Re: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-07 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
This way you will hardly know how many people are currently sending video
And it might be painful to scroll and search who is talking right now

In addition in such case video windows will be "jailed" in this video area
(currently you have an option to organize it as you wish ...)

PS @Amit , could you please modify your mail filters and remove "RE:
Warning!!!PossibleSpam" ? Thanks in advance

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:

> That would be great! ;-) So far, good discussion guys ;-) Everything will
> become fine!
>
>
>
>
> Am 07.06.2018 06:48, schrieb K, Amit (MIND):
>
> By default we can show limited say six or nine (3*3 OR 3*2) and can give
> scroll or show all option.
>
>
>
> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:13 AM
> *To:* Openmeetings user-list 
> *Subject:* Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: Get in challenge with the flash
> audio setup
>
>
>
> I'm afraid it will overlap in current implementation
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Stefan Kühl 
> wrote:
>
> For me it's ok and it doesn't matter. Most of my meetings will be audio
> only, thats why I'm looking for a method to give a mximum size of this
> video pods. ;-)
>
> But what about the number of participant. How will this behave if we got
> more then 20 members in the meeting. Will the video pods "fade out" on the
> right sight or will they "stack" in another line?
>
> Greetz Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 07.06.2018 05:08, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Please also NOTE: video windows are placed to this tiny video area, even
> if it doesn't fit 
>
> So the result might be not very accurate in case broadcasting users choose
> huge camera 
>
>
>
> I can make screen-shots to demonstrate the effect ...
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Daniel Ascher <
> aplusad...@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. I would not have a problem with this roomtype being added to
> the open-source version. :)  We use the name "Virtual Classroom" but maybe
> others have a better idea for a name for the roomtype?
>
>
>
> I don't like the idea of replacing the current conference roomtype. But
> maybe that would be something to consider in the future.
>
>
>
> Regarding the chat and "list of open whiteboards" tabs, maybe folks could
> try it out as is now to see if it works or is a problem. And then if people
> want those things changed it can be discussed later.
>
>
>
> Just my thoughts on this.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
>
> Good Idea, I agree.
> Maybe it would be a general replacement for the conference type?
>
> Greetz Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 06.06.2018 09:13, schrieb Peter Dähn:
>
> I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.
>
> Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use case. How 
> will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?
>
>
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Daniel, I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is
> OK with you :) Couple notes: 1) We need good name for this new room type 2)
> This custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It would
> be impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously open
> ... On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl 
> wrote:
>
> Well, I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be
> very helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files
> which have to be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with
> it. Thanks Stefan Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher: In our case
> it was a custom roomtype developed for us. I don't know if there is
> interest in making this a standard roomtype (in addition to the three
> already in existence) or if you'd have to have a developer create it for
> you. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:34 AM,  wrote:
>
> I was unaware that someone had created a room type for the "pods" above.
> Where would one find such an example, as that would fit the needs of some I
> know. *From:* Daniel Ascher [mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com] *Sent:*
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM *To:* Openmeetings user-list <
> user@openmeetings.apache.org> *Subject:* Re: Get in challenge with the
> flash audio setup Hi all. I agree with everyone that there is an issue with
> how difficult it is for a new user to navigate the audio and video setup
> the first time. I believe it is best to give them a separate link to
> settings 

RE: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-07 Thread Stefan Kühl
 

That would be great! ;-) So far, good discussion guys ;-) Everything
will become fine! 

Am 07.06.2018 06:48, schrieb K, Amit (MIND): 

> By default we can show limited say six or nine (3*3 OR 3*2) and can give 
> scroll or show all option. 
> 
> FROM: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com] 
> SENT: Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:13 AM
> TO: Openmeetings user-list 
> SUBJECT: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio 
> setup 
> 
> I'm afraid it will overlap in current implementation 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Stefan Kühl  wrote: 
> 
> For me it's ok and it doesn't matter. Most of my meetings will be audio only, 
> thats why I'm looking for a method to give a mximum size of this video pods. 
> ;-) 
> 
> But what about the number of participant. How will this behave if we got more 
> then 20 members in the meeting. Will the video pods "fade out" on the right 
> sight or will they "stack" in another line? 
> 
> Greetz Stefan 
> 
> Am 07.06.2018 05:08, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: 
> 
> Please also NOTE: video windows are placed to this tiny video area, even if 
> it doesn't fit  
> 
> So the result might be not very accurate in case broadcasting users choose 
> huge camera  
> 
> I can make screen-shots to demonstrate the effect ... 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Daniel Ascher  
> wrote: 
> 
> Hi everyone. I would not have a problem with this roomtype being added to the 
> open-source version. :) We use the name "Virtual Classroom" but maybe others 
> have a better idea for a name for the roomtype? 
> 
> I don't like the idea of replacing the current conference roomtype. But maybe 
> that would be something to consider in the future. 
> 
> Regarding the chat and "list of open whiteboards" tabs, maybe folks could try 
> it out as is now to see if it works or is a problem. And then if people want 
> those things changed it can be discussed later. 
> 
> Just my thoughts on this. 
> 
> Dan 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Stefan Kühl  wrote: 
> 
> Good Idea, I agree.
> Maybe it would be a general replacement for the conference type? 
> 
> Greetz Stefan 
> 
> Am 06.06.2018 09:13, schrieb Peter Dähn: 
> 
> I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.
> 
> Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use case. How 
> will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?
> 
> Greetings Peter
> 
> Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> 
> Hello Daniel, I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is OK 
> with you :) Couple notes: 1) We need good name for this new room type 2) This 
> custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It would be 
> impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously open ... On 
> Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote: 
> 
> Well, I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be very 
> helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files which have 
> to be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with it. Thanks 
> Stefan Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher: In our case it was a 
> custom roomtype developed for us. I don't know if there is interest in making 
> this a standard roomtype (in addition to the three already in existence) or 
> if you'd have to have a developer create it for you. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 
> 10:34 AM,  wrote: 
> 
> I was unaware that someone had created a room type for the "pods" above. 
> Where would one find such an example, as that would fit the needs of some I 
> know. *From:* Daniel Ascher [mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com] *Sent:* 
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM *To:* Openmeetings user-list 
>  *Subject:* Re: Get in challenge with the flash 
> audio setup Hi all. I agree with everyone that there is an issue with how 
> difficult it is for a new user to navigate the audio and video setup the 
> first time. I believe it is best to give them a separate link to settings 
> before their first meeting, as Maxim mentioned, such as: 
> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings [1] But it would 
> be great to have some improvements in this area if possible so it's easier to 
> use. Also, by the way, we have a custom roomtype with space for the video 
> pods at the top. See screenshot below. I think this is a good solution for 
> some of you. Cheers. Dan On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38
AM, Peter Dähn  wrote: I don't like that idea with tha 
additional board... in case one's szenario is with video, whiteboard and chat 
this will not work... maybe the idea with the video-panel.. I think we already 
discussed this

RE: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-06 Thread K, Amit (MIND)
By default we can show limited say six or nine (3*3 OR 3*2) and can give scroll 
or show all option.

From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:13 AM
To: Openmeetings user-list 
Subject: Warning!!!PossibleSpam Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

I'm afraid it will overlap in current implementation

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Stefan Kühl 
mailto:ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>> wrote:

For me it's ok and it doesn't matter. Most of my meetings will be audio only, 
thats why I'm looking for a method to give a mximum size of this video pods. ;-)

But what about the number of participant. How will this behave if we got more 
then 20 members in the meeting. Will the video pods "fade out" on the right 
sight or will they "stack" in another line?

Greetz Stefan




Am 07.06.2018 05:08, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Please also NOTE: video windows are placed to this tiny video area, even if it 
doesn't fit 
So the result might be not very accurate in case broadcasting users choose huge 
camera 

I can make screen-shots to demonstrate the effect ...

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Daniel Ascher 
mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone. I would not have a problem with this roomtype being added to the 
open-source version. :)  We use the name "Virtual Classroom" but maybe others 
have a better idea for a name for the roomtype?

I don't like the idea of replacing the current conference roomtype. But maybe 
that would be something to consider in the future.

Regarding the chat and "list of open whiteboards" tabs, maybe folks could try 
it out as is now to see if it works or is a problem. And then if people want 
those things changed it can be discussed later.

Just my thoughts on this.

Dan


On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Stefan Kühl 
mailto:ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>> wrote:

Good Idea, I agree.
Maybe it would be a general replacement for the conference type?

Greetz Stefan




Am 06.06.2018 09:13, schrieb Peter Dähn:

I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.

Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use case. How 
will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?



Greetings Peter



Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Hello Daniel, I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is OK 
with you :) Couple notes: 1) We need good name for this new room type 2) This 
custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It would be 
impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously open ... On 
Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl 
mailto:ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>> wrote:
Well, I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be very 
helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files which have to 
be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with it. Thanks Stefan 
Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher: In our case it was a custom 
roomtype developed for us. I don't know if there is interest in making this a 
standard roomtype (in addition to the three already in existence) or if you'd 
have to have a developer create it for you. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:34 AM, 
mailto:aaron.h...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I was unaware that someone had created a room type for the "pods" above. Where 
would one find such an example, as that would fit the needs of some I know. 
*From:* Daniel Ascher 
[mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com<mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>] 
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM *To:* Openmeetings user-list 
mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>> *Subject:* 
Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup Hi all. I agree with everyone 
that there is an issue with how difficult it is for a new user to navigate the 
audio and video setup the first time. I believe it is best to give them a 
separate link to settings before their first meeting, as Maxim mentioned, such 
as: https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings But it would be 
great to have some improvements in this area if possible so it's easier to use. 
Also, by the way, we have a custom roomtype with space for the video pods at 
the top. See screenshot below. I think this is a good solution for some of you. 
Cheers. Dan On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Peter Dähn 
mailto:da...@vcrp.de>> wrote: I don't like that idea with tha 
additional board... in case one's szenario is with video, whiteboard and chat 
this will not work... maybe the idea with the video-panel.. I think we already 
discussed this... but I can not remember the outcome... ;-) Hotkey to minimize 
all videos would be good. A button somewhere would be better... something like 
that... Greetings Peter Am 05.06.2018 um 13:02 schrieb Stefan Kühl: Nice! But 
this won't help me out. I don't need the Chat area, too. All I need ist enough 
space for the whiteboard, also an sm

Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-06 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
I'm afraid it will overlap in current implementation

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:

> For me it's ok and it doesn't matter. Most of my meetings will be audio
> only, thats why I'm looking for a method to give a mximum size of this
> video pods. ;-)
>
> But what about the number of participant. How will this behave if we got
> more then 20 members in the meeting. Will the video pods "fade out" on the
> right sight or will they "stack" in another line?
>
> Greetz Stefan
>
>
>
>
> Am 07.06.2018 05:08, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Please also NOTE: video windows are placed to this tiny video area, even
> if it doesn't fit 
> So the result might be not very accurate in case broadcasting users choose
> huge camera 
>
> I can make screen-shots to demonstrate the effect ...
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Daniel Ascher <
> aplusad...@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone. I would not have a problem with this roomtype being added to
>> the open-source version. :)  We use the name "Virtual Classroom" but maybe
>> others have a better idea for a name for the roomtype?
>>
>> I don't like the idea of replacing the current conference roomtype. But
>> maybe that would be something to consider in the future.
>>
>> Regarding the chat and "list of open whiteboards" tabs, maybe folks could
>> try it out as is now to see if it works or is a problem. And then if people
>> want those things changed it can be discussed later.
>>
>> Just my thoughts on this.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Stefan Kühl 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good Idea, I agree.
>>> Maybe it would be a general replacement for the conference type?
>>>
>>> Greetz Stefan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 06.06.2018 09:13, schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>>
>>> I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.
>>> Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use case. 
>>> How will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>> Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello Daniel, I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is
>>> OK with you :) Couple notes: 1) We need good name for this new room type 2)
>>> This custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It would
>>> be impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously open
>>> ... On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be
>>> very helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files
>>> which have to be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with
>>> it. Thanks Stefan Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher: In our case
>>> it was a custom roomtype developed for us. I don't know if there is
>>> interest in making this a standard roomtype (in addition to the three
>>> already in existence) or if you'd have to have a developer create it for
>>> you. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:34 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> I was unaware that someone had created a room type for the "pods" above.
>>> Where would one find such an example, as that would fit the needs of some I
>>> know. *From:* Daniel Ascher [mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com]
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM *To:* Openmeetings user-list <
>>> user@openmeetings.apache.org> *Subject:* Re: Get in challenge with the
>>> flash audio setup Hi all. I agree with everyone that there is an issue with
>>> how difficult it is for a new user to navigate the audio and video setup
>>> the first time. I believe it is best to give them a separate link to
>>> settings before their first meeting, as Maxim mentioned, such as:
>>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings But it
>>> would be great to have some improvements in this area if possible so it's
>>> easier to use. Also, by the way, we have a custom roomtype with space for
>>> the video pods at the top. See screenshot below. I think this is a good
>>> solution for some of you. Cheers. Dan On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Peter
>>> Dähn  wrote: I don't like that idea with tha additional
>>> board... in case one's szenario is with video, whiteboard and chat this
>>> will not work... maybe the idea with the video-panel.. I think we already
>>&g

Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-06 Thread Stefan Kühl
 

For me it's ok and it doesn't matter. Most of my meetings will be audio
only, thats why I'm looking for a method to give a mximum size of this
video pods. ;-) 

But what about the number of participant. How will this behave if we got
more then 20 members in the meeting. Will the video pods "fade out" on
the right sight or will they "stack" in another line? 

Greetz Stefan 

Am 07.06.2018 05:08, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: 

> Please also NOTE: video windows are placed to this tiny video area, even if 
> it doesn't fit  
> So the result might be not very accurate in case broadcasting users choose 
> huge camera  
> 
> I can make screen-shots to demonstrate the effect ... 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Daniel Ascher  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone. I would not have a problem with this roomtype being added to the 
> open-source version. :) We use the name "Virtual Classroom" but maybe others 
> have a better idea for a name for the roomtype? 
> 
> I don't like the idea of replacing the current conference roomtype. But maybe 
> that would be something to consider in the future. 
> 
> Regarding the chat and "list of open whiteboards" tabs, maybe folks could try 
> it out as is now to see if it works or is a problem. And then if people want 
> those things changed it can be discussed later. 
> 
> Just my thoughts on this. 
> 
> Dan 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> 
> Good Idea, I agree.
> Maybe it would be a general replacement for the conference type? 
> 
> Greetz Stefan 
> 
> Am 06.06.2018 09:13, schrieb Peter Dähn: 
> 
> I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.
> Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use case. How 
> will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?
> 
> Greetings Peter
> 
> Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Hello Daniel, I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is OK 
> with you :) Couple notes: 1) We need good name for this new room type 2) This 
> custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It would be 
> impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously open ... On 
> Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote: Well, 
> I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be very 
> helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files which have 
> to be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with it. Thanks 
> Stefan Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher: In our case it was a 
> custom roomtype developed for us. I don't know if there is interest in making 
> this a standard roomtype (in addition to the three already in existence) or 
> if you'd have to have a developer create it for you. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 
> 10:34 AM,  wrote: I was unaware that someone had 
> created a room
type for the "pods" above. Where would one find such an example, as that would 
fit the needs of some I know. *From:* Daniel Ascher 
[mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM 
*To:* Openmeetings user-list  *Subject:* Re: Get 
in challenge with the flash audio setup Hi all. I agree with everyone that 
there is an issue with how difficult it is for a new user to navigate the audio 
and video setup the first time. I believe it is best to give them a separate 
link to settings before their first meeting, as Maxim mentioned, such as: 
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings [1] But it would be 
great to have some improvements in this area if possible so it's easier to use. 
Also, by the way, we have a custom roomtype with space for the video pods at 
the top. See screenshot below. I think this is a good solution for some of you. 
Cheers. Dan On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Peter Dähn  wrote: I 
don't
like that idea with tha additional board... in case one's szenario is with 
video, whiteboard and chat this will not work... maybe the idea with the 
video-panel.. I think we already discussed this... but I can not remember the 
outcome... ;-) Hotkey to minimize all videos would be good. A button somewhere 
would be better... something like that... Greetings Peter Am 05.06.2018 um 
13:02 schrieb Stefan Kühl: Nice! But this won't help me out. I don't need the 
Chat area, too. All I need ist enough space for the whiteboard, also an small 
displays. ;-) The idea with an additional "board" as a register (you know what 
I mean?) seems to be a helpful solution. WDYT Am 05.06.2018 12:49, schrieb 
Peter Dähn: joop... ;-) let it so!!! otherwise I need to "fix" it with 
custom.css... ;-) Am 05.06.2018 um 12:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: On Tue, Jun 
5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn  wrote: Hi there, by now we 
handle it that way: Not needed videos will be 

Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-06 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
Please also NOTE: video windows are placed to this tiny video area, even if
it doesn't fit 
So the result might be not very accurate in case broadcasting users choose
huge camera 

I can make screen-shots to demonstrate the effect ...

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Daniel Ascher  wrote:

> Hi everyone. I would not have a problem with this roomtype being added to
> the open-source version. :)  We use the name "Virtual Classroom" but maybe
> others have a better idea for a name for the roomtype?
>
> I don't like the idea of replacing the current conference roomtype. But
> maybe that would be something to consider in the future.
>
> Regarding the chat and "list of open whiteboards" tabs, maybe folks could
> try it out as is now to see if it works or is a problem. And then if people
> want those things changed it can be discussed later.
>
> Just my thoughts on this.
>
> Dan
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
>
>> Good Idea, I agree.
>> Maybe it would be a general replacement for the conference type?
>>
>> Greetz Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 06.06.2018 09:13, schrieb Peter Dähn:
>>
>> I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.
>> Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use case. 
>> How will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>> Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Daniel, I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is
>> OK with you :) Couple notes: 1) We need good name for this new room type 2)
>> This custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It would
>> be impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously open
>> ... On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be
>> very helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files
>> which have to be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with
>> it. Thanks Stefan Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher: In our case
>> it was a custom roomtype developed for us. I don't know if there is
>> interest in making this a standard roomtype (in addition to the three
>> already in existence) or if you'd have to have a developer create it for
>> you. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:34 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> I was unaware that someone had created a room type for the "pods" above.
>> Where would one find such an example, as that would fit the needs of some I
>> know. *From:* Daniel Ascher [mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM *To:* Openmeetings user-list <
>> user@openmeetings.apache.org> *Subject:* Re: Get in challenge with the
>> flash audio setup Hi all. I agree with everyone that there is an issue with
>> how difficult it is for a new user to navigate the audio and video setup
>> the first time. I believe it is best to give them a separate link to
>> settings before their first meeting, as Maxim mentioned, such as:
>> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings But it would
>> be great to have some improvements in this area if possible so it's easier
>> to use. Also, by the way, we have a custom roomtype with space for the
>> video pods at the top. See screenshot below. I think this is a good
>> solution for some of you. Cheers. Dan On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Peter
>> Dähn  wrote: I don't like that idea with tha additional
>> board... in case one's szenario is with video, whiteboard and chat this
>> will not work... maybe the idea with the video-panel.. I think we already
>> discussed this... but I can not remember the outcome... ;-) Hotkey to
>> minimize all videos would be good. A button somewhere would be better...
>> something like that... Greetings Peter Am 05.06.2018 um 13:02 schrieb
>> Stefan Kühl: Nice! But this won't help me out. I don't need the Chat area,
>> too. All I need ist enough space for the whiteboard, also an small
>> displays. ;-) The idea with an additional "board" as a register (you know
>> what I mean?) seems to be a helpful solution. WDYT Am 05.06.2018 12:49,
>> schrieb Peter Dähn: joop... ;-) let it so!!! otherwise I need to "fix" it
>> with custom.css... ;-) Am 05.06.2018 um 12:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: On
>> Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn  wrote: Hi there,
>> by now we handle it that way: Not needed videos will be moved under the
>> chat area... This is how "bug" can be turned into "feature" :))) W

Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-06 Thread Daniel Ascher
Hi everyone. I would not have a problem with this roomtype being added to
the open-source version. :)  We use the name "Virtual Classroom" but maybe
others have a better idea for a name for the roomtype?

I don't like the idea of replacing the current conference roomtype. But
maybe that would be something to consider in the future.

Regarding the chat and "list of open whiteboards" tabs, maybe folks could
try it out as is now to see if it works or is a problem. And then if people
want those things changed it can be discussed later.

Just my thoughts on this.

Dan

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:29 AM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:

> Good Idea, I agree.
> Maybe it would be a general replacement for the conference type?
>
> Greetz Stefan
>
>
>
>
> Am 06.06.2018 09:13, schrieb Peter Dähn:
>
> I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.
> Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use case. How 
> will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Daniel, I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is
> OK with you :) Couple notes: 1) We need good name for this new room type 2)
> This custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It would
> be impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously open
> ... On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl 
> wrote:
>
> Well, I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be
> very helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files
> which have to be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with
> it. Thanks Stefan Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher: In our case
> it was a custom roomtype developed for us. I don't know if there is
> interest in making this a standard roomtype (in addition to the three
> already in existence) or if you'd have to have a developer create it for
> you. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:34 AM,  wrote:
>
> I was unaware that someone had created a room type for the "pods" above.
> Where would one find such an example, as that would fit the needs of some I
> know. *From:* Daniel Ascher [mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com] *Sent:*
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM *To:* Openmeetings user-list <
> user@openmeetings.apache.org> *Subject:* Re: Get in challenge with the
> flash audio setup Hi all. I agree with everyone that there is an issue with
> how difficult it is for a new user to navigate the audio and video setup
> the first time. I believe it is best to give them a separate link to
> settings before their first meeting, as Maxim mentioned, such as:
> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings But it would
> be great to have some improvements in this area if possible so it's easier
> to use. Also, by the way, we have a custom roomtype with space for the
> video pods at the top. See screenshot below. I think this is a good
> solution for some of you. Cheers. Dan On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Peter
> Dähn  wrote: I don't like that idea with tha additional
> board... in case one's szenario is with video, whiteboard and chat this
> will not work... maybe the idea with the video-panel.. I think we already
> discussed this... but I can not remember the outcome... ;-) Hotkey to
> minimize all videos would be good. A button somewhere would be better...
> something like that... Greetings Peter Am 05.06.2018 um 13:02 schrieb
> Stefan Kühl: Nice! But this won't help me out. I don't need the Chat area,
> too. All I need ist enough space for the whiteboard, also an small
> displays. ;-) The idea with an additional "board" as a register (you know
> what I mean?) seems to be a helpful solution. WDYT Am 05.06.2018 12:49,
> schrieb Peter Dähn: joop... ;-) let it so!!! otherwise I need to "fix" it
> with custom.css... ;-) Am 05.06.2018 um 12:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: On
> Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn  wrote: Hi there,
> by now we handle it that way: Not needed videos will be moved under the
> chat area... This is how "bug" can be turned into "feature" :))) We also
> provide a "rules"-sheet as "Welcome Page" on the whiteboard. "Click here
> to..." "look there to..." "wait till the sessions starts..." this works
> quite good... Greetings Peter Am 05.06.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Maxim
> Solodovnik: Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be good option
> But this will occupy all the place  and it will be impossible to free
> some space only turn off Video of everyone  On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20
> PM, K, Amit (MIND)  
> wrote: For space specific, I have a suggestion: We can crea

Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-06 Thread Stefan Kühl
 

Good Idea, I agree.
Maybe it would be a general replacement for the conference type? 

Greetz Stefan 

Am 06.06.2018 09:13, schrieb Peter Dähn: 

> I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.
> Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use case. How 
> will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?
> 
> Greetings Peter
> 
> Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Hello Daniel, I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is OK 
> with you :) Couple notes: 1) We need good name for this new room type 2) This 
> custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It would be 
> impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously open ... On 
> Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote: Well, 
> I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be very 
> helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files which have 
> to be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with it. Thanks 
> Stefan Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher: In our case it was a 
> custom roomtype developed for us. I don't know if there is interest in making 
> this a standard roomtype (in addition to the three already in existence) or 
> if you'd have to have a developer create it for you. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 
> 10:34 AM,  wrote: I was unaware that someone had 
> created a room
type for the "pods" above. Where would one find such an example, as that would 
fit the needs of some I know. *From:* Daniel Ascher 
[mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM 
*To:* Openmeetings user-list  *Subject:* Re: Get 
in challenge with the flash audio setup Hi all. I agree with everyone that 
there is an issue with how difficult it is for a new user to navigate the audio 
and video setup the first time. I believe it is best to give them a separate 
link to settings before their first meeting, as Maxim mentioned, such as: 
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings [1] But it would be 
great to have some improvements in this area if possible so it's easier to use. 
Also, by the way, we have a custom roomtype with space for the video pods at 
the top. See screenshot below. I think this is a good solution for some of you. 
Cheers. Dan On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Peter Dähn  wrote: I 
don't
like that idea with tha additional board... in case one's szenario is with 
video, whiteboard and chat this will not work... maybe the idea with the 
video-panel.. I think we already discussed this... but I can not remember the 
outcome... ;-) Hotkey to minimize all videos would be good. A button somewhere 
would be better... something like that... Greetings Peter Am 05.06.2018 um 
13:02 schrieb Stefan Kühl: Nice! But this won't help me out. I don't need the 
Chat area, too. All I need ist enough space for the whiteboard, also an small 
displays. ;-) The idea with an additional "board" as a register (you know what 
I mean?) seems to be a helpful solution. WDYT Am 05.06.2018 12:49, schrieb 
Peter Dähn: joop... ;-) let it so!!! otherwise I need to "fix" it with 
custom.css... ;-) Am 05.06.2018 um 12:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: On Tue, Jun 
5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn  wrote: Hi there, by now we 
handle it that way: Not needed videos will be moved under the chat area... This
is how "bug" can be turned into "feature" :))) We also provide a "rules"-sheet 
as "Welcome Page" on the whiteboard. "Click here to..." "look there to..." 
"wait till the sessions starts..." this works quite good... Greetings Peter Am 
05.06.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: Special "Video" area (or 
multimedia area) might be good option But this will occupy all the place  
and it will be impossible to free some space only turn off Video of everyone 
 On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND)  
 wrote: For space specific, I have a suggestion: We 
can create a parent space (Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras as 
thumbnail in that space which can be display or hide or minimize somewhere on 
screen by as button click (Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key. 
-Original Message- From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com 
] Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM To:
Openmeetings user-list  
 Subject: Re: Get in challenge with the flash 
audio setup TIP: Actually you can use URL like this 
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings [1] to set up 
everything _before_ meeting ... Will create bullet list to organize questions 
:)) 1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other 
components were ported to HTML5 2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful 
feature: i.e. I wouldn't like to have my table reorganized by someone else  
3) Yep

Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-06 Thread Peter Dähn

I think it would be good to have that additional room-type.
Conference, presentation and interview are named because of its use 
case. How will the new type be used? Could it called webinar?


Greetings Peter

Am 06.06.2018 um 09:05 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello Daniel,

I can add your custom room to open-source version if it is OK with you :)

Couple notes:
1) We need good name for this new room type
2) This custom room type has 2 additional tabs: Chat and Whiteboards. It
would be impossible to have Chat, User list and Whiteboard simultaneously
open ...

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:


Well, I think it is possible for me to create it by myself. It would be
very helpful if someone can provide me the necessary changes and files
which have to be updatet. Looks great for me and I think we can deal with
it.

Thanks
Stefan




Am 05.06.2018 18:14, schrieb Daniel Ascher:

In our case it was a custom roomtype developed for us. I don't know if
there is interest in making this a standard roomtype (in addition to the
three already in existence) or if you'd have to have a developer create it
for you.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:34 AM,  wrote:


I was unaware that someone had created a room type for the "pods" above.



Where would one find such an example, as that would fit the needs of some
I know.





*From:* Daniel Ascher [mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:37 AM

*To:* Openmeetings user-list 
*Subject:* Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup





Hi all. I agree with everyone that there is an issue with how difficult
it is for a new user to navigate the audio and video setup the first time.
I believe it is best to give them a separate link to settings before their
first meeting, as Maxim mentioned, such as:
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings



But it would be great to have some improvements in this area if possible
so it's easier to use. Also, by the way, we have a custom roomtype with
space for the video pods at the top. See screenshot below. I think this is
a good solution for some of you.  Cheers. Dan







On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Peter Dähn  wrote:

I don't like that idea with tha additional board...

in case one's szenario is with video, whiteboard and chat this will not
work...

maybe the idea with the video-panel.. I think we already discussed
this... but I can not remember the outcome... ;-)

Hotkey to minimize all videos would be good. A button somewhere would be
better... something like that...



Greetings Peter



Am 05.06.2018 um 13:02 schrieb Stefan Kühl:

Nice! But this won't help me out. I don't need the Chat area, too. All I
need ist enough space for the whiteboard, also an small displays. ;-)

The idea with an additional "board" as a register (you know what I mean?)
seems to be a helpful solution.

WDYT





Am 05.06.2018 12:49, schrieb Peter Dähn:

joop... ;-) let it so!!! otherwise I need to "fix" it with custom.css...
;-)

Am 05.06.2018 um 12:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:





On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn  wrote:

Hi there,

by now we handle it that way:

Not needed videos will be moved under the chat area...



This is how "bug" can be turned into "feature" :)))






We also provide a "rules"-sheet as "Welcome Page" on the whiteboard.

"Click here to..." "look there to..." "wait till the sessions starts..."
this works quite good...

Greetings Peter



Am 05.06.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be good option

But this will occupy all the place 

and it will be impossible to free some space

only turn off Video of everyone 



On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND)  
 wrote:

For space specific, I have a suggestion:

We can create a parent space (Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras as 
thumbnail in that space which can be display or hide or minimize somewhere on 
screen by as button click (Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key.





-Original Message-

From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com ]

Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM

To: Openmeetings user-list  


Subject: Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup



TIP: Actually you can use URL like this

https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings to set up 
everything _before_ meeting ...



Will create bullet list to organize questions :))

1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other components 
were ported to HTML5

2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't like to 
have my table reorganized by someone else 

3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP integration 
(unfortunately not very stable :(( )

4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is being 
translated by the c

Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Peter Dähn

I don't like that idea with tha additional board...

in case one's szenario is with video, whiteboard and chat this will not 
work...


maybe the idea with the video-panel.. I think we already discussed 
this... but I can not remember the outcome... ;-)


Hotkey to minimize all videos would be good. A button somewhere would be 
better... something like that...




Greetings Peter

Am 05.06.2018 um 13:02 schrieb Stefan Kühl:


Nice! But this won't help me out. I don't need the Chat area, too. All 
I need ist enough space for the whiteboard, also an small displays. ;-)


The idea with an additional "board" as a register (you know what I 
mean?) seems to be a helpful solution.


WDYT

Am 05.06.2018 12:49, schrieb Peter Dähn:

joop... ;-) let it so!!! otherwise I need to "fix" it with 
custom.css... ;-)



Am 05.06.2018 um 12:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:



On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn <mailto:da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:


Hi there,

by now we handle it that way:

Not needed videos will be moved under the chat area...

This is how "bug" can be turned into "feature" :)))




We also provide a "rules"-sheet as "Welcome Page" on the whiteboard.

"Click here to..." "look there to..." "wait till the sessions
starts..." this works quite good...

Greetings Peter

Am 05.06.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be good option
But this will occupy all the place 
and it will be impossible to free some space
only turn off Video of everyone 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND) 
<mailto:ami...@mind-infotech.com>  wrote:

For space specific, I have a suggestion:
We can create a parent space (Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras 
as thumbnail in that space which can be display or hide or minimize somewhere 
on screen by as button click (Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key.


-Original Message-
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM
    To: Openmeetings user-list
<mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

TIP: Actually you can use URL like this
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings  to set up 
everything _before_ meeting ...

Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other 
components were ported to HTML5
2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't like 
to have my table reorganized by someone else 
3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP 
integration (unfortunately not very stable :(( )
4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is being 
translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see how this can be 
improved :)

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl 
<mailto:ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>  wrote:

Hi Maxim,

ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to
confirm by entering the room a second time?

minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the moderator pushes the key
(or an additional command) to minimize all windows from all the
participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner under
the list of participants?

To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by
the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that
he forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean.

By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings
just give me a yell ;-)

Greetz Stefan





Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello Stefan,

"allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
only required once, can be improved in 5.0 

According to minimize by default
I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize
all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows Current
"re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
WDYT?

[1]http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl 
<mailto:ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>  wrote:

Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and
collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge
was the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he
has to fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the
audio source - allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and
again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for those who
are not familiar with IT or com

Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Stefan Kühl
 

Nice! But this won't help me out. I don't need the Chat area, too. All I
need ist enough space for the whiteboard, also an small displays. ;-) 

The idea with an additional "board" as a register (you know what I
mean?) seems to be a helpful solution. 

WDYT 

Am 05.06.2018 12:49, schrieb Peter Dähn: 

> joop... ;-) let it so!!! otherwise I need to "fix" it with custom.css... ;-)
> 
> Am 05.06.2018 um 12:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> by now we handle it that way:
> 
> Not needed videos will be moved under the chat area... 
> 
> This is how "bug" can be turned into "feature" :))) 
> 
> We also provide a "rules"-sheet as "Welcome Page" on the whiteboard.
> 
> "Click here to..." "look there to..." "wait till the sessions starts..." this 
> works quite good...
> 
> Greetings Peter 
> 
> Am 05.06.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: 
> 
> Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be good option
> But this will occupy all the place 
> and it will be impossible to free some space
> only turn off Video of everyone 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND)  
> wrote:
> 
> For space specific, I have a suggestion:
> We can create a parent space (Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras as 
> thumbnail in that space which can be display or hide or minimize somewhere on 
> screen by as button click (Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM
> To: Openmeetings user-list 
> Subject: Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup
> 
> TIP: Actually you can use URL like this
> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings [1] to set up 
> everything _before_ meeting ...
> 
> Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
> 1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other components 
> were ported to HTML5
> 2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't like to 
> have my table reorganized by someone else 
> 3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP integration 
> (unfortunately not very stable :(( )
> 4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is being 
> translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see how this can 
> be improved :)
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> 
> Hi Maxim,
> 
> ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to
> confirm by entering the room a second time?
> 
> minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the moderator pushes the key
> (or an additional command) to minimize all windows from all the
> participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner under
> the list of participants?
> 
> To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by
> the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that
> he forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean.
> 
> By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings
> just give me a yell ;-)
> 
> Greetz Stefan
> 
> Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> 
> Hello Stefan,
> 
> "allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
> only required once, can be improved in 5.0 
> 
> According to minimize by default
> I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize
> all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows Current
> "re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
> WDYT?
> 
> [1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html [2]
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> 
> Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and
> collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge
> was the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he
> has to fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the
> audio source - allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and
> again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for those who
> are not familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only way?
> Additional task would be the size of the video pods (also shown in
> audio only). Is ist possible to resize and minimize them by default?
> Some of the participants are still using small displays with lower
> resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there are two ore
> three v

Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Peter Dähn

joop... ;-) let it so!!! otherwise I need to "fix" it with custom.css... ;-)


Am 05.06.2018 um 12:46 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:



On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn <mailto:da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:


Hi there,

by now we handle it that way:

Not needed videos will be moved under the chat area...


This is how "bug" can be turned into "feature" :)))




We also provide a "rules"-sheet as "Welcome Page" on the whiteboard.

"Click here to..." "look there to..." "wait till the sessions
starts..." this works quite good...

Greetings Peter

Am 05.06.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be good option
But this will occupy all the place 
and it will be impossible to free some space
only turn off Video of everyone 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND) 
<mailto:ami...@mind-infotech.com>  wrote:

For space specific, I have a suggestion:
We can create a parent space (Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras 
as thumbnail in that space which can be display or hide or minimize somewhere 
on screen by as button click (Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key.


-Original Message-
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM
To: Openmeetings user-list 
<mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

TIP: Actually you can use URL like this
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings
<https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings>  to set up 
everything _before_ meeting ...

Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other 
components were ported to HTML5
2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't like 
to have my table reorganized by someone else 
3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP 
integration (unfortunately not very stable :(( )
4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is being 
translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see how this can be 
improved :)

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl 
<mailto:ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>  wrote:

Hi Maxim,

ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to
confirm by entering the room a second time?

minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the moderator pushes the key
(or an additional command) to minimize all windows from all the
participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner under
the list of participants?

To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by
the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that
he forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean.

By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings
just give me a yell ;-)

Greetz Stefan





Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello Stefan,

"allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
only required once, can be improved in 5.0 

According to minimize by default
I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize
all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows Current
"re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
WDYT?

[1]http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html
<http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html>

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl 
<mailto:ste...@quatrekuehl.eu>  wrote:

Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and
collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge
was the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he
has to fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the
audio source - allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and
again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for those who
are not familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only way?
Additional task would be the size of the video pods (also shown in
audio only). Is ist possible to resize and minimize them by default?
Some of the participants are still using small displays with lower
resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there are two ore
three video pods shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a solution in 
mind? Thanks Stefan!

--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax



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Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Peter Dähn  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> by now we handle it that way:
>
> Not needed videos will be moved under the chat area...
>

This is how "bug" can be turned into "feature" :)))


>
>
>
> We also provide a "rules"-sheet as "Welcome Page" on the whiteboard.
>
> "Click here to..." "look there to..." "wait till the sessions starts..."
> this works quite good...
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 05.06.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be good option
> But this will occupy all the place 
> and it will be impossible to free some space
> only turn off Video of everyone 
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND)  
>  wrote:
>
> For space specific, I have a suggestion:
> We can create a parent space (Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras as 
> thumbnail in that space which can be display or hide or minimize somewhere on 
> screen by as button click (Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key.
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com ]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM
> To: Openmeetings user-list  
> 
> Subject: Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup
>
> TIP: Actually you can use URL like 
> thishttps://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings to set up 
> everything _before_ meeting ...
>
> Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
> 1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other components 
> were ported to HTML5
> 2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't like to 
> have my table reorganized by someone else 
> 3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP integration 
> (unfortunately not very stable :(( )
> 4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is being 
> translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see how this can 
> be improved :)
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl  
>  wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to
> confirm by entering the room a second time?
>
> minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the moderator pushes the key
> (or an additional command) to minimize all windows from all the
> participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner under
> the list of participants?
>
> To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by
> the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that
> he forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean.
>
> By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings
> just give me a yell ;-)
>
> Greetz Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Stefan,
>
> "allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
> only required once, can be improved in 5.0 
>
> According to minimize by default
> I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize
> all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows Current
> "re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
> WDYT?
>
> [1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl  
>  wrote:
>
> Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and
> collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge
> was the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he
> has to fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the
> audio source - allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and
> again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for those who
> are not familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only way?
> Additional task would be the size of the video pods (also shown in
> audio only). Is ist possible to resize and minimize them by default?
> Some of the participants are still using small displays with lower
> resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there are two ore
> three video pods shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a solution in 
> mind? Thanks Stefan!
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
> 
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Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Peter Dähn

Hi there,

by now we handle it that way:

Not needed videos will be moved under the chat area...



We also provide a "rules"-sheet as "Welcome Page" on the whiteboard.

"Click here to..." "look there to..." "wait till the sessions starts..." 
this works quite good...


Greetings Peter

Am 05.06.2018 um 12:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be good option
But this will occupy all the place 
and it will be impossible to free some space
only turn off Video of everyone 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND)  wrote:

For space specific, I have a suggestion:
We can create a parent space (Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras as 
thumbnail in that space which can be display or hide or minimize somewhere on 
screen by as button click (Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key.


-Original Message-
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM
To: Openmeetings user-list 
Subject: Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

TIP: Actually you can use URL like this
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings to set up 
everything _before_ meeting ...

Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other components 
were ported to HTML5
2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't like to 
have my table reorganized by someone else 
3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP integration 
(unfortunately not very stable :(( )
4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is being 
translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see how this can be 
improved :)

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:

Hi Maxim,

ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to
confirm by entering the room a second time?

minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the moderator pushes the key
(or an additional command) to minimize all windows from all the
participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner under
the list of participants?

To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by
the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that
he forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean.

By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings
just give me a yell ;-)

Greetz Stefan





Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello Stefan,

"allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
only required once, can be improved in 5.0 

According to minimize by default
I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize
all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows Current
"re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
WDYT?

[1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:

Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and
collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge
was the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he
has to fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the
audio source - allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and
again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for those who
are not familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only way?
Additional task would be the size of the video pods (also shown in
audio only). Is ist possible to resize and minimize them by default?
Some of the participants are still using small displays with lower
resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there are two ore
three video pods shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a solution in mind? 
Thanks Stefan!



--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax



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Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Stefan Kühl
 

Hmmaybe as some kind of a register? 

Something like Whiteboard, Whiteboard1, Whiteboard2, Videoboard? 

Am 05.06.2018 12:26, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: 

> Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be good option
> But this will occupy all the place 
> and it will be impossible to free some space
> only turn off Video of everyone 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND)  
> wrote:
> For space specific, I have a suggestion: We can create a parent space (Say a 
> DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras as thumbnail in that space which can be 
> display or hide or minimize somewhere on screen by as button click (Show/Hide 
> user cam) as well as by using hot key. -Original Message- From: Maxim 
> Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM 
> To: Openmeetings user-list  Subject: Re: Get in 
> challenge with the flash audio setup TIP: Actually you can use URL like this 
> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings [1] to set up 
> everything _before_ meeting ... Will create bullet list to organize questions 
> :)) 1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other 
> components were ported to HTML5 2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful 
> feature: i.e. I wouldn't like to have my table reorganized by someone else 
>  3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP
integration (unfortunately not very stable :(( ) 4) We are always looking for 
improved translations :) German one is being translated by the community, 
please send updated XML if you see how this can be improved :) On Tue, Jun 5, 
2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote: Hi Maxim, ok, to 
get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to confirm by 
entering the room a second time? minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the 
moderator pushes the key (or an additional command) to minimize all windows 
from all the participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner 
under the list of participants? To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one 
participants who call me by the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all 
we find out that he forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean. 
By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings just 
give me a yell ;-) Greetz Stefan Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim
Solodovnik: Hello Stefan, "allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash 
- save setup " Is only required once, can be improved in 5.0  According to 
minimize by default I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1 
[2]] (minimize all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows Current 
"re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows  WDYT? [1] 
http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html [2] On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, 
Stefan Kühl  wrote: Hi @all, yesterday i've got the 
first meeting with up to 10 people and collect some kind of feedback. As I 
figured out, the biggest challenge was the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime 
a user enter the room he has to fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - 
choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and 
again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for those who are not 
familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only way? Additional task
would be the size of the video pods (also shown in audio only). Is ist possible 
to resize and minimize them by default? Some of the participants are still 
using small displays with lower resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if 
there are two ore three video pods shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a 
solution in mind? Thanks Stefan! -- WBR Maxim aka solomax 
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Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
Special "Video" area (or multimedia area) might be good option
But this will occupy all the place 
and it will be impossible to free some space
only turn off Video of everyone 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, K, Amit (MIND)  wrote:
> For space specific, I have a suggestion:
> We can create a parent space (Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras as 
> thumbnail in that space which can be display or hide or minimize somewhere on 
> screen by as button click (Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM
> To: Openmeetings user-list 
> Subject: Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup
>
> TIP: Actually you can use URL like this
> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings to set up 
> everything _before_ meeting ...
>
> Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
> 1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other components 
> were ported to HTML5
> 2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't like to 
> have my table reorganized by someone else 
> 3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP integration 
> (unfortunately not very stable :(( )
> 4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is being 
> translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see how this can 
> be improved :)
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to
>> confirm by entering the room a second time?
>>
>> minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the moderator pushes the key
>> (or an additional command) to minimize all windows from all the
>> participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner under
>> the list of participants?
>>
>> To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by
>> the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that
>> he forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean.
>>
>> By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings
>> just give me a yell ;-)
>>
>> Greetz Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Stefan,
>>
>> "allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
>> only required once, can be improved in 5.0 
>>
>> According to minimize by default
>> I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize
>> all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows Current
>> "re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
>> WDYT?
>>
>> [1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
>>
>> Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and
>> collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge
>> was the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he
>> has to fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the
>> audio source - allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and
>> again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for those who
>> are not familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only way?
>> Additional task would be the size of the video pods (also shown in
>> audio only). Is ist possible to resize and minimize them by default?
>> Some of the participants are still using small displays with lower
>> resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there are two ore
>> three video pods shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a solution in 
>> mind? Thanks Stefan!
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
> 
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Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
This is the goal for 5.0
Hopefully will have time for this 

BTW Could you please file JIRA as soon as will agree on how this
should implemented?

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> Perfect!
>
> One last short question concerning this: Will Audio and Video also be ported
> to html5?
>
> This would help to make things like that easier ;-)
>
> Greetings Stefan
>
>
>
> Am 05.06.2018 11:59, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> TIP: Actually you can use URL like this
> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings to set up
> everything _before_ meeting ...
>
> Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
> 1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other
> components were ported to HTML5
> 2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't
> like to have my table reorganized by someone else 
> 3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP
> integration (unfortunately not very stable :(( )
> 4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is
> being translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see
> how this can be improved :)
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim, ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need
> to confirm by entering the room a second time? minimize: Great Idea! Is it
> possible that the moderator pushes the key (or an additional command) to
> minimize all windows from all the participants and put them in the (let us
> say) lower left corner under the list of participants? To get you in line:
> Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by the phone, because he
> cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that he forgotten to plug in his
> headset ;-) You know what I mean. By the way -> if you need help in
> translation (german) in Openmeetings just give me a yell ;-) Greetz Stefan
> Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: Hello Stefan, "allow flash -
> choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is only required once,
> can be improved in 5.0  According to minimize by default I guess this
> can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize all) which will
> minimize and re-arrange all windows Current "re-arrange" hot key can restore
> minimized windows  WDYT? [1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and
> collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge was
> the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he has to
> fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the audio source -
> allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and again choose micro and
> allow flash). This seems weird for those who are not familiar with IT or
> computers so far. Is this the only way? Additional task would be the size of
> the video pods (also shown in audio only). Is ist possible to resize and
> minimize them by default? Some of the participants are still using small
> displays with lower resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there
> are two ore three video pods shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a
> solution in mind? Thanks Stefan!



-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax


RE: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread K, Amit (MIND)
For space specific, I have a suggestion:
We can create a parent space (Say a DIV as dialogue) and open all cameras as 
thumbnail in that space which can be display or hide or minimize somewhere on 
screen by as button click (Show/Hide user cam) as well as by using hot key.


-Original Message-
From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:29 PM
To: Openmeetings user-list 
Subject: Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

TIP: Actually you can use URL like this
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings to set up 
everything _before_ meeting ...

Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other components 
were ported to HTML5
2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't like to 
have my table reorganized by someone else 
3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP integration 
(unfortunately not very stable :(( )
4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is being 
translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see how this can be 
improved :)

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to
> confirm by entering the room a second time?
>
> minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the moderator pushes the key
> (or an additional command) to minimize all windows from all the
> participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner under
> the list of participants?
>
> To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by
> the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that
> he forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean.
>
> By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings
> just give me a yell ;-)
>
> Greetz Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Stefan,
>
> "allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
> only required once, can be improved in 5.0 
>
> According to minimize by default
> I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize
> all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows Current
> "re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
> WDYT?
>
> [1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
>
> Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and
> collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge
> was the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he
> has to fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the
> audio source - allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and
> again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for those who
> are not familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only way?
> Additional task would be the size of the video pods (also shown in
> audio only). Is ist possible to resize and minimize them by default?
> Some of the participants are still using small displays with lower
> resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there are two ore
> three video pods shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a solution in 
> mind? Thanks Stefan!



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WBR
Maxim aka solomax



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Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Stefan Kühl
 

Perfect! 

One last short question concerning this: Will Audio and Video also be
ported to html5? 

This would help to make things like that easier ;-) 

Greetings Stefan 

Am 05.06.2018 11:59, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: 

> TIP: Actually you can use URL like this
> https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings [2] to set up
> everything _before_ meeting ...
> 
> Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
> 1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other
> components were ported to HTML5
> 2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't
> like to have my table reorganized by someone else 
> 3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP
> integration (unfortunately not very stable :(( )
> 4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is
> being translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see
> how this can be improved :)
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Maxim, ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need 
>> to confirm by entering the room a second time? minimize: Great Idea! Is it 
>> possible that the moderator pushes the key (or an additional command) to 
>> minimize all windows from all the participants and put them in the (let us 
>> say) lower left corner under the list of participants? To get you in line: 
>> Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by the phone, because he 
>> cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that he forgotten to plug in his 
>> headset ;-) You know what I mean. By the way -> if you need help in 
>> translation (german) in Openmeetings just give me a yell ;-) Greetz Stefan 
>> Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: Hello Stefan, "allow flash - 
>> choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is only required once, 
>> can be improved in 5.0  According to minimize by default I guess this 
>> can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1 [1]] (minimize all) which will 
>> minimize and re-arrange all
windows Current "re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows  WDYT? 
[1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html [1] On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 
PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote: Hi @all, yesterday i've got the 
first meeting with up to 10 people and collect some kind of feedback. As I 
figured out, the biggest challenge was the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime 
a user enter the room he has to fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - 
choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and 
again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for those who are not 
familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only way? Additional task 
would be the size of the video pods (also shown in audio only). Is ist possible 
to resize and minimize them by default? Some of the participants are still 
using small displays with lower resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if 
there are two ore three video pods shown up, there nothing
more to see. Maybe a solution in mind? Thanks Stefan!
 

Links:
--
[1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html
[2] https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings


Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
TIP: Actually you can use URL like this
https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/hash?swf=settings to set up
everything _before_ meeting ...

Will create bullet list to organize questions :))
1) Flash permission is required for Audio and Video only all other
components were ported to HTML5
2) "Minimize by Admin" might be too powerful feature: i.e. I wouldn't
like to have my table reorganized by someone else 
3) Yep :) for those who have their headset unplugged we have SIP
integration (unfortunately not very stable :(( )
4) We are always looking for improved translations :) German one is
being translated by the community, please send updated XML if you see
how this can be improved :)

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> Hi Maxim,
>
> ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to confirm
> by entering the room a second time?
>
> minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the moderator pushes the key (or
> an additional command) to minimize all windows from all the participants and
> put them in the (let us say) lower left corner under the list of
> participants?
>
> To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by the
> phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that he
> forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean.
>
> By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings just
> give me a yell ;-)
>
> Greetz Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Stefan,
>
> "allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
> only required once, can be improved in 5.0 
>
> According to minimize by default
> I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize
> all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows
> Current "re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
> WDYT?
>
> [1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
>
> Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and
> collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge was
> the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he has to
> fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the audio source -
> allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and again choose micro and
> allow flash). This seems weird for those who are not familiar with IT or
> computers so far. Is this the only way? Additional task would be the size of
> the video pods (also shown in audio only). Is ist possible to resize and
> minimize them by default? Some of the participants are still using small
> displays with lower resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there
> are two ore three video pods shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a
> solution in mind? Thanks Stefan!



-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax


Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Stefan Kühl
 

Hi Maxim, 

ok, to get the point -> it is only the "micro on" where they need to
confirm by entering the room a second time? 

minimize: Great Idea! Is it possible that the moderator pushes the key
(or an additional command) to minimize all windows from all the
participants and put them in the (let us say) lower left corner under
the list of participants? 

To get you in line: Yesterday i've got one participants who call me by
the phone, because he cannot hear anyone! After all we find out that he
forgotten to plug in his headset ;-) You know what I mean. 

By the way -> if you need help in translation (german) in Openmeetings
just give me a yell ;-) 

Greetz Stefan 

Am 05.06.2018 11:33, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: 

> Hello Stefan,
> 
> "allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
> only required once, can be improved in 5.0 
> 
> According to minimize by default
> I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1 [1]] (minimize
> all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows
> Current "re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
> WDYT?
> 
> [1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html [1]
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> 
>> Hi @all, yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and 
>> collect some kind of feedback. As I figured out, the biggest challenge was 
>> the flash-setup for the audio. Everytime a user enter the room he has to 
>> fullfil the complete setup order (allow flash - choose the audio source - 
>> allow flash - save setup and go back to room - and again choose micro and 
>> allow flash). This seems weird for those who are not familiar with IT or 
>> computers so far. Is this the only way? Additional task would be the size of 
>> the video pods (also shown in audio only). Is ist possible to resize and 
>> minimize them by default? Some of the participants are still using small 
>> displays with lower resolution (19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there 
>> are two ore three video pods shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a 
>> solution in mind? Thanks Stefan!
 

Links:
--
[1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html


Re: Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Maxim Solodovnik
Hello Stefan,

"allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup " Is
only required once, can be improved in 5.0 

According to minimize by default
I guess this can be solved by adding additional Hot key [1] (minimize
all) which will minimize and re-arrange all windows
Current "re-arrange" hot key can restore minimized windows 
WDYT?

[1] http://openmeetings.apache.org/HotKeys.html

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Stefan Kühl  wrote:
> Hi @all,
>
> yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and collect some
> kind of feedback.
>
> As I figured out, the biggest challenge was the flash-setup for the audio.
> Everytime a user enter the room he has to fullfil the complete setup order
> (allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save setup and go
> back to room - and again choose micro and allow flash). This seems weird for
> those who are not familiar with IT or computers so far. Is this the only
> way?
>
> Additional task would be the size of the video pods (also shown in audio
> only). Is ist possible to resize and minimize them by default? Some of the
> participants are still using small displays with lower resolution (19" <-
> sorry, not up to me). So, if there are two ore three video pods shown up,
> there nothing more to see. Maybe a solution in mind?
>
>
>
> Thanks Stefan!
>
>
>
>



-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax


Get in challenge with the flash audio setup

2018-06-05 Thread Stefan Kühl
 

Hi @all, 

yesterday i've got the first meeting with up to 10 people and collect
some kind of feedback. 

As I figured out, the biggest challenge was the flash-setup for the
audio. Everytime a user enter the room he has to fullfil the complete
setup order (allow flash - choose the audio source - allow flash - save
setup and go back to room - and again choose micro and allow flash).
This seems weird for those who are not familiar with IT or computers so
far. Is this the only way? 

Additional task would be the size of the video pods (also shown in audio
only). Is ist possible to resize and minimize them by default? Some of
the participants are still using small displays with lower resolution
(19" <- sorry, not up to me). So, if there are two ore three video pods
shown up, there nothing more to see. Maybe a solution in mind? 

Thanks Stefan!