Re: [OT] Mac App Store
The thought occurs to me that Web Apps are looking far more attractive. sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Yes, Richard's post is spot on. They have a track record, and this is how it will start. Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Mac-App-Store-tp3004425p3006723.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Progress bar with lock?
Hi Charles, According to the Scripter's Scrapbook: A useful tip for displaying a modal that will not block, for example, a progress indicator. The secret to having a modal dialog that you can update is this: go invisible stack MyModal as modal set visible of me to true By opening the stack as invisible your scripts won't halt but you will display a modal dialog. Hugh Senior FLCo Charles wrote: I have an app that I am working on that takes a few seconds to clear fields, reset radio buttons and checkboxes before it goes to the second card. During this time, the screen is locked. I wanted to show a progress bar during this process is going on. Is there anyway to show a progress bar while the screen is locked? Is there a way to fake a progress bar while the screen is locked? Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
It will certainly become the most agnostic way to provide win-win next step solutions to agnostic customers ... Best, Pierre Le 22 oct. 2010 à 08:53, Jim Sims a écrit : The thought occurs to me that Web Apps are looking far more attractive. sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
On 10/22/2010 12:58 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: It will certainly become the most agnostic way to provide win-win next step solutions to agnostic customers ... Best, Pierre Le 22 oct. 2010 à 08:53, Jim Sims a écrit : The thought occurs to me that Web Apps are looking far more attractive. sims It certainly would be the solution for programmers who are not prepared to jump from Mac and Win to 'the dark side' of Linux - and why people seem so frightened escapes me; but it does seem to be the case. So; the next question we have to start asking is about the web-plugin, how functional it is on what platforms and in which browsers. And . . . for real 'agnosticism' the plugin might have to cease being PC-based and delivered in some other way . . . i.e.: all browsers on all operating systems. it certainly isn't 'agnostic' enough for DOS, RISC OS, MorphOS or Haiku . . . :( ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
I'm currently working on a project and now thinking of using the old CGI rev engine, not the plugin. You can do a lot with the CGI engine - even more if you throw a connecting standalone into the mix. I was going to use a different setup but all seems clearer now. sims On Oct 22, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Richmond wrote: On 10/22/2010 12:58 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: It will certainly become the most agnostic way to provide win-win next step solutions to agnostic customers ... Best, Pierre Le 22 oct. 2010 à 08:53, Jim Sims a écrit : The thought occurs to me that Web Apps are looking far more attractive. sims It certainly would be the solution for programmers who are not prepared to jump from Mac and Win to 'the dark side' of Linux - and why people seem so frightened escapes me; but it does seem to be the case. So; the next question we have to start asking is about the web-plugin, how functional it is on what platforms and in which browsers. And . . . for real 'agnosticism' the plugin might have to cease being PC-based and delivered in some other way . . . i.e.: all browsers on all operating systems. it certainly isn't 'agnostic' enough for DOS, RISC OS, MorphOS or Haiku . . . :( ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Le 22 oct. 2010 à 00:06, Lynn Fredricks a écrit : A very interesting blog post about the Oracle v.s. Google lawsuit (hint: it revolves around Java ownership and its impact on android) http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/08/14/how-oracle-might-kill -googles-android-and-software-patents-all-at-once/ A word of warning: the author is an Apple fanboy and does not like google. However, his perspective is intellectually stimulating (well, at least for me) Best François Yes, very interesting. At Paradigma, this is often a topic of conversation because Sun's business is a trio of technologies: - Solaris Just a slow Unix - Java Just a slow and low-suited tech paradigm - MySQL Just an non ACID-Complient RDBMS system My understanding is that Oracle has made very serious investments in Java based tools and Linux. They definitely do have some plans for Solaris - even as they've shut down any work on Open Solaris - but I think both that and MySQL are not the reason why Oracle purchased Sun. Oracle has a real enemy in IBM, and IBM was also making offers on Sun. If IBM got ahold of Java, they could make Oracle really suffer. Seems a realistic tough ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Best regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Franklin Audio 1.1 Released, Frankin 3D 1.7.1 Followed
Lynn, Is Franklin Audio 1.1 suitable as a WebPlugin component ? With/without restrictions ? TIA, Pierre Le 22 oct. 2010 à 00:27, Lynn Fredricks a écrit : Hello all, Yes, the numbering is strange, given Franklin Audio 1.1 is the initial release. These externals utilize libraries underneath and we want to start out by matching the Franklin release with the library release. Franklin Audio 1.1 is our multi-channel audio plugin. With this plugin, you go beyond simple stereo (panning) and straight to 3d space based audio, allowing you to buffer and play back multiple audio sources simultaneously, each of which can be played, looped, paused and more, independently. A last minute addition (with a slightly green example) is audio capturing. Franklin 3D 1.7.1 is our major fix update to the initial Franklin 1.0 release we made in 2009. I wont go into detail what's included, as it really doesn't have a flock of new features, just a huge number of engine fixes. If you got your copy of Franklin 3D 1.0 from the megabundle 2009 era, you should install this. Franklin Audio 1.1 will remain on sale until November 1, 2010 - approximately 50% off. On sale, single platforms are $39, both $69. Everything about both products can be found here: http://www.franklin3d.com Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Le 22 oct. 2010 à 01:10, Chipp Walters a écrit : Nice article, Lynn. One thing it made me think of, is the incredible role the Internet has played in software business development models. Previous to the Internet, the software Kingmakers consisted primarily of the MacWorlds, MacUsers, etc. and companies with deep enough pockets to advertise with them, and they together controlled the public perception of what software was good to buy. Then the Internet came and almost immediately allowed for the small, single-man developer to access thousands of independent minded customers by simply putting a page on the web. Once they sold a few copies, they were able to build a bit larger company and start to focus directly on new features and products through customer feedback. This same channel became their target market, and it succeeded mostly due to the immediate nature of direct marketing. Heck, I first purchased TechSmith's SnagIt years ago, then Camtasia soon after it launched. I now get an email every so often with an upgrade discount offer I can't resist. They receive 100% of the revenue, all for the cost of a single email. This won't happen anymore with the new AppStore. I don't suspect any of these developers will be happy UNLESS they can continue selling their products through traditional channels AS WELL as the Mac AppStore-- AND receive the customer registration information from the AppStore when a sale is made. I'll be surprised if Apple allows for both of these things to happen. I believe Apple is trying an end run stategy to bypass the Internet, and become the new Kingmaker of software, much like they've been able to do with the music industry. I suspect if you could turn back the clocks, many music execs would've acted much different before it all started to go Apple's way. So, if you suspect that Apple won't be successful in this way, i just agree. Thanks to the forecoming Cloud way to go ;-) If you want a laugh, check out Richard's recent blog post over at LiveCodeJournal.com: http://livecodejournal.com/blog.irv Chipp Walters CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote: The Mac App Store is a dangerous unknown. Apple doesn't have to rush eliminate other alternatives, but instead let the weight of presence in the OS and the direction of user opinion (like we saw with the Thoughts on Flash debaucle) move it step by step to an exclusive model and ownership of your customer relations. Maybe that's not the goal, but the Mac App Store is just the sort of tool you could use to accomplish that. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Sems me that this will stay the way to go as long as the password protected stack's library support will not be added to the LiveCode cgi-based application's server engine :-/ Would be great to get this feature added to the server engine as soon as possible. A timeline info would greatly help me as i'm just thinking to convert an important project from .rev to the old CGI way to become able to publish the app without having to let anyone access to the .irev libs contents. Kind Regards, Pierre Le 22 oct. 2010 à 12:48, Jim Sims a écrit : I'm currently working on a project and now thinking of using the old CGI rev engine, not the plugin. You can do a lot with the CGI engine - even more if you throw a connecting standalone into the mix. I was going to use a different setup but all seems clearer now. sims On Oct 22, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Richmond wrote: On 10/22/2010 12:58 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: It will certainly become the most agnostic way to provide win-win next step solutions to agnostic customers ... Best, Pierre Le 22 oct. 2010 à 08:53, Jim Sims a écrit : The thought occurs to me that Web Apps are looking far more attractive. sims It certainly would be the solution for programmers who are not prepared to jump from Mac and Win to 'the dark side' of Linux - and why people seem so frightened escapes me; but it does seem to be the case. So; the next question we have to start asking is about the web-plugin, how functional it is on what platforms and in which browsers. And . . . for real 'agnosticism' the plugin might have to cease being PC-based and delivered in some other way . . . i.e.: all browsers on all operating systems. it certainly isn't 'agnostic' enough for DOS, RISC OS, MorphOS or Haiku . . . :( ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Yep. Thanks François Pierre Le 21 oct. 2010 à 23:15, François Chaplais a écrit : A very interesting blog post about the Oracle v.s. Google lawsuit (hint: it revolves around Java ownership and its impact on android) http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/08/14/how-oracle-might-kill-googles-android-and-software-patents-all-at-once/ A word of warning: the author is an Apple fanboy and does not like google. However, his perspective is intellectually stimulating (well, at least for me) Best François Le 21 oct. 2010 à 23:05, Lynn Fredricks a écrit : This means that the Apple-produced runtime will not be maintained at the same level, and may be removed from future versions of Mac OS X. The Java runtime shipping in Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, will continue to be supported and maintained through the standard support cycles of those products. I suspect this is another tremor caused in part by a change in ownership of Java. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC - Because it is about who you know.(tm) http://www.proactive-intl.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Open a property inspector by script ?
Hi... Is it possible to open the property inspector of an object by script, and have it display the geometry settings on opening ? be well Dixie ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open a property inspector by script ?
on mouseUp # get the target of this control local tTargetID put the long id of the target into tTargetID # create the inspector linked to this control send revBuildPropertyPalette tTargetID to stack revTemplatePalette # get the name of the inspector linked to this control local tPaletteName put revPropertyPalettes(tTargetID) into tPaletteName # bring the inspector stack into use so we can use the scripts from it (we could do this with the value() function) start using stack tPaletteName # get the text for the drop down menu (the first line is the object type) local tTabs put revObjectTabs2(tTargetID) into tTabs # lock the screen so we do not see the selection handles lock screen select tTargetID # get the proper geometry card to display local tDefaultCard put revGeometryCard() into tDefaultCard # deselect the control and unlock the screen select EMPTY unlock screen # go to the correct inspector pane revBuildPropertyPaletteGoCard tDefaultCard, tPaletteName, tTargetID, tTabs # get the inspector to remember the pane it is displaying revRememberPane # no longer need the palette's scripts stop using stack tPaletteName end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Scott, Congratulations on making to the new and noteworthy pane on the AppStore!!! Just a few reviews and there you are. I can not imagine any other way to get that kind of exposure that quickly. And to think this could happen for desktop apps still seems a good thing to me. It levels the playing field for some. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:03 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: For myself, I'm not sure enough details are available to really know whether this is a good thing or not. I would agree that first impression seems kind of questionable. Apple controlling everything seems undesirable. On the other hand, my little iPad game is currently being featured under the New and Noteworthy section of the Games section in the App Store. I'm torn: do I cheer Apple on or throw tomatoes at them? :-) (Thanks again to everyone for their support -- very much appreciated.) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Keyboards
Well, the possibility of being able to use RR...ERR LC to develop iOS apps caused me to buy a Mac Mini, my first desktop in a while. For the first time in a long time I'm looking for a keyboard. Since I spend a lot of my day banging on keys, I'm looking for something that doesn't feel like 5h!7, and will put up with the abuse. I WANT to like the Apple-branded keyboards, but my first impression is that I don't like the chicklets on the wireless version, and I think I want a full 105 key keyboard. I've been to Best Buy but I haven't found one that feels good under my fingers. Suggestions? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Progress bar with lock?
Hugh, Thanks for this suggestion! I will give it a try. Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Oct 22, 2010, at 3:26 AM, FlexibleLearning-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: Hi Charles, According to the Scripter's Scrapbook: A useful tip for displaying a modal that will not block, for example, a progress indicator. The secret to having a modal dialog that you can update is this: go invisible stack MyModal as modal set visible of me to true By opening the stack as invisible your scripts won't halt but you will display a modal dialog. Hugh Senior FLCo Charles wrote: I have an app that I am working on that takes a few seconds to clear fields, reset radio buttons and checkboxes before it goes to the second card. During this time, the screen is locked. I wanted to show a progress bar during this process is going on. Is there anyway to show a progress bar while the screen is locked? Is there a way to fake a progress bar while the screen is locked? Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Progress-bar-with-lock-tp3006132p3006728.html To unsubscribe from Progress bar with lock?, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Progress-bar-with-lock-tp3006132p3007323.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Progress bar with lock?
There is yet another way. Screen locking does not affect animated gifs, so if you have an indeterminate progress bar in gif format (there are some bundled with rev in the image libraries), you can show it and lock screen the thing will keep spinning while you work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Mac App Store
Nice article, Lynn. Thanks Chipp! Heck, I first purchased TechSmith's SnagIt years ago, then Camtasia soon after it launched. I now get an email every so often with an upgrade discount offer I can't resist. They receive 100% of the revenue, all for the cost of a single email. This won't happen anymore with the new AppStore. Absolutely - and this is under the guise of the new venue being more trusted. That's a card that brokerages play often (as we both know from elsewhere ;-)). I don't suspect any of these developers will be happy UNLESS they can continue selling their products through traditional channels AS WELL as the Mac AppStore-- AND receive the customer registration information from the AppStore when a sale is made. I'll be surprised if Apple allows for both of these things to happen. Right! I don't think at any point they will give you access to user registration data, and simply claim it's a matter of their privacy policy. It is the same with several publishers out there Ive worked with. I believe Apple is trying an end run stategy to bypass the Internet, and become the new Kingmaker of software, much like they've been able to do with the music industry. I suspect if you could turn back the clocks, many music execs would've acted much different before it all started to go Apple's way. No matter what claims come from Apple as to intent, this is exactly the strategy to take if tht is their intent. Admitting it would certainly cause great harm to Apple, so we will never know until it either happens or not. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revServer installation issues
On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Thanks Andre! This is a crazy problem. I just made the changes you recommend and added the .htaccess back into the mix, but no joy! I'm guessing I made a change to my httpd.conf at some point without commenting it and that's what is keeping your solution from working here. I'll see if I can track it down and post an explanation. However I am not without a solution: Mike sent me a copy of his httpd.conf, I replaced mine with it and *BAM* my .irev pages are now working! Can you do a diff on the two conf files and maybe find where yours went wrong? I am truly amazed at (and grateful for) the level of support provided by you guys, Andre and Mike, and so many other people on this list. It's an honor to be Ditto. This list is one of the best things about the LiveCode community. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Open a property inspector by script ?
Shao... There are days that pass you by when it seems that you have not learned much... there are other days when you learn something and the facts just get stored away, maybe for recall at some point in the future... and now and again there are days when you learn so much it makes you tired... this has been one of those days... I am now sat down resting... Thanks for your reply... you have put a smile on my face.. be well Dixie From: shaos...@wehostmacs.com To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:35:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Open a property inspector by script ? on mouseUp # get the target of this control local tTargetID put the long id of the target into tTargetID # create the inspector linked to this control send revBuildPropertyPalette tTargetID to stack revTemplatePalette # get the name of the inspector linked to this control local tPaletteName put revPropertyPalettes(tTargetID) into tPaletteName # bring the inspector stack into use so we can use the scripts from it (we could do this with the value() function) start using stack tPaletteName # get the text for the drop down menu (the first line is the object type) local tTabs put revObjectTabs2(tTargetID) into tTabs # lock the screen so we do not see the selection handles lock screen select tTargetID # get the proper geometry card to display local tDefaultCard put revGeometryCard() into tDefaultCard # deselect the control and unlock the screen select EMPTY unlock screen # go to the correct inspector pane revBuildPropertyPaletteGoCard tDefaultCard, tPaletteName, tTargetID, tTabs # get the inspector to remember the pane it is displaying revRememberPane # no longer need the palette's scripts stop using stack tPaletteName end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Franklin Audio 1.1 Released, Frankin 3D 1.7.1 Followed
Hi Pierre, Is Franklin Audio 1.1 suitable as a WebPlugin component ? With/without restrictions ? It hasn't been tested - are full on externals working now? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
HI, Mike, There are actually two models, the full size USB 105 key version with num keypad, and the wireless, smaller version. if you haven't tried one of the 'newer' mac keyboards, they're not as impractical and non-tactile as they look. They take a little getting used to, but they are not chicklets, as in the Texas Instruments personal computer disaster. I now prefer them over PC-like keyboards. They're light and easy to pack in luggage. In other words, don't knock it until you've actually used one. They will take the abuse, but of course any keyboard used every day will get worn out after a few years. I'm buying another one of these things soon. On 22 October 2010 07:35, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Well, the possibility of being able to use RR...ERR LC to develop iOS apps caused me to buy a Mac Mini, my first desktop in a while. For the first time in a long time I'm looking for a keyboard. Since I spend a lot of my day banging on keys, I'm looking for something that doesn't feel like 5h!7, and will put up with the abuse. I WANT to like the Apple-branded keyboards, but my first impression is that I don't like the chicklets on the wireless version, and I think I want a full 105 key keyboard. I've been to Best Buy but I haven't found one that feels good under my fingers. Suggestions? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revServer installation issues
On 10/22/10 8:19 AM, Devin Asay wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Thanks Andre! This is a crazy problem. I just made the changes you recommend and added the .htaccess back into the mix, but no joy! I'm guessing I made a change to my httpd.conf at some point without commenting it and that's what is keeping your solution from working here. I'll see if I can track it down and post an explanation. However I am not without a solution: Mike sent me a copy of his httpd.conf, I replaced mine with it and *BAM* my .irev pages are now working! Can you do a diff on the two conf files and maybe find where yours went wrong? Will do. It won't do it immediately as I have to catch up with some other stuff, but I'll get there. Hopefully by tonight. I am truly amazed at (and grateful for) the level of support provided by you guys, Andre and Mike, and so many other people on this list. It's an honor to be Ditto. This list is one of the best things about the LiveCode community. Of course your name is right up there too, Devin. Thanks for the input on this one. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open a property inspector by script ?
This seems to work here: choose pointer tool select btn 1 -- or whatever object you want send mousedoubleUp to btn 1 One advantage to this sort of top-down approach is that it should survive changes to the IDE, and allows support for any inspector the user may have installed, not just the one RunRev uses. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ ambassa...@fourthworld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] LocoSnap :: Snap like there is no tomorrow
Folks, Following the trend of boring fridays at work, today I release to public scrutiny a handy tool called LocoSnap. LocoSnap is a tool to be used inside the LiveCode IDE to take screenshots from open stacks. It makes easy to take screenshots and save them to the HD or upload to a server. You can setup as many servers you want by going to preferences and filling the servers field. The format is straight forward like: my title | my full FTP url for posting shots | my HTTP url for sharing the image For example: My Example Site | ftp://user:passw...@example.com/images/ | http://example.com/images/ You can have as many of these as you want and then use a popup in the main screen to select where to upload. This little stack can be used as plugin and has a beautiful dark theme courtesy of Altuit Interface Designer. LocoSnap is the easiest way to share screenshots of Rev stacks with clients and friends. If you want to see a shot of it, take a look at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1340110/locosnap.png shot taken with locosnap of course. It is available on RevOnline http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/519/LocoSnap-::-Snap-Like-There-Is-No-Tomorrow http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/519/LocoSnap-::-Snap-Like-There-Is-No-TomorrowFeedback appreciated. Cheers andre -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Tab Panel - how to change the hilited selection?
Amazingly enough, there appears to be no documentation for Tab Panel, the button with choices displayed along the top of a rectangle. I am using a Tab Panel to navigate between cards and when I click on a tab button it hilites and then my script navigates the user to a different card where the hilited button is not what the user clicked on to get there but rather, whatever button they clicked on when they last left that card. I thought I knew how to set the hilite on the correct button once I got to the destination card but it appears I was mistaken. What I'd like is for the hilited button on the tab panel to just stay selected according to the card it is on. Barring a way to freeze the hilite on each card to it's button, how do I set the hilite appropriately once I've landed on a card? Seems like this simple characteristic of which button is hilited should be an attribute in the Inspector. Thanks in advance. Kee Nethery___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tab Panel - how to change the hilited selection?
I think you can do it with the menuhistory cheers andre On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Kee Nethery k...@kagi.com wrote: Amazingly enough, there appears to be no documentation for Tab Panel, the button with choices displayed along the top of a rectangle. I am using a Tab Panel to navigate between cards and when I click on a tab button it hilites and then my script navigates the user to a different card where the hilited button is not what the user clicked on to get there but rather, whatever button they clicked on when they last left that card. I thought I knew how to set the hilite on the correct button once I got to the destination card but it appears I was mistaken. What I'd like is for the hilited button on the tab panel to just stay selected according to the card it is on. Barring a way to freeze the hilite on each card to it's button, how do I set the hilite appropriately once I've landed on a card? Seems like this simple characteristic of which button is hilited should be an attribute in the Inspector. Thanks in advance. Kee Nethery___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tab Panel - how to change the hilited selection?
Thanks Andre, but ... On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: I think you can do it with the menuhistory this is what I was using: set the menuhistory of button NavBar to 5 I thought that was the correct code but I find that when I set the menuhistory on a tab panel, it navigates to the card for that tab. It is as though someone pressed the button. It does not appear to set the hilite for the button that I want hilited. I am using 4.5.0 Is it a bug? Or is it doing what it is documented to do? Kee Nethery ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Milgram and the Unabomber [OT]
As a forensic psychologist I have an interest in both Milgram's work and the Unabomber. My recollection is that Kaczynski was a volunteer subject at the Murray lab in Harvard, but not for Stan Milgram. They did other poorly controlled 'research' there, which certainly would not obtain ethical approval now. Milgram's stood out as being reported sufficiently well to be interpreted, and conducted more systematically. Although Milgram's work would also not now obtain ethical approval, it met the standards of the time. I may be wrong, but I think Milgram is in the clear on the Unabomber. A Mythoid rather than a Factoid? Regards David Glasgow On 21 Oct 2010, at 12:34, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Milgram's youngest and most vulnerable undergraduate research subjects was extremely damaged by Milgram's emotionally abusive experiments. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tab Panel - how to change the hilited selection?
Kee, let me try to understand, you have a tab panel as a background group which has a go to card in the menupick handler right? When you navigate to a card without using the tab menu, it fails to hilite the correct card there. Then you do like this, on the menupick, you check if you are going to the card that is the actual default card, like going to itself, if so, you exit not to enter an infinite loop. On your opencard handler you set the menuhistory to the current card. does this solve your problem? On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Kee Nethery k...@kagi.com wrote: Thanks Andre, but ... On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: I think you can do it with the menuhistory this is what I was using: set the menuhistory of button NavBar to 5 I thought that was the correct code but I find that when I set the menuhistory on a tab panel, it navigates to the card for that tab. It is as though someone pressed the button. It does not appear to set the hilite for the button that I want hilited. I am using 4.5.0 Is it a bug? Or is it doing what it is documented to do? Kee Nethery ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
The Apple corded full USB is very nice. Far better than the Cherry Strait which is a contender also, but the keycaps wear off. Otherwise, Logitech OEM is very good value and everyone really likes it. Or the extreme clickety clack made by PCKeyboards, which if they are into that sort of thing, people also like a lot. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Keyboards-tp3007302p3007583.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
I use the apple corded keyboard at work, and for home I use the wireless short version (without the numeric keypad)... It took me a few days to get used to the one at home, but now I'm equally comfortable on both. At least now I don't have to tote my keyboard around with me along with my Mbpro. 23 LED Cinema display with docking cables in both locations so basically works like an iMac ;) Now if only I can get used to the Magic Mouse ;-) Leland Le 22/10/2010 19:26, « Peter Alcibiades » palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk a écrit : The Apple corded full USB is very nice. Far better than the Cherry Strait which is a contender also, but the keycaps wear off. Otherwise, Logitech OEM is very good value and everyone really likes it. Or the extreme clickety clack made by PCKeyboards, which if they are into that sort of thing, people also like a lot. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Progress bar with lock?
bt... it's not a real progress bar. It's only eye candy. Kind of like Microsoft's progress bars. Ever wanted to poke yourself in the eye with a sharp stick after waiting 15 minutes at 33%, only to have the bar jump to 85% then 10 seconds later go back to 0%? Someone ought to beat that developer who thought THAT was a god idea! Bob On Oct 22, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: There is yet another way. Screen locking does not affect animated gifs, so if you have an indeterminate progress bar in gif format (there are some bundled with rev in the image libraries), you can show it and lock screen the thing will keep spinning while you work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Progress bar with lock?
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: bt... it's not a real progress bar. It's only eye candy. Kind of like Microsoft's progress bars. Ever wanted to poke yourself in the eye with a sharp stick after waiting 15 minutes at 33%, only to have the bar jump to 85% then 10 seconds later go back to 0%? Someone ought to beat that developer who thought THAT was a god idea! not a progress bar but a spinner, something to move and show that hey, we're still processing, this is better than locking up. Bob On Oct 22, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: There is yet another way. Screen locking does not affect animated gifs, so if you have an indeterminate progress bar in gif format (there are some bundled with rev in the image libraries), you can show it and lock screen the thing will keep spinning while you work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
I ordered a few items the other day, one of which is the shorter wireless keyboard. I'm expecting to get on with it ok, because I full time use a MacBook Pro keyboard, which is more or less the same set of keys. I also ordered a Magic Trackpad. Will be interesting to see how that goes. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
VideoGrabber: dropping last second of sound
We've used LiveCode to create an unattended system in a public environment which is recording several hundred short video clips a day. The clips are variable length - controlled by the person who is recording a message - typically 10-30 second each. In a small number of cases, the last second of audio is lost. The actual sound track is shorter than the video track; and in the very small sample of cases I've so far being able to inspect (2 clips) it was almost exactly 1 second shorter. Has anyone else encountered this or a similar problem? TIA, Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tabbing out of a text field
Aye, but I was hitting return in an empty scrolling field. Bob On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:19 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/21/10 6:10 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Well this is interesting: Even if a scrolling field has tab on return set, it inserts a cr when you hit return. On a regular field it tabs. So what property visible from the property inspector corresponds to this behavior? Obviously not the tab on return! Tab on return (i.e., autoTab) only happens when you are on the last line of the field. So in a 3-line field, a return key will only tab to the next field if the cursor is on line 3, otherwise it inserts a carriage return. Scrolling fields have no last line, they are infinite, so autoTab never triggers on those. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: VideoGrabber: dropping last second of sound
I have no idea what VideoGrabber is, but the symptoms suggest that some frames were skipped, and yet the stored frames were kept at a regular frame rate. Would be interesting to video grab a running clock. Then you could test my theory. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tabbing out of a text field
NVM just read your last sentence. I suppose then that the autoTab property for scrolling fields should be disabled, or invisible in the inspector. No big deal. Bob On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:19 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/21/10 6:10 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Well this is interesting: Even if a scrolling field has tab on return set, it inserts a cr when you hit return. On a regular field it tabs. So what property visible from the property inspector corresponds to this behavior? Obviously not the tab on return! Tab on return (i.e., autoTab) only happens when you are on the last line of the field. So in a 3-line field, a return key will only tab to the next field if the cursor is on line 3, otherwise it inserts a carriage return. Scrolling fields have no last line, they are infinite, so autoTab never triggers on those. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tab Panel - how to change the hilited selection?
On Oct 22, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Kee, let me try to understand, you have a tab panel as a background group which has a go to card in the menupick handler right? OK, I'm a dork. Turns out that the card in question has two copies of the tab panel. All my commands are setting the tab panel that is UNDERNEATH the one that I can see. Sorry to have wasted your time. Thank you for your suggestions because I played around with it a bit more based upon them. Here is what solved it. I used the message box to set menuhistory to 5 and then I did a get menuhistory and it returned 5 even though I could clearly see that the tab #1 was hilited. Thank you for confirming that how I thought one set the tab panel hilites was indeed the correct way to do it. Kee Nethery___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Franklin Audio 1.1 Released, Frankin 3D 1.7.1 Followed
Hi Lynn, Hi Pierre, Is Franklin Audio 1.1 suitable as a WebPlugin component ? With/without restrictions ? It hasn't been tested - are full on externals working now? Can't say. Someone ? Best regards, Pierre Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
I really like the Logitech ones. The only real advice I can give you is when it comes to keyboards, cheap refers to both price AND quality, and hence longevity. Bob On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: Well, the possibility of being able to use RR...ERR LC to develop iOS apps caused me to buy a Mac Mini, my first desktop in a while. For the first time in a long time I'm looking for a keyboard. Since I spend a lot of my day banging on keys, I'm looking for something that doesn't feel like 5h!7, and will put up with the abuse. I WANT to like the Apple-branded keyboards, but my first impression is that I don't like the chicklets on the wireless version, and I think I want a full 105 key keyboard. I've been to Best Buy but I haven't found one that feels good under my fingers. Suggestions? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
I should also mention that I have never seen anyone wear the letters off the Apple keyboards. At least not the external ones. I have on other keyboards. Again, don't go cheap and you should be fine with anything. Bob On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: Well, the possibility of being able to use RR...ERR LC to develop iOS apps caused me to buy a Mac Mini, my first desktop in a while. For the first time in a long time I'm looking for a keyboard. Since I spend a lot of my day banging on keys, I'm looking for something that doesn't feel like 5h!7, and will put up with the abuse. I WANT to like the Apple-branded keyboards, but my first impression is that I don't like the chicklets on the wireless version, and I think I want a full 105 key keyboard. I've been to Best Buy but I haven't found one that feels good under my fingers. Suggestions? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
I have to say, reluctantly, not being an admirer of Apple or its works, that the latest keyboards, if that's the sort of thing you want, basically do not have any competition. I was using the aluminum usb full one, really came to like it, apart from the irritating keycaps. It is virtually silent, and my initial worries about the angle and RSI turned out to be groundless. Then my partner's keyboard blew up (it was an old Apple one also), so I gave her mine to try, and I could not get it back. I then bought the compact version for her for another office she works in, which is very nice too, it has full sized keys and takes up minimal desk space. I then bought a Cherry Strait for myself, which is really terrible by comparison, much noisier, and as I say the keycaps lose their legends after a very short time. Most disappointing. The real irritation about the Apple keyboards is the keys. Where, you ask yourself is the # key? The layout seems to be neither us nor uk but something horrible in between, so if you are not using an Apple computer you end up writing xmodmap files to get and @ in the right places, and then they do not correspond to what is on the keys. Its the usual story, difference and irritation for its own sake, in a nutshell, everything one detests about Apple. Which is why, despite its being a superior keyboard in itself, I won't be buying another one to replace the Cherry. But like I say, my partner is delighted with them. Of course, she cannot see the xmodmap files I have bought the Logitech OEMs for people who do a lot of typing. professional writers, who did not want to spend much money, and they seem to work very well for them. Solid, not too much effort, not too noisy, last for ever. They are probably the best value of the membrane type. I think if you are not going to spend the money and get a real specialist keyboard, this is the one to go for. I have bought the PCKeyboards one, basically an old IBM buckling spring recreation, for one guy who is an ex typesetter and so as nostalgic for that very positive action. He loves it, but you can hear it in the next room. Professional typists of a certain age really like these. They are not too expensive either, but they are not for everyone. But were I a Mac user (or a lady wanting minimal space on the desktop, a nice keyboard feel, and an elegant look) I would definitely get the corded aluminum one, either the extended or the basic. I know I will never get mine back. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Keyboards-tp3007302p3007696.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
I wonder if they sell a UK keyboard. For me, the # is shift-3, where it's always been for US keyboards. The @ is shift-2, again where it's always been. is shift-' again... well you get the idea. Bob On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: The real irritation about the Apple keyboards is the keys. Where, you ask yourself is the # key? The layout seems to be neither us nor uk but something horrible in between, so if you are not using an Apple computer you end up writing xmodmap files to get and @ in the right places, and then they do not correspond to what is on the keys. Its the usual story, difference and irritation for its own sake, in a nutshell, everything one detests about Apple. Which is why, despite its being a superior keyboard in itself, I won't be buying another one to replace the Cherry. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
Mike, Nice to hear from someone who takes typing seriously. I've found keyboard preferences are as personal as spouse preferences. Some people regard noise in a keyboard as a sign of quality; some people think silence in a keyboard is a sign of quality. Some like a long key travel, some prefer short keystrokes. Some don't care enough to notice a difference. For me, one advantage of buying a Mini over an iMac is that I would not be tempted to use another free Apple keyboard - which I think is numb, lacks sculptured keys, has no auditory response and is (for me) more pain than joy to use. Attached to my Mini is a Unicomp Model M. Do a Goggle search and you'll find this is rightly regarded by many keyboard affectionatos as the best keyboard ever. I love it. It is an absolute joy to use. I look forward to typing on it every day. But... I've loaned it to people with mixed results. About half immediately bought one for themselves. Others complained that it was too noisy. One thought it was too heavy?!? Younger users thought the keystrokes were too long (I suspect they had never used anything other than a scissor switch keyboard) - if you are accustomed to banging the keys to the bottom to assure that they have made contact, it takes awhile to realize that you don't need to do that with a good keyboard - with the M you get both auditory feedback (the clickety clack) and tactile feedback (as the keyspring buckles) - not only faster, but a lot more comfortable. If you are considering an M: 1. Don't let the price scare you. If you use a keyboard daily the lack of pain will pay for the M shortly - I type a lot, I've had two bouts of carpal tunnel trauma with prior keyboards - expensive and not much fun. The M will out-last several computers - when the time comes to upgrade your Mini, keep the M. Keep it for a couple decades if you wish. 2. The keys on the M have not been rearranged in almost 30 years. Compare with Apple keyboards where F-keys do different things with different models; where some Apple keyboards require you to use the Fn key with the F-key and other Apple keyboards require you to NOT use the Fn key for the same action. For years the Enter key floated around different locations at the bottom of Apple's smaller keyboards - now it is gone (replaced by Fn Return - how handy is that?) This problem goes away with an M (or any other external keyboard); you can set it up as you wish - and use it with your next five or ten computers - without relearning key layout. 3. Unicomp does not mention this on their website, but you can get Mac keys (Command and Option) for $10. You must order by phone and ask for them. 4. Change the default Windows layout to Mac layout in the Keyboard system preferences (swap the Windows key and the Alt key to Option and Command). With Snow Leopard you can do this per keyboard - very handy if you have the M connected to a laptop and use the M in the office and the laptop's keyboard on the road. BTW the name for the M in the Keyboard system preference is Endura - very appropriate. 5. For the record: I got the Customizer 104/105, USB, Buckling Spring (of course!), US English, Pearl White model. Doing it today, I might be tempted to get black with metallic grey (would probably match the current Mini better). If you don't go the M route, consider adding some sound to the keyboard you get. I use Keyclick from Sustainable Softworks on my laptop. I find it helps me type faster. Obviously it is not needed with an M. One advantage it has over the M: you can adjust the volume. Let us know if you have more keyboard questions. Paul Looney On Oct 22, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: Well, the possibility of being able to use RR...ERR LC to develop iOS apps caused me to buy a Mac Mini, my first desktop in a while. For the first time in a long time I'm looking for a keyboard. Since I spend a lot of my day banging on keys, I'm looking for something that doesn't feel like 5h!7, and will put up with the abuse. I WANT to like the Apple-branded keyboards, but my first impression is that I don't like the chicklets on the wireless version, and I think I want a full 105 key keyboard. I've been to Best Buy but I haven't found one that feels good under my fingers. Suggestions? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to
Re: Keyboards
On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: The real irritation about the Apple keyboards is the keys. Where, you ask yourself is the # key? Any Apple keyboard I look at seems to have the # as shift 3. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
Has anybody tried a Das Keyboard? I've read about them but I haven't been able to try one out. Just as an editorial comment, even the new wired apple kb has the 3/8 chicklet action. I've tried both kb's in best buy and I just can't get used to them. I don't mind scissors per se. Actually, if I could remove the kb from this really, really cheap acer aspire that's sitting here, I'd use it forever. It might be the easiest-to-type-on kb I've had. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 15:18, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: The real irritation about the Apple keyboards is the keys. Where, you ask yourself is the # key? Any Apple keyboard I look at seems to have the # as shift 3. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
On 10/22/10 1:00 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I should also mention that I have never seen anyone wear the letters off the Apple keyboards. At least not the external ones. I have on other keyboards. Again, don't go cheap and you should be fine with anything. I did. My old one is half bald. The S went first, followed eventually by most of the keys of the left side. I later found out this was a problem with certain Apple keyboards produced in 2008. One guy went through 3 of them in 18 months. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tab Panel - how to change the hilited selection?
On 10/22/10 12:12 PM, Kee Nethery wrote: Thanks Andre, but ... I know you've figured this out now, but just wanted to add a couple things. If you click on the tab button, you shouldn't need to set the selected tab at all, it should be automatic. The only time you'd need to script the menuhistory is if you want to do it remotely for some reason. For example, I have a stack that contains two different tab button backgrounds. One tab navigates to the other background. Because the tab button on the second background isn't the same one that was clicked in the first background, I need to script the selected tab when navigating there. When scripting it, be sure to lock messages, set the menuhistory, and then unlock messages. If you don't lock messages you can get into an infinite loop in some cases. For looking up info on tabbed buttons: the button is a type of menu button. There is brief documentation in the dictionary under the menuhistory entry, but I agree it isn't much. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: VideoGrabber: dropping last second of sound
yes, I'm guessing that it's not flushing the audio buffer on close. Another coding error that's been there for ages. I'd suggest that your stop sequence include some kind of delay before actually stopping the recording, so the talent stops speaking earlier than the actual time it stops, and it should all work out. *Send in time* would work well for this... Colin, check out videograbber, it's fairly useful for some limited video chores. It's inside every installation (in the mac package Contents:Tools:Resources:Sample Projects: folder as Video Capture.rev) -- they actually fixed most of it in the last updates. On 22 October 2010 10:44, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote: We've used LiveCode to create an unattended system in a public environment which is recording several hundred short video clips a day. The clips are variable length - controlled by the person who is recording a message - typically 10-30 second each. In a small number of cases, the last second of audio is lost. The actual sound track is shorter than the video track; and in the very small sample of cases I've so far being able to inspect (2 clips) it was almost exactly 1 second shorter. Has anyone else encountered this or a similar problem? TIA, Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Milgram and the Unabomber [OT]
On 10/22/10 6:48 AM, David Glasgow wrote: As a forensic psychologist... Uh oh. After reading this list for so long, you've probably got enough material for a book by now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
On 10/22/2010 10:18 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: The real irritation about the Apple keyboards is the keys. Where, you ask yourself is the # key? Any Apple keyboard I look at seems to have the # as shift 3. Transatlantic problem! British Apple Keyboards have the Sterling sign at shift 3; # is there at Alt 3. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
On Oct 22, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Richmond wrote: Transatlantic problem! British Apple Keyboards have the Sterling sign at shift 3; # is there at Alt 3. And the US one uses option-3 for £. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
Well if you can type you shouldn't be looking at the keys anyway... On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 15:37, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 10/22/10 1:00 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I should also mention that I have never seen anyone wear the letters off the Apple keyboards. At least not the external ones. I have on other keyboards. Again, don't go cheap and you should be fine with anything. I did. My old one is half bald. The S went first, followed eventually by most of the keys of the left side. I later found out this was a problem with certain Apple keyboards produced in 2008. One guy went through 3 of them in 18 months. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
I had a kensington that I liked but it didn't survive the beating. Had an apple wireless (2006) that didn't work all that well, but I was the second owner so not only did it have to survive me, no telling what the previous owner did to it. Despite all its issues, i'm back on a G-15, the first model made. Keycaps are worn off, it's noisy, big, heavy, the lit up keys are a bit obnoxious, however it still works, is easy to type on, does have the longer keystroke that I like, and it's primary selling point is.. It still works! On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: Well if you can type you shouldn't be looking at the keys anyway... On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 15:37, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 10/22/10 1:00 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I should also mention that I have never seen anyone wear the letters off the Apple keyboards. At least not the external ones. I have on other keyboards. Again, don't go cheap and you should be fine with anything. I did. My old one is half bald. The S went first, followed eventually by most of the keys of the left side. I later found out this was a problem with certain Apple keyboards produced in 2008. One guy went through 3 of them in 18 months. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
On 10/22/2010 11:11 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: Well if you can type you shouldn't be looking at the keys anyway... Hey, come over here and try typing on any one of the 3 keyboards I have on my desk that feature Latin-Arabic, Latin-Cyrillic and Latin-Phonetic Cyrillic and try typing using one of the Anglo-Saxon entry keybaords I wrote for my wife without looking; then, and only then, can you make those sorts of comments. Alternative, download my Devawriter and try typing out thr first 3 verses of Sri Isopanishad without looking . . . :) Love and muffled noises, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Keyboards
From: Mike Kerner Well if you can type you shouldn't be looking at the keys anyway... It's fun to swap the N and M key on someone's keyboard, and see how long before they get confused. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tab Panel - how to change the hilited selection?
On Oct 22, 2010, at 12:46 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/22/10 12:12 PM, Kee Nethery wrote: Thanks Andre, but ... I know you've figured this out now, but just wanted to add a couple things. If you click on the tab button, you shouldn't need to set the selected tab at all, it should be automatic. The only time you'd need to script the menuhistory is if you want to do it remotely for some reason. For example, I have a stack that contains two different tab button backgrounds. One tab navigates to the other background. Because the tab button on the second background isn't the same one that was clicked in the first background, I need to script the selected tab when navigating there. When scripting it, be sure to lock messages, set the menuhistory, and then unlock messages. If you don't lock messages you can get into an infinite loop in some cases. For looking up info on tabbed buttons: the button is a type of menu button. There is brief documentation in the dictionary under the menuhistory entry, but I agree it isn't much. thank you. The tool tip on the tool palettes says Tab Panel so I assumed that was it's name. Thanks! kee -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - I check email roughly 2 to 3 times per day. Kagi main office: +1 (510) 550-1336 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Re: Milgram and the Unabomber [OT]
Yeah, but no one would believe him, even if he wrote a book. On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:57 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/22/10 6:48 AM, David Glasgow wrote: As a forensic psychologist... Uh oh. After reading this list for so long, you've probably got enough material for a book by now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Milgram and the Unabomber [OT]
On 10/22/10 4:02 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Yeah, but no one would believe him, even if he wrote a book. On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:57 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/22/10 6:48 AM, David Glasgow wrote: As a forensic psychologist... Uh oh. After reading this list for so long, you've probably got enough material for a book by now. I was here the whole time, and I wouldn't believe it either. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
On 10/22/10 3:11 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: Well if you can type you shouldn't be looking at the keys anyway... Until the little bumps on the J and F keys wear off, which is probably next. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Milgram and the Unabomber [OT]
In case anyone misinterpreted my earlier reply let me offer the following clarification: By that I mean we all are so, ahem, unique that our story would not be believable, NOT that no one would believe David. On Oct 22, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Yeah, but no one would believe him, even if he wrote a book. On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:57 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/22/10 6:48 AM, David Glasgow wrote: As a forensic psychologist... Uh oh. After reading this list for so long, you've probably got enough material for a book by now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open a property inspector by script ?
Richard, nice sweet code :-) The only thing though, is his original message asked to open the Inspector on the Geometry pane hence the longer code I proposed.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re:-Milgram the Unabomber [OT]
Jacqueline Landman Gay said: Uh oh. After reading this list for so long, you've probably got enough material for a book by now. Nah. Nice list. Nice people. :-) Mind you, there was that one guy Regards David Glasgow On 22 Oct 2010, at 13:32, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Uh oh. After reading this list for so long, you've probably got enough material for a book by now. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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This guy has not been blocked yet? Bob On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:49 PM, thebilltay...@yahoo.com wrote: http://dukulahi.t35.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
Yes, but if I take my keyboard to England, then all the keys will have changed. Then what do I do? ;-) Bob On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: Well if you can type you shouldn't be looking at the keys anyway... On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 15:37, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 10/22/10 1:00 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I should also mention that I have never seen anyone wear the letters off the Apple keyboards. At least not the external ones. I have on other keyboards. Again, don't go cheap and you should be fine with anything. I did. My old one is half bald. The S went first, followed eventually by most of the keys of the left side. I later found out this was a problem with certain Apple keyboards produced in 2008. One guy went through 3 of them in 18 months. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Keyboards
Actually he's looking around about now for the institution that is missing a bunch of inmates. Bob On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/22/10 3:11 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: Well if you can type you shouldn't be looking at the keys anyway... Until the little bumps on the J and F keys wear off, which is probably next. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Hi Lynn, Saw an interesting post over at Gizmodo today. http://gizmodo.com/5670812/big-brother-apple-and-the-death-of-the-program?skyline=trues=i One of the more interesting comments is so appropriately true: The argument that the app store doesn't bar outside installations is bogus. It's like making the free market argument for walmart. Having a walmart in the center of your town and expecting competition to thrive is not a very smart bet. It's like saying that It would be a shame if you lost those kneecaps is a compassionate statement. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
I think this article says it really well. http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/ what_the_pundits_are_getting_wrong_about_the_new_macbook_air/ The MacBook Air is indeed Apple’s answer to the netbook. (One of them, anyway — more on that later.) But the answer they’ve given is “you’re doing it wrong.” Those who think Apple simply released their version of the product they’ve been deriding just aren’t paying attention. The entire article is pretty good and a better interpretation. Bill Vlahos On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Consider it was mere months ago when Steve told us all, Netbooks aren't better than anything, they're just cheap laptops and yesterday he announces Apple's first netbook. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Mac App Store
Bill, That article is at mac observer-- so I'm thinking it could be a bit biased? But, you are correct on a couple points. Netbooks are typically up to 1/8 the cost of the new MacBooks, and they have more USB and other external ports. Even so, my original point was you really can't believe anything Stevie says. For instance, he has previously confirmed there would not be a Mac AppStore-- now there is one. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: I think this article says it really well. http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/what_the_pundits_are_getting_wrong_about_the_new_macbook_air/ The MacBook Air is indeed Apple’s answer to the netbook. (One of them, anyway — more on that later.) But the answer they’ve given is “you’re doing it wrong.” Those who think Apple simply released their version of the product they’ve been deriding just aren’t paying attention. The entire article is pretty good and a better interpretation. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
