date:20201209

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Disabling captcha

2020-12-09 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

there is plenty of time
even JIRA is not created :))

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 11:43, Ali Alhaidary 
wrote:

> Yes, you may use it for Farsi and Urdu as well.
>
> 05D0-05EA for Hebrew
>
> But, give me some time for 'Kurdish' as users are mostly using 'Kurdish
> Sorani' and not 'Kurdish Kurmanji'
>
> On 12/10/20 6:55 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Is it for Arabic only? (maybe it also will work for Persian) ?
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 10:33, Ali Alhaidary 
> wrote:
>
>> 0627-063A
>>
>> This the common range as other characters are scattered in the table and
>> can not be in one range...
>>
>> https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0600.pdf
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/20 6:21 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> please re-read my post
>>
>> especially this part:
>> *If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the
>> range specific to your language*
>> *NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should
>> be less than code for the second one*
>> *codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/
>> *
>>
>> For Arabic the above mean:
>> 1) go to http://www.unicode.org/charts/
>> 2) choose `Arabic`
>> 3) send me the range for ex:
>> start (code 0621)  ء
>> end (code 064A)  ي
>>
>>
>> I don't think 0-9 is a good idea in general
>> so you can do this change later on for your local installation
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:41, Ali Alhaidary 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> unless 'A-Z' is the same as 'a-z', it will confuse so many users, first,
>>> they do not use Latin characters, second, 'capital' concept does not exist
>>> in their alphabets. can it be only numerals '0-9' ?
>>> On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> the plan will be:
>>> 1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file
>>> 2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z'
>>>
>>> If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the
>>> range specific to your language
>>> NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should
>>> be less than code for the second one
>>> codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and
 informing the user accordingly is a fantastic idea.

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik 
 wrote:

> Well,
> the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize
> it (upgrade might be an issue here ...)
>
> Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to
> every language here
>
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
> with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages
>
> site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...)
> WDYT?
>
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas 
> wrote:
>
>> I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of
>> our friends, to avoid any misunderstandings:
>>
>> "terrific" means "wonderful"
>>
>> "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!
>>
>> English is a fun language.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small
 ones?
 And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English
 letters 'A' - 'Z' only 

 On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas 
 wrote:

> Dear Friends,
>
> My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem
> with using Latin letters in the captcha.
>
> My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that
> the characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l.  
> Or
> capital I verus ].  Or m versus n. Or g versus q.  Often, the letters 
> are
> sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but 
> also to
> Robert and other humans to distinguish.  As a result, several 
> captchas are
> often needed till a person can get it.
>
> Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have
> patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time
> pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only 
> in the
> very last minute, that's a separate question)...
>
> Thank you.
> Robert
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Disabling captcha

2020-12-09 Thread Ali Alhaidary


Yes, you may use it for Farsi and Urdu as well.

05D0-05EA for Hebrew

But, give me some time for 'Kurdish' as users are mostly using 'Kurdish 
Sorani' and not 'Kurdish Kurmanji'



On 12/10/20 6:55 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

Is it for Arabic only? (maybe it also will work for Persian) ?

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 10:33, Ali Alhaidary 
mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:


0627-063A

This the common range as other characters are scattered in the
table and can not be in one range...

https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0600.pdf


On 12/10/20 6:21 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

please re-read my post

especially this part:
*If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me
the range specific to your language*
*NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first
letter should be less than code for the second one*
*codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/*

For Arabic the above mean:
1) go to http://www.unicode.org/charts/
2) choose `Arabic`
3) send me the range for ex:
        start (code 0621)  ء
        end (code 064A)  ي


I don't think 0-9 is a good idea in general
so you can do this change later on for your local installation

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:41, Ali Alhaidary
mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:

unless 'A-Z' is the same as 'a-z', it will confuse so many
users, first, they do not use Latin characters, second,
'capital' concept does not exist in their alphabets. can it
be only numerals '0-9' ?

On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

Hello All,

the plan will be:
1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file
2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z'

If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send
me the range specific to your language
NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first
letter should be less than code for the second one
codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/

Thanks in advance

[1]

https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital
letters and informing the user accordingly is a
fantastic idea.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik
mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well,
the info text is just a label, site admin can
re-translate/customize it (upgrade might be an issue
here ...)

Additionally we might add
`captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to every
language here

https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages

site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an
issue ...)
WDYT?

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just realized that I should offer this
clarification for some of our friends, to avoid
any misunderstandings:

"terrific" means "wonderful"

"terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!

English is a fun language.


On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik
mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Would it help if Capital letters will be
used instead of small ones?
And maybe there will be text like:
Captcha consist of English letters 'A' -
'Z' only 

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert
Savickas mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear Friends,

My users, some of whom use non-Latin
alfabets, have no problem with using
Latin letters in the captcha.

My current problem with the captcha,
shared by my users is that the
characters are often hard to
recognize. Capital I vesus small l.

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Disabling captcha

2020-12-09 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

Is it for Arabic only? (maybe it also will work for Persian) ?

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 10:33, Ali Alhaidary 
wrote:

> 0627-063A
>
> This the common range as other characters are scattered in the table and
> can not be in one range...
>
> https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0600.pdf
>
>
> On 12/10/20 6:21 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> please re-read my post
>
> especially this part:
> *If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the range
> specific to your language*
> *NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should
> be less than code for the second one*
> *codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/
> *
>
> For Arabic the above mean:
> 1) go to http://www.unicode.org/charts/
> 2) choose `Arabic`
> 3) send me the range for ex:
> start (code 0621)  ء
> end (code 064A)  ي
>
>
> I don't think 0-9 is a good idea in general
> so you can do this change later on for your local installation
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:41, Ali Alhaidary 
> wrote:
>
>> unless 'A-Z' is the same as 'a-z', it will confuse so many users, first,
>> they do not use Latin characters, second, 'capital' concept does not exist
>> in their alphabets. can it be only numerals '0-9' ?
>> On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> the plan will be:
>> 1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file
>> 2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z'
>>
>> If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the range
>> specific to your language
>> NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should
>> be less than code for the second one
>> codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and
>>> informing the user accordingly is a fantastic idea.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Well,
 the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize it
 (upgrade might be an issue here ...)

 Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to
 every language here

 https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
 with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages

 site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...)
 WDYT?

 On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas 
 wrote:

> I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of our
> friends, to avoid any misunderstandings:
>
> "terrific" means "wonderful"
>
> "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!
>
> English is a fun language.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas 
> wrote:
>
>> Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small ones?
>>> And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English
>>> letters 'A' - 'Z' only 
>>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear Friends,

 My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem with
 using Latin letters in the captcha.

 My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that the
 characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l.  Or
 capital I verus ].  Or m versus n. Or g versus q.  Often, the letters 
 are
 sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but 
 also to
 Robert and other humans to distinguish.  As a result, several captchas 
 are
 often needed till a person can get it.

 Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have
 patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time
 pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only in 
 the
 very last minute, that's a separate question)...

 Thank you.
 Robert


 On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik 
 wrote:

> the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine
> alphabet by language
> the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet 
>
> start and end character can be manually specified here
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>
> Another option might be to made this range _optional_
> so

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Disabling captcha

2020-12-09 Thread Ali Alhaidary


0627-063A

This the common range as other characters are scattered in the table and 
can not be in one range...


https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0600.pdf


On 12/10/20 6:21 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

please re-read my post

especially this part:
*If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the 
range specific to your language*
*NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter 
should be less than code for the second one*

*codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/*

For Arabic the above mean:
1) go to http://www.unicode.org/charts/
2) choose `Arabic`
3) send me the range for ex:
        start (code 0621)  ء
        end (code 064A)  ي


I don't think 0-9 is a good idea in general
so you can do this change later on for your local installation

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:41, Ali Alhaidary 
mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:


unless 'A-Z' is the same as 'a-z', it will confuse so many users,
first, they do not use Latin characters, second, 'capital' concept
does not exist in their alphabets. can it be only numerals '0-9' ?

On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

Hello All,

the plan will be:
1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file
2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z'

If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me
the range specific to your language
NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter
should be less than code for the second one
codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/

Thanks in advance

[1]

https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters
and informing the user accordingly is a fantastic idea.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik
mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well,
the info text is just a label, site admin can
re-translate/customize it (upgrade might be an issue here
...)

Additionally we might add
`captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to every language
here

https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages

site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an
issue ...)
WDYT?

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just realized that I should offer this
clarification for some of our friends, to avoid any
misunderstandings:

"terrific" means "wonderful"

"terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!

English is a fun language.


On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik
mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Would it help if Capital letters will be used
instead of small ones?
And maybe there will be text like: Captcha
consist of English letters 'A' - 'Z' only 

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear Friends,

My users, some of whom use non-Latin
alfabets, have no problem with using
Latin letters in the captcha.

My current problem with the captcha,
shared by my users is that the characters
are often hard to recognize. Capital I
vesus small l.  Or capital I verus ].  Or
m versus n. Or g versus q.  Often, the
letters are sufficiently deformed so as
to be difficult not only to Robot, but
also to Robert and other humans to
distinguish.  As a result, several
captchas are often needed till a person
can get it.

Granted, it is a terrific tool for
teaching folks how to have patience,
highly recommended. But sometimes, folks
are under the time pressure to enter the
meeting (now, why

Re: build#180

2020-12-09 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

these are the sort description of what was changed
1) `labels synced, random locale is printed during tests`
   "labels synced" labels from POEditor were added to Om codebase
   "random locale is printed during tests" random locale is selected before
every test, so we can find locale based issue, now this locale is printed
to the logs during tests so later on I can find out which locale is
"trouble maker"

2) "unused label is removed" I found one of the labels was not used in OM
UI (present in language files only) so it was removed

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:50, Ali Alhaidary 
wrote:

> what does it mean? as in the next build it says 'unused label is removed'
>
> Ali
> On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> it is git commit message :)))
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:31, Ali Alhaidary 
> wrote:
>
>> what is:
>>
>> labels synced, random locale is printed during tests
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Disabling captcha

2020-12-09 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

please re-read my post

especially this part:
*If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the range
specific to your language*
*NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should
be less than code for the second one*
*codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/
*

For Arabic the above mean:
1) go to http://www.unicode.org/charts/
2) choose `Arabic`
3) send me the range for ex:
start (code 0621)  ء
end (code 064A)  ي


I don't think 0-9 is a good idea in general
so you can do this change later on for your local installation

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:41, Ali Alhaidary 
wrote:

> unless 'A-Z' is the same as 'a-z', it will confuse so many users, first,
> they do not use Latin characters, second, 'capital' concept does not exist
> in their alphabets. can it be only numerals '0-9' ?
> On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> the plan will be:
> 1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file
> 2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z'
>
> If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the range
> specific to your language
> NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should
> be less than code for the second one
> codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and
>> informing the user accordingly is a fantastic idea.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
>>
>>> Well,
>>> the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize it
>>> (upgrade might be an issue here ...)
>>>
>>> Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to
>>> every language here
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>>> with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages
>>>
>>> site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...)
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of our
 friends, to avoid any misunderstandings:

 "terrific" means "wonderful"

 "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!

 English is a fun language.


 On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas 
 wrote:

> Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
>> Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small ones?
>> And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English letters
>> 'A' - 'Z' only 
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem with
>>> using Latin letters in the captcha.
>>>
>>> My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that the
>>> characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l.  Or
>>> capital I verus ].  Or m versus n. Or g versus q.  Often, the letters 
>>> are
>>> sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but also 
>>> to
>>> Robert and other humans to distinguish.  As a result, several captchas 
>>> are
>>> often needed till a person can get it.
>>>
>>> Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have
>>> patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time
>>> pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only in 
>>> the
>>> very last minute, that's a separate question)...
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine
 alphabet by language
 the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet 

 start and end character can be manually specified here
 https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml

 Another option might be to made this range _optional_
 so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not specified 
 Not sure is someone will bother to specify different range ...

 but I'm not sure how good is this idea :(((

 @Robert what kind of difficulties your user have with the captcha?


 On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:28, Ali Alhaidary <
 ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:

> We can write the language name on the 'new user' or 'change
> password'
>>

Re: REST problem

2020-12-09 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

Re: build#180

2020-12-09 Thread Ali Alhaidary


what does it mean? as in the next build it says 'unused label is removed'

Ali

On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

it is git commit message :)))

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:31, Ali Alhaidary 
mailto:ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org>> wrote:


what is:

labels synced, random locale is printed during tests




--
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Disabling captcha

2020-12-09 Thread Ali Alhaidary

unless 'A-Z' is the same as 'a-z', it will confuse so many users, first, 
they do not use Latin characters, second, 'capital' concept does not 
exist in their alphabets. can it be only numerals '0-9' ?


On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

Hello All,

the plan will be:
1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file
2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z'

If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the 
range specific to your language
NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter 
should be less than code for the second one

codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/

Thanks in advance

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml


On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas > wrote:


Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and
informing the user accordingly is a fantastic idea.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well,
the info text is just a label, site admin can
re-translate/customize it (upgrade might be an issue here ...)

Additionally we might add
`captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to every language here

https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages

site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...)
WDYT?

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just realized that I should offer this clarification for
some of our friends, to avoid any misunderstandings:

"terrific" means "wonderful"

"terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!

English is a fun language.


On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik
mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Would it help if Capital letters will be used
instead of small ones?
And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist
of English letters 'A' - 'Z' only 

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas
mailto:robsavic...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear Friends,

My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets,
have no problem with using Latin letters in
the captcha.

My current problem with the captcha, shared by
my users is that the characters are often hard
to recognize. Capital I vesus small l.  Or
capital I verus ].  Or m versus n. Or g versus
q.  Often, the letters are sufficiently
deformed so as to be difficult not only to
Robot, but also to Robert and other humans to
distinguish.  As a result, several captchas
are often needed till a person can get it.

Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching
folks how to have patience, highly
recommended. But sometimes, folks are under
the time pressure to enter the meeting (now,
why do they try to connect only in the very
last minute, that's a separate question)...

Thank you.
Robert


On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik
mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

the bad news: there seems to be no
universal way to determine alphabet by
language
the ugly news: there are languages without
alphabet 

start and end character can be manually
specified here

https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml


Another option might be to made this range
_optional_
so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not
specified 
Not sure is someone will bother to specify
different range ...

but I'm not sure how good is this idea :(((

Re: build#180

2020-12-09 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

it is git commit message :)))

On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:31, Ali Alhaidary 
wrote:

> what is:
>
> labels synced, random locale is printed during tests
>
>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

[ACTION REQUIRED] Disabling captcha

2020-12-09 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

Hello All,

the plan will be:
1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file
2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z'

If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the range
specific to your language
NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should be
less than code for the second one
codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/

Thanks in advance

[1]
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas  wrote:

> Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and informing
> the user accordingly is a fantastic idea.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
>
>> Well,
>> the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize it
>> (upgrade might be an issue here ...)
>>
>> Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to
>> every language here
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>> with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages
>>
>> site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...)
>> WDYT?
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of our
>>> friends, to avoid any misunderstandings:
>>>
>>> "terrific" means "wonderful"
>>>
>>> "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"!
>>>
>>> English is a fun language.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik 
 wrote:

> Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small ones?
> And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English letters
> 'A' - 'Z' only 
>
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem with
>> using Latin letters in the captcha.
>>
>> My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that the
>> characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l.  Or
>> capital I verus ].  Or m versus n. Or g versus q.  Often, the letters are
>> sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but also 
>> to
>> Robert and other humans to distinguish.  As a result, several captchas 
>> are
>> often needed till a person can get it.
>>
>> Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have
>> patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time
>> pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only in 
>> the
>> very last minute, that's a separate question)...
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine
>>> alphabet by language
>>> the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet 
>>>
>>> start and end character can be manually specified here
>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml
>>>
>>> Another option might be to made this range _optional_
>>> so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not specified 
>>> Not sure is someone will bother to specify different range ...
>>>
>>> but I'm not sure how good is this idea :(((
>>>
>>> @Robert what kind of difficulties your user have with the captcha?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:28, Ali Alhaidary <
>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>
 We can write the language name on the 'new user' or 'change
 password'
 screens ...

 On 12/2/20 4:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
 > It is definitely can be localized
 > unfortunately this might lead to issues with guessing the text
 > for ex. many letters in Russian looks exactly as in English but
 the
 > text will not be equal :((
 >
 > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 19:05, Ali Alhaidary <
 ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
 >> If no votes are collected, can we localize it?
 >>
 >>
 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31828048/how-to-set-localization-in-google-recaptcha
 >>
 >>
 >> On 12/2/20 2:59 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
 >>
 >> Any more votes?
 >>
 >> On 12/1/20 2:22 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote:
 >>
 >> I am with it :-)
 >>
 >> On 12/1/20 2:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
 >>
 >> And as usual I'll add such switch if there will be enough votes
 for it
 >> while I, personally, will not recommend to use it
 >>

build#180

2020-12-09 Thread Ali Alhaidary


what is:

labels synced, random locale is printed during tests

Re: REST problem

2020-12-09 Thread Varga Balázs

Re: REST problem

2020-12-09 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

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