Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons

[Daniel Ascher]

Ludovic these are all good suggestions. Changing the cross icon to rotate
an object is good idea.

And the idea of indicating which tool is selected makes sense if it's not
too much work to implement. Making the background of the selected tool
darker or lighter would work well.

Thanks.

Dan

Thanks! Dan

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 2:13 PM, Ludovic MESSINGER  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you very much for the work you make on OM.
> I like very much the toolbar without the lines and with more space ;-)
>
> Here are a few suggestion:
>
> Is it possible to set a lineal font by default for the text (like arial,
> verdana...)?
>
> In the new system with icons gathered in groups, I would display the
> current icon tool also in the group with a point to mark it as active or
> with a different background. As at the begining I haven't understood that
> there were two text tools. (I have attached an image as an example).
>
> The contrast between selected icon and others is not enough in my opinion,
> we could put it darker as the blue is already light.
>
> The cross icon when rotating an object could be a double arrow curved. (I
> have attached an image as an example).
>
> Is it possible to capture keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Z to cancel an action?
>
> I know that all these suggestions can be an lot of work, so I hope it is
> not discouraging since it is not the goal.
>
> Best regards,
> Ludovic
>
>
>
> Le 14/08/2018 à 13:26, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit :
>
>> I have updated demo-next with new version:
>>
>> Changes:
>> 1) Flexible text can be resized more easily
>> 2) you can apply styles while editing (with some limitations)
>>
>> Would appreciate to get some feedback on this
>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:18 PM Maxim Solodovnik 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Ed,
>>>
>>> changing icons via admin is hardly possible (and IMO doesn't worth
>>> developer time)
>>> All you need is to replace image files :)))
>>>
>>> I'll try to add cam/mic to gear, I like the idea (I'm also not designer
>>> :(( )
>>>
>>> What would be the conclusion? Shall we switch to new icon set or not?
>>> During JIRA discussion Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo wrote "in
>>> anything else that can help, I'll do it with pleasure."
>>> So we can ask him to perform necessary changes .
>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:39 AM BBS Technik  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 the new suggested icon set let om  look young and fresh.  I would like
 to see it in a new release. But perhaps it is possible to have the old and
 the new icon set and can choose it in the admin settings.

 When the icons get a redesign, i would suggest to add a cam and mic to
 the gear icon on the left upper corner  and nearby the users. The only
 fuction of this gear is to configure audio and video.
 The gear in the toolbox has an other function.
 See attached a sketch. I'm realy not a designer ...   ;-)

 Best regards

 Ed



 Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. August 2018 um 13:22 Uhr
 Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" 
 An: "Openmeetings user-list" 
 Cc: greenes 
 Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons
 Thanks a lot for your thoughts and mockups :)))
 Some of your ideas were implemented

 I would appreciate if you can check our demo-next server:
 https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
 And tell me what else can be done
 On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:49 AM Ludovic MESSINGER 
 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Removing the line is a good idea. We could let lines to separate
> "theme".
> To have a better look, I would give the icons the same size and add a
> little more space arround the icons (to le them "breathe")
>
> I like the icons with the flat style, even if they have the same color,
> it is something we can see in a lot of GUI nowadays.
>
> The highlighter icon made by Jorge Alberto is more representative.
>
> I have linked a picture to illustrate this.
>
> Regards,
> Ludovic
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 11/08/2018 à 11:16, Alvaro a écrit :
>
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> The new icons are nices, but it are
>> now in OM whiteboard toolbar are more appropiate,
>> because:
>>
>> 1)
>> They are of differents colors between them,
>> and that is good, because if you are reading-looking
>> a document in the white board and look to the
>> toolbar and see all the icons of the same clear
>> color, someone can feel sick looking for he/she need,
>> and no all the new icons are clear his use.
>>
>> 2)
>> The best, for my understending, is to continue using
>> that are now but deleting the lines separation between
>> each icon.
>> Please, take a look the attached picture.
>>
>> 3)
>> The ease of use must be first, and secondly the design.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Alvaro
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> El sáb, 11-08-2018 

Re: Ideas

[Daniel Ascher]

I have provided modified translations in English, which can be accessed in
the following google spreadsheet:

https://goo.gl/L5tcEZ

Let me know if you notice any problems or errors with this.

Thanks! Dan

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 7:30 AM, Peter Dähn  wrote:

> Hi Maxim,
>
> maybe I have time in the evening, otherwise tomorrow...
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 15.08.2018 um 12:44 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> please provide new translation, I believe you don't need to wait for new
> English strings for this :)
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:10 PM Peter Dähn  wrote:
>
>> I could provide the German translation. Shall I wait till it is included
>> and just provide just the changed xml?
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>> Am 15.08.2018 um 09:24 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1921
>>
>> Here is the list of current labels:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 8:25 PM Daniel Ascher <
>> aplusad...@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Will do. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Maxim Solodovnik 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Text will be enough :)

 On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:32 AM Daniel Ascher <
 aplusad...@aplustutoring.com> wrote:

> Maxim, I will try to create a complete list of labels for all of
> these. Do you need me to include the icon for each one in the list that I
> create? Or can I just list the labels without icons?
>
> Thanks! Dan
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>> as you might notice there are 2 sets of icons in user list
>> 1) own icons (always visible and BIG)
>> 2) icons of other people (visible to moderators only)
>>
>> Additionally there are icons for right/permission and for action
>> Rights/permissions can be:
>> , moderator
>> , presenter
>> , whiteBoard
>> , share
>> , remoteControl
>> , audio
>> , video
>> , exclusive
>> User can send request for each permission (if "user questions are
>> allowed")
>> Moderator can grant/revoke each permission
>>
>> Actions can be:
>>camera
>>microphone
>>kick
>> first 2 can be started/stopped
>>
>> These actions require labels
>>
>> According to "gear" icon, I believe there is no need to disable it,
>> user can set up devices (get prepared for the conference any time with 
>> any
>> level of permissions )
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:07 AM Daniel Ascher <
>> aplusad...@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maxim. Are these just for the webcam and mic, or are there other
>>> icons that need labels as well? I can provide the language for the
>>> different icons if I know which ones you need changes to.
>>>
>>> For the webcam and mic icons:
>>>
>>>  Turn on camera
>>>
>>>  Turn off camera
>>>
>>>  Turn on mic
>>>
>>>  Turn off mic
>>>
>>> I have one other suggestion for camera and mic:
>>>
>>>  If a user DOES NOT have permission to share webcam or audio can
>>> this icon be grayed out? Or can different hover text be shown in that
>>> situation (see below) such as "Webcam and mic settings not available
>>> without permission," or "You must request webcam or mic permission"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Permissions:
>>>
>>> In general I think most of the permission messages are already good.
>>> For permission requests I would slightly adjust the language in the 
>>> English
>>> version to be:
>>>
>>> 1) Ask for permission for  -- Change to "Request permission
>>> to."
>>> 2) Give permission for -- Change to "Accept request to."
>>> 3) Remove permission for -- Change to "Remove permission to"
>>>
>>> Examples:
>>>
>>>  1. Request permission to be presenter
>>>2. Accept request to present
>>>3. Remove permission to present
>>>
>>>  Request permission to share my webcam
>>>
>>> When the moderator allows a participant to have permission (without
>>> a request from the user), I would use the "Allow" language. So
>>>
>>> 1. Allow this user to publish their audio/video -- Change to "Allow
>>> user to share webcam"
>>> 2. Allow this user to publish their audio -- Change to "Allow user
>>> to use mic"
>>> 3. Would like to have right to be presenter in the room -- Change to
>>> "Allow user to be presenter"
>>> 4. Would like to draw on whiteboard -- Change to "Allow user to draw"
>>> 5. Allow user to share screen/record -- No change
>>> 6. Allow remote control (during screen 

Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons

[Ludovic MESSINGER]

Hi,

Thank you very much for the work you make on OM.
I like very much the toolbar without the lines and with more space ;-)

Here are a few suggestion:

Is it possible to set a lineal font by default for the text (like arial, 
verdana...)?


In the new system with icons gathered in groups, I would display the 
current icon tool also in the group with a point to mark it as active or 
with a different background. As at the begining I haven't understood 
that there were two text tools. (I have attached an image as an example).


The contrast between selected icon and others is not enough in my 
opinion, we could put it darker as the blue is already light.


The cross icon when rotating an object could be a double arrow curved. 
(I have attached an image as an example).


Is it possible to capture keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Z to cancel an action?

I know that all these suggestions can be an lot of work, so I hope it is 
not discouraging since it is not the goal.


Best regards,
Ludovic


Le 14/08/2018 à 13:26, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit :

I have updated demo-next with new version:

Changes:
1) Flexible text can be resized more easily
2) you can apply styles while editing (with some limitations)

Would appreciate to get some feedback on this
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:18 PM Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

Hello Ed,

changing icons via admin is hardly possible (and IMO doesn't worth
developer time)
All you need is to replace image files :)))

I'll try to add cam/mic to gear, I like the idea (I'm also not designer :(( )

What would be the conclusion? Shall we switch to new icon set or not?
During JIRA discussion Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo wrote "in
anything else that can help, I'll do it with pleasure."
So we can ask him to perform necessary changes .
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:39 AM BBS Technik  wrote:

Hi all,

the new suggested icon set let om  look young and fresh.  I would like to see 
it in a new release. But perhaps it is possible to have the old and the new 
icon set and can choose it in the admin settings.

When the icons get a redesign, i would suggest to add a cam and mic to the gear 
icon on the left upper corner  and nearby the users. The only fuction of this 
gear is to configure audio and video.
The gear in the toolbox has an other function.
See attached a sketch. I'm realy not a designer ...   ;-)

Best regards

Ed



Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. August 2018 um 13:22 Uhr
Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" 
An: "Openmeetings user-list" 
Cc: greenes 
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons
Thanks a lot for your thoughts and mockups :)))
Some of your ideas were implemented

I would appreciate if you can check our demo-next server:
https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
And tell me what else can be done
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:49 AM Ludovic MESSINGER  wrote:

Hi all,

Removing the line is a good idea. We could let lines to separate "theme".
To have a better look, I would give the icons the same size and add a
little more space arround the icons (to le them "breathe")

I like the icons with the flat style, even if they have the same color,
it is something we can see in a lot of GUI nowadays.

The highlighter icon made by Jorge Alberto is more representative.

I have linked a picture to illustrate this.

Regards,
Ludovic





Le 11/08/2018 à 11:16, Alvaro a écrit :

Hello Maxim,

The new icons are nices, but it are
now in OM whiteboard toolbar are more appropiate,
because:

1)
They are of differents colors between them,
and that is good, because if you are reading-looking
a document in the white board and look to the
toolbar and see all the icons of the same clear
color, someone can feel sick looking for he/she need,
and no all the new icons are clear his use.

2)
The best, for my understending, is to continue using
that are now but deleting the lines separation between
each icon.
Please, take a look the attached picture.

3)
The ease of use must be first, and secondly the design.

Regards

Alvaro


-


El sáb, 11-08-2018 a las 11:37 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:

Hello All,

There is one more JIRA I would like to implement before 4.0.5
release:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1884

Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo propose new tool and have created new
WB icons
Do you like the idea?
Should we switch to new icons?




--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax



--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

WB user switching

[aaron.hepp]

Not sure if it is possible but is there a way to allow users to switch WBs
themselves without giving them permission to change the WB.  With multiple
WBs open in a room, the users are only allowed to view the WB being
manipulated by the person in control.  Was wondering if there was a way to
give the ability of users to move their view to a different WB if they need
to review something that was upload to another WB.

Re: Ideas

[Peter Dähn]

Hi Maxim,

maybe I have time in the evening, otherwise tomorrow...

Greetings Peter

Am 15.08.2018 um 12:44 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello Peter,

please provide new translation, I believe you don't need to wait for 
new English strings for this :)


On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:10 PM Peter Dähn > wrote:


I could provide the German translation. Shall I wait till it is
included and just provide just the changed xml?

Greetings Peter

Am 15.08.2018 um 09:24 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1921

Here is the list of current labels:








































On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 8:25 PM Daniel Ascher
mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:

Will do. Thanks!

Dan

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Text will be enough :)

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:32 AM Daniel Ascher
mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:

Maxim, I will try to create a complete list of labels
for all of these. Do you need me to include the icon
for each one in the list that I create? Or can I just
list the labels without icons?

Thanks! Dan



On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hello Daniel,

as you might notice there are 2 sets of icons in
user list
1) own icons (always visible and BIG)
2) icons of other people (visible to moderators only)

Additionally there are icons for right/permission
and for action
Rights/permissions can be:
, moderator
, presenter
, whiteBoard
, share
, remoteControl
, audio
, video
, exclusive
User can send request for each permission (if
"user questions are allowed")
Moderator can grant/revoke each permission

Actions can be:
   camera
   microphone
   kick
first 2 can be started/stopped

These actions require labels

According to "gear" icon, I believe there is no
need to disable it, user can set up devices (get
prepared for the conference any time with any
level of permissions )



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:07 AM Daniel Ascher
mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:

Maxim. Are these just for the webcam and mic,
or are there other icons that need labels as
well? I can provide the language for the
different icons if I know which ones you need
changes to.

For the webcam and mic icons:

 Turn on camera

 Turn off camera

 Turn on mic

 Turn off mic

I have one other suggestion for camera and mic:

 If a user DOES NOT have permission to share
webcam or audio can this icon be grayed out?
Or can different hover text be shown in that
situation (see below) such as "Webcam and mic
settings not available without permission,"
or "You must request webcam or mic permission"





Permissions:

In general I think most of the permission
messages are already good. For permission
requests I would slightly adjust the language
in the English version to be:

1) Ask for permission for  -- Change to
"Request permission to."
2) Give permission for -- Change to "Accept
request to."
3) Remove permission for -- Change to "Remove
permission to"

Examples:

 1. Request permission to be presenter
 2. Accept request to present
 3. Remove permission to present

   

Aw: Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons

[BBS Technik]

Hi,

I agree with Peter and would like to see the modern iconset for the room.

The new iconset is monochrome, but with realy good styled shapes.


I also asked some of my users and most of them told me, om is ok but  looks oldschool and should be refreshed.

 

Best regards

Ed


Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. August 2018 um 12:42 Uhr
Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" 
An: "Openmeetings user-list" 
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons

Before I can ask Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo to create new icons I
need ACK from community for this ...

Initial feedback was: please do not create new icons

I'd love to update all icons, but I believe new icon set should be
supported by community :)
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:00 PM Peter Dähn  wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I meant, if you are going to change the style of the wb-icons, it would
> be good to change all other icons in the room, to have the same style
> for all. Just to have one "style" in the room...
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 15.08.2018 um 11:12 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > Hello Peter,
> >
> > I'm not sure what is wrong with suggested subset :(
> > So I have no idea how to request for more icons 
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:49 PM Peter Dähn  wrote:
> >> Sorry for the late response, I had a few days off...
> >>
> >> What about redesingn all icons? I think this would look much better than
> >> just to change a subset of them. Probably the designer could also disign
> >> a few more?
> >>
> >> Greetings Peter
> >>
> >> Am 14.08.2018 um 13:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> >>> I have updated demo-next with new version:
> >>>
> >>> Changes:
> >>> 1) Flexible text can be resized more easily
> >>> 2) you can apply styles while editing (with some limitations)
> >>>
> >>> Would appreciate to get some feedback on this
> >>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:18 PM Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
>  Hello Ed,
> 
>  changing icons via admin is hardly possible (and IMO doesn't worth
>  developer time)
>  All you need is to replace image files :)))
> 
>  I'll try to add cam/mic to gear, I like the idea (I'm also not designer :(( )
> 
>  What would be the conclusion? Shall we switch to new icon set or not?
>  During JIRA discussion Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo wrote "in
>  anything else that can help, I'll do it with pleasure."
>  So we can ask him to perform necessary changes .
>  On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:39 AM BBS Technik  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the new suggested icon set let om look young and fresh. I would like to see it in a new release. But perhaps it is possible to have the old and the new icon set and can choose it in the admin settings.
> >
> > When the icons get a redesign, i would suggest to add a cam and mic to the gear icon on the left upper corner and nearby the users. The only fuction of this gear is to configure audio and video.
> > The gear in the toolbox has an other function.
> > See attached a sketch. I'm realy not a designer ... ;-)
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. August 2018 um 13:22 Uhr
> > Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" 
> > An: "Openmeetings user-list" 
> > Cc: greenes 
> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons
> > Thanks a lot for your thoughts and mockups :)))
> > Some of your ideas were implemented
> >
> > I would appreciate if you can check our demo-next server:
> > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
> > And tell me what else can be done
> > On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:49 AM Ludovic MESSINGER  wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Removing the line is a good idea. We could let lines to separate "theme".
> >> To have a better look, I would give the icons the same size and add a
> >> little more space arround the icons (to le them "breathe")
> >>
> >> I like the icons with the flat style, even if they have the same color,
> >> it is something we can see in a lot of GUI nowadays.
> >>
> >> The highlighter icon made by Jorge Alberto is more representative.
> >>
> >> I have linked a picture to illustrate this.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ludovic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 11/08/2018 à 11:16, Alvaro a écrit :
> >>> Hello Maxim,
> >>>
> >>> The new icons are nices, but it are
> >>> now in OM whiteboard toolbar are more appropiate,
> >>> because:
> >>>
> >>> 1)
> >>> They are of differents colors between them,
> >>> and that is good, because if you are reading-looking
> >>> a document in the white board and look to the
> >>> toolbar and see all the icons of the same clear
> >>> color, someone can feel sick looking for he/she need,
> >>> and no all the new icons are clear his use.
> >>>
> >>> 2)
> >>> The best, for my understending, is to continue using
> >>> that are now but deleting the lines separation between
> >>> 

Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Before I can ask Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo to create new icons I
need ACK from community for this ...

Initial feedback was: please do not create new icons

I'd love to update all icons, but I believe new icon set should be
supported by community :)
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:00 PM Peter Dähn  wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I meant, if you are going to change the style of the wb-icons, it would
> be good to change all other icons in the room, to have the same style
> for all. Just to have one "style" in the room...
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 15.08.2018 um 11:12 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > Hello Peter,
> >
> > I'm not sure what is wrong with suggested subset :(
> > So I have no idea how to request for more icons 
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:49 PM Peter Dähn  wrote:
> >> Sorry for the late response, I had a few days off...
> >>
> >> What about redesingn all icons? I think this would look much better than
> >> just to change a subset of them. Probably the designer could also disign
> >> a few more?
> >>
> >> Greetings Peter
> >>
> >> Am 14.08.2018 um 13:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> >>> I have updated demo-next with new version:
> >>>
> >>> Changes:
> >>> 1) Flexible text can be resized more easily
> >>> 2) you can apply styles while editing (with some limitations)
> >>>
> >>> Would appreciate to get some feedback on this
> >>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:18 PM Maxim Solodovnik  
> >>> wrote:
>  Hello Ed,
> 
>  changing icons via admin is hardly possible (and IMO doesn't worth
>  developer time)
>  All you need is to replace image files :)))
> 
>  I'll try to add cam/mic to gear, I like the idea (I'm also not designer 
>  :(( )
> 
>  What would be the conclusion? Shall we switch to new icon set or not?
>  During JIRA discussion Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo wrote "in
>  anything else that can help, I'll do it with pleasure."
>  So we can ask him to perform necessary changes .
>  On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:39 AM BBS Technik  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the new suggested icon set let om  look young and fresh.  I would like 
> > to see it in a new release. But perhaps it is possible to have the old 
> > and the new icon set and can choose it in the admin settings.
> >
> > When the icons get a redesign, i would suggest to add a cam and mic to 
> > the gear icon on the left upper corner  and nearby the users. The only 
> > fuction of this gear is to configure audio and video.
> > The gear in the toolbox has an other function.
> > See attached a sketch. I'm realy not a designer ...   ;-)
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. August 2018 um 13:22 Uhr
> > Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" 
> > An: "Openmeetings user-list" 
> > Cc: greenes 
> > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons
> > Thanks a lot for your thoughts and mockups :)))
> > Some of your ideas were implemented
> >
> > I would appreciate if you can check our demo-next server:
> > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
> > And tell me what else can be done
> > On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:49 AM Ludovic MESSINGER  
> > wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Removing the line is a good idea. We could let lines to separate 
> >> "theme".
> >> To have a better look, I would give the icons the same size and add a
> >> little more space arround the icons (to le them "breathe")
> >>
> >> I like the icons with the flat style, even if they have the same color,
> >> it is something we can see in a lot of GUI nowadays.
> >>
> >> The highlighter icon made by Jorge Alberto is more representative.
> >>
> >> I have linked a picture to illustrate this.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ludovic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 11/08/2018 à 11:16, Alvaro a écrit :
> >>> Hello Maxim,
> >>>
> >>> The new icons are nices, but it are
> >>> now in OM whiteboard toolbar are more appropiate,
> >>> because:
> >>>
> >>> 1)
> >>> They are of differents colors between them,
> >>> and that is good, because if you are reading-looking
> >>> a document in the white board and look to the
> >>> toolbar and see all the icons of the same clear
> >>> color, someone can feel sick looking for he/she need,
> >>> and no all the new icons are clear his use.
> >>>
> >>> 2)
> >>> The best, for my understending, is to continue using
> >>> that are now but deleting the lines separation between
> >>> each icon.
> >>> Please, take a look the attached picture.
> >>>
> >>> 3)
> >>> The ease of use must be first, and secondly the design.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Alvaro
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> El sáb, 11-08-2018 a las 11:37 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik 

Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons

[Peter Dähn]

Hi Maxim,

I meant, if you are going to change the style of the wb-icons, it would 
be good to change all other icons in the room, to have the same style 
for all. Just to have one "style" in the room...


Greetings Peter

Am 15.08.2018 um 11:12 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello Peter,

I'm not sure what is wrong with suggested subset :(
So I have no idea how to request for more icons 
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:49 PM Peter Dähn  wrote:

Sorry for the late response, I had a few days off...

What about redesingn all icons? I think this would look much better than
just to change a subset of them. Probably the designer could also disign
a few more?

Greetings Peter

Am 14.08.2018 um 13:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

I have updated demo-next with new version:

Changes:
1) Flexible text can be resized more easily
2) you can apply styles while editing (with some limitations)

Would appreciate to get some feedback on this
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:18 PM Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

Hello Ed,

changing icons via admin is hardly possible (and IMO doesn't worth
developer time)
All you need is to replace image files :)))

I'll try to add cam/mic to gear, I like the idea (I'm also not designer :(( )

What would be the conclusion? Shall we switch to new icon set or not?
During JIRA discussion Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo wrote "in
anything else that can help, I'll do it with pleasure."
So we can ask him to perform necessary changes .
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:39 AM BBS Technik  wrote:

Hi all,

the new suggested icon set let om  look young and fresh.  I would like to see 
it in a new release. But perhaps it is possible to have the old and the new 
icon set and can choose it in the admin settings.

When the icons get a redesign, i would suggest to add a cam and mic to the gear 
icon on the left upper corner  and nearby the users. The only fuction of this 
gear is to configure audio and video.
The gear in the toolbox has an other function.
See attached a sketch. I'm realy not a designer ...   ;-)

Best regards

Ed



Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. August 2018 um 13:22 Uhr
Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" 
An: "Openmeetings user-list" 
Cc: greenes 
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons
Thanks a lot for your thoughts and mockups :)))
Some of your ideas were implemented

I would appreciate if you can check our demo-next server:
https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
And tell me what else can be done
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:49 AM Ludovic MESSINGER  wrote:

Hi all,

Removing the line is a good idea. We could let lines to separate "theme".
To have a better look, I would give the icons the same size and add a
little more space arround the icons (to le them "breathe")

I like the icons with the flat style, even if they have the same color,
it is something we can see in a lot of GUI nowadays.

The highlighter icon made by Jorge Alberto is more representative.

I have linked a picture to illustrate this.

Regards,
Ludovic





Le 11/08/2018 à 11:16, Alvaro a écrit :

Hello Maxim,

The new icons are nices, but it are
now in OM whiteboard toolbar are more appropiate,
because:

1)
They are of differents colors between them,
and that is good, because if you are reading-looking
a document in the white board and look to the
toolbar and see all the icons of the same clear
color, someone can feel sick looking for he/she need,
and no all the new icons are clear his use.

2)
The best, for my understending, is to continue using
that are now but deleting the lines separation between
each icon.
Please, take a look the attached picture.

3)
The ease of use must be first, and secondly the design.

Regards

Alvaro


-


El sáb, 11-08-2018 a las 11:37 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:

Hello All,

There is one more JIRA I would like to implement before 4.0.5
release:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1884

Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo propose new tool and have created new
WB icons
Do you like the idea?
Should we switch to new icons?

--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax


--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello Peter,

I'm not sure what is wrong with suggested subset :(
So I have no idea how to request for more icons 
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 1:49 PM Peter Dähn  wrote:
>
> Sorry for the late response, I had a few days off...
>
> What about redesingn all icons? I think this would look much better than
> just to change a subset of them. Probably the designer could also disign
> a few more?
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 14.08.2018 um 13:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > I have updated demo-next with new version:
> >
> > Changes:
> > 1) Flexible text can be resized more easily
> > 2) you can apply styles while editing (with some limitations)
> >
> > Would appreciate to get some feedback on this
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:18 PM Maxim Solodovnik  
> > wrote:
> >> Hello Ed,
> >>
> >> changing icons via admin is hardly possible (and IMO doesn't worth
> >> developer time)
> >> All you need is to replace image files :)))
> >>
> >> I'll try to add cam/mic to gear, I like the idea (I'm also not designer 
> >> :(( )
> >>
> >> What would be the conclusion? Shall we switch to new icon set or not?
> >> During JIRA discussion Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo wrote "in
> >> anything else that can help, I'll do it with pleasure."
> >> So we can ask him to perform necessary changes .
> >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:39 AM BBS Technik  wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> the new suggested icon set let om  look young and fresh.  I would like to 
> >>> see it in a new release. But perhaps it is possible to have the old and 
> >>> the new icon set and can choose it in the admin settings.
> >>>
> >>> When the icons get a redesign, i would suggest to add a cam and mic to 
> >>> the gear icon on the left upper corner  and nearby the users. The only 
> >>> fuction of this gear is to configure audio and video.
> >>> The gear in the toolbox has an other function.
> >>> See attached a sketch. I'm realy not a designer ...   ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. August 2018 um 13:22 Uhr
> >>> Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" 
> >>> An: "Openmeetings user-list" 
> >>> Cc: greenes 
> >>> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons
> >>> Thanks a lot for your thoughts and mockups :)))
> >>> Some of your ideas were implemented
> >>>
> >>> I would appreciate if you can check our demo-next server:
> >>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
> >>> And tell me what else can be done
> >>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:49 AM Ludovic MESSINGER  
> >>> wrote:
>  Hi all,
> 
>  Removing the line is a good idea. We could let lines to separate "theme".
>  To have a better look, I would give the icons the same size and add a
>  little more space arround the icons (to le them "breathe")
> 
>  I like the icons with the flat style, even if they have the same color,
>  it is something we can see in a lot of GUI nowadays.
> 
>  The highlighter icon made by Jorge Alberto is more representative.
> 
>  I have linked a picture to illustrate this.
> 
>  Regards,
>  Ludovic
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Le 11/08/2018 à 11:16, Alvaro a écrit :
> > Hello Maxim,
> >
> > The new icons are nices, but it are
> > now in OM whiteboard toolbar are more appropiate,
> > because:
> >
> > 1)
> > They are of differents colors between them,
> > and that is good, because if you are reading-looking
> > a document in the white board and look to the
> > toolbar and see all the icons of the same clear
> > color, someone can feel sick looking for he/she need,
> > and no all the new icons are clear his use.
> >
> > 2)
> > The best, for my understending, is to continue using
> > that are now but deleting the lines separation between
> > each icon.
> > Please, take a look the attached picture.
> >
> > 3)
> > The ease of use must be first, and secondly the design.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Alvaro
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> >
> > El sáb, 11-08-2018 a las 11:37 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> There is one more JIRA I would like to implement before 4.0.5
> >> release:
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1884
> >>
> >> Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo propose new tool and have created new
> >> WB icons
> >> Do you like the idea?
> >> Should we switch to new icons?
> 
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> WBR
> >>> Maxim aka solomax
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> WBR
> >> Maxim aka solomax
> >
> >
>


-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons

[Peter Dähn]

Sorry for the late response, I had a few days off...

What about redesingn all icons? I think this would look much better than 
just to change a subset of them. Probably the designer could also disign 
a few more?


Greetings Peter

Am 14.08.2018 um 13:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

I have updated demo-next with new version:

Changes:
1) Flexible text can be resized more easily
2) you can apply styles while editing (with some limitations)

Would appreciate to get some feedback on this
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:18 PM Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

Hello Ed,

changing icons via admin is hardly possible (and IMO doesn't worth
developer time)
All you need is to replace image files :)))

I'll try to add cam/mic to gear, I like the idea (I'm also not designer :(( )

What would be the conclusion? Shall we switch to new icon set or not?
During JIRA discussion Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo wrote "in
anything else that can help, I'll do it with pleasure."
So we can ask him to perform necessary changes .
On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:39 AM BBS Technik  wrote:

Hi all,

the new suggested icon set let om  look young and fresh.  I would like to see 
it in a new release. But perhaps it is possible to have the old and the new 
icon set and can choose it in the admin settings.

When the icons get a redesign, i would suggest to add a cam and mic to the gear 
icon on the left upper corner  and nearby the users. The only fuction of this 
gear is to configure audio and video.
The gear in the toolbox has an other function.
See attached a sketch. I'm realy not a designer ...   ;-)

Best regards

Ed



Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. August 2018 um 13:22 Uhr
Von: "Maxim Solodovnik" 
An: "Openmeetings user-list" 
Cc: greenes 
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSSION] new WB tool and icons
Thanks a lot for your thoughts and mockups :)))
Some of your ideas were implemented

I would appreciate if you can check our demo-next server:
https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next
And tell me what else can be done
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:49 AM Ludovic MESSINGER  wrote:

Hi all,

Removing the line is a good idea. We could let lines to separate "theme".
To have a better look, I would give the icons the same size and add a
little more space arround the icons (to le them "breathe")

I like the icons with the flat style, even if they have the same color,
it is something we can see in a lot of GUI nowadays.

The highlighter icon made by Jorge Alberto is more representative.

I have linked a picture to illustrate this.

Regards,
Ludovic





Le 11/08/2018 à 11:16, Alvaro a écrit :

Hello Maxim,

The new icons are nices, but it are
now in OM whiteboard toolbar are more appropiate,
because:

1)
They are of differents colors between them,
and that is good, because if you are reading-looking
a document in the white board and look to the
toolbar and see all the icons of the same clear
color, someone can feel sick looking for he/she need,
and no all the new icons are clear his use.

2)
The best, for my understending, is to continue using
that are now but deleting the lines separation between
each icon.
Please, take a look the attached picture.

3)
The ease of use must be first, and secondly the design.

Regards

Alvaro


-


El sáb, 11-08-2018 a las 11:37 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:

Hello All,

There is one more JIRA I would like to implement before 4.0.5
release:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1884

Jorge Alberto Londoño Giraldo propose new tool and have created new
WB icons
Do you like the idea?
Should we switch to new icons?




--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax



--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax