Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
Hi :) I think it depends on how you educate new users. If we continue to be rude demand that new new users obey 1 certain way of doing things before we even consider helping them then i think that is unlikely to enamour people. Perhaps when people ask questions we could just start with the RTFM answer that got linux such a wonderful reputation. At least then they would have something to work with. Regards from Tom :) From: Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 7:37:18 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 04:36:49PM -0800, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: : Is there something wrong with educating new users? Only that it takes some effort, like bottom posting, being courteous, keeping logical threads, posting only what needs to be posted and so on. IOW, too much work for the lazy. So now we're bending over backwards to cater to the lazy? You maybe, not me. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
On 16-02-11 09:38, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it depends on how you educate new users. If we continue to be rude demand that new new users obey 1 certain way of doing things before we even consider helping them then i think that is unlikely to enamour people. Perhaps when people ask questions we could just start with the RTFM answer that got linux such a wonderful reputation. At least then they would have something to work with. Regards from Tom :) We dont need to be rude demanding to new users, But some existing users should actually start reading what other post here, and THINK about what they are saying. Some people may think I dont care what others say But that wil not improve general quality, and readability here. For most people it should not be a problem to obey certain simple 'rules' (guidelines) here. And i know i am not making these guidelines, but i'm only asking some attention for it in this thread. -- Luuk -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll
Hi :) Windows just seems to do things like this occasionally. It might have been triggered by OOo (or LO) but usually this sort of thing 'just happens' or is done by antivirus software. People don't seem to realise how flaky Windows is until they use linux or have had to maintain a lot of machines. Often they think Windows is the most robust and easiest!! One of the advantages of having a dual-boot system (usually with a linux distro such as Ubuntu) is that you can continue using the machine and even use the distro to fix Windows using the 'cheat method' you used. Instead of going to all the trouble of install an operating system alongside Windows (takes a couple of hours) it might be better to start with a small collection of distros on Cds or Usb-sticks that allow a LiveCd session with tools that can help fix typical Windows problems. LiveCd simply means a bootable Cd that gets you into a working desktop session. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD Even if it is really LiveUsb we often still say LiveCd as a more generic term because habits are tough to break. My favourite 3 are 1. Ubuntu = to get a fully functional desktop similar to Xp/Win7 complete with office apps and internet already. This is the one i have as a LiveUsb-stick and i even have it fully installed on a usb-stick for work. The problem with Live sessions is that when you reboot no trace of the session is left on the machine unless you deliberately saved stuff to the hard-drive. Anything saved to the desktop or Documents and bookmarks and history is all forgotten. LiveCds are great for online banking. Download links and other useful stuff can be found from DistroWatch http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu 2. SliTaz = just as a LiveCd. It doesn't have so much functionality out of the box but it is only 30Mb so it downloads fast and often makes a nice Cd even if the cd/dvd-drive appears to have problems. It does have GPartEd, a text-editor, a linux command-line, a very efficient cd/dvd burning tool called something like Gnome Baker, Gnome Office (if you are desperate!) and can install grub2 if Windows boot-loader is broken (or even if it isn't broken yet). The LiveCd session runs entirely from Ram so you can take the Cd out once you see the desktop http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz 3. Trinity Rescue Kit = the only one of my 3 favourites that is really exclusively for fixing Windows problems http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity This one doesn't give a desktop anything like Windows but it does have a nice menu system and is stuffed full of useful apps for fixing things, data-recovery, password reset, partition editor and stacks more. It does have tools that are good for fixing linux systems but Windows breaks more often so that is where it's real value is. There are a LOT of other distros and many have specific advantages (but also disadvantages). Many people prefer Mint, openSUSE, Pardus, Fedora or Mandriva instead of Ubuntu but of these entry level distros Ubuntu is the most famous and appears in the mainstream press. Mint does have more multimedia already set-up. Mandriva looks pretty. Fedora explores new features and programs before other distros so it doesn't always behave but can be interesting. There are a lot of distros aimed at older hardware or smaller systems but SliTaz seems to cover the widest range of newer hardware while it's focus is on older systems. Knoppix covers a good range but mostly newer hardware and it's a LOT larger. Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0 has a nice tutorial in its installer so it can be a good one to try first to learn how to dual-boot and has very addictive retro space-invaders game. Again it is a lot larger. Generally tiny distros like Puppy and TinyCore have a very different way of working but skills or programs learned with sliTaz or AntiX are useful elsewhere or if you already know Ubuntu's (or another's) command-line then sliTaz is about the same. Also it's desktop is quite pretty. Instead of Trinity many people prefer distros such as SystemRescue, Parted Magic, Gparted (an entire distro built around the program) or Knoppix but i tend to find all their tools and more are on the Trinity Cd. So, i find Trinity is better when i need to go out to fix someone's machine. It's not as famous and doesn't even appear in the top 100 at DistroWatch's front page http://distrowatch.com/ but despite that it has reasonable forums. So if i go out then 2 Cds and 1 usb-stick covers most of my options for using or fixing Windows machines but if i can only take 1 then i would take my Ubuntu usb-stick (not the LiveUsb one unless i wanted to install Ubuntu). Having these things ready in advance is nice but they can always be made from another machine, which is where sliTaz is really useful. Regards from Tom :) From: Cliff Scott
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing downloaded LO and removing downloaded OO
Hi :) Yes, they do usually co-exist quite well but IF you start running into strange small problems THEN un-install one of them. Mostly it is only when OOo has it's QuickLauncher active as this sometimes prevents LO from opening properly. There might be other issues but they are rare enough that we haven't been able to pinpoint them yet. Data and files don't get destroyed or corrupted so don't worry. Regards from Tom :) From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 0:42:50 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing downloaded LO and removing downloaded OO On 02/15/2011 10:13 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Ubuntu 10.04 I downloaded and installed OO 3.3 direct from OO because I need the integration with Thunderbird addressbook (the Ubuntu-supplied OO doesn't have that). I now want to replace that version of OO with LO. I can do the install of LO but I can't find the syntax to uninstall OO first... Unless you are pressed for disk space why not just keep it so that you can compare if you wish? LO (from libreoffice.org) and OOo (from openoffice.org) will happily coexist as they are both installed in the /opt folders. If not, just use synaptic. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
Tom Davies wrote (16-02-11 09:38) I think it depends on how you educate new users. Indeed. Showing them how handy correct quoting and replying is. Nearly all people can understand that. Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
Hi :) Sadly we have to deal with the world as it is rather than the way we would like it to be. Far more people use the wonderful MicroSoft products such as Outlook than use all the alternatives added together. Please can we try to be less unfriendly to people that are new in here? Top posters (first timers asking questions) need to be responded to at the top of the thread. Otherwise they might assume there was no answer in the reply. Part of that response can be to ask them to bottom-post and check the ends of posts but there needs to be something that is directly useful to them in that response. At the moment we often have responses that only appears to criticise the person and leaves nothing to help them. That is a waste of their time which is not ideal if we are trying to attract people. Most people will only have time to have a quick glance at an email, to triage, before deciding whether to deal with it now or leave it to later (often = delete). The first thing that most people see is the top of the email and almost all our responses fall into the leave to later or delete straight-away category. If we want people to see us as unhelpful and unfriendly then bottom-posting is fine. We have to be able to deal with people in the manner they are accustomed to. At the moment we behave like stereotypical English tourists shouting loudly at people in MicroSoft-land and then shouting louder if they don't understand. Yes, they don't do thing 'our way'. Obviously 'our way' is the only 'right way' but that doesn't necessarily mean we don't want to help them. Or does it? Regards from Tom :) From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 15 February, 2011 23:47:06 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting Le 15/02/2011 18:38, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) Bottom, Almost every office user i know (at least the few that use email) posts at the top of mails and leaves the previous posts dangling downwards along with any signatures. Some corporate users get all the previous thread deleted off the bottom and a disclaimer added to the bottom. So, at best they stick with the defaults, the easiest thing. I do know how badly office workers use mail, just because of some $µ%@ OutlookExpress misbehaviour. The question is how much we want to alienate first-time users and office users? Who is more important to please, 'geeks' or potential new users? Bottom quoting (hey, we've got a big furry troll) is the natural way of reading texts and answering questions: Question 1 Answer 1 Question 2 Answer 2 and so on. So no question (pun intended): bottom is the way to go :) -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic
Yes, that does work. But I was looking for a solution that didn't involve manually downloading, unpackaging, etc... In theory, adding the PPA options would not only install the current version but also allow updates when available. What puzzles me is that unless Hit means something different, most of the folders and files are there, except for Packages.gz Am I correct? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Installing-LibreOffice-under-Ubuntu-9-10-aka-Karmic-tp2507198p2509040.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to select a small image placed on a large image?
Hi :) Two possibilities spring to mind but i'm not sure how valid they are. 1. I think the layer of the images can be 'moved' forwards and back so. If the larger image gets selected then find the Graphics/frames toolbar. At the end is an anchor but just before that are 2 icons for moving the frame backwards and forwards. Move the larger image to the back and then it should be easy to select the smaller image. After doing whatever modifications you required then you might need to move the smaller image further back. 2. If you think the smaller image might be a png or gif (very common good formats) then try clicking on a part of the smaller image that is coloured differently from the image behind it. This is the easiest thing to try but least likely imo. 3. Are there really 2 separate images? Could it be 1 single image with an extra layer embedded in the image? Can you try opening the image in Gimp or PhotoShop or something like that? Gimp is free and OpenSource but again i think this is unlikely to be the right answer. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Jacob Valdez thaitext2engl...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 13:31:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to select a small image placed on a large image? XP SP3 LibreOffice 3.30 App: Writer I have read WriterGuideOOo.pdf, looked through the LO wiki and the OOo forums--what is the trick to select a small image which has been placed on top of a larger image? I point at the small image and click on it so I can re-position, re-size, or whatever, but the larger image behind the one I want to select is always selected instead of the foreground image. I am doing this in Writer. There is a convenient one-click way to do this, isn't there? Jacob. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
On 16-02-11 14:51, TVCSF Chair wrote: I could not agree more. I have been using OOo and Thunderbird for several years now and try to get the people I work around to use free rather than MS software. It is a really hard uphill struggle. But I would say that I always have my comments at the top of e-mails as that is the way I prefer to set up Thunderbird. Some people obviously prefer to have comments at the bottom, good on them, it would be a very boring world if we all liked the same things. This text is off-topic :'( Steve This e-mail together with any attachments, is confidential. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone. Please then delete it from your computer without making any copies or disclosing it to any other person. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. The text of this mail is also archived 'for ever', therefore it is of no use to put a disclaimer like this under this message. Quoot from: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ Please remember: everything you post to our public mailing lists, including your e-mail address and any other personal information contained in your message, will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. So, please do post wisely -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
W dniu 11-02-16 14:51, TVCSF Chair pisze: Some people obviously prefer to have comments at the bottom, good on them, it would be a very boring world if we all liked the same things. But everyone read texts from top to bottom. From primary school to last days. Specjally with latin letters, but I am sure with oriental letters too. Get any book, paper, banner, message, etc, whatever-you-want - always from top to bottom. Even comix. Very borring? Give me the only one sample, where read is jumping down-up-down-up-down-... from one part of text to other! -- Mieszko Kaczmarczyk Administrator IT Wetzel Sp. z o.o. Duchnów, ul. Kresowa 8 05-462 Wiązowna Phone: +48 (0) 22 780-20-00 ext.219 Direct: +48 (0) 22 780-20-19 Mobile: +48 (0) 795 061 783 Fax:+48 (0) 22 780-20-03 Kapitał zakładowy: 600.000,00 zł. Sąd Rejonowy dla M.ST. Warszawy w Warszawie, XXI Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego NIP: 951-00-43-131 Regon: 010799082 KRS: 058229 Zarząd Spółki: Ewa Dzwonkowska- Prezes Zarządu, Detlev Liebschwager- Członek Zarządu, Martin Siebold- Członek Zarządu /Save a tree - only print this message if it's absolutely necessary! / -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll
On 16-02-11 14:43, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:32:15 +0100 On 16-02-11 04:23, Cliff Scott wrote: I just ran into a scary situation. I already had LO 3.3 installed on a Win2K system and working great. That system also had OOo 3.2.1 installed and working. I upgraded the OOo to 3.3 to compare OOo LO and after that neither one would start. It was complaining about the file MSVCR90.DLL missing. I searched the entire system drive and it .. A better place to install this file from is: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326922 Becausel all other missing dependecy's of that file will also be re-installed. Luuk, Thanks for the link. I must be blind. I find a discussion of it, but no link from which to download the file(s). Can you point me to it? -- Cliff oops, sorry, wrong link But when i try to find the correct one, i end up at: http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate Which is the link to download windows updates... O:-) :-[ :-\ But after some searching google reveald the correct link: :-) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=A5C84275-3B97-4AB7-A40D-3802B2AF5FC2displaylang=en it was found when searching for: Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86) -- Luuk -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to select a small image placed on a large image?
Hi Jacob, Jacob Valdez wrote (16-02-11 14:31) what is the trick to select a small image which has been placed on top of a larger image? I am doing this in Writer. If the larger image is selected, hit Tab (or Shft-Tab) to select 'the next' (previous) image, which might well be the smaller one. Another possibility: use the Navigator (F5, menu View|Navigator) Kind regards, cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll
Hi :) Lol, i didn't mean you have to try them all. That's why i gave summary info and background so that you can choose to try 1 sometime. SliTaz would be the fastest to try but Ubuntu is more useful for general use. Trinity is only useful as a rescue, recovery or fix-it Cd and is rarely needed. Regards from Tom :) From: Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 13:27:58 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:56:28 + (GMT) Hi Tom, Thanks for all the useful suggestions. I'll look into them. Cliff Hi :) Windows just seems to do things like this occasionally. It might have been triggered by OOo (or LO) but usually this sort of thing 'just happens' or is done by antivirus software. People don't seem to realise how flaky Windows is until they use linux or have had to maintain a lot of machines. Often they think Windows is the most robust and easiest!! One of the advantages of having a dual-boot system (usually with a linux distro such as Ubuntu) is that you can continue using the machine and even use the distro to fix Windows using the 'cheat method' you used. Instead of going to all the trouble of install an operating system alongside Windows (takes a couple of hours) it might be better to start with a small collection of distros on Cds or Usb-sticks that allow a LiveCd session with tools that can help fix typical Windows problems. LiveCd simply means a bootable Cd that gets you into a working desktop session. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD Even if it is really LiveUsb we often still say LiveCd as a more generic term because habits are tough to break. My favourite 3 are 1. Ubuntu = to get a fully functional desktop similar to Xp/Win7 complete with office apps and internet already. This is the one i have as a LiveUsb-stick and i even have it fully installed on a usb-stick for work. The problem with Live sessions is that when you reboot no trace of the session is left on the machine unless you deliberately saved stuff to the hard-drive. Anything saved to the desktop or Documents and bookmarks and history is all forgotten. LiveCds are great for online banking. Download links and other useful stuff can be found from DistroWatch http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu 2. SliTaz = just as a LiveCd. It doesn't have so much functionality out of the box but it is only 30Mb so it downloads fast and often makes a nice Cd even if the cd/dvd-drive appears to have problems. It does have GPartEd, a text-editor, a linux command-line, a very efficient cd/dvd burning tool called something like Gnome Baker, Gnome Office (if you are desperate!) and can install grub2 if Windows boot-loader is broken (or even if it isn't broken yet). The LiveCd session runs entirely from Ram so you can take the Cd out once you see the desktop http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz 3. Trinity Rescue Kit = the only one of my 3 favourites that is really exclusively for fixing Windows problems http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity This one doesn't give a desktop anything like Windows but it does have a nice menu system and is stuffed full of useful apps for fixing things, data-recovery, password reset, partition editor and stacks more. It does have tools that are good for fixing linux systems but Windows breaks more often so that is where it's real value is. There are a LOT of other distros and many have specific advantages (but also disadvantages). Many people prefer Mint, openSUSE, Pardus, Fedora or Mandriva instead of Ubuntu but of these entry level distros Ubuntu is the most famous and appears in the mainstream press. Mint does have more multimedia already set-up. Mandriva looks pretty. Fedora explores new features and programs before other distros so it doesn't always behave but can be interesting. There are a lot of distros aimed at older hardware or smaller systems but SliTaz seems to cover the widest range of newer hardware while it's focus is on older systems. Knoppix covers a good range but mostly newer hardware and it's a LOT larger. Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0 has a nice tutorial in its installer so it can be a good one to try first to learn how to dual-boot and has very addictive retro space-invaders game. Again it is a lot larger. Generally tiny distros like Puppy and TinyCore have a very different way of working but skills or programs learned with sliTaz or AntiX are useful elsewhere or if you already know Ubuntu's (or another's) command-line then sliTaz is about the same. Also it's desktop is quite pretty. Instead of Trinity many people prefer distros such as SystemRescue, Parted Magic,
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
Hello Dave, Le 16/02/2011 12:44, Tom Davies a écrit : Sadly we have to deal with the world as it is rather than the way we would like it to be. Sure. Does this mean we won't try to educate them? Far more people use the wonderful MicroSoft products such as Outlook than use all the alternatives added together. Indeed. Please can we try to be less unfriendly to people that are new in here? Am I? Sorry if my message seemed like that, because it was not the intend. Top posters (first timers asking questions) need to be responded to at the top of the thread. Otherwise they might assume there was no answer in the reply. If you read this very message, you can see that I've edited it in many pieces that are very likely to be noticed. I guess ;) So, top- or bottom-posting is just a part of the mail-user-education: editing the original message to get to the point is also very important. The sender must think he has to be read, and understood (otherwise what's the point at posting at all?). So eliminating the useless parts -- which are available upper in the thread anyway -- is a requirement. The first thing that most people see is the top of the email and almost all our responses fall into the leave to later or delete straight-away category. This is what message editing is all about. Yes, they don't do thing 'our way'. Obviously 'our way' is the only 'right way' but that doesn't necessarily mean we don't want to help them. Or does it? No, of course. This is my point: bottom-posting + editing and, from time to time explaining. I don't think I ever ignored any message just because it was top-answered. Cheers, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] First impressions of LibreOffice 3.3.1 RC1 (Debian amd64 squeeze):
On 2011-02-12 10:11 PM, Alan Shore wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Luiz Oliveira wrote: Icons are beautiful even as said Florian on twitter. I installed it on the stable version and the update was automatic. All the extensions have been preserved and an icon LibreOffice was installed on the Gnome panel. So far had no problems. I'll continue testing. ICON is beautiful，I agree! I completely and totally disagree, at least for Windows XP... 1. The Quickstarter icon is just a plain/blank white, with a tiny arrow or something in the top right corner 2. The document icons did not change, they are the old ones I had to manually fix up when Openoffice 3.2.1 removed the colorized icons... So, how can I *easily* (ie, please don't tell me I have to go in and change each one manually *again*) cause LibO to implement the new icons? The installer should really take care of this - or at least provide an option, the same way it does for file associations... Hmmm I just realized... I always do the 'custom' install... might that be the problem? -- Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open pps as ppt
On 2011-02-14 11:33 AM, plino wrote: There is indeed a bug (or at least a different behaviour from MS Office and OOo) with .pps files If a user double clicks or opens with a pps file with MS Powerpoint or LO Impress it is supposed to autostart the presentation. However if you open Powerpoint and use File Open to open the pps file it does so in Edit mode. OOo Impress does the same LO Impress does not. Opening a pps file immediately enters presentation mode and pressing Esc to stop, exits LO Impress. Did you try 'Open with', then choosing 'LibreOffice 3.3' instead of 'LibreOffice Impress'? That should open it in edit mode (does for me)... It is arguable to say that this is a bug. But it is not the expected behaviour. agreed... -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
On 2011-02-15 12:38 PM, Tom Davies wrote: The question is how much we want to alienate first-time users and office users? Who is more important to please, 'geeks' or potential new users? You don't have to alienate them... just some gentle prodding in the beginning is enough for most people, explaining that it is the style of the LibO lists to bottom/in-line post, with a link to the 'Learn2Quote' page posted earlier... What really irks me are the jerks who simply refuse to abide by a lists general guidelines... and they can get away with it here because no one will ban them for refusing to comply. -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
On 2011-02-16 8:51 AM, TVCSF Chair wrote: I could not agree more. I have been using OOo and Thunderbird for several years now and try to get the people I work around to use free rather than MS software. It is a really hard uphill struggle. But I would say that I always have my comments at the top of e-mails as that is the way I prefer to set up Thunderbird. Some people obviously prefer to have comments at the bottom, good on them, it would be a very boring world if we all liked the same things. But what you seem to be missing is that different email LISTS have different GUIDELINES... the guidelines for these lists is to bottom-post... So, when you and others refuse to abide by the guidelines, you are essentially telling everyone that you are better than them, and/or are just too damn lazy to adjust your behavior - ie, 'When in Rome...' Oh, and as to your 'disclaimer' - be advised that I have forwarded your email on to a few of the gossips I know who are now forwarding on to many others and posting it on porn websites... feel free to sue me... -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: activated quickstarter on ubuntu
On 02/15/2011 11:43 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:50 AM, jcg jc...@free.fr wrote: Hi, When the quickstarter of libreOffice is activated it prevents the shutdown of ubuntu. this is also true for ooo and it's a well known reported bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/562027)!! That link went nowhere for me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/562027 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] How to select a small image placed on a large image?
On 16/2/2011 22:13, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Jacob, Jacob Valdez wrote (16-02-11 14:31) what is the trick to select a small image which has been placed on top of a larger image? I am doing this in Writer. If the larger image is selected, hit Tab (or Shft-Tab) to select 'the next' (previous) image, which might well be the smaller one. Another possibility: use the Navigator (F5, menu View|Navigator) Kind regards, cor Thanks, that's the kind of info I was looking for. I will give that a try later today. Jacob. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic
On 02/15/2011 11:46 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:07 PM, plino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm an advanced Windows user but absolute Linux newbie. Not uncommmon. : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found I'm guessing that you don't have that ppa installed, and I'm not sure if it is available via ppa on Karmic. It's 404 because there is no karmic version in the PPA: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa I doubt there will be either as karmic reaches EOL in April: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases Try downloading and installing from the documentfoundation.org - that works nicely. That would be my recommendation as well. @plino: installation instructions are here: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/ http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/ [Installation of LibreOffice on Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux systems] -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] First impressions of LibreOffice 3.3.1 RC1 (Debian amd64 squeeze):
On 2011-02-16 3:05 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-12 10:11 PM, Alan Shore wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Luiz Oliveira wrote: Icons are beautiful even as said Florian on twitter. I installed it on the stable version and the update was automatic. All the extensions have been preserved and an icon LibreOffice was installed on the Gnome panel. So far had no problems. I'll continue testing. ICON is beautiful，I agree! I completely and totally disagree, at least for Windows XP... 1. The Quickstarter icon is just a plain/blank white, with a tiny arrow or something in the top right corner 2. The document icons did not change, they are the old ones I had to manually fix up when Openoffice 3.2.1 removed the colorized icons... Ok, this is weird... I left my desk for an hour or so, and when I came back the icons had changed... I guess Explorer needed a refresh or something... But... the Quickstarter is still just plain white - how can I change it? -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] First impressions of LibreOffice 3.3.1 RC1 (Debian amd64 squeeze):
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2011-02-16 3:05 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-12 10:11 PM, Alan Shore wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Luiz Oliveira wrote: Icons are beautiful even as said Florian on twitter. I installed it on the stable version and the update was automatic. All the extensions have been preserved and an icon LibreOffice was installed on the Gnome panel. So far had no problems. I'll continue testing. ICON is beautiful，I agree! I completely and totally disagree, at least for Windows XP... 1. The Quickstarter icon is just a plain/blank white, with a tiny arrow or something in the top right corner 2. The document icons did not change, they are the old ones I had to manually fix up when Openoffice 3.2.1 removed the colorized icons... Ok, this is weird... I left my desk for an hour or so, and when I came back the icons had changed... I guess Explorer needed a refresh or something... But... the Quickstarter is still just plain white - how can I change it? You're arguing apples vs. oranges here - the subject is First impressions of LibreOffice 3.3.1 RC1 (Debian amd64 squeeze) and you are running Windows. That said, I don't know if you can change the notification tray icons at all. Look at the properties of the application and see if there is an icon change option. I don't remember ever seeing one, but I miss things, too. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Open pps as ppt
I did try and the result is the same (starts Slideshow). In any case even if that did work it would be a workaround, not the expected action ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Open-pps-as-ppt-tp2457168p2513898.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: top- or bottom- quoting
On 02/15/2011 07:13 AM, Luuk wrote: Hi, When replying to a message on this list, What is the best method when talking abot quoting? Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of the story. ... Bottom posting (with appropriate snipping/intersperse etc) would be my choice. I doubt that there will be any general agreement until mailing list guidelines are posted available on both the list and the website. My recommendation would be to use the Ubuntu page as a guideline template modified for LO/TDF: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists [starting from 'Mailing list etiquette'] With proper guidelines in place, it is then easy (and polite) to point new list subscribers to those guideline and ask that they abide by them. If all else fails: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html [Netiquette Guidelines] works for me. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:28:03 + (GMT) Tom, I didn't mean I would try them all, just consider what would be the best for me. Thanks. Cliff Hi :) Lol, i didn't mean you have to try them all. That's why i gave summary info and background so that you can choose to try 1 sometime. SliTaz would be the fastest to try but Ubuntu is more useful for general use. Trinity is only useful as a rescue, recovery or fix-it Cd and is rarely needed. Regards from Tom :) From: Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 13:27:58 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:56:28 + (GMT) Hi Tom, Thanks for all the useful suggestions. I'll look into them. Cliff Hi :) Windows just seems to do things like this occasionally. It might have been triggered by OOo (or LO) but usually this sort of thing 'just happens' or is done by antivirus software. People don't seem to realise how flaky Windows is until they use linux or have had to maintain a lot of machines. Often they think Windows is the most robust and easiest!! One of the advantages of having a dual-boot system (usually with a linux distro such as Ubuntu) is that you can continue using the machine and even use the distro to fix Windows using the 'cheat method' you used. Instead of going to all the trouble of install an operating system alongside Windows (takes a couple of hours) it might be better to start with a small collection of distros on Cds or Usb-sticks that allow a LiveCd session with tools that can help fix typical Windows problems. LiveCd simply means a bootable Cd that gets you into a working desktop session. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD Even if it is really LiveUsb we often still say LiveCd as a more generic term because habits are tough to break. My favourite 3 are 1. Ubuntu = to get a fully functional desktop similar to Xp/Win7 complete with office apps and internet already. This is the one i have as a LiveUsb-stick and i even have it fully installed on a usb-stick for work. The problem with Live sessions is that when you reboot no trace of the session is left on the machine unless you deliberately saved stuff to the hard-drive. Anything saved to the desktop or Documents and bookmarks and history is all forgotten. LiveCds are great for online banking. Download links and other useful stuff can be found from DistroWatch http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu 2. SliTaz = just as a LiveCd. It doesn't have so much functionality out of the box but it is only 30Mb so it downloads fast and often makes a nice Cd even if the cd/dvd-drive appears to have problems. It does have GPartEd, a text-editor, a linux command-line, a very efficient cd/dvd burning tool called something like Gnome Baker, Gnome Office (if you are desperate!) and can install grub2 if Windows boot-loader is broken (or even if it isn't broken yet). The LiveCd session runs entirely from Ram so you can take the Cd out once you see the desktop http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slitaz 3. Trinity Rescue Kit = the only one of my 3 favourites that is really exclusively for fixing Windows problems http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=trinity This one doesn't give a desktop anything like Windows but it does have a nice menu system and is stuffed full of useful apps for fixing things, data-recovery, password reset, partition editor and stacks more. It does have tools that are good for fixing linux systems but Windows breaks more often so that is where it's real value is. There are a LOT of other distros and many have specific advantages (but also disadvantages). Many people prefer Mint, openSUSE, Pardus, Fedora or Mandriva instead of Ubuntu but of these entry level distros Ubuntu is the most famous and appears in the mainstream press. Mint does have more multimedia already set-up. Mandriva looks pretty. Fedora explores new features and programs before other distros so it doesn't always behave but can be interesting. There are a lot of distros aimed at older hardware or smaller systems but SliTaz seems to cover the widest range of newer hardware while it's focus is on older systems. Knoppix covers a good range but mostly newer hardware and it's a LOT larger. Wolvix Hunter 1.1.0 has a nice tutorial in its installer so it can be a good one to try first to learn how to dual-boot and has very addictive retro space-invaders game. Again it is a lot larger.
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc print dialogue in Greek has fewer options
I can confirm this problem. It is very annoying. Please fix it ASAP. Thanks in advance, George -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:28:03 + (GMT) Really? You had to repost the entire conversation, which is already preserved indelibly in the archive? A little context is fine (and a good idea), but *not* the whole conversation. Please. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic
I tired a PPA several times with Ubuntu 9.x and 10.04. It failed have the time I tried to install anything via PPA. So I do not use it. I think we need to make sure that the people who are Linux users have clear options fir installing via PPA and through the standard web site download and terminal install. It is only a few lines to install via the terminal, so for me it is easier than setting up a PPA install. I still use a PDF file to remind me what the commands are, but it does not change except the [file] name of the version to be installed. On 02/16/2011 04:58 PM, NoOp wrote: On 02/15/2011 11:46 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:07 PM, plinopedl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm an advanced Windows user but absolute Linux newbie. Not uncommmon. : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found I'm guessing that you don't have that ppa installed, and I'm not sure if it is available via ppa on Karmic. It's 404 because there is no karmic version in the PPA: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa I doubt there will be either as karmic reaches EOL in April: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases Try downloading and installing from the documentfoundation.org - that works nicely. That would be my recommendation as well. @plino: installation instructions are here: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/ http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/ [Installation of LibreOffice on Debian/Ubuntu-based Linux systems] -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] FEATURE REQUEST: CALC -- Repeating a Table Header on a New Page
Hi, Writer has the ability so define a number of rows at the top of a table that will repeat if the table extends over the page. http://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Repeating_a_Table_Header_on_a_New_Page This sort of functionality would be great in Calc. At present it is necessary to manually manipulate the sheet to put a header at the top of each page. Even if the process is not dynamic as for writer. It would be good if a tool could be created that automatically moved the headers to the right spot (~ automatic cut and paste based on page size). Assuming a square table a designated number of rows at the top of the table could be tagged as header rows by the user. These could then be propagated down the matrix and inserted at the top of where the current page break occurs. These duplicate headers are also marked as headers but also that they are duplicates. If the page size changes and the tool run again the duplicate headers are removed and the process repeated. This sort of routine would save considerable time manipulating quite sizable tables that can extend over many pages. -- Cheers Simon Simon Cropper Principal Consultant Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:29:17PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) No, i wasn't saying that anyone was deliberately unfriendly but i think we need to have better ways of dealing with top-posters because we often give an appearance of rudeness. Check this site: http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html especially the part about curt answers. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll
** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:12:07 +0100 On 16-02-11 14:43, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:32:15 +0100 On 16-02-11 04:23, Cliff Scott wrote: I just ran into a scary situation. I already had LO 3.3 installed on a Win2K system and working great. That system also had OOo 3.2.1 installed and working. I upgraded the OOo to 3.3 to compare OOo LO and after that neither one would start. It was complaining about the file MSVCR90.DLL missing. I searched the entire system drive and it .. A better place to install this file from is: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326922 Becausel all other missing dependecy's of that file will also be re-installed. Luuk, Thanks for the link. I must be blind. I find a discussion of it, but no link from which to download the file(s). Can you point me to it? -- Cliff oops, sorry, wrong link But when i try to find the correct one, i end up at: http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate Which is the link to download windows updates... O:-) :-[ :-\ But after some searching google reveald the correct link: :-) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=A5C84275-3B97-4AB7-A40D-3802B2AF5FC2displaylang=en it was found when searching for: Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86) Thanks Luuk. Got it. I suppose I should install it even if everything seems ok just in case some other files got deleted at the same time. -- Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: Check this site: http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html especially the part about curt answers. I have often practiced exactly that sort of discussion - but usually on the technical users' lists. If we want people to use LibreOffice, it might be a good idea not to push them away just because they're idiots - er, no, I mean new to this kind of discussion format. Yeah, that's the ticket - this isn't Usenet, after all -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Hardly any movement on the OOo version of this list
Well I have been seeing less and less emails on the OOo users email list since LibreOffice 3.3 came out. I use to see 30, 40, and even 50 emails per day coming from that list to my email account. Now it is very much less. Today there were less than 10 for the last 24 hour period. I hope that means that more and more of the OOo users are moving to become LibreOffice users. I have never seen it so low over at OOo's users list and never so much over here at LO's user's list. I really would like to know how many downloads the web site had since ver. 3.3 came out last month. There should be some stats from the hosting server that shows how many times the install files were looked at [i.e. downloaded] since then. I know that I had something like that with my hosted domains. It would be nice to know and be able to tell people at the Expos and Events how many downloads were done before the Linux distros got involved to mess up the stats. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic
On 02/16/2011 08:49 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote:
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:32 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
I tired a PPA several times with Ubuntu 9.x and 10.04. It failed have the
time
I tried to install anything via PPA. So I do not use it.
Gary already explained that - it isn't there.
I think we need to make sure that the people who are Linux users have
clear options fir installing via PPA and through the standard web site
download and terminal install. It is only a few lines to install via the
terminal, so for me it is easier than setting up a PPA install.
A shell script would be better, like the update script that comes with it
I still use a PDF file to remind me what the commands are, but it does
not change except the [file] name of the version to be installed.
As I said, a shell script would be better, and really simple:
#!/bin/bash
if [[ -z $1 ]]; then
echo Usage: `basename $0`install-tarball
exit 1
fi
tgz=$1
if [[ ! -f $tgz ]]; then# try adding the .tar.gz suffices...
tgz=${tgz}.tar.gz
if [[ ! -f $tgz ]]; then
echo $tgz does not appear to be a gzipped tarball - please
check the file and try again.
exit 1
fi
fi
tar -xzf $tgz
dir=`basename $tgz .tar.gz`
if [[ ! -d $dir/DEBS ]]; then
echo I can't see a DEBS subdirectory - check your tarball again.
exit 1
fi
cd $dir/DEBS
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
if [[ -d desktop-integration ]]; then
cd desktop-integration
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
fi
echo Done!
echo
You can even use this to install the lang packs and help pack since it
doesn't care what the name of the file is.
I tend to avoid shell scripts.
But the German DVD [snapshot and site] being made links to
the .bin scripts for installing Java's JRE for RPM [but DEB not shown
there].
If I had to do the install on several computers, I most likely would use
a script somewhere in the process, but I never really got into scripts.
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[libreoffice-users] default setup
how can I set Libre as the default program to open power point email messages? dwa...@sasktel.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Hardly any movement on the OOo version of this list
On 2011/02/16 8:02 PM webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Well I have been seeing less and less emails on the OOo users email list since LibreOffice 3.3 came out. I use to see 30, 40, and even 50 emails per day coming from that list to my email account. That is a gross exaggeration. 30 a day = 900 a month. Only one month had that many posts in the last year. 50 posts a day = 1500 a month. The last time there were that many or more posts was Oct 2008. Here are the numbers for the last year. Jan 2011 435 Dec 2010 320 Nov 2010 586 Oct 2010 544 Sep 2010 632 Aug 2010 632 Jul 2010 661 Jun 2010 734 May 2010 615 Apr 2010 472 Mar 2010 706 Feb 2010 879 Jan 2010 1000 Now it is very much less. Today there were less than 10 for the last 24 hour period. Only a little less. I could pick out many days in the past that it had only 10 posts.In Feb 2011 so far there are 213 posts (extrapolates to 383 a month). Feb 1 had 23 posts. Fer 8 had 24 posts. Feb 9 had 38 posts, Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] default setup
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Dwayne Barber dwa...@sasktel.net wrote: how can I set Libre as the default program to open power point email messages? That would depend a lot on what you did not tell us: which OS? What window manager? What email client? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] QUESTION: Base and recognised 'xbase' file formats
Hi, I am trying to find a list of file formats recognised by 'Base'. I have opened Dbase III files with Calc and it allows me to delete fields and edit data OK, without corrupting the file (although it did not retain the code page flag). If I try and open a Visual Foxpro table Calc baulks *as it has always done* and the file is shown in the import CSV Wizard as a scrambled mess. If I use 'Base' I can open both the DbaseIII and VFP tables, without any corruption occurring. This caught me by surprise as a Linux ODBC driver does not exist and to my knowledge there is no 'translator' available. Can someone provide some details regarding this functionality (e.g. what library is being used to access the data)? Is the VFP table manipulation restricted in any way? I note that memo fields don't appear to be editable, although attempts at editing the field results in no corruption of the data. That is, a VFP table opened that has a memo, data inserted in the memo field, then opened again in VFP showed no obvious corruption. -- Cheers Simon Simon Cropper Principal Consultant Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi, I am regularly getting a dialog box stating that one of the LibreOffice Documents I am working on needs to be recovered. This happens despite... 1. The document actually saving and libreoffice closing without any errors. 2. Quite regularly -- 5-10 times a day. I have searched around and only found one error log that has libreoffice mentioned. This is hs_err_pid.log found in my HOME directory. I have provided a link to one of the many log below for interest. I note however that the logs do not appear when the dialog box appears, or should I say prior to the dialog appearing. So... 1. Can someone explain what normally triggers this 'recover a file' dialog to appear (system events or file specific events)? 2. Where in the system is the cause of the 'error' stored (e.g. log, event log, etc)? 3. What does the error log linked[1] to signify? [1] http://www.botanicusaustralia.com.au/Documents/LOJavaErr.log I am using Ubuntu 10.04 LTR, LibreOffice 3.3.0 [OOO330m19 (Build:6) tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.0-1lucid1] -- Cheers Simon Simon Cropper Principal Consultant Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: How to select a small image placed on a large image?
On 16/2/2011 22:52, Tom Davies wrote: Brilliant! That is much more elegant :) Regards from Tom :) From: Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 15:13:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to select a small image placed on a large image? Hi Jacob, Jacob Valdez wrote (16-02-11 14:31) what is the trick to select a small image which has been placed on top of a larger image? I am doing this in Writer. If the larger image is selected, hit Tab (or Shft-Tab) to select 'the next' (previous) image, which might well be the smaller one. Another possibility: use the Navigator (F5, menu View|Navigator) Kind regards, cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** Yes, continued hitting of the tab button when any image is selected will cycle through each image. thanks, that is much quicker than my previous workaround. Jacob. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Le 17/02/11 05:38, Simon Cropper a écrit : Hi Simon, I am regularly getting a dialog box stating that one of the LibreOffice Documents I am working on needs to be recovered. I see you're using JVM 1.6.0_20 (IcedTea), you might want to try updating to Java 1.6.0_22 to see if that resolves the difficulties. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
