reports of this illegal activity, 
the time for answers is immediate.

It is my understanding that the UC Review has volunteered to bring together 
such a community forum.  Also a number of folks signed a contact list which was 
passed around to assist which I signed.

We've seen the UCD presentations.  I'd like to see a community forum not under 
the control of UCD. A time when the people from this community could ask any 
questions, demand any answers, and express their outrage over any UCD policy 
like the recently revealed "3 choice" policy with the civic organizations.

I'd like to see the UCD board and executives, Councilwoman Blackwell and media 
organizations attend.  I've noticed that the Councilwoman seems always ready to 
attend these types of community meetings when important community issues arise. 
 I appreciate that about her.

I predict that UCD will blow the opportunity and refuse to attend or stonewall. 
 When we ride them out of the village on a rail, no one but your buddy, Melani, 
will shed a tear.

I was glad to see the general support for having such a community forum.  I was 
extremely pleased to see our local paper rise to the occasion.  I'll be happy 
to help with this effort in any way that I can.  I'd like to see a well run and 
fair meeting occur. 

My take on this to date,
Glenn  
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:43 PM
  Subject: [UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it, what would 
be the objective?


  The postings about the recent "First Thursday" meeting made if fairly clear 
that the message between the lines of Councilwoman's presentation was that the 
NID initiative is dead.

  However, there were a few things posted about the possibility of a "community 
meeting" on the topic. It wasn't at all clear who wanted such a meeting:
  a) Mrs Blackwell
  b) Penn/UCD
  c) people in the community based on what they might have thought before the 
Councilwoman's presentation, 
  d) people in the community based on what they might have thought after the 
Councilwoman's presentation.
  e) other

  Also, dependent on the answer to the above, what would be the objective and 
the deliverable of such a meeting?

  Always at your service & ready for a dialog,
  Al Krigman





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[UC] Talk of a "community meeting" -- who requested it, what would be the objective?

[Krfapt]

The postings about the recent "First Thursday" meeting made if fairly  clear 
that the message between the lines of Councilwoman's presentation was  that 
the NID initiative is dead.
 
However, there were a few things posted about the possibility of a  
"community meeting" on the topic. It wasn't at all clear who wanted such a  
meeting:
a) Mrs Blackwell
b) Penn/UCD
c) people in the community based on what they might have thought  before the 
Councilwoman's presentation, 
d) people in the community based on what they might have thought after the  
Councilwoman's presentation.
e) other
 
Also, dependent on the answer to the above, what would be the objective and  
the deliverable of such a meeting?
 
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Al  Krigman



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[UC] FS: Casablanca ceiling fan

[Jeff Abrahamson]

I have a Casablanca ceiling fan I need to pass on to someone else.
I'm asking $100, but price is negotiable: it will go to the best
offer.  It's a reasonably high-end fan, albeit used.  Five (or six?)
speed, plus reversible direction (at all speeds). Self-balancing and
mountable on any pitch surface.  Here's a picture, with two blades
removed (sitting outside the frame) so it can sit in my closet:

http://jeff.purple.com/sale/sm/20070507-101042-5711.jpg

For more professional photos, see this page, which shows a fan very
much like mine, except that mine has a nifty wall controller instead
of a pull chain:

http://www.ceilingfan.com/Casablanca_ceiling_fan_capistrano.htm

The fan wires with just two wires, so it can be placed anywhere where
there is an overhead light fixture. You can't have the light fixture
and the fan at the same time.

All is in excellent condition.

Reply to me directly rather than to the list, please.

-- 
 Jeff

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Fwd: [UC] Question for SHCA Board

[pmuyehara]

 Glenn,
    If you really 1) want to get a response from the supposed addressee and 2) 
really want the information, may I make a little suggestion or two?  First, 
SHCA is pretty easy to find on the internet.  If you're (not your) not familiar 
with search engines or Google, here's a link that you can use to start your 
(not you're) excellent investigation:  http://www.sprucehillca.org/  You won't 
believe it, but you'll actually find things like newsletters, minutes and the 
date, time and place of the next meeting.  They even have their by-laws posted 
although not, apparently, all of their policies, protocols and MO's.
    Second, and no less important for the good communication I know you strive 
for, they have an official organizational e-mail address.  So you could 
actually send the request to the org rather than this list serve.  It reminds 
me of how one can publish a notice in the newspaper of a lawsuit when you have 
trouble actually giving a copy to the defendant.  I always wonder who in the 
heck reads legal notices and what the odds are that the right person would see 
the notice of the suit.  But sometimes I'm dumb like that.  Oh, and a bonus: 
there is a list of the board officers and members.  Some are on the list and 
you could write to them directly as well.
    Good luck on your quest.  Enjoy your research.  And remember what Chairman 
Mao said.

Paul


 


 

-Original Message-
From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:33 am
Subject: [UC] Question for SHCA Board


















Dear SHCA Board members,


It has come to the attention of the citizens of West Philadelphia that civic 
association boards were required to give the names of three of their 
association 
board members in order to be given a "representative" on the UCD Board. I’ve 
noticed that your, Barry Grossbach, has been chosen by UCD since the beginning 
and he has been listed as a "community representative" for years.


Could someone give me the names of the other two SHCA candidates in the 
years, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, and 1999? I’m sure that 
these names were reported in the newsletter to members. So if anyone could give 
me the links to these newsletter reports, that would be sufficient. Did the 
board have an election to choose the three names or was there a different 
process?  Did UCD interview each candidate to assess compliance?


Also could someone explain why the Spruce Hill Civic Association 
representative is called a "community representative" on the UCD web site?  
I honestly think someone from the association needs to send a letter to UCD 
explaining that this, "community representative" is a very inappropriate 
title and have it removed.  


UCD is making your association look very bad.  There is a new term for 
the phenomenon, astroturfing, and it is a claim to fake grass roots support.


Thanks for the help,


Glenn Moyer


PS: I noticed that the Squirrel Hill Civic Association does not have a UCD 
Board member. I’d like to publicly thank you and express my admiration of your 
association for not selling out the citizens of your 
area.


 



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[UC] Anyone know the community reps?

[Glenn]

The following community representatives are listed on UCD web site as UCD Board 
members Dorothy Welch Berlind (Cedar Park), Barry L. Grossbach (Spruce Hill 
Civic Association), Michael Jones (Powelton Village), Mark Mendenhall (Garden 
Court), Earl Williams (Walnut Hill).

Does anyone know them well enough to ask for a progress report on the "internal 
investigation" being conducted by the UCD Board? I wouldn't want to approach 
them because my character has been attacked so thoroughly in our local area 
that I might be perceived as a troublemaker.

But if any one on the list knows them, perhaps, they would tell us what they 
know about the UCD internal investigation so that we could stop speculating and 
get some disclosure? It could well be that these "community representatives" 
have been excluded from the process and know nothing about an investigation.

If that were all they know, that would make an honest report. I know I would 
very much appreciate an honest report from a community representative of this 
investigating body, the UCD Board.

Thanks to anyone from the effected civic associations for any help which you 
can provide. I'm glad we've gotten past the incivility on the list to honestly 
question and discuss our issues as mature and responsible citizens.

Sincerely,

Glenn

[UC] Question for SHCA Board

[Glenn]

Dear SHCA Board members,

It has come to the attention of the citizens of West Philadelphia that civic 
association boards were required to give the names of three of their 
association board members in order to be given a "representative" on the UCD 
Board. I've noticed that your, Barry Grossbach, has been chosen by UCD since 
the beginning and he has been listed as a "community representative" for years.

Could someone give me the names of the other two SHCA candidates in the years, 
2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, and 1999? I'm sure that these 
names were reported in the newsletter to members. So if anyone could give me 
the links to these newsletter reports, that would be sufficient. Did the board 
have an election to choose the three names or was there a different process?  
Did UCD interview each candidate to assess compliance?

Also could someone explain why the Spruce Hill Civic Association representative 
is called a "community representative" on the UCD web site?  I honestly think 
someone from the association needs to send a letter to UCD explaining that 
this, "community representative" is a very inappropriate title and have it 
removed.  

UCD is making your association look very bad.  There is a new term for the 
phenomenon, astroturfing, and it is a claim to fake grass roots support.

Thanks for the help,

Glenn Moyer

PS: I noticed that the Squirrel Hill Civic Association does not have a UCD 
Board member. I'd like to publicly thank you and express my admiration of your 
association for not selling out the citizens of your area.

Re: [UC] Is this what email fakery looks like?

[Glenn]

West,

I see that I have 2 addresses for your assistant, Jonathon Snyder.  I made a 
mistake.  I decided to send it to Snyder at the last moment.  I have no respect 
for him or Siano so I wasn't concerned about communicating with them like with 
the responsible adults in the association.

Please forward my request to have you removed from the FOCP for your public lie 
while representing the FOCP.

Thank you,
Glenn Moyer
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony West 
  To: UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:39 PM
  Subject: [UC] Is this what email fakery looks like?


  Here's an obscure detail about Glenn's UC-list posts that I've been eyeing 
for the past two years.

  Occasionally he starts to post these weird "Official Communication to FoCP" 
epistles. Ever since its current President, Jonathan Snyder, took over in oct 
2005, Glenn has added the email address below, [EMAIL PROTECTED], to make it 
appear as if he is communicating directly with FoCP's president.

  But he never has. That's not, in fact, Jonathan's email account and it never 
was. Jonathan has never read any of these emails from Glenn because Glenn has 
been misaddressing them from the beginning.

  I make typos all the time and usually think nothing of other people's ytpso. 
But I have to note that Glenn's been going for nearly two years without a 
response, so you'd think he might have bestirred himself to track down the real 
addie after 21 months. Maybe it's just not the kind of fact he's good at 
learning and reporting: basic facts about the people he's dealing with.

  -- Tony West
- Original Message - 
From: Glenn 
To: Mathew Grubel ; Frank L. Chance ; Lewis Mellman ; Doc Baldy ; erin 
engelstad ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:13 AM
Subject: [UC] Official Correspondence to FOCP


I am forwarding this request to the University City listserv in the 
interest of public disclosure.

Dear FOCP,



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Re: [UC] Hauling service recommendations?

[SKnight]

Please send this info to the list so others will have it.
Thanks,
Sande Knight
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stephanie M. Strassel 
  To: UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 10:48 AM
  Subject: [UC] Hauling service recommendations?


  Does anyone have recommendations for a local service to help me carry 
  some very heavy furniture from the second floor to the basement and vice 
  versa, and to haul away some junk cluttering up my garage?

  Thanks,
  Steph
  
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Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

[SKnight]

I would to.  It would clarify so much.
Sande Knight
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
UnivCity@list.purple.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)



  In a message dated 6/9/07 1:44:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

ucd also: 



markets us, 



brands us, 



kicks businesses out and installs others, 



programs our entertainments,



occupies our public spaces, 



populates our public buildings,
puts their agendas into our neighborhood associations, 



steps between our relationship with our elected governing
mechanisms, 



etc. etc.


  Ray, I'd really appreciate it if you can give us an example of all or some of 
the above, with an explanation of how each has affected the neighborhood. 

  Thanks,

  Melani




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  Urban & Bye, Realtor
  3529 Lancaster Ave.
  Philadelphia, PA 19104
  cell phone 215-356-7266
  office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113
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[UC] update on free speech

[Glenn]

Folks.  The police commissioner didn't show up for the meeting scheduled with 
the ACLU and the brave citizens whom are being intimidated and arrested in 
Rittenhouse Square.  They sent a group of top brass instead with a "we're 
looking into the issue" response.

Consequently, the leaders and ACLU advisors are asking us to send the lettters 
to the editor and to city council in support of keeping the 1st amendment to 
the Constitution here in Philadelphia.  I couldn't stay for the rally, so I 
can't report how things went yesterday.  

I wonder how much tax payer money has been wasted on this police harassment 
going on in Rittenhouse Square?  At the first rally, I would estimate there 
were at least a dozen to twenty cops and supervisors ready to arrest us as we 
sang God Bless America.  Is this the solution to crime?

Back in 2001-2002,the UCD and FOCP tried to force event organizers in Clark 
Park to pay for police squads so that the FOCP could have the people arrested 
on command.  I previously explained this to the listserv.  It was the attempted 
requirement of imposing the "Special Events Review Committee" through the 
demands of the UCD/FOCP hand picked "Quality of Life Task Force"   Tony West 
was not there, but of course, he has already given you a complete description 
of my lies on this matter.

Those opposed to elimination of Constitutional rights, please write some 
letters.

Sincerely,

Glenn