Re: OT: How to restore a complete HD on Mac?
Hi Tiemo, if you start up your Mac with a system installation disk rather than its built-in disk, there's an option on that to restore from a Time Machine backup (and since you're booted from another disk nothing on your built-in disk ought to be in use). On 21 Jul 2010, at 10:01, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Hi, > > I have done several backups of my Mac HD with time machine, but have never > had the need to restore. Because of my unsolved Rev-Valentina-GermanUmlaute > problem I want to restore my complete HD from time machine, because I think > it only can be a bug in any Update of Mac OS within the last few month. > > Now, when starting the restore of time machine I selected all Folders of > Macintosh HD from the wanted timestamp I get the error: "The object "User" > can't be changed or deleted, because it is used from Mac OS X". > > What am I doing wrong? How to restore the complete HD? > > Thanks for any hint > > Tiemo > > > > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Brainfade time - what's the proper name for a 'local' handler?
I think the term you're looking for is "private" e.g. private function xx On 27 May 2010, at 13:34, Ian Wood wrote: > I remember that one of the recent(ish) versions of Runrev introduced > handlers that sit inside handlers and can only be called from within > that handler, but what's the proper name so that I can look up how to > use them? > > Thanks in advance, > > Ian > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1
On 19 May 2010, at 09:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote: >> I'll say it again: Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it. >> >> Judy >> > > And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the > fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay > that way . . . . Probably more like not adding a basement to Grandad's house even though he's been dead for 25 years... > >> On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote: >> >>> Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage >>> sound channels while . . . . ? >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: open substack flickering despite lockscreen
Hi Tiemo, Add a preopenstack handler to the stack that you want to display modally, and in this handler, set the location you want the stack to occupy. When the stack opens up, before you see it it positions itself in the location you supplied, so: on preopenstack global tLocX,tLocY --or some other way of passing the location you want - a custom property of the stack perhaps? set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY end preopenstack then when you use the command modal stack "lizenzinfo" your stack will be displayed at tLocX and tLocY On 4 Feb 2010, at 14:01, Klaus Major wrote: > Hi Tiemo, > >> Hi Klaus, >> >> there is a saying "don't halloo, before you are out of the wood" > > ??? I only understand "station" :-D > >> When using just: >> >> set the left of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocX >> set the top of stack "lizenzinfo" to tLocY >> modal stack "lizenzinfo" >> >> the setting of the loc seems to be ineffective, The stack just opens at the >> default center position. When opening the stack, before setting the loc, as >> in my first approach, the positioning works, but the flickering. >> Any idea what's wrong? > > Oops, my fault! > I thought this behaviour only applies to the "Ask" and "Answer" dialogs, but > a look into the docs proved me wrong. > This is obviously managed by the engine. > > No other idea, sorry. > >> Thanks >> Tiemo > > Best > > -- > Klaus Major > http://www.major-k.de > kl...@major.on-rev.com > > _______ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Export locations
Hi Richmond, After I've saved a document I write a little text file to the user's preferences folder - the text file contains the last save path. Just before I put up a save box in my program, I test to see if that little text file exists. If it does, I read it in and use the path it contains as the location to save to. If it doesn't exist I pick a reasonable default (the user's documents folder). This works ok for me (on Windows and Mac OS X). On 28 Jan 2010, at 13:27, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > Having exported a file from my merry Sanskrit Typewriter standalone to > my location of choice, > I find, on attempting to save a second file the standalone has not > remembered my previous choice > so I have to click around all over again, and again, and again to find > my location. > > Not Good. > > Any bright ideas? > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stupid Send in Time Question
Hi Judy, how about putting the names of all of your images as comma separated items in a list, and then retrieving one item after the other? You could use a loop there. On 23 Sep 2009, at 03:50, Judy Perry wrote: Thank you, Sarah. So, do I have this properly?: If I used my brain and came up with an intelligent naming system for my images I could use a loop, but, I didn't and so I won't; It's not a slideshow, so that's out; and, that leaves Use wait with messages... think I'll go with that! Thank you again! Judy On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Sarah Reichelt wrote: if you use "wait with messages", then it won't be too bad, as the interface will not appear to be frozen i.e. the window can be moved around the screen etc. Resizing will not work as the resizeStack message will not be sent until after your loop. The "send in time" method can be done in a couple of ways. You can have a series of handlers, with the last line of each doing the send in time. Or you can have a single handler with a script local or global containing a counter. The handle could check the value of this counter, so something based on the value, increment the counter, then "send in time" back to the original handler. However, if this is just a slideshow type thing, how about putting each image on a new card, and using a handler like this: command nextSlide go next card send "nextSlide" to me in 10 seconds end nextSlide Any additional scripting needed could be in the preOpenCard or openCard handler for each card. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Hi Adrian,
if the script in your email is exactly what you are using, then you
need to move the function declaration outside of the mouseup handler.
I don't think that these things can be nested.
- - -
FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
put the filename of this stack into the theFile
set the itemdelimiter to slash
put pFile into the last item of theFile
return theFile
end getPathToFile
on mouseUp
start using stack "My App"
put "MyPrettyFont.ttf" into myList
removeFonts myList
put the result into rslt
if rslt is not empty then
answer information rslt
end if
--To use:
put getPathFile("My App.exe") into tFile
launch tFile
stop using stack "My App" --(Ooops. Corrected literal 'May' here
in my last message, this is not the problem)
end mouseUp
- - -
On 3 Sep 2009, at 07:42, Adrian Williams wrote:
Phil,
Mouse up calls stack script to remove installed font and return
result. That already works.
When adding the FUNCTION code, the FUNCTION line keeps throwing up the
error.
I've followed all the advice everyone has given - I'm stumped.
- - -
on mouseUp
start using stack "My App"
put "MyPrettyFont.ttf" into myList
removeFonts myList
put the result into rslt
if rslt is not empty then
answer information rslt
end if
FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
put the filename of this stack into the theFile
set the itemdelimiter to slash
put pFile into the last item of theFile
return theFile
end getPathToFile
--To use:
put getPathFile("My App.exe") into tFile
launch tFile
stop using stack "My App" --(Ooops. Corrected literal 'May' here in
my last message, this is not the problem)
end mouseUp
- - -
Does that help?
Adrian
On 2 Sep 2009, at 18:26, Phil Davis wrote:
So... maybe we should start at the beginning. The object in which
the error occurred is apparently named "OK". What does the code of
that object look like?
Phil Davis
Adrian Williams wrote:
Phil,
Already tried just 'end' - it gets the same error!
Adrian
On 2 Sep 2009, at 17:13, Phil Jimmieson wrote:
Hi Adrian,
at the end of the function definition, you only put "end" and the
name of the function - you don't include the parameter list.
On 2 Sep 2009, at 17:10, Adrian Williams wrote:
Len or anyone else have an answer to this,
'end FUNCTION' gives the error:
Handler: error in command
ObjectOK
LineFUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
HintFUNCTION
On 30 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Len Morgan wrote:
I"m hoping Trevor won't mind me sharing this little snippet of
code:
FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
put the filename of this stack into the theFile
set the itemdelimiter to slash
put pFile into the last item of theFile
return theFile
end FUNCTION getPathToFile
--To use:
put getPathFile("My App.exe") into tFile
launch tFile
That should do it.
len morgan
Ideas?
Thanks,
Adrian
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Re: Launch another app from my standalone
You need end, and the name of the function you're ending (but not the
word "function").
FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
put the filename of this stack into the theFile
set the itemdelimiter to slash
put pFile into the last item of theFile
return theFile
end getPathToFile
On 2 Sep 2009, at 17:16, Adrian Williams wrote:
Phil,
Already tried just 'end' - it gets the same error!
Adrian
On 2 Sep 2009, at 17:13, Phil Jimmieson wrote:
Hi Adrian,
at the end of the function definition, you only put "end" and the
name of the function - you don't include the parameter list.
On 2 Sep 2009, at 17:10, Adrian Williams wrote:
Len or anyone else have an answer to this,
'end FUNCTION' gives the error:
Handler: error in command
Object OK
LineFUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
HintFUNCTION
On 30 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Len Morgan wrote:
I"m hoping Trevor won't mind me sharing this little snippet of
code:
FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
put the filename of this stack into the theFile
set the itemdelimiter to slash
put pFile into the last item of theFile
return theFile
end FUNCTION getPathToFile
--To use:
put getPathFile("My App.exe") into tFile
launch tFile
That should do it.
len morgan
Ideas?
Thanks,
Adrian
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Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Oops, I meant to say you don't include a parameter list, or the word
"function" again.
On 2 Sep 2009, at 17:13, Phil Jimmieson wrote:
Hi Adrian,
at the end of the function definition, you only put "end" and the name
of the function - you don't include the parameter list.
On 2 Sep 2009, at 17:10, Adrian Williams wrote:
Len or anyone else have an answer to this,
'end FUNCTION' gives the error:
Handler: error in command
Object OK
LineFUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
HintFUNCTION
On 30 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Len Morgan wrote:
I"m hoping Trevor won't mind me sharing this little snippet of code:
FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
put the filename of this stack into the theFile
set the itemdelimiter to slash
put pFile into the last item of theFile
return theFile
end FUNCTION getPathToFile
--To use:
put getPathFile("My App.exe") into tFile
launch tFile
That should do it.
len morgan
Ideas?
Thanks,
Adrian
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Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Hi Adrian,
at the end of the function definition, you only put "end" and the name
of the function - you don't include the parameter list.
On 2 Sep 2009, at 17:10, Adrian Williams wrote:
Len or anyone else have an answer to this,
'end FUNCTION' gives the error:
Handler: error in command
Object OK
LineFUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
HintFUNCTION
On 30 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Len Morgan wrote:
I"m hoping Trevor won't mind me sharing this little snippet of code:
FUNCTION getPathToFile pFile
put the filename of this stack into the theFile
set the itemdelimiter to slash
put pFile into the last item of theFile
return theFile
end FUNCTION getPathToFile
--To use:
put getPathFile("My App.exe") into tFile
launch tFile
That should do it.
len morgan
Ideas?
Thanks,
Adrian
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Re: revlet and path
It seems that a number of system "globals" don't have values in revlets. I tried a small program to display the following: defaultfolder platform systemversion environment All of which seem to be empty in a revlet. On 6 Aug 2009, at 14:29, Tereza Snyder wrote: On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Yves COPPE wrote: Here is a very simple script : on mouseUp put empty into fld "resultat" set itemDel to "/" put item 1 to -2 of the effective fileName of this stack into tPath set itemDel to comma put tPath into fld "resultat" end mouseUp In the IDE, it gives the right path when I build a revlet, put it on my server and open it with Safari, it gives ... nothing ! fld "resultat" stays empty Any idea ? The stack file on your server isn't the one that's running. Like web pages, what the browser gets is a downloaded copy of the stack file. This copy lives in RAM, so its fileName will be empty. It sounds like this means that I can't reliably reference files—like external stacks or configuration files—'next to' my revlet on the server. Is this true? How about the value of 'the directory' or 'default folder'? How about referenced images? I routinely store application resources in a folder, 'resources', next to my apps that contain all kinds of stuff. I compute paths at startup depending on the effective filename. Do I have to change my architecture? t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another newb question - How to you clear a field?
Ah, another potential can of worms! Rev normally allows you to use unquoted literal names, except where they're reserved words in the language, or have weird characters in them that would be difficult to parse (like spaces etc). To err on the side of caution I usually always quote my field names (unless of course you're using a variable to refer to the name of a field). There's also a preference setting which switches Rev into a feature which demands quotes around literals. put "myfieldname" into thefieldtouse --sets up a variable with the name of the field I want put empty into field thefieldtouse --this is ok because thefieldtouse is a variable put empty into field "thefieldinquestion" --here thefieldinquestion is actually the name of the field, so I always quote it On 8 May 2009, at 10:59, Stephen Cox wrote: Heh. You know I tried that. But didn't use quotes. So I assume when referring to objects on cards you have to use quotes? On 5/8/09 5:54 AM, "Phil Jimmieson" wrote: put empty into field "yourfieldname" ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Another newb question - How to you clear a field?
Hi Stephen, if the field is on your current card then you only need to put empty into field "yourfieldname" You only need to add more specific details if you're referring to some other card and/or some other stack put empty into field "yourfieldname" of card "thatcard" of stack "theotherstack" On 8 May 2009, at 10:52, Stephen Cox wrote: If you only have 1 stack do you have to include the stack ID? On 5/8/09 5:48 AM, "stephen barncard" wrote: put empty into fld x of stack b - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/5/8 Stephen Cox Don¹t hate me for asking another nub question. ;) I am reading the docs. But this language is so different then what I am used to it¹s hard to phrase searches correctly. Ok, so how do I clear the contents of a field? Namely a text Field. I wanna offer a clear button. I¹ve been trying various forms of the Delete [Clear} Chunk command. But no luck so far. Then I thought maybe it was related to a property of the Text Field. And still no. Someone mind pointing me in the right direction? Much thanks, -Stephen Cox ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Tiemo, it looks like something is trashing the execute permissions between the Windows system and the Mac DMG. I always build my standalones on a Mac, so its not something I've come across. Presumably when Rev on Windows builds a Mac standalone, it gives the app it produces the equivalent of Windows execute access for all users (does Windows have this?), and when the app is then transferred to a Mac the different permissions system there is applied to match the Windows one. Or is it simply that when you copy a Mac app from a Windows file system to a Mac one, the Mac sets up execute permission for it automatically? Anyone know? On 17 Apr 2009, at 14:09, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Phil, you hit it! Setting the x permissions with sudo, made it. Now I still have two questions: 1. When looking in the info panel - permission settings, I only can choose "read" or "read & write", no "read & write & execute". Can I set the excecute permission only in the terminal by sudo or am I missing something? 2. When creating a new app, is this way by setting the x permissions with sudo the standard way to give everyone the permission to execute my app, or am I missing something in creating my standalone (on Win XP and transferring it to Mac to create a DMG)? Thanks for your coaching, have a nice WE! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 14:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, directories have a "d" at the start of their permissions, so that's ok. Some of the items inside your app folder are directories, and some are files. It does look like the execute permission for that second file you mention is missing for all users other than the owner - which might stop it from running. If you use the chmod command I mentioned in the previous posting it won't change the "d" bit of the permissions of directories (the command *adds* permissions - that's what the a+ bit of it is for). As long as you're in the correct folder when you issue the chmod command (the app's own bundle folder) it ought to be impossible to damage any other applications or files, and you can always replace that copy with another unmodified one to get you back to where you were before... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Tiemo, directories have a "d" at the start of their permissions, so that's ok. Some of the items inside your app folder are directories, and some are files. It does look like the execute permission for that second file you mention is missing for all users other than the owner - which might stop it from running. If you use the chmod command I mentioned in the previous posting it won't change the "d" bit of the permissions of directories (the command *adds* permissions - that's what the a+ bit of it is for). As long as you're in the correct folder when you issue the chmod command (the app's own bundle folder) it ought to be impossible to damage any other applications or files, and you can always replace that copy with another unmodified one to get you back to where you were before... On 17 Apr 2009, at 13:29, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Phil, thank you for your extensive explanation. In opposite to your tutorial my files have two different permission setting: drwxrwxrwx (leading "d" ?) e.g. the bundle.app -rwxrw-rw- e.g. The execute of my app Because of the different number of chars to your advice I didn't executed the sudo command. Any idea? Thanks Tiemo You will hopefully now see all the individual elements that make up your app, and the permissions related to each one. On the app I had all were set to "rwxrwxrwx" - which gives all permissions to everyone. If yours doesn't have that you can set it as follows: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Tiemo, certain parts of the application have to have execute access too. I think somehow the permissions got messed up when the app was transferred to the Mac. The app itself is just a folder containing a number of other files, any one (or more) of which could have its permissions messed up. I just checked one of my apps and every single file (and folder) inside of it has full permissions (read, write and execute) to all users - not what I was expecting - though it does mean the app runs... If you don't mind using the terminal you could try the following (don't type the quotes - I put them in to try to separate the commands from the other text). Hopefully you can still retrieve a copy of the original app in case this or the previous attempts to make it work mess it up further. Start the terminal and type "cd" and a space. Open a Finder window to see a view of your application. Click and then drag your application icon across into the terminal window (this should add the full path to the location of your app to the cd command you previously typed). Go back to the terminal (click in its window) and press return. This should now run the cd command and set the terminal's current directory to be inside the application bundle folder for this app. Type "pwd" and press return This should show you the current working directory - which now should be inside the folder that represents the app (probably something like "/Applications/yourappname.app". If it isn't, don't try the sudo chmod command below - you could mess up all sorts of other files. Type "ls -lR" and press return (that's lower case L, lower case S, space, minus, lower case L and upper case R) You will hopefully now see all the individual elements that make up your app, and the permissions related to each one. On the app I had all were set to "rwxrwxrwx" - which gives all permissions to everyone. If yours doesn't have that you can set it as follows: Type the following command while still in the same directory that you were in when you did the ls command previously (you could repeat the "pwd" command just to be sure). "sudo chmod -R a+rwx *" (the last bit is a star character). This means as a super user (admin user), change the access permissions recursively (the -R bit) to add read write and execute for all users to any files and folders in the current directory. You'll be asked for your password - you have to be an admin user to run this command. If you enter your password correctly, all the files and folders inside your app should now be read, write and execute to everyone. Only your app's enclosing folder hasn't been changed by this command. If your app still doesn't work, then I'm not sure what else to suggest! Good luck! On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:57, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Phil, it says: permission denied, exited with exit code:1 any idea, why the permission is denied if I have read - write to everyone? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Jimmieson Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 11:40 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? Hi Tiemo, can you have a look at the console application (in your applications/ utilities folder) - and check for all messages or console messages to see if there's any information about why your rev app didn't start up? It might give a hint about what's happening. On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:16, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello Kay, that really sounds almost the same as Peters case, but seems not to be. I run the check and the repair permissions, but my app wasn't even listed. I build my standalone on Win, and took it from the network onto my Mac, where I created a DMG. So no zip is involved. But it must be a permission thing, because with my admin user it runs fine, it just doesn't launches with a standard user, though I now put a "system" user as the owner and gave read-write to everyone. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?
Hi Tiemo, can you have a look at the console application (in your applications/ utilities folder) - and check for all messages or console messages to see if there's any information about why your rev app didn't start up? It might give a hint about what's happening. On 17 Apr 2009, at 10:16, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello Kay, that really sounds almost the same as Peters case, but seems not to be. I run the check and the repair permissions, but my app wasn't even listed. I build my standalone on Win, and took it from the network onto my Mac, where I created a DMG. So no zip is involved. But it must be a permission thing, because with my admin user it runs fine, it just doesn't launches with a standard user, though I now put a "system" user as the owner and gave read-write to everyone. Any other idea? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Kay C Lan Gesendet: Freitag, 17. April 2009 10:22 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac? On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Jacqueline, there was no user "system", so I created it and set it to the owner of my app. But without result. When starting my app with another standard user, the icon zooms for a moment and then nothing happens, no launch. Any other idea? Have you tried Repairing Permissions? HD/Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility Start it up, select the HD and click the Repair Disk Permissions button. It may take a while (10 min or more depending on how many GB of data you have and how long it's been since it's been run.) After it is finished, review the output to see if your application was named as needing repair. If it was, it's probably worth while running the repair again to confirm it doesn't come up again. For reference, this sounds very much like a problem Peter Brigham suffered with his Gutenberg Reader stack back at the end of Feb. If you have the facilities to search the List archives I suggest you take a look - search Gutenberg Reader. After some 20 posts Sarah Reichalt provided the solution; seems the standalone had been made on Win and turned into a ZIP file, then sent to Macs. This created the odd permissions error. Sarah suggested turning the standalone into a DMG file for Mac users. Once this was done it solved the permissions errors a few Mac users were experiencing. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution
Hi John, if you rename the original presentation (or make a copy and then change the name of that), so that the filename extension is "pps" rather than "ppt" you get what is called a PowerPoint show - which autostarts when you open it and doesn't display any of the usual PowerPoint stuff (on my Mac I get the PowerPoint splash screen, then its straight into the presentation). On 16 Apr 2009, at 10:38, John Miller wrote: Greetings All, I am trying to write a script that will allow the user to open and show a powerpoint presentation and then give control back to revolution when finished. I am currently using the launch command, but don't like seeing all the PowerPoint startup items. The presentation runs OK, but when it is done, it closes the presentation and shows the regular PowerPoint development windows. My end users do NOT want to convert their presentation to a batch of jpegs. They would prefer just showing the PP presentation and then come right back to their runtime app. Can this be done? John Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: How to recognize a double layer drive?
Hi Tiemo, as far as I know, DL disks have been in the DVD specification since almost the start, so all players should play plant-pressed ones (just like the movie DVD's you can buy). I know that some early DVD players/ writers cannot play DL disks that were produced directly from a DL DVD writer though. That bit of the specification came along later I think. On 3 Feb 2009, at 08:52, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello, I am to publish an app on a double layer DVD-ROM. Now I came to the question of the system requirements. Does anybody know how to recognize, if my DVD-drive can play DL discs? Or can all DVD-drives play DL discs since the "beginning". I really don't know, but would like to tell my customers if not and how they can check, if they have a compatible drive. Any experiences with this? Win/Mac Thanks for any idea Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looking for ugly code comparisons WAS: Slashdotter looking for kids' programming language
Maybe we need a synonym for "the ... of me" - how about something like "my"? put my text into xx set my hilite to true etc. On 12 Dec 2008, at 12:08, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Señor diablo, The child in me agrees; and I was always better at math than reading. Joe Wilkins On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:52 AM, Dave Cragg wrote: On 12 Dec 2008, at 00:48, Judy Perry wrote: I just want to show people that you can do things easier -- and certainly easier for a child -- in Rev than in all those other languages being suggested. I'll play Devil's Advocate. There seems to be some assumptions about what is easier for a child. One of these assumptions is that a "simple English-like syntax" is simpler than other kinds of syntax. I wonder if that is not an adult prejudice. Compare these two ways of representing properties: the text of me me.text I'd argue that the second is more visually representative of what we are trying to express. The dot becomes a "joining symbol" which is more easily remembered than the strange syntax of space + of + space. And what on earth is "the" all about? Perhaps I'm saying that Rev is a great language for old people to take up. :-) Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson p...@liverpool.ac.uk (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Jan Schenkel's merge tutorials
On 21 Nov 2008, at 18:16, J. Landman Gay wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: Jan, many thanks - great tutorials, very illuminating. I have to agree, I was thunderstruck. Jan, a Word export would be perfect for my current project, but I need to know how to incorporate images into the rtf file. Do you know how, or do I have to do my own research? Would sure appreciate any tips you may have. I'd love to be able to export reports as Word-compatible RTF - complete with images. I've requested that feature in the quality centre: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4231 The ideal would be if Rev could save the images as RTF directly, alternatively, if the RTFText could at least contain a reference or comment to say that an image is present, that would be useful (then I'd have to roll my own image to RTF code). At the moment, there's no sign in the RTF at all that there are images in the field. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Problem with mask
Hi Wilhelm, if you take the %22 off the end of the link to the rev document, it works from here. The link to http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ also works from here. On 21 Oct 2008, at 10:50, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: I had already told you in my last post that I could not download your stack http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/MaskingToEllipse.rev <http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/MaskingToEllipse.rev%22 > and only get a "no such card" message in the msg. And I also cannot establish a connection to your website http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ <http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/MaskingToEllipse.rev%22 > or http://home.infostations.net/ <http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/MaskingToEllipse.rev%22 > What I get are "timed out" alerts, both from my Windows machine and my Mac. Maybe it is a bandwidth problem? Could you upload your stack elsewhere (RevOnline?)? Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OS X Application icon corrupted by V3 standalone maker?
Hi folks, I've just started using Rev version 3 (with GLX2) to make standalones for OS X and Windows, and noticed that on OS X my custom application icon didn't appear. At first I thought it was the usual lazy Finder scenario where you had to zip and unzip the file or one of the other magic invocations to get the icon recognised, but nothing worked. I then opened up the App package and found that the "Revolution.icns" file which contains the icon for the App would not open with Preview - it reported the file as being damaged or in the wrong format. Checking with an App created with Rev 2.9, the same icns file there opens ok. My source custom icns file opens ok so it looks like something is corrupting it when its being copied into the package. Has anyone else seen this? As a workaround, I've copied my custom icns file by hand and replaced the corrupted one in the package (and that works ok), but if the standalone maker is corrupting it I will report it as a bug. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Saving a field containing text and images
Quoting Éric Miclo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello Richard, Well, I'd like to save the field in RTF with images embeded so other apps could open it. The problem is that I don't know how to add an image to a RTF file. I've played with base64Encode, imageData, etc without result. In fact I have no idea in what format the image has to be encoded to add it at a RTF file. Do you have some example? I'll continue to search on the net, but so far I didn't find something usefull. Hi Éric If you find anything useful it'd be good to see it here. In the meantime, if you'd like Revolution to be able to save the images in a field along with the text when you retrieve the RTFtext of a field, you could consider voting for this enhancement request: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=4231 Le 25 août 07 à 17:33, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Éric Miclo wrote: I've made some testing by saving the field's htmlText , but after that you need to export all the images and it can lead to the creation of a huge number of files. I'd prefered saving all in a rtf, but here I don't know how to do it. If you need these files to be opened with other apps, then something like RTF would be the way to go. Given all the support Rev has built-in for things like base64, imageData, etc., I would imagine one could write RTFs with embedded images without much trouble. Of course if you want these displayable in your app too you'll need to write an RTF parser than pulls the images back out again when reading. I'll have to have a look and see how difficult it would be to write something to save an image as RTF. It would be very useful for my major Rev project. -- Phil Jimmieson The University of Liverpool, Computer Science Dept, Ashton Bldg, Ashton Street, Liverpool L69 3BX 0151 795 4236 This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT on Windows
On 16 Jul 2007, at 08:06, David Glasgow wrote: I was just putting the finishing touches to a product for a client when, on impulse, I 'sexed it up' with a little .mov in the standalone splashscreen. I use playstopped to trigger showing the splashscreen proper. This works fine on Mac, reliably running wherever I place the enclosing folder. The same can't be said for Windows. With QT installed, some boxes run it fine, and some don't. It sometimes behaves as if the filename of the movie isn't valid even though it is always contained within the same folder, and double clicking the movie launches QT as expected. I don't have time to work out why this is the case, so I decided to just skip the movie if it isn't going to run, and show the buttons and information fields which form the business end of the splashscreen. This has proved more difficult than I expected. I use Studio, so I can't debug in detail on Windows. Hi David, do you use a relative filename for the movie? If so, try getting the filename and turning it into an absolute one. I had a problem where quicktime movies with relative filenames would work on OSX and Mac OS9, but not on Windows - I managed to figure out the path was invalid (although it was the same relative path on both boxes). Check out bug 1161 in the quality control centre: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1161 (This all goes to confirm rule 437 of software development: "Never sex up a splashscreen on impulse, especially if you have just promised to deliver the product within the week") Sometimes the simplest things require the most code! -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Again - Player/Image Object "always buffer" Problems
On 22 Jun 2007, at 12:49, Dave wrote: Hi, I really can't get this to work, I've tried it under 3 different versions of RunRev and they all crash the IDE when setting the "alwaysBuffer" flag to true. This is a repeatable, crashing bug with the stacks and system I have here, I can't reproduce it in a simpler form since the App I am developing has evolved over the last 6 months or so and the stacks involved have to be called in a certain order for the system to functions correctly. Given that I am about to miss the deadline on this, what would you suggest I do? Hi Dave, why not invest in a support package from Run Rev? Check out <http://support.runrev.com/pricing/support_info.php> I've not had the need to use this myself (thanks to help from people here from time to time), but if you're truly stuck then getting the people who wrote the software to help you seems the best way, and the costs don't seem too great either. I really need some answer as to why setting the "alwaysBuffer" flag causes a crash. If you remember we had problems with this when using the export snapshot command which you helped to solve. I don't mean this to sound as a threat because it's not intended that way, but if we are going to keep having these type of problems with RunRev, we will just have to drop it. I've worked hard to get it accepted at my place of work and have done a pretty good job so far, but when I am missing deadlines as a direct result of using RunRev things *have* to change. I have managed to get RunRev as the #1 development IDE for the Mac and have gone a long to to influence the Windows team, it's a pity because if we could just get over these silly problems the company would most likely adopt RunRev. I need some *proper* support on this or else it's just not worth it. Given that the problem that's causing you grief seems to be something that hasn't really come up before, and isn't affecting a lot of users its not surprising that it hasn't been treated as a priority. I've used alwaysbuffer with movies in Rev 2.7x and never had a problem, so there must be something special going on that's causing a problem for you. If its important to you that it get fixed, or you get a workaround, then you may need to invest in some proper support. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A daft idea about using a printerserver to import video . . .
Quoting Richmond Mathewson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: However, did a bit of digging on the internet and found this: http://www.keyspan.com/products/usb/server/homepage.spml which is a USB to Ethernet server that functions for all sorts of peripherals. Have to settle down and read through the PDFs. The Keyspan server might be "just the ticket". I've got one of these, and they are excellent for peripheral sharing - I've got 3 printers attached to it, and one scanner and they can be accessed essentially from any computer on the network with the special software installed (so probably not linux systems). I think keyspan haven't made a usb 2 version though, so it may be a bit slow for some stuff, and it isn't compatible with every usb peripheral - I've used it with 3 different kinds of printer and a scanner without problems though. To the computer, it just looks like the device is directly attached. The fact its going via a network is completely transparent. -- Phil Jimmieson The University of Liverpool, Computer Science Dept, Ashton Bldg, Ashton Street, Liverpool L69 3BX 0151 795 4236 This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
anyone used Rev to write Windows file comments or other metadata?
My Rev app writes documents that only it can open, and I was trying to think of a way of indicating what's inside a document (can't change the name unfortunately) when I spotted the Windows file comment field (among others), which shows up in a tooltip in Windows equivalent of the Mac's Finder. Basically if you get a file's properties, and click the summary tab, you get a set of fields - metadata about a file, which you can edit. I'd like to do this from within Rev. I've had a look in the registry and can't see the comment etc. there, so I'm assuming it must be stored in some other structure. Has anyone tried to modify or create a file's comment using Rev, or know where the information is stored and have any idea how to access it? -- Phil Jimmieson The University of Liverpool, Computer Science Dept, Ashton Bldg, Ashton Street, Liverpool L69 3BX 0151 795 4236 This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bug with token chunk type?
This: put token 1 of "s800" ...returns "s800", but this: put token 1 of "800s" ...returns "800". bug? Hi Richard, Variables or commands/function names have to start with a letter, though they can contain numbers. Numbers can't contain letters (except for the hex variety). Parsing the string "s800" gives a valid variable/command/function name. Parsing "800s" gives a valid number, with an "s" left over. Does that sound like a reasonable explanation for the behaviour? -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange code problem
Can anyone tell me why the code in red will work if I "Step" through it but as soon as I let it run normally I will get blank results?? It seems to "skip" the second repeat but if I put an answer msg in it, it reaches the answer msg! Hi Nic, I don't think you're allowed to use split with a "for each"variable - you're not allowed to modify the contents of a "for each" variable yourself, and split effectively munges it into an array, which causes all sorts of weird problems. This has hit me before in my own code. Try the modified code below: put "truckRegNo,totalFuel,totalKM,month" into tHeadings split tHeadings with comma put "1,2,3,4" into tColumns split tColumns with comma put the number of lines in thisOne into sRecordCount -- "thisOne" is a variable which contains comma seperated values like:- B456ADF,1000,2500,2 put 0 into x answer thisOne repeat for each line thisLine in thisOne put thisLine into workingline --use a copy of thisLine split workingline with comma --answer x add 1 to x repeat for each element thisE in tColumns put tHeadings[thisE] into tHeader put workingline[thisE] into tDetail[x,tHeader] --answer sColumn[thisLine,tHeader] end repeat end repeat -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: lost everything, macbook and its HD broken.
Hi Andre, have you tried removing the drive from your MacBook (easy to do with the new laptops) and seeing if the machine will boot from CD/DVD without it? If not then the machine is dead, and your disk may be recoverable. For that you'd need someone with an equivalent MacBook that you could put your messed-up (not dead we hope) drive into. You could firewire mount that onto yet another Mac system and copy your home filestore onto that, or back it up onto DVD-R. I've done variations on this in the past to recover dead systems. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 3BX http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RunRev logos
On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: [snip] The license still 'encourages' us to place these logos. U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps? and some of the logos seem very messed up (the small pct, png and gif) - it looks like the image has been scaled to make it smaller than the full size version, but there's a white cutout that's still the full size and the image is being drawn onto that. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constraining the pointer within a rect
Greetings This is my annual mailing on this topic. I won't bore you with why I need to do this deprecated act, but I do. Basically I need the pointer to refuse to move outside a rect, and just 'bounce' against the edge. No recoil or anything fancy, just stop until the user moves elsewhere with the rect. I had a script that worked in a standalone in 1.1.1. It was inelegant, but effectively. It became painfully slow and jerky in 2.x. Hi David, basically, this modified version of the script works: on mouseMove X,Y if the hilite of button "constrain" is true then put the rect of fld "container" into Fred put min (item 3 of Fred , max (item 1 of Fred, X)) into X put min (item 4 of Fred , max (item 2 of Fred, Y)) into Y get the globalloc of (X,Y) set the screenMouseLoc to it end if end mouseMove but it is *incredibly* slow on OSX (not tried on Windows). I'm not quite sure what it is that's slowing this down - does setting the ScreenMouseLoc send a MouseMove message itself? There's bound to be a better way of doing this? -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 795 4236 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Ashton Building, Ashton Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: stack on server very very slow
In several posts one can read, that a stack, when networked, can be slow, due to the "save" statement. I have a solution on a client computer and the stack is (now) on a server. Setup is OS X 10.4 After porting this stack to the server machine, it behaves very slow (more than 1000! times slower, than when this stack was on the client. There is no save command used. I assume that the whole stack is read in memory? There are less than 1000 cards in it (but they are procecessed a lot). Thanks for your hints! I should port this Tutorial-Game as server solution soon. Hi Andreas, there is a bugzilla report for slow saving, but its marked as Resolved, because Tuviah could not verify the bug, although it still exists for me (and now possibly you too). http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=81 In our setup, the server is a Unix system using Samba (not a true Windows server). What sort of server are you using? -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Split to Array on Repeat Skips Every Other Line??
Alex Tweedly wrote: Sivakatirswami wrote: OK, well I solved the problem by taking the split out of the loop to a function, now it works. But I still think this is a bug. No, I don't agree. The docs say very clearly Important! You cannot change the labelVariable in a statement inside the loop. Doing so will cause a script error. You can change the content of the container, but doing so will probably produce unexpected results. since "split" does change x (into an array, and to a different value), you're breaking the rule, and can't expect this to work. Hi Alex, thing is that this *used* to work in an earlier version of Rev. I can't remember which version broke it, but one day my scripts were working, and the next (after an update) they didn't... Took me a while to figure out what was going wrong (and I bugzilla'd it). It would be really helpful if the documentation explicitly mentioned that split on a foreach variable will have this effect. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows standalone crashes on exit
Hi folks, I've got a standalone created with Rev 2.21 which uses mysql and which runs perfectly on OSX, but on Windows, when I click the close box the window goes away and I get an Application Error dialog which says (more or less): "The instruction at "0x10001b0f" referenced memory at "0x014905c0". The memory could not be "read". Click on OK to terminate the program." This has only recently started happening, and it does coincide with a major bit of programming work on the app in question. Anyone got any ideas what could cause this sort of thing? I thought it might be related to queued messages (I've got a real-time clock on the card), but I cancel those in the closestack handler. I just can't think of what it might be. Revolution seems to have a few close-related messages (closestack, closestackrequest, shutdownrequest, shutdown) . Does anyone have a definitive recipe for handling closure via the close box on a stack window? -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing Text & Juxtaposed Images
Hi All, Is there some magic formula (or a later version of RR) needed to get text to print over &/or under an image without distortion? I've tried printing two different cards in different stacks using RR 2.1.2 & Mac OS 10.2 and RR 2.0b1 & Mac OS 9 [same HP printer]. In one stack, text over/under the transparent portions of a gif is distorted differently depending on whether the field containing the text is in a higher or lower layer than the image. In the other I am printing text in a transparent field over an image with a blendLevel of 80, and the text is printed with a white shadow around it [and remains so if blendLevel is set to 0. Hi Rob, check out http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1653 -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
odd slow-down for PC save stack
Hi folks, I've got a project that saves user preferences and textual details of the usage of the application into a mainstack and substacks separate from the main application stack. The main application stack and the user data stacks were developed on a Mac (using Rev 2.1.2 and 2.2). This system works fine on a Mac (and is almost instantaneous), but when I try it on a PC, the save (which occurs each time there's a piece of data generated by the application) seems to take an age (so long, that at first I thought the program had hung). Of course, this means that the application runs *very* *slowly* on a PC. If i run the application without saving any data, it runs at a reasonable speed. Can anyone think of a reason this slow down might be happening, and a way around it? -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: visual effects
I am having a little trouble with the visual effects command. With many of the effects (dissolve, open iris, etc.) the new card's image briefly flashes onto the card in its entirety before the "old" card comes back and then the desired effect takes place. Does anyone know why this might be happening or how to prevent it? Hi Paul, if this is under Windows, it's a known bug - reported to bugzilla - 1121 "Visual effects occur after the card transition has completed". -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Some strange Rev parsing problem?
set the textstyle of word 2 of line 7 of fld "source" to "bold" works great... Although... the definition of a word is buggy... Name="description" is apparently one word... and don't forget that all text inside double-quotes is treated as a single word. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Poetry (was Re: Height/width limit on groups?)
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 03:31 PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:
My scripts when I know no one will see them are more like
put as(mygrs, mygrp, 2233) into mydd1
which is just awful..
What are some good topics to associate with scripting of this nature?
with Rev's very cool object style you could stash a bunch of
functions that could allow you to make calls that actually do
something useful but sound completely off the wall. I love this
stuff too. I burnt all the free brain cells for today otherwise I'd
slap something together.
imagine this:
if the dog 8 my homework then
change my grade
end if
Which kind of brings to mind those people who write poetry in the
perl programming language. One quick Google later and I found this
fab example at http://perlmonks.thepen.com/Perl%20Poetry.html :
formline BY, $the_confessional;
pack "IN", $the_box;
bless $me, Father for @I_have_sinned;
time - $last_confession > 20 * 365 * 24 * 60 * 60;
my $father; $I, seek YOUR, $wisdom, $guidance and $support;
$I, sin and $wonder if exists $god{"in heaven"}, each %day;
$I, link "chains across the", exit; @the_orphanage;
$I, pop @children's_balloons for $fun;
$I, do { sleep $around };
$I, push @nuns, $with_a_broom;
$I, read MY_NEIGHBOR'S, $mail, 1 or 30, times, each %month;
$I, import and exp$ort, $illegal_goods;
$oh and local $police_are_looking for @me;
cos $I, kill$ed, $my_mother_in_law;
; tell ME_WHAT_SHOULD_I_DO;
my $son;
eval $your_situation and study $the_bible while $I, $the_police->();
, $Ummm ... wait while $I, split;
exit, $the_confessional;
join "the", @circus;
So, anyone up for writing some Transcript poetry? :-)
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Re: Visual Effects glitches (was Re: visual effect command help)
I didn't report it, so if it merits a bug report, feel free to submit it. Done! Bug #1121 - Visual Effects occur after the card transition has completed. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Visual Effects glitches (was Re: visual effect command help)
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 08:58 AM, Andy Burns wrote: The problem is when I flip back to the previous card (notepad page), I can see the previous card before the effect takes place. When I ran into this earlier on XP, it was suggested that I turn off using QuickTime. That worked, but the effects were a little rougher. I have also seen this on other platforms when I click through cards very fast. I'm seeing a similar problem on Windows 2000 - some visual effects appear after the card transitions have occurred. There's a similar problem with visual effects with an unlock screen. I can't turn off QuickTime because I also want to play some QuickTime movies... I'd assumed this was a known bug, but I can't find a reference to it in Bugzilla / RevZilla. Should I add it or is it there already? -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
anyone seeing a bug with for each and split when combined?
Hi folks, Using Rev 2.1.2 and OSX 10.3 I'm seeing the following odd behaviour: I have a text file which contains name=value1=value2 triples. I'm reading the whole file in and placing the file into a variable "temp", then using "repeat for each line" to get the lines, then splitting them using "=". This no longer seems to work reliably. If I let it run, some lines from the file don't get processed properly (or at least, they fail to split). If I run it under the debugger, it seems to work more reliably (depending on where I place the breakpoint). It's almost as though every other line is being junked. I changed the code to so as to put the number of lines of temp into another variable, and use a "repeat with"instead, putting each specific line of temp into a variable myself, and then doing the split. This works perfectly. Anyone else seeing this? It seems to have started happening only recently. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tools palette
Sarah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone else had the problem of the Tools palette disappearing and not coming back? Sometimes, it just disappears. It is still ticked in the Tools menu and de-selecting/selecting it there does no good. Command-T doesn't help either - the only solution is to shut down Revolution and start it again. Hi Sarah, I've seen it too, with 2.01 on OSX 10.2.6. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 05:31 PM, Edwin Gore wrote: I don't think that they can honestly say that the studio product allows you to create applications for all supported platforms, since it's impossible to TEST the applications without using another one of the products. You have a point, but: show of hands -- who here has built an app for another platform without ever testing on that platform and had it just work? I've had minor cosmetic issues show up (dodgy fonts, windows drawn with a default background colour other than I expected) but I was able to fix these on the Mac - no windows IDE required. And who has had the exact opposite experience; serious platform-specific issues that required working on that platform to fix? I found that there was a problem with pathnames to quicktime files that only appeared under windows (it was in version 1.1.1 and I can't remember the details now). But suffice it to say that if I hadn't been able to debug the software under windows, it would have been *very* much harder to figure out what the problem was and code around it. You can build for OS X on other platforms, just not for OS <=9. Obviously this issue is getting smaller as time passes. But there are still a lot of people using OS9. Would you really want to unnecessarily cut them off from your potential audience? If you have to pay $800 more to be able to debug the software on OS9 when you're working on OSX then I imagine a lot of people just won't bother, so you won't get an OS9 version of the software. Personally I'd hate the loss of the ability to debug on any platform. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: setting pointer location
In a message dated 28/12/02 2:31:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having just posted a defence of moving the cursor in the context of measuring reaction times, I will now cite an example of when it is *very* irritating. My three button logitech mouseware does move the cursor to default buttons. Mostly OK, but sometimes it does it when an unexpected dialog pops up and I had just decided to click somewhere in the window which previously had the focus. The dialog is dismissed when I didn't even get the chance to read it, let alone decide my response. G. Hi David, I'm a bit late in replying to this (looong Xmas holiday). How about displaying an object before you display your set of buttons and getting the subject to move the mouse onto the object (or clicking it if you prefer)? If the object is placed such that it's in the centre of the not-yet-visible buttons this'll have the effect of getting the cursor into the correct place, but allowing the user to do it so not lose control of the mouse... This is an approach I took in a hypercard timed psych test with a touch-screen where I wanted the cursor out of the way of the buttons. -- Phil Jimmieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UK) 0151 794 3689 (Mobile) 07976 983164 Computer Science Dept., Liverpool University, Chadwick Building, Peach Street Liverpool L69 7ZF http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~phil/ I used to sit on a special medical board... ...but now I use this ointment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
