So long...

[jim sims]

So long and thanks for all the fish.

Ciao ciao.


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Re: The New FRelease

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On Nov 19, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

>> Intriguing, but a search for "Elsie four fiftyone" failed to turn up
>> anything I recognize.
>> 
> 
> LC 4 51 ?

;-)


It's a Koan, Richard.
And there ain't no ice cream in it.

:-)

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Re: OT: getting page hit-counts for on-rev account

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On Nov 19, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:

> How can one retrieve a count of the number of visitors to a specific web-page?

Quite often I use a service at http://statcounter.com/

It not only counts, but shows you the pages they were on, what order they 
traveled through, how long on each page, referral, and some other bits of 
information. Helpful for fine tuning entry/landing pages to larger sites. Free 
up to five hundred records (I think) but that simply means it keeps the most 
recent 500. For a price you can add more records and other features.

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Re: Audio Triggering + Mouse Event latency

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On Nov 16, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Richmond wrote:

> "Nostromo gamepad" he cackled manically for the 45th time . . .

Could you explain what you mean? I have no idea what you are talking about.

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Re: Audio Triggering + Mouse Event latency

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On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Fred Moyer wrote:

> I gather it would be quicker if I could get the foot pedal to generate a 
> keydown? Any ideas how to do this? How do you make an external mouse generate 
> a keydown instead of a mousedown?

Will a game controller help you?

Can a spacebar tap help you?

Can a modified Wacom Tablet work?

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App store audio blog discussion

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http://www.coreint.org/audio/CoreInt_34.mp3

Interesting discussion from well know developers
Daniel Jalkut is the founder of Red Sweater Software.
Manton Reece is the founder of Riverfold Software.

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Re: The siglum key explained.

[Jim Sims]

On Oct 29, 2010, at 6:31 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> I've never seen it that way. All my Mac keyboards have a tilde in that 
> position. International differences, maybe?



Yup, my UK English has the siglum and a plus/minus in the upper left corner.

There are UK, American, Universal (I think that's the name)  English keyboard 
versions.


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Re: Auto-updating apps, and splash screens.

[Jim Sims]

Alex - search the List archives for Chipp's updater, he has a few posts that 
outline what seems to be a good system and gives some excellent advice.

sims

---
On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote:

> 
> I have a little app that will be used on a number of computers, so I want it 
> to check for a new version being available, and update itself if needed (and 
> desired).  I know the easy way to do this is to have the executable be 
> basically a 'splash screen' that starts the *real* stack, and therefore the 
> real stack can be updated.
> Does anyone have a sample stack / app showing this ?
> 
> And, what do you as app users prefer
> 
> 1. The app automatically updates itself when a new version is available.
> 2. The app downloads the new version automatically, and then (next time?) on 
> startup asks if you want to install the update.
> 3. The app lets yo know there is a new version available, and asks if it 
> should download / install the update.
> 4. Something else.


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Re: [OT] Mac App Store

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On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Richmond wrote:

> where does that leave Kevin Miller, You and Me

Don't know about you or Kevin. I'm thinking Russian Riveria at Jumala, then 
Riga to S.Pb by train - Moscow -  trans-Sierian RR.  Yurts & horses.

Off the grid and onto the tracks.

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Re: Https, sslVerification, certificates - huh?

[Jim Sims]

Have you tried a web monitoring  tool?  So you can watch the traffic back and 
forth?

I use "Charles" on OS X.

sims

On Oct 25, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Terry Judd wrote:

> I don't think that's the problem. I know at least one of the sites has a
> session cookie but that doesn't seem to be involved in the initial
> authentication. One of the sites definitely doesn't use any cookies and I
> have the same problems even if I only try to connect to this site.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> 
> On 25/10/10 7:42 PM, "Jim Sims"  wrote:
> 
>> Maybe there is a cookie involved somewhere?
>> 
>> 
>> sims
>> ---
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Terry Judd wrote:
>> 
>>> Attention web gurus,
>>> 
>>> I’m probably going about it all wrong but I’m still struggling to retrieve
>>> data from a series of secure (https) websites. Each of these sites requires
>>> a username and password and I can post these along with the url and am able
>>> to retrieve the expected result but ONLY if I set libURLSetSSLVerifaction to
>>> false. If I don’t do this I get nothing back from the url – a blank result.
>>> While setting libURLSetSSLVerifaction to false gets things moving I suppose?
>>> that doing so means the transaction isn’t really secure?? I’ve tried setting
>>> the sslCertificates (by first loading the sites in Firefox and exporting the
>>> certificates) but that doesn’t seem to work. I’m moving well past my comfort
>>> zone with this stuff and am close to admitting defeat – but I really need to
>>> get this stuff working for a major edu project I’m working on.
>>> 
>>> Rev 4.5 – OSX 10.6
>>> 
>>> Any tips or ideas?
>>> 
>>> Terry...
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Medical Education Unit
>>> Melbourne Medical School
>>> The University of Melbourne
>>> 
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>> 
>> sims
>> 
>> 
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Re: Https, sslVerification, certificates - huh?

[Jim Sims]

Maybe there is a cookie involved somewhere?


sims
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On Oct 25, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Terry Judd wrote:

> Attention web gurus,
> 
> I’m probably going about it all wrong but I’m still struggling to retrieve
> data from a series of secure (https) websites. Each of these sites requires
> a username and password and I can post these along with the url and am able
> to retrieve the expected result but ONLY if I set libURLSetSSLVerifaction to
> false. If I don’t do this I get nothing back from the url – a blank result.
> While setting libURLSetSSLVerifaction to false gets things moving I suppose?
> that doing so means the transaction isn’t really secure?? I’ve tried setting
> the sslCertificates (by first loading the sites in Firefox and exporting the
> certificates) but that doesn’t seem to work. I’m moving well past my comfort
> zone with this stuff and am close to admitting defeat – but I really need to
> get this stuff working for a major edu project I’m working on.
> 
> Rev 4.5 – OSX 10.6
> 
> Any tips or ideas?
> 
> Terry...
> 
> --
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> Medical Education Unit
> Melbourne Medical School
> The University of Melbourne
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Re: [OT] Mac App Store

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I'm currently working on a project and now thinking of using the old CGI rev 
engine, not the plugin. 

You can do a lot with the CGI engine - even more if you throw a connecting 
standalone into the mix.

I was going to use a different setup but all seems clearer now.

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On Oct 22, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Richmond wrote:

> On 10/22/2010 12:58 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:
>> It will certainly become the most agnostic way to provide win-win next step 
>> solutions to agnostic customers ...
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Pierre
>> 
>> Le 22 oct. 2010 à 08:53, Jim Sims a écrit :
>> 
>>> The thought occurs to me that  Web Apps are looking far more attractive.
>>> 
>>> sims
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> It certainly would be the solution for programmers who are not prepared to 
> "jump"
> from Mac and Win to 'the dark side' of Linux - and why people seem so 
> frightened
> escapes me; but it does seem to be the case.
> 
> So; the next question we have to start asking is about the web-plugin, how 
> functional
> it is on
> 
> what platforms
> 
> and in
> 
> which browsers.
> 
> And . . . for real 'agnosticism' the plugin might have to cease being 
> PC-based and
> delivered in some other way . . .
> 
> i.e.: all browsers on all operating systems.
> 
> it certainly isn't 'agnostic' enough for DOS, RISC OS, MorphOS or Haiku . . . 
>  :(
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Re: [OT] Mac App Store

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The thought occurs to me that  Web Apps are looking far more attractive.

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Lion scrollbars

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Making apps approvable by the app store, as others have noted, might require 
changes by LiveCode/RunRev.

Scrollbars might need some serious makeovers:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/10/21/apple_leaks_new_scroll_bar_ui_details_in_mac_os_x_10_7_lion.html


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Re: [OT] Mac App Store

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On Oct 21, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Richmond wrote:

> market it your way

Sure, that's real easy to do.  f]pfff.

Good luck in that - getting lots of people to see your product is not easy.

At least when VersionTracker and MacUpdate were around you had a couple of 
central places where users would look for apps. You could also play the Mac web 
sites and blogs to get awareness and exposure every time you released a new 
version.

I have a hard time believing that lots of people are drooling at their chances 
of building a competitor store to go against  the AppStore.

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Re: [OT] Mac App Store

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On Oct 21, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> Ambrosia Software president Andrew Welch voiced similar concerns.
> 
>   "Ambrosia is certainly interested in the idea of a centralized
>   Mac application store,"

With VersionTracker gone, folded into download.com, download.com is abysmal as 
far as I am concerned, there isn't much left.

Apple is stepping in at the right time - for them.

What concerns me most (in addition to not getting customer information!), is 
the consumer of apps/software will probably be expecting iPhone/iPad prices. 

When I read a comment that "$1.99 is way too much" for something some guy 
worked really hard at, I shake my head.

This sort of expectation might be carried over - after all, to the consumer 
it's just like the iTunes store - to the "App Store".  You have to sell an 
awful lot of $1.99 apps to make rent money every month.

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Re: [OT] Mac App Store

[Jim Sims]

On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:01 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> Looks like staying in the Mac game is about to get more expensive for 
> everyone, from tool makers to developers and to some degree consumers as that 
> 30% tax starts to get spread around.

If this ends up like iPhone/iPad apps then prices drop to 99¢  for that app you 
spent months building. Then Uncle Steve takes his 30% - You get about 70¢ when 
you sell one. A few days go by and your app is buried under ten thousand other 
apps.

This does not sound like it's worth the effort.

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Re: Where can I found the Shaosean libs?

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On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

> err... folks, Shao Sean is a dudette and not a dude...

I think Scott or Richard explained "Dude" being for both... One of those 
California things I guess.

But yes, Shao Sean, her code rocks!

[Little Andre's running around... phew! I wish I could set up a streaming video 
of the wedding over the internet for you... that would be cool   ;-)   Congrats 
Andre!!]

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Re: Online Snippets library

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The List archives are full of them & excellent advice.

sims

On Sep 22, 2010, at 12:26 PM, AndyP wrote:

> 
> Is there an online code snippets library out there for Rev erm LiveCode?
> 
> Not full tutorials, we have them and they are great but just small chunks of
> code that individuals have used and tested. I know there is a lot of code
> out there but it's fragmented so a central snippet store I think would be
> useful.
> 
> If not I'm willing to get one up and running.
> 
> I'm thinking of having a tree type drill down to the snippets.
> 
> Anyone will be able to post thier snippets, suggest new categories etc. The
> inclusion would not be automatic as to stop bad (spam, porn) content each
> submission would have to be approved.
> 
> -
> Andy Piddock
> 
> 
> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
> -- 
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Web Deployment

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One of the items in the My Products list is titled  "Web Deployment".

Can anyone explain what that item refers to?  What that product, "Web 
Deployment" is?

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Re: Installing 4.0 on OS X gets error 565.1994

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On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Dar Scott wrote:

> I welcome any ideas on what I might try.

Place garlic and Ganesha statues in a ring around the machine.

Welcome back! 

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Re: Asus Eee PC and Rev app

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On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> 
> How are you getting the app onto that machine?

Initially the complex app was downloaded via browser from our server.
Then, after uninstalling it, tried from a small USB flash drive.

Then tried the "Hello World" simple test app from a flash drive.


> Is the file size the same as the original on another machine?

Yup, checked that also;-)

I'm going to followup with Andre's Quarantine suggestion, am sending the user 
an email right now. I was thinking the issue was a permissions one, maybe it 
the anti-virus stuff saving the user from using it.

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Re: Asus Eee PC and Rev app

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On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> Where the app is located shouldn't make a difference with regard to where 
> you're writing the data file.
> 
> That is, assuming you're not trying to save the compiled app itself, which 
> won't work on any platform because OSes don't allow it.

Right, one of the reasons I tried the one button "Hello World". About as simple 
as it gets. Doesn't run at all - no response when double-clicked. 

Doesn't open the app. Nothing happens.

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Re: Asus Eee PC and Rev app

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On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> I have an Atom-powered EeePC myself, but it's a much earlier model (901) and 
> is running Ubuntu Netbook Remix.  So while my experience with Asus netbooks 
> has so far been excellent, I don't have experience running Windows on it to 
> provide any feedback on that software side of things.
> 
> Have you tried temporarily writing to specialFolderPath("desktop") to see if 
> it saves there?  As a known user-writable folder I would expect that should 
> work, in which case it may just be the permissions of the directory you're 
> currently using to write t


Thanks for the reply Richard.

Yes, tried running from the desktop. I use the Ken Ray chart for folder naming 
by means of special numbers and that works well on my Win 7.

My Win 7 is the Ultimate version and he has the Home version, I hope that is 
not an issue.

I have tried setting permissions. I also set the permissions of the installer 
prior to running the installer.

Tried a simple "Hello World" one button app to rule out any issues that might 
be from my code. That does not run either.

I am hoping that if the netbook runs Windows then it should run a simple rev 
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Re: Asus Eee PC and Rev app [OFF-LIST]

[Jim Sims]

On Aug 23, 2010, at 3:38 PM, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:

> I can test on my Eee PC 1000H running Win7 tonight.  It is at home right
> now, but I will give it a try if you like.


Thanks Roger, I replied off-list to you with details.

TIA
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Asus Eee PC and Rev app

[jim sims]

I have a commercial app that wouldn't work on the following machine.
So, I made a simple "Hello World" test app with Rev 3.5, simple one button, one 
file app that saves no data for testing where the issue might be.

it runs fine on my XP and also my Win 7  Ultimate - no problem.

Doesn't work at all on the following machine. 

Anyone have any thoughts on how to fix this?

Is there anyone that has a similar machine and wouldn't mind testing a more 
sophisticated Rev app?

Asus Eee PC
Intel atom ION CPU 330  1.60GHz  
2Gb RAM
running windows 7 home premium

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Re: Code signing certificate

[Jim Sims]

On Aug 20, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

> On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:40 AM, Jim Sims wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone on this List actually use a Code signing certificate with apps 
>> they build in Rev?
> 
> Yes. I sign all of my ScreenSteps related desktop applications and installers.
> 
>> If so, would you explain how you do it?  IOW would you please describe the 
>> process for doing this for a Rev app?



> I'll see if I can get something posted by the end of next week the explains 
> the process.
> 
>> My guess is that nobody does.
> 
> That would be incorrect :-)

That would be awesome, thanks! Might make a great article for Richard's 
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Re: Code signing certificate

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On Aug 19, 2010, at 7:32 AM, Neal Campbell wrote:

> I am sorry thats probably true of that utility Go to microsoft.com and
> search on code signing and I am sure you will find many articles at all
> different levels and perspectives.

Ummm... Thanks Neal. 
-

Does anyone on this List actually use a Code signing certificate with apps they 
build in Rev?

If so, would you explain how you do it?  IOW would you please describe the 
process for doing this for a Rev app?

My guess is that nobody does.

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Re: Code signing certificate

[Jim Sims]

On Aug 19, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Neal Campbell wrote:

> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8s9b9yaz.aspx

Please forgive my ignorance, but are you suggesting that I would need to use a 
.NET development thingy?

sims


> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Jim Sims  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks very much. Once you get the certificate how do you attach it?
>>> 
>>> Bill Vlahos
>> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I'd like to know more about this topic.
>> 
>> How does it get attached (or whatever the term is)?
>> 
>> sims
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Re: Code signing certificate

[Jim Sims]

On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

> Thanks very much. Once you get the certificate how do you attach it?
> 
> Bill Vlahos

Bill,

I'd like to know more about this topic. 

How does it get attached (or whatever the term is)?

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Re: Rodeo, revServer etc.

[Jim Sims]

On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
> we're all together here, 

> I won't say I will miss you guys because I know you are not leaving... :-)


Hey Sarah, 

This List has Life, and you are one of the most alive persons around.

I'm looking forward to learning more from you here.

Life is Good.

CU,
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currency format

[jim sims]

I don't seem to be able to find any information about currency formatting in 
Rev.

I'm adding up numbers to get a sum for currency use.

So, am I right to assume that when doing something with currency like Sweden 
for example, I would swap the dot (decimal point) for  comma (for decimal 
point) when I display the number (post calculations)?

Same goes for the opposite case if a thousands marker for example - switch it 
to a dot?


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Re: getting the selected language

[Jim Sims]

On Jul 29, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
> 
> Jim, you can try the "language specs" stack on my site that retrieves
> language info for Mac/Win systems:
> 
> 
> 
> I haven't tested on Win7, but assuming Win7 is a lot like Vista it should
> work.

Nice, thanks. Thanks for testing on Win7 Damien.


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Re: getting the selected language

[Jim Sims]

On Jul 29, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Damien Girard wrote:
> In NativeSpeak 1.x, I wrote (with the help of Trevor) that function:
> 
> function dptGetLang
>  -- Returns the language



Thanks Damien (also Mr. Slug), but is it really that hard to get it in Windows?

Jeeez. wow.


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getting the selected language

[jim sims]

To get the selected language in OS X it seems that the following works well:

put replaceText(shell("defaults read NSGlobalDomain 
AppleLanguages"),"(\s|\(|\))","") into theLanguagesList


How does one get the same information on a Windows machine?

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Re: Quality Control Center - handling of bug reports

[Jim Sims]

On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Kevin Miller wrote:

> There will be a completely new approach to bug management introduced at the
> point that we ship 4.5. We'll elaborate on the details when we introduce it.

Sometimes when one goes through painful and chaotic periods in one's life they 
come out with fresh, vital, perceptive views on things. Clarity and perspective.

Thank you Kevin for what seems to be a new approach, several new approaches 
really, on how Rev does things. Thank you, thank you.

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Re: [OT-Rodeo] Still waiting for the aha moment

[Jim Sims]

I'm curious about how much of what Rev standalones can do can be transferred to 
a web app?

Any guidelines/rules/suggestions on that?

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Re: Rev CGI and saving time of event in users time

[Jim Sims]

On Jun 23, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

> Yo Sims,
> 
> If this is coming from a HTML form, you can add a hidden field there and use
> some javascript magic to write the current time there on form submission.

Thanks! I was thinking of the user clicking on a web page button image  but 
that could also be a sneaky submit button. 

Thanks!

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Rev CGI and saving time of event in users time

[jim sims]

I'm using a Rev CGI on my server. I am not using iRev, but the older Rev CGI.

When a user clicks, asking for a file, I want to save the time of that event 
using the users time. In other words, not the server's location time but what 
the user would see wherever they are.

Am I correct in thinking that the way to do this is to have a preference saved 
for the user telling me what his time is relative to UTC and then calculate 
using the time that would be indicated by the server (using a script on the 
server via the Rev CGI stack)?


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Re: encryption ciphers

[Jim Sims]

On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

> It's also a question of how valuable to others your resources are. "How to 
> make a car run on seawater" is a document very valuable to a great many 
> people, both those who want to exploit it, and those who want to make it go 
> away. "How to put gas in your tank" not so much. All of them are going to be 
> greatly tempted to defeat whatever security you have. 
> 
> AES256 is about the best publicly available encryption you can get your hands 
> on. It's generally considered much better than kidnapping the head engineer 
> and giving him truth serum while torturing his cat. 

Thanks for the reply Bob.

Not even close to the seawater example  ;-)

One of my concerns was it being able to work on OS X AND Windows with no extras 
needed.

I do recall that years ago anything beyond a certain strength might be banned 
in the USA, is that still an issue? Is 256 legal for the USA?

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encryption ciphers

[jim sims]

I'm going to use an encryption feature in a project but I want to make sure it 
will be available for OS X and for WIndows machines.

A wide variety of encryption ciphers seem to be available when I do "put the 
cipherNames"

I have little knowledge about the merits or availability of ciphers, can anyone 
provide recommendations for a particular cipher and perhaps some reason why 
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Re: Secure file delete

[Jim Sims]

On Jun 12, 2010, at 4:29 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

> I remember reading a suggestion on the list about creating a file with dummy 
> information to overwrite an existing file. This way the original file will be 
> zeroed out so there is nothing to undelete.
> 
> Unfortunately I can't find the email and was hoping that someone could 
> clarify how to do this.
> 
> The reason for this is the next version of InfoWallet will support encrypted 
> and password protected attachments but for someone to view an attachment it 
> will have to be saved to disk unprotected and then launched. I want to 
> securely delete the temporarily saved unprotected file.


Might have been me.

My client wanted me to take steps to keep people from saving small video files 
that were used by the app, make it very difficult for users to play them 
outside the app.

I placed all the videos into user properties - then to view the video, a temp 
file was made and that file used the data from the user property to make the 
video - after playing the video I would delete the file. 

I noticed that on rare occasions the file would appear in the trash on a 
reboot, inside a folder (perhaps the folder was named "saved" or "rescued" 
items?).

So, I changed my script so that before I deleted the file I would write over 
the file with a simple single phrase, thus destroying the video and changing it 
to a simple text file. 


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Re: Shell Command with Sudo

[Jim Sims]

On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Justin Sloan wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I am trying to run a shell() command in revStudio in order to execute some 
> terminal commands as the superuser on a Mac. An Ubuntu terminal will accept 
> the superuser password using a pipe, such as "pass | sudo -S command", but 
> Mac's terminal will not accept the password on the same line.
> 
> Is there a way to run multiple commands from a single rev shell() call? Or, 
> can I somehow followup a shell() call with the password?

I went to  http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/info.html
In the search field I put:multiple shell commands os x

It returned a few items that might be of help for you, at least worth a try:

---
As an alternative solution, one could use multiple shell commands
separated by a semi-colon:

get shell("cd /etc/ ; ls")
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Re: Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for anupdated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audiocomplementary library!)

[Jim Sims]

On Jun 5, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote:

> I did not get any feedback from the bass guys yet. Maybe somebody else was 
> more lucky?

According to the BASS forum an iPhone version has been released.

"There have been quite a lot of requests for the iPhone version recently, so 
it's probably about time that it was made publicly available. Well, here it 
is...

   www.un4seen.com/stuff/bass24-iphone.zip (updated: 23 Apr '10)"


I wonder if having that already done might make it easier for them to at least 
make an OS X version or wrapper for us to use with Rev. 


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Callbacks

[jim sims]

When using callback with an audio file in a player object I seem to get slight 
variations on when that callback actually happens.

Does anyone have some thoughts on how I might obtain more consistent callbacks? 


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Getting an Audio Plugin Created ( was RE: [audio] Call for anupdated enhanced quicktime audio library ora small audiocomplementary library!)

[jim sims]

There was some discussion about Using BASS as an audio plugin a short while ago.

Several other audio solutions were also mentioned.

Does anyone now if some sort of communication has taken place about getting a 
plugin or wrapper produced so something more sophisticated for audio can be 
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Re: VLC and Rev

[Jim Sims]

> 
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Glen Bojsza  wrote:
> 
>> I was wondering if anyone has done any work with VLC and Rev?
>> 
>> If so, can you share your experiences!


I just Googled VLC and scripting, there is a limited amount of scripting you 
can do with VLC  but you can do somethings.

The following is a combo of applescript and shell I found on Google.

sims



property timefromnow_time : date
on run
display dialog "Do you want the simpsons to end after a number of 
minutes?" buttons {"No", "Yes"}
copy the result as list to {button}

if button is "no" then
do shell script "/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC 
/var/root/T.V.\\ Programs/The\\ Simpsons > /dev/null 2>&1 & echo $!"

else if button is "yes" then
display dialog "Do you want to Shutdown or Quit?" buttons 
{"Quit", "Shutdown"}
copy the result as list to {button}

if button is "Quit" then
set quitresponse to display dialog "Number of minutes 
until Quit?" default answer "60"
set timer to (text returned of the quitresponse) as 
number
set timefromnow_time to (current date) + (timer * 
minutes)
display dialog "The simpsons will quit in: " & 
timefromnow_time as string
do shell script 
"/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC /var/root/T.V.\\ Programs/The\\ 
Simpsons > /dev/null 2>&1 & echo $!"
set pid to the result
do shell script "sleep " & (timer * minutes) as string
do shell script "kill " & pid & ""

else if button is "Shutdown" then
set shutdownresponse to display dialog "Number of 
minutes until Shutdown?" default answer "60"
set timer to (text returned of the shutdownresponse) as 
number
set timefromnow_time to (current date) + (timer * 
minutes)
display dialog "This computer will shut down at: " & 
timefromnow_time as string
do shell script 
"/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/VLC /var/root/T.V.\\ Programs/The\\ 
Simpsons > /dev/null 2>&1 & echo $!"
do shell script "shutdown -h +" & timer as string & " 
Simpson shutdown"

end if
end if
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Re: Binary files inconsistency

[Jim Sims]

On May 25, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

> 
> The saved Pages or Keynote files have zero length. Why is that and how do I 
> make this work with any file?
> 

Aren't those actually folders and not simply files?

Would that affect what you are trying to do?

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Re: howto export a styled formated field to text file

[Jim Sims]

On May 23, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

> 1. : i'm able to apply style attribute to a field contents (example : in 
> changing the title line style font, wight, etc...)
> 2. : i'm, then, able to save this styled field contents as HTMLText or 
> RTFText and it's OK
> 
> Question : is it a way to retrieve 1.- from 2.- (HTMLText or RTFText back to 
> the initial styled attributes that i had applied to the field contents first) 
> ?



The dictionary does state:  

The RTFText property is a representation of the styled text of the field in RTF 
format.

Setting the RTFText of a field (or a chunk of a field) sets both the text 
contents and the font, size, style, and color attributes corresponding to the 
information in the RTFString. Any other formatting controls in the RTFstring 
are ignored.


To export and re-import field information without losing any style information, 
use the htmlText property instead.

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Re: howto export a styled formated field to text file

[Jim Sims]

On May 23, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:
> I'm building some sort of html editor. The htmltext function is very usefull 
> to output styled formated fields as HTML but my next need is to be able to 
> store the text styled formated field (before its conversion to HTMLText) for 
> future possible modification of the source text without having to rebuild all 
> its styled attributes (font, height, color, etc...) each time i reload it to 
> the field out of a text or database backup ?


I know that you do a lot of server work, so I'll base my answer on that.

I have a CGI Rev app and I store web page html and other bits of text/html as 
user properties. When my CGI app receives data, I splice what I want into these 
templates and place new bits into the web page for display.

For example, one is a signup info page, that sends names-email add-telephone 
etc and then that data gets added into a protected web page.

HTH

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Re: Nice OSX tip: creating an image with a desktop snapshot without scripting

[Jim Sims]

Oops...


Command-SHIFT-4-Space Bar captures the window under the cursor.

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Re: Nice OSX tip: creating an image with a desktop snapshot without scripting

[Jim Sims]

On May 15, 2010, at 10:37 AM, David Bovill wrote:

> Perhaps the coolest, most-secret hidden capture shortcut is
> Control-Command-Shift-3 (or 4), 



Control-Command-4-Space Bar captures the window under the cursor.

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Re: Android Culture

[Jim Sims]

On May 13, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Ian Wood wrote:

> http://www.android.com/market/ is the 'official' store from Google but can 
> only be viewed fully from an Android handset, and then the different carriers 
> sometimes have their own stores as well. There's then a few other sites 
> offering apps via sideloading.

Thanks for that.

After a quick glance at the top paid apps I suspect that Scott Rossi could rule 
Android Land.

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Android Culture

[jim sims]

I welcome my Android brothers and sisters - Long Live Android.

Being ignorant of Android behavior and where they can be found, would someone 
please tell me where I might find great places to see apps for them? Is the an 
Android-like iTunes store? Are there famous Android download sites?

I only have one of those silly mobiles that only do phone calls at the moment 
so all of this is new to me. So, I need to find out more about Android culture.

Are there Android users on this list? 

My only exposure to Android was last week when I had a couchsurfer staying at 
my flat. He had worked for Google in Europe but quit after one year 
(assimilating into Google Land was not his thing) and he had and Android 
mobile, free from Google. Much angst was expressed by him as it seemed to crash 
every now and then and he lost quite a few tourist type photos he'd taken. I 
hope Androids have advanced since his model. 

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Re: PDF import?

[Jim Sims]

On May 7, 2010, at 9:14 PM, William Roger Moseid wrote:

> Regarding diplaying PDF file in Rev:


By using command line qlmanage you can display a pdf file on OS X, much like 
one can in QuickLook. Evidently there is an issue about proper display of the 
title in the top of the window which might be an issue for you.

Check out the List archives for more on using qlmanage

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Re: sound volume - sound engineering

[Jim Sims]

On May 6, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:

> Identical, slightly out-of-sync signals used to be known as the "poor man's 
> 'stereo' remix".  It creates a very unconvincing false stereo "spread" that 
> really just succeeds in blurring the sound.  I have some really old 
> originally-mono LPs that were so "enhanced".  -Terrible!


What I'm attempting to do is to alter one copy of a sound file, then do a fade 
in/out from an original to the altered version. 

The reason/goal for all this is a long story...

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Re: sound volume - sound engineering

[Jim Sims]

On May 6, 2010, at 9:10 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

> The audio level control on the mac is not "tapered" for audio.  Physical
> volume controls on audio gear use a LOG taper. Once in a while one will run
> into a consumer product with a LINEAR taper volume control in the circuit -
> and you will notice it - most of the level change will appear in the first
> 30% of the taper.



Yikes! This is one of those "Be careful what you ask for" situations I think. 
Haven't soldered a pot since I made shortwave radios and listened to Voice of 
the Andes and Radio Moscow! 

I guess the simple answer, for me at least, is "Listen to the sound and adjust 
by ear" - don't trust numbers. YMMV

As for playing audio, I'm going to explore afplay, and some other options.

OS X 10.5 includes a command line audio player (in /usr/bin) called afplay. 
This is very useful if you want to play a sound file from the command line, 
shell script, Automator action, etc. The /usr/bin directory is in your path by 
default, so you can just type afplay file.mp3 to play that file. 

afplay makes use of Core Audio, so I think it can play any audio file that 
QuickTime supports (including mp3, aiff, wav, etc.). 

There's a very simple man page for afplay, which then tells you that help is 
available with afplay -h. There are a few interesting options, including the 
ability to play a defined (in time) segment of a file, and to play a file to a 
defined audio output device.

Thanks for the quick answers!

sims


The following is for the List Archives, just in case someone else is exploring 
the issue some day. 

  The List Archive is your friend ---
http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/potsecrets/potscret.htm

The human ear does not respond linearly to loudness. It responds to the 
logarithm of loudness. That means that for a sound to seem twice as loud, it 
has to be almost ten times the actual change in air pressure. For us to have a 
control pot that seems to make a linear change in loudness per unit of 
rotation, the control must compensate for the human ear's oddity and supply 
ever-increasing amounts of signal per unit rotation. This compensating 
resistance taper is accurately called a "left hand logarithmic taper" but for 
historical reasons has been called an audio or log pot. In these pots, the 
wiper traverses resistance very slowly at first, then faster as the rotation 
increases. The actual curve looks exponential if you plot resistance or voltage 
division ratios per unit of rotation.

If you used an audio/log taper pot for the control of the power supply we 
mentioned, the output voltage would increase very slowly at first, creeping up 
to maybe 10% of the final output at 50% of the pot rotation. It would then 
blast the other 90% in the last half of the rotation - very hard to control. 
Likewise, if we used a linear pot for volume control, the volume would come up 
dramatically in the first half of pot rotation, and then do very little change 
in the last half.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentiometer

Potentiometers are widely used as user controls, and may control a very wide 
variety of equipment functions. The widespread use of potentiometers in 
consumer electronics has declined in the 1990s, with digital controls now more 
common. However they remain in many applications, such as volume controls and 
as position sensors.

Linear potentiometers ("faders")
One of the most common uses for modern low-power potentiometers is as audio 
control devices. Both linear pots (also known as "faders") and rotary 
potentiometers (commonly called knobs) are regularly used to adjust loudness, 
frequency attenuation and other characteristics of audio signals.
The 'log pot' is used as the volume control in audio amplifiers, where it is 
also called an "audio taper pot", because the amplituderesponse of the human 
ear is also logarithmic. It ensures that, on a volume control marked 0 to 10, 
for example, a setting of 5 sounds half as loud as a setting of 10. There is 
also an anti-log pot or reverse audio taper which is simply the reverse of a 
log pot. It is almost always used in a ganged configuration with a log pot, for 
instance, in an audio balance control.








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sound volume - sound engineering

[jim sims]

Perhaps a sound engineering or physics expert might provide me with some 
insight into my perception of how players, playing sound, work - what the 
dynamics of sound are.

When I listen to one player playing a sound at 100% and then listen to two 
players playing that same sound but having the playLoudness of both set to 70%, 
 to my untrained ears that it seems to have the same volume as the one player 
set to 100%.

IOW - it seems (to my old compromised ears), that two players playing the same 
sound/signal at 70% seem as loud as one player set to 100%.

I cannot discern any difference until I get the two players into the 50% range.

It's as if there is  some sort of threshold, where the change in volume becomes 
obvious if two players are involved. When I play one player and change the 
playLoudness I can near slighter changes in playLoudness percentage.

I'm having a difficult time explaining this... 

Is there some known effect that matches up with what I'm trying to explain?

Is there some non-linear multiplier effect? Some formula for this?

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Re: Implementing the Mac "Quick Look" type of window

[Jim Sims]

On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:51 AM, René Micout wrote:

> Thank you, but I know that in Apple documentation...
> What about "-d, -x, -s, -f, -c, -g" parameters ?



I'm not sure what you want, but if you use qlmanage -h you will get information 
on them (as shown below). I mainly used it to display images, but I was also 
able to use it to preview MS Word files and also iWorks files.


Also, I used the kill command as shown in this web page:  
http://srhaber.com/blog/2007/11/04/quick-look-from-the-command-line/

I also found this web page useful:   http://www.tuaw.com/tag/qlmanage/

------

jim-sims-Computer-2:~ sims$ qlmanage -h
Usage: qlmanage [OPTIONS] path...
-h  Display this help
-r  Force reloading Generators list
-r cacheReset thumbnail disk cache
-m [name ...]   Display statistics about quicklookd. Stats names:
* plugins   Show the generators list
* serverShow quicklookd life information
* memoryShow quicklookd memory consumption
* burst Show statistics about the last burst
* threads   Show concurrent accesses stats
* other Show other information about quicklookd
-d debugLevel   Integer between 1-4
-p  Compute previews of the documents
-t  Compute thumbnails of the documents
-x  Use quicklookd (remote computation)
-i  Compute thumbnail in icon mode
-s size Size for the thumbnail
-f factor   Scale factor for the thumbnail
-z  Display generation performance info (don't display 
thumbnails)
-o dir  Output result in dir (don't display thumbnails or 
previews)
-c contentType  Force the content type used for the documents
-g generatorForce the generator to use

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Re: Implementing the Mac "Quick Look" type of window

[Jim Sims]

On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:43 AM, René Micout wrote:

> Le 9 avr. 2010 à 19:15, Devin Asay a écrit :
> 
>> put "qlmanage -p " & theFile into tcmd -- shows it in a black window
> 
> Devin,
> When I launch the script above, I have "[DEBUG]" in the title bar.
> How can I remove it ?
> And where can I find all details about "qlmanage" fonction (even in Apple 
> documentation I don't find explanations about parameters...) ?


René - Open Terminal in OS X, then type "man qlmanage"
Also, using Google will turn up some comments on using it.

ciao,
sims




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Re: getting info from a Data Grid - which out of three methods is best?

[Jim Sims]

On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Josh Mellicker wrote:

> Imagine you have a Data Grid with data (perhaps 30 - 50 lines).
> 
> Now, you want to find all lines where 3 certain columns match given values. 
> Example: you want to find all lines where columnName "firstName" = "Trevor", 
> "food" = "salad", and "meal" = "lunch".
> 
> 
> Would you:
> 
> 1. scan the grid line by line, trying for a value match with data grid 
> commands?
> 
> 2. get the dgData and loop through the array?
> 
> 3. get the dgText and loop through the tab delimited data?



I'm assuming that I am planning on setting up code for an application with this 
question.

Number one is not something one would want to have in an app, depending upon 
the user is bad form.

I would get the dgData array and dgIndexes and then loop through the records of 
the array. 

Note that Trevor has a really great web based help system for the datagrids 
which will save countless hours when trying to understand how to use datagrids.

Regards,
sims


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Re: shell

[Jim Sims]

On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

> be aware of the U in UDP... it means unreliable.
> 
> Is there any reason for UDP and not TCP?
> 
> (PS: haven't read the previous thread, I am just saying that because last
> time I coded with UDP I ended up having some very interesting experience
> with duplicated datagrams and dropped datagrams)

Amen Brother, been there with you and done that.

sims

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Re: Bill Marriott

[Jim sims]

Very, very tragic, difficult news. I am also reminded of others who
also have enriched our lives and are now gone, like Eric.  Bill had
power and vision and we shall miss him in many ways.

Enjoy life, cherish friends, and seek balance.

sims

On 1/12/10, Richmond Mathewson  wrote:
> I met Bill at the Edinburgh conference.
>
> I am saddened at his death and can only
> hope that his family are bearing up. He
> was a fine chap who will be sorely missed.
>
> sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.
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Re: Attaching files to a document like a file system

[Jim Sims]

On Jan 5, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

exporting or viewing the document would be a multi-step process 1)  
Decrypt, uncompress, and export the file to the disk, 2) opening the  
file. This would be additional steps and would leave the unprotected  
file on the file system.


Perhaps there is a way to do this transparently directly from the  
program without saving a copy to the disk but I can't think of it.  
Opening a document that comes via email or web download appears to  
do this but in actuality they download and store a copy of the  
actual document somewhere on disk and then open it.


While this might not be a complete solution, maybe it helps: When you  
open a document open it as a temp file so at least the file is not  
easily grabbed. When your app closes, or maybe even when a viewer in  
your app closes or goes to a new item, have it also write over that  
temp file with gibberish, or simply have the temp file deleted.


I did that for an app that played videos that were compressed and  
saved as custom properties - then reopened as temp files and played.


sims
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Re: button - ID number - image object - filename - folder of pngs and jpgs

[Jim Sims]

On Dec 23, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Maybe try explicitly setting the defaultFolder yourself at start



Thanks Scott, turned out to be the right area to look.
My mind was mistakenly on an OS glitch of some kind when I should have  
been thinking defaultFolder instead.


sims
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Re: [OT] "The Perfect Time to Come Back"

[Jim Sims]

On Dec 23, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Well it made me laugh (mind you I have a feeling
that is not what I was meant to do) . . .



Didn't know I'd left.
Didn't know you left either.
Maybe we've had a memory lapse, group memory lapse?

jeez

sims


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button - ID number - image object - filename - folder of pngs and jpgs

[jim sims]

I've inherited some stacks that use the following method to display  
icon images for lots of buttons on OS X.


A separate card in the stack contains hundreds of image objects, each  
of these have a filename set to a unique image which resides in a  
folder. For example, one such filename is ./Images/PageTitles/ 
classification.png


These image objects are then referenced by lots of buttons which set  
their icons to the ID number of the image object on the above  
mentioned 'image card'.


So, the icon ID of a button is set to an image objects ID number but  
that image object gets its image from a file in a folder that sits  
next to the standalone. Phew.


As there are tons of these referenced objects using ID numbers, I am  
hesitant to change the system the person has put into place.


The above system works alright in the IDE if the folder of images is  
placed correctly.


My problem is when I make a standalone. The first time the standalone  
is run, none of the images (as explained above) appear in the buttons.


However, the second time I open the standalone it all seems to work  
fine, all images appear as desired.


If you are still reading this, I am in awe of your patience.   ;-)

What can I do to ensure that all these images work the first time the  
app is opened?


sims
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Re: Run App from DMG?

[Jim Sims]

On Dec 19, 2009, at 5:08 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:


 I
assume the DMG volume is not writable


I use dropDMG for putting together DMGs, adding background images to  
the DMG folder, EULA text, etc.


You can set the DMG as writable or non as you use dropDMG. First I put  
it togther as writable and add a bg image etc and then re-save (re- 
do?)  as non-writable for the finished DMG.  Took me a while to figure  
out the interface btw, some bits seem not very well explained but your  
mileage may vary when using it.


dropDMG is quite useful

sims


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OT OS X HD Partitioning, multiple OSs

[jim sims]

 I might be getting a 13" 160 GB  MacBook Pro

I'm thinking of using VMware Fusion to add at least one version of  
Windows or maybe more. This will hopefully be my travel machine that I  
want to use for development while away, so I'd like to get all I might  
need in it.


I usually don't have tons of music, movies, and stuff on my machine so  
I think the 160 GB should do.


What have other people done with their machines?

What OS(s) have you loaded - XP, Vista,Windows 7?

If Linux, what flavor might be the best/most common to develop for?

How did you partition it? What sizes for each?

What would you do differently if they did it over again (likely the  
most informative question/answer!)?


TIA
sims
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Re: sending hexadecimal control characters, how to?

[Jim Sims]

On Dec 3, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:


 If your software is not
approved and you sell it, then there's a fine and it might even have
jailtime.



From what I understand, everything can be legal in Brazil but  
everything is illegal in Brazil. Where the determination falls depends  
on who you pay and how much. Quite like certain Mediterranean countries.


sims
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Sarah's cal stack

[jim sims]

Can anyone give me the url to DL Sarah's calendar stack?

Seems that troz.net  is not working here.


sims
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Re: PDF version of dictionary?

[Jim Sims]

Jacque,

It really amazes me how quickly you write these things and send them  
back.


Awestruck.

Jeeez.


sims
--
On Nov 18, 2009, at 4:54 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote:
The problem is that I can put a PDF version on my Kindle DX and  
carry it anywhere at very little cost in terms of weight. This is  
not true of the hardcopy version.  I find there are times when I  
need to have a reference book open while programming because trying  
to read through online dox just doesn't do the trick.



It isn't too hard to make your own:

1. Download the MetaCard Setup stack from RevOnline. Open it in Rev.  
Make sure all the Dictionary options are checked. Run the setup.


2. In Rev, open the MC Dictionary stack you just installed. Click  
the Home button and import all the Rev dictionary entries. The "?"  
button tells you how.


3. Edit the MC Dictionary stack script and add this handler:

-- JLG: export as HTML file
on exportDict
 ask file "Name the HTML export file:"
 if it = "" then exit exportDict
 put it into tFileName
 put "" into tP
 set cursor to watch
 repeat with x = 2 to the number of cds
   put the htmltext of fld "word" of cd x & tP & tP after tData
   put the htmltext of fld "type" of cd x & tP & tP after tData
   put the htmltext of fld "summary" of cd x & tP & tP after tData
   put the htmltext of fld "main" of cd x & tP & tP after tData
   put the htmltext of fld "see also" of cd x & tP & tP after tData
   put tP & "" & tP after tData
 end repeat
 put tData into url ("file:"&tFileName)
end exportDict

4. Type "exportDict" into the message box. It only takes a second to  
create the HTML file.


5. Open the new HTML file in a browser or in Word or anywhere else  
you can display it. Print. In the OS X print dialog, choose to  
create a PDF file. On Windows, you'll need a PDF print driver to do  
that.


It isn't gorgeous but it's all there. You could edit the HTML (or  
the export script) before printing to make it prettier.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Software Assurance Explained

[Jim Sims]

Thanks for the detailed email Bill.

Maybe you'll be addressing the web site issues that others have talked  
about in another email, but I'll send this anyway.


I also found the RunRev website a bit more complicated than it might  
need to be, but I also find tying my shoes a bit complex.


There's a great book named "Don't Make me Think" in which the author  
suggests having a few people sit down and use your software or web  
site. You sit there and watch/listen as they attempt to find things.  
Quite a revealing experience. Then you streamline things a bit, fix 'em.


Clear, direct, few steps (one is ideal) routes to plunking down a  
credit card means more revenue. That is a good thing, especially for  
us who also use Rev to make a living.


Maybe you already do such testing with the web site... maybe not.

sims

On Nov 17, 2009, at 6:46 PM, William Marriott wrote:

RunRev does have a unique policy of updates and upgrades compared  
to, say, Adobe. Instead of paying on a per-version basis, one gets  
essentially annual subscriptions to new versions, after the three- 
month window you get with new purchases expires.


The reasoning behind this is to even out our revenue over the year,  
to put more of a focus on giving attention to what is truly needed  
by users (as opposed to coming out with versions "synthetically" on  
our own financial timetable), to make it easier for customers to get  
the latest versions right away (instead of having to make multiple  
purchase decisions frequently), to ensure products built with Rev  
are always of the highest available quality (so our customer's  
customers are happy), and to eliminate destructive debates over what  
should constitute a free "update" versus what warrants a for-fee  
"upgrade."


I think it's actually a pretty amazing value for the money. If you  
bought Rev 2.9 on Sept 1, 2008 and a software assurance pack on Dec  
1, 2008, you would have received Rev 3.0, 3.5, *and* 4.0 as part of  
that. Three major new versions for "a single low payment!" Sorry to  
sound like a TV pitchman, but isn't that truly remarkable?


Under traditional software upgrade models we could probably have  
charged four or five times as much for you to keep current over that  
time period. Compare us with, say, FileMaker Inc., which is earning  
a reputation for gouging customers with ho-hum upgrades priced quite  
close to the new-copy retail. Compare us with the percentage of  
retail you pay to upgrade your Adobe software.


We call it software assurance because you are assured that your  
software will always be up-to-date. That's something we think  
professional developers value. With the addition of the new  
automatic updates functionality for all editions, that is becoming  
even more of a reality.


For revEnterprise users, it also means access to pre-release builds  
and admission to our exclusive "Improve" list (a forum that perhaps  
needs to be renamed at some point, as we are now better at acting  
upon input for improvement from all corners).


[The term "software assurance" isn't as non-standard as you would  
think, by the way. Microsoft calls their similar program exactly  
that.]


Although new purchasers are entitled to three months of updates and  
upgrades free (so you can be sure you'll get bug fixes, etc.), they  
also have a full year of eligibility for the "Early" assurance pack  
price. After that, the cost for an assurance pack essentially doubles.


The exception we made for select customers with the offer below is a  
very short-term incentive to encourage people who mostly have been  
stuck in the 2.9 or even 2.6.1 era to try out the new, much-more- 
usable and much-more-capable Rev 4.0. (It's time to come back to the  
fold!)


Quite honestly, the behavior we want to encourage is for customers  
to purchase Rev, then make the annual assurance plan purchase more  
or less automatic. I suppose a downside is that there are some  
people who are always going to "kick the tires" before they spend  
any more than they have to, but having an assurance plan not only  
works out best for you in the long run, but is the best way to  
support RunRev's continuing efforts to deliver great software.


- Bill

p.s.: Think about it: $99/year and you could have gotten three  
fantastic new versions ... and support a company that's working  
really hard to not only earn a spot on your desktop, but also change  
the way the world thinks about software.




Richard Gaskin wrote:

Bill Marriott wrote:
The Order Now button directs to to the "Early" software assurance  
package page for your edition of Rev.

How many people looking for "upgrade" will think of "assurance"?
When I think of "assurance" I think of the Crimson Permanent  
Assurance Company. ;)


I had a client confused by this recently, and when I upgraded  
("assured"?) my own license a couple weeks ago I experienced the  
same uncertainty.
People are a

Re: How to rotate a graphic

[Jim Sims]

On Nov 14, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
It would be great if the RunRev team could give us any type of  
affine transformation, as is possible with Java2D graphics. They  
allow you to apply translation, rotation, stretching, skewing, etc.  
to anything you 'draw' in a Graphics2D object.
Think of what we could do with rotated fields, images and even movie  
players :-)


Quite some time ago I made a demo using Trevor's quicktime external  
that rotated movie players   ;-)


Haven't used it in a while, but it is still included on Trevor's web  
site.


sims

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Re: revTalk - iRev - revWeb - PHP - iPhone and back again

[Jim Sims]

On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Shao Sean wrote:
Not having used server-side rev yet (when will this be released for  
us to install on our own servers?) all I can tell you is that this  
is easy to do with Rev CGIs (or even a compiled Rev app running -ui)

On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

Yeah that's great except where do I learn about this in runRev?  
Examples? How to's? This is complex to me.


If making a Rev CGI thing worries you, it's not that hard really. The  
whole web mashup thing seems far more confusing to me  :-/


To make a Rev CGI follow Jacque's tutorial, it's step by step. Once  
you learn it you'll love it, enables you to do all kinds of cool things.


You do need a CGI friendly ISP however, I use http://www.jaguarpc.com/

I have a CGI up right now that sends out emails, does passwords &  
login, writes to files for archive use, etc., but most importantly  
talks to Windows or OS X standalones.


http://www.xhoutout.com

Click signup and use Malta and Gozo as username and password.

You'll see it create web pages, add new users to a list, send  
messages. Needs a little more work but you'll be able to fiddle with  
it a bit.


sims
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Re: Where to store data under Windows

[Jim Sims]

On Nov 7, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Richard Miller wrote:

I know this topic has been talked about before where to store  
Rev stacks that will be frequently (and automatically) updated when  
running under Windosw.  As a result, I've followed the general  
guidance of storing these stacks in the Documents folder. This seems  
to avoid any problems with the Windows "virtual folders" issue. I  
haven't actually tested this under Windows 7, but I assume it is  
still a valid and safe place.


However, I'm running into a new issue. My program stores video files  
in this same location, as these videos are tightly integrated into  
the program. I wouldn't mind storing the videos



In the Dictionary, searching with specialfolderpath I find the  
following:


For Windows systems, you can also specify a CSIDL number that  
identifies a special folder. Some Commonly used CSIDL values are:
0x001a: The user application data folder (e.g. "C:/Documents  
and settings/Fred/Application Data")
0x0023: The "all users" application data folder (e.g. "C:/ 
Documents and settings/all users/Application Data")

0x000d: The "My Music" folder
0x000e: The "My Videos" folder
0x0027: The "My Pictures" folder

Is there any reason why  0x000e: The "My Videos" folder  is a not  
considered? Seems like an appropriate choice.


sims

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Re: command enableScrollbarIfNeeded pFldName

[Jim Sims]

On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Thanks... I was wondering if I was missing out on some new script   
goodies there.  ;-)


Possibly one:  have you started using the new "private" keyword?


In fact, the Most Excellent & Powerful Sarah  ;-)   has written an  
article about these topics:



http://www.revjournal.com/tutorials/command-and-private.html


Bet you've heard of that web site Richard.


sims

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Re: command enableScrollbarIfNeeded pFldName

[Jim Sims]

On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:30 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


sims wrote:
In the dictionary user notes for formattedheight, the word  
"command"  is used where "function" might be used.
Can someone please explain the significance of that to me? Is it   
different from a function?


Functionally (all puns intended), "command" is synonymous with "on".

"Command" was added to distinguish between message handlers and  
commands, though that distinction is stylistic; AFAIK they can be  
usdd interchangeably.


Thanks... I was wondering if I was missing out on some new script  
goodies there.  ;-)


sims




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command enableScrollbarIfNeeded pFldName

[jim sims]

In the dictionary user notes for formattedheight, the word "command"  
is used where "function" might be used.


Can someone please explain the significance of that to me? Is it  
different from a function?


---
I use the formattedHeight property in a handy routine to turn on/off  
scrollbars as needed. Just call it every time you change the content  
of a field.



command enableScrollbarIfNeeded pFldName
   if the formattedHeight of fld pFldName > the height of fld  
pFldName then

  set the vScrollbar of fld pFldName to true
   else
  set the vScrollbar of fld pFldName to false
   end if
end enableScrollbarIfNeeded



TIA,
sims

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Re: Anyone know of a hue sort stack?

[Jim Sims]

Dr. Campbell,

As you state, the programming involved is not terribly complex.  
Perhaps I'd make use of "grab", "mousedown", checking position of  
objects. The scoring math should be easy to apply unless there is  
something not readily evident in the online example.


I'm sure I could easily produce this for you for a minimal fee.

I've worked on neurological testing applications before. I was the  
sole developer for an upper body orthopedic analysis application,  
featuring 15 video guided, standard medical tests (Apley's,  
Finkelstein's, Phalen's, etc.). The application used the results of  
the tests to assign preventative and rehabilitation exercises out of a  
set of 100 various video guided exercises.


A very short reference on my experience is at:  http://ezpzapps.com/sims/

I'm currently developing an application for a film director in the UK  
but am seeking additional work. Diverse portfolios and interests are  
good to have.


I'm interested in long term business relationships with people who  
present interesting ideas that need to be developed and price my work  
accordingly.


Please get in touch if you would like to discuss this or other projects.


Regards,

sims
---

On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:54 AM, planix wrote:



Hi,

I am looking at turning this hue sort test;

http://www.spectralcolor.com/game/huetest_kiosk

into a standalone using runrev. The concept is pretty simple, so I  
don't
think it is programmatically challenging. But, I would be interested  
in

whether anyone has a stack, or knows of a stack, that does some or all
(that'd be nice) of the types of actions demonstrated in the  
hue_test java

code.

My interest in this is it's use as a neuropsychological evaluation for
acquired achromatosis. I have a patient who reports the symptoms so  
I will
probably use the online test- since getting the Munsell hue sort is  
not
possible in the time frame that I have. But, I would also be  
interested in

using a standalone, or my own web version, to do some research.

cheers

A Campbell

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Re: Solution for opening problems on Mac with Snow Leopard

[Jim Sims]

On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:

 It's just a minor deficiency caused by a not-backward-compatible  
change Apple applied to the 'odoc' AppleEvent.



I wonder if this affects drag & drop and/or other functionality in Rev  
standalones?


Anyone have an opinion?

sims


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Re: [OT] Living in Silicon Valley

[Jim sims]

On 10/27/09, Scott Rossi  wrote:
> Even with the the ultra-high cost of living, the traffic, and the
> unemployment, sometimes living in California's Silicon Valley has a silver
> lining.
>
> http://www.thetech.org/StarTrek/

That looks suspiciously like one of your Halloween extravaganzas...
h. Plus it is close to Halloween. double hmmm.

All we have here are funky old Neolithic temples. Jeeez.

sims
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Re: Arcade / Space Invader classic game?

[Jim Sims]

On Oct 18, 2009, at 7:30 PM, David Bovill wrote:

Just checking - thinking of coding a Space Invader type game - any  
pointers

/ stacks / ideas?




Maybe this is interesting for you?

http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg20508.html


sims

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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

[Jim Sims]

On Oct 16, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:

As far as I know, the only difference between UK, USA, MB and MBP  
keyboards

are some graphics and their .keylayout files.


The Return key on my UK keyboard uses up the far right space of two  
rows, it is sort of like an upsidedown L shape. That means that the |  
and \ keys are moved down one row lower than on the the USA keyboard  
to make room for the top half of the UK Return key.


The UK return key is also narrower on the bottom row it occupies than  
all other keys but on the top it is the same width as most other keys.


On my USA keyboard both Shift keys are the same size, unlike the UK  
which has a much smaller key on the left.


I place my 17" Mac up off my desk for better ergonomics (not beding my  
back over) and use a wireless keyboard when at home. When out with the  
Mac I go back to the USA built-in keys. I've adapted.


I rescued that UK keyboard from a cruel beating and excessive verbal  
abuse as my partner Cloe, a touch typist, could not adapt to what she  
considered 'wrong behavior' in a keyboard.   ;-)



sims

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Re: [ANN] tRev Feature Friday Video is up!

[Jim Sims]

On Oct 15, 2009, at 12:22 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Life is a box of chocolate or so I've heard somewhere...


LIFE is GOOD. Andre, you forget already?

sims

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Re: Newbie question - Using multi-line message box

[Jim Sims]

On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:

For what it's worth, the MacBook Pro I have has an Enter key to the
right of the right-side command key, and that works as an Enter key
should. I see that MacBooks have a second Option key there instead.
As do the newest MacBook Pros. :-( Have to use the function  
modifier  key now for Enter key.



There has been a difference in UK and USA keyboards for years.

My UK keyboard has an alt/option key to the right of the command key
 SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ALT/OPTION KEY

My USA keyboard has:
 SPACE BAR  - CMD KEY  -  ENTER KEY

There are a few other differences that make me like the US keyboard  
more but that's another story.


Are you saying that now both UK and USA keyboards lack an Enter key?

sims





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Re: Perl and Revolution at OSDC.fr 2009

[Jim Sims]

On Oct 9, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Thierry wrote:



Le 9 oct. 09 à 02:06, capellan a écrit :


Congratulations for this great achievement!


YIKES.

I better sit down and read this a few times.

Thierry, sounds very cool.

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Re: OT: Rio 2016

[Jim Sims]

On Oct 2, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

Yay! I should open a hostel, we will have the Soccer World Cup here  
in 2014

and the Olympic Games on 2016, good time to invest in something


Yes! Creative Brasilan Thinking!
Maybe put that TV/Film school learning to us, start a new TV channel.
Andre's Olympic Village
Olympic Cooking with Andre
Andre's Olympic Roundup Sports Channel

The opportunities are endless.

You have a camera I bet.

sims

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Re: stack cannot be loaded into standalone edition! WTF???

[Jim Sims]

On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote:

And of course I can open these stacks in the IDE, nothing special  
with these stacks!


Any hints?


Rosebud.   U... no I mean Vista?


Continuing on with Rosebud, Snow?

Snow Leopard?


sims


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Re: stack cannot be loaded into standalone edition! WTF???

[Jim Sims]

On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote:


Hi all,

maybe someone can shed some light on this puzzle?

I created a standalone with Rev Enterprise which loads/plays/shows
stacks that are created with Rev Studio, not by me.

But when I try to open one of these stacks, nothing happens and after
checking in the standalone "the result" after "go stack XYZ"=

stack cannot be loaded into standalone edition

WTF???

All filepaths are correct = the stacks ARE found and present!
And of course I can open these stacks in the IDE, nothing special  
with these stacks!


Any hints?


Rosebud.   U... no I mean Vista?

sims

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test

[jim sims]

test

sims


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Re: closefield/exitfield

[Jim Sims]

On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Klaus Major wrote:

Should a "closefield/exitfield" handler of a field be executed if  
one clicks a button that
has its "traversalon" property set to TRUE (on the same card of  
course)?




closeField message is generally not sent when another control (such as  
a button) is clicked. This is because clicked buttons do not receive  
the focus on Mac OS systems, and therefore the selection remains active.


That help you?

sims
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Re: Quicktime and the Snow Leopard

[Jim Sims]

On Sep 8, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Klaus Major wrote:


for your interest: Trevors wonderful Enhanced QuickTime external
works fine on OS X 10.6, so does my freeware "The Exporter", which
was made with Rev 3.5 and this external :-)


When you upgraded to 10.6 did you have to elect to re-install QT 7? If  
so, was it obvious where or how to do so?


Did you need to re-register QT 7 to make it QT Pro (assuming you had  
QT Pro)?


sims
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XP, Vista, Choosing where to save rev files

[jim sims]

If I let a Windows user choose via dialog where my app creates and  
saves a rev file, will any folders that can be chosen by the user be  
accessible to the rev app when it goes to open that file again?


I'm a bit worried about users choosing to save the file into a folder  
that Vista will then not allow the rev app to open that file.


Maybe I'm being overly paranoid  ;-)   But Vista seems a bit cranky.


sims

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Re: DataGrid - drag & Drop rearranging order

[Jim Sims]

On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


Are you watching the conference today? I just might be posting an  
updated data grid with built in support for this and showing how  
to do it :-)



Ask and with Trevor you shall receive!

Such productivity!  Thank you for your generous contributions, Trevor.
Big thanks.

sims


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Re: DataGrid - drag & Drop rearranging order

[Jim Sims]

On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:43 PM, jim sims wrote:

Can anyone tell me if one can drag & drop to rearrange the order of  
items in a datagrid field?


Has anyone used it and are there any issues with it?


Are you watching the conference today? I just might be posting an  
updated data grid with built in support for this and showing how to  
do it :-)


Unfortunately I will not be watching it.

How soon will that feature become available? I need to have rows with  
a few words and one image that can be rearranged in order - that would  
be extremely helpful for a project I'm working on.


sims





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DataGrid - drag & Drop rearranging order

[jim sims]

Can anyone tell me if one can drag & drop to rearrange the order of  
items in a datagrid field?


Has anyone used it and are there any issues with it?


sims
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Windows monitor resolution

[jim sims]

I usually us a Mac, but I have a crappy XP machine with a CRT that I  
do testing with. I use this machine as a low range, base sort of test  
vehicle. The best it can do is 1280x1024 resolution.



What resolution are most of your Windows apps planned for?

What is the most common resolution that your users use?


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Re: Rev conferences - images of the past and the future...

[Jim Sims]

On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Ian Wood wrote:


Looking back to Malta, with sadness at Eric's passing:
http://www.landmarksofbritain.co.uk/eurorevcon_2006

And a sneak peek of the venue for next week, photographed a few  
years ago on commission:

http://beta.ianjameswood.co.uk/keywords/our-dynamic-earth

Ian



Thanks for bringing up those memories Ian.

Finally meeting so many people I knew only from emails was a real  
blast. Cloe was a bit skeptical about how she'd be able to relate to a  
bunch of "programmer types" but after meeting all of you she said  
"they are such great people, so easy to talk to, so unassuming"

(don't destroy her delusions   ;-)

We are both thrilled we were able to throw together those two little  
parties.


Best of luck to Kevin and RunRev for all future RevCons.

Long Live RevCons!


sims & Cloe




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[OT] iPhone development

[jim sims]

I'm curious, has anyone on the list actually made an iPhone app?

Also curious, is there anyone here who could make an iPhone app?

Reason for the questions: I'm discussing a few things with a potential/ 
possible client and want to be ready for all circumstances they might  
throw at me. I'm suspecting an iPhone app might be one of several  
things they want.



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