Re: The seconds and time zones
Hang on :-) I seem to remember Jacques saying recently that she'd found that the internet date was more reliable across time zones than storing seconds. I'm sure Jacques will be along soon to give us details or tell me (ever so politely) that I'm wrong. Bernard On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: Sarah, Thanks for confirming it. Slick. Bill On Jan 25, 2010, at 9:36 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: I want to represent time snapshot independently of format and time zone so that I can compare the modification times of two items. The seconds looks like the way to go but I thought that it would get thrown off depending upon which time zone the computer was in. I just saw this in the Rev dictionary: Note: The convert command assumes all dates / times are in local time except for 'the seconds', which is taken to be universal time. Does this mean that if I get the seconds simultaneously anywhere in the world it will result in the same number or would I have to account for the time zone offset. This definition makes it sound like it already takes into account the time zone offset. Correct. The seconds taken at an instant in time will give the same result no matter where you are and what time zone you are in. Converting it to any other format then applies the time zone of the computer doing the conversions. As an example, my time zone is +1000 and at the moment, using this line of script, I get: put the seconds cr the long time the long date 1264484095 3:34:55 PM Tuesday, January 26, 2010 If you take that value of seconds and convert it, you will get whatever time it was in your zone when it was 3:34 for me. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question on RevMobile
This is like a Kay Back Machine, right :-) I have some OS/2 books I can send you so they can start working on Revolution for OS/2. http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Bernard On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone wants Rev 4.0 Linux or Classic engines please email me off-list to persuade me spend time and money to go down that path - Rev will then make an announcement 2 weeks later ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML Editor
I had to shout out Thank you, Eric last week (to the bemusement of the assembled company). I was trying to create a popup menu within a field, whilst maintaining the selection within the field, and it just seemed impossible. I searched the list and there was Eric with the surprisingly simple answer that only a guru would know. Bernard On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:04 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Also Eric Chatonet* has a good demo stack to go from and to from rev htmlText. (* yes I know he's gone, but his site is still up and his utilities I use every day.. ) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question on RevMobile
wait for my books on BeOS and the NewtonOS... Revolution will be ubiquitous... On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: This is like a Kay Back Machine, right :-) I have some OS/2 books I can send you so they can start working on Revolution for OS/2. http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Bernard On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone wants Rev 4.0 Linux or Classic engines please email me off-list to persuade me spend time and money to go down that path - Rev will then make an announcement 2 weeks later ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
Be careful with the spelling ! Jacques has a beard, smokes pipe, likes brussel sprouts (oups, sorry) and is definitively different from Jacque... But I can nevertheless say that I did set my computer (Mac OS X) to different time zones and the seconds didn't change accordingly... they seem trustable within a computer. Jacques Le 26 janv. 2010 à 13:36, Bernard Devlin a écrit : Hang on :-) I seem to remember Jacques saying recently that she'd found that the internet date was more reliable across time zones than storing seconds. I'm sure Jacques will be along soon to give us details or tell me (ever so politely) that I'm wrong. Bernard On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: Sarah, Thanks for confirming it. Slick. Bill On Jan 25, 2010, at 9:36 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: I want to represent time snapshot independently of format and time zone so that I can compare the modification times of two items. The seconds looks like the way to go but I thought that it would get thrown off depending upon which time zone the computer was in. I just saw this in the Rev dictionary: Note: The convert command assumes all dates / times are in local time except for 'the seconds', which is taken to be universal time. Does this mean that if I get the seconds simultaneously anywhere in the world it will result in the same number or would I have to account for the time zone offset. This definition makes it sound like it already takes into account the time zone offset. Correct. The seconds taken at an instant in time will give the same result no matter where you are and what time zone you are in. Converting it to any other format then applies the time zone of the computer doing the conversions. As an example, my time zone is +1000 and at the moment, using this line of script, I get: put the seconds cr the long time the long date 1264484095 3:34:55 PM Tuesday, January 26, 2010 If you take that value of seconds and convert it, you will get whatever time it was in your zone when it was 3:34 for me. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of Lausanne CH 1015 Lausanne please use my private address: 6 route de Burtigny CH-1269 Bassins tel/fax:++ 41 22 366 19 40 mobile: ++ 41 79 757 05 24 E-Mail: jacques.haus...@unil.ch *** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[Ann] Build your own games
Hi all, As you know my company has been writing games for quite a while. Using our animationEngine, we have been able to create fast, fun, award-winning games using Revolution. However, recent changes in our business plan do not leave enough time to continue our game efforts. Most revenue comes from health care software, so the other guys of derbrill will focus mainly on that. I will remain your contact person for all things revolution related. In my endeavors as a rev consultant I will set up a few new ideas to move things forward. What does this mean? As we move out of games creation, we want to make it easy for others to take our place! http://www.awesomemegamightygames.com/pages/en/games/get-the-source.php Starting today, we are offering a source-code, heavily commented version of drops! We will let you build your own version of our games. Our first release is drops!, our bestseller game. You may obtain a license to the sources for an introductory price of $59 ($79 as of Feb. 14th). All the best, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
Yes. The seconds returns the number of seconds since Jan 1, 1970. And this is in GMT, or standard universal time. So any computer anywhere will always read the same number of seconds, provided their own time is correct. With that you can perform identical calculations as needed. craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Ann] Build your own games
Nifty idea.. now people like me can see how things work and either put in features we always wanted or to get a piece of our own puzzle working.. -Sean ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Gets Better PDF Docs, Enhanced Scratch Pad Editing (video)
Kay, Go to http://reveditor.com and click on the Quickstart link on the right side of the page. I don't know what link you are using, but I did have to change the URL once last week. Your page may need refreshing. You can also go to the docs from the help menu in the latest tRev. Best, Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/write-your-own-plugins-for-trev On Jan 25, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: Hi Jerry, followed the iWork link and got: Enter your Apple ID and password to view this document. Your Apple ID must be entered in lowercase. Document doesn't exist. Document password is incorrect, or the document is no longer available. Continue The document you requested doesn't exist or is no longer active. H, and that's really interesting. I just copied and pasted the dialog text from the iWork site to here so I'd get the text absolutely correct, yet on the dialog I can see only the first and last line above, the bit in the middle magically appeared when I pasted into here. Outcome is the same though, I can't check out your new and improved pdfs. Thanks On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: tRev users, We have just updated the documentation for tRev to accomodate the new Scratch Pad feature with its new window style and multi-instance architecture. Here's the link to a page with links to the Quickstart guide and the Shortcuts. http://reveditor.com/trev-quickstart-shortcuts-now-on-iworkcom These nice little PDFs are hosted on iWork.com and view really well, let you download them or print them. Best of all, there is no log-in of any sort required. We've also enhanced the Scratch Pad editing process so that it's done directly--without the inconvenience of a separate editor. I have a super-short video showing how to edit and annotate your links in the Scratch Pad. Here's the link: http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-enhancement Best, Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/scratch-pad-links-to-your-fav-handlers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Ann] Build your own games
for example, replace that damn cheating code that Malte put there so that you'd have a special bonus oportunity but it always happens with the most difficult colors and the ones you have less... On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: Nifty idea.. now people like me can see how things work and either put in features we always wanted or to get a piece of our own puzzle working.. -Sean ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Ann] Build your own games
Andre wrote: for example, replace that damn cheating code that Malte put there so that you'd have a special bonus oportunity but it always happens with the most difficult colors and the ones you have less... Lol. You figured it out. :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Ann] Build your own games
Yes I figured it out when it appeared to me and I saw you grinning :D On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Malte Pfaff-Brill revolut...@derbrill.dewrote: Andre wrote: for example, replace that damn cheating code that Malte put there so that you'd have a special bonus oportunity but it always happens with the most difficult colors and the ones you have less... Lol. You figured it out. :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [Ann] Build your own games
Thanks Malte Showing every aspect of creating a commercial application in Rev alone is worth the money and then to provide the code, artwork sounds too plus allowing people to use it royalty free to make their own version of the game is as good as it gets. You got my money! -=JB=- On Jan 26, 2010, at 6:08 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: Hi all, As you know my company has been writing games for quite a while. Using our animationEngine, we have been able to create fast, fun, award-winning games using Revolution. However, recent changes in our business plan do not leave enough time to continue our game efforts. Most revenue comes from health care software, so the other guys of derbrill will focus mainly on that. I will remain your contact person for all things revolution related. In my endeavors as a rev consultant I will set up a few new ideas to move things forward. What does this mean? As we move out of games creation, we want to make it easy for others to take our place! http://www.awesomemegamightygames.com/pages/en/games/get-the- source.php Starting today, we are offering a source-code, heavily commented version of drops! We will let you build your own version of our games. Our first release is drops!, our bestseller game. You may obtain a license to the sources for an introductory price of $59 ($79 as of Feb. 14th). All the best, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: The seconds and time zones
Jacques Hausser (who is not Jacque) wrote: But I can nevertheless say that I did set my computer (Mac OS X) to different time zones and the seconds didn't change accordingly... they seem trustable within a computer. The engine's internal clock is initialized when the engine starts up, so if you quit before you change your time zone the seconds will be reliable for comparisons across time zones. Here's a quick test I just did to verify this: At 7:01AM PST I got these values: Seconds: 1264518037 Internet Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:01:02 -0800 Then I quit Rev, opened my System Control Panel, changed my location to Brisbane AU, restarted Rev, and got these: Seconds: 1264518145 Internet Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:02:09 +1000 While the difference in global time is several hours, the difference in the seconds is merely 108, roughly the amount of time I spent quitting and changing my system's location. FWIW, I also tried this without quitting Rev in between, and apparently it does not update the time zone until you restart. So it appears the seconds are indeed useful for comparing times and dates across time zones, provided the time zone does not change while the engine is running. Personally, I prefer the Internet date format because it's human-readable. It also works at the same level of granularity (seconds) but carries the additional benefit of storing the time zone it was acquired in. The latter may not be useful for many apps, but I have one case where I need to know where people are in addition to when they perform a given action, and having the GMT offset embedded in the string helps me narrow that down. There is an unfortunate implication with this: because the engine needs to be restarted to update the GMT offset of its internal clock, this means that automatic changes to time zones like moving from PST to PDT will be ignored by the engine. Anyone know if there's an RQCC request for that? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
I'll be glad if Jacque (no s) confirms this. It will make my life easier. I was sure she had recommended internet date. Bernard On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:12 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Yes. The seconds returns the number of seconds since Jan 1, 1970. And this is in GMT, or standard universal time. So any computer anywhere will always read the same number of seconds, provided their own time is correct. With that you can perform identical calculations as needed. craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5
Hello Folks, anyone here has a clue on how to recover from a corrupted stack. Rev 4.5.0-dp-1 refuses to open it but Rev 4.0 loves it just like I do. don't want to revert to a previous version of the stack or of rev if possible, anyone knows how to solve this? Thanks in advance anre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
On Jan 26, 2010, at 7:18 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: There is an unfortunate implication with this: because the engine needs to be restarted to update the GMT offset of its internal clock, this means that automatic changes to time zones like moving from PST to PDT will be ignored by the engine. Anyone know if there's an RQCC request for that? My guess for the better solution is not to rely on a user's computer settings but find the time-server.com ping solution that works best for you and your clients. This would capture the daylight savings change regardless of the user's computer setting. The usual cautions with this are -1- Europe does not alway change the same week as the US -2- Each county in the US gets to decide whether to change time, and in which direction. eg. Indiana in the USA, some counties match Chicago, others Cincinnati, OH and others choose not to change at all. I used to live in a county that never changed its clock. It was a farming community that did not care to change. I haven't done the digging, but I did use the atomic clock server in a project about 4 years ago. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
Jacques Hausser wrote: Be careful with the spelling ! Jacques has a beard, smokes pipe, likes brussel sprouts (oups, sorry) and is definitively different from Jacque... I'm getting a beard too, but I pluck it out. No pipe though. It wasn't me that mentioned the internet time, I think it was Richard. But if it works, then of course I'll be happy to take credit. If it doesn't, it's Richard's fault. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5
Long ago in Hypercard I built a stack that opens a damaged stack and pulls as much as possible out of it and into a second stack. I'd create each card, and then create each button and field, and grab each attribute and script. Very tedious but it created a brand new exact duplicate. Whatever was bad in the original stack would go away in the new stack and for all practical purposes it was now a copy, only it worked. Just a thought. Kee On Jan 26, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hello Folks, anyone here has a clue on how to recover from a corrupted stack. Rev 4.5.0-dp-1 refuses to open it but Rev 4.0 loves it just like I do. don't want to revert to a previous version of the stack or of rev if possible, anyone knows how to solve this? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5
OMG, how funny it is that everybody has had the same issues at one point or another. I did the same thing...except I'm still using HC here for one application... On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:41, Kee Nethery k...@kagi.com wrote: Long ago in Hypercard I built a stack that opens a damaged stack and pulls as much as possible out of it and into a second stack. I'd create each card, and then create each button and field, and grab each attribute and script. Very tedious but it created a brand new exact duplicate. Whatever was bad in the original stack would go away in the new stack and for all practical purposes it was now a copy, only it worked. Just a thought. Kee On Jan 26, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hello Folks, anyone here has a clue on how to recover from a corrupted stack. Rev 4.5.0-dp-1 refuses to open it but Rev 4.0 loves it just like I do. don't want to revert to a previous version of the stack or of rev if possible, anyone knows how to solve this? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Spinning whell
Hello, I have uploaded my first contribution for the community on RevOnline : Spinning wheel : a [white] Asynchronous Progress Indicator Macintosh X interface... Bons souvenirs de Paris René___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5
Andre Garzia wrote: anyone here has a clue on how to recover from a corrupted stack. Rev 4.5.0-dp-1 refuses to open it but Rev 4.0 loves it just like I do. don't want to revert to a previous version of the stack or of rev if possible, anyone knows how to solve this? I would email it to support. If it's opening in the shipping version of Rev but not in the DP it sounds like a bug, and corruption is rare enough with Rev that I would imagine it would get priority. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
is the platform on 64bit windows systems also win32?
Hi, I just wonder if this is actually so, as stated above? Actually I havn't thought about this up to now and just got a bit unsure, because I also haven't found an answer in the archives. Can anybody confirm my presumption because I don't have a 64Bit system on hand. Thank you Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5
It is not regression, it was working fine on 4.5 then, after a save, close and reopen, it stopped working saying it was corrupted. I tried loading on 4.0 to see if it was indeed corrupted, it worked fine but it stopped loading on 4.5. I use mercurial to manage my source code, so I reverted back to some revisions ago and it loaded, now I am recoding my morning work... sometimes rev is elusive. cheers for version control software. (with remote backups) On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Andre Garzia wrote: anyone here has a clue on how to recover from a corrupted stack. Rev 4.5.0-dp-1 refuses to open it but Rev 4.0 loves it just like I do. don't want to revert to a previous version of the stack or of rev if possible, anyone knows how to solve this? I would email it to support. If it's opening in the shipping version of Rev but not in the DP it sounds like a bug, and corruption is rare enough with Rev that I would imagine it would get priority. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5
Hi Andre, good to hear you have a not too old backup As having worked for years with Toolbook I can say that we are really lucky with RunRev where stack corruption almost is an exotic phenomenon - I havn't had any yet. But with the older (up to two years ago) versions of Toolbook file corruption almost was an daily experience with repair trials by good luck... Cheers Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Andre Garzia Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Januar 2010 18:22 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5 It is not regression, it was working fine on 4.5 then, after a save, close and reopen, it stopped working saying it was corrupted. I tried loading on 4.0 to see if it was indeed corrupted, it worked fine but it stopped loading on 4.5. I use mercurial to manage my source code, so I reverted back to some revisions ago and it loaded, now I am recoding my morning work... sometimes rev is elusive. cheers for version control software. (with remote backups) On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Andre Garzia wrote: anyone here has a clue on how to recover from a corrupted stack. Rev 4.5.0-dp-1 refuses to open it but Rev 4.0 loves it just like I do. don't want to revert to a previous version of the stack or of rev if possible, anyone knows how to solve this? I would email it to support. If it's opening in the shipping version of Rev but not in the DP it sounds like a bug, and corruption is rare enough with Rev that I would imagine it would get priority. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: stack corrupted, loads on 4.0 but not on 4.5
Richard Gaskin wrote: Andre Garzia wrote: anyone here has a clue on how to recover from a corrupted stack. Rev 4.5.0-dp-1 refuses to open it but Rev 4.0 loves it just like I do. don't want to revert to a previous version of the stack or of rev if possible, anyone knows how to solve this? I would email it to support. If it's opening in the shipping version of Rev but not in the DP it sounds like a bug, and corruption is rare enough with Rev that I would imagine it would get priority. Actually, for something like this, don't email to support -- just put in a bug ticket. That's all the support queue could tell you to do. There aren't any engineers in the support queue, just us chickens. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
Bernard Devlin wrote: I'll be glad if Jacque (no s) confirms this. It will make my life easier. I was sure she had recommended internet date. Nope, it was Richard. But I guarantee that anything Sarah or Richard says about time calcs is correct. ;) Regarding the seconds: when I was hosting the scripting conferences I used to announce the time of the next meeting in seconds. I'd post the seconds to the list and anyone who wanted to attend would convert it to their own time and see just when they needed to be online. That was Sarah's idea and it worked just great. There was something satisfying also about using Rev to figure out when to meet to use Rev. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revlet updates don't clear the cache
When I update the Revlet and html files the browser (Safari on the Mac but maybe others too) still runs the old one in its cache even if I reload the page and quit Safari. The only way I can run the updated Revlet is the reset Safari cache from the Safari menu. Are there options to make this work better? I can't expect users to do this. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:12 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Bernard Devlin wrote: I'll be glad if Jacque (no s) confirms this. It will make my life easier. I was sure she had recommended internet date. Nope, it was Richard. But I guarantee that anything Sarah or Richard says about time calcs is correct. ;) Regarding the seconds: when I was hosting the scripting conferences I used to announce the time of the next meeting in seconds. I'd post the seconds to the list and anyone who wanted to attend would convert it to their own time and see just when they needed to be online. That was Sarah's idea and it worked just great. There was something satisfying also about using Rev to figure out when to meet to use Rev. This is all good to know. So, generally the seconds can be used, but there might be the most exceptional circumstances to do with daylight saving and reboots (and in cases where the international time at which something happened is so important than maybe one ought to be using an external source like Jim suggests). Good to know. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevLive09 DVD Set Session resources
RevList wrote: What I am saying is that I got the DVDs today and have been watching some of the sessions. Many of them use sample files that are no longer available on the web site links that are referenced in the videos. I would like to have these so that I can look at the scripts just as they did in the session. Stewart -- I've lost track of what the url should be and which files were on the server. I don't have a copy of the DVD to check, so could you contact me off list and we can figure it out? I know...I was an idiot. Go ahead and say it. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows menu bars
I need to open multiple documents that share the same menu bar. On Mac I can just set the default menubar. What do most of you do for Windows? I'm not too keen on putting up a toolbar like Rev does. Is there any other way? I think the answer is no but maybe some of you have an ingenius solution. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Presumably . . . 4.5 dp-1 ???
Presumably while those who attended the Edinburgh developers' conference recieved Studio 4.0 as part of the package that did not include further updates and developer previews? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for volunteers to create Wikipedia on CD application
2010/1/25 Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com David Bovill wrote: Not sure if it is any use - but I can offer code for reading and writing to WikiPedia from Rev - it is not a complete library - but a good start. Your code reads and write to Wikipedia. Did you use this code as an automatic bot for reverse vandalism in selected pages? I use it to move articles around between MediaWikis and provide additional tools that MediaWiki does not have. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Is a file an image?
I've just dug out this very old and pretty untested script for detecting whether a file is an image. Seems to sort of work on OSX - included here for insiration :) Does anyone know a better way to do this? function file_GetType filePath switch the platform case MacOS put spotlight_Kind (filePath) into fType return word -1 of fType case Win32 put offset(.,filePath) into tChar if tChar 0 then put char tChar to length(filePath) of filePath into text put queryregistry(HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\(queryregistry(HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\tExt \)) \) into tType else put into tType put into text end if if tType = then if text then delete char 1 of text -- remove . put toupper(tExt) File into tType else put File into tType end if end if return filePath numtochar(9) tType default return empty end switch end file_GetType function spotlight_Kind someFile put spotlight_GetAttribute(someFile, kMDItemKind) into someKind put word 1 to - 1 of someKind into someKind delete char 1 of someKind delete char -1 of someKind return someKind end spotlight_Kind function spotlight_GetAttribute someFile, attributeName put spotlight_FileInfo(someFile) into spotlightFileInfo return spotlight_ExtractAttribute(spotlightFileInfo, attributeName) end spotlight_GetAttribute function spotlight_FileInfo someFile put mdls into someShell if someFile is not empty then -- shell_BashParamEscape someFile put space someFile after someShell end if get shell(someShell) return line 2 to -1 of it end spotlight_FileInfo function spotlight_ExtractAttribute spotlightFileInfo, attributeName if char 1 to 7 of attributeName is not kMDItem then put kMDItem before attributeName put (?im) attributeName += +(.*) into someReg if matchtext(spotlightFileInfo, someReg, someValue) is true then return someValue else return empty end if end spotlight_ExtractAttribute ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
Did anyone comment on Mark Waddingham's time solution using iRev? http://runrev.com/newsletter/may/issue71/newsletter2.php I thought it was brilliant. Lots of great example stories in the issues of revUp. Unfortunately, they are not indexed or searchable, and it's a bear trying to find an old article. I only found this as it was deep within my own bookmarks. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2010/1/26 Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:12 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Bernard Devlin wrote: I'll be glad if Jacque (no s) confirms this. It will make my life easier. I was sure she had recommended internet date. Nope, it was Richard. But I guarantee that anything Sarah or Richard says about time calcs is correct. ;) Regarding the seconds: when I was hosting the scripting conferences I used to announce the time of the next meeting in seconds. I'd post the seconds to the list and anyone who wanted to attend would convert it to their own time and see just when they needed to be online. That was Sarah's idea and it worked just great. There was something satisfying also about using Rev to figure out when to meet to use Rev. This is all good to know. So, generally the seconds can be used, but there might be the most exceptional circumstances to do with daylight saving and reboots (and in cases where the international time at which something happened is so important than maybe one ought to be using an external source like Jim suggests). Good to know. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is a file an image?
If you're going to be making the judgment based on the extension, why don't you just put the possibilities in a switch/case statement and take care of it locally? -- Alex Adams hawkVision tools for solving Wicked Problems (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc. 831-726-8013 a...@a2tecnology.com www.a2technology.com www.promisstudio.com universalconnector.wordpress.com From: David Bovill da...@architex.tv Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:19:00 + To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Is a file an image? I've just dug out this very old and pretty untested script for detecting whether a file is an image. Seems to sort of work on OSX - included here for insiration :) Does anyone know a better way to do this? function file_GetType filePath switch the platform case MacOS put spotlight_Kind (filePath) into fType return word -1 of fType case Win32 put offset(.,filePath) into tChar if tChar 0 then put char tChar to length(filePath) of filePath into text put queryregistry(HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\(queryregistry(HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\tExt \)) \) into tType else put into tType put into text end if if tType = then if text then delete char 1 of text -- remove . put toupper(tExt) File into tType else put File into tType end if end if return filePath numtochar(9) tType default return empty end switch end file_GetType function spotlight_Kind someFile put spotlight_GetAttribute(someFile, kMDItemKind) into someKind put word 1 to - 1 of someKind into someKind delete char 1 of someKind delete char -1 of someKind return someKind end spotlight_Kind function spotlight_GetAttribute someFile, attributeName put spotlight_FileInfo(someFile) into spotlightFileInfo return spotlight_ExtractAttribute(spotlightFileInfo, attributeName) end spotlight_GetAttribute function spotlight_FileInfo someFile put mdls into someShell if someFile is not empty then -- shell_BashParamEscape someFile put space someFile after someShell end if get shell(someShell) return line 2 to -1 of it end spotlight_FileInfo function spotlight_ExtractAttribute spotlightFileInfo, attributeName if char 1 to 7 of attributeName is not kMDItem then put kMDItem before attributeName put (?im) attributeName += +(.*) into someReg if matchtext(spotlightFileInfo, someReg, someValue) is true then return someValue else return empty end if end spotlight_ExtractAttribute ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is a file an image?
I think you could write a XPlat solution by analyzing the first few bytes of the file. Those should contain some header information. Though I must admit I did not try that yet. Cheers, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows menu bars
2010/1/26 J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com: I need to open multiple documents that share the same menu bar. On Mac I can just set the default menubar. What do most of you do for Windows? I'm not too keen on putting up a toolbar like Rev does. Is there any other way? I think the answer is no but maybe some of you have an ingenius solution. Hi Jacque, Maybe I have all wrong. I confess that I just created a menu in Windows for the first time since your question. ;) I note that the menu is created in the top left of each stack and is managed by a menuPick handler. Here is what I could do to have this menu in each of my documents. This is purely theoretical. 1) Creating of a substack in my project (as a kind of library) where I could create the main menu 2) Creating a button with some script to handle my menu bar. 3) Creating a parentscript / behavior link between menu bar and its code in the button 4) At every opening of a new document, copy of my group menu in the new open stack. Provided of course that I have room in the top left Maybe it can help, perhaps not. I tried ;) -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re: [Ann] Build your own games
thanks JB! Hope you enjoy dissecting the sources. :-) All the best, Malte Thanks Malte Showing every aspect of creating a commercial application in Rev alone is worth the money and then to provide the code, artwork sounds too plus allowing people to use it royalty free to make their own version of the game is as good as it gets. You got my money! -=JB=- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevLive09 DVD Set Session resources
jac...@hyperactivesw.com on January 26, 2010 at 11:33 AM -0800 wrote: Stewart -- I've lost track of what the url should be and which files were on the server. I don't have a copy of the DVD to check, so could you contact me off list and we can figure it out? I know...I was an idiot. Go ahead and say it. :) No you aren't :) It seems that every presentation I have watched (and I have just started), the links either do not work or are not the what you would expect. I think someone at RunRev should go through all of the presentations and get the resources and put them all in one location and have them linked by presentation. Either that or bundle them all together and put them in a zip file for all of use who have purchased the DVD to get access to these very important resources. Here are just some that I have found and find frustrating. It seems that every session I watch refers to resources but it is not at all clear where to get them. For this DVD set to be useful to all of us, having simple and direct access to all of the resources is imperative. Would someone at RunRev please consolidate and let us know where to get all resources from a single location? Opening Session (Devin Assay) www.runrevlive.com/sessions/day0.zip gives an error Introduction to revWeb Plugin revlets (Ben Beaumont) www.runrevlive.com/sessions/revweb/runrevlive09-revweb.zip or www.runrevlive.com/sessions/revweb/step1.html Both produce errors Presenting Data with the Data Grid (Trevor DeVore) http://tr.im/data_grid Found the resource (I think) but get an error when loading intro_to_data_grid_starter.rev. It chokes on set the dgData of group Songs to empty This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the individual to whom they are addressed and it may contain information that is privileged or confidential. If you have received this communication by mistake, please notify us immediately. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and SnoLeo
I call bull***t! Bob On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: to save time, Snow Leopard doesn't quit programs the way it used to - it kills them. It checks to see if they have unsaved documents or un-backed-up preference setting changes first, of course. But if not, it issues a kill command to them, which terminates them instantly ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
stephen barncard wrote: Lots of great example stories in the issues of revUp. Unfortunately, they are not indexed or searchable, and it's a bear trying to find an old article. I only found this as it was deep within my own bookmarks. You can get some hints at http://www.runrev.com/developers/resources/newsletters/ and it would surely form the kernel of a web-scraping project to index the older newsletters . (H - another interesting project to do when I have some spare time - just what I needed :-) -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: Hang on :-) I seem to remember Jacques saying recently that she'd found that the internet date was more reliable across time zones than storing seconds. It all depends what you want :-) The seconds translates to a date time that depends on the time zone settings of the computer doing the conversion, so the same number will translate differently around the world. This may be what you need, but it is not always useful. I used to operate a series of kiosks in multiple time zones across Australia. They would send their reports back with time stamps. If I had used seconds, then the times would have been altered by the time they got to me, but I needed to know the times as they were at the kiosk. e.g. if a kiosk in Western Australia has a problem at 4 pm, when this gets to me, it gets translated to 6 pm. It was at 6 pm my time, but if I have to ring up someone on site, I need to tell them that the problem was at 4, not 6. So for me, using the seconds was not useful. The internet date is one alternative, but it doesn't account for daylight savings. I ended up using my own time stamp routines, with an AppleScript routine for working out daylight savings. To avoid all these issues, there is an enhancement request in the Rev QA http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4949 asking for the universal seconds which would be a number of seconds that was not affected in any way by the time zone of the converting computer. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is a file an image?
Taking a quick glimpse at Wikipedia suggests this should be pretty straightforward: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_%28programming%29#Magic_numbers_in_files Cheers, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Open Database On-Rev Examples?
Hi there, Does anyone have a good example of opening a MySQL database on On-Rev using a Rev stack on a local machine? I've looked at the documentation thus far, and found it to not be adequate. I just keep getting the following message, which I believe is telling me that it just didn't connect at all in the first place. Lost connection MySQL server during query I don't know if this a password permissions problem or path problem or what. Suggestions? Thanks in advance! Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for volunteers to create Wikipedia on CD application
Hi Mark, Mark Wieder wrote: Yeah, that was the one case I thought of where it might be useful to have a static, albeit somewhat outdated, snapshot of the data. Of course, considering that Wikipedia doesn't for the most part require broadband access where dialup would do, the following chart is probably more to the point: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm The key word is cost, not velocity. Talking with teachers from public schools, i have learned that many of their student's families could afford one computer for the whole family, (here exist an enormous market for second-hand computers) but these families could not pay the monthly cost of Internet service that starts at US$60 dollars for 256KB... Costly, as you noticed. Their economy allows these students to pay for an hour of internet access in an internet center for US$1 (one dolar) or more. In theory, every public school should have free internet access. In practice, the number of public schools with internet access is disminishing not increasing, although newspapers constantly publish news that said otherwise. (Just talk with the teachers and students) Two CD (for texts and images) will cost US$0.66 cents or less and could hold a whole encyclopedia. This is less than a single hour of internet access. (A single 4.5 Gb DVD could be still cheaper, but not everyone have a DVD reader in their computer) No matter how you calculate this. It's an economically sound decision to distribute the Wikipedia for offline use among public school students. Members of this community have the skills to build this project. The only remaining question is: Could we lend a hand to collectively create this project, as a gift from this community to students everywhere? Goals and direction should appear from consensus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus :-D For this project, I believe that we should be able to contribute with Password protected libraries, for specific functions or features. In this way, your code is protected but still available for use in this project. I could write some code and test the application in Windows XP and Vista. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Looking-for-volunteers-to-create-Wikipedia-on-CD-application-tp1288518p1311164.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] ssMacWindows 1.6.1
What is new --- - removed the automatic proxy menu support and added in custom handling this allows the proxy menu to be used in Rev 2.8 or greater (including 4.5.0-dp-1) allows for proxy icon drag and drop to be in Rev 2.8 or greater (including 4.5.0-dp-1) - added new callback message for the proxy menu ssProxyMenuOpened - added new callback messages for the title bar (after the proxy icon has been set) ssMouseDownInTitleBar, ssMouseUpInTitleBar - added new callback messages for existing commands in the external command - message ssHideFloatingWindows - ssFloatingWindowsHidden ssShowFloatingWindows - ssFloatingWindowsShown ssDisplaySwitchMode - ssDisplayModeSwitched ssDisplayRestoreMode - ssDisplayModeRestored What is coming -- - Trevor DeVore graciously donated replacement code for the Hot Key feature and it will be made free to use even in compiled applications - If I am able to get it working, I will offer custom drag data for the proxy icon drag/drop feature (right now it just drops the file path) - More externals thanks to: Malte Pfaff-Brill (of course I will now be busy making my own drops! clone ;-) Trevor DeVore (the source code and screen captures have helped _so_ much) Tereza Snyder (screen captures, links and fixes for the externals.h) Jeff McWard (my web host and bandwidth provider http://www.wehostmacs.com/ As always, get the newest version from my site http://shaosean.tk/ -Sean ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
Would an external work to suit these needs? It does not look overly complex and I can see about getting access to a Windows box to code for that platform.. Anyone willing to give me remote access to a Linux box to build an external for there? [anyone have an old Intel-based Mac they would like to donate so I can write externals for all three platform? worth a try ;-) ] -Sean ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: Would an external work to suit these needs? It does not look overly complex and I can see about getting access to a Windows box to code for that platform.. Anyone willing to give me remote access to a Linux box to build an external for there? [anyone have an old Intel-based Mac they would like to donate so I can write externals for all three platform? worth a try ;-) ] I don't know. I guess it would depend on how each system handled their dates times internally. However it's not worth it for me, since I now longer deal with some issues on a regular basis and I have all my time stamp routines worked out for if I do. Regards, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
it would depend on how each system handled their dates times internally. I was looking at the ANSI C time routines and they start from Jan 1, 1970 GMT and there are functions to convert from localized and non- localized times.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open Database On-Rev Examples?
Hi Rick, Should this example help ? function MySQL_idesk_lib tparam1 ,tparam2,tparam3,tparam4,tparam5,tparam6,tparam7,tparam8,tparam9 put revOpenDatabase (mysql,localhost,user,db_name,password) into myDatabaseID if myDatabaseID is not a number then return There was an error connecting to the SQL database! else if tparam1 is unselect_grid then put UPDATE definitions_en_cours SET edit_timeout = '0' WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' AND editable_grid = ' tparam3 ' into sqlStatement revExecuteSQL myDatabaseID,sqlStatement if the result is not a number then return error while submitting the UPDATE statement ... else return else if tparam1 is update_tarif_webstore then put UPDATE abonnes SET abo_tarif_webstore = ' tparam3 ' WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' into sqlStatement revExecuteSQL myDatabaseID,sqlStatement if the result is not a number then return error while submitting the UPDATE statement ... else return tparam3 else if tparam1 is tarif_webstore then put SELECT * FROM abonnes WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID if dbCursorID is not a number then return There was en error submitting the SELECT statement! else if revNumberOfRecords(dbCursorID) is 1 then return word 1 to -1 of revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,abo_tarif_webstore) else return end if else if tparam1 is addgridtoedit then put INSERT INTO definitions_en_cours SET abo_email = ' tparam2 ', editable_grid = ' tparam3 ', edit_timeout = ' the seconds \ ', abo_directory = ' tparam4 ' into sqlStatement revExecuteSQL myDatabaseID,sqlStatement if the result is not a number then return error while submitting the INSERT statement ... else return else if tparam1 is display_clues then put SELECT * FROM definitions_en_cours WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' AND editable_grid = ' tparam3 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID if dbCursorID is not a number then return error while submitting the SELECT statement ... else if revNumberOfRecords(dbCursorID) is not 0 then return revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,h_grid_clues) | revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,v_grid_clues) | revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,xml_plot) end if else if tparam1 is accepted_clues then put SELECT * FROM definitions_en_cours WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' AND editable_grid = ' tparam3 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID if dbCursorID is not a number then return error while submitting the SELECT statement ... else if revNumberOfRecords(dbCursorID) is not 0 then return revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,h_grid_clues) | revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,v_grid_clues) | \ revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,xml_plot) | revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,CCL) end if else if tparam1 is publish_target then replace | with in h_grid_clues replace | with in v_grid_clues put INSERT INTO tparam2 SET abo_email = ' tparam3 ', editable_grid = ' tparam4 \ ', h_grid_clues = ' tparam5 ', v_grid_clues = ' tparam6 \ ', xml_plot = ' tparam7 ', colab_copy_name = ' tparam8 ', publish_date = ' the seconds ' into sqlStatement ### ajouter tarif de mise à prix ### revExecuteSQL myDatabaseID,sqlStatement if the result is not a number then return error while submitting the INSERT statement ... else put DELETE FROM definitions_en_cours WHERE abo_email = ' tparam3 ' AND editable_grid = ' tparam4 ' into sqlStatement
Re: Open Database On-Rev Examples?
Does anyone have a good example of opening a MySQL database on On-Rev using a Rev stack on a local machine? I use the scripts from the Splash21 web site http://splash21.on-rev.com/. If you sign up, you can download all the files. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for volunteers to create Wikipedia on CD application
Hi David, David Bovill-3 wrote: I use it to move articles around between MediaWikis and provide additional tools that MediaWiki does not have. According to your description, this code looks like the startpoint for a commercial application for wiki administrators. ;-) David, Could you create code that: Verify (for a user selected list of articles) if offline XML Wikitext is not identical to online XML Wikitext, then download news XMLs, compress them as gzip and save a file to a folder in writable media? A more advanced version could just store a diff between these two XML Wikitext. Your code could work as a deliberately slow mechanism to update Wikis XML databases. Notice that Wikipedia have warned against creating applications that download too many pages in a short time frame. Many thanks for offering your help for this project! Have a great good week. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Looking-for-volunteers-to-create-Wikipedia-on-CD-application-tp1288518p1311191.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] tRev Gets Better PDF Docs, Enhanced Scratch Pad Editing (video)
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.comwrote: Kay, I don't know what link you are using,... On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: tRev users, Here's the link to a page with links to the Quickstart guide and the Shortcuts. http://reveditor.com/trev-quickstart-shortcuts-now-on-iworkcom Jerry, In your original post you had a link back to you 12Jan10 Blog. In the body were 3 links, Quickstart and Keyboard shortcuts (Win and Mac). I didn't try the other two, but he Quickstart one failed and still fails. Fortunately your suggested alternative links work fine. Thanks :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows menu bars
zryip theSlug wrote: Here is what I could do to have this menu in each of my documents. This is purely theoretical. 1) Creating of a substack in my project (as a kind of library) where I could create the main menu 2) Creating a button with some script to handle my menu bar. 3) Creating a parentscript / behavior link between menu bar and its code in the button 4) At every opening of a new document, copy of my group menu in the new open stack. Provided of course that I have room in the top left Maybe it can help, perhaps not. I tried ;) Thanks. It won't work for my stacks, they have too many cards each. When you copy a menu to a stack, you also have to place it on each card. Right now I have a pre-placed menu on each card, and have duplicated the menu for each stack, which I think is how it's often done. But I was hoping someone had a better idea. Or I may have to use a floating menu stack after all. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question on RevMobile
You guys are just too kind :-) My wife wont have to worry about my birthday or next Christmas ;-) On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: wait for my books on BeOS and the NewtonOS... Revolution will be ubiquitous... On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: This is like a Kay Back Machine, right :-) I have some OS/2 books I can send you so they can start working on Revolution for OS/2. http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Bernard On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone wants Rev 4.0 Linux or Classic engines please email me off-list to persuade me spend time and money to go down that path - Rev will then make an announcement 2 weeks later ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
The seconds is exactly what I wanted. I needed a reliable way to tell when the user changed the record so I can sync the most recent changes. This discussion has been great. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On Jan 26, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: Would an external work to suit these needs? It does not look overly complex and I can see about getting access to a Windows box to code for that platform.. Anyone willing to give me remote access to a Linux box to build an external for there? [anyone have an old Intel-based Mac they would like to donate so I can write externals for all three platform? worth a try ;-) ] I don't know. I guess it would depend on how each system handled their dates times internally. However it's not worth it for me, since I now longer deal with some issues on a regular basis and I have all my time stamp routines worked out for if I do. Regards, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[datagrid] how to search and show the result?
I built a simple list using datagrids, all goes fine. I chose to store data in the dg cache. Except, that in any text application, you'd expect the find command to work and display the results. Currently, the standard IDE search finds a test word in the dg cache of the datagrid. that's about it. If any of you has an idea on how to implement searching and showing in a datagrid.. or maybe this issue will be covered in a later version of datagrids? thanks, Robert -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/datagrid-how-to-search-and-show-the-result-tp1311218p1311218.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
Hi Folks There is another issue when using the seconds for a time stamp. If you record the seconds in a month outside summer time and translate the seconds to another format in a month in summer time or visa versa your result is an hour wrong. So the engine is not working out if the date the seconds refers to is in summer time or not before converting it using your local time zone. I always use the internet time for time stamps. Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open Database On-Rev Examples?
Hi Pierre, I'll take a look at this! Thanks, Rick On Jan 26, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: function MySQL_idesk_lib tparam1,tparam2,tparam3,tparam4,tparam5,tparam6,tparam7,tparam8,tparam9 put revOpenDatabase (mysql,localhost,user,db_name,password) into myDatabaseID if myDatabaseID is not a number then return There was an error connecting to the SQL database! else if tparam1 is unselect_grid then put UPDATE definitions_en_cours SET edit_timeout = '0' WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' AND editable_grid = ' tparam3 ' into sqlStatement revExecuteSQL myDatabaseID,sqlStatement if the result is not a number then return error while submitting the UPDATE statement ... else return else if tparam1 is update_tarif_webstore then put UPDATE abonnes SET abo_tarif_webstore = ' tparam3 ' WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' into sqlStatement revExecuteSQL myDatabaseID,sqlStatement if the result is not a number then return error while submitting the UPDATE statement ... else return tparam3 else if tparam1 is tarif_webstore then put SELECT * FROM abonnes WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID if dbCursorID is not a number then return There was en error submitting the SELECT statement! else if revNumberOfRecords(dbCursorID) is 1 then return word 1 to -1 of revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,abo_tarif_webstore) else return end if else if tparam1 is addgridtoedit then put INSERT INTO definitions_en_cours SET abo_email = ' tparam2 ', editable_grid = ' tparam3 ', edit_timeout = ' the seconds \ ', abo_directory = ' tparam4 ' into sqlStatement revExecuteSQL myDatabaseID,sqlStatement if the result is not a number then return error while submitting the INSERT statement ... else return else if tparam1 is display_clues then put SELECT * FROM definitions_en_cours WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' AND editable_grid = ' tparam3 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID if dbCursorID is not a number then return error while submitting the SELECT statement ... else if revNumberOfRecords(dbCursorID) is not 0 then return revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,h_grid_clues) | revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,v_grid_clues) | revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,xml_plot) end if else if tparam1 is accepted_clues then put SELECT * FROM definitions_en_cours WHERE abo_email = ' tparam2 ' AND editable_grid = ' tparam3 ' into sqlStatement put revQueryDatabase(myDatabaseID,sqlStatement) into dbCursorID if dbCursorID is not a number then return error while submitting the SELECT statement ... else if revNumberOfRecords(dbCursorID) is not 0 then return revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,h_grid_clues) | revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,v_grid_clues) | \ revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,xml_plot) | revDatabaseColumnNamed(dbCursorID,CCL) end if else if tparam1 is publish_target then replace | with in h_grid_clues replace | with in v_grid_clues put INSERT INTO tparam2 SET abo_email = ' tparam3 ', editable_grid = ' tparam4 \ ', h_grid_clues = ' tparam5 ', v_grid_clues = ' tparam6 \ ', xml_plot = ' tparam7 ', colab_copy_name = ' tparam8 ', publish_date = ' the seconds ' into sqlStatement ### ajouter tarif de mise à prix ### revExecuteSQL myDatabaseID,sqlStatement if the result is not a number
Re: Open Database On-Rev Examples?
Hi Sarah, I signed up for Splash21. When I tried to login, it keeps giving me a login error. I've tried it at least 12 times or more. The site isn't working correctly for some weird reason. Thanks, Rick On Jan 26, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Does anyone have a good example of opening a MySQL database on On-Rev using a Rev stack on a local machine? I use the scripts from the Splash21 web site http://splash21.on-rev.com/. If you sign up, you can download all the files. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Rick Harrison You can buy my $10 music album Funny Time Machine digital CD on the iTunes Store Now! To visit the iTunes Store now to listen to samples of my CD please click on the following link. (Please note you must have iTunes installed on your computer for this link to work.) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=213668290 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open Database On-Rev Examples?
Hi Sarah, Nevermind. Once I checked my email, I found the confirmation link required to validate the account. You would think they would have said a little something about that when one signs up. Thanks for the recommendation. I'm looking at the database script examples now. Rick On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:42 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi Sarah, I signed up for Splash21. When I tried to login, it keeps giving me a login error. I've tried it at least 12 times or more. The site isn't working correctly for some weird reason. Thanks, Rick On Jan 26, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Does anyone have a good example of opening a MySQL database on On-Rev using a Rev stack on a local machine? I use the scripts from the Splash21 web site http://splash21.on-rev.com/. If you sign up, you can download all the files. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Rick Harrison You can buy my $10 music album Funny Time Machine digital CD on the iTunes Store Now! To visit the iTunes Store now to listen to samples of my CD please click on the following link. (Please note you must have iTunes installed on your computer for this link to work.) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=213668290 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Rick Harrison You can buy my $10 music album Funny Time Machine digital CD on the iTunes Store Now! To visit the iTunes Store now to listen to samples of my CD please click on the following link. (Please note you must have iTunes installed on your computer for this link to work.) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=213668290 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows menu bars
Jacque I was hoping for a better answer from someone as well. I ended up doing what you did in a similar situation. If its not too late, don't forget about the advantage of behaviors when adding all those menus. Maintaining one menuset and then parentscripting all the others has saved me lots of time when I need to change something in one of the menus. Ron On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:31 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: zryip theSlug wrote: Here is what I could do to have this menu in each of my documents. This is purely theoretical. 1) Creating of a substack in my project (as a kind of library) where I could create the main menu 2) Creating a button with some script to handle my menu bar. 3) Creating a parentscript / behavior link between menu bar and its code in the button 4) At every opening of a new document, copy of my group menu in the new open stack. Provided of course that I have room in the top left Maybe it can help, perhaps not. I tried ;) Thanks. It won't work for my stacks, they have too many cards each. When you copy a menu to a stack, you also have to place it on each card. Right now I have a pre-placed menu on each card, and have duplicated the menu for each stack, which I think is how it's often done. But I was hoping someone had a better idea. Or I may have to use a floating menu stack after all. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The seconds and time zones
On Jan 26, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi Folks There is another issue when using the seconds for a time stamp. If you record the seconds in a month outside summer time and translate the seconds to another format in a month in summer time or visa versa your result is an hour wrong. So the engine is not working out if the date the seconds refers to is in summer time or not before converting it using your local time zone. I always use the internet time for time stamps. Agreed, especially if you are populating a database that would depend on accurate time stamps such as system log files for data processing and work flows. Reports and comparisons can span months. Most comparisons are not that stringent, so the seconds will work fine. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows menu bars
Ron wrote: If its not too late, don't forget about the advantage of behaviors when adding all those menus. Maintaining one menuset and then parentscripting all the others has saved me lots of time when I need to change something in one of the menus. What I've done is to have zero scripts in the menubar at all. It's just a bunch of empty buttons. All the stacks are run by a single backscript, and there is one menupick handler in there with all the menu items in it (it's a pretty short menu.) That means there is only one handler to manage. I thought about using behaviors, but I didn't see an advantage to it in this situation. Would there be one? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
