Re: tikiwiki RSS and blogs
Marielle, I regularly have a look at your blogs and forums. My intention was not to create concurrence, only to create a resource targetting a more specialized public. Im honored ;) And concurrence better known as competition in english is actually healthy so i'll be glad if you do - the more we have of runrev out there, the more likely it will be see by others! ;)) You evoked the slahsdot.org model... In fact, the wiki framework I use, tikiwiki let you add such a news+comments system (the module is installed, I disabled it on my wiki as well as the blogs -- more info at: http://tikiwiki.org/, open source, easy to install, easy to manage). Unfortunately, I went the PHPNuke way - it was the right wiki at the time and it's quite powerful. Also easy to manage but not always easy to modify ;) Why not also consider RSS feeds? This would facilitate the rapid exchange of news about revolution on the different websites. True but in this case. I had rss feeds on my website and for those of Metacard list too. But the MC rss never moved and i'd rather have people come to my site for the news IMOHO... cheers Xavier Marielle, Last month, I had a hacker insert half a dozen comments of totally doubtful origin into my story's comments - some 900 comments in total! Not good for my google ranking... I'd suggest you be aware that html PUT or SEND forms can be had for a ride at your expense... But i was bolder, i required no registration for comments - too bad for me... Fixed now... ;) MySQL cleansing was done thanks to RunRev in 5 minutes time thanks also to phpmyadmin... I'd like to share more openly but there always that user-level-agreement thing that is not working ;) cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com/taoo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing a straight line
Yes, well, seems the good folks at RunRev haven't put all the HyperCard goodies in yet. Or there is another bugzilla pilling up dust ;) There's the resizeN2O plugin i wrote that could do this easily with a few tweaks. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=78 But it's unfinished, under-funded and no-one seemed interested. So i put i into the bottom of the pile... I'll put it in the coming week's todos and i might include it in GIM - my new Graphical Interface Manager cheers Xavier On 04.05.2005 06:09:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I have recently been converting some stacks from HyperCard into Revolution. In the process of putting the color back into the stacks, I have found that I need to be drawing straight lines with the pencil tool. However, as for as I know, there is no key that I can hold down such as shift to keep the line going straight, as I can in other drawing apps. Does anyone know of a way to quickly add this functionality to Revolution? Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 2.5 from 2.2????
At 2:14 PM +0100 5/3/05, David Burgun wrote: I've just updated to 2.5 from 2.2 and my .rev files no long open RunRev when double-clicked, instead DreamCard Player starts up. What do I have to do to make it open RunRev instead? I am using MacOS 9. Association of a primary application with a creator signature in Mac OS is...erm...mysterious. In my experience, the best method for dealing with this sort of situation is: 1. Move the application you want to be primary out of its folder and onto the desktop. 2. Close the folder that the application used to be in. 3. Move the application from the desktop back into the folder. This seems to cause the desktop database to update itself in most cases. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
Frank D. Engel, Jr. skrev: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the standalone application message for just one specific stack. * I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does. * I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop. Nope. * I tried saving to my home directory. Still not working. * I tried other stacks, they worked fine. * I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good. * I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard drive. Same problem. Mac OS X 10.3.9 Any clues? I had the same problem earlier on when I had opened a MetaCard stack with resources (answer/ask stacks etc)included. I had to go back to MetaCard, remove the resources before being able to save the stack as a rev stack. Could this be the cause? -- Signe Marie Sanne 1. amanuensis/Senior lecturer Romansk institutt Tlf.+47 55 58 21 27 Øisteins gt. 1 Epost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universitetet i Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/Info/sms.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
Is the Structure of a Stack File published anywhere? Thanks Dave KOPP Ed wrote: I searched the archives, but didn't find the silver bullet I was looking for. I've distributed a standalone stack (Windows) that calls another in the splash screen style. The second stack is my data stack and it's corrupted. It can no longer be opened by my standalone app. When I try to open this data stack directly from Revolution, I get a message There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted; check for ~ backup file. Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? Hwe go seven years with close to zero corruption, and in the last two months I've read about three cases. RunRev -- what's happening? Ed, before you go down the arduous route of rebuilding the stack, you might try seeing if there's some way to delete any images in it first. In most cases corruption is related to images embedded in the stack, and it may be possible to delete those without truly opening it (the engine does less work with a stack when it doesn't actually open it) with something like this (off the top of my head, so maybe it'll need revision): on mouseUp answer file Select the bad stack: if it is empty then exit to top put it into tStackFile -- repeat with i = 1 to the number of cards in stack tStackFile repeat with j = the number of images \ of cd i of stack tStackFile down to 1 delete img 1 of cd i of stack tStackFile end repeat end repeat end mouseUp -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT : PearPC
What about all those hundreds on industrialized Mac's? They have no labels on at all! They are just regular Mac's with the insides put into a sealed steal box with a Giant On/Off switch on the front! I guess you'd have to define what constitues a computer too! I mean I can run Linux on my Tivo which has a PowerPC and it's a Digital Video Recorder not a computer! That would be a good one for the lawyers to fight out! All the Best Dave My Panther license says this: 2.A This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time [...] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 2.5 from 2.2????
At 2:14 PM +0100 5/3/05, David Burgun wrote: I've just updated to 2.5 from 2.2 and my .rev files no long open RunRev when double-clicked, instead DreamCard Player starts up. What do I have to do to make it open RunRev instead? I am using MacOS 9. Association of a primary application with a creator signature in Mac OS is...erm...mysterious. In my experience, the best method for dealing with this sort of situation is: 1. Move the application you want to be primary out of its folder and onto the desktop. 2. Close the folder that the application used to be in. 3. Move the application from the desktop back into the folder. This seems to cause the desktop database to update itself in most cases. Hi, Sorry I understand how the desktop associations work, I really was just wondering *why* DreamCard and Revolution have the *same* creator signature (Revo). According to Apple, each Application should have a unique signature. I can easilly (and have) just changed DreamCard's ID to be something else and then it associates with RunRev again. I think I will write a Stack or a Script and that allows you to specifiy which of these Apps should be used, but I can see this leading to major distribution problems, maybe only under MacOS 9 though which of course isn't so bad. All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New group disappears
Hi, I either just rename the group and then remove/add objects, or I do this: Select the Group Ungroup them Save This seems to kill the Group DEAD! Regroup as Desired All the Best Dave On May 3, 2005, at 7:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dennis- Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 2:43:41 PM, you wrote: DB I select a group of controls and fields. I ungroup them. I select a Why? If you're trying to edit the individual controls, use the unfortunately-named Select Grouped button instead. I was using one stack/card saved as, for a template for a new stack, and I was removing the groups but saving the controls to create new groups. DB What is going on? How do I get my missing controls back? Doesn't happen here, but guess is that you've got another pane on your card that they're disappearing behind. It is a simple one card stack, nothing to hide behind. Besides, the newly created group did not exist in the inspector, just the vanished controls. So the controls were invisible because they were part of a non-existent group that obviously could not be displayed. Control-click or right-click on them in the app browser, select the property inspector, then go the the Object menu and select Bring to Front. Thanks, I will try that next time it happens. Dennis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
tikiwiki, RSS, French, and changing the world
Xavier, (thanks for answering with a meaningful title, I was juggling with the webmail interface I use to check my work account from home and noticed the absence of title right after pushing on send). I regularly have a look at your blogs and forums. My intention was not to create concurrence, only to create a resource targetting a more specialized public. Im honored ;) And concurrence better known as competition in english is actually healthy so i'll be glad if you do - the more we have of runrev out there, the more likely it will be see by others! ;)) Glad to know that still kicks in when I write emails late in the evening, despite having been for 5 years in English speaking countries (Australia and then Scotland) and with very little opportunities to speak my native French (the only thing my fiance ever learned to say in French is S'il vous plait. Je suis perdu. Pouvez-vous m'aider?- I let non French speakers be lost at what this means, this is only fair). :-))) So many users on this list contribute in their non native language! My English is good enough that I do not feel any shame when expressing myself in English, but there is something frustrating about the fact that I cannot anymore use French the way I was able to (you know, knowing the meaning of very rare words, using the exact word in the right context, playing with the ambiguity of meaning of some words, playing with the rhythm of the sentence, the melody of the language) and will probably never be able to do so in English (I learned it too late, studies show that you should learn a second langauge before the age of 7-10 to have a chance to reach native-like competency in pronunciation and grammar). Unfortunately, I went the PHPNuke way - it was the right wiki at the time and it's quite powerful. Also easy to manage but not always easy to modify ;) I gave a try to PHPNuke as well. There are so many different content management systems, nowadays! It is a nightmare to decide the one that best suits your needs. What got me adopt tikiwiki is that (1) it is well designed, easy to manage (but I will need to redesign the interface), (2) the first tikiwiki was about gathering various tikiwiki users and contributors interested in changing the world. That's exactly what I have always wanted to do ;-). True but in this case. I had rss feeds on my website and for those of Metacard list too. But the MC rss never moved and i'd rather have people come to my site for the news IMOHO... Agreed, never changing RSS feeds give a negative rather than positive image of revolution. We may need to wait to reach a critical mass of 50 in the revolution webring for it to be worthwhile. Anyway, I guess that French, CMS and RSS are a bit out of topic for a revolution list. Changing the world probably not. Cheers, Marielle ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
naming variables...
Hello all, how does it come that the simple How do I create and use a numbered set of variables? example does not work in 2.5.1 ? I badly need to collect contents of flds into variables which are used later in the script... repeat with x = 1 to 20 put fld (ax) into (myVar x) end repeat -- returns error : bad destination ??? So how do I manage this ? Thanks for any help, Christian from Luxembourg (11° C, rainy weather -- the weather widget in Tiger is awesome ;-) ) Mac OS X 10.4, iMac G4, 1.25MHZ, 1 Gb RAM ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: naming variables...
Moyen Christian, Finally another Lulu Rev partner? try this get fld (Ax) do put it into myVar X cheers Xavier (i dont need Tiger to get the weather in Luxembourg, I live it daily : )) On 04.05.2005 13:26:51 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hello all, how does it come that the simple How do I create and use a numbered set of variables? example does not work in 2.5.1 ? I badly need to collect contents of flds into variables which are used later in the script... repeat with x = 1 to 20 put fld (ax) into (myVar x) end repeat -- returns error : bad destination ??? So how do I manage this ? Thanks for any help, Christian from Luxembourg (11° C, rainy weather -- the weather widget in Tiger is awesome ;-) ) Mac OS X 10.4, iMac G4, 1.25MHZ, 1 Gb RAM ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: naming variables...
Me too, but often I'm in my computer cellar, Grins ;-) Christian Le 4 mai 05 à 13:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Moyen Christian, Finally another Lulu Rev partner? try this get fld (Ax) do put it into myVar X cheers Xavier (i dont need Tiger to get the weather in Luxembourg, I live it daily : )) On 04.05.2005 13:26:51 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hello all, how does it come that the simple How do I create and use a numbered set of variables? example does not work in 2.5.1 ? I badly need to collect contents of flds into variables which are used later in the script... repeat with x = 1 to 20 put fld (ax) into (myVar x) end repeat -- returns error : bad destination ??? So how do I manage this ? Thanks for any help, Christian from Luxembourg (11° C, rainy weather -- the weather widget in Tiger is awesome ;-) ) Mac OS X 10.4, iMac G4, 1.25MHZ, 1 Gb RAM ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e- mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e- mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: naming variables...
Yikes. I hope RunRev fixes this- I've seen it come up at least twice now on the list and it's an obvious scripting error. The solution is to use the do command. This is similar to the eval function you find in many other languages- basically you dynamically generate the line of code, and then do will execute it at runtime. ## do something repeat with x=1 to 20 put (fld ax into myVarx) into myCode ## myCode = the string put fld a1 into myVar1 do myCode end repeat One cool sidenote- you can also use the do command to execute code from any other OSA scripting language installed if you are on MacOS, which usually means AppleScript. The other way to access outside code is to use shell() in order to run command-line commands, but now I'm straying... HTH, Brian Hello all, how does it come that the simple How do I create and use a numbered set of variables? example does not work in 2.5.1 ? I badly need to collect contents of flds into variables which are used later in the script... repeat with x = 1 to 20 put fld (ax) into (myVar x) end repeat -- returns error : bad destination ??? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Hi list, I´m new to all this Networking stuff, so please be patient. ;-) What I want to do is create a set of folders and files on another computer connected to a small LAN. How do I go about this? I configured my router to assign a static IP to one of the computers (running OsX). I now can get files from library/webserver by using get URL http://staticIPAdd/test.txt; but I can´t use put blah into URL http://staticIP/test.txt; -Error 405 Method not allowed How do I go about this? How can I write text to a file on the other machine? Can I write to a different folderthan library/webserver? Thanks a lot! Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution in Education - ANNOUNCING New List
It's just brand new, Mark. It's only been reactivated in the last 72 hours. Is there a way to kick Google awake? ;) Ro On May 3, 2005, at 10:30 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Ro- Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 1:40:43 PM, you wrote: RN http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/education-revolution The education list isn't indexed at Google yet. Is it just too new or is it just under their radar or are you trying to keep it private for now? As soon as Google starts indexing it I can add it as an option to my ArchiveSearch plugin. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Ro Nagey ~ Evangelist ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~ http:// www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tikiwiki, RSS, French, and changing the world
Frankly, I have no problem with a post in an alternate language. Obviously, English is the predominate one here. However, a post in, say, French will certainly attract all Francophones together! :) However, it's only polite [and I think the ListMom made it a rule] to also post either a babelfish translation of your post or your best effort at translation. Ro On May 4, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Marielle Lange wrote: Anyway, I guess that French, CMS and RSS are a bit out of topic for a revolution list. Changing the world probably not. Ro Nagey ~ Evangelist ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~ http:// www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Internet Time
You can get GMT on Mac OSX put shell(date -u) Windows Internet Time works correctly. It's not GMT that is the problem for all of us, it's DST, which is difficult to obtain because of the way that the seconds is calculated. -- http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Internet Time
Correcting myself (again), it's the local time in seconds that's difficult to arrive at, because of the way the seconds is calcluated. 1) It doesn't take local time zone into account 2) It doesn't take DST into account. -- http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tikiwiki, RSS, French, and changing the world
Isn't there a french Rev or MetaCard list? Please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or submit the link to monsieurx.com. I know I've seen it somewhere... cheers Xavier On 04.05.2005 15:12:13 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Frankly, I have no problem with a post in an alternate language. Obviously, English is the predominate one here. However, a post in, say, French will certainly attract all Francophones together! :) However, it's only polite [and I think the ListMom made it a rule] to also post either a babelfish translation of your post or your best effort at translation. Ro On May 4, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Marielle Lange wrote: Anyway, I guess that French, CMS and RSS are a bit out of topic for a revolution list. Changing the world probably not. Ro Nagey ~ Evangelist ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ~ http:// www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Internet Time
Expanding on this thought, I don't know off the top of my head how you would do this, but using the web features of RR, you could perhaps use the PHP function date to get your offset. In this case it would be date(Z), which should return the seconds offset from GMT. Oh, and once again I forgot to add the tao blog to the sig. I'm such an idiot. -- http://taoofrunrev.blogspot.com http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing a straight line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you just use the line tool? For bitmap line drawing, it's hidden in a submenu with the curve tool (just left of the pencil). On May 4, 2005, at 2:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, well, seems the good folks at RunRev haven't put all the HyperCard goodies in yet. Or there is another bugzilla pilling up dust ;) There's the resizeN2O plugin i wrote that could do this easily with a few tweaks. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=78 But it's unfinished, under-funded and no-one seemed interested. So i put i into the bottom of the pile... I'll put it in the coming week's todos and i might include it in GIM - my new Graphical Interface Manager cheers Xavier On 04.05.2005 06:09:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I have recently been converting some stacks from HyperCard into Revolution. In the process of putting the color back into the stacks, I have found that I need to be drawing straight lines with the pencil tool. However, as for as I know, there is no key that I can hold down such as shift to keep the line going straight, as I can in other drawing apps. Does anyone know of a way to quickly add this functionality to Revolution? Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGEInternet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message.The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries.END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeMyL7aqtWrR9cZoRApGGAJ9QlOjiWipM5qyzjASwWktG2uR76gCfV2ua IBQU34IlV89+YL4cZQWFUKo= =4EcZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not using MetaCard (I don't have a license for that, and have never even tried it), and I never did anything to add a nonempty resource fork to my stack (technically, all files on an HFS filesystem have a resource fork, but they are typically empty). ls -l stack-file.rev/rsrc shows a resource fork with a zero length, so that cannot be it. On May 4, 2005, at 2:58 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: Frank D. Engel, Jr. skrev: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I'm getting the infamous There was an error while saving the standalone application message for just one specific stack. * I checked to ensure that the stack had a .rev extension, it does. * I tried saving to a new empty folder on my desktop. Nope. * I tried saving to my home directory. Still not working. * I tried other stacks, they worked fine. * I ran repair disk permissions and tried again, still no good. * I tried saving to a new empty folder at the root level of my hard drive. Same problem. Mac OS X 10.3.9 Any clues? I had the same problem earlier on when I had opened a MetaCard stack with resources (answer/ask stacks etc)included. I had to go back to MetaCard, remove the resources before being able to save the stack as a rev stack. Could this be the cause? -- Signe Marie Sanne 1. amanuensis/Senior lecturer Romansk institutt Tlf.+47 55 58 21 27 Øisteins gt. 1 Epost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universitetet i Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/Info/sms.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeM6x7aqtWrR9cZoRAuVNAJsH705q+fFYBLVk2SG/HLBQ2xxDVACfc8lB w67Di/A87GZ6bRi7LuUCUdU= =31S2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Internet Time
As I said in my previous post, if you do: convert the internet date to seconds it doesn't account for the timezone. However, the following rev construction: the last word of the internet date gives you the correct offset to GMT. Here in Cambridge, MA, I get '-0400' which is correct since both Cambridge and London are on DST (local standard time + 1 hour). I must therefore add 4 hours (and zero minutes) worth of seconds onto my local time (taking account of the sign of the offset). The complications arise in knowing which countries are currently using DST and which are not, especially since even the countries that do use it, do not all spring forward or fall back on the same day. There are databases online that list which countries use DST and when they change. Perhaps using a cunning HTTP script, somebody could create a World Time Stack ;-) Best Gordon --- Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Expanding on this thought, I don't know off the top of my head how you would do this, but using the web features of RR, you could perhaps use the PHP function date to get your offset. In this case it would be date(Z), which should return the seconds offset from GMT. Oh, and once again I forgot to add the tao blog to the sig. I'm such an idiot. -- http://taoofrunrev.blogspot.com http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing a straight line
I can't use the line tool (or rectangle tool for that matter) because they both seem to almost skip pixels. I'll try to drag a rectangle or draw a line over an area, and I can end the drawing either one pixel from the edge or one pixel over the edge. Scott Slaugh On 5/4/05, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you just use the line tool? For bitmap line drawing, it's hidden in a submenu with the curve tool (just left of the pencil). On May 4, 2005, at 2:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, well, seems the good folks at RunRev haven't put all the HyperCard goodies in yet. Or there is another bugzilla pilling up dust ;) There's the resizeN2O plugin i wrote that could do this easily with a few tweaks. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=78 But it's unfinished, under-funded and no-one seemed interested. So i put i into the bottom of the pile... I'll put it in the coming week's todos and i might include it in GIM - my new Graphical Interface Manager cheers Xavier On 04.05.2005 06:09:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I have recently been converting some stacks from HyperCard into Revolution. In the process of putting the color back into the stacks, I have found that I need to be drawing straight lines with the pencil tool. However, as for as I know, there is no key that I can hold down such as shift to keep the line going straight, as I can in other drawing apps. Does anyone know of a way to quickly add this functionality to Revolution? Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeMyL7aqtWrR9cZoRApGGAJ9QlOjiWipM5qyzjASwWktG2uR76gCfV2ua IBQU34IlV89+YL4cZQWFUKo= =4EcZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 2.5 from 2.2????
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes; At 2:14 PM +0100 5/3/05, David Burgun wrote: I've just updated to 2.5 from 2.2 and my .rev files no long open RunRev when double-clicked, instead DreamCard Player starts up. What do I have to do to make it open RunRev instead? I am using MacOS 9. Association of a primary application with a creator signature in Mac OS is...erm...mysterious. In my experience, the best method for dealing with this sort of situation is: 1. Move the application you want to be primary out of its folder and onto the desktop. 2. Close the folder that the application used to be in. 3. Move the application from the desktop back into the folder. This seems to cause the desktop database to update itself in most cases. Oryou could just use a utility like DragThing to create a dock of all your applications so that you can drag a document and drop it on exactly the application you want to open it in. Gives you much more control than double-clicking. BTW, DragThing is a million times better than the OS X dock; don't throw it away when you get around to upgrading to X. - marty -- Marty Billingsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Error saving standalone -- revisited yet again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I never use the single-byte , = or = versions in any of my scripts. I just checked the only other script I may have added from an outside source since this last worked, and they are clean. I tried suppress messages and save standalone, no good. I then made an exact copy of the stack (using the Finder), opened that copy in Rev, tried saving that as a standalone. Still not working. Next, I tried commenting out the savingStandalone, preOpenStack, openStack, closeStackRequest, shutdownRequest, and closeStack handlers in my mainstack, along with the preOpenCard and openCard handlers in the first card of that stack (I'm working with the copy). I then saved the stack, quit Rev, reopened the stack, turned on Supress Messages, and tried saving the standalone. Same unhelpful error. Needless to say, this is getting rather frustrating. The stack represents several months worth of work. There are 40 substacks, one of which has 42 cards (the mainstack has 8 cards). The mainstack's script got to be so long I broke it down by adding a backscript via a field on the first card (it is added by the preOpenStack script which I commeted out -- that's why I quit Rev before trying to build again). That backscript got to be so long I forked off a *second* backscript, so that there are now two backscripts: one with 838 lines, and one with 803 lines. The mainstack script still has 473 lines , and some of the cards on my mainstack have scripts with line counts like 889 and 807... some of the substacks have scripts of over 200 lines, and a few of their cards have scripts on the order of 100+ lines. And these are just the stacks and cards! Some of the controls also have scripts of several hundred lines each. Needless to say, I can't really afford to lose this stack. I have backup copies, but with this level of complexity, backing up even a step or two could be rather costly, and if the same problems occur... Okay, one more thing I thought to try: I have a number of externals I'm using, some of them are custom ones (that I built). Rev crashes every time I build a standalone from a stack using certain externals (after displaying the message that the standalone was successfully saved, or now this error), and this is one of those stacks. I tried setting the externals of the copy (the one with all of the handlers commented out) to empty, quitting Rev, and repeating the process. Rev thinks about it a little longer now, but still comes back to the same error message. At least this time it didn't crash afterwords ;-) The destination folder (the folder created during the save process) is still not created. On May 3, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Frank, Here are a couple of other suggestions. 1) If you're using a Mac, make sure = is two characters not one. 2) Try commenting out all preOpenStack/preOpenCard openStack/openCard handlers and then build the standalone. If it works, then you can assume you're doing something in the handlers which is creating problems. Enable one at a time and locate the problem handler, then debug from there. Let us know what you find. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeNUO7aqtWrR9cZoRAgsSAJ4iaTIN/UNPxIuh9vN3OmUtrIcGRgCgjokC j4SxZFX+djDVmdVFfwhNQjs= =L6sI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Drawing a straight line
i know this will sound silly but you should know you can use a ruler to draw the line straight with your mouse... If you dont have a ruler, use the keyboard or your head! ;) ;) cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Slaugh Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 15:48 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Drawing a straight line I can't use the line tool (or rectangle tool for that matter) because they both seem to almost skip pixels. I'll try to drag a rectangle or draw a line over an area, and I can end the drawing either one pixel from the edge or one pixel over the edge. Scott Slaugh On 5/4/05, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you just use the line tool? For bitmap line drawing, it's hidden in a submenu with the curve tool (just left of the pencil). On May 4, 2005, at 2:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, well, seems the good folks at RunRev haven't put all the HyperCard goodies in yet. Or there is another bugzilla pilling up dust ;) There's the resizeN2O plugin i wrote that could do this easily with a few tweaks. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=78 But it's unfinished, under-funded and no-one seemed interested. So i put i into the bottom of the pile... I'll put it in the coming week's todos and i might include it in GIM - my new Graphical Interface Manager cheers Xavier On 04.05.2005 06:09:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I have recently been converting some stacks from HyperCard into Revolution. In the process of putting the color back into the stacks, I have found that I need to be drawing straight lines with the pencil tool. However, as for as I know, there is no key that I can hold down such as shift to keep the line going straight, as I can in other drawing apps. Does anyone know of a way to quickly add this functionality to Revolution? Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeMyL7aqtWrR9cZoRApGGAJ9QlOjiWipM5qyzjASwWktG2uR76gCfV2ua IBQU34IlV89+YL4cZQWFUKo= =4EcZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing a straight line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Which line/rectangle tools are you using? There are two of them: one for image objects (bitmaps; below the divider line), and those for graphic objects (vector shapes; above the divider line). On May 4, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Scott Slaugh wrote: I can't use the line tool (or rectangle tool for that matter) because they both seem to almost skip pixels. I'll try to drag a rectangle or draw a line over an area, and I can end the drawing either one pixel from the edge or one pixel over the edge. Scott Slaugh On 5/4/05, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you just use the line tool? For bitmap line drawing, it's hidden in a submenu with the curve tool (just left of the pencil). On May 4, 2005, at 2:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, well, seems the good folks at RunRev haven't put all the HyperCard goodies in yet. Or there is another bugzilla pilling up dust ;) There's the resizeN2O plugin i wrote that could do this easily with a few tweaks. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=78 But it's unfinished, under-funded and no-one seemed interested. So i put i into the bottom of the pile... I'll put it in the coming week's todos and i might include it in GIM - my new Graphical Interface Manager cheers Xavier On 04.05.2005 06:09:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I have recently been converting some stacks from HyperCard into Revolution. In the process of putting the color back into the stacks, I have found that I need to be drawing straight lines with the pencil tool. However, as for as I know, there is no key that I can hold down such as shift to keep the line going straight, as I can in other drawing apps. Does anyone know of a way to quickly add this functionality to Revolution? Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeMyL7aqtWrR9cZoRApGGAJ9QlOjiWipM5qyzjASwWktG2uR76gCfV2ua IBQU34IlV89+YL4cZQWFUKo= =4EcZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeNaH7aqtWrR9cZoRAiI+AJ4nPBgp04e3vbGebSpMcgetqWR1gQCbBmGF 1eC84h9UY2F7pY/1ztoxTsU= =QviH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Update to 2.5 from 2.2????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, technically they are two versions of the same program, and someone with only one or the other will want stacks created with the other one (the one they don't have) to be opened with what they do have, so it makes sense that they would both have the same code. What is truly troublesome is that so many of the standalones created from Rev have not changed the creator code. Thus double-clicking a stack icon can cause that stack to be opened in some oddball standalone app you downloaded from somewhere completely different! And btw, I see this problem on OS X as well. On May 4, 2005, at 6:08 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi, Sorry I understand how the desktop associations work, I really was just wondering *why* DreamCard and Revolution have the *same* creator signature (Revo). According to Apple, each Application should have a unique signature. - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeNdj7aqtWrR9cZoRAj0KAJ0enEFuaRfWuclsogSzRySfpJ++rQCdEpnU SknZoF+MamXw8tnDcNiPMCc= =qQMh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´m new to all this Networking stuff, so please be patient. ;-) What I want to do is create a set of folders and files on another computer connected to a small LAN. How do I go about this? I configured my router to assign a static IP to one of the computers (running OsX). I now can get files from library/webserver by using get URL http://staticIPAdd/test.txt; but I can´t use put blah into URL http://staticIP/test.txt; -Error 405 Method not allowed How do I go about this? How can I write text to a file on the other machine? Can I write to a different folderthan library/webserver? Thanks a lot! There are lots of options probably too many :-) 1. Change your webserver to allow http put operations. Most webservers disallow this, and will default to disallowing it, but you can change the config to allow it. It's generally disallowed because it opens a security hole by allowing other people to write to your webserver - but if this server is simply serving an internal network for some app, not open to the wide, dangerous, world that could be OK. Google for xxx allow http put where xxx is your webserver, and you'll find instructions - especially if xxx == Apache. 2. Export and mount files systems, and access them through that. 3. Run a FTP server on the server, and use put URL ftp://; etc. and many, many others. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Internet Time
Gordon, Obviously the goal is to not have to go through any of this. All that anybody desires is the shortest amount of code to get from the seconds to the seconds in the current time zone. While the rest of this is interesting, it isn't simple. The goal is to make it simple, which ultimately requires some sort of help from the client machine that is executing the RR stack so that the proper offset to the seconds can be obtained. -- http://taoofrunrev.blogspot.com http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing a straight line
It sounds like the objects could be snapping to the grid setting. There is a Grid Spacing (Pixels) preference (under appearance preferences in my version of RR) which affects this IIRC. Mine is set to 1, and I vaguely remember setting it to that myself in order to ocercome the annoyance you describe. Martin Baxter I can't use the line tool (or rectangle tool for that matter) because they both seem to almost skip pixels. I'll try to drag a rectangle or draw a line over an area, and I can end the drawing either one pixel from the edge or one pixel over the edge. Scott Slaugh On 5/4/05, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you just use the line tool? For bitmap line drawing, it's hidden in a submenu with the curve tool (just left of the pencil). On May 4, 2005, at 2:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, well, seems the good folks at RunRev haven't put all the HyperCard goodies in yet. Or there is another bugzilla pilling up dust ;) There's the resizeN2O plugin i wrote that could do this easily with a few tweaks. http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=78 But it's unfinished, under-funded and no-one seemed interested. So i put i into the bottom of the pile... I'll put it in the coming week's todos and i might include it in GIM - my new Graphical Interface Manager cheers Xavier On 04.05.2005 06:09:33 use-revolution-bounces wrote: I have recently been converting some stacks from HyperCard into Revolution. In the process of putting the color back into the stacks, I have found that I need to be drawing straight lines with the pencil tool. However, as for as I know, there is no key that I can hold down such as shift to keep the line going straight, as I can in other drawing apps. Does anyone know of a way to quickly add this functionality to Revolution? Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeMyL7aqtWrR9cZoRApGGAJ9QlOjiWipM5qyzjASwWktG2uR76gCfV2ua IBQU34IlV89+YL4cZQWFUKo= =4EcZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
On May 2, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: I'm not sure how to catalog Forth, but it's not OO (inherently -- there are OO implementations). It's procedural, certainly, but the inherent stack gives it a definite functional feel. Forth is not really a high level language any more than assembler is. It is an alternative machine language based on a double stack architecture. There have been hardware implementations of Forth as the native machine instruction set. When emulated, the Code just consists of a list of addresses to the actual machine code for the native functions, or addresses of higher level defined function (uses a flag bit to tell which). This makes it execute much faster than byte code. You can implement a higher level language within the syntax of Forth because of its extensible nature. Words are defined from other words in an interpretive environment. Because of the double stack architecture, data arguments are passed and returned on one stack and return addresses are in the other stack. It makes a very efficient and powerful architecture for developing real time machine controllers with a tiny amount of memory. You are free to define words that implement an OO environment if you choose. You could even create Rev using this as the lower level P code, or an operating system for that matter. I understand how Forth works. I'm just not sure how I would categorize it. On further reflection, I would say that Forth is functional in about the same way that Revolution is Object-Oriented. In other words, loosely. ;-) I disagree that Forth is no more high-level than assembler is. The built-in extensibility of Forth syntax makes it much more than just a convenient way of handling machine language. gc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Profiling? Odd delay on windows
No, I'm not locking the screen. This only happens on Windows. I put a beep at the end of the preOpenCard and a beep at the beginning of openCard and there is a 1-2 second delay between the beeps. Not visual effects are involved (that I'm aware of). The page I'm going to just has several graphics on it. At 11:19 AM 4/25/2005, you wrote: On 4/25/05 11:03 AM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: No, I'm not using any visual effects. I'm just using go to card CardName I basically have 3 tabs, and when you click on one of the tabs, it goes to one of 3 cards. The 3rd card is what takes so long (and it has less on it than the first two). I just had a similar delay in a stack and found it was running a long preOpenCard script while the screen was locked. That made it look like the card hadn't changed, though it really had. Are you locking the screen? At 10:53 AM 4/25/2005, Dave Cragg wrote: On 25 Apr 2005, at 15:48, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Is there any way to do application profiling (to find out what Revolution is doing)? I am experiencing an odd delay of 1-2 seconds when going to a card on Windows in a stand-alone (which doesn't happen on the Mac). It appears it is something that is happening between preOpenCard and OpenCard. It is happening only on the first time I go to that card. Are you using visual effects when going to the card. It could be QuickTime starting up that causes the delay. I seem to remember a report of this before. If so, perhaps you can do something to start quickTime before going to the card. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 24-hour recorded info hotline: 1-800-624-7671 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 24-hour recorded info hotline: 1-800-624-7671 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re:File associations in OS 9
Actually there was always a procedure...'Rebuild the Desktop' that fixed file associations. There is a four finger salutation of some kind done when a volume was mounted that got the Rebuild the Desktop? dialog. Also the original TechTool would delete the desktop file (forcing a rebuild) and do a 'zap' the Pram and yes, Micromat still offers it.. it was always regular maintenance just like 'fixing permissions' is today with OSX... http://www.micromat.com/tt_lite/tt_lite.html I love a lot of things about OS9... it's speedy, lack of eye-candy (have you seen it run on a dual-1.25ghz machine?). The text editing core code was better engineered as far as selection is concerned. It's totally different in OSX. The timing is way different. It's hard in OSX to say, click before a selection, as it wants to keep the selection active, eventually by clicking you lose the content completely. One does about 3x as much clicking. And files launch way too easily from a list when one is trying to just edit the filename. And don't get me started about the default listing of files in the ask/answer file dialogs - one has to click three times every time to get a descending file list (it doesn't stick). And I preferred borders around windows. In OSX I swear I click inside the boundaries of a window and I get what's behind the window selected instead. This happens 3 or 4 times a day. The NEXT geeks won in that department. If we hadn't so loudly complained, we wouldn't have a desktop. Having said that, even with all the eye candy, it's amazingly stable. Association of a primary application with a creator signature in Mac OS is...erm...mysterious. In my experience, the best method for dealing with this sort of situation is: 1. Move the application you want to be primary out of its folder and onto the desktop. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Hi Malte, I would recommend creating a shared folder on the 'networked' drive, then trying to 'drag/drop' a file from your computer to it to make sure it works. If it does, then you can map it to a drive letter, and simply use the put URL form: put URL file:C:/test.txt into URL file:X:/test.txt HTH, Chipp Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´m new to all this Networking stuff, so please be patient. ;-) What I want to do is create a set of folders and files on another computer connected to a small LAN. How do I go about this? I configured my router to assign a static IP to one of the computers (running OsX). I now can get files from library/webserver by using ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing a straight line
Hi Scott, The reason it's 'skipping pixels' is that you've got a grid preference setting other than 1. Check your prefs. -Chipp Scott Slaugh wrote: I can't use the line tool (or rectangle tool for that matter) because they both seem to almost skip pixels. I'll try to drag a rectangle or draw a line over an area, and I can end the drawing either one pixel from the edge or one pixel over the edge. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
On May 4, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: I'm not sure how to catalog Forth, but it's not OO (inherently -- there are OO implementations). It's procedural, certainly, but the inherent stack gives it a definite functional feel. Forth is not really a high level language any more than assembler is. It is an alternative machine language based on a double stack architecture. There have been hardware implementations of Forth as the native machine instruction set. When emulated, the Code just consists of a list of addresses to the actual machine code for the native functions, or addresses of higher level defined function (uses a flag bit to tell which). This makes it execute much faster than byte code. You can implement a higher level language within the syntax of Forth because of its extensible nature. Words are defined from other words in an interpretive environment. Because of the double stack architecture, data arguments are passed and returned on one stack and return addresses are in the other stack. It makes a very efficient and powerful architecture for developing real time machine controllers with a tiny amount of memory. You are free to define words that implement an OO environment if you choose. You could even create Rev using this as the lower level P code, or an operating system for that matter. I understand how Forth works. I'm just not sure how I would categorize it. On further reflection, I would say that Forth is functional in about the same way that Revolution is Object- Oriented. In other words, loosely. ;-) I disagree that Forth is no more high-level than assembler is. The built-in extensibility of Forth syntax makes it much more than just a convenient way of handling machine language. I was referring to the native instruction words as being like assembler. In fact now days, microprocessors like the G5 etc. have much higher level functionality than Forth. Just as you can write macros in assembler that implement a pseudo higher level language of your design, Forth gives the same ability in a very convenient defined way. I liked Forth a lot twenty years ago when I was playing with it. If one were to redesign it again today, a much more robust set of native words could be created for modern microprocessors and methods. But I have found that the UI is really 90% of programming these days, and for that you can't beat Rev. I just want fast fixed type array processing for the other 10% of the program with a seamless interface between the two. Rev is plenty fast for most stuff, but an order of magnitude too slow for the array stuff. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Profiling? Odd delay on windows
Peter T. Evensen wrote: No, I'm not locking the screen. This only happens on Windows. I put a beep at the end of the preOpenCard and a beep at the beginning of openCard and there is a 1-2 second delay between the beeps. Not visual effects are involved (that I'm aware of). The page I'm going to just has several graphics on it. Are any of those graphics in PICT format? I believe the engine uses QT to render those. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: To Rev or not to Rev
Im sick of this non-sense - no offense to you Mickey... Object oriented technology is just any way to refer semantically via a programming language to operate on generic objects or objects derived from those. RR doesn't have a memory model but it's possible to create it with easy commands. And I'll quote Grady Booch it is therefore the task of the developer to distribute such behaviors so that they may be combined in interesting ways, giving rise to the 'self-maintaining fire' that is the mark of a profound oo architecture. Pg 167 The Best of Booch (Sigs Reference Library - Cambridge Univ. Press) Patterns, templates, polymorph*, abstraction, classes and all the rest are just a matter of imagination or interpretation. If the engine doesn't support the abstraction, you write it. If they dont support polimorph*, you branch it. ez! In Forth, it's like in C, you add a layer ++. Java, and others have it... RunRev - doesn't have the abstraction? They do, but they is literally no array handling to speak of compared to other mainstream languages. It's nice to keep things easy but it makes the use and adaptability very weak IMOHO. Sorry, it's reality... In forth or c you could develop libraries to handle arrays with little performance hits. In RunRev, it's another story... With one exception... If a background behavior group is considered a class, and a card in this group is an object then you jump one step ahead of any other environment. So... That's the TAOO object model base for data storage. It also works in SQL or any other classic memory storage (arrays, folder/files, FMP layouts, etc...) My 2 TAOOcentric cents... Critiques are welcome naturally! Cheers Xav http://monsieurx.com/taoo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Canyon Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 16:44 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: To Rev or not to Rev On May 2, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: I'm not sure how to catalog Forth, but it's not OO (inherently -- there are OO implementations). It's procedural, certainly, but the inherent stack gives it a definite functional feel. Forth is not really a high level language any more than assembler is. It is an alternative machine language based on a double stack architecture. There have been hardware implementations of Forth as the native machine instruction set. When emulated, the Code just consists of a list of addresses to the actual machine code for the native functions, or addresses of higher level defined function (uses a flag bit to tell which). This makes it execute much faster than byte code. You can implement a higher level language within the syntax of Forth because of its extensible nature. Words are defined from other words in an interpretive environment. Because of the double stack architecture, data arguments are passed and returned on one stack and return addresses are in the other stack. It makes a very efficient and powerful architecture for developing real time machine controllers with a tiny amount of memory. You are free to define words that implement an OO environment if you choose. You could even create Rev using this as the lower level P code, or an operating system for that matter. I understand how Forth works. I'm just not sure how I would categorize it. On further reflection, I would say that Forth is functional in about the same way that Revolution is Object-Oriented. In other words, loosely. ;-) I disagree that Forth is no more high-level than assembler is. The built-in extensibility of Forth syntax makes it much more than just a convenient way of handling machine language. gc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
David Burgun wrote: Is the Structure of a Stack File published anywhere? Not to my knowledge, as with most commercial formats it's considered proprietary. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Frozen Accidents
Lynn, Dan, Gordon, et al: It's never about the technology. I've seen so many great technologies buried by inferior products that had either more marketing money or better lawyers than I've seen succeed. Add to that ineptitude or failure to appreciate the market potential on the part of management (eg: Softech Microsystems decision to charge $400 for the UCSD-p System for the original IBM PC when Microsoft was selling PC-DOS for $40), and I couldn't agree more. Which is why I feel Apple will continue to loose market share if it cannot bring touch screen, handwriting recognition, pen input, voice recognition, and WiFi technology to market bundled a la the various Windows Tablet PCs. Having used a TPC for about six months now, nothing would entice me to put down my pen and reach for a mouse, keyboard, track pad, or track ball. Rob Cozens CCW Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New group disappears
I was wondering if this is a Rev stability bug that is repeatable enough to make a BZ entry. Dennis On May 4, 2005, at 6:24 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi, I either just rename the group and then remove/add objects, or I do this: Select the Group Ungroup them Save This seems to kill the Group DEAD! Regroup as Desired All the Best Dave On May 3, 2005, at 7:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dennis- Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 2:43:41 PM, you wrote: DB I select a group of controls and fields. I ungroup them. I select a Why? If you're trying to edit the individual controls, use the unfortunately-named Select Grouped button instead. I was using one stack/card saved as, for a template for a new stack, and I was removing the groups but saving the controls to create new groups. DB What is going on? How do I get my missing controls back? Doesn't happen here, but guess is that you've got another pane on your card that they're disappearing behind. It is a simple one card stack, nothing to hide behind. Besides, the newly created group did not exist in the inspector, just the vanished controls. So the controls were invisible because they were part of a non-existent group that obviously could not be displayed. Control-click or right-click on them in the app browser, select the property inspector, then go the the Object menu and select Bring to Front. Thanks, I will try that next time it happens. Dennis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
I totally agree with Dennis. Efficient arrays are the missing link in rev. Gordon --- Dennis Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 2005, at 10:43 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: I'm not sure how to catalog Forth, but it's not OO (inherently -- there are OO implementations). It's procedural, certainly, but the inherent stack gives it a definite functional feel. Forth is not really a high level language any more than assembler is. It is an alternative machine language based on a double stack architecture. There have been hardware implementations of Forth as the native machine instruction set. When emulated, the Code just consists of a list of addresses to the actual machine code for the native functions, or addresses of higher level defined function (uses a flag bit to tell which). This makes it execute much faster than byte code. You can implement a higher level language within the syntax of Forth because of its extensible nature. Words are defined from other words in an interpretive environment. Because of the double stack architecture, data arguments are passed and returned on one stack and return addresses are in the other stack. It makes a very efficient and powerful architecture for developing real time machine controllers with a tiny amount of memory. You are free to define words that implement an OO environment if you choose. You could even create Rev using this as the lower level P code, or an operating system for that matter. I understand how Forth works. I'm just not sure how I would categorize it. On further reflection, I would say that Forth is functional in about the same way that Revolution is Object- Oriented. In other words, loosely. ;-) I disagree that Forth is no more high-level than assembler is. The built-in extensibility of Forth syntax makes it much more than just a convenient way of handling machine language. I was referring to the native instruction words as being like assembler. In fact now days, microprocessors like the G5 etc. have much higher level functionality than Forth. Just as you can write macros in assembler that implement a pseudo higher level language of your design, Forth gives the same ability in a very convenient defined way. I liked Forth a lot twenty years ago when I was playing with it. If one were to redesign it again today, a much more robust set of native words could be created for modern microprocessors and methods. But I have found that the UI is really 90% of programming these days, and for that you can't beat Rev. I just want fast fixed type array processing for the other 10% of the program with a seamless interface between the two. Rev is plenty fast for most stuff, but an order of magnitude too slow for the array stuff. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution :: Gordon Webster :: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Frozen Accidents
Rob, et al I beat you to it in 1996! http://www.monsieurx.com/design/xpim.html ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Cozens Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 17:48 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Frozen Accidents Lynn, Dan, Gordon, et al: It's never about the technology. I've seen so many great technologies buried by inferior products that had either more marketing money or better lawyers than I've seen succeed. Add to that ineptitude or failure to appreciate the market potential on the part of management (eg: Softech Microsystems decision to charge $400 for the UCSD-p System for the original IBM PC when Microsoft was selling PC-DOS for $40), and I couldn't agree more. Which is why I feel Apple will continue to loose market share if it cannot bring touch screen, handwriting recognition, pen input, voice recognition, and WiFi technology to market bundled a la the various Windows Tablet PCs. Having used a TPC for about six months now, nothing would entice me to put down my pen and reach for a mouse, keyboard, track pad, or track ball. Rob Cozens CCW Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: New group disappears
yes but it doesn't guarantee you will ever get a solution for it http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2341 But there's always a kind soul to write a workaround ;) cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 17:50 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: New group disappears I was wondering if this is a Rev stability bug that is repeatable enough to make a BZ entry. Dennis On May 4, 2005, at 6:24 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi, I either just rename the group and then remove/add objects, or I do this: Select the Group Ungroup them Save This seems to kill the Group DEAD! Regroup as Desired All the Best Dave On May 3, 2005, at 7:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dennis- Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 2:43:41 PM, you wrote: DB I select a group of controls and fields. I ungroup them. I select a Why? If you're trying to edit the individual controls, use the unfortunately-named Select Grouped button instead. I was using one stack/card saved as, for a template for a new stack, and I was removing the groups but saving the controls to create new groups. DB What is going on? How do I get my missing controls back? Doesn't happen here, but guess is that you've got another pane on your card that they're disappearing behind. It is a simple one card stack, nothing to hide behind. Besides, the newly created group did not exist in the inspector, just the vanished controls. So the controls were invisible because they were part of a non-existent group that obviously could not be displayed. Control-click or right-click on them in the app browser, select the property inspector, then go the the Object menu and select Bring to Front. Thanks, I will try that next time it happens. Dennis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New group disappears
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, that does seem to indicate that you worked around the problem awhile, which to Rev's mind seemingly reduces the urgency of the bug... Also, that was *only* posted this past November (6-7 months ago), compared to some of the other bugs out there... On May 4, 2005, at 12:02 PM, MisterX wrote: yes but it doesn't guarantee you will ever get a solution for it http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2341 But there's always a kind soul to write a workaround ;) cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Brown Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 17:50 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: New group disappears I was wondering if this is a Rev stability bug that is repeatable enough to make a BZ entry. Dennis On May 4, 2005, at 6:24 AM, David Burgun wrote: Hi, I either just rename the group and then remove/add objects, or I do this: Select the Group Ungroup them Save This seems to kill the Group DEAD! Regroup as Desired All the Best Dave On May 3, 2005, at 7:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Dennis- Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 2:43:41 PM, you wrote: DB I select a group of controls and fields. I ungroup them. I select a Why? If you're trying to edit the individual controls, use the unfortunately-named Select Grouped button instead. I was using one stack/card saved as, for a template for a new stack, and I was removing the groups but saving the controls to create new groups. DB What is going on? How do I get my missing controls back? Doesn't happen here, but guess is that you've got another pane on your card that they're disappearing behind. It is a simple one card stack, nothing to hide behind. Besides, the newly created group did not exist in the inspector, just the vanished controls. So the controls were invisible because they were part of a non-existent group that obviously could not be displayed. Control-click or right-click on them in the app browser, select the property inspector, then go the the Object menu and select Bring to Front. Thanks, I will try that next time it happens. Dennis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCePUI7aqtWrR9cZoRAmbVAJ91PeGZHe2KhAk+PkExEWQ5m2P7zQCcDZw7 e/ibYu7rIMzwKKbPE//C6HM= =xlQT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: naming variables...
It is not a scripting error if you are following the Reference Documentation supplied with Rev: --- How do I create and use a numbered set of variables? To easily create a set of variables with similar names (such as myVar1, myVar2,...,myVar20), you can use the concatenation operator . The following example shows how to use a set of variables named myVar1, myVar2,...,myVar20: repeat with x = 1 to 20 put empty into (myVar x) end repeat ---' Notice no mention of the do command. This is what tripped me up. I entered a BZ for it: #2753 Dennis On May 4, 2005, at 8:09 AM, Brian Yennie wrote: Yikes. I hope RunRev fixes this- I've seen it come up at least twice now on the list and it's an obvious scripting error. The solution is to use the do command. This is similar to the eval function you find in many other languages- basically you dynamically generate the line of code, and then do will execute it at runtime. ## do something repeat with x=1 to 20 put (fld ax into myVarx) into myCode ## myCode = the string put fld a1 into myVar1 do myCode end repeat One cool sidenote- you can also use the do command to execute code from any other OSA scripting language installed if you are on MacOS, which usually means AppleScript. The other way to access outside code is to use shell() in order to run command-line commands, but now I'm straying... HTH, Brian Hello all, how does it come that the simple How do I create and use a numbered set of variables? example does not work in 2.5.1 ? I badly need to collect contents of flds into variables which are used later in the script... repeat with x = 1 to 20 put fld (ax) into (myVar x) end repeat -- returns error : bad destination ??? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-2: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Hallo Malte, hi Chipp The syntax on win machines for creating a path mapping from an UNC path to a ms drive letter: net use q: \\server\share\path persistent:yes If you need specifiing access rights you can do net use q: \\server\share\path mypassWrd /USER:maltedomain\malte persistent:yes If the server/PC can be reached by the filesystem through TCP/IP (even over a VPN connection) you can use this syntax. syntax cf. http://www.computerhope.com/nethlp.htm (or just type net use /?) in runrev: set the hideConsoleWindows to true get shell(net use q: \\192.168.20.1\share1\path ) get shell(net use z: \\192.168.20.2\share2\path ) Then you can put the file from q: to z: and after the session you could delete the mapping set the hideConsoleWindows to true get shell(net use q: /delete ) get shell(net use z: /delete ) for the next sessions. if runrev cant do the copy just use xcopy type xcopy /? on win Greetings, Franz Mit freundlichen Grüßen Franz Böhmisch http://www.animabit.de GF Animabit Multimedia Software GmbH Tel +49 (0)8501-8538 Fax +49 (0)8501-8537 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Messageprocessed by David InfoCenter Subject: Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN? (04-Mai-2005 17:19) From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Malte, I would recommend creating a shared folder on the 'networked' drive, then trying to 'drag/drop' a file from your computer to it to make sure it works. If it does, then you can map it to a drive letter, and simply use the put URL form: put URL file:C:/test.txt into URL file:X:/test.txt HTH, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Publish and Subscribe iCal with RunRev
Hello everyone, I have a dream! I want my calendar displayed in Apple's iCal (or other vCal client) but I want the data stored in a database so I can integrate it into group and corporate databases systems. My thought was that I could use RunRev to create a little server that accepts iCal publish and subscribe requests, then parses the data and flings it into (or pulls it from) an ODBC database of my choice. Does anybody have any thoughts or ideas about this approach? I am pretty new to RunRev so any tips pointers or other ideas would be appreciated. What do you think? zack ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Publish and Subscribe iCal with RunRev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is already a solved problem: http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php hth On May 4, 2005, at 12:29 PM, zack wrote: Hello everyone, I have a dream! I want my calendar displayed in Apple's iCal (or other vCal client) but I want the data stored in a database so I can integrate it into group and corporate databases systems. My thought was that I could use RunRev to create a little server that accepts iCal publish and subscribe requests, then parses the data and flings it into (or pulls it from) an ODBC database of my choice. Does anybody have any thoughts or ideas about this approach? I am pretty new to RunRev so any tips pointers or other ideas would be appreciated. What do you think? zack - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeP0/7aqtWrR9cZoRAirIAJ9jd+89gyprOFTiEtQCAcZ9izxUywCgiqnq wVK5Zx1/QY9gelIbFJVy+Pk= =cZK8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Frozen Accidents
Xman,
I beat you to it in 1996!
http://www.monsieurx.com/design/xpim.html
Close, my friend, but you missed the part about the pen being mightier than
the track ball. :{`)
Rob
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Re: Publish and Subscribe iCal with RunRev
Thanks for this. It looks interesting. I will check it out. But I still would prefer to do it with RunRev if possible. This project is as much educational for me then anything else. Thanks Zack On 5/4/05 9:50 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is already a solved problem: http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php hth ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Frozen Accidents
A pen is easily broken, lost, etc...
And you can't loose a trackball or breakit!
And you only need one hand to operate the world!
Gotcha! ;)
The pen is quicker to point to the screen though
as i remember from my wacom pad on my venerable
last PowerMac 8500...
And i had speech recognition doing my applescript
batches too then! Such were good times!
cheers
Xav
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S'cuz me, i just regained consciousness!
a friend's Orange Pinto's bumper-sticker...
the car was named Ody after Garfield's buddy
-Original Message-
From: Rob Cozens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 18:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution
Subject: RE: Frozen Accidents
Xman,
I beat you to it in 1996!
http://www.monsieurx.com/design/xpim.html
Close, my friend, but you missed the part about the pen being
mightier than
the track ball. :{`)
Rob
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Re: Revolution in Education - ANNOUNCING New List
Ro- Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 5:56:51 AM, you wrote: RN It's just brand new, Mark. It's only been reactivated in the last 72 RN hours. Is there a way to kick Google awake? ;) I don't know if it activates their indexing, but this should help: http://www.google.com/addurl/?continue=/addurl -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Profiling? Odd delay on windows
No, they are all png and jpgs, which are also on the first screen, so the QT engine should be loaded already. At 10:26 AM 5/4/2005, Richard Gaskin wrote: Peter T. Evensen wrote: No, I'm not locking the screen. This only happens on Windows. I put a beep at the end of the preOpenCard and a beep at the beginning of openCard and there is a 1-2 second delay between the beeps. Not visual effects are involved (that I'm aware of). The page I'm going to just has several graphics on it. Are any of those graphics in PICT format? I believe the engine uses QT to render those. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 24-hour recorded info hotline: 1-800-624-7671 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Contributions in languages other than English
Hi Ro, I am not sure the issue there is politeness. The translation of your post to French and back from French to English is the following (and, believe me, it is worse in French than the translation back to English): Frankly, I do not have any problem with a (road) post in an alternative language. Obviously, English is here the prevalence one. However, a (road) post in for example the French will attract certainly all the French-speaking people together! :) However, it is only polished [ and me think ListMom made to him a rule ] to also announce a translation of babelfish of your post or your best effort to the translation. Imagine you are a non-native. How would you feel about publishing this on the revolution list? Would you dare put a post that consists in a babelfish translation on a Russian list (assuming you do not know a word of Russian)? As a native, what is your first impression (you know, the one that counts so much) of the writer of the babelfish post above? It is not a question of politeness, but of self-restraint. Foreign speakers will usually refrain from contributing until they are confident enough about writing in English. Politeness possibly rather recommends a babelfish link to be automatically added at the bottom of all posts, including the ones in English. ;-)... The wiki I use (http://revolution.lexicall.org/wiki/) does that, why not copy their script? Why not also use it on the revolution website? Marielle ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
don`t piss me off
- Original Message - From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: RE: Drawing a straight line Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:03:59 +0200 i know this will sound silly but you should know you can use a ruler to draw the line straight with your mouse... If you dont have a ruler, use the keyboard or your head! ;) ;) cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Slaugh Dear Mr. X; I downloaded rev, to try it out!! and they asked me, if i wanted some email. (very little. as it was put to me)!! and i haven`t even opened the file to try it out yet!! and i seem to be getting hundreds of e mails in my box every day!!! and half are repeats. i am not happy about this! i am sorry to single you out, but I noticed your name as frequent as anyones . please tell me how to stop this maddness. nothing personal toward you! but i am only allowd 2 meg in my email box. and my friends can`t even send me a messege, because my box is so full with this stuff. is there any way you can help me? I think that i won`t be interested in this product at all, if this keeps up! I am not in some office just waiting to here about the next move on the pc, for the day. i was thinking about learning how to program my own software! i am a physically disabled vietnam vet, just trying to learn how to get by in todays world. can you give me any advice on this subject? i am just a poor ole farm boy, who don`t even understand what they are talking about, most of the time. i am only trying to learn! if people don`t piss me off! too bad, too soon!but take my word for it .nothing to do with you as to why i am upset! I guess i just needed someone to vent to.and again I am sorry about that, but i am just getting irritated about the emails. sorry to take it out on you! but i thought you might be able to help me, or set me on to the right track, on who to talk to. PLEASE HELP ME I am willing to learn, and want to learn but these people are overwellming me!!!i am sorry . i cant spell either!! can ya help me? thanks for letting me vent to you. i hope you don`t hold it against me personably either. THANKS AGAIN! FRANK KNOX -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Corrupted Stack
Piece of cake! If you strip any character that's above or below a certain ASCII level, you should have a text file with the content of your stack that can be easily parsed to restore the stack. Most objects are delimited. I've done so a zillion times it seems... But to be honest, I haven't written the stack to recuperate or fix corrupted stacks yet, but i have lots of hypercard stacks I can't port - including a 14000 Mac icon library that's a shame to throw away... But c'est la vie... The funniest is that my script extractor HC stack is corrupted too ;) Challenge: For 1500 EUs or a free ticket 1-2 week trip to Luxembourg-Chicago-Monterey-Luxembourg, i'll write an opensource free stack parser/stack reconstructor... Monterey or bust! ;) cheers Xav -- http://Monsieurx.Com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 17:41 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Corrupted Stack David Burgun wrote: Is the Structure of a Stack File published anywhere? Not to my knowledge, as with most commercial formats it's considered proprietary. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: don`t piss me off
frank knox wrote: I downloaded rev, to try it out!! and they asked me, if i wanted some email. (very little. as it was put to me)!! and i haven`t even opened the file to try it out yet!! and i seem to be getting hundreds of e mails in my box every day!!! It's called a discussion list. It's fully optional, and after you choose to subscribe you can also choose to unsubscribe. Have you tried the link included at the bottom of every post?: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: don`t piss me off
Dear Frank, Don't Panic! Evidently you checked the box to subscribe you to the use-list, not realising how extremely helpful and chatty the good folks on this list really are :) There are two solutions. You can unsubscribe, by going here: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution But then of course you'll be missing all these wonderful new potential friends. The alternative is to set your list preference to digest mode. This has the effect of gathering up all the individual posts into one or two magazine daily posts. This is a much more manageable way to receive the list. You can set your preferences by going to the same url, if you scroll to the bottom of the page you will see the area where you can manage your list subscription. If you have any problems at all just write me, off list, and I'll be happy to help you. I'm the listmom, and my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, and welcome, Heather Dear Mr. X; I downloaded rev, to try it out!! and they asked me, if i wanted some email. (very little. as it was put to me)!! and i haven`t even opened the file to try it out yet!! and i seem to be getting hundreds of e mails in my box every day!!! and half are repeats. i am not happy about this! i am sorry to single you out, but I noticed your name as frequent as anyones . please tell me how to stop this maddness. nothing personal toward you! but i am only allowd 2 meg in my email box. and my friends can`t even send me a messege, because my box is so full with this stuff. is there any way you can help me? I think that i won`t be interested in this product at all, if this keeps up! I am not in some office just waiting to here about the next move on the pc, for the day. i was thinking about learning how to program my own software! i am a physically disabled vietnam vet, just trying to learn how to get by in todays world. can you give me any advice on this subject? i am just a poor ole farm boy, who don`t even understand what they are talking about, most of the time. i am only trying to learn! if people don`t piss me off! too bad, too soon!but take my word for it .nothing to do with you as to why i am upset! I guess i just needed someone to vent to.and again I am sorry about that, but i am just getting irritated about the emails. sorry to take it out on you! but i thought you might be able to help me, or set me on to the right track, on who to talk to. PLEASE HELP ME I am willing to learn, and want to learn but these people are overwellming me!!!i am sorry . i cant spell either!! can ya help me? thanks for letting me vent to you. i hope you don`t hold it against me personably either. THANKS AGAIN! FRANK KNOX -- ** For a faster response to all licensing, support, and technical issues, please now send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Heather Nagey ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools Tel +44 (0) 870 747 1165 Fax +44 (0) 845 4588487 ~~~ Check our web site for new Revolution editions special offers ~~~ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Internet Time
It is GMT whether you do not believe or not. -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ On May 4, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Mikey wrote: You can get GMT on Mac OSX put shell(date -u) Windows Internet Time works correctly. It's not GMT that is the problem for all of us, it's DST, which is difficult to obtain because of the way that the seconds is calculated. -- http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Internet Time
It is GMT whether you do not believe or not. What? -- http://taoofrunrev.blogspot.com http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Frozen Accidents
And to think I was so excited when I got an Outback portable back in 90 or so. -- http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Frozen Accidents
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RE: Frozen Accidents
Rob, Will you take speech recog as in any GSM? I can have it routed to HyperCard any time for you! ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Cozens Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 20:26 To: How to use Revolution Subject: RE: Frozen Accidents Xavier, I'll buy your argument as soon as you can show me a trackball incorporating handwriting recognition.., Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[off]gmail invites
I'm so rude! I've been in this group for a while and haven't offered gmail invites! I have 50 (more) to pass out, if anybody is interested in trying it out. Mike. -- http://taoofrunrev.blogspot.com http://taoof4d.blogspot.com http://4dwishlist.blogspot.com On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Another STANDALONE query, I'm afraid
I now understand how to build a Standalone that saves data in a stack - first make a stub stack, and then create your real stack as a substack, and set the standalone options to treat it as a .rev file, so that the standalone user can save to it. My problem is that before I appreciated this, I had created a large stack as a mainstack. Now I want to make it a substack of a new stub stack. How do I do this? I hope it's a really simple question that I just can't see the answer to... -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
Gordon Webster wrote: I totally agree with Dennis. Efficient arrays are the missing link in rev. http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Another STANDALONE query, I'm afraid
The answer is in a TAOO folder structure. Spread your stacks in one or many subfolders depending on the context. Your application knows where to search and the rest is go to stack x... The best is to have one engine and many data files you can upgrade without modifying the engine... cheers Xav http://monsieurx.com/taoo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ridge Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 20:56 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Another STANDALONE query, I'm afraid I now understand how to build a Standalone that saves data in a stack - first make a stub stack, and then create your real stack as a substack, and set the standalone options to treat it as a .rev file, so that the standalone user can save to it. My problem is that before I appreciated this, I had created a large stack as a mainstack. Now I want to make it a substack of a new stub stack. How do I do this? I hope it's a really simple question that I just can't see the answer to... -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: To Rev or not to Rev
the question mark made it red!!! http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555 works better ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 21:08 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: To Rev or not to Rev Gordon Webster wrote: I totally agree with Dennis. Efficient arrays are the missing link in rev. http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Contributions in languages other than English
Marielle Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not a question of politeness, but of self-restraint. Foreign speakers will usually refrain from contributing until they are confident enough about writing in English. Please note that there IS a french-speakig RR List ;-) But the traffic is very low, there... if someone wants an answer at his question, one has to go to the english-speaking List. * Pour consulter votre groupe en ligne, accédez à : http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/revolutionfr/ -- Revolutionario ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Quick Demo stack for creating Transpanrecy effect.
Helping out a friend, I did this. It could be good for a number of things including: Creating cursors Creating transparent GIFs etc.. in the messagebox: go URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altMakeTrans.rev; altMakeTransparent This is a small demo stack which has a neat function which can make a specific color transparent in an image. The demo makes all white pixels transparent. The function is in the script of the button, Make White Transparent -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another STANDALONE query, I'm afraid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You technically don't need to. Just include the actual stack in the same folder as the stub stack, and the standalone stub stack should find and open it, just as in the IDE. If you really want to do this anyway, you need to make sure the real stack has no substacks of its own (only one layer deep allowed), then simply set its main stack (in the property inspector) to be the stub stack. Save the stub stack. Be weary of unhandled messages from the substack being obtained by the mainstack! On May 4, 2005, at 2:55 PM, John Ridge wrote: I now understand how to build a Standalone that saves data in a stack - first make a stub stack, and then create your real stack as a substack, and set the standalone options to treat it as a .rev file, so that the standalone user can save to it. My problem is that before I appreciated this, I had created a large stack as a mainstack. Now I want to make it a substack of a new stub stack. How do I do this? I hope it's a really simple question that I just can't see the answer to... -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCeSmq7aqtWrR9cZoRAvaBAJ9crQclFmujD9CndphIxUxq+x6/aACfX61o kZ8EkRvr/NnoigJjlh+ksvA= =m4A1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quick Demo stack for creating Transpanrecy effect.
I've done that before : setting transparent pixels, replacing colors in an image, etc. the problem with using the imagedata property is that it's terribly slow... it works for small images (like in your example), but for large images, better write an external... JB Helping out a friend, I did this. It could be good for a number of things including: Creating cursors Creating transparent GIFs etc.. in the messagebox: go URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altMakeTrans.rev; altMakeTransparent This is a small demo stack which has a neat function which can make a specific color transparent in an image. The demo makes all white pixels transparent. The function is in the script of the button, Make White Transparent -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT : PearPC
Chipp, Thank you for the compliments. I can't tell you how much I appreciate that coming from you. The MacOS X port is coming along, but it's difficult trying to remember some of the differences between Mac and Windows. :) The funny thing is that I grew up on a Mac. I am working on a Linux port, but until 2.5.1 I was not ready to distribute it. My hopes now are to release 2.7 on all 3 platforms. Hopefully that will help in my attempts for donations towards a Mac Mini. So again, thank you. Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress Images Easily with JPEGCompress 2.6.1 http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ Chipp Walters wrote: Derek, I just downloaded your JPEGCompress application. Very professional and what a wonderful set of features. I like it! You should definitely port to Mac and Linux. best, Chipp Derek Bump wrote: So thank you to who ever it was that brought up this topic. I will now be able to bring JPEGCompress to Mac OS X (well, provided that Rev will work after it's downloaded). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quick Demo stack for creating Transpanrecy effect.
Chipp, one more question : have you tried to use the replace function for groups of 4 bytes in the imagedata to speed up things, instead of checking binary values in the imagedata and then setting each byte of the alphadata ? best, JB Helping out a friend, I did this. It could be good for a number of things including: Creating cursors Creating transparent GIFs etc.. in the messagebox: go URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altMakeTrans.rev; altMakeTransparent This is a small demo stack which has a neat function which can make a specific color transparent in an image. The demo makes all white pixels transparent. The function is in the script of the button, Make White Transparent -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Tiger again
Not that the workaround isn't good enough for now, but I still have a very weird problem displaying a stack with a windowShape properly, and it just gets weirder! I have a stack with an windowshape, that was the only thing not perfect after I installed Tiger. Gordy has seen screenshots and apparently duplicated the problem and made suggestions (thanks again!), but what worked was repairing permissions, shutting down for several minutes and then restarting. What is even stranger now is that the problem still crops up if I reboot my machine and open the standalone without having first opened the stack in question (from the package contents of the standalone) in Rev ! What in the heck can this mean? I have now repeated the process a few times, and it is always the same - boot up, open standalone - weird shape. Open stack in Rev - weird shape! Boot up, open stack in Rev - correct shape. Open standalone - correct shape I have rev and Tiger in both of my machines. I guess my question is as follows: should I trash rev on backup machine, restart and open the standalone to test this? Does anyone have a good guess as to what would happen if someone else opened this standalone on a machine that never had Rev installed? Anyone else have windowshape problems after installing Tiger? It seems so odd that everything else works like a charm. I am following all of the problems with Tiger in the Apple discussion boards and trying everything that others have had bad experiences with in Tiger, so far everything, and I do mean everything, has been smooth as silk in Tiger - just this one little peice of strangeness! Ideas appreciated! Cheers, Lars ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: don`t piss me off
At 18:46 04/05/2005, you wrote: Hi Frank Dear Mr. X; I downloaded rev, to try it out!! and they asked me, if i wanted some email. (very little. as it was put to me)!! and i haven`t even opened the file to try it out yet!! and i seem to be getting hundreds of e mails in my box every day!!! and half are repeats. i am not happy about this! i am sorry to single you out, but I noticed your name as frequent as anyones . please tell me how to stop this maddness. nothing personal toward you! but i am only allowd 2 meg in my email box. and my friends can`t even send me a messege, because my box is so full with this stuff. is there any way you can help me? Don't worry. You can have two or three options. 1) unsubscribe from the list 2) use the digest mode like Heather suggested. 3) Get a new email account. There are many free services but the one I use for Armbase is simple and cheap. You can get a domain, for example frankknox.com is available and simply get mail from www.purplecloud.net for 4pounds/year and that oncludes webmail. The Support from James and the lads at PC.net is excellent. If they have any downtime, eg 10 hours. They up your mail/web allocation for free. Then, if you use a PC I would recommend something like mailwasherPro that you can use to delete unwanted mail serverside; or indeed simply use webmail via PC.net and delete them. Having multiple mailboxes on a hosting package allows you to selectively download you mail. IE my mail address is bob@ however I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] and can leave that until I require the download. I think that i won`t be interested in this product at all, if this keeps up! I am not in some office just waiting to here about the next move on the pc, for the day. i was thinking about learning how to program my own software! i am a physically disabled vietnam vet, just trying to learn how to get by in todays world. can you give me any advice on this subject? i am just a poor ole farm boy, who don`t even understand what they are talking about, most of the time. i am only trying to learn! if people don`t piss me off! too bad, too soon!but take my word for it .nothing to do with you as to why i am upset! I guess i just needed someone to vent to.and again I am sorry about that, but i am just getting irritated about the emails. sorry to take it out on you! but i thought you might be able to help me, or set me on to the right track, on who to talk to. OK runrev is simple to use really simple. My first app was a file transfer app that directory walked and found all my microscope files and moved them from one server to my desk-machine. have a look http://www.gla.ac.uk/~rh82p/confocal.jpg And have a look at the rev file. Download it from http://www.gla.ac.uk/~rh82p/ I did this in a day-2days without EVER programming anything before (NOTE: with the help of Klaus and Sarah and others on the list). All the best in the future Bob PLEASE HELP ME I am willing to learn, and want to learn but these people are overwellming me!!!i am sorry . i cant spell either!! can ya help me? thanks for letting me vent to you. i hope you don`t hold it against me personably either. THANKS AGAIN! FRANK KNOX -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.4 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.4 - Release Date: 04/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
FineTune searching
Hi troops, As part of a genealogy project, I needed a search that could be more or less specific (and so give more or fewer matches) depending on the User's selection of 'Narrow, Wide, Wider'. How have others resolved this? function booleanMatch fineTuneLevel,tStr,tSrcString --| Param fineTuneLevel: 1 = exact phrase, 2 = all words [AND], 3 = any string [OR] if fineTuneLevel =1 then # Whole match... if num of words of tStr=1 then put (tStr is among the words of tSrcString OR\ tStr is among the tokens of tSrcString) into isMATCH else put tStr is in tSrcString into isMATCH else # Partial match... repeat for each word w in tStr if fineTuneLevel =2 then -- by Word put (w is among the words of tSrcString OR\ w is among the tokens of tSrcString) CR after isMATCH else -- by String put (w is in tSrcString) CR after isMATCH # Each string end if end repeat end if if TRUE is not in isMATCH then return FALSE if (fineTuneLevel is in 1,2) AND (FALSE is in isMATCH) then return FALSE else return TRUE end booleanMatch /H Hugh Senior The Flexible Learning Company Web: _www.FlexibleLearning.com_ (http://www.flexiblelearning.com/) E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) T/F: +44(0)1483.27 87 27 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Frozen Accidents
There is software that does writing with 'Gestures'. If you move the mouse/trackball in different movements it will 'write' text for you. I can't remember the name right now though. I would absolutely love a tablet Mac OSX with touch screen. I have used pen input and speech input/recognition for a while and they are ok but I don't use them much. I do use a pen for drawing and sketching though. TOm On May 4, 2005, at 2:25 PM, Rob Cozens wrote: Xavier, I'll buy your argument as soon as you can show me a trackball incorporating handwriting recognition.., Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another STANDALONE query, I'm afraid
Specifies which main stack a substack belongs to. set the mainStack of stack to mainStack set the mainStack of this stack to Central set the mainStack of stack Hello to Goodbye HTH TOm On May 4, 2005, at 2:55 PM, John Ridge wrote: I now understand how to build a Standalone that saves data in a stack - first make a stub stack, and then create your real stack as a substack, and set the standalone options to treat it as a .rev file, so that the standalone user can save to it. My problem is that before I appreciated this, I had created a large stack as a mainstack. Now I want to make it a substack of a new stub stack. How do I do this? I hope it's a really simple question that I just can't see the answer to... -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas J. McGrath III SCS 1000 Killarney Dr. Pittsburgh, PA 15234 412-885-8541 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: don`t piss me off
Dear Mr. X; I downloaded rev, to try it out!! and they asked me, if i wanted some email. (very little. as it was put to me)!! and i haven`t even opened the file to try it out yet!! and i seem to be getting hundreds of e mails in my box every day!!! and half are repeats. i am not happy about this! i am sorry to single you out, but I noticed your name as frequent as anyones . please tell me how to stop this maddness. nothing personal toward you! but i am only allowd 2 meg in my email box. and my friends can`t even send me a messege, because my box is so full with this stuff. is there any way you can help me? I think that i won`t be interested in this product at all, if this keeps up! I am not in some office just waiting to here about the next move on the pc, for the day. i was thinking about learning how to program my own software! i am a physically disabled vietnam vet, just trying to learn how to get by in todays world. can you give me any advice on this subject? i am just a poor ole farm boy, who don`t even understand what they are talking about, most of the time. i am only trying to learn! if people don`t piss me off! too bad, too soon!but take my word for it .nothing to do with you as to why i am upset! I guess i just needed someone to vent to.and again I am sorry about that, but i am just getting irritated about the emails. sorry to take it out on you! but i thought you might be able to help me, or set me on to the right track, on who to talk to. PLEASE HELP ME I am willing to learn, and want to learn but these people are overwellming me!!!i am sorry . i cant spell either!! can ya help me? thanks for letting me vent to you. i hope you don`t hold it against me personably either. THANKS AGAIN! FRANK KNOX Hummm, This reminds some time back when I was with a email group you could sign up for email, and like here that also had a unsubscribe link more obvious than here and we had people emailing the group complaining about so many emails. Some would call the users names and yell at the incidence persons that joined. And their favorite statement Was UNSUBSCRIBE ME NOW like we could do something. Well I hope this is an isolated incident and not a common problem. Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://ps1.SoftSeven.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
Xavier, It's true, you can implement object-oriented concepts in Transcript, but that doesn't make it an object-oriented language. You can write OO code in C - just implement C++ first and go from there, but that doesn't make C an OO environment. The argument that you can get many of the benefits (and take some of the same tactics) in Rev as with true OO environments has merit, IMO, but saying that Revolution is OO is just taking liberty with the definition of Object-Oriented. Sure if you reinterpret the term based on what you think it should mean, you end up in one place- but if you associate OO with it's strict definition you're up a creek. - Brian Im sick of this non-sense - no offense to you Mickey... Object oriented technology is just any way to refer semantically via a programming language to operate on generic objects or objects derived from those. RR doesn't have a memory model but it's possible to create it with easy commands. And I'll quote Grady Booch it is therefore the task of the developer to distribute such behaviors so that they may be combined in interesting ways, giving rise to the 'self-maintaining fire' that is the mark of a profound oo architecture. Pg 167 The Best of Booch (Sigs Reference Library - Cambridge Univ. Press) Patterns, templates, polymorph*, abstraction, classes and all the rest are just a matter of imagination or interpretation. If the engine doesn't support the abstraction, you write it. If they dont support polimorph*, you branch it. ez! In Forth, it's like in C, you add a layer ++. Java, and others have it... RunRev - doesn't have the abstraction? They do, but they is literally no array handling to speak of compared to other mainstream languages. It's nice to keep things easy but it makes the use and adaptability very weak IMOHO. Sorry, it's reality... In forth or c you could develop libraries to handle arrays with little performance hits. In RunRev, it's another story... With one exception... If a background behavior group is considered a class, and a card in this group is an object then you jump one step ahead of any other environment. So... That's the TAOO object model base for data storage. It also works in SQL or any other classic memory storage (arrays, folder/files, FMP layouts, etc...) My 2 TAOOcentric cents... Critiques are welcome naturally! Cheers Xav http://monsieurx.com/taoo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Canyon Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 16:44 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: To Rev or not to Rev On May 2, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: On May 2, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: I'm not sure how to catalog Forth, but it's not OO (inherently -- there are OO implementations). It's procedural, certainly, but the inherent stack gives it a definite functional feel. Forth is not really a high level language any more than assembler is. It is an alternative machine language based on a double stack architecture. There have been hardware implementations of Forth as the native machine instruction set. When emulated, the Code just consists of a list of addresses to the actual machine code for the native functions, or addresses of higher level defined function (uses a flag bit to tell which). This makes it execute much faster than byte code. You can implement a higher level language within the syntax of Forth because of its extensible nature. Words are defined from other words in an interpretive environment. Because of the double stack architecture, data arguments are passed and returned on one stack and return addresses are in the other stack. It makes a very efficient and powerful architecture for developing real time machine controllers with a tiny amount of memory. You are free to define words that implement an OO environment if you choose. You could even create Rev using this as the lower level P code, or an operating system for that matter. I understand how Forth works. I'm just not sure how I would categorize it. On further reflection, I would say that Forth is functional in about the same way that Revolution is Object-Oriented. In other words, loosely. ;-) I disagree that Forth is no more high-level than assembler is. The built-in extensibility of Forth syntax makes it much more than just a convenient way of handling machine language. gc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Linux/Unix folder paths
Hello all you Linux/Unix gurus out there, I was hoping someone would be able to tell me a few things about where such systems put various types of files. Where so you store preferences? I see that the specialFolderPath() function is Windows Mac only, so how would I know where to store preferences on a Linux system? Where should an application be installed? And what if I want the application to be available to a particular user only e.g. on my Mac OS X system, I have /Applications for apps that everyone can use and /Users/sarah/Applications for apps that only I can use. The second is better if I need to write to the application folder as the user has write access to that folder even if not an admin user (at least I think that is correct). TIA, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
This BZ on arrays would be a welcome enhancement, but it would not improve the speed of processing arrays. I was thinking along the lines of a high speed array processing instruction subset. They would be less flexible than what we have now --the nice flexible data types, dynamic memory allocation, and flexible key names are what costs the operators so much time to execute. Just let me define the dimensions and data size for a fixed memory allocation and provide operators that work on fixed data types. It should fly through the array calculations at least ten times faster. I just entered a BZ request for it. If you agree, vote. BZ# 2813 Dennis On May 4, 2005, at 3:13 PM, MisterX wrote: the question mark made it red!!! http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555 works better ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 21:08 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: To Rev or not to Rev Gordon Webster wrote: I totally agree with Dennis. Efficient arrays are the missing link in rev. http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another STANDALONE query, I'm afraid
I now understand how to build a Standalone that saves data in a stack - first make a stub stack, and then create your real stack as a substack, and set the standalone options to treat it as a .rev file, so that the standalone user can save to it. My problem is that before I appreciated this, I had created a large stack as a mainstack. Now I want to make it a substack of a new stub stack. How do I do this? I hope it's a really simple question that I just can't see the answer to... Make your Stub stack as a sub stack of your current main Stack, which I will call Main for this example. Go through all the sub-stacks in Main and use the popup button in the Basic section of the Stack Inspector to set their mainStack to Stub. Now set the mainStack of Main to Stub. If Main contains a lot of scripts that you want all sub stacks to be able to use, you can copy them all to Stub, but I prefer to keep the splash screen stack almost empty, so I prefer enabling Main as library stack with: start using stack Main HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Hi Chipp, Franz, Alex and all! Thanks for your replys. Even though the tips for Win are useful they don´t really help at the moment, as I need to use a Mac with OsX. I´ll bookmark them anyway, just in case. ;-) The suggestion by Alex to set up FTP sounds good, but I have no idea how to do it. A quick goole search leads me to nowhere. Anyone an idea/link to a tutorial on how to set up an FTP server on Mac Os X? Thanks, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
Be aware to see how combining the repeat for each statement (read-only) and the rev two-dimmensions arrays can be very usefull and fast running, lots faster than many well formated SQL queries, for an exemple... Hope this can help, This BZ on arrays would be a welcome enhancement, but it would not improve the speed of processing arrays. I was thinking along the lines of a high speed array processing instruction subset. They would be less flexible than what we have now --the nice flexible data types, dynamic memory allocation, and flexible key names are what costs the operators so much time to execute. Just let me define the dimensions and data size for a fixed memory allocation and provide operators that work on fixed data types. It should fly through the array calculations at least ten times faster. I just entered a BZ request for it. If you agree, vote. BZ# 2813 Dennis On May 4, 2005, at 3:13 PM, MisterX wrote: the question mark made it red!!! http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555 works better ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 21:08 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: To Rev or not to Rev Gordon Webster wrote: I totally agree with Dennis. Efficient arrays are the missing link in rev. http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
On 5/4/05 10:32 AM, MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im sick of this non-sense - no offense to you Mickey... Xavier... you *really* have to let up on the c key when responding... The gentleman's name is Mikey, not Mickey, and he has said that to you multiple times. My suggestion would be that when you respond to his posts, that you double-check your spelling before you submit it... otherwise you will continue to offend him. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Quick Demo stack for creating Transpanrecy effect.
On 5/4/05 3:09 PM, jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done that before : setting transparent pixels, replacing colors in an image, etc. Have you managed to create transparent pixels in an image, but *not* ones of the same color that are in an enclosed region (i.e. leave those opaque)? For example, if you have a circle that is white on the inside and white in the surrounding area of the bounds of the image rectangle, setting only those white pixels *outside* the circle as transparent... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
Pierre, I am quite aware of these, and that is what I want to run 10 times faster than. However, a lot can be done with the repeat for each more quickly than other Rev methods, but it can only be used with a single named array at a time. I have entered a BZ request for an additional sequential array access method to give repeat for each speeds to any number of arrays at the same time. If you would like to see this, cast your vote for BZ# 2773 Dennis On May 4, 2005, at 7:42 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Be aware to see how combining the repeat for each statement (read- only) and the rev two-dimmensions arrays can be very usefull and fast running, lots faster than many well formated SQL queries, for an exemple... Hope this can help, This BZ on arrays would be a welcome enhancement, but it would not improve the speed of processing arrays. I was thinking along the lines of a high speed array processing instruction subset. They would be less flexible than what we have now --the nice flexible data types, dynamic memory allocation, and flexible key names are what costs the operators so much time to execute. Just let me define the dimensions and data size for a fixed memory allocation and provide operators that work on fixed data types. It should fly through the array calculations at least ten times faster. I just entered a BZ request for it. If you agree, vote. BZ# 2813 Dennis On May 4, 2005, at 3:13 PM, MisterX wrote: the question mark made it red!!! http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555 works better ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 21:08 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: To Rev or not to Rev Gordon Webster wrote: I totally agree with Dennis. Efficient arrays are the missing link in rev. http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=555? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 http://www.sahores-conseil.com/ WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP Mutualiser les deltas de productivité ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Ok folks, I´m dumb. system preferences-Sharing-check ftp Thanks Björnke! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: FineTune searching
Hugh- Here's my take on what you presented: function booleanMatch fineTuneLevel, pStr, pSrcString local blnReturn -- turn multiple lines into a stream replace cr with space in pSrcString put false into blnReturn --| Param fineTuneLevel: -- 1 = exact phrase -- 2 = all words [AND] -- 3 = any string [OR] switch fineTuneLevel case 1 -- EXACT filter pSrcString with * pStr * put (pSrcString is not empty) into blnReturn break case 2 -- ALL repeat for each word w in pStr filter pSrcString with * w * end repeat put (pSrcString is not empty) into blnReturn break default -- ANY repeat for each word w in pStr if (w is in pSrcString) then put true into blnReturn -- no need to go on exit repeat end if end repeat end switch return blnReturn end booleanMatch -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Thanks for your replys. Even though the tips for Win are useful they don´t really help at the moment, as I need to use a Mac with OsX. I´ll bookmark them anyway, just in case. ;-) The suggestion by Alex to set up FTP sounds good, but I have no idea how to do it. A quick goole search leads me to nowhere. Anyone an idea/link to a tutorial on how to set up an FTP server on Mac Os X? Setting up an FTP server on Mac OS X is really complicated... Go to the sharing system prefs and check FTP Access :-) Take a note of the address that is then shown at the bottom of the window and that's what you can use to log in. However, I just use personal file sharing, with a Rev script like this using AppleScript to connect: tAddress is the IP address of the remote computer tUser is the name of a valid user on that remote computer who is allowed to log in tPass is their password put mount volume quote afp:// tAddress / tUser quote \ on server quote tAddress quote as user name \ quote tUser quote with password quote tPass quote into tScript do tScript as AppleScript Once you have done this, the remote computer's user folder appears on your desktop as an external drive and you can read write using the URL commands. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Thanks Sarah! (Did I mention I am dumb before? g) I like the applescript variant. This will simplify things a lot... Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux/Unix folder paths
Hi Sarah, On where to install applications on macs... the usage is to provide a disk image with the instruction to drag and drop the software in the /Applications folder, but to leave the user free to drag and drop the software wherever they want without it affecting performance in any way. You should be able to get the path to your application using: put the long id of this stack into tPath (at least that works for uncompiled stacks) Best, Marielle Where should an application be installed? And what if I want the application to be available to a particular user only e.g. on my Mac OS X system, I have /Applications for apps that everyone can use and /Users/sarah/Applications for apps that only I can use. The second is better if I need to write to the application folder as the user has write access to that folder even if not an admin user (at least I think that is correct). TIA, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
French list
Cher Dom, Merci pour l'info. J'ai jeté un oeil. Le trafic a l'air en descente douce, en effet. Domage, apparemment l'existence d'une liste française avait attiré des petits commerces désireux d'employer des revolutionarios. [Babelfish ;-): Thank you for information. I threw an eye. The traffic has the air in soft descent, indeed. Domage, apparently the existence of a French list had attracted small trade eager to employ revolutionarios.] I am afraid, I do not expect to be able to be a regular on the French list. I simply suffer from information overload. I am frankly unable to keep up with the messages on this US list (I have 1136 unread _digests_ in my mailbox). I am not a professional. I had some presence on the list this week because I really needed to take my mind away from some stuff at work. Otherwise, the only time I can afford to read the revolution emails or do some coding is at week-ends. Best is probably to accept Ro's invitation to post in foreign languages on the US list. Most of the posts are about code anyway and the code is always in transcript, which is understood by everybody on this list (see http://www.kenjikojima.com/runrev/handbook/index.html, for instance for terrific stacks hidden behind the japanese text). But, yes, babelfish translations are a reasonable request if we expect a vigilant moderation of this list. No shame to have when you write in another language anyway. Try, try, try, and keep on trying is the rule that must be followed to become an expert in anything. [W. Clement Stone] Amicalement, Marielle ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: To Rev or not to Rev
amen! I used to take Tom Pittman's advice for Compilit and use his notation for integers - % and they screamed with speed... and the old Hyperbasic XCMD generator had great array capabilities. I don't mind typing variables optionally if it speeds up things. sqb At 7:30 PM -0400 5/4/05, Dennis Brown wrote: This BZ on arrays would be a welcome enhancement, but it would not improve the speed of processing arrays. I was thinking along the lines of a high speed array processing instruction subset. They would be less flexible than what we have now --the nice flexible data types, dynamic memory allocation, and flexible key names are what costs the operators so much time to execute. Just let me define the dimensions and data size for a fixed memory allocation and provide operators that work on fixed data types. It should fly through the array calculations at least ten times faster. I just entered a BZ request for it. If you agree, vote. BZ# 2813 Dennis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RegEx Help--Across Lines
Just reviewed old posts and found this one about RegEx parsing HTML and cr (return) characters. I wanted to pass along a little trick I found useful to extract tables into tab delimited format. Premise: An HTML document is formatted with spaces and cr's for the benefit of the programmer. Basically the browser app ignores this white space in such a way that an HTML table will display correctly even with extra characters, such as multiple cr's, are sprinkled about. The (?s) is good for searching past cr's, but it can make a difference if you wish to end up with a single cr defining a table row, rather than 2 or 3 or 4 cr's. Also, this cr specific. One of my first steps is to replace cr with string . This makes the entire block of HTML text a single line and no need for (?s), It also makes spurious cr's easily identifiable by subsequent search commands, not to mention easily visible when checking your results. BBEdit in softwrap mode allows you to see all of the text even without the returns. Of course, you could simply replace cr with in htmlTextBlock and there is no need for (?s) either. The browser will display the same page, with or without the returns present. As I mine data from HTML I find it useful to re-establish cr's at specific points, thus the replacement allows me to reinsert cr's where desired and use loops that repeat for the number of lines for patterned data blocks. Further MMM[M]+ will locate all or longer, no matter how many cr's were in a row, using get matchChunk(temp,(MMM[M]+), startChar, endChar) == 4 to howevermany -thus-- put fld htmlTextToParse into temp put z into startChar repeat until startChar = -- note: the startChar and endChar vars do not have to be defined before matchChunk get matchChunk(temp,(MMM[M]+), startChar, endChar) --you have to use parens in the regex string put return into char startChar to endChar of temp put return startChar , endChar after temp --for demo purposes only end repeat put return startChar, endChar list after temp --for demo purposes only put temp -- view the replacement, and the char list at the bottom ---will convert a run of cr's to a single cr. Nested tables can be problematic, but I find that this technique allows me to establish my true output cr's in the cacophony of HTML source code formatting. Hope this helps those who need to learn a bit more about the power of RegEx and Rev Jim Ault Las Vegas On 11/20/04 8:20 PM, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Rev to repurpose old html to new CSS compliant mark up. The old pages are incredibly inconsistent. Fortunately grep is our friend.. I need a grep expression that will pass out the content from both #1: title some title /title and #2 title some title /title where the first instance has no line break but the second one does Use the (?s) directive: on mouseUp local tTitle put titlesome titlecr/title into tXML get matchText(tXML,(?s)title(.*?)/title,tTItle) put tTitle end mouseUp Note that you'll get the trailing CR after some title as well, so you'd have to strip that out if you want to. Check the docs at http://www.prce.org/man.txt - the ?s directive corresponts to PCRE_DOTALL, which causes the . character to match all characters, including newlines (CRs). HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
