there is plenty of time even JIRA is not created :)) On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 11:43, Ali Alhaidary <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, you may use it for Farsi and Urdu as well. > > 05D0-05EA for Hebrew > > But, give me some time for 'Kurdish' as users are mostly using 'Kurdish > Sorani' and not 'Kurdish Kurmanji' > > On 12/10/20 6:55 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > > Is it for Arabic only? (maybe it also will work for Persian) ? > > On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 10:33, Ali Alhaidary <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> 0627-063A >> >> This the common range as other characters are scattered in the table and >> can not be in one range... >> >> https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0600.pdf >> >> >> On 12/10/20 6:21 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >> >> please re-read my post >> >> especially this part: >> *If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the >> range specific to your language* >> *NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should >> be less than code for the second one* >> *codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/ >> <http://www.unicode.org/charts/>* >> >> For Arabic the above mean: >> 1) go to http://www.unicode.org/charts/ >> 2) choose `Arabic` >> 3) send me the range for ex: >> start (code 0621) ء >> end (code 064A) ي >> >> >> I don't think 0-9 is a good idea in general >> so you can do this change later on for your local installation >> >> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:41, Ali Alhaidary <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> unless 'A-Z' is the same as 'a-z', it will confuse so many users, first, >>> they do not use Latin characters, second, 'capital' concept does not exist >>> in their alphabets. can it be only numerals '0-9' ? >>> On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> the plan will be: >>> 1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file >>> 2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z' >>> >>> If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the >>> range specific to your language >>> NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should >>> be less than code for the second one >>> codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/ >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> [1] >>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml >>> >>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and >>>> informing the user accordingly is a fantastic idea. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, >>>>> the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize >>>>> it (upgrade might be an issue here ...) >>>>> >>>>> Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to >>>>> every language here >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml >>>>> with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages >>>>> >>>>> site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...) >>>>> WDYT? >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of >>>>>> our friends, to avoid any misunderstandings: >>>>>> >>>>>> "terrific" means "wonderful" >>>>>> >>>>>> "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"! >>>>>> >>>>>> English is a fun language. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small >>>>>>>> ones? >>>>>>>> And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English >>>>>>>> letters 'A' - 'Z' only .... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem >>>>>>>>> with using Latin letters in the captcha. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that >>>>>>>>> the characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l. >>>>>>>>> Or >>>>>>>>> capital I verus ]. Or m versus n. Or g versus q. Often, the letters >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but >>>>>>>>> also to >>>>>>>>> Robert and other humans to distinguish. As a result, several >>>>>>>>> captchas are >>>>>>>>> often needed till a person can get it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have >>>>>>>>> patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time >>>>>>>>> pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only >>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>> very last minute, that's a separate question)... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine >>>>>>>>>> alphabet by language >>>>>>>>>> the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet .... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> start and end character can be manually specified here >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Another option might be to made this range _optional_ >>>>>>>>>> so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not specified .... >>>>>>>>>> Not sure is someone will bother to specify different range ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but I'm not sure how good is this idea :((( >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @Robert what kind of difficulties your user have with the captcha? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:28, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We can write the language name on the 'new user' or 'change >>>>>>>>>>> password' >>>>>>>>>>> screens ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/2/20 4:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > It is definitely can be localized >>>>>>>>>>> > unfortunately this might lead to issues with guessing the text >>>>>>>>>>> > for ex. many letters in Russian looks exactly as in English >>>>>>>>>>> but the >>>>>>>>>>> > text will not be equal :(( >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 19:05, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >> If no votes are collected, can we localize it? >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31828048/how-to-set-localization-in-google-recaptcha >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/20 2:59 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> Any more votes? >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:22 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> I am with it :-) >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> And as usual I'll add such switch if there will be enough >>>>>>>>>>> votes for it >>>>>>>>>>> >> while I, personally, will not recommend to use it >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 13:14, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>> True, one can not always get what he loves :-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> On 11/30/20 9:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Well, >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> I'm not a big fan of such "enhancements" >>>>>>>>>>> >>> with all these options password "can be 'qwerty' again" .... >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 12:58, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> I would love it to be an option like caps and special >>>>>>>>>>> characters, especially with the difficulty of RTL users like ours >>>>>>>>>>> :-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On 11/30/20 8:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Hello Robert, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> it is currently impossible without code modification >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 14:37, Robert Savickas < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Dear Maxim, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to disable captcha when changing the >>>>>>>>>>> password? The images are often difficult to read, and many users >>>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>>> reset the captcha image a few times, till they finally get it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 01:15 Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I have added notifications to OM (as part of >>>>>>>>>>> OPENMEETINGS-2190) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please take a look at demo-next and tell me >>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> maybe it should be improved somehow? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> text, icon, anything else :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> >> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Maxim >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > -- Best regards, Maxim
