[libreoffice-users] Re: Legacy Base reports won't open in LibreOffice 3.5
Thanks for your comments, Alex and others. One thing I didn't say is that
when I edit my original reports in OO, their hidden controls do NOT show a
'Sorting' control listed at all, and yet they run perfectly in OO apparently
without such a control. Since there is ALSO no 'Sorting' control listed when
I edit my legacy reports in LO (yet they FAIL to run), I wonder does this
mean it is NOT an IMPORT problem, as Alex suggests, but rather that a NEW
hidden control ('Sorting') is required in LO (but not in OO)? I note that
when I create a brand-new report in LO v5.2 using the legacy report designer
(with the Report Builder Extension disabled), the hidden control 'Sorting'
IS added, and the report runs as normal! (That's in fact how I discovered
the work-around I reported above.) Before I lodge, as suggested, another Bug
Report (under the Writer component), I'm interested in what others (with
more technical knowledge than I have) think about this. - Fred
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Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary
'S a good idea. Go for it. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs
Incidentally ( or not ) LO gets it right in Windows M _ From: mal [mailto:malc...@interele.demon.co.uk] To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:51:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs On 15/04/12 19:42, Cor Nouws wrote: mal wrote (12-04-12 20:05) On 11/04/12 22:10, Cor Nouws wrote: Where in LibreOffice do you get this? I just go to print a document. File / Print General /Properties The paper tray drop down does not include the bypass tray Also if you go to Device to select the paper in the options there are only 13 paper types listed. This printer has 21 types ( which show up in other applications ) Is that what you meant ? Yes, thanks. (it could have been that you referred to information on the page style, although that is not so logic.) I guess LibreOffice gets its information via the printer driver. And for me that's a terra incognita. Could it be that the bypass is automatically selected once you open it, or fill it? I think that the paper types are not relevant here. That are sort of definitions, referring in the end simply to the existing trays. Regards, Since we lease the printers I have spoken to both the engineers and the training department as I was hoping they could be set that way but these printers needs to be told to use the bypass - it doesn't select it automatically ( like small HP printers which if you put something in the bypass it will take it from there preferentially. ) The paper types don't just refer to the tray to take the paper from. They also tell the printer how fast to feed the paper through the machine. For example thick3 is used for t-shirt printing paper and that has to go through really slowly otherwise the toner doesn't stick. We have a really nasty work around for the t-shirt paper. That is, we put it in tray 3 and set that tray to thick1 ( which LO does show ) which slows the paper a bit. Then we also select 1200 dpi instead of the normal 600 which slows it even more and it works. However this does use up a tray and you can also only get away which doing 2 or 3 pages then you have to put a blank sheet through from a normal tray to clean the rollers. best wishes M -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Legacy Base reports won't open in LibreOffice 3.5
Le 19/04/12 08:01, frofa a écrit :
Hi Fred,
Thanks for your comments, Alex and others. One thing I didn't say is that
when I edit my original reports in OO, their hidden controls do NOT show a
'Sorting' control listed at all, and yet they run perfectly in OO apparently
without such a control. Since there is ALSO no 'Sorting' control listed when
I edit my legacy reports in LO (yet they FAIL to run), I wonder does this
mean it is NOT an IMPORT problem, as Alex suggests, but rather that a NEW
hidden control ('Sorting') is required in LO (but not in OO)? I note that
Ah, interesting :-)) - as far as I know, no new development (as in
addition of new features) has been made to either the ORB or the
original report designer within the LO project, but I haven't checked
the git log for a while to see if there were any commits.
when I create a brand-new report in LO v5.2 using the legacy report designer
(with the Report Builder Extension disabled), the hidden control 'Sorting'
IS added, and the report runs as normal! (That's in fact how I discovered
the work-around I reported above.) Before I lodge, as suggested, another Bug
Report (under the Writer component), I'm interested in what others (with
more technical knowledge than I have) think about this. - Fred
One way to check this would be to do a comparison of the XML making up
the content.xml of the two Writer ODF files. That way, it would be
possible to see the difference between the original and the new. Perhaps
the difference lies in the use of the ODF 1.2 spec which is the default
for 3.5 - my understanding was that ODF 1.2 had some new attributes that
were possibly ignored (silently dropped) in ODF 1.1 ?
Alex
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs
Hallo, I didnt follow the thread up to now. Do you use GNULinux CUPS? no: drop the rest yes: In that case its probably a problem of the .ppd and could be solved by modifying this filet or getting a better one from turboprint.com or a gutenprint driver will do it. Have you switched off CUPS? in my case I could (troubles with a Brother) I could solve the probelm perfectly. Walther Am Donnerstag, 19. April 2012 schrieb Malcolm Moore: Incidentally ( or not ) LO gets it right in Windows M _ From: mal [mailto:malc...@interele.demon.co.uk] To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:51:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs On 15/04/12 19:42, Cor Nouws wrote: mal wrote (12-04-12 20:05) On 11/04/12 22:10, Cor Nouws wrote: Where in LibreOffice do you get this? I just go to print a document. File / Print General /Properties The paper tray drop down does not include the bypass tray Also if you go to Device to select the paper in the options there are only 13 paper types listed. This printer has 21 types ( which show up in other applications ) Is that what you meant ? Yes, thanks. (it could have been that you referred to information on the page style, although that is not so logic.) I guess LibreOffice gets its information via the printer driver. And for me that's a terra incognita. Could it be that the bypass is automatically selected once you open it, or fill it? I think that the paper types are not relevant here. That are sort of definitions, referring in the end simply to the existing trays. Regards, Since we lease the printers I have spoken to both the engineers and the training department as I was hoping they could be set that way but these printers needs to be told to use the bypass - it doesn't select it automatically ( like small HP printers which if you put something in the bypass it will take it from there preferentially. ) The paper types don't just refer to the tray to take the paper from. They also tell the printer how fast to feed the paper through the machine. For example thick3 is used for t-shirt printing paper and that has to go through really slowly otherwise the toner doesn't stick. We have a really nasty work around for the t-shirt paper. That is, we put it in tray 3 and set that tray to thick1 ( which LO does show ) which slows the paper a bit. Then we also select 1200 dpi instead of the normal 600 which slows it even more and it works. However this does use up a tray and you can also only get away which doing 2 or 3 pages then you have to put a blank sheet through from a normal tray to clean the rollers. best wishes M -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Mac OS X 10.4 Check for Updates Glitched
Le 16/04/12 12:36, precutcolo...@mailcan.com a écrit : Hi, Have others seen this oddness? In a previous release, LibreOffice 3.5.1.x, the Mac OS X PPC LibreOffice menu item, Help / Check for Updates..., failed to report 3.5.2.x release that hit on 5 Apr 2012. I had to download and install it by hand. Is the menu checker only for major.minor numbers like 3.4.x.x to 3.5.x.x, not bugfix numbers like 3.5.1.x to 3.5.2.x? Well it worked for me yesterday on OSX 10.6.8 Intel, I was running 3.5.1.x, so your problem appears to be PPC specific. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Mac OS X 10.4 Check for Updates Glitched
Hi everybody, I installed LO on my netbook (OS windows XP). I received the notification for the new release but I was not able to download it automatically. I got an error message impossible to download and install LO version 3.5.2 and a suggestion to download it manually. Can someone give me a hint about the reason why it happened? do I have to modify something maybe in my profile? Thank you in advance for your help Cheers Vittorio 2012/4/19 Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com Le 16/04/12 12:36, precutcolo...@mailcan.com a écrit : Hi, Have others seen this oddness? In a previous release, LibreOffice 3.5.1.x, the Mac OS X PPC LibreOffice menu item, Help / Check for Updates..., failed to report 3.5.2.x release that hit on 5 Apr 2012. I had to download and install it by hand. Is the menu checker only for major.minor numbers like 3.4.x.x to 3.5.x.x, not bugfix numbers like 3.5.1.x to 3.5.2.x? Well it worked for me yesterday on OSX 10.6.8 Intel, I was running 3.5.1.x, so your problem appears to be PPC specific. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Impress - mass photo import - mass slideshow merge
Le 16/04/12 12:30, precutcolo...@mailcan.com a écrit : Hi, 1. Given a folder/selection of jpg pics, can Impress import the whole set as a new slideshow, one pic per slide? Not that I know of, unless you do it programmatically (Python, JS or LOBasic). There might be an extension out there somewhere on the net that lets you do this, but I don't recall having seen one. 2. Given a folder/selection of Impress slideshow files, can Impress or a script merge them into one continuous, mass slideshow? A separator slide may buffer between each merged file. You would need a script for that to merge the XML - even then, you would probably encounter the image saving bug/mess : LO, which inherited its image storing management routines from OOo, stores each image in a ODF file as a pseudo-randomly generated sequence of characters, and then includes a pointer to that in the XML attributes. Your script would have to be able to extract the image from one ODP file, in all likelihood meaning you would have to read the binary stream API to do this, store it in memory, rename it and resave it in the new file - fun, huh ? A shell script may do, but that must vary by OS. Maybe Python? Inside LibreOffice is a Script Provider for Python extension. My users are average folk who need simple click methods. Old OOo extensions are broken in Libre, or not easy for grandma to click-install. They were all that my web searches found, so I ask. Thank you! From what I know, and I don't know everything ;-), you could only do this via a fairly complicated script. You could try using any of the language bindings available for your script, and Python is as good as any other in this respect, but be warned if you want it multi-OS and clickable, it will not be a task for the fainthearted. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
Is it possible to have both Libre Office and Open Office installed at the same time on the same computer? Are there going to be any new updates for Open Office. I read that since Oracle took over they have not been very keen on supporting Open Office. Thanks! Jerry Greenberg -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Error with open ppt
It's different open with windows I'm think your must fix this bug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice losing position between sessions - solved!
Thanks Tom and Jerry, it works like a charm! Cheers Ron On 15/04/12 16:58, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it's an accident rather than a deliberate design choice. Otherwise they would probably have put a tick-box in options somewhere i guess. The work-around works though. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 15/4/12, Libre Userlibreu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Libre Userlibreu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice losing position between sessions To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 15 April, 2012, 5:49 You need to have entered some information in the User Data section under ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeUser Data. Only a first name is sufficient but the form can not be completely blank. Also check the box labeled Enable experimental (unstable) features under ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeGeneral Jerry At 06:45 PM 4/14/2012, you wrote: In openoffice, if I saved a document, when I next opened it, the cursor was automatically positioned where it was when I left off. This doesn't seem to be happening in libreoffice, as the cursor is always at the top of the document, meaning one has to remember some other way where I was up to. I can't find any option to turn this invaluable feature back on. Is this a design decision, an oversight, or am I missing an option somewhere? Cheers, Ron -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Ron House Building Peace: http://peacelegacy.org Australian Birds: http://wingedhearts.org Principle of Goodness academic site: http://principleofgoodness.net -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 00:03 -0400, Jerry Greenberg wrote: Is it possible to have both Libre Office and Open Office installed at the same time on the same computer? Are there going to be any new updates for Open Office. I read that since Oracle took over they have not been very keen on supporting Open Office. Thanks! Jerry Greenberg Yes, and you can have more than one version of LO. Presently I have installed LO 3.4.6 and 3.5.2 besides AOO 3.4.0 which is in Beta testing. One of the few problems that you may have is in the menu (Programs All programs in Windows). --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Problems importing an OO database into LO
Am 19.04.2012 13:00, ptoye wrote: Mark Stanton wrote I think I'm being misunderstood here. I've never mentioned trying to link Base and Word - that's not something I want to do. You do it all the time. All of your input forms are attached to Writer documents. All I originally asked about was an incorrect display of a query in a form. and you received at least two viable solutions although nobody was able to reproduce the problem. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Error with open ppt
Hi, On 04/19/2012 05:49 AM, 邱长明 wrote: It's different open with windows I'm think your must fix this bug What is the specific problem you are having? Also, which version of LO are you using and what is your OS? These will help us try to find a solution. You can post the file on Nabble and the list can try to open it. Normally MSO 2003 formats such as ppt are well behaved. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
Il 19/04/2012 6.03, Jerry Greenberg ha scritto: Is it possible to have both Libre Office and Open Office installed at the same time on the same computer? Are there going to be any new updates for Open Office. I read that since Oracle took over they have not been very keen on supporting Open Office. Thanks! Jerry Greenberg Hi, although it colud be possible, the installation program registers on the registry the same associations. If you have encountered crashes with Libreoffice 3.5.2.2 try using version 3.4.6. I prefer using Libreoffice because it is more efficient and it has a lot of functions that are not included in OpenOffice. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
Jerry, On 04/19/2012 12:03 AM, Jerry Greenberg wrote: Is it possible to have both Libre Office and Open Office installed at the same time on the same computer? Are there going to be any new updates for Open Office. I read that since Oracle took over they have not been very keen on supporting Open Office. Thanks! Jerry Greenberg See the following wiki article for instructions about parallel installations http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel. It should work with parallel installation of OOo and LO. OOo is now in the Apache Incubator stage with the Apache Foundation. I understand Apache plans to fully support OOo but because of Oracle's lack of effort OOo has lost some development time. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs
Hi, The driver came from http://www.openprinting.org/ They claim this printer works 100% and only LO has this problem. All the other apps I have get it right and show all the trays and paper options. I had a look at turboprint and they don't seem to support Ricoh printers. :-( M _ From: Walther Koehler [mailto:w.koeh...@onlinemed.de] To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:44:51 +0100 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs Hallo, I didnt follow the thread up to now. Do you use GNULinux CUPS? no: drop the rest yes: In that case its probably a problem of the .ppd and could be solved by modifying this filet or getting a better one from turboprint.com or a gutenprint driver will do it. Have you switched off CUPS? in my case I could (troubles with a Brother) I could solve the probelm perfectly. Walther Am Donnerstag, 19. April 2012 schrieb Malcolm Moore: Incidentally ( or not ) LO gets it right in Windows M _ From: mal [mailto:malc...@interele.demon.co.uk] To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:51:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs On 15/04/12 19:42, Cor Nouws wrote: mal wrote (12-04-12 20:05) On 11/04/12 22:10, Cor Nouws wrote: Where in LibreOffice do you get this? I just go to print a document. File / Print General /Properties The paper tray drop down does not include the bypass tray Also if you go to Device to select the paper in the options there are only 13 paper types listed. This printer has 21 types ( which show up in other applications ) Is that what you meant ? Yes, thanks. (it could have been that you referred to information on the page style, although that is not so logic.) I guess LibreOffice gets its information via the printer driver. And for me that's a terra incognita. Could it be that the bypass is automatically selected once you open it, or fill it? I think that the paper types are not relevant here. That are sort of definitions, referring in the end simply to the existing trays. Regards, Since we lease the printers I have spoken to both the engineers and the training department as I was hoping they could be set that way but these printers needs to be told to use the bypass - it doesn't select it automatically ( like small HP printers which if you put something in the bypass it will take it from there preferentially. ) The paper types don't just refer to the tray to take the paper from. They also tell the printer how fast to feed the paper through the machine. For example thick3 is used for t-shirt printing paper and that has to go through really slowly otherwise the toner doesn't stick. We have a really nasty work around for the t-shirt paper. That is, we put it in tray 3 and set that tray to thick1 ( which LO does show ) which slows the paper a bit. Then we also select 1200 dpi instead of the normal 600 which slows it even more and it works. However this does use up a tray and you can also only get away which doing 2 or 3 pages then you have to put a blank sheet through from a normal tray to clean the rollers. best wishes M -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:34:39 +0200, R.S. rosario.scars...@libero.it wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...: Il 19/04/2012 6.03, Jerry Greenberg ha scritto: Is it possible to have both Libre Office and Open Office installed at the same time on the same computer? Are there going to be any new updates for Open Office. I read that since Oracle took over they have not been very keen on supporting Open Office. Hi, although it colud be possible, the installation program registers on the registry the same associations. If you have encountered crashes with Libreoffice 3.5.2.2 try using version 3.4.6. I prefer using Libreoffice because it is more efficient and it has a lot of functions that are not included in OpenOffice. You can probably avoid any such conflicts by using a portable version of LO from here: http://portableapps.com/news/2012-04-16_-_libreoffice_portable_3.5.2_released for more info, see this: http://portableapps.com/support/libreoffice_portable -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Base 3.5.2.2 hangs
Alex, I have filed a bug report on Monday. Best regards Charles -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Base-3-5-2-2-hangs-tp3910280p3922970.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
I really do not think having LO and AOO on the same computer works properly for most users. LO is well beyond what AOO is at, and LO people have cleaned out so much of the old/bad/outdated code that it would be a real catch-up act for AOO to give you the same features and such that LO have given us since mid-3.3.x line. I use 3.4.6, but will got to 3.5.x when it get some of its issues fixed that are specific for my needs. Yes, you can have LO and AOO installed on the same computer. No, you cannot run both at the same time. No, it is not something that works well for most users. Yes, it is your choice to try. On 04/19/2012 08:49 AM, Caesar wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:34:39 +0200, R.S. rosario.scars...@libero.it wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...: Il 19/04/2012 6.03, Jerry Greenberg ha scritto: Is it possible to have both Libre Office and Open Office installed at the same time on the same computer? Are there going to be any new updates for Open Office. I read that since Oracle took over they have not been very keen on supporting Open Office. Hi, although it colud be possible, the installation program registers on the registry the same associations. If you have encountered crashes with Libreoffice 3.5.2.2 try using version 3.4.6. I prefer using Libreoffice because it is more efficient and it has a lot of functions that are not included in OpenOffice. You can probably avoid any such conflicts by using a portable version of LO from here: http://portableapps.com/news/2012-04-16_-_libreoffice_portable_3.5.2_released for more info, see this: http://portableapps.com/support/libreoffice_portable -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs
I use CUPS-PDF for non-LO PDF printing. Most of my printers have CUPS based drivers installed as their Linux default. As for dialogs working properly, well duplexing works on an HP laser, while it will not on an Epson inkjet, within LO. I use Linux mostly, but I have to compared side by side the dialogs between my Linux desktop and my Vista Laptop. It could be LO, or it could be your flavor of Linux and its repository drivers. You never know unless you take the same printers with different version of Linux on the same computer. Or take LO on Linux vs LO on Windows. If it works for one system and not the other, then it is not LO. If the same issue is across OSs, then it is LO. On 04/19/2012 03:44 AM, Walther Koehler wrote: Hallo, I didnt follow the thread up to now. Do you use GNULinux CUPS? no: drop the rest yes: In that case its probably a problem of the .ppd and could be solved by modifying this filet or getting a better one from turboprint.com or a gutenprint driver will do it. Have you switched off CUPS? in my case I could (troubles with a Brother) I could solve the probelm perfectly. Walther Am Donnerstag, 19. April 2012 schrieb Malcolm Moore: Incidentally ( or not ) LO gets it right in Windows M _ From: mal [mailto:malc...@interele.demon.co.uk] To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:51:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs On 15/04/12 19:42, Cor Nouws wrote: mal wrote (12-04-12 20:05) On 11/04/12 22:10, Cor Nouws wrote: Where in LibreOffice do you get this? I just go to print a document. File / Print General /Properties The paper tray drop down does not include the bypass tray Also if you go to Device to select the paper in the options there are only 13 paper types listed. This printer has 21 types ( which show up in other applications ) Is that what you meant ? Yes, thanks. (it could have been that you referred to information on the page style, although that is not so logic.) I guess LibreOffice gets its information via the printer driver. And for me that's a terra incognita. Could it be that the bypass is automatically selected once you open it, or fill it? I think that the paper types are not relevant here. That are sort of definitions, referring in the end simply to the existing trays. Regards, Since we lease the printers I have spoken to both the engineers and the training department as I was hoping they could be set that way but these printers needs to be told to use the bypass - it doesn't select it automatically ( like small HP printers which if you put something in the bypass it will take it from there preferentially. ) The paper types don't just refer to the tray to take the paper from. They also tell the printer how fast to feed the paper through the machine. For example thick3 is used for t-shirt printing paper and that has to go through really slowly otherwise the toner doesn't stick. We have a really nasty work around for the t-shirt paper. That is, we put it in tray 3 and set that tray to thick1 ( which LO does show ) which slows the paper a bit. Then we also select 1200 dpi instead of the normal 600 which slows it even more and it works. However this does use up a tray and you can also only get away which doing 2 or 3 pages then you have to put a blank sheet through from a normal tray to clean the rollers. best wishes M -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary
On 2012-04-19 2:56 AM, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk wrote: 'S a good idea. Go for it. who are you talking to, and *what* is a good idea? Replying without quoting *anything* to maintain context is just as dumb as if not dumber than blindly quoting everything... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice losing position between sessions - solved!
Actually, Tom, it is probably so that different positions can be saved for different users who may be editing the same file (no way to tell different users apart if they haven't personalized it)... On 2012-04-19 7:21 AM, Ron House rho...@smartchat.net.au wrote: Thanks Tom and Jerry, it works like a charm! Cheers Ron On 15/04/12 16:58, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it's an accident rather than a deliberate design choice. Otherwise they would probably have put a tick-box in options somewhere i guess. The work-around works though. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 15/4/12, Libre Userlibreu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Libre Userlibreu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice losing position between sessions To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 15 April, 2012, 5:49 You need to have entered some information in the User Data section under ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeUser Data. Only a first name is sufficient but the form can not be completely blank. Also check the box labeled Enable experimental (unstable) features under ToolsOptionsLibreOfficeGeneral Jerry At 06:45 PM 4/14/2012, you wrote: In openoffice, if I saved a document, when I next opened it, the cursor was automatically positioned where it was when I left off. This doesn't seem to be happening in libreoffice, as the cursor is always at the top of the document, meaning one has to remember some other way where I was up to. I can't find any option to turn this invaluable feature back on. Is this a design decision, an oversight, or am I missing an option somewhere? Cheers, Ron -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/19/2012 10:18 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I really do not think having LO and AOO on the same computer works properly for most users. [snip] Yes, you can have LO and AOO installed on the same computer. No, you cannot run both at the same time. No, it is not something that works well for most users. I disagree with this. Well, in part. I have OOo 3.1, LibO 3.4 (the Calc filter bug makes 3.5 unusable for me), and IBM Lotus Symphony all installed on the same computer and I've had all three running at once, and never encountered any problems. (Why did I have all three running at once? Well, basically, to see if I would encounter any problems!) LO is well beyond what AOO is at, and LO people have cleaned out so much of the old/bad/outdated code that it would be a real catch-up act for AOO to give you the same features and such that LO have given us since mid-3.3.x line. I use 3.4.6, but will got to 3.5.x when it get some of its issues fixed that are specific for my needs. This I agree with whole-heartedly! - -- Steven Shelton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+QJewACgkQXUonIzCvpdNeZACcDVWziWtHpnB1Q0CmGvJ7ZalI o2QAoKMHGKa6vUsqghH5ZnMclRuR3Jnq =EuvU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
Hi, I thought after the fork of LibreOffice Oracle gave the source code of OpenOffice to the Apache Foundation. IBM donated the source code of their OpenOffice fork called Lotus Symphony also to the Apache Foundation. If I've read everything correctly the Apache Foundation has a special policy called the Incubation this is a period of time during which amongst lots of other things the new project is kept under quarantine for patent issues and to see whether the project is viable. I thought this period of time is practically over and a new release of OpenOffice can be expected during the second half of this year. I have OpenOffice installed on my laptop and I have LibreOffice as a portable app on an external hard drive in case I need it. I prefer OpenOffice because, although it lacks some features available in LibreOffice which I don't use that often, it is much stabler and thus more of use in a production environment. Of course this is my personal impression, things can be different for someone else. Best regards, John Bijnens On 19/04/2012 16:18, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I really do not think having LO and AOO on the same computer works properly for most users. LO is well beyond what AOO is at, and LO people have cleaned out so much of the old/bad/outdated code that it would be a real catch-up act for AOO to give you the same features and such that LO have given us since mid-3.3.x line. I use 3.4.6, but will got to 3.5.x when it get some of its issues fixed that are specific for my needs. Yes, you can have LO and AOO installed on the same computer. No, you cannot run both at the same time. No, it is not something that works well for most users. Yes, it is your choice to try. On 04/19/2012 08:49 AM, Caesar wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:34:39 +0200, R.S. rosario.scars...@libero.it wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...: Il 19/04/2012 6.03, Jerry Greenberg ha scritto: Is it possible to have both Libre Office and Open Office installed at the same time on the same computer? Are there going to be any new updates for Open Office. I read that since Oracle took over they have not been very keen on supporting Open Office. Hi, although it colud be possible, the installation program registers on the registry the same associations. If you have encountered crashes with Libreoffice 3.5.2.2 try using version 3.4.6. I prefer using Libreoffice because it is more efficient and it has a lot of functions that are not included in OpenOffice. You can probably avoid any such conflicts by using a portable version of LO from here: http://portableapps.com/news/2012-04-16_-_libreoffice_portable_3.5.2_released for more info, see this: http://portableapps.com/support/libreoffice_portable -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Problems importing an OO database into LO
Andreas Säger wrote Am 19.04.2012 13:00, ptoye wrote: I think I'm being misunderstood here. I've never mentioned trying to link Base and Word - that's not something I want to do. You do it all the time. All of your input forms are attached to Writer documents. All I originally asked about was an incorrect display of a query in a form. and you received at least two viable solutions although nobody was able to reproduce the problem. One of the solutions was my own: to continue using OO (which at the moment I am, but is not exactly a solution to the technical problem). The other was your workaround. No-one here said they couldn't reproduce it as far as I can see, though of course it may be true. I'd be willing to upload the database here if anyone would like to try it out on their system. It might be a configuration issue, though I can't quite see how. After the short discussion about the technical problem I had, this thread turned into a discussion of the relationship between LO and OO, and of the shortcomings (or otherwise) of Base, about which I am not qualified to comment. - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Problems-importing-an-OO-database-into-LO-tp3890826p3923242.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary
Replying without quoting *anything* to maintain context is just as dumb as if not dumber than blindly quoting everything... Sorry, having a proper email client that links replies correctly, I forget that not everybody has that. I was replying to Paul D. Mirowsky's point (offer to develop?) about Intermediate free software Regards Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Error with open ppt
On 19/04/2012, 邱长明 qiuchangming...@163.com wrote: It's different open with windows I'm think your must fix this bug No, libreoffice is not microsoft! If you want to use microsoft, go and buy their software. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
On 2012-04-19 8:18 AM webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Yes, you can have LO and AOO installed on the same computer. True No, you cannot run both at the same time. You can run both programs at the same time on a Mac. No, it is not something that works well for most users. Works well for me. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
I've also been wondering how I can go back to OpenOffice, wondering whether I should uninstall LibreOffice first. I've had trouble with LibreOffice refusing to print in landscape mode. I googled and learned that it's a known issue -- at least a few people have reported this. I've tried everything I know (not much) to fix it, but, although Print Preview looks fine, anything printed in landscape mode is distorted. So I'm thinking of getting rid of Libre Office and re-installing Open Office. I'm not a sophisticated user and not even sure I know how to do this correctly. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:56 AM, John Bijnens johnbijne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I thought after the fork of LibreOffice Oracle gave the source code of OpenOffice to the Apache Foundation. IBM donated the source code of their OpenOffice fork called Lotus Symphony also to the Apache Foundation. If I've read everything correctly the Apache Foundation has a special policy called the Incubation this is a period of time during which amongst lots of other things the new project is kept under quarantine for patent issues and to see whether the project is viable. I thought this period of time is practically over and a new release of OpenOffice can be expected during the second half of this year. I have OpenOffice installed on my laptop and I have LibreOffice as a portable app on an external hard drive in case I need it. I prefer OpenOffice because, although it lacks some features available in LibreOffice which I don't use that often, it is much stabler and thus more of use in a production environment. Of course this is my personal impression, things can be different for someone else. Best regards, John Bijnens On 19/04/2012 16:18, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I really do not think having LO and AOO on the same computer works properly for most users. LO is well beyond what AOO is at, and LO people have cleaned out so much of the old/bad/outdated code that it would be a real catch-up act for AOO to give you the same features and such that LO have given us since mid-3.3.x line. I use 3.4.6, but will got to 3.5.x when it get some of its issues fixed that are specific for my needs. Yes, you can have LO and AOO installed on the same computer. No, you cannot run both at the same time. No, it is not something that works well for most users. Yes, it is your choice to try. On 04/19/2012 08:49 AM, Caesar wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:34:39 +0200, R.S. rosario.scars...@libero.it wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...: Il 19/04/2012 6.03, Jerry Greenberg ha scritto: Is it possible to have both Libre Office and Open Office installed at the same time on the same computer? Are there going to be any new updates for Open Office. I read that since Oracle took over they have not been very keen on supporting Open Office. Hi, although it colud be possible, the installation program registers on the registry the same associations. If you have encountered crashes with Libreoffice 3.5.2.2 try using version 3.4.6. I prefer using Libreoffice because it is more efficient and it has a lot of functions that are not included in OpenOffice. You can probably avoid any such conflicts by using a portable version of LO from here: http://portableapps.com/news/2012-04-16_-_libreoffice_portable_3.5.2_released for more info, see this: http://portableapps.com/support/libreoffice_portable -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse11.4 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Error with open ppt
On 04/19/2012 12:26 PM, e-letter wrote: On 19/04/2012, 邱长明qiuchangming...@163.com wrote: It's different open with windows I'm think your must fix this bug No, libreoffice is not microsoft! If you want to use microsoft, go and buy their software. It depends on the OS, if Linux you can not use MSO because there is no MSO version available. Also, it was not stated how the file was obtained or created. I use Linux and often must open a MSO file so accurate file conversion is always a potential, nagging issue. Also, unstated but implied is whether a Windows/MSO machine is even available. Mac users may also be in the same position, no MSO installed or available and they have a file they need/want to open that is in a MSO format. Stop assuming the user has access to MSO, many do not. And many are sent or must download files in MSO formats because others are too lazy/stupid to provide alternate formats. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
On 04/19/2012 12:36 PM, Helen wrote: I've also been wondering how I can go back to OpenOffice, wondering whether I should uninstall LibreOffice first. I've had trouble with LibreOffice refusing to print in landscape mode. I googled and learned that it's a known issue -- at least a few people have reported this. I've tried everything I know (not much) to fix it, but, although Print Preview looks fine, anything printed in landscape mode is distorted. So I'm thinking of getting rid of Libre Office and re-installing Open Office. I'm not a sophisticated user and not even sure I know how to do this correctly. In Windows uninstall LO first, then install OOo, I forget the exact steps. In Linux use your package manager to uninstall LO and Install OOo. I have no idea for a Mac. snip -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Error with open ppt
Hi :) +1 except that MS Office is available for Mac but just because it's available doesn't mean it's installed on every machine. I agree that we should be welcoming people in instead of giving them abuse and also think we should be helping them deal with people that have not yet been able to install LibreOffice/OpenOffice, Lotus Symphony, Calligra/KOffice, google-docs or any of the other choices that use the ODF format well. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 19/4/12, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Error with open ppt To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 19 April, 2012, 18:06 On 04/19/2012 12:26 PM, e-letter wrote: On 19/04/2012, 邱长明qiuchangming...@163.com wrote: It's different open with windows I'm think your must fix this bug No, libreoffice is not microsoft! If you want to use microsoft, go and buy their software. It depends on the OS, if Linux you can not use MSO because there is no MSO version available. Also, it was not stated how the file was obtained or created. I use Linux and often must open a MSO file so accurate file conversion is always a potential, nagging issue. Also, unstated but implied is whether a Windows/MSO machine is even available. Mac users may also be in the same position, no MSO installed or available and they have a file they need/want to open that is in a MSO format. Stop assuming the user has access to MSO, many do not. And many are sent or must download files in MSO formats because others are too lazy/stupid to provide alternate formats. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Spell checker breaks in Windows XP LO 3.5.2
Hi Manfred, Thanks again for your kind help. So, as per your suggestions: You might try to re-synchronize the 'bundled dictionaries': - Close LibreOffice (+ Quickstarter, if enabled) - Go to '...\Documents and Settings\user name\Application Data\LibreOffice\3\user\extensions\bundled' - Rename the folder 'bundled' to (e.g.) 'bundled_old' - Restart LibO. A new folder 'bundled' will be created in the user profile. All bundled dictionaries should be available. I followed the above and exactly what you expected would happen ended up happening. Unfortunately, my spell checker remained broken. Still no fat check mark. Addendum: (1) Checking the program folder 'extensions' [Path: ...\Program_Files\LibreOffice 3.5\share\extensions] - Folder 'dict-en' is available (with the file 'en_US.dic' [among others])? Both the folder and the file are present. (2) Your LibreOffice 3.5.2 installation: default or customized installation? Default. (3) Does the problem occur--right from start--with - a renamed LibreOffice user profile I exited LO, deleted the C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\LibreOffice folder, and restarted. The folder was re-created, but the spell checker remained broken. - another / a new user (OS level)? I created a new user -- an administrator -- and logged out. I logged in as the new user and started LO. Spell check was still broken in the same way. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile Thanks again for your help. Would you have any other ideas? I'd be enthusiastic to hear them! Christian -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Spell-checker-breaks-in-Windows-XP-LO-3-5-2-tp3919812p3923826.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Spell checker breaks in Windows XP LO 3.5.2
Hi krakedpress, Thanks for your input. I have had success with these dictionaries in the past, but I thought this time I'd try to figure out why the default dictionaries are breaking as they are. I'd love to get to the bottom of this as I'm sure I'm not the only user to whom this is happening. All the best, Christian -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Spell-checker-breaks-in-Windows-XP-LO-3-5-2-tp3919812p3923836.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problems importing an OO database into LO
On 18.4.2012 13:23, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) That is exactly why i wondered if Andreas' points could be worked on while leaving the existing package, Base, as it stands. That way the database functionality could be moved forwards while leaving the kludgy mess (ok, it might not be a kludge from a coders pov) to get sorted 'later'. The trees outside my window have been severely pruned back but i know that by the summer the leaves will be out in full force. The trees look a lot healthier already as they are not groaning under their own weight. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 18/4/12, Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problems importing an OO database into LO To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 18 April, 2012, 10:05 Le 17/04/12 18:14, Andreas Säger a écrit : Hi all, The easiest improvements in my honest opinion: - Wipe out the .odb container all together and get back to the configuration of database access in OOo 1. Back to external databases with configuration data in configuration files, forms and reports in stand-alone office documents. More speed more safety, security, accessibility and transparency. People who do not understand how to connect separated software tools do not understand the .odb container neither (as we can read in all the mail merge topics). - Remove all the half done wizards. Do not improve them. Remove! No database developer nor interface designer needs all this stinky rubbish. There are graphical tools to compose forms and reports within office documents. There is SQL for all the rest, including all the things we can not do in the current graphical interface. There are plenty of SQL editors to produce valid SQL for various databases. SQL text can be pasted into any database configuration. - Add native database queries, so the current direct SQL mode returns editable row sets and the (useless or even harmful) graphical query designer can be removed as well. - Having removed all the wizards (they are Java components) without losing any functionality at all, extensions could substitute .odb packages. When you open the extension, the database gets installed _permanently_ (rather than _temporarily_ like the .odb) into the configuration tree together with the forms and reports documents. The database will be registered and all the tables, queries, forms and reports are accessible form the data source window, hyperlinks and desktop links just like it used to be in OOo 1. Ah, nostalgia those were halcyon days ;-) +1 (not that that means anything in our user land. Unfortunately, as I was told quite a while ago either on the dev-list or IRC dev channel, or bugzilla, no-one wants to go back to 10 year old technology, i.e. the LO devs are not interested in undoing what Sun it its infinite wisdom thought would be a good idea when it re-invented OOo-Base, so we are stuck with what we have until someone steps up and decides to either unravel it all or improve it - a mammoth task by anyone's standards. Alex LibO-folks, From this long and very interesting thread and some other discussions on this mailing list too, together with my own recent experiences, there is only one main conclusion to draw: There is no real future forLibO's Base module, perhaps not for the whole LibO suite. From a non-expert user's perspective there are in fact two versions of LibO-Base A a Light-LibO-Base = a package consisting of LibO-Base as a front-end GUI and an embedded db-engine HSQKDBv1.8. This package is (could be) suitable for up to medium complex databases and be used by 'ordinary' people (like me) who does not have own skills in programming or developing or in SQL or other languages (PHP, HTML, etc.) -- who plainly want to create a database following instructions mechanically B an Advanced-LibO-Base = the LibO-Base module to be used as a front-end GUI connected to an external db-engine and that can be used by people with own knowledge in programming anddb-theories and SQL and who have a good knowledge of the whole LibO's build-up,preferable in the linux environment The Light-LibO-Base will fail because it is like a car without a gear box: you can open it and start it but not use it as intended Øthe installing procedure of Lib-O causes problems because of unclear instructions Øthe LibO-Base module as a program is half done;even basic features does not work Øthere is no documentation explicit for LibO-Base -- and will obviouslynot be; Users have to rely on OpenO documentation why there is no logical reason to install LibO (ordinary new users does not know about any differences between LibO and OO -- and do not know why to seek) Øthe LibreOffice Help is a disaster -- a user new to LibO does not get any (direct) help Øthe embedded HSQLv1.8 is out-of-date and causes frustration and waste of time because the lack of easy to get and sufficient
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open Office and Libre Office Questions...
John Bijnens wrote (19-04-12 16:56) I have OpenOffice installed on my laptop and I have LibreOffice as a portable app on an external hard drive in case I need it. I prefer OpenOffice because, although it lacks some features available in LibreOffice which I don't use that often, it is much stabler and thus more of use in a production environment. Of course this is my personal impression, things can be different for someone else. There are many bugs from OpenOffice code removed from the LibreOffice code. People running Libreoffice as a server application, that ran OpenOffice before, are extremely clear in their experience: it's much and much stabler. And the biggest bug from OpenOffice code is being worked on too at LibreOffice: cleaning up the whole thing, make it ready for future. This gives regressions, temporarily. Alas. But the other improvements outweigh that, by far. Ah well, you will find out yourself the next months, years maybe ;-) Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs
Malcolm Moore wrote (19-04-12 09:12) Incidentally ( or not ) LO gets it right in Windows Looks as what I suggested: a driver problem. Printing from Ubuntu to the Epson etc etc here, gives quite a 'different experience' from that when printing form Windows. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Getting Started Guide updated
Just to let people know. The Doc people updated the full book Getting Started Guide was updated today. Also the final Draw Guide chapters were added to the list today as well. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs
On 04/19/2012 03:19 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Malcolm Moore wrote (19-04-12 09:12) Incidentally ( or not ) LO gets it right in Windows Looks as what I suggested: a driver problem. Printing from Ubuntu to the Epson etc etc here, gives quite a 'different experience' from that when printing form Windows. I get no duplexing - even when it is asked for - with the Epson Artisan 810 inkjet, but will get it with the HP Laserjet 2300 dn. The default PDF reader will print duplex to the Epson, but it shows a different Printer Panel design. Is there any way to use the default Ubuntu Printer Panel options instead of LO's panel? 90% of the Windows software I have used in the past 10 years use the same Printer Panel and options that seems to be the system default one. Any reason why LO uses a different panel style? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Calc Data Filter, Standard Filter, Value lost during restart?
I have a calc database of 2000 lines or so. I use Data, Filter, Standard Filter to test whether one column has a certain value and whether the cells in another column are empty. Here is what the standard filter looks like: http://ompldr.org/vZGZ0dg This works fine on first attempt. However, when I save the file and then close it and reopen at a later date the Values in the Standard Filter are empty so the filter no longer works. It then looks like this: http://ompldr.org/vZGZ0eA Can anyone suggest what is going on. BTW this is LibreOffice v3.5.1.2 under ArchLinux. thanks in advanceLarry -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-Data-Filter-Standard-Filter-Value-lost-during-restart-tp3924523p3924523.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice losing position between sessions - solved!
At 06:45 PM 4/14/2012, you wrote: In openoffice, if I saved a document, when I next opened it, the cursor was automatically positioned where it was when I left off. This doesn't seem to be happening in libreoffice, as the cursor is always at the top of the document, meaning one has to remember some other way where I was up to. I can't find any option to turn this invaluable feature back on. Is this a design decision, an oversight, or am I missing an option somewhere? Cheers, Ron In all the years I've been using OO and LO (omg, am I getting old...) I never once had the good fortune of re-opening a document and automatically having the cursor (or pointer, however you prefer to call it) fall onto the location where I had left it before closing the doc. Before I close a document, I mark the spot where the cursor is located by inserting a bookmark (Alt - Insert - Bookmark and enter a name of your choice for the bookmark in the dialog box ). Then, to go back to that spot, after I reopen the document I right-click in the lower left corner, where the page count is shown, and the bookmark name pops up: a click on the name itself brings me to the bookmarked position in the text. Hope this helps. john -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary
Wish I could. Nary the knowledge or the time. Frustration abounds. On 4/19/2012 2:56 AM, Mark Stanton wrote: 'S a good idea. Go for it. Mark Stanton One small step for mankind... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Problems importing an OO database into LO
Am 19.04.2012 20:45, Pertti Rönnberg wrote: LibO-folks, From this long and very interesting thread and some other discussions on this mailing list too, together with my own recent experiences, there is only one main conclusion to draw: There is no real future forLibO's Base module, perhaps not for the whole LibO suite. From a non-expert user's perspective there are in fact two versions of LibO-Base A a Light-LibO-Base = a package consisting of LibO-Base as a front-end GUI and an embedded db-engine HSQKDBv1.8. This package is (could be) suitable for up to medium complex databases and be used by 'ordinary' people (like me) who does not have own skills in programming or developing or in SQL or other languages (PHP, HTML, etc.) -- who plainly want to create a database following instructions mechanically B an Advanced-LibO-Base = the LibO-Base module to be used as a front-end GUI connected to an external db-engine and that can be used by people with own knowledge in programming anddb-theories and SQL and who have a good knowledge of the whole LibO's build-up,preferable in the linux environment I can hardly see any difference between A and B. The embedded HSQLDB behaves exactly like an external DB. When you open the embedded database document you actually _install_ an external HSQLDB and connect the office suite to that _external_ database in cached mode (single user on local machine) until you close the database document which re-packages the external database. IMHO, nobody needs to know anything about macro programming in order to build useful database applications with Base. The vast majority of Base macros are due to bad database design, save one or two clicks or they are made to impress the boss. There are plenty of macros for generic tasks. All the most desperately wanted macros have been written already (clone records, refresh this and that, open forms and reports, open text as hyperlink). What I would describe as Base light is the ability to use spreadsheets, csv files, dBase files, LDAP and popular mail client address books as read-only data sources for office documents, mostly mail merge. This is the most important feature and the concept is superior to MS Office if there is a computer knowledgable administrator able to work with templates, spreadsheets, plain text and some SQL in a creative manner. For the end user who writes a serial letter the type of data source makes no difference at all. It is always used in the same (slightly clumsy) way, no matter if the addresses come from Oracle server or plain text file. The Light-LibO-Base will fail because it is like a car without a gear box: you can open it and start it but not use it as intended Øthe installing procedure of Lib-O causes problems because of unclear instructions Øthe LibO-Base module as a program is half done;even basic features does not work Base is not a stand-alone program and all the _basic_ features do work well. The database backend is a mature database program, most of the rest belongs to the Writer component. There is just too much dysfunctional junk on top of the basic database functionality which does not add any additional functionality. Everything that the wizards are supposed to do can be done without the wizard. Today's users are do not accept any _basic_ features in a highly sophisticated office suite, no matter how well the basic features use to work. Instead they complain about the dysfunctional rubbish. Øthere is no documentation explicit for LibO-Base -- and will obviouslynot be; There is excellent documentation for OOo Base which is identical to LibO Base. Main problem with documentation is that today's computer users overestimate their skills and do not understand the difference between end user applications and development tools. This type of office suite suggest that each component should be as easy to use as the text processor. Users have to rely on OpenO documentation why there is no logical reason to install LibO (ordinary new users does not know about any differences between LibO and OO -- and do not know why to seek) Øthe LibreOffice Help is a disaster -- a user new to LibO does not get any (direct) help LibO documentation on Base is plain wrong and misleading. Simply point to the existing OOo docs or copy and paste that stuff. Øthe embedded HSQLv1.8 is out-of-date and causes frustration and waste of time because the lack of easy to get and sufficient support There are not many users who suffer from the limited capabilities of HSQL1.8. A high risk of total data loss is the main reason why one must not use the embedded database. Getting an embedded database out of the jail is easy enough. Øthe reports is a important part of the data output; there is no Report Builder explicit for LibO-Base or one that works properly Calc is a very good sorrogate for a report engine even if you are not very familiar with spreadsheets. It supports
[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc Data Filter, Standard Filter, Value lost during restart?
Am 19.04.2012 23:37, lagagnon wrote: I have a calc database of 2000 lines or so. I use Data, Filter, Standard Filter to test whether one column has a certain value and whether the cells in another column are empty. Here is what the standard filter looks like: http://ompldr.org/vZGZ0dg This works fine on first attempt. However, when I save the file and then close it and reopen at a later date the Values in the Standard Filter are empty so the filter no longer works. It then looks like this: http://ompldr.org/vZGZ0eA Can anyone suggest what is going on. BTW this is LibreOffice v3.5.1.2 under ArchLinux. thanks in advanceLarry Works for me with LibreOffice 3.5.2 and any other version under XUbuntu 10.4 and Windows 7. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Ubuntu 12.04 with MATE LO 3.4.6 install error
I am dealing with a DELL laptop that I went from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 final beta. I installed MATE for its GNOME 2.x desktop environment. Ubuntu 12.04 final beta installs 3.5.2 as a default. I wanted LO 3.4.6 instead. BUT, I had errors trying to get the menus system to show 3.4.6 I could not get the launchers to show in Applications/Office I finally got it to work but it required a bit of weirdness. I un-installed 3.5.2 with Ubuntu Software Center [the big mistake] Install 3.4.6 with the terminal install menu [desktop-integration] - got errors try 1via terminal stated something about could not since the menus already exists try 2via GDebi Package installer had error in the LO core dependency SOLUTION - I hoped but it worked First I had to reinstall 3.5.2 via the Synaptic Package Manager Second Then removed it in that same manager just after it was reinstalled Then ran the 3.4.6 desktop-integration via GDebi Package installer [since 3.4.6 still was in the Synaptic Package list] It worked then, showing the launcher listing for LO in the Applications/Office. SO Please do not remove the default LO version via the Ubuntu Software Center when you have 12.04 and MATE. It may be OK when 12.04LTS comes out on April 26th, but I will not hold my breath. It could be MATE, or a combination. I do not know, but it messed me up. So currently, it WILL cause problems. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:44:57AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-04-19 2:56 AM, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk wrote: 'S a good idea. Go for it. who are you talking to, and *what* is a good idea? Replying without quoting *anything* to maintain context is just as dumb as if not dumber than blindly quoting everything... +1 -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Page Styles not consistent
What I'm Running: Using Writer 3.4.4 on Mint 12 KDE. What I want: A header on each page except the first page of each chapter How I tried to do it: I created a separate page style for the first page of each chapter. I disabled the header for this style, and set the Default style (with the header turned on) to be the next style. What went right: The selected page no longer had the header, and the following page did. What went horribly wrong: Every other page following that is missing the header. It seems that the only way to consistently get the style to work is to end the first page with a manual break. Unfortunately, that would severely disrupt the flow of the text (and the layout). Is there any way to do this? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- -Mannex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs
I don't understand why you say it's a driver problem when every other application gets it right only LO misses stuff. best wishes M _ From: Cor Nouws [mailto:oo...@nouenoff.nl] To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info] Sent: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:19:44 +0100 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs Malcolm Moore wrote (19-04-12 09:12) Incidentally ( or not ) LO gets it right in Windows Looks as what I suggested: a driver problem. Printing from Ubuntu to the Epson etc etc here, gives quite a 'different experience' from that when printing form Windows. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
