Windows 8
Hello, I wonder if anybody has reflected yet, what the windows 8 metro paradigm means for our standard LiveCode applications? I didn't downloaded yet the beta version, but I think most programs will run also under windows 8. But what would we have to change in our programs to be fully win8 compliant? It's probably not only just a Metro Icon for the App? What about making a program really touch screen compatible for tablet PCs? Making all menus, fields and fonts larger? Or what has to be done behind the screens? What will have runrev to do in livecode? Any ideas yet? Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How can I get string width?
Thanks Monte ! It works very well. The functions of formattedHeight and formattedWidth are good for me. It can work well in double-byte character. Takashi On 2012/03/05, at 11:47, Monte Goulding wrote: Do you mean the number of characters? put the number of characters of X or put length(X) Or do you mean the width in a field to take into account the font etc? put the formattedWidth of field X Cheers Monte On 05/03/2012, at 1:42 PM, 吉野 孝 wrote: Hi, Experts! How can I get string width? I would like to string width… _.__ ._ _. ._ ._.__ .. ._._. _._ . ..__ ._.__ ._._. ___. .._ __.. __ .._ Takashi Yoshino http://www.wakayama-u.ac.jp/~yoshino/lab/ Tel: +81-73-457-8441 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _.__ ._ _. ._ ._.__ .. ._._. _._ . ..__ ._.__ ._._. ___. .._ __.. __ .._ Takashi Yoshino http://www.wakayama-u.ac.jp/~yoshino/lab/ Tel: +81-73-457-8441 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How can I get string width?
Hi, Al Thank you very much. It work well with japanese language. Just for curiosity, Mr. Yoshino, Which of these softwares from Yoshino Lab was created using LiveCode? http://www.wakayama-u.ac.jp/~yoshino/lab/software/index.html Thank you for your curiosity. And sorry for only Japanese web page. We have developed M3 Multilingual Medical Reception Support System (M-cube). I am developing new system (Android devices) using LiveCode now. It is not on the page now. We have developed PC system for hospital using C#. But now I am developing the same system for Android devices. The following is the PC system. http://www.tabunkakyoto.org/multilingual-medical-system/ http://www.wakayama-u.ac.jp/~yoshino/lab/research/miyabe_2010_1/index.html http://www.tabunkakyoto.org/ぷち通訳-ict/多言語受付支援システムm3-病院設置型/ On 2012/03/05, at 13:31, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Mr. Yoshino, Takashi Yoshino wrote How can I get string width? Iwas ready to answer, when I noticed the message from Devin Asay: Try the formattedWidth of [chunk]. For example: put the formattedWidth of word 2 to 5 of fld 1 into stringWidth Hopefully this property works fine with double-byte languages. Just for curiosity, Mr. Yoshino, Which of these softwares from Yoshino Lab was created using LiveCode? http://www.wakayama-u.ac.jp/~yoshino/lab/software/index.html Have a nice week! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-can-I-get-string-width-tp971p4445141.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _.__ ._ _. ._ ._.__ .. ._._. _._ . ..__ ._.__ ._._. ___. .._ __.. __ .._ Takashi Yoshino http://www.wakayama-u.ac.jp/~yoshino/lab/ Tel: +81-73-457-8441 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Charts Engine v. Chart Maker
the store page of chartsengine does also have a trial version for you to download: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/charts-engine-1-0-4/ On 06.03.2012, at 06:17, Edward D Lavieri Jr wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know the difference between the third party add-ons Charts Engine and Chart Maker. Their descriptions in the RR Store are too brief to make a determination. I am getting to develop an App that will include graphical reports and one of these two products is probably just what I need. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Ed Lavieri e...@three19.com www.three19.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Hello, When I have opened (in the IDE) a modal stack without closebox, how can I close it by a windows keyboard shortcut? The messagebox window isn't reachable, because of the modal state of my stack. Thanks Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Hi Tiemo, If you're lucky, you can right-click in the modal dialog and change the stack mode to toplevel. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 6 mrt 2012, at 11:52, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello, When I have opened (in the IDE) a modal stack without closebox, how can I close it by a windows keyboard shortcut? The messagebox window isn't reachable, because of the modal state of my stack. Thanks Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sqlite and performances in LiveCode
The difference might be explained due to Livecode setting a smaller cache size than other applications. http://web.utk.edu/~jplyon/sqlite/SQLite_optimization_FAQ.html http://www.sqlite.org/pragma.html#pragma_cache_size I don't know if the cache size is under one's control with sqlite. I know it is with Valentina. I can't see that the call to revOpenDatabase allows a cache size to be set for sqlite. Perhaps those options can be set in a sqlite configuration file and picked up when LC makes a sqlite connection? I guess that the sqlite command line tool would enable the cache size to be set, so one could test if cache size is significant. Selecting largish result sets on Valentina, I haven't noticed any significant difference by going beyond the default cache sizes (but then since Valentian is a column-based database that might be significant). But then I don't think that 50k or even 150k is such a large result set either (of course, it would be different on a database with a huge number of columns or very wide columns). Bernard On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com wrote: I did a test with SQLiteManager 2 and when viewing all movies in the manage tab the query takes anywhere from 685 milliseconds to over 1 second (looking at the Query time at the bottom of the window). It usually stays right around 700 milliseconds, however. Results are the same if I use the SQL tab and execute the query SELECT * FROM movies. In LiveCode 4.6.4 on the same machine the same query averages around 850 milliseconds. Next I downloaded the demo version of SQLiteManager 3 and ran the same query from the Manage tab. The query took ~240 milliseconds on average. I then switched to the SQL tab and typed in SELECT * FROM movies (the query from your stack) and the query took ~450 milliseconds on average. This makes me wonder if SQLiteManager 3 is fetching data in the Manage tab using an approach other than generating a query string and passing that off to SQLite. I haven't studied the SQLite API in depth so I don't know what sorts of options are available in the C API. The equivalent of what RevDB is doing is the SQL tab in SQLite Manager. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Compiling with XCode 10.4.2, LC 5.0.2 on OSX 10.6.8
Hi Mark, I suppose you want to say XCode 4.2 ... ;-) ... please, see this post ... maybe helps ... : http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=9658 http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=9658 Guglielmo On 06.03.2012 01:39, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build an external for Mac OS X (not iOS) using ExternalsEnvironmentV3, XCode 10.4.2 and LiveCode 5.0.2 on Mac OS X 10.6.8. I'm getting many error messages complaining about SDK's that are too new and compilers that are too new and when I think that everything should work I get the error Building for Intel is not supported in 10.3.9 SDK (obviously). Could someone tell me what I need to change in the build settings of the project and the targets to get my external to compile? I've posted this on the forum as well: http://qery.us/1vf -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Compiling with XCode 10.4.2, LC 5.0.2 on OSX 10.6.8
I wrote: I'm trying to build an external for Mac OS X (not iOS) using ExternalsEnvironmentV3,... Indeed, XCode 4.2. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 6 mrt 2012, at 12:31, Guglielmo Braguglia wrote: Hi Mark, I suppose you want to say XCode 4.2 ... ;-) ... please, see this post ... maybe helps ... : http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=9658 http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=9658 Guglielmo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Compiling with XCode 10.4.2, LC 5.0.2 on OSX 10.6.8
Ooopsss ... sorry ... my mistake :) Guglielmo On 06.03.2012 12:36, Mark Schonewille wrote: I wrote: I'm trying to build an external for Mac OS X (not iOS) using ExternalsEnvironmentV3,... Indeed, XCode 4.2. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 6 mrt 2012, at 12:31, Guglielmo Braguglia wrote: Hi Mark, I suppose you want to say XCode 4.2 ... ;-) ... please, see this post ... maybe helps ... : http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=9658http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49t=9658 Guglielmo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Hi Tiemo, A work around for this situation is to test if you are in the IDE or not, as below: if the environment is development then go to card MyCard of stack MyStack else go to card MyCard of stack MyStack as modal end if - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode (v1.4.1 released 26/08/2011) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/How-to-close-a-modal-stack-by-keyboard-tp4449367p4449574.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 06/03/2012 10:52, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: When I have opened (in the IDE) a modal stack without closebox, how can I close it by a windows keyboard shortcut? The messagebox window isn't reachable, because of the modal state of my stack. I just had a quick play around... On my machine (Windows 7, LiveCode 5.x), I can bring up a new main stack, and set it to be modal (it has no buttons to close, remove or anything). Hold Ctrl-Shift, right click in the window, and you'll get a menu, where you can change the 'Stack Mode' to toplevel, where your controls come back. (On my Mac, it seems to be Command-Ctrl-Shift left-click). -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Ctrl-Shift, right click did it! Thank you! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Ken Corey Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 13:21 An: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: How to close a modal stack by keyboard? On 06/03/2012 10:52, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: When I have opened (in the IDE) a modal stack without closebox, how can I close it by a windows keyboard shortcut? The messagebox window isn't reachable, because of the modal state of my stack. I just had a quick play around... On my machine (Windows 7, LiveCode 5.x), I can bring up a new main stack, and set it to be modal (it has no buttons to close, remove or anything). Hold Ctrl-Shift, right click in the window, and you'll get a menu, where you can change the 'Stack Mode' to toplevel, where your controls come back. (On my Mac, it seems to be Command-Ctrl-Shift left-click). -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sqlite and performances in LiveCode
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that LC 5.0 included a more recent version of the sqlite library so there could be some performance improvements there. In 5.0.2 the SQLite version is 3.7.4 but it has no affect on the speed. To check the version of SQLite that is included with LiveCode I use the following code in a plugin: *on* preopenCard *put* revOpenDatabase(sqlite,) into theConn *put* revDataFromQuery(tab, cr, theConn, SELECT sqlite_version()) intotheData revCloseDatabase theConn *put* Installed SQLite version: theData into fld 1 *end* preopenCard I'm not familiar with the sqlite API either but I doubt there's any way of retrieving data other than using a SELECT command. You're probably right. I just tried SQLiteManager 3 on my primary computer and I'm seeing similar results. The Manage tab (which provides a UI for generating queries) reports that the same query is twice as fast as the SQL tab (where you enter your own query string). I'm intrigued as to why this is. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.clarify-it.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 06/03/2012 12:48, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Ctrl-Shift, right click did it! Thank you! My pleasure! One other thing: I *never* use the 'Apply' button any more. I always apply by using the 'Ctrl-S' save function. (Of course, it's Command-S on Macs). That way, when I bork the IDE, or do something silly with 'answer' or 'modal' or whatever, I am 10 seconds away from restarting LiveCode and being right where I was. This happens often enough that IMNSHO the 'Apply' button should simply be removed. I've been burned a few times by programming for 1/2 an hour, hitting 'Apply' and not saving, only for the IDE to lock, break, obscure itself with too many dialogs, or some other such thing. Teeth-gritting kinds of stuff. -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sqlite and performances in LiveCode
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: The difference might be explained due to Livecode setting a smaller cache size than other applications. http://web.utk.edu/~jplyon/sqlite/SQLite_optimization_FAQ.html http://www.sqlite.org/pragma.html#pragma_cache_size I don't know if the cache size is under one's control with sqlite. I just tried changing the cache size using the PRAGMA statement. While SQLite reports the new value I set the query speed does not change. The SQLite docs say that the value can be changed on the fly so that the value can be optimized for specific queries. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.clarify-it.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Good advice, Thanks! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Ken Corey Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 13:58 An: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard? On 06/03/2012 12:48, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Ctrl-Shift, right click did it! Thank you! My pleasure! One other thing: I *never* use the 'Apply' button any more. I always apply by using the 'Ctrl-S' save function. (Of course, it's Command-S on Macs). That way, when I bork the IDE, or do something silly with 'answer' or 'modal' or whatever, I am 10 seconds away from restarting LiveCode and being right where I was. This happens often enough that IMNSHO the 'Apply' button should simply be removed. I've been burned a few times by programming for 1/2 an hour, hitting 'Apply' and not saving, only for the IDE to lock, break, obscure itself with too many dialogs, or some other such thing. Teeth-gritting kinds of stuff. -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Font of menu on the Mac?
Hi All, I have an oddball problem. I'm using a custom font to display cursive english writing. This uses unicode characters, and non-standard glyphs (e.g. the left square bracket character U005B is a character to join between letters, not a bracket). I would like to write a little tool to let me easily compare joins between letters. I thought of three letters in a label like this: left-letter join-letter right-letter To control this just needs 3 option menus, which when selected updates the label... So I set the option buttons, and with the help of this brilliantly written article: http://livecode.byu.edu/unicode/unicodeInRev.php Have the correct letters showing in my option buttons (mostly). However, on the Mac, when I do a pull down, it reverts to the system font, which shows incorrect characters (for my purposes). Is there a way to control the font of menus on the Mac? -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iPad screenrecording: how?
This was a request at the end of last year, to which there weren't any great answers. Now there is! Reflection reflectionapp.com can act as an AirPlay receiver, displaying the result on your Mac desktop. So you can mirror from your device to the Mac, then you can make a screen recording of that. Only works with late model iPhones and iPads running iOS 5. I've been playing with it this morning, it works great. Ben On 21/12/2011 17:56, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, I want to make a screen recording of my new iPad app. How do you people do this? There are no iPad screen recording apps yet. Are there? For now I started to use the iPad simulator and use Quicktime to make a screenrecording (OSX Lion). This gives a fairly good .mov file but the sound is terrible because it uses the internal mic of my iMac. I use iMovie to do the editing. Any ideas and advice is welcome. greetings, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iPad screenrecording: how?
Unfortunately he only takes PayPal, which I don't like to use, and there isn't the usual option of paying via PayPal with a credit card, you have to log in with a PayPal account. On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: Now there is! Reflection reflectionapp.com can act as an AirPlay receiver, displaying the result on your Mac desktop. So you can mirror from your device to the Mac, then you can make a screen recording of that. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iPad screenrecording: how?
It does allow 10 minutes of use in the demo mode, which for what I need right now is fine! Have you found a way for it to show an iPad at 100%? the image is more like 852x639. It's also somewhat poor quality video when there is a lot going on. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Charts Engine v. Chart Maker
Hi, I had an extensive look at ChartsEngine and am very impressed. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 6 mrt 2012, at 07:41, Yves COPPE wrote: re, I'm using chartMaker since the product exists and am very happy with. Very good plug in. Greetings. Yves COPPE yvesco...@skynet.be ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Font of menu on the Mac?
Is there a way to control the font of menus on the Mac? Not from LC, AFAIK… you'd need an external, I'd think. I tried popping up a stack, put that doesn't work in the menu baron a Mac. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iPad screenrecording: how?
On 06/03/2012 14:22, Colin Holgate wrote: Unfortunately he only takes PayPal, which I don't like to use, and there isn't the usual option of paying via PayPal with a credit card Yes I feel the same way - I wimped out and got one of my colleagues to buy the license for me! On 06/03/2012 14:33, Colin Holgate wrote: It does allow 10 minutes of use in the demo mode, which for what I need right now is fine! Have you found a way for it to show an iPad at 100%? the image is more like 852x639. It's also somewhat poor quality video when there is a lot going on. I think part of the answer may be to get a really large monitor! (Or force orientation to landscape.) You can switch off the 'frame'; and you can adjust the size of the window (invisible grow box in the corner) - however that lets you get bigger than true size. On a 1920 x 1200 monitor, I can get the iPad screen at 864 x 1157; presumably if I fiddled around enough I could get it just right. There is a 'zoom' menu item, which seems to be like the green + button: toggle between maximum visible size and whatever the size was before; I suggest that's options for exact sizes would a good feature request (along with a paypal alternative). The missing element for me is displaying touches, which I think it would be unreasonable to ask for - I don't suppose it's in the AirPlay stream. I've been experimenting with sending touch info over the network to another LiveCode app on the Mac, that can then use a tiny 'system window' stack to show where the touch is. Sort of worked but (a) NO SOCKET SUPPORT ON IOS so I hacked it with HTTP, very inefficient and (b) my app crashes if I touch it a lot... Ben ... hoping socket support on mobile is addressed soon ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iPad screenrecording: how?
It turns out you can resize the window by dragging the corner, even if the frame is hidden. Haven't found an easy way to set it to be 1024x768. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
I don't really foresee livecode being able to build metro apps anytime in next couple of years. Chances are that livecode apps will work almost like they do in win7, but will require some tweeks to fix some of the compatibility issues with the new api. But livecode building metro apps? I just don't see runrev thinking about putting that up as any kind of priority. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Windows-8-tp4449030p4450531.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
Look Metro, Look Mountain Lion, look Mobile... I think the motto code once, deploy everywhere... should be severely reevaluated. This is not the 90s anymore. The future (if any) for livecode looks more, to me, like faceless code once, easily build a GUI for every platform. The times, they are a-changin' Best regards, François Le 6 mars 2012 à 17:57, Andrew Kluthe a écrit : I don't really foresee livecode being able to build metro apps anytime in next couple of years. Chances are that livecode apps will work almost like they do in win7, but will require some tweeks to fix some of the compatibility issues with the new api. But livecode building metro apps? I just don't see runrev thinking about putting that up as any kind of priority. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Windows-8-tp4449030p4450531.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sqlite and performances in LiveCode
I got the same results on the movies database and even more pronounced differences on a table in one of my own databases with ~48k records in it: SQL tab 0.519secs, Manage tab 0.045 secs, more than a 10-fold difference! Just a straight SELECT * in each case. Pete On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.comwrote: just tried SQLiteManager 3 on my primary computer and I'm seeing similar results. The Manage tab (which provides a UI for generating queries) reports that the same query is twice as fast as the SQL tab (where you enter your own query string). I'm intrigued as to why this is. -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: Windows 8
Hi Andrew, I am actually not in this matter yet. What do you think of, that would be necessary to build metro Apps? And which tweaks to you think of to be Win8 compatible? Do you think the current Apps won't run under Win8? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andrew Kluthe Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 17:57 An: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: Windows 8 I don't really foresee livecode being able to build metro apps anytime in next couple of years. Chances are that livecode apps will work almost like they do in win7, but will require some tweeks to fix some of the compatibility issues with the new api. But livecode building metro apps? I just don't see runrev thinking about putting that up as any kind of priority. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
Hi, I just installed an app with an installer created by the Installer Maker Plugin and it seems to work fine. The app appears in the overview of colorized bricks, next to LiveCode. It looks like LiveCode apps won't work almost like they do in Windows 7 but they will work just fine, as they do in Win XP up to and including 7. After all, Windows 8 is just like Windows 7 once you have found the door in the brick wall. The secret entrance is a brick called Desktop. The usual door in the bottom-left is gone. I hope we'll soon be able to get to the desktop on startup automatically. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 6 mrt 2012, at 17:57, Andrew Kluthe wrote: I don't really foresee livecode being able to build metro apps anytime in next couple of years. Chances are that livecode apps will work almost like they do in win7, but will require some tweeks to fix some of the compatibility issues with the new api. But livecode building metro apps? I just don't see runrev thinking about putting that up as any kind of priority. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 3/6/12 6:57 AM, Ken Corey wrote: That way, when I bork the IDE, or do something silly with 'answer' or 'modal' or whatever, I am 10 seconds away from restarting LiveCode and being right where I was. This happens often enough that IMNSHO the 'Apply' button should simply be removed. Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack. I save manually immediately after every change I want to keep. That's often enough that I rarely lose anything -- but I don't seem to have much trouble with the IDE locking up. I almost never experience it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? Pete On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:25 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
File menu, Revert to Saved... I work the same way as Jacque, other than I sometimes just close the script window and say Yes to the question about if I want to keep the changes. The main advantage of the Apply button is that you can keep the script window open while you try out different things, without committing to the changes just yet. If Undo worked as well as it does in Flash, then doing a Save wouldn't be such a big deal, you could quickly get back to how it was before the change you were trying. If you're editing an internal script in Flash, you don't even have to Apply either, the changes are already applied as soon as you've typed them. It can get away with that because Flash isn't constantly running in the way that LiveCode is. On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Boy I sure do! But it is an issue with doing something stupid like trying to make changes to code and compile it while I am still debugging using PowerDebug. Don't know if it would happen with the normal debugger so I cannot say it is power debug, and anyway the proper response to compiling code during debugging should be, Don't do that! :-) Also, having tabs open in GLX2 for a stack that has been removed from memory is another great way to lock up the IDE. Again, not sure if the stock editor would behave the same way. I just throw that out there as vectors on IDE lockups that some may not have considered yet. Also, I think Mark Wieder may have addressed this one in the latest release of GLX2. Bob On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:25 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 6:57 AM, Ken Corey wrote: That way, when I bork the IDE, or do something silly with 'answer' or 'modal' or whatever, I am 10 seconds away from restarting LiveCode and being right where I was. This happens often enough that IMNSHO the 'Apply' button should simply be removed. Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack. I save manually immediately after every change I want to keep. That's often enough that I rarely lose anything -- but I don't seem to have much trouble with the IDE locking up. I almost never experience it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Menu File/Revert To Saved... Bob On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? Pete On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:25 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
For those using GLX2, you can just hit Command-R (or CTRL-R I suspect in Windows) to revert a script to the last compiled version. Bob On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: File menu, Revert to Saved... I work the same way as Jacque, other than I sometimes just close the script window and say Yes to the question about if I want to keep the changes. The main advantage of the Apply button is that you can keep the script window open while you try out different things, without committing to the changes just yet. If Undo worked as well as it does in Flash, then doing a Save wouldn't be such a big deal, you could quickly get back to how it was before the change you were trying. If you're editing an internal script in Flash, you don't even have to Apply either, the changes are already applied as soon as you've typed them. It can get away with that because Flash isn't constantly running in the way that LiveCode is. On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS screen size problem
I have successfully created a simple app for the iPad which uses the whole screen (1024 x 768). Now I've started working on a second app, where I can't see any real difference in my setting up compared to the first one, but the screenrect is reported to be 0,0,320,480, and there's no way I can fill the iPad screen - instead I get a simulated iPhone screen in the middle of my simulated iPad screen. I checked and the Simulator thinks it's simulating an iPad - so what did I do wrong? I just can't see it. TIA for any suggestions. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
On Mar 6, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, I just installed an app with an installer created by the Installer Maker Plugin and it seems to work fine. The app appears in the overview of colorized bricks, next to LiveCode. It looks like LiveCode apps won't work almost like they do in Windows 7 but they will work just fine, as they do in Win XP up to and including 7. After all, Windows 8 is just like Windows 7 once you have found the door in the brick wall. The secret entrance is a brick called Desktop. The usual door in the bottom-left is gone. I hope we'll soon be able to get to the desktop on startup automatically. In Win8 DP1, you could set the Desktop as your staring point. Apparently, they discovered that the vast majority of developers were doing just that and ignoring the Metro screen so they removed the ability in CP1. We've ignored our customers and put far too much effort into this, so you will run Metro, and you WILL like it! Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS screen size problem
Make sure you have iPad selected in the standalone builder settings. Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com On Mar 6, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: I have successfully created a simple app for the iPad which uses the whole screen (1024 x 768). Now I've started working on a second app, where I can't see any real difference in my setting up compared to the first one, but the screenrect is reported to be 0,0,320,480, and there's no way I can fill the iPad screen - instead I get a simulated iPhone screen in the middle of my simulated iPad screen. I checked and the Simulator thinks it's simulating an iPad - so what did I do wrong? I just can't see it. TIA for any suggestions. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS screen size problem
Answered my own question: I had picked the wrong set of supported devices. I wanted iPad and iPhone, but that option doesn't exist, so I picked iPod and iPhone with a mixture of wishful thinking and foggy eyes. I don't see why my preferred option doesn't exist (for example the app might want anything with a microphone, and an iPod only has one courtesy of its earphones). Sorry for wasting your time. Graham I have successfully created a simple app for the iPad which uses the whole screen (1024 x 768). Now I've started working on a second app, where I can't see any real difference in my setting up compared to the first one, but the screenrect is reported to be 0,0,320,480, and there's no way I can fill the iPad screen - instead I get a simulated iPhone screen in the middle of my simulated iPad screen. I checked and the Simulator thinks it's simulating an iPad - so what did I do wrong? I just can't see it. TIA for any suggestions. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
How did I miss that! Is that somehow different than just quitting the IDE without saving then opening it again? The IDE Undo is a mystery to me. Most of the time when I really need to undo, it doesn't work, particularly when moving/deleting controls on a card. I've learned to save after almost any single change to a card layout before making another change. Pete On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: File menu, Revert to Saved... I work the same way as Jacque, other than I sometimes just close the script window and say Yes to the question about if I want to keep the changes. The main advantage of the Apply button is that you can keep the script window open while you try out different things, without committing to the changes just yet. If Undo worked as well as it does in Flash, then doing a Save wouldn't be such a big deal, you could quickly get back to how it was before the change you were trying. If you're editing an internal script in Flash, you don't even have to Apply either, the changes are already applied as soon as you've typed them. It can get away with that because Flash isn't constantly running in the way that LiveCode is. On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 3/6/12 11:37 AM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? The command is in the File menu, though I usually just type it into the message box to avoid the verification dialog. Revert is a LiveCode command that just means reload this stack from the last-saved version on disk. It lets me dink around and then discard all changes in one go. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS screen size problem
That choice is more about sizes that devices. Over to the right you'll see long list of required features, if you set it to require microphone, then the app wouldn't be offered to people using a device that doesn't have a microphone. On Mar 6, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: Answered my own question: I had picked the wrong set of supported devices. I wanted iPad and iPhone, but that option doesn't exist, so I picked iPod and iPhone with a mixture of wishful thinking and foggy eyes. I don't see why my preferred option doesn't exist (for example the app might want anything with a microphone, and an iPod only has one courtesy of its earphones). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Oh nice tip. Bob On Mar 6, 2012, at 10:17 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 11:37 AM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? The command is in the File menu, though I usually just type it into the message box to avoid the verification dialog. Revert is a LiveCode command that just means reload this stack from the last-saved version on disk. It lets me dink around and then discard all changes in one go. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
Thanks for the reply, Tim. In one word: awful. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 6 mrt 2012, at 19:04, Tim Jones wrote: In Win8 DP1, you could set the Desktop as your staring point. Apparently, they discovered that the vast majority of developers were doing just that and ignoring the Metro screen so they removed the ability in CP1. We've ignored our customers and put far too much effort into this, so you will run Metro, and you WILL like it! Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: Windows 8
Thanks Mark for your first experiences! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Schonewille Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2012 18:24 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Re: Windows 8 Hi, I just installed an app with an installer created by the Installer Maker Plugin and it seems to work fine. The app appears in the overview of colorized bricks, next to LiveCode. It looks like LiveCode apps won't work almost like they do in Windows 7 but they will work just fine, as they do in Win XP up to and including 7. After all, Windows 8 is just like Windows 7 once you have found the door in the brick wall. The secret entrance is a brick called Desktop. The usual door in the bottom-left is gone. I hope we'll soon be able to get to the desktop on startup automatically. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 06/03/2012 17:25, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 6:57 AM, Ken Corey wrote: Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack. I save manually immediately after every change I want to keep. That's often enough that I rarely lose anything -- but I don't seem to have much trouble with the IDE locking up. I almost never experience it. I haven't experienced it much on Windows, but boy do I see it a lot on Mac...at least 3 times per week. When I've just saved and it happens, I simply force quit and restart. If I haven't saved for a while, steam comes out of my ears. -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 3/6/12 12:37 PM, Ken Corey wrote: On 06/03/2012 17:25, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 6:57 AM, Ken Corey wrote: Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack. I save manually immediately after every change I want to keep. That's often enough that I rarely lose anything -- but I don't seem to have much trouble with the IDE locking up. I almost never experience it. I haven't experienced it much on Windows, but boy do I see it a lot on Mac...at least 3 times per week. When I've just saved and it happens, I simply force quit and restart. If I haven't saved for a while, steam comes out of my ears. I develop exclusively on Mac and only use other operating systems for testing. Do you use any third-party tools? I keep my IDE native. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
Tim Jones tolistim@... writes: In Win8 DP1, you could set the Desktop as your staring point. Apparently, they discovered that the vast majority of developers were doing just that and ignoring the Metro screen so they removed the ability in CP1. Yeah - I miss that in the new release, but at least it's only one more click. We've ignored our customers and put far too much effort into this, so you will run Metro, and you WILL like it! I don't *like* it yet, but I'm getting closer to not hating it. -- Mark Wieder ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 06/03/2012 18:58, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 12:37 PM, Ken Corey wrote: I develop exclusively on Mac and only use other operating systems for testing. Do you use any third-party tools? I keep my IDE native. Come to mention it, I have installed a few things that installed plug-ins on 5.0.2, but haven't used them. Now, of course, I'm running 5.5.0 dp2, but still seeing the crashes. Could the things I've played with in the past (glx2, mobgui, etc) be leaving a plug-in somewhere that 5.5.0 is picking up on? I tried looking in my Users/ken/Library directory, but only saw the preferences file there. -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sqlite and performances in LiveCode
I notice from things discussed on the Valentina list that they recommend using API methods rather than SQL calls, because the former will be faster due to less overhead. So these different ways of interacting with a sqlite database might well represent an application using the sqlite API. Although when I use the Valentina VStudio SQL interface I will still see results being returned in 25 ms, compared to 500 ms going through sql yoga revdb v4rev sql valentina. This is doing a select * from a table with 22k rows (10mb in size). That's not to say that I'm outraged at 500ms. There are other steps one can take to make an interface responsive at these timescales. The Valentina guys are pretty used to comparing Livecode with the other platforms for which they provide Valentina. On 19/12/2010 Ruslan had this to say about Livecode: REALbasic - as I remember -- was very fast, near to C code...so it gives e.g. 5% overhead to pure C engine... Revolution and Director give me x4-x10 overhead I thinkRevolution because all params are packed to strings ... Director because quite complex SDK similar to MS COM ... This conclusion by Ruslan appears to be only in the discussion of calling the Valentina API, therefore one would expect that adding other layers (sql, revdb, etc.) one would see other layers adding their own torpor to the action. Does using explict transation control make any difference with sqlite? It shouldn't matter in a case where the data is only being read. I know on MVCC databases this is still a factor if one has a cursor containing the read data, as such data might still be altered from the cursor and the currency control of the MVCC requires a handle on such data to be able to maintain consistency. I can't see that it would apply to sqlite, and this site confirms that sqlite does not implement MVCC: http://www.sqliteconcepts.org/SI_index.html Bernard On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: I got the same results on the movies database and even more pronounced differences on a table in one of my own databases with ~48k records in it: SQL tab 0.519secs, Manage tab 0.045 secs, more than a 10-fold difference! Just a straight SELECT * in each case. Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] Data Grid Helper 1.6
Dear LiveCode DGH Users, A new update for DGH is available. Here is a list of the features, changes and fixes for this new version. Features: 1. New column properties relatives to the datagrid's Template Field Editor properties, are supported: - Text selection: if true, selects all text in the field editor when the cell is edited. - Text displayed: can be one of the following values: text, htmltext, rtftext, unicodetext or utf8text - Text edited: supports the same values than the text displayed property - Default Edited value: when an empty cell is edited, sets the cell content to a default value. All this properties are grouped in a new Cell content topic. For using these properties, the installation of a DGH's custom script is required. Once this custom script installed, the properties are also settable by code for each column, using a new DGH property: dgh_ColumnCellContent. A Lesson will follow soon, for explaining in detail how to use this new property in your projects. 2. New scripts for the DGH's script installer: - Column Encoding Behavior: this script is an alternative to the addition of a custom cell content script in all the columns of a datagrid, if you have the need to encode all the columns of a datagrid in a format such as utf-8 or unicode. - Column Label Unicode Encoding: changes the dgLabel property of the datagrid's default header behavior, for supporting unicode chars in columns headers. 3. Datagrid TMPL manager This new DGH's tool, allows: - check the existence of a template for a datagrid. - creation of a new template in the datagrid template substack or creation of a template substack it if this substack is missing. - selection of a row template group for the datagrid. This is the DGH's answer for users experiencing problems with orphan datagrids (an orphan datagrid is a datagrid which lost its link with the template group). This behavior can for example, occurring after have done a copy/paste of a datagrid, then have deleted the original datagrid and at last have confirmed the deletion of its record template. Changes: - The DGH's column builder preview, supports now unicode - The DGH's column label value, supports now unicode - Column builder: the column properties and the delete column button are now disabled when the column builder preview not contains column. - Column builder: addition of a special color for invisible selected column in the column builder preview - When opened, the property editor window (style, behavior, margins, template), follows now the moves of the DGH's properties palette - Datagrid table: a datagrid with a missing template is now treated as a datagrid with an empty template. Creation of column still possible, but some actions such as editing a column template, are forbidden. - DGH's column builder: formatting cell script and script for simple fields have been improved. Fixes: - DGH no longer complaining, during the edition of a datagrid with a missing template - DGH no longer making visible, invisible columns when the name or the alignment of a column was edited with the Always hide invisibles columns option off. If you have not tried DGH yet, a trial version free for 30 days can be downloaded here: http://www.aslugontheroad.com/index.php?option=com_phocadownloadview=categoryid=12:trialItemid=63 You can also reach the Data Grid Helper plugin on the LiveCode Marketplace: http://www.runrev.com/store/product/data-grid-helper-1-2-0/ DGH is also part of the OmegaBundle limited time offer: http://www.omegabundle.com/ Best Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sqlite and performances in LiveCode
I just noticed that the same vendor that makes SQLiteManager also makes an SQLite server package (cubeSQL) that does implement MVCC. But you're right, it's definitely not there in standard SQLite. An SQLite server sounds interesting though. Pete On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: I notice from things discussed on the Valentina list that they recommend using API methods rather than SQL calls, because the former will be faster due to less overhead. So these different ways of interacting with a sqlite database might well represent an application using the sqlite API. Although when I use the Valentina VStudio SQL interface I will still see results being returned in 25 ms, compared to 500 ms going through sql yoga revdb v4rev sql valentina. This is doing a select * from a table with 22k rows (10mb in size). That's not to say that I'm outraged at 500ms. There are other steps one can take to make an interface responsive at these timescales. The Valentina guys are pretty used to comparing Livecode with the other platforms for which they provide Valentina. On 19/12/2010 Ruslan had this to say about Livecode: REALbasic - as I remember -- was very fast, near to C code...so it gives e.g. 5% overhead to pure C engine... Revolution and Director give me x4-x10 overhead I thinkRevolution because all params are packed to strings ... Director because quite complex SDK similar to MS COM ... This conclusion by Ruslan appears to be only in the discussion of calling the Valentina API, therefore one would expect that adding other layers (sql, revdb, etc.) one would see other layers adding their own torpor to the action. Does using explict transation control make any difference with sqlite? It shouldn't matter in a case where the data is only being read. I know on MVCC databases this is still a factor if one has a cursor containing the read data, as such data might still be altered from the cursor and the currency control of the MVCC requires a handle on such data to be able to maintain consistency. I can't see that it would apply to sqlite, and this site confirms that sqlite does not implement MVCC: http://www.sqliteconcepts.org/SI_index.html Bernard On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: I got the same results on the movies database and even more pronounced differences on a table in one of my own databases with ~48k records in it: SQL tab 0.519secs, Manage tab 0.045 secs, more than a 10-fold difference! Just a straight SELECT * in each case. Pete ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 3/6/12 1:32 PM, Ken Corey wrote: Could the things I've played with in the past (glx2, mobgui, etc) be leaving a plug-in somewhere that 5.5.0 is picking up on? I tried looking in my Users/ken/Library directory, but only saw the preferences file there. Doubtful, if you've restarted and haven't used those, but I'm not sure how GLX works; maybe it always loads. It would be in your plugins folder I think (it's been a very long time since I looked at it.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
