Re: Livecode for Digital Signage

2011-05-27 Thread Jim Schaubeck
Thanks Bill!
For the first one, that may be a good alternative. I have not tested it but I 
do appreciate the idea.  I#39;ll try it. It complicates the process of 
updating the text a bit but I may have to figure out a way to automate that 
part if i can not get the text scrolling smooth. I#39;ve had someone tell me 
it runs smooth on a power Mac so that test is next

Appreciate the tip, Bill!

Jim...
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Question about Object Names

2011-05-27 Thread Todd Geist
Hello,

I am confused by an inconsistency I am seeing. I think it points to
something I missing about object names and references.

Using the Object Inspector you can set the name of a card, for example,  to
MyCardName

But when you retrieve the name of the object in line of code you get back
the object type followed by the name in Quotes, like this

*put *the name of the this card into tCard


- card MyCardName


Why?


Thanks

Todd




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Re: download and save a file

2011-05-27 Thread stephen barncard
Richmond,
Have you actually made a request to the Cyberduck people for a Linux version
?

I know there will never be a 'nix version of Outlook, but the Duck is FOSS
(GNU).


http://trac.cyberduck.ch/browser


sqb



 On 27 May 2011 07:26, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 05/27/2011 05:15 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 Cyberduck 4  is now cross-platform/

 http://cyberduck.ch/

  No, it isn't. It is only available for Mac and Windows.


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 San Francisco Ca. USA

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Re: download and save a file

2011-05-27 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 05/27/2011 06:02 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

Richmond,
Have you actually made a request to the Cyberduck people for a Linux version
?


No, I haven't, because there are several perfectly good Linux FTP 
clients around.


I was actually picking holes in your 'cross platform' claim, rather 
than anything about

CyberDuck qua CyberDuck.

'Cross-platform', with the flourishing of perfectly good OSes other than 
Windows and Mac
(whether one considers Windows a 'perfectly good' OS is another bone we 
can chew on for ages),

has become rather ambiguous . . .

. . . c.f. claims made by RunRev . . .

Perhaps 'cross-platform' is a term best avoided.

I know there will never be a 'nix version of Outlook, but the Duck is FOSS
(GNU).


http://trac.cyberduck.ch/browser


sqb





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Re: Question about Object Names

2011-05-27 Thread Todd Geist
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:

 For example, you can call the numToChar function using either of these two
 forms:

  numToChar(128)
  the numToChar of 128

 Meanwhile, the sum function can only be called using function syntax:

  sum(1,2,3) -- works
  the sum of 1,2,3 -- throws an error


Is there a pattern at all in when one is form is not allowed?

In the example you gave, the sum function takes a list of numbers, where the
numToChar takes a single item.

Todd





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Re: Question about Object Names

2011-05-27 Thread Richard Gaskin

Todd Geist wrote:


On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

For example, you can call the numToChar function using either of these two
forms:

 numToChar(128)
 the numToChar of 128

Meanwhile, the sum function can only be called using function syntax:

 sum(1,2,3) -- works
 the sum of 1,2,3 -- throws an error


Is there a pattern at all in when one is form is not allowed?

In the example you gave, the sum function takes a list of numbers, where the
numToChar takes a single item.


There may be a pattern; I'm sure it made sense to whomever came up with 
that sometimes rule at the time.


But for myself the problem is easily worked around:  I usually just 
ignore the capability of using property syntax for function calls.


I find it much clearer to read code in which functions are called using 
function syntax and properties are accessed using property syntax.


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Re: Question about Object Names

2011-05-27 Thread Devin Asay

On May 27, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

 Todd Geist wrote:
 
 On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
 For example, you can call the numToChar function using either of these two
 forms:
 
 numToChar(128)
 the numToChar of 128
 
 Meanwhile, the sum function can only be called using function syntax:
 
 sum(1,2,3) -- works
 the sum of 1,2,3 -- throws an error
 
 Is there a pattern at all in when one is form is not allowed?
 
 In the example you gave, the sum function takes a list of numbers, where the
 numToChar takes a single item.
 
 There may be a pattern; I'm sure it made sense to whomever came up with 
 that sometimes rule at the time.

My understanding is that the 2nd, prose or property, form can only be used 
with functions that require 0 or 1 arguments. All others require the 
funtion(n) form. And the prose form is only allowed for native LiveCode 
functions, not for user-defined functions.

Have you seen any counter examples to this rule?

Devin


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Brigham Young University


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[ANN] Live LiveCode code event #25

2011-05-27 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Hi all

The event continues to churn on, this time with GUI-Superstar Scott Rossi. He 
will show us more information about his tmControl suite of custom controls, 
that is currently being developed for desktop and mobile. Note that once 
finished, this commercial add-on will allow you to have any style of non-native 
object set, perfectly matched and beautiful enough for the heavens.
http://livecode.tv/scott/

Keith Clarke wil be presenting, using his expertise in MVC architecture 
patterns, to decide what to code where in LiveCode, for web services. He'll 
cover misusing the message path and a very nice PDF :)
http://livecode.tv/keith/


Connect to ChatRev ( http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ), and watch the events at 
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Oslo Sat 20:00
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Remember that there's tons of materials available on http//livecode.tv/ already.

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Re: Question about Object Names

2011-05-27 Thread Richard Gaskin

Devin Asay wrote:


On May 27, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Todd Geist wrote:


On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

For example, you can call the numToChar function using either of these two
forms:

numToChar(128)
the numToChar of 128

Meanwhile, the sum function can only be called using function syntax:

sum(1,2,3) -- works
the sum of 1,2,3 -- throws an error


Is there a pattern at all in when one is form is not allowed?

In the example you gave, the sum function takes a list of numbers, where the
numToChar takes a single item.


There may be a pattern; I'm sure it made sense to whomever came up with
that sometimes rule at the time.


My understanding is that the 2nd, prose or property, form can only be used with functions that 
require 0 or 1 arguments. All others require the funtion(n) form. And the prose form is only 
allowed for native LiveCode functions, not for user-defined functions.

Have you seen any counter examples to this rule?


I can't think of any offhand.

But it's still not how I would design a language. ;)

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Re: Question about Object Names

2011-05-27 Thread Bob Sneidar
Well we can all at least be thankful that it is not how a woman would design a 
language either. Can you imagine having to hint at something and then the 
computer has to figure out what you really meant? ;-)

send there sure are a lot of numbers around here not doing anything right now 
to sum

function sum
   look around
   gather numbers whose layingaround is true
   repeat with i = 1 to the number of numbers laying around
  add number i to theSum
   end repeat

   look around some more
   if the result is true then
  send I'm not your personal adding machine! to sum with Here we go 
again!
   end if

   return the sum with hopes you got them all
end sum
   

Bob


On May 27, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

 My understanding is that the 2nd, prose or property, form can only be 
 used with functions that require 0 or 1 arguments. All others require the 
 funtion(n) form. And the prose form is only allowed for native LiveCode 
 functions, not for user-defined functions.
 
 Have you seen any counter examples to this rule?
 
 I can't think of any offhand.
 
 But it's still not how I would design a language. ;)
 
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Re: Question about Object Names

2011-05-27 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 05/27/2011 08:54 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Well we can all at least be thankful that it is not how a woman would design a 
language either. Can you imagine having to hint at something and then the 
computer has to figure out what you really meant? ;-)


Nothing like a bit of sexual stereotyping.


send there sure are a lot of numbers around here not doing anything right now 
to sum

function sum
look around
gather numbers whose layingaround is true
repeat with i = 1 to the number of numbers laying around
   add number i to theSum
end repeat

look around some more
if the result is true then
   send I'm not your personal adding machine! to sum with Here we go 
again!
end if

return the sum with hopes you got them all
end sum


Bob


On May 27, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


My understanding is that the 2nd, prose or property, form can only be used with functions that 
require 0 or 1 arguments. All others require the funtion(n) form. And the prose form is only 
allowed for native LiveCode functions, not for user-defined functions.

Have you seen any counter examples to this rule?

I can't think of any offhand.

But it's still not how I would design a language. ;)

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Re: Importing Unicode text to a field .. How?

2011-05-27 Thread Sivakatirswami



replace uniencode(numtochar(13)) with uniencode(numtochar(10))

That doesn't work either, it does nothing

Richmond... these are pure unicode text files. not RTF or HTML... They open 
fine in Pages or text edit, I get Tamil as expected and proper endlines as expected. I 
can also copy and paste from those programs into a LiveCode field and it works... I get 
tamil with end lines.

Sivakatirswami





On 5/24/11 11:45 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

Hi Sivakatirswami,

Maybe you need to replace the cr's: replace uniencode(numtochar(13)) with 
uniencode(numtochar(10)). Just a guess.



Op 25 mei 2011 om 07:17 heeft Sivakatirswamika...@hindu.org  het volgende 
geschreven:


Namaste, Slava:

I tried that too, but I lose all the CR's...I get one long line in the LiveCode 
field, but if I paste it here into the email  the CRLF's come back!

Or if I copy from Pages.. the CR's are preserved...

If I try to process the CR in the usual way, I get them back in the field but 
the text becomes garbled again

on mouseup
   answer file Choose the Unicode for this song with OK
   put url (binfile:/  it) into tUnicode
   set the useUnicode to true
  set the unicodetext of  fld Unicode_Script to  tUnicode
end mouseup

#  THE FOLLOWING IS A SINGLE LINE IN THE LC FIELD:

Converted from மயிலை text in /Users/sivakatirswami/Documents/Tamil/Natchintanai 
in Unicode/3 Thannai Thannaal.txt தன்னைத்தன்னால்தன்னைத் தன்னால் அறிந்திட 
வேண்டுமேதானா யெங்குஞ் செறிந்திட வேண்டுமே[snip]

on mouseup
   answer file Choose the Unicode for this song with OK
   put url (binfile:/  it) into tUnicode
   set the useUnicode to true
  set the unicodetext of  fld Unicode_Script to  tUnicode
  replace numtochar(13) with numtochar(10) in fld unicode_Script
   # the above line restores the line breaks but destroys the text... or 
rather, converts it to some other encoding displays Japanese characters
end mouseup

C
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Re: Importing Unicode text to a field .. How?

2011-05-27 Thread Richmond Mathewson

On 05/27/2011 10:34 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote:



replace uniencode(numtochar(13)) with uniencode(numtochar(10))

That doesn't work either, it does nothing

Richmond... these are pure unicode text files. not RTF or HTML... 
They open fine in Pages or text edit, I get Tamil as expected and 
proper endlines as expected. I can also copy and paste from those 
programs into a LiveCode field and it works... I get tamil with end 
lines.


Please send me one of the documents  the font offlist; and I will play 
around a bit . . .  :)


Sivakatirswami




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Re: Importing Unicode text to a field .. How?

2011-05-27 Thread stephen barncard
FYI The Tamil text renders perfectly in Google Mail and Safari.

On 27 May 2011 13:04, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 Something just occurred to me . . .


 #  THE FOLLOWING IS A SINGLE LINE IN THE LC FIELD:

 Converted from மயிலை text in
 /Users/sivakatirswami/Documents/Tamil/Natchintanai in Unicode/3 Thannai
 Thannaal.txt தன்னைத்தன்னால்தன்னைத் தன்னால் அறிந்திட வேண்டுமேதானா
 யெங்குஞ் செறிந்திட வேண்டுமே[snip]


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Re: Importing Unicode text to a field .. How?

2011-05-27 Thread Bob Sneidar
Looks good in Apple Mail too. Bit smallish tho. 

Bob


On May 27, 2011, at 1:49 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 FYI The Tamil text renders perfectly in Google Mail and Safari.
 
 On 27 May 2011 13:04, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Something just occurred to me . . .
 
 
 #  THE FOLLOWING IS A SINGLE LINE IN THE LC FIELD:
 
 Converted from மயிலை text in
 /Users/sivakatirswami/Documents/Tamil/Natchintanai in Unicode/3 Thannai
 Thannaal.txt தன்னைத்தன்னால்தன்னைத் தன்னால் அறிந்திட வேண்டுமேதானா
 யெங்குஞ் செறிந்திட வேண்டுமே[snip]
 
 
 Stephen Barncard
 San Francisco Ca. USA
 
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2011-05-27 Thread Jim Ault

How?
watch videos, ask questions, get answers - the same day

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Re: Importing Unicode text to a field .. How?

2011-05-27 Thread Web Admin Himalayan Academy

 nope... that replacement does nothing...

on mouseup
   answer file Choose the Unicode for this song with OK
   if the result =cancel then exit mouseup
   set the useUnicode to true
   set the unicodetext of fld Unicode_Script to url (binfile:/  it)
  # result: Tamil appears fine, but all one line

   replace numtochar(13) with numToChar(8232) in fld Unicode_Script
   #does nothing

end mouseup



for others who are interested in trying:

See if you can import any of these three files into a Live Code field 
(on the Mac you should have InaiMathi installed by default with the 
system, if you have Arial MS Unicode alive on the box it should also work.)


http://www.himalayanacademy.com/livecode/Unicode-Tamil.zip

has three files of pure unicode that works in all programs including 
LiveCode fields but only if you paste it in.


Goal: import by script.

Sivakatirswami




On 5/27/11 10:04 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Unicode text is double-byte stuff, while the CR and LF are single-byte 
things.


SO . . . double-byte strings SHOULD always consist of an even number 
of bytes,


AND, if a text field is flagged as containing unicodeText when the 
engine starts reading its contents

it will start taking double-byte bites of the string.

THEREFORE, inserting either numToChar(10) or numToChar(13) into a 
double-byte text will
throw the engine out of kilter because it will start biting 
double-bytes off.


TAKE A LOOK at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline

and, just possibly, you need to replace you CR/LF with :

numToChar(8232)

worth a try . . .



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Re: Importing Unicode text to a field .. How?

2011-05-27 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 5/27/11 9:55 PM, Web Admin Himalayan Academy wrote:

nope... that replacement does nothing...

on mouseup
answer file Choose the Unicode for this song with OK
if the result =cancel then exit mouseup
set the useUnicode to true
set the unicodetext of fld Unicode_Script to url (binfile:/  it)
# result: Tamil appears fine, but all one line

replace numtochar(13) with numToChar(8232) in fld Unicode_Script
#does nothing

end mouseup


It was close though. LiveCode uses ascii 10 instead of ascii 13 for line 
endings. Those are converted automatically when you paste, but not when 
you put text into a field by script. So just replace cr with unix line 
endings and it works:


on mouseUp
  set the textfont of fld 1 to InaiMathi,Unicode
  answer file Choose the Unicode for this song with OK
  if the result cancel then
get url (binfile:  it)
replace numtochar(13) with numtochar(10) in it
set the unicodetext of fld 1 to it
  end if
end mouseUp

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Re: Importing Unicode text to a field .. How?

2011-05-27 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 5/27/11 9:55 PM, Web Admin Himalayan Academy wrote:

nope... that replacement does nothing...


BTW, I think Richmond doesn't have any trouble with unicode lines 
because he's working on a Linux machine, so his line endings are already 
ascii 10. It would take a Windows or Mac user to notice.


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