OT: Mailbutler Pro Lifetime Subscription at StackSocial

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,

in case someone is interested

A lifetime subscription of Mailbutler Pro is on sale at Stacksocial for the 
next 3 days.
https://stacksocial.com/sales/lifetime-of-mailbutler-professional 
 

Mailbutler is a productive tool  for Apple Mail and a Pro subscription normally 
costs 7,95 Eur (about 8,50 USD) per month.
It has features like email tracking, email follow-up, email snoozing and more. 
It has built-in support for Todoist, Evernote,Dropbox and others.

I am using Mailbutler Pro for about 1 year now  and i am absolutely satisfied 
with it.

Regards,

Matthias


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Re: OT: Flash tablet

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You can also use serv...@allwinnertech.com  
to contact them.


> Am 24.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Amazing.  Submitting a message using their form gives me this..
> ERROR: READ TIMEOUT
> --
> Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:01:49 GMT (taikoo/BC34_yd-yunnan-kunming-1-cache-1)
> 
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Mike Bonner  > wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, I've been googling for about 2 hours trying to find the right rom
>> that isn't a scam.  *sigh*  Yep. I'll contact support and see what they can
>> do.The thing arrived yesterday, and is not working today. (they did try
>> to fix it on their own by doing a factory reset.. twice.  Now it won't even
>> do that and hangs at the kitkat screen.  A kind wonder if the shut it down
>> in the middle of the reset some way, though most likely its because its a
>> junk tablet that decided to hork chunks)
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Roger Eller via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
>> 
>>> If it were mine, I would try to get a rom from the original manufacturers
>>> site, if possible.
>>> 
>>> I found this just by googling...
>>> 
>>> http://mytabletguru.com/allwinner-a33-firmware-and-tool/ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ~Roger
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2017 4:04 PM, "Mike Bonner via use-livecode" <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to get a tablet working for a friend (hard reset is a no go.)
>>> I
>>> think I can use phoenix card to reflash it, but does anyone know of a site
>>> with firmware/roms that isn't a hack/trojan/scam site?  (just for info,
>>> its
>>> an allwinner a33 TZX-723Qb6   Hoping to reg this going but I don't trust
>>> most (read any) of the sites and downloads I've found so far.
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LC9 DP5 - mimeEncodeAsMIMEEmail and attachments

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,
did someone already tested the new mime library, especially the command 
mimeEncodeAsMIMEEmail.

I tried it already and i am having problems to use the command with an 
attachment. My problem is, the attachment is not encoded and not added to the 
encoded message in the IT variable.

This is my sample code i am using for it

on mouseUp
   answer File "file" 
   if it is empty then exit to top
   put it into tFile
   put URL ("Binfile:") into tData
   set the itemdelimiter to slash
   put item -1 of tFile into tFileName
   put tFile into tAttachment["filepath"]
   put "tFileName" into tAttachment["name"]
   put tData into tAttachment["data"]
   
   put "ema...@server.com " into tTo
   put "ema...@server.com " into tCc
   put "ema...@server.com " into tFrom
   put "this is the subject" into tSubject
   put mimeEncodeFieldAsMIMEMultipartDocument(the long id of field 1) into tBody
   
   
   mimeEncodeAsMIMEEmail tBody, tFrom, tTo, tCC, tSubject, tAttachment
   
   put it
   answer the result
end mouseUp

Shouldn´t that work? Or is there an error in it? The Result does not show any 
error.


Regards,

Matthias
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Re: LC9 DP5 - mimeEncodeAsMIMEEmail and attachments

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Thanks, but the script does not include that. It seems Apple Mail.app  added 
that to the script.

But my original script definitely just contains the email address.


> Am 24.02.2017 um 17:05 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Exclude the mailto: in each email address. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 07:54 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> did someone already tested the new mime library, especially the command 
>> mimeEncodeAsMIMEEmail.
>> 
>> I tried it already and i am having problems to use the command with an 
>> attachment. My problem is, the attachment is not encoded and not added to 
>> the encoded message in the IT variable.
>> 
>> This is my sample code i am using for it
>> 
>> on mouseUp
>>  answer File "file" 
>>  if it is empty then exit to top
>>  put it into tFile
>>  put URL ("Binfile:") into tData
>>  set the itemdelimiter to slash
>>  put item -1 of tFile into tFileName
>>  put tFile into tAttachment["filepath"]
>>  put "tFileName" into tAttachment["name"]
>>  put tData into tAttachment["data"]
>> 
>>  put "ema...@server.com <mailto:ema...@server.com> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>> <mailto:ema...@server.com>>" into tTo
>>  put "ema...@server.com <mailto:ema...@server.com> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>> <mailto:ema...@server.com>>" into tCc
>>  put "ema...@server.com <mailto:ema...@server.com> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>> <mailto:ema...@server.com>>" into tFrom
>>  put "this is the subject" into tSubject
>>  put mimeEncodeFieldAsMIMEMultipartDocument(the long id of field 1) into 
>> tBody
>> 
>> 
>>  mimeEncodeAsMIMEEmail tBody, tFrom, tTo, tCC, tSubject, tAttachment
>> 
>>  put it
>>  answer the result
>> end mouseUp
>> 
>> Shouldn´t that work? Or is there an error in it? The Result does not show 
>> any error.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> Matthias Rebbe
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>> 32312 Lübbecke
>> Tel  +49 5741 31
>>  +49 160 5504462
>> Fax: +49 5741 310002
>> eMail: matth...@m-r-d.de <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de> 
>> <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de>>
>> 
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Re: LC9 DP5 - mimeEncodeAsMIMEEmail and attachments

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,

just found out what the problem was. I examined the mime.livecodescript file.

The array which holds the attachment information has to be a multidimensional 
array

e.g. pAttachment[1][name] for the first attachment
   pAttachment[2][name] for the second attachment

and so on.


Of course that make sense, but a note in the dictionary would have saved me 
some time. 

But anyway it´s working now. ;)

Matthias



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> Am 24.02.2017 um 17:08 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Thanks, but the script does not include that. It seems Apple Mail.app  added 
> that to the script.
> 
> But my original script definitely just contains the email address.
> 
> 
>> Am 24.02.2017 um 17:05 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>> 
>> Exclude the mailto: in each email address. 
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 07:54 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> did someone already tested the new mime library, especially the command 
>>> mimeEncodeAsMIMEEmail.
>>> 
>>> I tried it already and i am having problems to use the command with an 
>>> attachment. My problem is, the attachment is not encoded and not added to 
>>> the encoded message in the IT variable.
>>> 
>>> This is my sample code i am using for it
>>> 
>>> on mouseUp
>>> answer File "file" 
>>> if it is empty then exit to top
>>> put it into tFile
>>> put URL ("Binfile:") into tData
>>> set the itemdelimiter to slash
>>> put item -1 of tFile into tFileName
>>> put tFile into tAttachment["filepath"]
>>> put "tFileName" into tAttachment["name"]
>>> put tData into tAttachment["data"]
>>> 
>>> put "ema...@server.com <mailto:ema...@server.com> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>>> <mailto:ema...@server.com>> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>>> <mailto:ema...@server.com> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>>> <mailto:ema...@server.com>>>" into tTo
>>> put "ema...@server.com <mailto:ema...@server.com> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>>> <mailto:ema...@server.com>> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>>> <mailto:ema...@server.com> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>>> <mailto:ema...@server.com>>>" into tCc
>>> put "ema...@server.com <mailto:ema...@server.com> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>>> <mailto:ema...@server.com>> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>>> <mailto:ema...@server.com> <mailto:ema...@server.com 
>>> <mailto:ema...@server.com>>>" into tFrom
>>> put "this is the subject" into tSubject
>>> put mimeEncodeFieldAsMIMEMultipartDocument(the long id of field 1) into 
>>> tBody
>>> 
>>> 
>>> mimeEncodeAsMIMEEmail tBody, tFrom, tTo, tCC, tSubject, tAttachment
>>> 
>>> put it
>>> answer the result
>>> end mouseUp
>>> 
>>> Shouldn´t that work? Or is there an error in it? The Result does not show 
>>> any error.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> Bramkampsieke 13
>>> 32312 Lübbecke
>>> Tel +49 5741 31
>>> +49 160 5504462
>>> Fax: +49 5741 310002
>>> eMail: matth...@m-r-d.de <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de> 
>>> <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de>> 
>>> <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de> 
>>> <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de>>>
>>> 
>>> BR5 Konverter - BR5 -> MP3 <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/portfolio/produkte/brx/ 
>>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/portfolio/produkte/brx/> 
>>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/portfolio/

Re: Another naive question about code signing

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Graham,

there is a lesson about signing Innosetup Installers

http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/s/revolution/m/10695/l/563371-signing-installers-you-create-with-inno-setup
 
<http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/s/revolution/m/10695/l/563371-signing-installers-you-create-with-inno-setup>


Regards,
Matthias


> Am 15.01.2017 um 18:53 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> I’m just using Innosetup on its own, under Windows 7. This works fine, in the 
> sense that all the installers I’ve ever created do exactly what I want them 
> to do (apart from launching the program immediately after installation, which 
> I’ve had to switch off). My problem comes with the code signing part. My 
> ambition is that the installer should work without a single squawk from 
> either Windows or the installed virus checker (in my case Norton, but who 
> knows what the purchasers of the app will be using?). I just have not got 
> that far, but maybe it isn’t possible.
> 
> Of course I will now look at InstallGadget and maybe that will solve my 
> problem.
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 15 Jan 2017, at 18:06, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Graham,
>> 
>> which installer are you using?
>> 
>> I am using tool from Monte called InstallGadget. This tool uses the free 
>> Innosetup under the hood and allows to create intallers by drag and drop.
>> As this tools is quite old, i updated the Innosetup stuff inside the 
>> InstallGadget folder.
>> 
>> So in any case you are using an other installer than Innosetup, give 
>> Innosetup a try.
>> 
>> 
>> Matthias Rebbe
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>> eMail: matth...@m-r-d.de <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de> 
>> <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de <mailto:matth...@m-r-d.de>>
>> 
>> BR5 Konverter - BR5 -> MP3 <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/portfolio/produkte/brx/ 
>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/portfolio/produkte/brx/>>
>>> Am 15.01.2017 um 17:39 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> Matthias, I took your advice. I don’t use tsnet so that wasn’t a difficulty 
>>> for me. So what I did was to sign the standalone (this was Windows, so it 
>>> was a .exe file), then create the installer and sign that. I used Ksign for 
>>> these processes.
>>> 
>>> I then went through the process of downloading and running the installer 
>>> and was disappointed to see a few warnings, both from Windows and from 
>>> Norton, concerning the installer. Eventually I did the install and started 
>>> the program itself, and Windows did report that it was from a trusted 
>>> publisher.
>>> 
>>> Is this the best that I can get, or have I missed a step somewhere? Where 
>>> I’m at at the moment, I think the process could still scare users.
>>> 
>>> If you’ve got time perhaps you can clarify this for me further - I’d be 
>>> grateful.
>>> 
>>> TIA
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Jan 2017, at 23:04, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Graham,
>>>> 
>>>> first you have to sign the standalone with all externals. If you are using 
>>>> Ksign.exe then just add the folder,which contains the standalone and its 
>>>> subfolders, in Ksign.
>>>> Please be aware that if your standalone make use of the tsNet 
>>>> external,then you have to change the file attributes of tsnet.dll to be 
>>>> writable before you codesign it. Otherwise Ksign.exe will not be able to 
>>>> sign the tsnet.dll.
>>>> tsnet.dll by default is read only. At least if the Windows standalone is 
>>>> created  on Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> After you have signed the standalone and its externals create the 
>>>> installer and codesign that exe again. 
>>>> 
>>>> That´s how i am doing it.
>>>> 
>

Re: Tarting up the scriptEditor

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Andy,

first of all thanks.

Unfortunately the update check in revSeth 2.1 still tells me that i have the 
latest version.


Regards,

Matthias

> Am 16.01.2017 um 12:59 schrieb AndyP via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> A new version (2.2) of Script Editor Themer has been released.
> 
> Release notes can be viewed here.
> 
> http://2108.co.uk/script-editor-themer/script-editor-themer-release-notes/ 
> 
> 
> Now works with* Community* and *Commercial* versions of LiveCode
> 
> This fixes the problems with V8 onwards.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Andy Piddock 
> 
> 
> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. 
> 
> TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
> TinyIDE 
> 
> 
> Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk   
> 
> PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / 
> finder.
> http://www.pointandsee.co.uk   - made with 
> LiveCode
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Re: Tarting up the scriptEditor

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Andy,

yes the email arrived here 2 minutes after i sent my post to the list.

I saw there is a forum now on your site. Are you informed automatically if 
someone posts something to the Seth Bug Reports forum?
If not, please have a look. ;)

Regards,

Matthias



> Am 16.01.2017 um 13:45 schrieb AndyP via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Have you received the email re the update?
> 
> It has a link and instructions on how to install the latest version.
> 
> The auto updated can be flakey so I've reverted to a manual install method.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Andy Piddock 
> 
> 
> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. 
> 
> TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
> TinyIDE 
> 
> 
> Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk   
> 
> PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / 
> finder.
> http://www.pointandsee.co.uk   - made with 
> LiveCode
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Re: Why do I still need MacToISO, when working with UTF-8?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

thanks for that.

> Am 16.01.2017 um 18:30 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> 
> Sure - here is how I'd slightly adjust Tiemo's code:
> 
> *put fld "name" into myName*
> -- ...
> *open file myFile for binary write*
> *write textEncode(myName, "utf8") to file myFile*
> *close file myFile*
> -- ...
> *open file myFile for binary read*
> *read from file myFile until EOF*
> *close file myFile*
> *put textDecode(it, "utf8") into myName*

I always thought, that binary reading a text file would result into a string 
with the same encoding and  line endings.
So when i binary read UTF8 files  i still have to textDecode it to UTF8?





> -- ...
> *put URL ("http://myUser:myPW@myURL " & 
> "mySQL.php?" & URLEncode(textEncode(theName, "utf8")))
> into rslt*
> -- mySQL.php writes to a MySQL db, where theName column is encoded as
> "utf8_general_ci"
> 
> The missing piece here is PHP configuration on the other side. I'm assuming 
> that PHP is doing the following:
>   1) URLDecode the part after '?' into bytes
>   2) Interpret the bytes as Latin-1 encoded text
>   3) Passing the text string to the appropriate MySQL function
>   4) The MySQL function is converting the text string to UTF-8
> 
> This may or may not be the case. If 'theName' is encoded as UTF8 before being 
> URLEncode, all that needs to be checked is that the PHP (on the other end) is 
> decoding it into a string as UTF-8 before passing it to MySQL.
> 
> Warmest egards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
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Re: Why do I still need MacToISO, when working with UTF-8?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Mark,

thanks again for your explanations.

That explains some strange things here in the past… ;)

Matthias

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> Am 16.01.2017 um 18:45 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
>>> Am 16.01.2017 um 18:30 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>>>  
>>> >> >>:
>>> Sure - here is how I'd slightly adjust Tiemo's code:
>>> *put fld "name" into myName*
>>> -- ...
>>> *open file myFile for binary write*
>>> *write textEncode(myName, "utf8") to file myFile*
>>> *close file myFile*
>>> -- ...
>>> *open file myFile for binary read*
>>> *read from file myFile until EOF*
>>> *close file myFile*
>>> *put textDecode(it, "utf8") into myName*
>> I always thought, that binary reading a text file would result into a
>> string with the same encoding and  line endings.
> 
> When you read a file in binary mode, what you get is binary data *not* text - 
> i.e. it is just a sequence of bytes. The engine cannot tell by just looking 
> at the bytes what it could be therefore you have to explicitly convert it to 
> something - in this case we convert the sequence of bytes to text by 
> interpreting the bytes as UTF-8.
> 
> One of the biggest changes from 6 to 7 is that binary strings and text 
> strings are no longer the same thing.
> 
> Prior to 7, the engine didn't really 'know' anything about Unicode - the 
> field did to a certain degree, but nothing else - and it assumed that binary 
> strings and text strings were the same thing. Indeed, on Mac the engine would 
> assume that a binary string could be treated as a MacRoman encoded string (as 
> MacRoman is one byte, one char); and on Windows/Linux it would assume that a 
> binary string could be treated as a Latin-1 encoded string (also a one byte, 
> one char encoding).
> 
> This equivalence has been retained in 7 from 6 - which is why stacks written 
> in 6 work exactly the same as they do in 7. Specifically, there is an 
> implicit auto conversion between binary strings and text strings using the 
> platform encoding:
> 
>put  into tVar
>put "foobar" after tVar
> 
> In the second line here, the engine will first convert tVar to a text string 
> (assuming MacRoman encoding on Mac) then append "foobar".
> 
>> So when i binary read UTF8 files  i still have to textDecode it to UTF8?
> 
> Yes - because if you read something as binary, then it is just that - binary 
> - it has no structure and is just a sequence of bytes.
> 
> A perhaps more obviously example is that you have to explicitly decompress 
> data which has been compress'd and explicitly arrayDecode data which has been 
> arrayEncode'd. When it is just data, the engine doesn't know what it could be 
> so the code processing it has to explicitly specify a conversion.
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
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Re: Why do I still need MacToISO, when working with UTF-8?

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Hi Mark,

although i am not the original poster i really appreciate you explanation. 

The only thing what was missing …

It would have been nice if you had also put some sample code for how to UTF8 
encode the string.
That would have made your explanations complete. ;)

I am pretty sure there are many on the list who are struggling with that 
econding part. Or am i the only one?


Regards,
Matthias




> Am 16.01.2017 um 17:41 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> 
> 
> What you need to do here is explicitly UTF8 encode theName before passing it 
> to URLEncode, then explicitly decode it as UTF8 on the PHP side (or set a 
> property in PHP which changes the default assumption about URLs - I apologise 
> for not being more accurate here, my knowledge of PHP is a little stale these 
> days!).
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
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Re: Code signing - not out of the wood yet: please help!

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Graham,

- in your developer account select “Mac OS X” in the dropdown menu on the left 
side above the word “Certificates”
- then click “All” under “Certifcates” on the left side
- click the “+” sign on the right side  (near the loupe)
- in the next page select “Developer ID”  near the bottom
- click “continue”
- on the next page select either “Developer ID Application” or “Developer ID 
Installer”
- on the next page read the instructions how to create the Creator Signing 
Request 
  or click continue right away if you have already created that file
- on the next page you are able to upload your file
- press continue

Your certificate should be created.

I just ran through it just to write  this description, but cannot go further 
because i have all my certificates already.

So maybe you have to click some mor “continue” buttons. I am not sure. But at 
least now you know where to upload that file.

Regards,

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> Am 17.01.2017 um 12:21 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Having more or less sorted code signing for a Windows app - thanks to 
> contributors to this list - I am now trying to do the same for the Mac, but I 
> have clearly missed some massive chunk of the work flow.
> 
> I’m a registered developer. I want to distribute my apps outside of the Apple 
> App Store. I realise that I have to generate a Certificate Signing Request 
> (actually two, one for the app itself and one for its installer): I have done 
> this, but now I am stuck. It says in the very convoluted Apple documentation 
> (convoluted if you’re not going down the XCode/Apple Store path):
> 
>> Upload the certificate request to the certificate authority (for example, to 
>> Apple using the developer portal, as part of the certificate generation 
>> flow).
> I cannot see a way to do this in the Developer Portal. Obviously thousands of 
> people have done it, but I just can’t see how.
> 
> TIA for any nice clear simple explanation!
> 
> Graham
> 
> I’m even more in need of a LiveCode app deployment guide than ever…
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Re: WS.Reputation.1 False Positive?

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Dear Graham,

this is a known behavior of Symantec´s Norton Antivirus.

See
https://community.norton.com/en/forums/norton-security-thinks-my-inno-setup-files-are-threat
 

and
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/codeandweb2/wsreputation1_or_how_symantec_ruins_independent_developers_24/
 

and
http://www.ghacks.net/2012/06/25/how-to-bypass-symantecs-ws-reputation-1-system/
 



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> Am 19.01.2017 um 19:36 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> I’ve prepared and code-signed a Windows installer for my LiveCode app. When I 
> download it via Google Chrome, the browser tries to discard it, then Norton 
> tries to delete it. When I get over these humps (let’s hope other folks 
> downloading will be prepared to do this!), Norton reports that the installer 
> contains an “Insight Network Threat” named "WS.Reputation.1”. The installer 
> has been thoroughly virus checked etc, so this must be wrong. However it 
> looks like you can’t change Norton’s mind without making a submission about a 
> false positive (I’ve done that) and then wait for some users to endorse it. 
> If it’s that hard to install, then nobody will be downloading it…
> 
> So it looks like I can’t get round this - has anyone any suggestions?
> 
> I should say that after getting past all that, Windows 7 agrees that the 
> installer does come from a verified publisher, so at least the code signing 
> worked.
> 
> This whole process of publishing has surprised me by being such a pain. And I 
> haven’t started on the Mac version yet.
> 
> TIA for any reassurance.
> 
> Graham
> 
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Re: Another naive question about code signing

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Graham,

which installer are you using?

I am using tool from Monte called InstallGadget. This tool uses the free 
Innosetup under the hood and allows to create intallers by drag and drop.
As this tools is quite old, i updated the Innosetup stuff inside the 
InstallGadget folder.

So in any case you are using an other installer than Innosetup, give Innosetup 
a try.


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> Am 15.01.2017 um 17:39 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Matthias, I took your advice. I don’t use tsnet so that wasn’t a difficulty 
> for me. So what I did was to sign the standalone (this was Windows, so it was 
> a .exe file), then create the installer and sign that. I used Ksign for these 
> processes.
> 
> I then went through the process of downloading and running the installer and 
> was disappointed to see a few warnings, both from Windows and from Norton, 
> concerning the installer. Eventually I did the install and started the 
> program itself, and Windows did report that it was from a trusted publisher.
> 
> Is this the best that I can get, or have I missed a step somewhere? Where I’m 
> at at the moment, I think the process could still scare users.
> 
> If you’ve got time perhaps you can clarify this for me further - I’d be 
> grateful.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 14 Jan 2017, at 23:04, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Graham,
>> 
>> first you have to sign the standalone with all externals. If you are using 
>> Ksign.exe then just add the folder,which contains the standalone and its 
>> subfolders, in Ksign.
>> Please be aware that if your standalone make use of the tsNet external,then 
>> you have to change the file attributes of tsnet.dll to be writable before 
>> you codesign it. Otherwise Ksign.exe will not be able to sign the tsnet.dll.
>> tsnet.dll by default is read only. At least if the Windows standalone is 
>> created  on Mac.
>> 
>> After you have signed the standalone and its externals create the installer 
>> and codesign that exe again. 
>> 
>> That´s how i am doing it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 14.01.2017 um 19:47 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
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>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> Having taken a lot of advice from this list and after a delay getting 
>>> certificates, I’m about to do some actual code signing for an app that has 
>>> a Windows and a Mac version. I am so unsure about the process that i don’t 
>>> understand whether I apply the process (let’s say with Ksign for Windows) 
>>> to the installer or the app itself.
>>> 
>>> In my case the installer installs additional files apart from the 
>>> executable (all neatly packaged up in the Mac version of course, but 
>>> separate in the Windows one). Since an installer is itself executable, I 
>>> suppose starting an installer will generate those irritating warnings (yes, 
>>> I know, they are for my users’ benefit, but still…) - on that basis, should 
>>> the installer be signed? Or should I codesign everything, executables, 
>>> additional files (these can be stacks, which are in some sense executable) 
>>> and the installer too? I think the latter, but I’m not sure.
>>> 
>>> This must be blindingly obvious to everyone else, but it is not easy to get 
>>> a simple answer from the internet. Of course I will just do it and see what 
>>> happens, but I would be glad to understand what ‘normal practice’ might be.
>>> 
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FTP file upload with non-ascii characters in filename

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Hi,

i need to upload files with non-ascii characters in the filename and this has 
to work on Win and Mac OS X.
 
My script works fine when uploading files with ascii filenames, but as soon as 
i select a file with non-ascii characters in its filename i get an error

What do i have to do with the filenames/filepath (target and source) before 
doing the upload?

My script looks like this:

answer tFile "select file..."
if it is empty then exit to top
put it into tFilePath
replace backslash with slash in tFilePath
set the itemdelimiter to slash
put item -1 of tFilePath into tFile
replace " " with "_" in tFile
put "ftp://username:passw...@ftpserver.com/ 
"& tFile into tURL
liburlftpupload tFilePath,tURL  

I´ve tried to urlencode tDatei.


I am pretty sure there is something more.

Regards,

Matthias 
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Sublime Text - Trevors LivecodeLint - some questions

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I was wondering about how this code checking would work, so i installed 
SublimeText, installed the LiveCode Package, SublimeLinter and LC server 
community as described  at 
https://github.com/trevordevore/sublimelinter-contrib-livecodelint 


I then tried to install the plugin SublimeLinter-contrib-livecodelint via 
Package Control, but i do not see the plugin in the list. So i downloaded the 
plugin from github, rename the folder from 
SublimeLinter-contrib-livecodelint-master to SublimeLinter-contrib-livecodelint 
and moved it into the folder  ~/Library/Application Support/Sublime Text 
3/Packages/User

I added the described settings to the linters section and set the Lint Mode to 
Background. But i do not get an error when for example using a non declared 
variable. What am i missing.


Regards,
Matthias

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Re: FTP file upload with non-ascii characters in filename

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> Am 28.02.2017 um 16:36 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Is the need because the files already exist, or is it because you cannot 
> control the source of the files? If possible, the files should probably be 
> renamed on the other end to make them "compatible" with all file systems. If 
> not, then maybe urlEncode/urlDecode or the ISO functions may work for you. 
> 

Thanks Bob. That´s what i am doing right now.

As i cannot guarantee that my customer won´t use such filenames, i will 
implement a function that removes and replaces all characters that are 
non-ascii.

Although, i am wondering how ftp clients like transmit are able to handle such 
non-ascii characters. Anyway. 

Regards,

Matthias

> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 24:23 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> i need to upload files with non-ascii characters in the filename and this 
>> has to work on Win and Mac OS X.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias 
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Re: FTP file upload with non-ascii characters in filename

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Thanks Simon, but this does not fix the problem.
> Am 28.02.2017 um 10:59 schrieb Simon Knight via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Hi
> 
> First I am not sure why your code replaces spaces with underscores in tFile.
> 
Because i do not like spaces in URLs. I know, that i could replace it with %20, 
but i prefer “_” instead.

Regards,
Matthias

> Next I have an application that displays lists of filenames in a folder.  The 
> user clicks on a filename and it is displayed in a browser object on the 
> card.  In order to get this to work I had to convert the displayed and 
> selected file name to one that the OS actually uses at a lower level by using 
> these lines of code:
> 
> put GetSourcefolder() & "/" & tFilename into tMyFilePath
> 
> replace " " with "%20" in tMyFilePath
> 
> replace "|" with "%7C" in tMyFilePath
> 
> 
> I make no claims that the problem is restricted to these two characters but 
> this might be a starting point.  Also different OS’s have different rules on 
> the characters used in file names, so you need to account for the OS the 
> server is running and google for character substitutions used in file names.
> 
> Skids
> 
> 
>> On 28 Feb 2017, at 08:23, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> i need to upload files with non-ascii characters in the filename and this 
>> has to work on Win and Mac OS X.
>> 
>> My script works fine when uploading files with ascii filenames, but as soon 
>> as i select a file with non-ascii characters in its filename i get an error
>> 
>> What do i have to do with the filenames/filepath (target and source) before 
>> doing the upload?
>> 
>> My script looks like this:
>> 
>> answer tFile "select file..."
>> if it is empty then exit to top
>> put it into tFilePath
>> replace backslash with slash in tFilePath
>> set the itemdelimiter to slash
>> put item -1 of tFilePath into tFile
>> replace " " with "_" in tFile
>> put "ftp://username:passw...@ftpserver.com/ 
>> <ftp://username:passw...@ftpserver.com/> 
>> <ftp://username:passw...@ftpserver.com/ 
>> <ftp://username:passw...@ftpserver.com/>>"& tFile into tURL
>> liburlftpupload tFilePath,tURL   
>> 
>> I´ve tried to urlencode tDatei.
>> 
>> 
>> I am pretty sure there is something more.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias 
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Re: FTP file upload with non-ascii characters in filename

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It seems it´s not a problem with non-ascii in general.

If i first put the content of the file, which i want to upload and which 
contains non-ascii chars in its filename, 
into a variable and urlencode the filename of the target file, then i am able 
to upload the file using "liburlftpupload tData, tTargetURL" without problems.

But if i use "liburlftpfileupload tSourceFilePath, tTargetURL” to upload the 
same file using source file path and target URL, then i get an error.
It works with files wihtout non-ascii chars in their filenames.

Is it possible that there is a problem with libURL and non-ascii filenames?

Regards,
Matthias


> Am 28.02.2017 um 17:14 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
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> 
> Maybe textDecode(filename) would work.
> 
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> 
> 
> On February 28, 2017 10:01:47 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> Am 28.02.2017 um 16:36 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> Is the need because the files already exist, or is it because you cannot 
>>> control the source of the files? If possible, the files should probably be 
>>> renamed on the other end to make them "compatible" with all file systems. 
>>> If not, then maybe urlEncode/urlDecode or the ISO functions may work for 
>>> you.
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Bob. That´s what i am doing right now.
>> 
>> As i cannot guarantee that my customer won´t use such filenames, i will 
>> implement a function that removes and replaces all characters that are 
>> non-ascii.
>> 
>> Although, i am wondering how ftp clients like transmit are able to handle 
>> such non-ascii characters. Anyway.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>>> Bob S
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 24:23 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> i need to upload files with non-ascii characters in the filename and this 
>>>> has to work on Win and Mac OS X.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
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>> 
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Re: FTP file upload with non-ascii characters in filename

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

My problem is solved now.

I found out that
1. it works w/o problems under Windows
2. it works under Mac OS X if i unload/disable tsNET

So i contacted Charles Warwick. This is his answer
—>
"OS X / Linux filesystems are all UTF-8, so you need to convert the filename to 
UTF-8 format before calling libUrlFtpUploadFile.
Try changing the end of your mouseUp handler to look like this:

... 
libURLSetStatusCallback "uploadProgress", the long ID of me
put textencode(tSourceFile, "UTF-8") into tSourceFile
liburlftpuploadfile tSourceFile,tURL ,”uploadComplete"
...

Let me know if that resolves your issue or not.  It seemed to fix the issue on 
my Mac.
If it does - since this seems to only be an issue with tsNet loaded - I will 
modify the libUrl wrapper for tsNet so it automatically does that conversion on 
those platforms in the next LC version to keep compatibility with those not 
using tsNet.”
<— 


I´ve added now a switch that  textencodes the source file if the OS is MacOS or 
Linux. And now it works perfectly.

I know, i know...
Jacqueline already suggested to use textEncode. I did, but for the target file. 
;)
I´ve never  have assumed that i have to do it with the source file.

Regards,

Matthias



> Am 28.02.2017 um 18:10 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> 
> It seems it´s not a problem with non-ascii in general.
> 
> If i first put the content of the file, which i want to upload and which 
> contains non-ascii chars in its filename, 
> into a variable and urlencode the filename of the target file, then i am able 
> to upload the file using "liburlftpupload tData, tTargetURL" without problems.
> 
> But if i use "liburlftpfileupload tSourceFilePath, tTargetURL” to upload the 
> same file using source file path and target URL, then i get an error.
> It works with files wihtout non-ascii chars in their filenames.
> 
> Is it possible that there is a problem with libURL and non-ascii filenames?
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Am 28.02.2017 um 17:14 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>> 
>> Maybe textDecode(filename) would work.
>> 
>> --
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>> <mailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.com> <mailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.com 
>> <mailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.com>>
>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com 
>> <http://www.hyperactivesw.com/> <http://www.hyperactivesw.com/ 
>> <http://www.hyperactivesw.com/>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On February 28, 2017 10:01:47 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am 28.02.2017 um 16:36 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>>:
>>>> 
>>>> Is the need because the files already exist, or is it because you cannot 
>>>> control the source of the files? If possible, the files should probably be 
>>>> renamed on the other end to make them "compatible" with all file systems. 
>>>> If not, then maybe urlEncode/urlDecode or the ISO functions may work for 
>>>> you.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks Bob. That´s what i am doing right now.
>>> 
>>> As i cannot guarantee that my customer won´t use such filenames, i will 
>>> implement a function that removes and replaces all characters that are 
>>> non-ascii.
>>> 
>>> Although, i am wondering how ftp clients like transmit are able to handle 
>>> such non-ascii characters. Anyway.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>>> Bob S
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 24:23 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>>> <use-

Re: Tarting up the scriptEditor

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Andy,

i think it would be a good idea to let the people know that with LC 8, at least 
under Mac OSX there are problems with setting the colors which makes revSeth 
useless if you want to use the dark theme.
The dark theme by default  shows black colored font on black BG and cannot be 
changed although the settings of the theme show correct colors.

After sending this to your issue tracker i noticed, that there is already  a 
confirmed bug report for this in your issue tracker from 24.06.2015. 



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> Am 14.01.2017 um 14:12 schrieb AndyP via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> Im in the process of readying the latest version for open source at the
> moment
> Seth will still be a paid for product but password restriction will be
> removed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Andy Piddock 
> 
> 
> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. 
> 
> TinyIDETinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
> TinyIDE 
> 
> 
> Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk   
> 
> PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / 
> finder.
> http://www.pointandsee.co.uk   - made with 
> LiveCode
> --
> View this message in context: 
> http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Tarting-up-the-scriptEditor-tp4711657p4711660.html
>  
> 
> Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com 
> .
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Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

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I totally agree with you and could not have said  it better.



> Am 06.01.2017 um 17:09 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Exactly what I was thinking when I read it. My greatest aprehension in using 
> Livecode is that one day it will be gone, and I will have to learn to use C++ 
> or Objective C, which is to say I will have to give up software development. 
> I'm not really sure how they stay afloat as is, but as I develop strictly for 
> in house use for my company, and not because they want me to either, but 
> because I happen to know that what I have created for them vastly simplifies 
> and streamlines my workflow and that of my techs, all that to say that I pay 
> for LC development out of pocket. the $700 a year hurts. But I pay it because 
> I need the features Indy offers, and I also think  that if I am not going to 
> contribute to the open source project (like I have anything to contribute) 
> then my paying for the Indy license once a year is my way of supporting it.
> 
> I suppose it is how you choose to look at things. I remember getting really 
> excited about Filemake Standalones until I discovered I would have to pay a 
> distribution fee for *every single instance* of a distributed app!!! Oh yeah, 
> and developing for Filemaker sucks goose eggs. Also I come from a background 
> of Procedural Foxpro where creating a form meant "saying" text at different 
> window coordinates, then "getting" whatever the user typed in. There was no 
> program interaction during a read. No events triggered. Foxpro was in a coma. 
> And, it took forever to write and troubleshoot even minor changes, compared 
> to Livecode.
> 
> You can write a functional utility in a matter of minutes, debug it in a few 
> hours, make it pretty inside of a day. Compile and distribute it no charge. 
> AND they offer a free edition. I'm not sure anyone has any room to complain 
> here.
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
> On Jan 6, 2017, at 04:49 , Heather Laine via use-livecode 
>   >> wrote:
> 
> "A bit like devs are being milked" seems a somewhat extraordinary statement.
> 
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Re: Another naive question about code signing

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Graham,

first you have to sign the standalone with all externals. If you are using 
Ksign.exe then just add the folder,which contains the standalone and its 
subfolders, in Ksign.
Please be aware that if your standalone make use of the tsNet external,then you 
have to change the file attributes of tsnet.dll to be writable before you 
codesign it. Otherwise Ksign.exe will not be able to sign the tsnet.dll.
tsnet.dll by default is read only. At least if the Windows standalone is 
created  on Mac.

After you have signed the standalone and its externals create the installer and 
codesign that exe again. 

That´s how i am doing it.

Regards,

Matthias



> Am 14.01.2017 um 19:47 schrieb Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Having taken a lot of advice from this list and after a delay getting 
> certificates, I’m about to do some actual code signing for an app that has a 
> Windows and a Mac version. I am so unsure about the process that i don’t 
> understand whether I apply the process (let’s say with Ksign for Windows) to 
> the installer or the app itself.
> 
> In my case the installer installs additional files apart from the executable 
> (all neatly packaged up in the Mac version of course, but separate in the 
> Windows one). Since an installer is itself executable, I suppose starting an 
> installer will generate those irritating warnings (yes, I know, they are for 
> my users’ benefit, but still…) - on that basis, should the installer be 
> signed? Or should I codesign everything, executables, additional files (these 
> can be stacks, which are in some sense executable) and the installer too? I 
> think the latter, but I’m not sure.
> 
> This must be blindingly obvious to everyone else, but it is not easy to get a 
> simple answer from the internet. Of course I will just do it and see what 
> happens, but I would be glad to understand what ‘normal practice’ might be.
> 
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Re: Blowfish digest , how to create in Livecode

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Peter,


> Am 28.03.2017 um 14:58 schrieb Peter TB Brett via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Quick note that you may be affected by this PHP security vulnerability:
> 
> http://www.php.net/security/crypt_blowfish.php 
> 
> 

thanks for letting me know, but we running PHP 5.6x on our server. So we are 
not affected by this.



> I'm not sure about Blowfish-based `crypt()` with LiveCode, I'm afraid.
> 
I have sent a support request to Runrev 1 or 2 hours ago, so i´ll have to wait 
to see what your colleagues are thinking about it.

Regards,
Matthias




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Blowfish digest , how to create in Livecode

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,

i have a MySQL DB which uses passwords  created with php crypt function using 
blowfish

the php code looks like this for example

$salt='$2a$08$NWy7XidPPL2XEsouCG3dy’;
$digest= crypt(‘myPassword01’,$salt);

how can i do this in Livecode server? I find SHA1digest and MD5digest functions 
in the dictionary, but no blowfishDigest function.

Or isn´t that possible in LC?

Regards,
Matthias


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Re: (off) dropbox down

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Maybe this all had to do with this in some way?

https://www.ripe.net/support/service-announcements/reverse-dns-issue-for-some-delegations-in-the-ripe-ncc-service-region
 





> Am 17.03.2017 um 15:24 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Mike Kerner wrote:
> 
> > For everyone who does anything with dropbox, it's been down since at
> > least 2AM EDT.
> 
> For this morning:
> 
> Network outages for popular services can often be tracked using third-party 
> tools.  Searching Google for "is dropbox down" led me to this report 
> confirming that many others have reported similar issues with Dropbox today:
> 
> http://downdetector.com/status/dropbox 
> 
> 
> 
> For this afternoon:
> 
> Nextcloud - can't say enough good things about it.  Free and open source, 
> available here:
> 
> https://nextcloud.com/ 
> 
> [Pardon the long pitch, but it's a free package and a really good one:]
> 
> Ever since I started using it I've stopped using Dropbox, Google Drive, and 
> other services I'd used in the past.  Why?  Better sync, more flexible 
> options, and completely under my own control all the way down to how much 
> storage space I want.
> 
> Nextcloud is a PHP package that installs under Apache.  As such it's not yet 
> an end-user consumer product (a partnership with Western Digital is in the 
> process of producing one), but is very well suited for anyone comfortable 
> with setting up Apache.
> 
> Dual-licensed like LiveCode, the GPL edition is probably more than adequate 
> for the needs of most readers here (though the Enterprise edition has some 
> components that may be worth considering if you're running a larger business).
> 
> You install Nextcloud on any VPS or dedicated server, and once installed 
> you're limited only by your server's disk capacity.
> 
> You can set up any number of user accounts, establish disk quotas for them if 
> needed, and share files between them or even publicly. You can sync any 
> number of folders, and synced folders maintain versions when files change so 
> you can revert to any earlier version at any time.
> 
> Nextcloud has native clients for Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS, and Android.
> 
> I originally tried it as a solution for syncing my LiveCode Plugins folder 
> across all the machines I work on, and as the only option with native clients 
> for all three OS families that alone made it an instant favorite.
> 
> Since then I've discovered that it includes a considerable number of apps, 
> included an embedded version of LibreOffice, contact, photo management, etc., 
> with more available from their third-party collection.
> 
> I had the pleasure of meeting the project founder and director, Frank 
> Karlitschek, at the SoCal Linux Expo a couple weeks ago, along with the 
> project's community manager and head of marketing, Jos Poortvliet.  Both 
> fun-loving, hard-working people, committed to the vision of putting people 
> back in control of their cloud systems.
> 
> Until they get a turnkey consumer device shipping, Nextcloud may not be for 
> everyone just yet.
> 
> But for developers in an increasingly interconnected world that already has 
> us configuring Apache, Nextcloud can be a very good solution for cloud 
> storage and more.
> 
> If nothing else, consider:
> 
> When a public cloud service like Dropbox goes down, your only recourse is to 
> wait and pray.
> 
> If your Nextcloud server goes down (and mine never has in the many years I've 
> been running it), chances are you'll just reboot and be back in business in 
> minutes.
> 
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Re: where does the standalonebuilder saves the substacks in an Mac OS App?

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Hi Jacqueline,

thanks for that hint. Seems i have missed that part..

Regards,

Matthias


> Am 15.03.2017 um 07:44 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> On 3/14/17 6:58 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> is it correct when the standalone settings of an stack are set to
>> move substacks into individual stack files that under Mac OS X the
>> substacks in an compiled app (e.g. test.app) are stored
>> 
>> in 'test.app/Contents/Resources/_MacOS/‘ instead of being stored in
>> 'test.app/Contents/MacOS/'
> 
> Yes, Apple required that change a while ago.
> 
>> And if this is correct, how do i open them? At the moment my button
>> script (go stack …) , which works for Windows does not open the
>> substacks in MacOS X. If i move the substacks manually to
>> 'test.app/Contents/MacOS/' then of course my scripts can open them
>> w/o modification.
> 
> Apple doesn't want anything in the folder except the executable now. The best 
> way to handle the files is to use specialFolderPath("resources") as the 
> directory. That will alway point to the correct location on any OS. On Mac, 
> it specifies the Resources folder (and is a synonym for the engine folder for 
> legacy stacks.) So your path should be:
> 
> specialFolderPath("resources") & "/stackname.livecode"
> 
> It will work on Windows too.
> 
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Re: tsneterr: (6) could not resolve host - can anyone else test this?

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Tried it here with

LC 8.1.3, Win 7 Pro, 64bit  -> works
LC 8.1.3, Win 10 Pro, 32bit -> works



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> Am 16.03.2017 um 11:10 schrieb Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> I have not been able to replicate this issue here, but I am using an older 
> version of Windows.
> 
> Is there anyone that can try this on various versions of Windows to see if 
> this problem is specific to Win 10?
> 
> Try typing the following into the message box:
> 
> put URL 
> "http://test_auth:test_p...@downloads.techstrategies.com.au/test_auth/ 
> "
> 
> If it is successful, you should see "Authentication successful." appear in 
> the message box.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> On 16/03/2017 6:31 PM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Tiemo,
>> 
>> I have not heard of this issue before but will see if I can reproduce it and 
>> get back to you.
>> 
>> A workaround would be to use the tsNetGetSync function directly so that you 
>> can specify the user/pass separately like this:
>> 
>> -- 
>> local tHeaders, tOutHeaders, tResultCode, tBytes, tSettings
>> put "public" into tSettings["username"]
>> put "myPW" into tSettings["password"]
>> put tsNetGetSync("http://www.myHost/mypath/my.txt 
>> ", tHeaders, tOutHeaders, tResultCode, 
>> tBytes, tSettings) into tResult
>> -- 
>> 
>> Hope that helps,
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/03/2017 1:00 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Forgot to say: Windows 10
>>> 
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com 
>>> ] Im Auftrag
>>> von Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. März 2017 16:00
>>> An: LiveCode User Liste senden >> >
>>> Cc: Tiemo Hollmann TB >
>>> Betreff: tsneterr: (6) could not resolve host
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> using LC 8.1.2 / 8.1.3 I get an "tsneterr: (6) could not resolve host:
>>> public" when trying to access a file in a web server directory with user and
>>> password protection
>>> 
>>> put URL "http://public:myPW@www.myHost/mypath/my.txt 
>>> " into tResult
>>> 
>>> when opening the same file in a not pw protected directory, everything is
>>> fine and I get the content of the file
>>> 
>>> Testing the same with 8.1 or 9.0 dp 4 it works also with the pw protected
>>> dir, like it should.
>>> 
>>> Is this a known issue with tsnet? Any workarounds?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Tiemo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Help test please? GoLiveNet in v9

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,


LC 8.1.2, Win 10-> works
LC 9.0DP6, Win 10   -> works

LC 8.1.3, Mac Os X 10.12.3  -> works
LC 9.0DP6, Mac Os X 10.12.3 -> works


Regards,
Matthias

> Am 15.03.2017 um 22:07 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hello gang -
> 
> I'm having a tough time figuring out why the GoLiveNet plugin shipping with 
> LC isn't working well for me (BZ#19026).
> 
> If you're using v8 or v9, could you please run this recipe and email me if it 
> doesn't work:
> 
> 1. In the IDE, choose Development -> Plugins - GoLiveNet
> 
> That's it.  When it's working you'll briefly see a progress bar, and then the 
> LiveNet window appears.
> 
> If it doesn't work you'll see an error note in that plugin window.
> 
> Curious what you find. Thanks -
> 
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where does the standalonebuilder saves the substacks in an Mac OS App?

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Hi,

is it correct when the standalone settings of an stack are set to move 
substacks into individual stack files that under Mac OS X the substacks in an 
compiled app (e.g. test.app) are stored
 
in 'test.app/Contents/Resources/_MacOS/‘ instead of being stored in 
'test.app/Contents/MacOS/'


And if this is correct, how do i open them? At the moment my button script (go 
stack …) , which works for Windows does not open the substacks in MacOS X.
If i move the substacks manually to 'test.app/Contents/MacOS/' then of course 
my scripts can open them w/o modification.

Never ran into this before, because  i needed individual substacks only under 
Windows in the past.

Am i missing something? 

Regards,
Matthias
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Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

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Hi Dan,

there is a way to use the old libURL instead of the new tsNet external. If that 
is sufficient for you then you just have to unload the tsNet library before 
building the standalone.
To do this just execute this from within the message box:  

dispatch "revUnloadLibrary" to stack “tsNetLibURL”

If you have set the standalone settings  to automatically search for inclusion, 
then you´re done.
If you have set the inclusions manually you have to make sure that tsNet is not 
checked. 

If you now create a standalone the standard libURL library is used instead of 
tsNet. 


Regards,
Matthias


> Am 04.04.2017 um 19:29 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Thank you everyone for your suggestions.  I’ve been doing it that way for 
> years (save the dll’s as needed at runtime).  The problem is that it seems 
> that an EXE made from LC 9.0 won’t even launch if you include any items 
> related to the internet (Broswer, Internet, SSL, etc) unless the tsNet.dll is 
> present and in the same directory as the exe.  Now, I can fool LC by 
> unchecking these items in the Inclusions panel.  Now the exe launches.  In my 
> “startup” script, I save the dll’s to disk (from custom props) which works 
> fine.   However, the exe errors when you try to access the internet.  Then I 
> thought that it doesn’t know they are there unless you set the externals of 
> the mainStack.  So, when the app launches, in the startup script, I set the 
> externals of the mainStack to the path to the DLLs, but it still fails.  Now 
> I am sad.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Also, what’s with this ginormous DLL “libcef.dll”?  It’s 47.5MB.  Anyone know 
> what that’s related to?
> 
> -Dan
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Re: LC DP5 - export snapshot from grp tGroupNme to file tMyFile as JPEG is not working anymore

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Let me answer myself.;)

The command is correct and should work, if you make sure that not more than one 
group has the same name.



> Am 13.04.2017 um 21:09 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
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> Hi,
> am i missing something?
> 
> This line of code
> 
> export snapshot from grp tGroupWatermarked  to file tMyJpegFile  as JPEG
> 
> worked w/o problem in older LC versions. But in LC9 DP5 i get the following 
> error
> button "Button": execution error at line 3 (export: Empty rectangle), char 1
> 
> 
> Was there a change in DP5 regarding export snapshot?
> 
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
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LC DP5 - export snapshot from grp tGroupNme to file tMyFile as JPEG is not working anymore

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,
am i missing something?

This line of code

export snapshot from grp tGroupWatermarked  to file tMyJpegFile  as JPEG

worked w/o problem in older LC versions. But in LC9 DP5 i get the following 
error
button "Button": execution error at line 3 (export: Empty rectangle), char 1


Was there a change in DP5 regarding export snapshot?


Matthias




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Re: Which code signing authority?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

K Software is a strategic Commodo partner and sells their certificates
They even offer  a free signing tool which makes signing Windows programs/dlls 
very easy.

http://codesigning.ksoftware.net 

And they are selling the Commodo certificates much cheaper than Commodo.
1y / $84
2y / $159
3y / $209
4y / $268


Regards,
Matthias

> Am 20.04.2017 um 14:47 schrieb Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Which code signing authority do you guys suggest using?
> 
> That comes with the apple developer account - but what about for pc and 
> android?
> 
> I would prefer to avoid spending $600 on a certificate if possible, but I 
> don't know how well-accepted the less expensive certificates are.
> 
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Re: accents, graves & other funny charecters...

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I´ve entered the following text

Route Forestière de la Réserve, 50680 Cerisy-la-Forêt, France 

into Ultraedit and set the encoding to UTF-8 i get this here

Route Forestière de la Réserve, 50680 Cerisy-la-Forêt, France

, which is the correct spelling then.

It seems your text is in MacRoman and needs to be converter to UTF-8 to get it 
displayed correctly.

But don´t ask me how.., i´ve always problems when it comes to encoding. ;)




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> Am 15.04.2017 um 18:52 schrieb John Dixon via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> I always struggle with , or I should say with how liveCode and unicode 
> interact and how many times it changes about hoow to use it as always left me 
> confused...
> 
> 
> Now, in fld "coord", I have ... 49.196839,-0.907385
> 
> I throw this at google and it returns the address...
> 
> Route Forestière de la Réserve, 50680 Cerisy-la-Forêt, France,
> 
> Can someone please show me, tell me... even shout at me ... what do I need to 
> do to sort out these 'funny charecters' ?
> 
> 
> on mouseUp
> 
> put 
> "http://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/geocode/json?latlng==true 
> "
>  into theURL
> 
> replace "" with fld "coord" in theURL
> 
> put URL theURL into temp
> 
> put lineOffset("formatted_address",temp) into red
> 
> set itemdel to ":"
> 
> put item 2 of line red of temp into theAddress
> 
> replace quote with empty in theAddress
> 
> delete char 1 of theAddress
> 
> put boo into fld 1
> 
> end mouseUp
> 
> 
> dixie
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Re: should i report it as a bug when a library is not included into a standalone when "search for required inclusions" is selected

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Thanks Bob for your comment. I reported it now.

Regards,

Matthias Rebbe




> Am 08.03.2017 um 01:23 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> If there is nothing unusual in how you start using the library, like in a do 
> command or something, I think so. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2017, at 16:09 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> maybe a dumb question, but should i report it as a bug when  a library is 
>> not automatically  included into a standalone when "search for required 
>> inclusions" is selected in the standalone settings?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
> 
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should i report it as a bug when a library is not included into a standalone when "search for required inclusions" is selected

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Hi,

maybe a dumb question, but should i report it as a bug when  a library is not 
automatically  included into a standalone when "search for required inclusions" 
is selected in the standalone settings?

Regards,
Matthias



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Re: Passing Variables in a non-CGI LC Server?

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> Am 07.04.2017 um 04:46 schrieb Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Ok, let me clarify if I can.  LC Server as it
> is installed out of the box without setting
> it up as it used to be set up in the old days.
> 
> I have three webpages.  The first accepts
> the user’s input into various fields and then
> passes that information to the next webpage
> through the user's web browser.  
> That works fine.  Then without writing those parameters
> out to a database, I want to pass those
> now hidden parameters to the next webpage
> for further processing before writing those
> values out to the database.  

is the third website just for further processing w/o an output to the user or 
do you also want to output some information to the user?

case 1
You could use the http post or get method to pass the parametesr to the 3rd 
script/website from the 2nd script and return the result then to  the 2nd 
script.
Be aware that your 2nd scrip or better said every lc script, needs to do an 
output, even if it´s just a blank. Otherwise the server returns an error 500

case 2
 If i remember right, put header allows you to redirect. So in your 2nd 
script/website after you´ve done whatever you could use put header to redirect 
using put header:

something like this
put "http://yoursite.com?param1 
" into tURL
put  header "Status: 301”
put header "Location:" && tURL
put “redirecting…”   — i am not sure if this last line is still needed, but in 
older versions of lcServer it was.


Matthias




> 
> How are people handling that process?  
> Or am I forced into writing everything out 
> to the database and then reading it all 
> back in just to go from one page to the next 
> to the next?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> Rick Harrison wrote:
>> 
>>> So the answer is - only in a stack.
>>> Perhaps the dictionary should have
>>> a comment stating or clarifying that fact.
>> 
>> Mike said:
>> 
>>  Can't answer the rest, but as for the global.. Since you can utilize
>>  stacks with server, you could declare a global just as you would
>>  normally, in any scripts that needed it, and it would work just like
>>  in lc proper.  It would only persist during the run of that
>>  particular instance.
>> 
>> LiveCode globals are available to all scripts that declare them within the 
>> LiveCode process.
>> 
>> I think maybe the reason Mike's reply was focused on stacks is that it's not 
>> clear what you're doing.
>> 
>> Your original post said:
>> 
>> I have a few variables I would like to pass from one > server script to another using a web  browser with an lc
>> server that is not configured to be a cgi server.
>> 
>> Since LC Server runs as a CGI, and even if you were using a standalone on 
>> the server as a daemon it would still be on the server and not in the client 
>> browser, I can't figure out what that sentence means.
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>> 
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Re: Passing Variables in a non-CGI LC Server?

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> Am 07.04.2017 um 18:21 schrieb Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Yes, I want to output some information to the user, and other
> information remains hidden - where some data is adjusted,
> modified, on the third webpage.
> 
> No, I’m not looking to redirect to another webpage, although
> I have used that technique in the past on other types of
> webservers.
> 

So then you could post the parameters from 2nd script/webpage  to the 3rd 
webpage/script (post myData to URL destinationURL) and  then output the result 
or what ever the 3rd script/webpage returns.

This way you do not need to pass the parameters to the url.

> I’d rather not have the parameters put into the URL where
> the user can see it if possible for security reasons, but
> if that’s the only way I suppose I could encrypt it before
> passing it through that way.

> 
> Thank you for your input!
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 2:03 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> is the third website just for further processing w/o an output to the user 
>> or do you also want to output some information to the user?
>> 
>> case 1
>> You could use the http post or get method to pass the parametesr to the 3rd 
>> script/website from the 2nd script and return the result then to  the 2nd 
>> script.
>> Be aware that your 2nd scrip or better said every lc script, needs to do an 
>> output, even if it´s just a blank. Otherwise the server returns an error 500
>> 
>> case 2
>> If i remember right, put header allows you to redirect. So in your 2nd 
>> script/website after you´ve done whatever you could use put header to 
>> redirect using put header:
>> 
>> something like this
>> put "http://yoursite.com?param1 
>> <http://yoursite.com/?param1> 
>> <http://yoursite.com/?param1 
>> <http://yoursite.com/?param1>>" into tURL
>> put  header "Status: 301”
>> put header "Location:" && tURL
>> put “redirecting…”   — i am not sure if this last line is still needed, but 
>> in older versions of lcServer it was.
>> 
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: HTML5: mixed signals

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No, that means, that you have to release your source code to the public when 
using the community version, while you don´t have to do it when you have a 
commercial license.

Matthias
> Am 28.07.2017 um 15:12 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Well, that is reasonably obvious . . .
> 
> Presumably (?) that means that HTML5 things hived-off the Community version 
> of LiveCode are in readable Java-script and may be opened
> and edited as such,
> 
> while the version of HTML5 available for $299/year hives-off protected code?
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> On 7/28/17 2:39 pm, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote:
>> Um. Like every other platform for LiveCode, there is an open source 
>> Community version of HTML5. Not seeing the problem here? You pay for 
>> commercial, closed source. You use Community free and share your code.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Heather
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Jul 2017, at 12:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just recieved an e-mail from LiveCode central offering me a licence for 
>>> HTML5
>>> for $299/year.
>>> 
>>> And that seems 'normal' considering my Indy licence does NOT include a 
>>> licence for HTML5.
>>> 
>>> BUT: the Community version allowed me to build an HTML5 thing.
>>> 
>>> That also seems a bit arsy-versy.
>>> 
>>> Richmond.
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CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,
i get the error 

stack "Untitled 1": execution error at line n/a (External handler execution 
error: creation failed) near "creation failed"

when executing the following script in ide

   local tBrowserId
   put revBrowserOpenCEF(the windowId of this stack, "http://www.livecode.com 
" ) into tBrowserId
   if tBrowserId is not an integer then
  answer "Failed to open browser"
   end if
   revBrowserSet tBrowserID, "rect" , the rect of graphic "rectangle"
   
Tried in LC 8.1.5 and LC 9 DP8.

I cannot see an error in the script, if i use revBrowserOpen instead of 
revBrowserOpenCeF then it works.

Am i missing something?

Regards
Matthias


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Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

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Mark,

I cannot use the widget because of bug #20200.

If we can expect a fix for 20200 then there would be no need for a  bug report 
for the browser external.

Or is it more realistic that if i report it as a bug that  the browser external 
is fixed earlier than bug 20200?


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> Am 30.07.2017 um 00:57 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> On 2017-07-30 00:44, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> stack "Untitled 1": execution error at line n/a (External handler
>> execution error: creation failed) near "creation failed"
>> Am i missing something?
> 
> It might be a bug - there's been a fair amount of churn in CEF stuff in 
> recent versions so we might have missed something with regards revBrowserCEF.
> 
> Is there any reason you are using revBrowser rather than the browser widget?
> 
> If there is then please let us know asap (file a bug) so we can fix it.
> 
> The fact is that revBrowser is on the verge of being deprecated and then 
> quickly axed (for a number of reasons).
> 
> [ For existing projects, this isn't really a problem - its an external so 
> current built versions will work for some time to come - and we'll make sure 
> the S/B still plays nicely with it as it requires some special fu to get to 
> work - it would be better if we weren't having to support two variants of the 
> same rather complicated thing, and people didn't start using it 'by mistake' 
> because they hadn't discovered the widget ].
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
> -- 
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Re: revHTTP

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Alex,

it´s include in LC 9 DP7 and up.

Please note that you have to manually load it with
start using stack "httpd"

This is a known issue and was mentioned in the “Known issues” in the release 
emails, but unfortunately not in the release notes.

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> Am 31.07.2017 um 22:18 schrieb Monte Goulding via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi Alex
> 
> You could use the new httpd library that is already included in LiveCode 9 
> for this. Indeed this is what it was created for. We build a standalone with 
> all our tests and serve it with the library. What would be ideal is to create 
> a deploy library similar to the the iOS and Android ones. That way the Test 
> button would build and launch the standalone in your browser. 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Monte
> 
>> On 1 Aug 2017, at 5:22 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have a copy of (or a currently working link to) Andre's revHTTP ?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> P.S. I'm thinking of making a script-only stack that is a UI-free Simple 
>> HTTP server - and then suggesting to Livecode Ltd that the HTML5 deployment 
>> guide recommend it rather than the Python SimpleHTTPServer solution 
>> currently suggested. Building this on top of Andre's core code would 
>> probably mean I'd get a working version, without too many bugs, much more 
>> quickly than if I do it myself.
>> 
>> P.P.S and as a bonus, I'd then be able to add the bridge/relay function 
>> easily, so I can download off-domain web pages for my little app :-)
>> 
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Re: revHTTP

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https://bitbucket.org/andregarzia/revonrockets/src/b4262227f94fd5b4efec828b3c0e88650e222e49/RevHTTP/?at=default
 



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> Am 31.07.2017 um 21:22 schrieb Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Does anyone have a copy of (or a currently working link to) Andre's revHTTP ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Alex
> 
> P.S. I'm thinking of making a script-only stack that is a UI-free Simple HTTP 
> server - and then suggesting to Livecode Ltd that the HTML5 deployment guide 
> recommend it rather than the Python SimpleHTTPServer solution currently 
> suggested. Building this on top of Andre's core code would probably mean I'd 
> get a working version, without too many bugs, much more quickly than if I do 
> it myself.
> 
> P.P.S and as a bonus, I'd then be able to add the bridge/relay function 
> easily, so I can download off-domain web pages for my little app :-)
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Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

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> Am 30.07.2017 um 11:22 schrieb hh via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> @Matthias
> "revbrowserOpenCEF" is deprecated since at least one year or so.
> Also note: revBrowserInstances() doesn't work after"revbrowserOpenCEF”.
> 
Unfortunately I trusted the dictionary.

> Also note if you use revBrowserOpen:
> Then Mac is the only platform that supports HTML5/canvas2d.
> 

Thanks for this note.

Matthias

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Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

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The dictionary in 8 and 9 shows CEF as available for Win and Mac. So i will at 
least file a report about that.




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> Am 30.07.2017 um 10:20 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> The solution here is to use revBrowserOpen.
> 
> I missed the fact this is on macOS. We removed CEF on Mac in 8, as it was not 
> possible to use CEF on Mac as a slave (for technical reasons).
> 
> The system web view on Mac is still WebKit based so they are very similar.
> 
> Sorry for the confusion!
> 
> Mark.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Jul 2017, at 19:06, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> I cannot use the widget because of bug #20200.
>> 
>> If we can expect a fix for 20200 then there would be no need for a  bug 
>> report for the browser external.
>> 
>> Or is it more realistic that if i report it as a bug that  the browser 
>> external is fixed earlier than bug 20200?
>> 
>> 
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> +49 5741 31
>> ‌matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>>‌
>> 
>>> Am 30.07.2017 um 00:57 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com><mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> On 2017-07-30 00:44, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> stack "Untitled 1": execution error at line n/a (External handler
>>>> execution error: creation failed) near "creation failed"
>>>> Am i missing something?
>>> 
>>> It might be a bug - there's been a fair amount of churn in CEF stuff in 
>>> recent versions so we might have missed something with regards 
>>> revBrowserCEF.
>>> 
>>> Is there any reason you are using revBrowser rather than the browser widget?
>>> 
>>> If there is then please let us know asap (file a bug) so we can fix it.
>>> 
>>> The fact is that revBrowser is on the verge of being deprecated and then 
>>> quickly axed (for a number of reasons).
>>> 
>>> [ For existing projects, this isn't really a problem - its an external so 
>>> current built versions will work for some time to come - and we'll make 
>>> sure the S/B still plays nicely with it as it requires some special fu to 
>>> get to work - it would be better if we weren't having to support two 
>>> variants of the same rather complicated thing, and people didn't start 
>>> using it 'by mistake' because they hadn't discovered the widget ].
>>> 
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mark.
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> <mailto:m...@livecode.com <mailto:m...@livecode.com>> ~ 
>>> http://www.livecode.com/ 
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Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Done.
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20206 
<http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20206>

And as the error message thing is kind of a feature request i filed a separate 
one
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20207 
<http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20207>





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> Am 30.07.2017 um 11:46 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Yes please do - also maybe mention we should make revBrowserOpenCEF throw a 
> more appropriate error in macOS.
> 
> General advice on Mac use open, on win/Linux use openCef. This will give you 
> reasonably consistent environments on all three desktop platforms.
> 
> Mark.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 30 Jul 2017, at 05:10, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The dictionary in 8 and 9 shows CEF as available for Win and Mac. So i will 
>> at least file a report about that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> +49 5741 31
>> ‌matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>>‌
>> 
>>> Am 30.07.2017 um 10:20 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> The solution here is to use revBrowserOpen.
>>> 
>>> I missed the fact this is on macOS. We removed CEF on Mac in 8, as it was 
>>> not possible to use CEF on Mac as a slave (for technical reasons).
>>> 
>>> The system web view on Mac is still WebKit based so they are very similar.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the confusion!
>>> 
>>> Mark.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Jul 2017, at 19:06, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> I cannot use the widget because of bug #20200.
>>>> 
>>>> If we can expect a fix for 20200 then there would be no need for a  bug 
>>>> report for the browser external.
>>>> 
>>>> Or is it more realistic that if i report it as a bug that  the browser 
>>>> external is fixed earlier than bug 20200?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>>> +49 5741 31
>>>> ‌matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>>>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>>>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>>>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>>>‌
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 30.07.2017 um 00:57 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>><mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>>>>>  <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2017-07-30 00:44, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>>>>>> stack "Untitled 1": execution error at line n/a (External handler
>>>>>> execution error: creation failed) near "creation failed"
>>>>>> Am i missing something?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It might be a bug - there's been a fair amount of churn in CEF stuff in 
>>>>> recent versions so we might have missed something with regards 
>>>>> revBrowserCEF.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there any reason you are using revBrowser rather than the browser 
>>>>> widget?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is then please let us know asap (file a bug) so we can fix it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The fact is that revBrowser is on the verge of being deprecated and th

Re: Made with . . .

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Reading the comments on amazon for the 2nd book i read something about a 
computer science course of Harvard called CS50.
A little search gave me this URL which let you take this course for free. 
http://cs50.tv/2016/fall/ 

The about section at that page says: Even if you are not a student at Harvard, 
you are welcome to "take" this course via cs50.tv by following along via the 
Internet. (The course's own website is at cs50.harvard.edu 
.) Available at right are videos of lectures, 
walkthroughs, and seminars along with PDFs of all handouts. Also available at 
right are the course's problem sets.

Maybe this is of interest for one or the other.

Matthias


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> Am 03.08.2017 um 00:43 schrieb Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi Richmond,
> 
> Some years ago, Alex Tweedly recommended this book
> to learn C. I bought this for US$ 30 on Amazon:
> https://www.amazon.com/Illustrating-C-Ansi-Iso-Version/dp/0521468213 
> 
> 
> More recently, another developer recommended this 2015 book:
> https://www.amazon.com/Programming-Absolute-Beginners-Guide-3rd/dp/0789751984/
>  
> 
> 
> Al
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Re: SMS message in LC?

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Hi Bill,
about 1 or 2 years ago i needed to send automated sms messages. I used 
Clickatell (http://www.clickatell.com ) for it.
They have a very easy API.
https://www.clickatell.com/developers/platform/api-documentation/ 


Regards,
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> Am 09.08.2017 um 19:26 schrieb ELS prothero via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Folks:
> Has anybody done sms and voice messaging in livecode apps? I’m looking into 
> whether it would be feasible to create an app for emergency alerts. I am in a 
> neighborhood where there is a high wildfire danger and various existing 
> emergency alert systems are either very expensive or more optimized for 
> marketing.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> Best,
> Bill P.
> 
> William Prothero, PhD
> Professor Emeritus
> University of California, Santa Barbara
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org 
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

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This feature in general is a good idea. 

But
- make it more visible that those handler are not current handler of the 
script, e.g. grey out that list
- allow a bigger space between the script handler and the handler list
- show this list by default, so new users see that list by default,  but allow 
the user to switch if of in prefs
- if disabled in the prefs,  allow the user to show the list by pressing a 
short key

 or 
- put this list somewhere else, but not below the script handler

Matthias

> Am 12.07.2017 um 00:07 schrieb Kevin Miller via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Is it something perhaps you could get used to?
> 
> We are working hard to attract new users to the platform. This has come up
> again and again in user testing. This evening we tested this new handler
> list on new users for the first time. It went over very well.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
> LiveCode: Everyone can create apps
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/07/2017, 23:05, "use-livecode on behalf of Matthias Rebbe via
> use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> +49 5741 31
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> A new feature in the script editor has been added, this is the ability
>>> to
>>> choose from a list of default handlers to add to the object script.
>> 
>> I am not sure if i like this new handler list. At least at that place. I
>> find it somehow disturbing. I am not sure if this is the correct
>> expression.
>> Is there a way to hide that list in the editor? Or is there a way to make
>> at least the height of that list smaller?
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Re: Fat widgets

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Thanks Kevin. That´s working. To be honest, i did not know this command until 
your post.

Regards,
Matthias

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> Am 08.07.2017 um 19:37 schrieb Kevin Miller via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> I haven't encountered this because our widgets are a library. But - I'm 
> guessing - you could try the revert command?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 8 Jul 2017, at 15:49, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you very much. :)
>> 
>> This makes it so much easier to test stacks between 8 and 9.
>> 
>> I had to make some adjustments, because the source of my extensions is 
>> stored somewhere else and the updateMessage is also not present.
>> I get the widget recompiled when i load the stack, but the widget in the 
>> stack still does not show up correctly. I have to unload and reload the 
>> stack again.
>> Can i somehow refresh the stack w/o having to unload and load again?
> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 -- tsneterr

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Dan,

before creating the standalone you can disable the tsNet external
To unload:

  dispatch "revUnloadLibrary" to stack "tsNetLibUrl"

To load again:
  dispatch "revLoadLibrary" to stack “tsNetLibUrl"

Regards,
Matthias

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> Am 11.07.2017 um 19:33 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> I am porting a large project from LC 7 to 8.1.5.  Occasionally, I get this 
> error when accessing the internet:  “tsneterr: Not initialised” (misspelled, 
> by the way).   It works fine for a while, then it just fails.  And, once it 
> fails you have to completely restart.  Sometimes LC even crashes!
> 
> It seems to be happening when one network connection isn’t finished and it 
> tries to start another one.   I did not have this problem in LC 7 using 
> libURL.  So, I’m pretty confident it’s something with tsNet.
> 
> If it’s because tsNet calls are crashing into each other, and If all calls 
> [by default] are blocking, how could one connection be started before the 
> previous one is completed?
> 
> I had this problem with previous versions of 8.1, but I was hoping it would 
> be fixed in 8.1.5.
> 
> Anyone have any insight?   I would very much like to move forward with tsNet, 
> but if this isn’t resolved, I can’t.  Is it possible to continue with 8.1.5, 
> and still use the old libURL?
> 
> 
> -Dan
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 -- tsneterr

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Hi Dan,

reading my comment makes me think that it is confusing.
What i wanted to say was,

To use the “old” libURL unload tsNET as described, then create the standalone.
The standalone then will use the old libURL.

One little caveat. The created standalone still contains the tsNET external, 
although it does not use it. See Bug 19900 
<http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19900>

Regards,
Matthias

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> Am 11.07.2017 um 21:26 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Dan,
> 
> before creating the standalone you can disable the tsNet external
> To unload:
> 
>  dispatch "revUnloadLibrary" to stack "tsNetLibUrl"
> 
> To load again:
>  dispatch "revLoadLibrary" to stack “tsNetLibUrl"
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
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> 
>> Am 11.07.2017 um 19:33 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>> 
>> I am porting a large project from LC 7 to 8.1.5.  Occasionally, I get this 
>> error when accessing the internet:  “tsneterr: Not initialised” (misspelled, 
>> by the way).   It works fine for a while, then it just fails.  And, once it 
>> fails you have to completely restart.  Sometimes LC even crashes!
>> 
>> It seems to be happening when one network connection isn’t finished and it 
>> tries to start another one.   I did not have this problem in LC 7 using 
>> libURL.  So, I’m pretty confident it’s something with tsNet.
>> 
>> If it’s because tsNet calls are crashing into each other, and If all calls 
>> [by default] are blocking, how could one connection be started before the 
>> previous one is completed?
>> 
>> I had this problem with previous versions of 8.1, but I was hoping it would 
>> be fixed in 8.1.5.
>> 
>> Anyone have any insight?   I would very much like to move forward with 
>> tsNet, but if this isn’t resolved, I can’t.  Is it possible to continue with 
>> 8.1.5, and still use the old libURL?
>> 
>> 
>> -Dan
>> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

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> 
> 
> A new feature in the script editor has been added, this is the ability to
> choose from a list of default handlers to add to the object script.

I am not sure if i like this new handler list. At least at that place. I find 
it somehow disturbing. I am not sure if this is the correct expression.
Is there a way to hide that list in the editor? Or is there a way to make at 
least the height of that list smaller?
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Re: Feature Race: Pick Your Project

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Same here. 
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> Am 06.07.2017 um 21:37 schrieb François Chaplais via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> I get « certificate has expired. please use a valid certificate »  
> (translated from french)
> François
>> Le 6 juil. 2017 à 21:33, Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
>> > a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>> Can't pay, get this message...
>> Error Detected
>> Error Message
>> 
>> The certificate has expired. Please use a valid certificate.
>> The certificate has expired. Please use a valid certificate.
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
>> 
>>> We had a last minute call from someone offering to pledge the rest. I was
>>> entering it for him with, yes, shaky hands and I pressed the wrong button.
>>> Total went down! Not Up! My fault. We extended by 4 minutes to allow that
>>> pledge to go through.
>>> 
>>> Good? Bad? Seemed like the right thing to do.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Heather
>>> 
>>> Heather Laine
>>> Customer Services Manager
>>> LiveCode Ltd
>>> www.livecode.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6 Jul 2017, at 20:14, Dan Brown via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 Hmm after the timer ran out the page showed  "project unsuccessful" with
 only $23,428 raised. Now its showing as fully funded and successful.
>>> Happy
 but erm baffled.
 
 Slick grids here we come though!
 
 On 6 Jul 2017 8:06 pm, "hh via use-livecode" <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
 wrote:
 
> 185 backers. No comment.
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Re: Fat widgets

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Thank you very much. :)

This makes it so much easier to test stacks between 8 and 9.

I had to make some adjustments, because the source of my extensions is stored 
somewhere else and the updateMessage is also not present.
I get the widget recompiled when i load the stack, but the widget in the stack 
still does not show up correctly. I have to unload and reload the stack again.
Can i somehow refresh the stack w/o having to unload and load again?

Matthias

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> Am 08.07.2017 um 15:43 schrieb Kevin Miller via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> I don¹t see why not:
> 
> on openStack
>   -- Build widgets and libraries
>   if the environment is "development" then
>  _checkExtension _rootFolder() & "/extensions/com.library.folder.here"
> -- insert any others here
> end if
> 
> end openStack
> 
> --
> -- Remove all the files with the extension pExtension in the
> -- current directory
> --
> command _removeExtension pExtension
>   get "find . -depth 1 -name " & quote & "*." & pExtension & quote && "
> -exec rm {} \;"
>   get shell(it)
> end _removeExtension
> --
> -- _checkExtension pFolder
> --
> -- Proceed to build and install the extension in pFolder if need be
> --
> command _checkExtension pFolder
>   local tOldFolder, tFiles
>   local tExtensionFolder
> 
>   set the itemDel to slash
> 
>   put item -1 of pFolder into tExtensionFolder
> 
>   put the defaultFolder into tOldFolder
>   set the defaultFolder to pFolder
> 
>   put the detailed files into tFiles
> 
>   set the itemDel to comma
> 
>   local tPackageTime, tLcbTime, tPackageName
> 
>   repeat for each line tFile in tFiles
>  local tFilename
>  put urlDecode(item 1 of tFile) into tFilename
> 
>  if tFilename ends with ".lce" then
> -- Get the last modification date of the package
> put item 5 of tFile into tPackageTime
> put urlDecode(tFilename) into tPackageName
> 
>  else if tFilename ends with ".lcb" then
> -- LCB file we want to check
> put item 5 of tFile into tLcbTime
>  end if
>   end repeat
> 
>   -- Guess the extension name from the folder - only take the
>   -- first 4 segments, as orientabletext folder, for instance,
>   -- also has the version appended to the widget name
>   local tExtensionName
>   set the itemDel to "."
>   put item 1 to 4 of tExtensionFolder into tExtensionName
> 
>   if tPackageTime is empty or tPackagetime < tLcbTime or \
> tExtensionName is not among the lines of the loadedExtensions then
>  -- Missing or outdated extension package, or extension not loaded
>  updateMessage "Building and installing extension" && tExtensionFolder
> 
>  _removeExtension "lci"
>  _removeExtension "lce"
>  _removeExtension "lcm"
>  _removeExtension "xml"
> 
>  -- Make sure to remove the extension beforehand, installation does
> not
>  -- work properly if the extension already exists
>  revIDEDeveloperExtensionUninstall pFolder
> 
>  wait 500 milliseconds with messages
> 
>  revIDEDeveloperExtensionInstall pFolder
> 
>  load extension from file tPackageName
> 
>  -- Let the IDE load the extension
>  wait 500 milliseconds with messages
>   end if
> 
>   set the defaultFolder to tOldFolder
> end _checkExtension
> 
> --
> -- _rootFolder
> --
> -- Return the root folder of the application
> --
> function _rootFolder
>   if the environment is "development" then
>  set the itemDel to slash
>  return item 1 to -3 of the filename of me
> 
>   else
>  return specialFolderPath("engine")
>   end if
> end _rootFolder
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com <mailto:ke...@livecode.com> ~ 
> http://www.livecode.com/ <http://www.livecode.com/>
> LiveCode: Everyone can create apps
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/07/2017, 14:30, "use-livecode on behalf of Matthias Rebbe via
> use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com 
> <mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com> on behalf of
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Kevin,
>> 
>> is it possible to get that script or is it not for the public?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
>> 
>> Matthias Rebbe
&

Re: Feature Race: Pick Your Project

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Me too.

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> Am 06.07.2017 um 23:07 schrieb François Chaplais via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> It seems to be fixed now. I was able to pay an hour ago (or so)
> François
>> Le 6 juil. 2017 à 21:41, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> a 
>> écrit :
>> 
>> Same here. 
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> +49 5741 31
>> ‌matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>>‌
>> 
>>> Am 06.07.2017 um 21:37 schrieb François Chaplais via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> I get « certificate has expired. please use a valid certificate »  
>>> (translated from french)
>>> François
>>>> Le 6 juil. 2017 à 21:33, Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> Can't pay, get this message...
>>>> Error Detected
>>>> Error Message
>>>> 
>>>> The certificate has expired. Please use a valid certificate.
>>>> The certificate has expired. Please use a valid certificate.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We had a last minute call from someone offering to pledge the rest. I was
>>>>> entering it for him with, yes, shaky hands and I pressed the wrong button.
>>>>> Total went down! Not Up! My fault. We extended by 4 minutes to allow that
>>>>> pledge to go through.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good? Bad? Seemed like the right thing to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Heather
>>>>> 
>>>>> Heather Laine
>>>>> Customer Services Manager
>>>>> LiveCode Ltd
>>>>> www.livecode.com <http://www.livecode.com/> <http://www.livecode.com/ 
>>>>> <http://www.livecode.com/>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 Jul 2017, at 20:14, Dan Brown via use-livecode <
>>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm after the timer ran out the page showed  "project unsuccessful" with
>>>>>> only $23,428 raised. Now its showing as fully funded and successful.
>>>>> Happy
>>>>>> but erm baffled.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Slick grids here we come though!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 Jul 2017 8:06 pm, "hh via use-livecode" <
>>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 185 backers. No comment.
>>>>>>> 
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start/stop using font file...

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,
maybe i am missing something,

but when i unload a font in LC using

stop using font file ….

“the result” does not contain an error but the font is still listed in “the 
fontnames”, although it is not listed anymore in “the FontFilesInUse” does not 
contain any error.

And i can still able to use the font.

Here´s a sample script i am using for testing.
//
   if "DS-digital-Bold.ttf" is in files(specialfolderpath("resources"))
   then start using font file (specialfolderpath("resources") & 
"/ds-digital-bold.ttf")
   
   set the textfont of fld 1 to "DS-digital Bold"
   if  the result is not empty then answer the result
   answer the fontfilesinuse
   put the fontnames into tFonts
   filter tFonts with "DS*"
   answer tFonts
   
   set the textfont of fld 1 to "arial"
   
   stop using font file (specialfolderpath("resources") & 
"/ds-digital-bold.ttf")
   
   if the result is not empty then answer the result
   answer the fontfilesinuse
   put the fontnames into tFonts
   filter tFonts with "DS*"
   answer tFonts
   set the textfont of fld 1 to "DS-digital Bold"
//

Even after unloading the font i am still able to set the textfont of a fld to 
the unloaded font.

Is this the normal behaviour?

Tried with 8.1.4 and 8.1.5RC3

Regards,

Matthias 

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Re: debugging a CEF browser instance

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Bernard,

in case you are filing a bug report could you please post the bug id here?
I would like to add a comment with some websites urls i have problems with when 
using the widget /CEF browser.


Regards,
Matthias

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> Am 08.07.2017 um 14:59 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi Bernard,
> 
> There's no list, no. The widget is a reasonably thin wrapper around either 
> CEF or (on Mac, iOS and Android) the system provided WebView.
> 
> Without actually seeing cases to investigate which do not work as expected it 
> is hard to advise what the problem might be (although 'cross origin requests' 
> is one possibility).
> 
> Certainly as we discover such issues documenting them in the dictionary would 
> be useful.
> 
> As mentioned before if you could file a bug report so we can look into it, 
> that would be most helpful.
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 8 Jul 2017, at 09:59, Bernard Devlin via use-livecode 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> I suspect this is the problem. Is there a list of things which the LC
>> embedded browser forbids? Is there an explanation of the rationale for the
>> embedded browser to behave differently from a default browser?
>> 
>> This should be noted in the Dictionary, perhaps in the top entry
>> of: com.livecode.widget.browser.  Those who try Livecode for the first time
>> and discover that the browser widget "doesn't work reliably" (which is how
>> it appeared to me) may simply give up on Livecode.  Indeed, it might be
>> better if a warning appears when a page attempts to do something that has
>> been restricted (assuming the browser widget throws an exception when such
>> things happen).
>> 
>> Regards
>> Bernard
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The fact it doesn't work in either Mac's WebView of CEF may suggest that
>>> the webpage
>>> is doing something which is 'not allowed' by default
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Re: Fat widgets

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Kevin,

is it possible to get that script or is it not for the public?

Regards,
Matthias

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> Am 08.07.2017 um 12:32 schrieb Kevin Miller via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> What we do one one large project that uses widgets and moves between 8 and
> 9 is to automatically recompile them on startup using a script. The logic
> is simple - if a try determines the widget library functions are not
> running and available, uninstall the widget, recompile it and reinstall
> it. Its pretty much instant to do that and its mean that (in this project
> at least) we¹ve stopped thinking about this issue.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com  ~ 
> http://www.livecode.com/ 
> LiveCode: Everyone can create apps
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/07/2017, 11:22, "use-livecode on behalf of hh via use-livecode"
>   on behalf of
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
> 
>> This is the current situation:
>> [*] A stack that contains a widget that is compiled with LC 8.1.5
>> can not be used with any other LC version than LC 8.1.5,
>> [*] A stack that contains a widget that is compiled with LC 9.0.0
>> can not be used with any other LC version than LC 9.0.0
>> 
>> Mark Waddingham did recently already post thoughts to that here (see
>> below).
>> 
>> Option (1) below is the build of "fat widgets" that contain several
>> binaries,
>> one for each currently valid widget format. Would be great, thus one
>> could be
>> "downward compatible" in LC 8/9.
>> 
>> Is there any chance to enable such "fat widgets" in the short future?
>> [And how is this solved for the current company-widgets (Clock etc.)?]
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2017; 11:10 Mark wrote:
 [MatthiasRebbe wrote:] Mark,
 regarding to recompiling widget for newer LC version:
 If i use LC 8 and 9, do i have to recompile it every time i use the
 other version?
>>> 
>>> Right now - yes - the lcm (compiled LCB) formats are not compatible.
>>> 
>>> There are a couple of potential solutions:
>>> 
>>> 1) Make it so that multiple LCM versions can sit in the same extension.
>>> We can package up the lcb toolchain for each version as a distinct
>>> download to help with this.
>>> 
>>> 2) Have a plugin in the IDE which fetches a git repo containing a widget
>>> (or widgets) and compiles them locally. lc-compile is really lightweight
>>> and bundled into the IDE so doing this automatically is quite
>>> straight-forward.
>>> 
>>> Case (1) would work for people wanting to distribute lce files which
>>> people can just install on their machine. Case (2) is suitable
>>> particularly for community widgets - it would mean that anyone
>>> subscribing to a particular 'widget repo' could get updates as soon as
>>> they are pushed by the maintainer.
>>> 
>>> I think it is worth doing (1) regardless - it is a simple matter of
>>> having say 'module.8.lcm' and 'module.9.lcm' files. The 9 format is
>>> unstable until we go GM, but the 8 format is now 'stable' - i.e. won't
>>> change ever again.
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 -- tsneterr

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

You mean, you want to call that in the standalone?
I am not sure. I would say this  is a question either for Charles Warwick or 
the people at Livecode.
 
> Am 12.07.2017 um 17:13 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Matthias,
> 
> If I build the standalone with tsNet selected, could I call:
> 
>   dispatch "revUnloadLibrary" to stack "tsNetLibUrl"
> 
> at runtime to switch back to libURL?   If so, this would give me the option 
> to use either one.
> 
> Thanks!
> -Dan
> 
> 
> On 7/11/17, 6:13 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of 
> use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com"  on behalf of use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>Hi Dan,
> 
>reading my comment makes me think that it is confusing.
>What i wanted to say was,
> 
>To use the ?old? libURL unload tsNET as described, then create the 
> standalone.
>The standalone then will use the old libURL.
> 
>One little caveat. The created standalone still contains the tsNET 
> external, although it does not use it. See Bug?19900 
> 
> 
>Regards,
>Matthias
> 
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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to enable 
it for you.

Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
 accepts that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then 
i would assume that your server is blocking the incoming connection from 
on-rev. If that works, then  livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp 
outgoing connections.

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> Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
>  back when they were having lots of reliability problems. 
> We're using a host in Japan; no LC server installed, nor is it installable.
> 
> I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com , and 
> use quite a few .lc scripts, calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on 
> the new host.
> 
> Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my 
> scripts on on-rev.com  to get the directory listing of 
> the mp3 files on the new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine 
> from LC desktop (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
> put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
> " into myVariable
> 
> Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
> error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp  port 21: 
> Connection refused
> 
> (gmoserver.jp  is our new host here in Japan.)
> 
> Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but 
> not LC desktop? Anyways around this?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Sending an FTP command from one web server to another?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Tim,

i had some time during lunch and  made a quick test on my on-rev account at the 
Jasmine server. 
I am able to list the files of a non on-rev server without problems using 
livecode server. Jasmine runs version 7.1.0 of lc server.

Regards,
Matthias



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> Am 18.07.2017 um 12:50 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Good idea. I just sent support an email asking to have ssh activated!
> 
> I'll post again with results!
> 
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
> 
> On 2017.07.18, 19:12, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> Do you have ssh access for your on-rev  account? If not, ask support to 
>> enable it for you.
>> 
>> Try to use ftp from the commandline, just to see if gmoserver.jp 
>> <http://gmoserver.jp/> <http://gmoserver.jp/ <http://gmoserver.jp/>> accepts 
>> that connection. If that also doesn´t work, then i would assume that your 
>> server is blocking the incoming connection from on-rev. If that works, then  
>> livecode server seems to have a problem with ftp outgoing connections.
>> 
>> Matthias
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>> 
>>> Am 18.07.2017 um 10:38 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> My company gave up on hosting our email and website at on-rev.com 
>>> <http://on-rev.com/> <http://on-rev.com/ <http://on-rev.com/>> back when 
>>> they were having lots of reliability problems. We're using a host in Japan; 
>>> no LC server installed, nor is it installable.
>>> 
>>> I still have our Founder's account on on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/> 
>>> <http://on-rev.com/ <http://on-rev.com/>>, and use quite a few .lc scripts, 
>>> calling them from iframes in web pages hosted on the new host.
>>> 
>>> Our radio programs' mp3 files are stored on the new host. I want one of my 
>>> scripts on on-rev.com <http://on-rev.com/> <http://on-rev.com/ 
>>> <http://on-rev.com/>> to get the directory listing of the mp3 files on the 
>>> new host. The ftp command from LC tutorials works fine from LC desktop 
>>> (Community edition, Mac) to get the filelist:
>>> put url "ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
>>> <ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/> <ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/ 
>>> <ftp://user:p...@domain.com/folder/>>" into myVariable
>>> 
>>> Put when I call it from the server .lc script on on-rev, the result is:
>>> error Failed to connect to gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> 
>>> <http://gmoserver.jp/ <http://gmoserver.jp/>> port 21: Connection refused
>>> 
>>> (gmoserver.jp <http://gmoserver.jp/> <http://gmoserver.jp/ 
>>> <http://gmoserver.jp/>> is our new host here in Japan.)
>>> 
>>> Any ideas why the connection would be refused when coming from on-rev, but 
>>> not LC desktop? Anyways around this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Tim Selander
>>> Tokyo, Japan
>>> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Thanks for adjusting/modifying the default handler list. Looks so much better 
now.

Matthias

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> Am 18.07.2017 um 18:30 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2.
> 
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ 
>  or via
> the automatic updater.
> 
> 
> Release Contents
> 
> 
> LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2 contains 14 bugfixes and improvements. Since the last
> stable version (8.1.5), more than 40 bugs have been fixed.
> 
> After taking community feedback into consideration we have made the
> following improvements to the default handlers feature (added in LiveCode
> 8.1.6 RC-1):
> 
> Default Handlers: Make text of default handlers grey to emphasise they do
> not yet exist
> Default Handlers: Increase space between default handlers and extant ones
> Default Handlers: If default handler name begins with P, ensure its first
> char is not removed
> Default Handlers: Add SE preference
> Default Handlers: Ensure the params of a default handler are not LC
> reserved words
> 
> Moreover, we have added 2 new interactive tutorials. You can access them
> from the Start Center.
> 
> The full release notes are available from:
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_6/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_6_rc_2.pdf 
> 
> 
> 
> Feedback
> 
> Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
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a picture is shown in a player object instead of a movie when using a streaming url

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,
i am trying to stream the URL
https://zdf1314-lh.akamaihd.net/i/de14_v1@392878/master.m3u8 

in an player object.

I´ve set the filename of the player object to the streaming url, but the video 
is not played, but only a still image is shown.
If i press the play control again i see a new image, but the video is still not 
played.

Am i missing something?
I am on Mac OS X 10.12.5 with LC 8.1.6RC2 and LC 9DP6 

Regards,
Matthias 

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Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

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Hi, 
i am sorry for the confusion. 
I thought it was only for Excel library license owners.

Good to know that it is open source now.


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> Am 20.07.2017 um 17:21 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Thanks Mike . I didn't look in Open Source as I thought it was for people who 
> had purchased the ExcelLIB product. DOH. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
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Re: glx2 script editor

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

I  am seeing this under Mac OS X 10.12.5 and LC 8.1.5, 8.1.6RC2 and LC9 DP8.


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> Am 25.07.2017 um 18:05 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> On 07/25/2017 07:30 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>> thanks.
>> Works so far if i open an already existing stack.
>> But when i try to create a new stack using the LC menu while GLX2 is enabled 
>> then nothing happens.
>> I have to disable GLX to create a new stack using the menu “New Stack".
> 
> OK - that's behavior I haven't seen before.
> Is this on Windows?
> I don't see that problem on OSX or linux.
> 
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Re: glx2 script editor

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hm,
i can reproduce it here. Every time GLX is enabled, i cannot create a new stack 
using  the LC menu.

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> Am 25.07.2017 um 20:32 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> On 07/25/2017 10:31 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> I  am seeing this under Mac OS X 10.12.5 and LC 8.1.5, 8.1.6RC2 and LC9 DP8.
> 
> Interesting. No problems here with OSX 10.11.6.
> LC9dp8 and LC8.1.6rc3.
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Re: HTML5 limitations?

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And direct db access is also not possible. For that you´ll need some kind of  a 
“db gateway” which can be done with lc server or php.

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> Am 25.07.2017 um 21:00 schrieb Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Well, the sandbox is a huge issue. JavaScript is not allowed to access many 
> things that LC can access in the user's system.
> 
> The sandbox protects against malicious pages.
> 
> It is very hard to simulate the mouseStillDown handler in HTML/JS.
> 
> My app is a hybrid of LC and html5. The pace of development for LC is easily 
> 10 times faster for me.
> 
> LC text processing and array management is much much more flexible.
> 
> "Get the keys of myArray" beats enumerating through a JS array any day. 
> 
> JS does not have true associative arrays, although you can work around that 
> with datamaps.
> 
> JS does not have programmatic access to the clipboard.
> 
> Most of the limitations are related to security issues. If the sandbox is not 
> an issue, then html5 will probably work, but they should expect to spend a 
> fortune and live with a long development cycle with painfully slow bug fixes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 2:42 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> I have a client that wants to move our project to HTML5. I have some doubts 
>> about the capabilities, could someone tell me what is currently possible and 
>> what is not?
>> 
>> This is a very large set of stacks, run by a standalone that loads content 
>> on demand from a server. It is image-heavy and interacts with a networked 
>> database. There is lots of navigation between stacks and many hundreds of 
>> cards. At any given time, there can be up to a dozen stacks held in RAM. 
>> There is also heavy use of visual effects and animation.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com 
>> 
>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com 
>> 
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Re: glx2 script editor

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

I will test with only GLX as plugin. If that is working, then i will add the 
other plugins one after the other to see what might be causing it.
I will then file an issue.

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> Am 25.07.2017 um 22:41 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> On 07/25/2017 12:24 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hm,
>> i can reproduce it here. Every time GLX is enabled, i cannot create a new 
>> stack using  the LC menu.
> 
> Well, file an issue on the bitbucket site, I guess.
> I can't replicate the problem here at all on OSX.
> I have no other third-party plugins installed - could this possibly be an 
> interaction between the script editor and something else?
> 
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Re: glx2 script editor

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

i haven´t used GLX2 for  a long time. Your post made me to use it again.

I tried it now with LC8.1.5, 8.1.6RC2 and 9 DP8. In all cases i see the GLX bar 
under the LC menubar, but i get it not to work that the GLX script editor opens.
What i noticed so far is, even if i click on the right GLX  to enable/disable 
the editor, the prefs file is not created in the plugins folder.

Am i missing something?

Regards,

Matthias


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> Am 24.07.2017 um 20:44 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> ...and I realize now that I haven't updated the repository for a while, so I 
> just posted the latest build to:
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Amazon S3 lib for Android and iOS?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Klaus,
i just checked the inclusions in standalone application builder in LC9 DP8 
again. 
There is an entry for mergAWS and also an other entry for “Amazon Web Services” 
right after Remote Debugger.
In LC 8.1.6 this is not listed.
So it seems there is now support for AWS in DP8 for all platforms.


Matthias


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> Am 26.07.2017 um 17:27 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Ah, then it seems to be an error that it is listed for the other platforms 
> under inclusions.
> 
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>> Am 26.07.2017 um 17:19 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>> 
>> Hi Matthias and Todd,
>> 
>>> Am 26.07.2017 um 17:04 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> In LC 9DP8 Business in Standalone Application Settings under Inclusions  
>>> Amazon WebServices is listed for Mac,Win,Linux,iOS and Android.
>>> And in the folder Toolset there is a file aws.livecode
>>> 
>>> But i cannot find an entry for it in the dictionary.
>> 
>> ther MERGEXT externals collection (included in LC) support this, but is Mac 
>> and iOS only.
>> Check the dictionary for "aws..."
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Matthias
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> Am 26.07.2017 um 16:34 schrieb Todd Fabacher via use-livecode 
>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>>:
>>>> 
>>>> Do you know if there is an Amazon S3 lib for Android and iOS for LiveCode?
>>>> We need OAuth and to access audio files to stream them. We are aware
>>>> of mergAWS but it is ONLY for iOS. Is there an Android solution or anything
>>>> with the new LCB platform???
>>>> 
>>>> --Todd
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
>> 
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Re: Amazon S3 lib for Android and iOS?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Ah, then it seems to be an error that it is listed for the other platforms 
under inclusions.

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> Am 26.07.2017 um 17:19 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Hi Matthias and Todd,
> 
>> Am 26.07.2017 um 17:04 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> In LC 9DP8 Business in Standalone Application Settings under Inclusions  
>> Amazon WebServices is listed for Mac,Win,Linux,iOS and Android.
>> And in the folder Toolset there is a file aws.livecode
>> 
>> But i cannot find an entry for it in the dictionary.
> 
> ther MERGEXT externals collection (included in LC) support this, but is Mac 
> and iOS only.
> Check the dictionary for "aws..."
> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
>> 
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>> 
>>> Am 26.07.2017 um 16:34 schrieb Todd Fabacher via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> Do you know if there is an Amazon S3 lib for Android and iOS for LiveCode?
>>> We need OAuth and to access audio files to stream them. We are aware
>>> of mergAWS but it is ONLY for iOS. Is there an Android solution or anything
>>> with the new LCB platform???
>>> 
>>> --Todd
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
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Re: Amazon S3 lib for Android and iOS?

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In LC 9DP8 Business in Standalone Application Settings under Inclusions  Amazon 
WebServices is listed for Mac,Win,Linux,iOS and Android.
And in the folder Toolset there is a file aws.livecode

But i cannot find an entry for it in the dictionary.

Regards,
Matthias

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> Am 26.07.2017 um 16:34 schrieb Todd Fabacher via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Do you know if there is an Amazon S3 lib for Android and iOS for LiveCode?
> We need OAuth and to access audio files to stream them. We are aware
> of mergAWS but it is ONLY for iOS. Is there an Android solution or anything
> with the new LCB platform???
> 
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Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

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I am sorry, but my French is not so good. Google translate gave me the 
following translation to English:

* Everyone to his taste but this, o, ent it is not a choice!
I would like a digestive.

But still wondering what you wanted to say.
(The German translation was even more confusing)




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> Am 19.07.2017 um 12:54 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> *Chacun à son gôut mais à ce ,o,ent c'est pas un choix!
> 
> Je voudrais un digestif.
> 
> Richmond.
> *
> On 7/19/17 1:17 pm, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>> Me too. Especially when my desktop is once again messy. And that happens 
>> quite often.
>> 
>> The backdrop function in LC even made me write a little tool which does 
>> something similar and layers over the whole desktop to hide the mess. Very 
>> useful when i demonstrate something to others on my computer.
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
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>>> Am 19.07.2017 um 11:10 schrieb Roger Eller via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> Personally, I have always liked, and often used a light gray backdrop to
>>> minimize distractions from the OS.  It makes LiveCode feel more like a
>>> unified environment.
>>> 
>>> ~Roger
>>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2017 4:55 AM, "Mark Waddingham via use-livecode" <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2017-07-19 08:56, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Even that is a "load of old Bollo"; I'm sure that a lot of people
>>>>> trying out LiveCode for the first time
>>>>> are going to go "gae quair" when they see their desktop vanish.
>>>>> 
>>>> Possibly - but until you test such a thing, a statement either way is just
>>>> conjecture... Hence why we are testing it!
>>>> 
>>>> Admittedly, this was perhaps a slightly riskier test then something like
>>>> the handler menu; although had it actually *only* affected people who were
>>>> still in 'first run' mode... No-one on this list would have probably
>>>> noticed, thus it would not have occasioned any comment.
>>>> 
>>>> There will be an RC-3 which fixes that problem at least - whether or not
>>>> the auto-backdrop will be kept (in first run mode) will be largely down to
>>>> what the analysis of results of the testing say.
>>>> 
>>>> Warmest Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Mark.
>>>> 
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>>>> <mailto:m...@livecode.com><mailto:m...@livecode.com 
>>>> <mailto:m...@livecode.com>> ~ http://www.livecode.com/ 
>>>> <http://www.livecode.com/><http://www.livecode.com/ 
>>>> <http://www.livecode.com/>>
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Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Forgot a setence.

Maybe he is willing to share it.

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> Am 19.07.2017 um 22:18 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Zryip created a little intellisense plugin some years ago. 
> 
> http://www.aslugontheroad.com/in-progress/9-intellisense-plugin 
> <http://www.aslugontheroad.com/in-progress/9-intellisense-plugin><http://www.aslugontheroad.com/in-progress/9-intellisense-plugin
>  <http://www.aslugontheroad.com/in-progress/9-intellisense-plugin>>
> 
> It´s free for users of the Excel Library.
> 
> Matthias
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>> Am 19.07.2017 um 22:10 schrieb Todd Fabacher via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com><mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>> 
>> One of the single largest problems we face is resistance to LiveCode in the
>> corporate is developers. One, they are not eager to learn a new language.
>> But once I show them LiveCode, they see the simple ease and simplicity and
>> become open to the prospect. I even explain it as a way of prototyping
>> their logic in an English format.
>> 
>> But once they start coding, they outright reject it because of the complete
>> lack of IntelliSense. These people will NOT BUDGE. There is no way we are
>> going to convince them that they will have to remember the properties and
>> function names.
>> 
>> I saw in Kevin's demo of the latest version which showed that there was
>> FINALLY a list of events to choose from. This should have been there years
>> ago. You just need to look at LiveCode's competition to see progress. Xojo
>> is one example. We needed to create a RasPi app as a test, so we purchased
>> a license, and it's IDE was quite good. MUCH better than LiveCode. We also
>> use Visual Studio, which has fantastic IntelliSense.
>> 
>> Here is what they are looking for:
>> 
>> 1. Function completion. As you type it starts to match a function name, all
>> the functions so up in a list to choose from as I type.
>> 
>> 2. Function parameters. once I type a function, I can mouse over it and all
>> the parameters and a quick explanation show up.
>> 
>> 3. I understand that properties are going to be a problem because LiveCode
>> is NOT in an algebraic format like Object.Property = value. So setting the
>> properties first is an issue. How about we put in a placeholder like:
>> 
>> set the ? from field "test"
>> set the ? from widget "map"
>> 
>> Then...as soon as I put in the object type or object name for a widget, I
>> would get a pop-up with a list of properties to select from.
>> 
>> 
>> These functionalities may not be easy, but should not be difficult. Maybe
>> an IntelliSense extension, done by the community can be done? It is a major
>> barrier to entry for experienced developers to switch to. This is the #1
>> reason we can not get coders in companies to agree to LiveCode. #2 was Git,
>> but that seems to be solved with community involvement from Trevor.
>> 
>> Just an idea,
>> 
>> Todd Fabacher
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Re: Bug 20117: new rc2 sets a backdrop, and preferences for same

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Me too. Especially when my desktop is once again messy. And that happens quite 
often.

The backdrop function in LC even made me write a little tool which does 
something similar and layers over the whole desktop to hide the mess. Very 
useful when i demonstrate something to others on my computer. 

Matthias


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> Am 19.07.2017 um 11:10 schrieb Roger Eller via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Personally, I have always liked, and often used a light gray backdrop to
> minimize distractions from the OS.  It makes LiveCode feel more like a
> unified environment.
> 
> ~Roger
> 
> On Jul 19, 2017 4:55 AM, "Mark Waddingham via use-livecode" <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-07-19 08:56, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>>> Even that is a "load of old Bollo"; I'm sure that a lot of people
>>> trying out LiveCode for the first time
>>> are going to go "gae quair" when they see their desktop vanish.
>>> 
>> 
>> Possibly - but until you test such a thing, a statement either way is just
>> conjecture... Hence why we are testing it!
>> 
>> Admittedly, this was perhaps a slightly riskier test then something like
>> the handler menu; although had it actually *only* affected people who were
>> still in 'first run' mode... No-one on this list would have probably
>> noticed, thus it would not have occasioned any comment.
>> 
>> There will be an RC-3 which fixes that problem at least - whether or not
>> the auto-backdrop will be kept (in first run mode) will be largely down to
>> what the analysis of results of the testing say.
>> 
>> Warmest Regards,
>> 
>> Mark.
>> 
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Re: IntelliSense - Intelligent code completion for LiveCode

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Zryip created a little intellisense plugin some years ago. 

http://www.aslugontheroad.com/in-progress/9-intellisense-plugin 


It´s free for users of the Excel Library.

Matthias

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> Am 19.07.2017 um 22:10 schrieb Todd Fabacher via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> One of the single largest problems we face is resistance to LiveCode in the
> corporate is developers. One, they are not eager to learn a new language.
> But once I show them LiveCode, they see the simple ease and simplicity and
> become open to the prospect. I even explain it as a way of prototyping
> their logic in an English format.
> 
> But once they start coding, they outright reject it because of the complete
> lack of IntelliSense. These people will NOT BUDGE. There is no way we are
> going to convince them that they will have to remember the properties and
> function names.
> 
> I saw in Kevin's demo of the latest version which showed that there was
> FINALLY a list of events to choose from. This should have been there years
> ago. You just need to look at LiveCode's competition to see progress. Xojo
> is one example. We needed to create a RasPi app as a test, so we purchased
> a license, and it's IDE was quite good. MUCH better than LiveCode. We also
> use Visual Studio, which has fantastic IntelliSense.
> 
> Here is what they are looking for:
> 
> 1. Function completion. As you type it starts to match a function name, all
> the functions so up in a list to choose from as I type.
> 
> 2. Function parameters. once I type a function, I can mouse over it and all
> the parameters and a quick explanation show up.
> 
> 3. I understand that properties are going to be a problem because LiveCode
> is NOT in an algebraic format like Object.Property = value. So setting the
> properties first is an issue. How about we put in a placeholder like:
> 
> set the ? from field "test"
> set the ? from widget "map"
> 
> Then...as soon as I put in the object type or object name for a widget, I
> would get a pop-up with a list of properties to select from.
> 
> 
> These functionalities may not be easy, but should not be difficult. Maybe
> an IntelliSense extension, done by the community can be done? It is a major
> barrier to entry for experienced developers to switch to. This is the #1
> reason we can not get coders in companies to agree to LiveCode. #2 was Git,
> but that seems to be solved with community involvement from Trevor.
> 
> Just an idea,
> 
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Re: Another Browser Widget Question

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I´ve just filed a bug report about the problem that links that should open in a 
separate tab are not opened in Browserwidget

Bug 20200 



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> Am 28.07.2017 um 20:22 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> On 2017-07-28 20:18, Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode wrote:
>> I don’t see any other messages in the dictionary that look applicable.
>> If one of these was expected to work, then I’ll file the bug report.
> 
> Please do file a report - they are the only messages it sends, so if you get 
> none of them then there is a 'hole' here.
> 
> I'm in a different timezone to the UK at the moment so can't just harangue 
> Ian (who has done most of the work on the browser widget) to ask - so at 
> least if there's a report, I won't forget about it by Monday :)
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
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Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

The script just contains  the normal url, but my email added this 2nd one with 
the brackets.

I am on Mac OS X.


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> Am 30.07.2017 um 00:57 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Other than the invalid form of the url, its working for me here (in the
> ide, windows 10, 9.0 dp7)  I end up with a blank browser because it doesn't
> know how to handle the <http://www.livecode.com/ <http://www.livecode.com/>> 
> part of the url, removing
> that correctly brings up the livecode site.  Sounds like something in the
> external itself is breaking. Still, if you're on a different os or version
> of livecode, I'd start by just using "http;//www.livecode.com 
> <http://www.livecode.com/>" as a check
> to eliminate it as a possible issue.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> i get the error
>> 
>> stack "Untitled 1": execution error at line n/a (External handler
>> execution error: creation failed) near "creation failed"
>> 
>> when executing the following script in ide
>> 
>>   local tBrowserId
>>   put revBrowserOpenCEF(the windowId of this stack, "
>> http://www.livecode.com <http://www.livecode.com/> <http://www.livecode.com/ 
>> <http://www.livecode.com/>>" ) into tBrowserId
>>   if tBrowserId is not an integer then
>>  answer "Failed to open browser"
>>   end if
>>   revBrowserSet tBrowserID, "rect" , the rect of graphic "rectangle"
>> 
>> Tried in LC 8.1.5 and LC 9 DP8.
>> 
>> I cannot see an error in the script, if i use revBrowserOpen instead of
>> revBrowserOpenCeF then it works.
>> 
>> Am i missing something?
>> 
>> Regards
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
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how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,

let´s say a card has a custom property name cMyProp.

The variable tMyVar contains the word “cMyProp”

How do i get the value of the custom property using the variable tMyVar?

Regards,
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Re: Hackintosh

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I also thought about creating a Hackintosh for my workplace to spent money. 
After i read many many instructions and forum posts at that time i decided to 
by a Mac.
Why?
Because i wanted to start working right away and did not want to spent to much 
time on building, fiddling and so on.
And i wanted a system which i could update right away if an important update 
was available instead of reading again forums and waiting until a working 
solution was available.

And if i count the time i used just for my initial investigations how to build 
it and if a Hackintosh suits me…

Regards,

Matthias

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> Am 02.08.2017 um 18:45 schrieb Roger Eller via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Also of interest, MacWorld article (yes, MacWorld) tells users how to build
> a Hackintosh.  Although the author whines a little about it being involving
> some work.
> 
> http://www.macworld.com/article/3196994/macs/how-to-build-a-hackintosh.html 
> 
> 
> Someday, I believe Apple will come around and offer Genuine OS X to select
> models of PC hardware.  But that's just my own hopeful idea.  For now, it
> is only for fun, and should not be considered for any type of business.  If
> your business can't afford a computer, then close the doors.
> 
> ~Roger
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> We have a great community, having earned a reputation for providing a
>> safe, friendly environment for learning LiveCode.
>> 
>> With that in mind, please remember that Apple's EULA for macOS requires
>> that it be run only on "Apple-branded computers".
>> 
>> Discussions of using VMs on Mac hosts is great, useful for testing our
>> apps on multiple OS versions.
>> 
>> But we probably don't want to have discussions of violating Apple's
>> copyright as part of this community's permanent public archive.
>> 
>> There are other venues where such discussion can take place.  Here in this
>> official LiveCode support venue, it may be better to follow the guidelines
>> used for the Forums, in which we avoid discussions which may be construed
>> as encouraging illegal activity.
>> 
>> Forum Guidelines
>> 
>> 
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Re: how to get the value of a custom property if the name of the cProperty is in a variable?

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Thanks Klaus

Tried your  suggestion already before posting, but that did not work. Therefore 
I thought i have to use value or so.

But i just had a “little” error in my script. I should check my code twice 
before asking.

Thanks again.

Matthias





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> Am 02.08.2017 um 19:25 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> 
>> Am 02.08.2017 um 19:20 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> let´s say a card has a custom property name cMyProp.
>> The variable tMyVar contains the word “cMyProp”
>> How do i get the value of the custom property using the variable tMyVar?
> 
> ...
> answer the tMyVar of this cd
> ...
> :-)
> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
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Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

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> Am 16.08.2017 um 20:27 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Mike Kerner wrote:
> 
> > I disagree with Ben on the effort of rolling your own.  The first one
> > is probably some work, until you understand how push works, but after
> > you understand, it is pretty easy.
> 
> I don't mind learning new things, and I often prefer the control I get with 
> my own private systems.
> 
> What resources would you recommend for learning more about setting up a 
> notification server?

It would be great to have  a Livecode Server solution.


Maybe this would be also a good topic for the LC Global conference?

Matthias

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Re: htaccess rewrite rule to https let my apps stop working

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Hi Tiemo,
although i was pretty sure that this works here i´ve checked again.
From the message box i called an .lc script  which exports db data. I used 
http:// as prefix and the data was returned w/o a problem.

Calling the same url from browser works the same. It isautomatically redirected 
by the server and the data is returned.

We are calling lc and php scripts on our server from our programs to fetch data 
and all is working.

Btw.: Maybe this is of interest for the one or the other.
Today we´ve created the first Rapidweaver page which uses a livecode server 
script for form processing and db access directly in a stack instead of showing 
that lc script in a frame. I´ve never have thought that this will work. It´s 
very simple to integrate.




> Am 18.08.2017 um 15:28 schrieb Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> 
> Hi Matthias,
> Thanks for your example, I'll give it a try
> using these Rewrite rules, you could stay with plain http:// URLs in your LC 
> code? And LC doesn't notice the difference and everything works as before? Do 
> you call PHPs on your server? Could there be a difference between html and 
> php calls with return values?
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag 
> von Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. August 2017 14:42
> An: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> Cc: Matthias Rebbe <matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de>
> Betreff: Re: htaccess rewrite rule to https let my apps stop working
> 
> Hi Tiemo,
> 
> it´s messed up.
> Please use the link
> https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt 
> <https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt>
> to download the textfile.
> 
> I´ve forgot to mention that you have to replace yourdomain.com 
> <http://yourdomain.com/> with your domain.
> 
> Matthias
>> Am 18.08.2017 um 14:25 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi Tiemo,
>> 
>> we are using the following code in the htaccess to redirect  http:// 
>> request (either with or without www) to https://www.multitronic.de 
>> <https://www.multitronic.de/> <https://www.multitronic.de/ 
>> <https://www.multitronic.de/>>
>> 
>> RewriteEngine on
>> RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off
>> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yourdomain.com <http://yourdomain.com/> 
>> <http://yourdomain.com/ <http://yourdomain.com/>>$ [NC,OR] RewriteCond 
>> %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.yourdomain.com <http://www.yourdomain.com/> 
>> <http://www.yourdomain.com/ <http://www.yourdomain.com/>>$ [NC] 
>> RewriteRule (.*) https://www.yourdomain.com/$1 
>> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1 
>> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1>> [R=301,L] RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} 
>> ^yourdomain.com <http://yourdomain.com/> <http://yourdomain.com/ 
>> <http://yourdomain.com/>>$ [NC] RewriteRule (.*) 
>> https://www.yourdomain.com/$1 <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1> 
>> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1 <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1>> 
>> [R=301,L]
>> 
>> 
>> if the sample code is mixed up then you´ll find it also here as text 
>> file for download
>> 
>> https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt 
>> <https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt> 
>> <https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt 
>> <https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt>>
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> Matthias
>> 
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Re: htaccess rewrite rule to https let my apps stop working

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Tiemo,

we are using the following code in the htaccess to redirect  http:// request 
(either with or without www) to https://www.multitronic.de 


RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yourdomain.com $ [NC,OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.yourdomain.com $ [NC]
RewriteRule (.*) https://www.yourdomain.com/$1  
[R=301,L]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yourdomain.com $ [NC]
RewriteRule (.*) https://www.yourdomain.com/$1  
[R=301,L]


if the sample code is mixed up then you´ll find it also here as text file for 
download

https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt 



HTH
Matthias


> Am 18.08.2017 um 13:58 schrieb Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I attached a certificate to our domain and started switching our domain /
> web from http to https, because of the security alerts of some browsers
> saying that our site isn't safe. So far so good. Our web hoster recommended
> to put a rewrite rule into the htaccess to redirect all http calls on https.
> So far so good. That works fine with all URLs in a browser.
> 
> BUT all of my LiveCode programs with http:// calls for php programs on my
> server don't work anymore. I get different errors.
> 
> I am not good with what is happening behind the scenes of htaccess rewrite
> rules and have no idea if and what I could do, beside of changing all http
> calls in my LC programs to https. My thinking was, that the rewrite rule
> would just switch each http call to https on the server, but keeps finding
> all html and php files. That works obviously fine with all URLs in a
> browser. But why doesn't my LC program likes that rewriting? The PHP
> programs should be found the same with https and should return the wanted
> value as with http - or not? How is LiveCode affected by this rewrite?
> 
> I can't just change all URLs in all my LC programs from http to https,
> because my customers have lots of old version of my programs out there,
> which are not anymore maintained, which were created with any very old LC
> version I don't know anymore, etc.
> 
> Any light on what is going wrong to my LC URL calls and if there is anything
> I can do is highly appreciated.
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: htaccess rewrite rule to https let my apps stop working

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Tiemo,

it´s messed up.
Please use the link
https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt 
<https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt>
to download the textfile.

I´ve forgot to mention that you have to replace yourdomain.com 
<http://yourdomain.com/> with your domain.

Matthias
> Am 18.08.2017 um 14:25 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Hi Tiemo,
> 
> we are using the following code in the htaccess to redirect  http:// request 
> (either with or without www) to https://www.multitronic.de 
> <https://www.multitronic.de/> <https://www.multitronic.de/ 
> <https://www.multitronic.de/>>
> 
> RewriteEngine on
> RewriteCond %{HTTPS} off
> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yourdomain.com <http://yourdomain.com/> 
> <http://yourdomain.com/ <http://yourdomain.com/>>$ [NC,OR]
> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.yourdomain.com <http://www.yourdomain.com/> 
> <http://www.yourdomain.com/ <http://www.yourdomain.com/>>$ [NC]
> RewriteRule (.*) https://www.yourdomain.com/$1 
> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1 
> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1>> [R=301,L]
> RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yourdomain.com <http://yourdomain.com/> 
> <http://yourdomain.com/ <http://yourdomain.com/>>$ [NC]
> RewriteRule (.*) https://www.yourdomain.com/$1 
> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1 
> <https://www.yourdomain.com/$1>> [R=301,L]
> 
> 
> if the sample code is mixed up then you´ll find it also here as text file for 
> download
> 
> https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt 
> <https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt> 
> <https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt 
> <https://dl.qck.nu//?dl=sample_htaccess.txt>>
> 
> 
> HTH
> Matthias
> 

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Re: put url tricks to copy files on windows

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

to write to a file, even if it is copied, it has to be opened first.

Did you try to remove the 2 slashes in the to path also?


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> Am 21.06.2017 um 14:31 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> also what is confusing is when I removed the // from the FROM file but left
> it in for the TO file, I get the same error, "can't open file", which to me
> implies that the file that exists can't be read, not that the TO path is
> wrong.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
> 
>> Without meaning to add more confusion, a Windows UNC path from a server to
>> a file does work with the form
>> "binfile://servername/folder/folder/filename.txt 
>> ", while local access (or
>> mapped drives) are like "binfile:C:/folder/folder/filename.txt".
>> 
>> ~Roger
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2017 2:07 AM, "Mark Waddingham via use-livecode" <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
>> 
>>> As others have pointed out, for binfile and file urls you shouldn't
>>> include the standard '//' in front of the (absolute) path. These are not
>>> parsed by the engine as standard urls - everything after the : is parsed
>> as
>>> the filename.
>>> 
>>> On an unrelated not you don't need to twiddle with the defaultfolder as
>>> files() and folders() now take an optional argument for the path :)
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 21 Jun 2017, at 03:37, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
 
> On 06/20/2017 07:19 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
> I'm not on a mac a lot :-(
> So is "binfile:" more universal, or do I have to check the platform,
> first?  What is the technique on linux?
 
 As far as I can remember, the "//" has never been recommended or
>>> approved for file or binfile. I'm surprised it gets parsed properly for
>>> OSX. You don't need or want it.
 
 --
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Re: put url tricks to copy files on windows

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Mike,

please remove the // from your code and it should work.
And of course make sure that you have write permission to the folder you are 
writing to.

Regards,
Matthias


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> Am 20.06.2017 um 23:34 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> I'm trying to use the put url technique to copy files on windows, but I'm
> getting "can't open file"
> If I do something like
> answer line 1 of url ("binfile://")
> I get what I expect, but when I try to
> put url ("binfile://") into url ("binfile://")
> I get "can't open file" in the result
> 
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> On the second day, God created the oceans.
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>   and did a little diving.
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Re: put url tricks to copy files on windows

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

I don´t want to sound like a know-it-all, but revcopyfile also uses just the 
shell to copy the files:

replace "\" with "/" in pDestFile
replace "\" with "/" in pSrcFile
  
if there is a directory pDestFile then
set the itemDel to "/"
if char -1 of pDestFile is "/" then
delete char -1 of pDestFile
end if
   
local tDestFileName
put item -1 of pSrcFile into tDestFileName
set the itemDel to comma
put "/" & tDestFileName after pDestFile
end if
get shell ("copy" && revWindowsFromUnixPath(quote) && 
revWindowsFromUnixPath(quote))


Matthias

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> Am 21.06.2017 um 15:57 schrieb Roger Eller via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> You could also try the revCopyFile and revCopyFolder commands.  I normally
> only use the URL syntax to save new data I've created in a variable to a
> file.  When copying existing files/folders I either use "get shell" to call
> native commands, or the built-in revCopyFile.
> 
> ~Roger
> 
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Let me be clearer.  I think the message could be better (or perhaps the
>> dictionary could list the error messages and explain them), because even
>> though we use the "open" command in LC to read from a file or create a
>> file, the lack of the need for a "create file" command in LCS doesn't
>> remove that thing in my intuition that says "well, the only file that needs
>> to be opened is the one that exists, already, so the problem must be on
>> that side".
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> to write to a file, even if it is copied, it has to be opened first.
>>> 
>>> Did you try to remove the 2 slashes in the to path also?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> +49 5741 31
>>> ‌matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>>‌
>>> 
>>>> Am 21.06.2017 um 14:31 schrieb Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>>> 
>>>> also what is confusing is when I removed the // from the FROM file but
>>> left
>>>> it in for the TO file, I get the same error, "can't open file", which
>> to
>>> me
>>>> implies that the file that exists can't be read, not that the TO path
>> is
>>>> wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Without meaning to add more confusion, a Windows UNC path from a
>> server
>>> to
>>>>> a file does work with the form
>>>>> "binfile://servername/folder/folder/filename.txt 
>>>>> 
>>> >> >", while local access
>> (or
>>>>> mapped drives) are like "binfile:C:/folder/folder/filename.txt".
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~Roger
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 21, 2017 2:07 AM, "Mark Waddingham via use-livecode" <
>>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> As others have pointed out, for binfile and file urls you shouldn't
>>>>>> include the standard '//' in front of the (absolute) path. These are
>>> not
>>>>>> parsed by the engine as standard urls - everything after the : is
>>> parsed
>>>>> as
>>>>>> the filename.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On an unrelated not you don't need to twiddle with the defaultfolder
>> as
>>>>>> files() and fo

Re: ListMagic still available?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Eric Chatonet, the author of ListMagic, passed away in January 2009. Jim 
Bufalini, a business partner of Eric, if i remember right, sold and supported 
the product for some time to support Eric´s family.

But i am afraid it is not sold anymore. The last post of Jim Bufalini to this 
list was 2010.

Matthias


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> Am 24.06.2017 um 00:43 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> I hesitate to ask but, I found a demo of ListMagic I'd like to use but it 
> won't run and I'd like to purchase it. Is it still available? It was 
> published by SoSmartSoftware, but that web site no longer exists. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
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Re: which port is beeing used with get URL?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Timo,

a firewall setting also might cause this. Many security tools have a app 
control included which controls the network access of applications. It could be 
that the LC app is not allowed to do any networking.  Can you check with the  
customer which Antivirus/Firewall software is used?

Matthias


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> Am 19.05.2017 um 10:40 schrieb Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> LC6 and 8. Again and again I have customers, where my program doesn't gets
> an internet connection with standard "put URL foo into res". This happens
> only at "institutional customers" with "bigger" networks, obviously with
> proxy servers, firewalls, etc. On "private" PCs I never happen this. The
> user can setup the proxy credentials in my program, that is ok for some
> customers. At other customers my program still doesn't gets access to the
> internet and often the admin of the customer doesn't find the reason what is
> blocking my program. Usually most firewalls pop up with a request, if they
> are blocking a new program, but in these cases the firewalls keep silent, so
> it is hard to find the reason.
> 
> 
> 
> Am I right, that using "put URL" is a standard http:// protocol via port
> 8080? Or is there a special port being used by LC?
> 
> 
> 
> Are there any ideas from your experience, what and how to check for to find
> the blocking factor in a customer network?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for your experiences
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
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Re: Uploading Image - Livecode Tutorial Example? Sessions?

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Mike,

i have successfully intalled LC 9 DP6 on Tio Server using the .htaccess method.

This is the content of my .htaccess

Directory index index.lc

Options -Indexes
Options ExecCGI

AddHandler livecode-script .rev .lc9 .lc
Action livecode-script /cgi-bin/livecode-server-9_0_0_dp_6


Please note that you need to add this to each .htaccess file for each 
domain/domain folder.

So if you use public_html for your main domain, e.g. mike.on-rev.com 
,  and for an additional addon  domain, e.g. 
mikebonner.com , a separate folder, e.g. 
/public_html/mikebonner

then you need to place the .htaccess file and the lcserver binaries into 
public_html and also into the "2nd domain” folder /public_html/mikebonner.

So if you have 50 addon domains and each  in its own folder and you want to use 
your own LC Server binaries for all 50 domains, then you have to copy .htaccess 
and LC Server into
each of the 50 folders.

Please find a screenshot of the permssions i´ve set for each file here:
https://dl.webfactory.onl/permssions_lcserver.png 


HTH,

Matthias


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> Am 26.05.2017 um 18:52 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Theres another issue with on-rev.  Even if you set the sessionSavePath, it
> won't work due to the default version of LC on on-rev.  You need to
> override the version using an .htaccess file, but i've not managed to
> actually get that to work for me.  Looking for the link that tells you how
> to do this. If you actually get it to work please let me know how!
> 
> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/41105-how-do-i-choose-which-livecode-server-engine-to-use-with-on-rev
>  
> 
> 
> Unless they've updated the default version for .lc files, you'll need to
> switch to a more recent version of the server to get sessions to work.
> 
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:15 AM, JOHN PATTEN via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
> 
>> I think I figured out the issue based on an old post by Sturgis…
>> 
>> Apparently you have to set the sessionSavePath before you call the “start
>> session.”
>> 
>> set the sessionSavePath to the defaultfolder
>> 
>> Forum discussion here:
>> 
>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15=10787= 
>> 
>> 50056=session#p50034 > 
>> viewtopic.php?f=15=10787=50056=session#p50034>
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2017, at 8:39 AM, JOHN PATTEN via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for those that answered about the problem I was having with FTP.
>> It was the URLEncode issue that was tripping me up.
>>> 
>>> However, I’m changing gears as I hadn’t realized that I could not ftp
>> directly into a htmlpublic directory on On-Rev. Ultimately I am trying to
>> just create a little iOS app that will allow me upload and image and create
>> a simple html page to display the image.
>>> 
>>> I have been using the LiveCode tutorial here: “How do I use LiveCode
>> graphics features server-side?” (http://lessons.livecode.com/ 
>> 
>> m/15262/l/156710-how-do-i-use-livecode-graphics-features-server-side <
>> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/15262/l/156710-how-do-i-use- 
>> 
>> livecode-graphics-features-server-side>)
>>> 
>>> I can’t get this to work the “start session” included in the script?
>>> 
>>> The example starts:
>>> ---
>>> >> start session
>>> ## enter the image file into our $_SESSION if one's just been uploaded
>>> if $_FILES["imagefile"] is not empty then
>>> put url("binfile:" & $_FILES["imagefile"]["filename"]) into
>> $_SESSION["imagedata"]
>>> end if
>>> if $_SESSION["imagedata"] is empty then
>>> printForm ## no image has been uploaded so display the form to
>> upload one
>>> else
>>> create image “myImage” …
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If I take the “start session” out, the server script works, sort of…as I
>> think it will upload the image, but because there is no session, you can’t
>> manipulate the image.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody got this example to work? I have tried moving the “start
>> session” around to different areas of the server script, but that does not
>> seem to work either.
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> John Patten
>>> SUSD
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Uploading Image - Livecode Tutorial Example? Sessions?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Mike,

i just noticed that my lc server installation on TIO is not working anymore :(

Tio is running LC Version 7.1  and that version always shows an empty $_post 
array when the posted data was formated with libUrlMultipartFormData
I asked support for a server wide upgrade to a version which is able to handle 
that kind of posted data, but w/o success.

So i installed LC DP6 on the 29th April, which is able to handle that kind of 
data,  and it worked w/o problems so far. I am not sure for how long it is not 
working anymore , but im pretty sure it worked at at least until last week.

I really do not know what´s the problem is now, but i am really  peeved. I have 
really no time and no desire to check every day if it is still working. 

I think i have to move that domain also to HostM. Better and quicker support. 
Normal support requests are answered and solved within a few hours. The longest 
time for a reply was about  4 hours, the shortest 30 minutes. Very good ticket 
system, so you can see all previous tickets in your customer account. And and 
and…

Btw, if a customer can proof the purchase of a current commercial LC license 
they install  a version of choice of a commercial license  of LC server account 
wide. No need to install it for every domain / domain folder.

Matthias


> Am 26.05.2017 um 20:12 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Thank you!!
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> i have successfully intalled LC 9 DP6 on Tio Server using the .htaccess
>> method.
>> 
>> This is the content of my .htaccess
>> 
>>Directory index index.lc
>> 
>>Options -Indexes
>>Options ExecCGI
>> 
>>AddHandler livecode-script .rev .lc9 .lc
>>Action livecode-script /cgi-bin/livecode-server-9_0_0_dp_6
>> 
>> 
>> Please note that you need to add this to each .htaccess file for each
>> domain/domain folder.
>> 
>> So if you use public_html for your main domain, e.g. mike.on-rev.com 
>> <http://mike.on-rev.com/> <
>> http://mike.on-rev.com/ <http://mike.on-rev.com/>>,  and for an additional 
>> addon  domain, e.g.
>> mikebonner.com <http://mikebonner.com/> <http://mikebonner.com/ 
>> <http://mikebonner.com/>>, a separate folder, e.g.
>> /public_html/mikebonner
>> 
>> then you need to place the .htaccess file and the lcserver binaries into
>> public_html and also into the "2nd domain” folder /public_html/mikebonner.
>> 
>> So if you have 50 addon domains and each  in its own folder and you want
>> to use your own LC Server binaries for all 50 domains, then you have to
>> copy .htaccess and LC Server into
>> each of the 50 folders.
>> 
>> Please find a screenshot of the permssions i´ve set for each file here:
>> https://dl.webfactory.onl/permssions_lcserver.png 
>> <https://dl.webfactory.onl/permssions_lcserver.png> <
>> https://dl.webfactory.onl/permssions_lcserver.png 
>> <https://dl.webfactory.onl/permssions_lcserver.png>>
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> +49 5741 31
>> ‌matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>>‌
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 26.05.2017 um 18:52 schrieb Mike Bonner via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> Theres another issue with on-rev.  Even if you set the sessionSavePath,
>> it
>>> won't work due to the default version of LC on on-rev.  You need to
>>> override the version using an .htaccess file, but i've not managed to
>>> actually get that to work for me.  Looking for the link that tells you
>> how
>>> to do this. If you actually get it to work please let me know how!
>>> 
>>> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/41105-how-do-i-choose- 
>>> <http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/41105-how-do-i-choose->
>> which-livecode-server-engine-to-use-with-on-rev <
>> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/41105-how-do-i- 
>> <http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/41105-how-do-i->
>> choose-which-livecode-server-engine-to-use-with-on-rev>
>>> 
>>> Unless they've updated the default version f

Re: Writing Extensions

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Thanks for this post. I was already thinking it is just me who struggles with 
LCB.
I tried a bit, gave up and decided to wait for the announced course.

Matthias

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> Am 16.05.2017 um 22:48 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> Having spent a bit of the day experimenting with LCB, I have this to say:
> 
> the documentation is atrocious
> 
> ...also, the only thing I have to say about error reporting in the Extension 
> Builder is that it lets you know there's an error. There's a caret displayed 
> under the error line that misleadingly appears to point to the problem, when 
> actually it's just pointing to the middle of the line. And "Syntax error" 
> isn't a very rewarding message.
> 
> It took me three hours today to figure out how to convert a hex number into 
> decimal format.
> 
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Re: tsNet licensing error using the business version of LC server

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi Ralf,

did you try the tsNet external for Indy, also? 

Btw: How did you install tsNet  external. Where did you place the .so and the 
.livecodescriptfile?

Regards,
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> Am 29.05.2017 um 18:29 schrieb Ralf Bitter via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> LC server yields an error on Ubuntu 16.04 Lts using any
> LC server business version and the associated tsNet version:
> 
> “external: unlicensed (tsNet)”
> 
> This is strange as there is no licensing issue with the Indy version.
> Seems the business license being valid needs to be approved
> somehow, but how do I accomplish this?
> 
> 
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Re: tsNet licensing error using the business version of LC server

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Ralf,

are you sure there are an indy version and a business version of LC server? 
isn´t it just a commercial version?

At least in my account the downloaded lcserver for my indy license seems to be  
the same as the one for my business license.

Anyway, this does not help with your problems. ;)

Regards,

Matthias



> Am 03.06.2017 um 01:06 schrieb Ralf Bitter via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Sure, tested the tsNet Indy version (using LC server Indy) too,
> there is no “external: unlicensed (tsNet)” error.
> 
> Copied the .so file to the externals folder, all .lc files are in
> /var/www/html/.
> 
> 
> Ralf 
> 
> 
>> On 2. Jun 2017, at 23:01, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ralf,
>> 
>> did you try the tsNet external for Indy, also? 
>> 
>> Btw: How did you install tsNet  external. Where did you place the .so and 
>> the .livecodescriptfile?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
>> 
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>> ‌matthiasrebbe.eu <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/ 
>> <http://matthiasrebbe.eu/>>>‌
>> 
>>> Am 29.05.2017 um 18:29 schrieb Ralf Bitter via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
>>> <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>>:
>>> 
>>> LC server yields an error on Ubuntu 16.04 Lts using any
>>> LC server business version and the associated tsNet version:
>>> 
>>> “external: unlicensed (tsNet)”
>>> 
>>> This is strange as there is no licensing issue with the Indy version.
>>> Seems the business license being valid needs to be approved
>>> somehow, but how do I accomplish this?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ralf
> 
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Re: how do you post large files to lc server or php script?

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,

to be more clear:

LC is unresponsive after the beep. It seems the script is finished, but 
something is still running.

And the 2nd line of the script of course only conains  the url once. It seems 
my email client formatted it wrong.

Regards,
Matthias

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> Am 06.06.2017 um 22:37 schrieb Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Hi
> 
> how do you post large files to a php or lc server script?
> 
> I am noticing  problems when doing the libURLMultipartFormData stuff.
> In my case even a  2mb jpeg file causes LC 8.1.2, 8.1.4RC3 and LC 9 DP6 (did 
> not try other versions)  to be very unresponsive right after i called that 
> function.
> For example the following script,, executes until the end. I can hear the 
> beep and i see the formdata in the message box  but it takes
> 30 to 40 seconds and longer until i am able to edit/use the LC editor again. 
> Sometimes LC stays unresponsive until i force quit  and restart it.
> Tried also other file types, not just jpeg.
> 
> 
>   put empty into tFormData
>   put "https://myserver.com/upload.lc <https://myserver.com/upload.lc> 
> <https://myserver.com/upload.lc <https://myserver.com/upload.lc>>" into tUrl
>   put "upload" into tAction
>   put “/Users/matthias/Desktop/Scan.pdf” into myFile
>   put "" & myFile into tFile
> 
>   if  libUrlMultipartFormData(tFormData,"action",tAction,"userfile", tFile) 
> is not empty 
>   then
>  answer it
>  exit to top
>   end if  
>   put tFormData
>  -- set the httpHeaders to line 1 of tFormData
>  --post line 2 to -1 of tFormData to url tUrl 
>  -- put the result  
>   ## check the result, etc., here
>  -- set the httpHeaders to empty
> beep
> 
> 
> Am i missing something? 
> Can i use a tsNet command/function to post to a server script w/o using the 
> libURLmultipartformdata function? Or is there an other way to post larger 
> files?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
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Re: [ANN] a gauge widget

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Bernd,
thanks for that cool widget. What i noticed is that the widget has a general 
icon showing the text widget. Is there a way to add a custom icon? Would be 
much easier to recognise it when several widgets with general icons are 
installed.

Matthias

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> Am 09.06.2017 um 18:13 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> On 06/09/2017 02:43 AM, BNig via use-livecode wrote:
>> further experimenting with Livecode Builder I did a Gauge widget that I
>> posted in the Forum
> 
> That is *very* cool. And thanks - you just saved me a bunch of time. I've 
> been trying to wrap my head around how to make one of these and now I don't 
> have to. Gonna have fun with this today.
> 
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Re: Uploading a file using FTP

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Terry, 
are you using a commercial license of  LC 8 / 9, Indy or business?

If so, you could use tsNet external for your ftp uploader. See here 
 for a sample stack which shows 
how to use tsNet external for uploading using FTP
Unfortunately the number of parameters changed for tsNetUploadSync between the 
tsNet releases. So please check the dictionary of your LC version for that 
function with the script  of the upload button (line 36).

My stack was successfully tested with LC 8.1.4.

Hope this helps.

Matthias

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> Am 17.06.2017 um 09:20 schrieb Terry Vogelaar via use-livecode 
> >:
> 
> I tried to create a FTP uploader in LC, so I followed the instructions on:
> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/6998-uploading-a-file-using-ftp 
> 
> Of course I changed the constants and the FTP domain to the appropriate 
> settings and that is the only thing I changed. But I only get Status Update: 
> error. No indication on what the error might be. 
> 
> How should I figure out what went wrong, without sharing my FTP credentials 
> with the list?
> 
> 
> 
> With kind regards,
> Terry Vogelaar
> 
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