Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
Hi :) I think people were saying that Rtf is worth avoiding. Odt recently had an upgrade and is now on it's 1.2 release. You were probably using it 2 releases ago when it was on 1.0. Also it is becoming more popular now that both Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice are getting developed a lot faster and bugs dealt with better now that there are far more devs ibn both projects (and probably some that work on both still). So pretty soon Odt is likely to be something that is unavoidable. People often lose flash-drives, or accidentally leave them in machines, each year a surprising number accidentally get dropped down the loo or into beer-glasses. It's quite an easy target for people to steal. People sometimes just pull them out of machines without using the Safely remove usb-stick things that in Windows is in the System tray fairly near the clock. Drives that are formatted to be read by Windows (so Ntfs and all the Fats incl vFat) get corrupted easily. So, flash-drives are not the safest way of storing data and any data you value should be safely on a proper hard-drive somewhere and backed-up from there. It's interesting to hear people say they have never had any trouble with something when describing a situation they are having trouble with it in. My boss was telling me he has never had trouble with Internet Explorer but couldn't download any Pdfs. So i tried his machine and found that Firefox could download the same Pdf he was having trouble with. Then i reset his default Pdf reader to Foxit and found both FF and Internet Explorer could then download the Pdf. Antivirus scans turned up nothing. He switched back to using Adobe and again IE couldn't download the Pdf. Then he spent all afternoon fixing it during which time he said he had a similar problem on his home machine and it was easy to fix. He still says he's never had any trouble with IE or Adobe. Sometimes we just don't notice things we are used to dealing with but grumble at the slightest problem we have with an unfamiliar tool. The advantage with Pdf is that everyone gets to see the document exactly as you intended it to be laid out. The problem used to be that you would have to rely on Adobe software to read it and needed to pay money to buy something to produce them. Nowadays pretty much anything can write Pdfs including a lot of OpenSource (usually free and also Free) programs. Editing them is still a bit of a pain but then you always have the original in an editable format such as Doc, Odt, Html or whatever. Corporate types are beginning to put too much emphasis on Pdfs and seem to think they are wonderful but don't seem to notice the weird jpg distortions, swirls, wakes and random artifacts that get added when using MS Office to create the Pdf. LibreOffice offers many options such as uncompressed or adding in accessibility features for screen-readers so that blind people can read them more easily onscreen. Also with LibreOffice it's easier to add in clickable links and a table-of-contents that jumps to the right place (or at least i've never found a Word user that knows how to do it in Word). The ideal combination seems to be to send a Pdf along with an editable format if you are collaborating with people and care about how it looks, especially if either you or the person at the other end (or both) is using Word and Word formats. Regards from Tom :) From: Chris Carlson cwcarls...@cox.net To: Cc: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 5:58 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document Wow, what a lot of great responses. Thanks, all. To answer a number of questions: I was using an older version of LO (I just got notified when I brought it up this month that a new version was available). Both versions could not open the .doc file. The 3.5 version I am using now was updated this last weekend (3.5.7.2). Word 2003 and LO are running on the same machine, running Windows 7. I didn't consider writing it as RTF and reading it into LO. I'll try that next time. I'm guessing the LibreOffice folder is the one under C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice. It was suggested I post the file to Nobble. I'm willing to do that, but I don't know what that is. Google doesn't provide anything useful. I will definitely look into the Bullzip PDF printer (I've downloaded it). I have a PDF printer somewhere (when I bought OmniPage 18), but I can't seem to find the CD. My biggest goal in bringing up this issue was to help the LO developers fix a problem. I was ultimately able to send the .doc file to my work computer and generate PDF there. Just so you know, I'm not a huge fan of .PDF. The only reason I have to provide .PDF is because the company we use to print the newsletter requires it. Apparently, the .PDF format is a lot smaller, too, so it is what
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice
Hi :) I think you meant VHS but i really had to think about it. Interesting to hear the Betamax really might have outlived VHS afterall! People mostly moved to the various Dvd formats (including Bluray). Regards from Tom :) From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 1:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice This reminds me to video systems: Video2000 was said to be the best but died quickly. Sony BetaMax is only alive in the professional sector, but VDF (is this correct?), always called the worst video system in still alive... On 2012-11-29 00:14, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 28/11/2012 at 15:55, VA cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: That may be the hazard of having a truly open and standard file format. It eliminates a program's ability to survive. This is far from truth. Take a look at e-mail protocols: POP3 and IMAP. Do we have only two e-mail server apps and two e-mail client apps, one for each? No. We have plenty of servers and tons of clients. Take a look at XMPP messaging protocol (this is what Gmail and Facebook uses for their chats). Again: plenty of servers, tons of apps. Take a look at BitTorrent file sharing protocol. There are many clients for every platform. We have standards for HTML and CSS, yet there are at least four competing web browsers out there (although there was time when market was monopolized). This list can go on. Standard file formats are pretty much irrelevant to program's ability to survive. It's number of features, availability on certain OS, UI, branding, number translations and other things which are around standards that matters. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice
Hi :) +1 In my country there is a saying a miss is as good as a mile. I do kinda agree with Dennis about the point that using xml in a zip-file format is a bit like using a red pen on paper. Just because 2 people use the same tools doesn't mean the result will be very similar. Regards from Tom :) From: VA cuyfa...@hotmail.com To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012, 21:12 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice What I find maddening is that two document formats can be so similar, and yet remain so different. As Maxwell Smart would say, missed by THAT much. Virgil -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:27 PM To: 'VA' ; 'Pedro' ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice I don't understand the maddening aspect of this reaction. I suppose I don't have to. When ODF was developed at OASIS, one of the design points was to be based on the functionality of OpenOffice 1.x as it was at the time, starting from an XML format that was developed for that product. It was explicitly ruled out of scope for the format to have counterparts of Microsoft Office document features. When OOXML was developed, using the Open Packaging Conventions that were already used by Microsoft for a different project, a critical goal was to have fidelity-preserving, convertible features of legacy Microsoft Office documents. There is also a strict version that doesn't include so much of the legacy accommodation and has some better feature provisions going forward. There you have it. ODF 1.0 then ODF 1.1 and now ODF 1.2. Also, OOXML versions 1 through 3 (so far), although ODF changed more from ODF 1.1 to ODF 1.2 (because of the addition of OpenFormula) than anything that happened to OOXML since the ISO OOXML version. Neither of these are DocBook (an XML document format) or DITA or any other XML-carried document format. None of that is surprising in any technical way: XML is not a document format, it is a markup format for extending and customizing into any number of document models and schemas. XML by itself (unlike HTML, yet-another document format) doesn't establish any kind of document format whatsoever. There was an ISO working group looking into the harmonization of document formats, especially with what could make better portability among OOXML-based and ODF-based software. A recent report on the subject is rather interesting. Look at http://www.interoperability-center.com/en/dokumenten-iop-lab. The final report on Document Profiling and a White Paper on Document Interoperability are listed in the Publications sidebar. - Dennis -Original Message- From: VA [mailto:cuyfa...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 06:56 To: Pedro; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice This is utterly maddening. Based on Pedro's post, I ran a simple test. I created a document in Word (.docx) and an identical document in LibO (.odt). I saved them both and then extracted their contents using 7-zip Manager. I was amazed at how similar the two document contents were, and yet how different. Neither document had any of the binary smilie faces I've come to expect by opening a .doc document in a text editor. All of the individual files contained formatting codes in simple text. And, yet... The maddening part is how two programs can create the same type of documents (xml files saved in a zipped format) and yet remain so completely different. [ ... ] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] solaris/smartos support planned?
Hi :) There are a number of plans for different directions but i think the main focus is getting onto mobile devices (are we nearly there yet?) and a CLoud type thing for immediate collaboration so that more than one person can be working on a document at the same time. Most things such as Wikipedia allow a lot of people to work on a document but not at the same time. Typically when one person is editing the document is locked in some way. If 2 people do edit at the same time then when they try to save a lot of conflict errors appear. Also even if they are editing at the same time they don't see the other person's edit until they try to save. LO aims to have soemthing that could be on a Cloud or on a company server or something like that so that everyone sees everyone elses edit as they type!! Real-time like a Mmorpgh (errr, i got those initials wrong i think) Regards from Tom :) From: Yaroslav Tarasenko yaros...@atalanta-systems.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012, 19:04 Subject: [libreoffice-users] solaris/smartos support planned? Hello, are there any plans to have solaris port of libreoffice oficially supported? What is the opinion of developers on the topic? Is there a future for solaris/illumos port? Thanks for replies. -- Regards, Yaroslav. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Converting html into text
On 11/28/2012 08:13 PM, Gary Montalbine wrote: Thanks everyone for your help. I am now able to copy in text. Gary It was suggested that I explain what I did. The graphic's and paragraphs I just did a copy and paste. Adjusted the size and location of the graphics as necessary. For the columns I had to press enter a few times past the intended insertion point for the columns. This was the main key. Otherwise I got stuck in the columns and could not get out to add more. I copied the columns into LO using edit - paste special - unformatted text. This gave me a single column. I then highlighted the column and did a Format - Columns and chose 2. This gave me 2 even columns which I could edit. I then clicked under the column in one of the places I had previously clicked to get out of it. Thanks again for everyones help. Gary On 11/28/2012 03:18 PM, Gary Montalbine wrote: I am trying to copy this website to text. http://knottsislandonline.com/kiscrapbook/cemeteriesmelinda3.html When I copy and paste into libreoffice the data in the columns is in rectangular boxes that I can not do anything with. How can I put this in text format? Thanks, Gary -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Converting html into text
Hi :) Superb! Nicely done! Also thanks for letting the list know so that people in the future can find the answer from the archives. Congrats, thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Gary Montalbine gmontalb...@cox.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 12:05 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Converting html into text On 11/28/2012 08:13 PM, Gary Montalbine wrote: Thanks everyone for your help. I am now able to copy in text. Gary It was suggested that I explain what I did. The graphic's and paragraphs I just did a copy and paste. Adjusted the size and location of the graphics as necessary. For the columns I had to press enter a few times past the intended insertion point for the columns. This was the main key. Otherwise I got stuck in the columns and could not get out to add more. I copied the columns into LO using edit - paste special - unformatted text. This gave me a single column. I then highlighted the column and did a Format - Columns and chose 2. This gave me 2 even columns which I could edit. I then clicked under the column in one of the places I had previously clicked to get out of it. Thanks again for everyones help. Gary On 11/28/2012 03:18 PM, Gary Montalbine wrote: I am trying to copy this website to text. http://knottsislandonline.com/kiscrapbook/cemeteriesmelinda3.html When I copy and paste into libreoffice the data in the columns is in rectangular boxes that I can not do anything with. How can I put this in text format? Thanks, Gary -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] hello
Hello , I am a Debian Gnu / Linux User and I want to know how to contribute to Libre Office. Any ideas ? I don't know good programming but I want to help -- Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras http://jemaduxblog.blogspot.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] hello
On 11/29/2012 07:52 AM, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: Hello , I am a Debian Gnu / Linux User and I want to know how to contribute to Libre Office. Any ideas ? I don't know good programming but I want to help Three possibilities that I can think of: the development group (the program people), the documentation group (these write the guides for LO), and Quality Assurance (these help test new versions verifying their usability and help verify the bugs filed). --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] hello
Hi :) Loads of different areas you can help. It can be good to do a quick tour and try each team for a couple of weeks to see which you prefer. Documentation is a good one to start with although it might take them a while to give you access to the site where the works-in-progress are kept. One of their current missions is to complete translating the German Handbook for Base and they really need people to proof-read to see if any odd errors have crept in. It's unusual to be translating from another language but it happens that way sometimes. The wiki's Faq is being translated from the French. Documentation is a good one to start with because you quickly learn a lot about LibreOffice just from getting into the work. If you have skills in other human languages then you might enjoy helping the translation teams. A fairly popular team is marketing. Again whichever country you happen to live in might have a 'local' team and/or whichever human language you prefer to speak may have a different team. If you are in the USA then the team is fairly small and i think the UK doesn't have one due to general shyness. Brasil and Germany have teams that are so large they have formed independent companies. So, it's quite variable. So, you might have to limit yourself to just a few teams out of quite a large selection of possibilities. I think the Design Team only has 1 list and i don't know if they try to stick to English or something else. QA is often known as bug-testers or triagers in other projects. From your blog it looks like you might have enough command-line skills to be quite an advanced member of their team. Usually you learn through working in the lists and asking questions but you might already be ready to answer other people's questions there. When you say you don't know good programming that might mean you just need to try out a few Easy Hacks and get feedback from the devs in order to learn the best ways of doing things in LO. Each project probably has slightly different ideas about some things. I think LO mostly uses C++ and possibly Python but is moving away from Java. So, lots of different teams, often with different languages. Most don't have any programming or even command-line skills and the personality types best suited to Marketing might not be best for Documentation or programming and vice-versa. So the trick is finding a team that has a few people you like or that does work you enjoy and join in for a bit. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message - From: Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras kleag...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 12:52 Subject: [libreoffice-users] hello Hello , I am a Debian Gnu / Linux User and I want to know how to contribute to Libre Office. Any ideas ? I don't know good programming but I want to help -- Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras http://jemaduxblog.blogspot.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice
Hi :) I'm completely lost now. I have a friend that is a VJ and he goes on about their different formats but i have no idea. He can just about get it when i go on about Pdf versus Odt versus DocX but that is pushing it. I'm currently struggling with trying to find good formats for still images. When i make a poster i can get it as a fairly tiny Png which doesn't get corrupted but other people often give me Jpegs or Pdfs with Jpeg compression that look really awful by the time they get to the website or get printed. For some reason a lot of people seem to think a good poster design is to make a nice jpeg image at say 4million pixels by 2 million or some ridiculously large size and then insert it into Word and then export to Pdf. So the image undergoes horrible mutilations and is ridiculously heavy by the time they send it and they can't understand because their original looked good in Paint or whichever stupid program they use. I'm just really glad i don't have to deal with video because i'm sure people would carefully avoid using anything decent at any stage of the process and then expect me to present it beautifully. Regards from Tom :) From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 11:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice Yes, I meant VHS - it just did not pop my mind. Thanks for your help. However, Blu-ray is only a storage format /technology not the video information. The video information is still in VHS or BetaMax. Thus the junk of VHS is still alive. All amateur video cameras work with VHS. (I hope that this is all correct!!!) http://www.blu-ray.com/info/ On 2012-11-29 18:15, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think you meant VHS but i really had to think about it. Interesting to hear the Betamax really might have outlived VHS afterall! People mostly moved to the various Dvd formats (including Bluray). Regards from Tom :) From: rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012, 1:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Good Article for LibreOffice This reminds me to video systems: Video2000 was said to be the best but died quickly. Sony BetaMax is only alive in the professional sector, but VDF (is this correct?), always called the worst video system in still alive... On 2012-11-29 00:14, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 28/11/2012 at 15:55, VA cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: That may be the hazard of having a truly open and standard file format. It eliminates a program's ability to survive. This is far from truth. Take a look at e-mail protocols: POP3 and IMAP. Do we have only two e-mail server apps and two e-mail client apps, one for each? No. We have plenty of servers and tons of clients. Take a look at XMPP messaging protocol (this is what Gmail and Facebook uses for their chats). Again: plenty of servers, tons of apps. Take a look at BitTorrent file sharing protocol. There are many clients for every platform. We have standards for HTML and CSS, yet there are at least four competing web browsers out there (although there was time when market was monopolized). This list can go on. Standard file formats are pretty much irrelevant to program's ability to survive. It's number of features, availability on certain OS, UI, branding, number translations and other things which are around standards that matters. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Second paragraph language
W dniu 2012-11-29 12:07, Tom Davies pisze: Hi :) has anyone given a good answer to this yet or have you solved the problem yourself? You can take an empty document and set the desired language in the paragraph style default. Then you save this document as document template. Whenever you need this language, you generate your new document not from the default template but from this special template. Kind regards Regina Yes, the problem was solved thanks to Regina. Regards, gordom From: gordom gord...@wp.pl To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2012, 13:44 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Second paragraph language Hallo everyone. Question concerns a localized version of Writer. When I start a new document a default language is set to the paragraph. Its name is displayed on a status bar. Quite often however, I need to write documents in foreign language. Now, if I want to set the other language, I need to scroll down the whole list of all available options each time. It would be much more convenient to see the other language name right away (beside a default one). Is there any way to set its name permanently on the list? I noticed that this can be achieved if the user interface language is different then a default language for documents (but it's not exactly what I want). Thank you very much for any help. Kind regards, gordom -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] hello
On 11/29/2012 07:52 AM, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: Hello , I am a Debian Gnu / Linux User and I want to know how to contribute to Libre Office. Any ideas ? I don't know good programming but I want to help There are a lot of things that do not involve programming. Do you have Marketing Skills? Do you have good skills in English or your native language if it is other than English. [for help converting the documents to that language]. LO has many Wiki pages that need content, like the FAQ page. There are always a need for people to help with editing of documents to find anyerrors in grammar or other things that slipped through the authors. I am an Ubuntu user, Ubuntu 12.04 with Mate as the desktop environment, plus Windows XP and Vista systems. I no longer have programming skills after 3 strokes, so that was out for me as well. But there are many ways I help the LibreOffice cause. I amcurrently working on ideas for a 6 letter size pages/panels for a quick reference guide for Writer and then the others. It may be a project that will work or not. I will be looking at what could be included and gathering the information for the included items. When this project gets going, we will need helpers. I have worked on creating English spell checking dictionaries. http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/american-british-canadian-spelling-hyphen-thesaurus-dictionaries Then there are those of us that create regional DVDs for distribution of LO and related files geared towards your regional area. I maintain the North American Community DVD Project's DVD. ISO file http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.6.3 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=3.5.7 Web site showing the contents of the ISO file [and updates that will be in the next ISO file http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.6-installs/install.html -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] hello
On 11/29/2012 04:52 AM, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: Hello , I am a Debian Gnu / Linux User and I want to know how to contribute to Libre Office. Any ideas ? I don't know good programming but I want to help This is a great place to start: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage Feel free to email me if you have any specific questions with that, I'm part of the QA team and would be happy to help you get involved. Regards, Joel -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
We could have both. There could be a 2 page Quick Reference cheat sheet for easier tasks and then the next 4 pages could address more challenging functions. That way anyone looking to check on (or forgetting) how to do a quick task could see the cheat sheet and for the more advanced tasks the remainder of the Quick Reference/FAQ could have graphic images of the steps needed. I like the idea of having one for Writer and another for Calc and including tasks common to both. The harder part may be eliciting solutions.:) Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:07:37 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Those free Quick Reference guides are a start. Each package has 2 pages. I was thinking about having a 6 page reference sheet for Writer, and another one for Calc, with maybe 2 pages for the 6 as a generic info about the ToolsOptions menus. Maybe a brief info about custom installs for Windows, adding extensions and templates via. the Extension Manager, and other such info that might be wanted/needed. So, 4 of the 6 pages will be for Writer, or Calc, or Impress, or Draw, or Math, etc., etc., while the final 2 pages would be the same information that you might want for any of the quick reference guides. I still am waiting for the ones I bought. They really fill the sheets with a lot of information, or at least with the mathematics and science ones I bought in early 2000. I will see what they did for Word and such. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Please don't forget Impress and maybe Draw and Base at the end. On 2012-11-30 00:23, charles meyer wrote: We could have both. There could be a 2 page Quick Reference cheat sheet for easier tasks and then the next 4 pages could address more challenging functions. That way anyone looking to check on (or forgetting) how to do a quick task could see the cheat sheet and for the more advanced tasks the remainder of the Quick Reference/FAQ could have graphic images of the steps needed. I like the idea of having one for Writer and another for Calc and including tasks common to both. The harder part may be eliciting solutions.:) Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:07:37 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Those free Quick Reference guides are a start. Each package has 2 pages. I was thinking about having a 6 page reference sheet for Writer, and another one for Calc, with maybe 2 pages for the 6 as a generic info about the ToolsOptions menus. Maybe a brief info about custom installs for Windows, adding extensions and templates via. the Extension Manager, and other such info that might be wanted/needed. So, 4 of the 6 pages will be for Writer, or Calc, or Impress, or Draw, or Math, etc., etc., while the final 2 pages would be the same information that you might want for any of the quick reference guides. I still am waiting for the ones I bought. They really fill the sheets with a lot of information, or at least with the mathematics and science ones I bought in early 2000. I will see what they did for Word and such. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Second paragraph language
Regina, I took the your words from gordom's mail. How can you set the language in the default paragraph style? I could not find a possibility to do so? On 2012-11-29 23:36, gordom wrote: set the desired language in the paragraph style default. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and VoiceOver
I am a visually impaired and committed Mac user for over 5 years. Being blind I rely on VoiceOver screen reader which is a superb example of this type of assistive technology. While looking to see if Microsoft Office for Mac 2011 would be accessible, rather than pay then be disappointed I went on the Apple site and looked through FAQs for MS Office 2011. One of the first questions was from another VoiceOver user asking that very question. Back came the answer that MS Office was still not accessible (no surprises there!). However the person answering the question then complained bitterly about paid for office products being non-accessible and citing MS Office for Mac and Pages. I have used Pages for some time and find it accessible but irritating that it cannot do everything I need. It is endowed with keystrokes but lacks those I need. The answer to this FAQ then went on to recommend LibreOffice and OpenOffice as being accessible. I tried OpenOffice first some time ago and found it OK but not accessible when doing basic stuff like spell check when it failed to read dialogue box control labels or even focus the VoiceOver cursor in some dialogue boxes. I therefore discarded OpenOffice in favour of Pages which did all those basic things. So the other day I downloaded LibreOffice and found it even less accessible with VoiceOver than OpenOffice and far inferior in that respect than Pages. This is what I could not do: Write text and hear speech feedback as I typed; Select text at all; Find it nearly impossible to edit text because of not knowing where the editing cursor was; Complete failure to bring up any help screen from within LibreOffice; At that point I gave up. Please someone tell me this maybe a faulty installation and what I can do about that (yes I can download again but don't want to waste time if this lack of accessibility for VoiceOver is reality. Or perhaps there are some settings that need altering, I could not make any sense of the settings window, nothing worked and nothing led to anywhere. Can anyone help? Patrick Adams -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Second paragraph language
Hi, Dr. R. O Stapf schrieb: Regina, I took the your words from gordom's mail. How can you set the language in the default paragraph style? I could not find a possibility to do so? Open the category Paragraph Styles in the StylesFormatting window. Right click on Default and select item Modify Switch to dialog page Font. Select the desired language from the drop-down list Language. Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice and VoiceOver
Le 29/11/12 16:21, Patrick Adams a écrit : Hi Patrick, Please someone tell me this maybe a faulty installation and what I can do about that (yes I can download again but don't want to waste time if this lack of accessibility for VoiceOver is reality. Or perhaps there are some settings that need altering, I could not make any sense of the settings window, nothing worked and nothing led to anywhere. Can anyone help? Sorry to disappoint you, but LibreOffice is not fully accessible on the Mac. Your experience pretty much sums up the limited support for people with disabilities on that platform attempting to use LibreOffice. In addition, using VoiceOver and other accessibility tools with LibreOffice is known to cause random crashes. The reason is that the accessibility calls rely on an obsolescent programming interface which has since officially been declared deprecated by Apple, so until someone within the project manages to convince a Mac developer to join and help fix those issues, your problems will not be solved. There are or were plans to integrate IBM's developments for Symphony of a newer accessibility API into LibreOffice, but that has not happened for the moment as far as I know, and yet we keep hearing about it every now and then. For the time being, your best bet is to stick to the application that currently works best for you, but I sincerely doubt that that application is LibreOffice. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
Okay, I must be brain-dead. I misread nabble as nobble. Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which I'm having trouble. It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc. Thanks, all, for the support. Chris On 11/27/2012 11:41 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/28/2012 01:14 AM, Chris Carlson wrote: I'm new to this e-mail list, so excuse me if this is something discussed already. I've been very pleased with LibreOffice on many fronts. I recommend it to everyone. As a matter of fact, I use it instead of Word at every opportunity. At work, though, I use Word because that's what's installed. I write a newsletter for the American Legion. Since it was developed in Word, I use my old student copy of Word 2003 to create it each month. I have to provide both a .doc and .pdf of the newsletter to the printers. My trick, since Word 2003 doesn't offer a .pdf output, is to read the .doc with LibreOffice (3.5) and publish it to .pdf. For the first time in months, LibreOffice can't seem to recognize the .doc format. I'm using the same version of Word that I've used for months. The newsletter is basically the same file, which I copy and modify for the new month. For whatever reason, LibreOffice tries to open it as a text file. It initially asks what text encoding it should use, waits for a long time, and then opens a garbage document. Is this a known problem? Did I do something to the document that caused it to be read incorrectly? Thanks for any ideas on this. Chris Which subversion of 3.5 are you using? doc formats are generally well behaved for importing into LO. Occasionally there is file that does not load correctly. You might try saving the file as rtf and try opening that in LO. Once you get the newsletter to open is to save it using ODF formats instead of doc format. One trick you can try is to rename the Libreoffice users folder - I am not sure on Windows where it is. Restart LO and the folder will be recreated. If there is a garbled setting this sometimes fixes the problem. If you can post a typical file to Nabble someone may be able to see if they can replicate the problem. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
Thanks. Opens fine in my opensuse version of LO, which is I think about 3.5.4. (3.5 build 403). steve On 2012-11-30 05:45, Chris Carlson wrote: Okay, I must be brain-dead. I misread nabble as nobble. Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which I'm having trouble. It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc. Thanks, all, for the support. Chris On 11/27/2012 11:41 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/28/2012 01:14 AM, Chris Carlson wrote: I'm new to this e-mail list, so excuse me if this is something discussed already. I've been very pleased with LibreOffice on many fronts. I recommend it to everyone. As a matter of fact, I use it instead of Word at every opportunity. At work, though, I use Word because that's what's installed. I write a newsletter for the American Legion. Since it was developed in Word, I use my old student copy of Word 2003 to create it each month. I have to provide both a .doc and .pdf of the newsletter to the printers. My trick, since Word 2003 doesn't offer a .pdf output, is to read the .doc with LibreOffice (3.5) and publish it to .pdf. For the first time in months, LibreOffice can't seem to recognize the .doc format. I'm using the same version of Word that I've used for months. The newsletter is basically the same file, which I copy and modify for the new month. For whatever reason, LibreOffice tries to open it as a text file. It initially asks what text encoding it should use, waits for a long time, and then opens a garbage document. Is this a known problem? Did I do something to the document that caused it to be read incorrectly? Thanks for any ideas on this. Chris Which subversion of 3.5 are you using? doc formats are generally well behaved for importing into LO. Occasionally there is file that does not load correctly. You might try saving the file as rtf and try opening that in LO. Once you get the newsletter to open is to save it using ODF formats instead of doc format. One trick you can try is to rename the Libreoffice users folder - I am not sure on Windows where it is. Restart LO and the folder will be recreated. If there is a garbled setting this sometimes fixes the problem. If you can post a typical file to Nabble someone may be able to see if they can replicate the problem. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Problem reading Word 2003 document
Hi :) Ahhh, i think you might have missed the LibreOffice set-up that is already built in Nabble. You just find a way into the right thread, reply to anyone's comment, write a reply in the box and click on the More button just above where you write. There is another More button so if Upload file is not the top option then you've not quite reached the right place yet. Anyway it's all good now. I opened the file fine in 3.5.4 in Ubuntu 12.04. Not tried it in Windows, sry. Hmmm, page 4 only had 2 paragraphs and they were formatted a little weirdly with 2nd and subsequent lines being indented. Best way to fix that is probably to select the whole of the 2 paragraphs and then use the funny triangles in the ruler at the top. Errr, could you use Nabble or elsewhere to post a Pdf so we can see how it should look? Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Problem-reading-Word-2003-document-tp402p4021618.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Problem reading Word 2003 document
Hi :) Ok, so i got onto a Windows machine using LO 3.5.4 and it looked the same. In Word 2010 the couple of paragraphs from page 4 were on page 3 so page 4 started with the letter by Bill Cook.Here's a Pdf of the Word version Dec12.pdf http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4021634/Dec12.pdf It was fairly easy to kinda fix the LO issue with only 2 presses of the backspace button (still not quite perfect but loads better) but it was 11Mb so i gave up on uploading on my rubbishy Adsl line. Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Problem-reading-Word-2003-document-tp402p4021634.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Well, I would need others to help with the modules that I rarely use. What I would like to see is the easy things first and the harder things second. I really think each sheet should have the ToolsOptions info there and for the General info for setting up LO. That could be the last 1 or 2 panels. Then the first 4 or 5 panels would be dedicated for the module. This way, you will have some generic package stuff that may or my not be part of Writer or Calc, etc.. I do not think having a full sheet for setup and such would be a good marketing idea. Maybe we can have each panel/page be dedicated to similar features or processes. Writer Page 1 would be the intro to the menus and the UI. Where things are, etc. Page 2 all of the quick short cuts and other common things. Page 3 page, paragraph, text, formatting and other options Page 4 more advanced stuff Page 5 more advanced stuff Page 6 LO setup, ToolsOptions info, list of URLs for online info, etc., etc.. If we need more space, then we add 2 more panels/pages. I think 8 panels/pages would be the limit though for one quick sheet/guide. Calc, Draw, Impress, would be setup the same way. Math might take 2 panels of info. Base, well I will leave that for others. I can do a good part of Writer. I do not use Calc much, or Impress. I know very little about Draw or Math. Nothing about Base. I am willing to work on setting the panels up, but will need help filling in the advanced info for Writer. With others gathering the info for the other quick sheets, I will be willing to do those pages as well as long as I have the information from those who know things better than I do. Yes it will be hard to get others to help with the solutions. I will be going through the Writer guide for ideas and to others on the list for info. Then I will post the work on one of the Wiki pages. At that point there will be a lot of work with correcting any errors or ways to may the wording/graphics easier to use and understand. One visual aid with these sheets is the fact that similar info are grouped in boxes with a light colored background. Each grouping would have a slightly different background or different colored border to the box. That makes it easier to see what are things that belong together or are a part of a solution. But all that visual aids will come after all of the information and solutions are gathered together in some order. On 11/29/2012 10:42 AM, rost52 wrote: Please don't forget Impress and maybe Draw and Base at the end. On 2012-11-30 00:23, charles meyer wrote: We could have both. There could be a 2 page Quick Reference cheat sheet for easier tasks and then the next 4 pages could address more challenging functions. That way anyone looking to check on (or forgetting) how to do a quick task could see the cheat sheet and for the more advanced tasks the remainder of the Quick Reference/FAQ could have graphic images of the steps needed. I like the idea of having one for Writer and another for Calc and including tasks common to both. The harder part may be eliciting solutions.:) Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:07:37 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Those free Quick Reference guides are a start. Each package has 2 pages. I was thinking about having a 6 page reference sheet for Writer, and another one for Calc, with maybe 2 pages for the 6 as a generic info about the ToolsOptions menus. Maybe a brief info about custom installs for Windows, adding extensions and templates via. the Extension Manager, and other such info that might be wanted/needed. So, 4 of the 6 pages will be for Writer, or Calc, or Impress, or Draw, or Math, etc., etc., while the final 2 pages would be the same information that you might want for any of the quick reference guides. I still am waiting for the ones I bought. They really fill the sheets with a lot of information, or at least with the mathematics and science ones I bought in early 2000. I will see what they did for Word and such. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Second paragraph language
Thanks for putting my attention to this drop down list. Until now I did not recognize this possibility because switching languages never created a problem using the Tool/Language... menu. On 2012-11-30 01:25, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi, Dr. R. O Stapf schrieb: Regina, I took the your words from gordom's mail. How can you set the language in the default paragraph style? I could not find a possibility to do so? Open the category Paragraph Styles in the StylesFormatting window. Right click on Default and select item Modify Switch to dialog page Font. Select the desired language from the drop-down list Language. Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] hilarity of ZdNet
Your last line is priceless; I sure would like to know how to explain this idea to some folks ;-) money intelligent thinking are not necessarily linked. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Dunno how many people still subscribe to ZdNet. It's one worth avoiding but every once in a while they accidentally produce a bit of comedy. My all-time fav was when they were promoting a book introducing GnuLinux that had a free give-away Cd with loads of goodies for BSD and a popular BSD distro (ie nothing to do with GnuLinux). Here's another book to buy in order to learn how to do what TDF, LO and pretty much all OpenSource projects do quite naturally. Best to learn from TDF rather than buying a book which is possibly written by people who are new to the whole area http://uk.mg41.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch Just because something costs money doesn't mean the author knows more than you do yourself. Regards from Tom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Problem reading Word 2003 document
On 11/29/2012 04:05 PM, NoOp wrote: On 11/29/2012 08:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote: Okay, I must be brain-dead. I misread nabble as nobble. Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which I'm having trouble. It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc. ... Opens fine for me in: LO 3.6.3.2 Linux and Windows. LO 3.5.4.2 Linux. Opens in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (AOO) Linux. However right column is screwed up (blank until page 4). Crashed AOO 3.4.1 Windows, But opened after recovery - right column screwed in Windows version as well. And just loaded up a new LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 Windows: opens fine in that version as well. Recommend that you rename your LO profile and then try. If it works, then you most likely have an issue with your profile. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote: Okay, I must be brain-dead. I misread nabble as nobble. Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which I'm having trouble. It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc. Thanks, all, for the support. Chris Chris I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish. Jay snip -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem reading Word 2003 document
Thanks for looking into this. I really would like LO to become as good and better than MW. I just copied the PDF of my document to http://beachware.org/Dec12.pdf. Because you don't seem to have trouble loading it (at least it recognizes it as a Word document), I decided to try opening it with my Linux OpenOffice (3.2.1 build 9502). Sure enough, it opens fine there, but like you said, the columns are kind of screwy. Thanks again, Chris On 11/29/2012 10:11 AM, Tom wrote: Hi :) Ahhh, i think you might have missed the LibreOffice set-up that is already built in Nabble. You just find a way into the right thread, reply to anyone's comment, write a reply in the box and click on the More button just above where you write. There is another More button so if Upload file is not the top option then you've not quite reached the right place yet. Anyway it's all good now. I opened the file fine in 3.5.4 in Ubuntu 12.04. Not tried it in Windows, sry. Hmmm, page 4 only had 2 paragraphs and they were formatted a little weirdly with 2nd and subsequent lines being indented. Best way to fix that is probably to select the whole of the 2 paragraphs and then use the funny triangles in the ruler at the top. Errr, could you use Nabble or elsewhere to post a Pdf so we can see how it should look? Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Problem-reading-Word-2003-document-tp402p4021618.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printed Glossy Magazines
Could you summarize the highlights for those of us that don't understand the computer-talk ;-) so we'll know when we really must upgrade. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) My 'local' supermarket, part of a national and possibly international chain, used to have an isle for magazines with 1 section for IT. Out of the 16 mags there used to be 2 devoted to Linux. Sadly, last week there there was only 1 :( but a few gaps so i went in today hoping to see 2 again but still only 1 :( still some gaps. Then i noticed the sections on either side seem to have crept into the IT section so it's gone from 2/16 about Linux to about 1/10. Not quite such a bad drop as i had first feared. Then i noticed that 2 mags on the top shelf were about Android and another mag was about smart-phones with 4 sections in the mag to cover the 4 main types = they had Android as the number 1 best, then iPhone, then Windows and finally blackberry. So, half the mag about Linux, or 3/4 about unix-based platforms and only 1/4 about Windows. So that added up to 3.5/10 mags about Linux platforms!! Nearly double on a few weeks ago in a shrinking market!! Oh of the remainder of the mags several were dedicated to Photoshop and a few to iSomethings and some too generic to get down to specific OSes or even platforms. Amazing stuff!! Regards from Tom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem reading Word 2003 document
Could not open the file LibO 3.5.7.2 XP pro / SP3 On 2012-11-30 11:26, NoOp wrote: On 11/29/2012 04:05 PM, NoOp wrote: On 11/29/2012 08:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote: Okay, I must be brain-dead. I misread nabble as nobble. Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which I'm having trouble. It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc. ... Opens fine for me in: LO 3.6.3.2 Linux and Windows. LO 3.5.4.2 Linux. Opens in Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (AOO) Linux. However right column is screwed up (blank until page 4). Crashed AOO 3.4.1 Windows, But opened after recovery - right column screwed in Windows version as well. And just loaded up a new LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 Windows: opens fine in that version as well. Recommend that you rename your LO profile and then try. If it works, then you most likely have an issue with your profile. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document fine. Of course you all seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6. On Nov 25, I downloaded the latest version, and it was 3.5.7. Silly me to think that this is the latest version. So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I had all the column issues you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix. Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed. Thanks, Chris On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote: Okay, I must be brain-dead. I misread nabble as nobble. Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which I'm having trouble. It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc. Thanks, all, for the support. Chris Chris I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish. Jay snip -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printed Glossy Magazines
LOL LOL LOL To me a magazine was LIFE, Post, ... they included photographs with their articles; ah, that glorious feeling when just the right image was captured on the silver negative ... then came color prints ... then television ... then color tv ... and now whatever this is called; a glorified typewriter that does all sorts of things, including shutting down whenever it feels like doing so ;-) Ah, remembering how things once were ... simpler. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:46 PM, VA cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: What's a magazine? ;) Virgil From: Tom Davies Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:12 PM To: Users List at Lib O Subject: [libreoffice-users] Printed Glossy Magazines Hi :) My 'local' supermarket, part of a national and possibly international chain, used to have an isle for magazines with 1 section for IT. Out of the 16 mags there used to be 2 devoted to Linux. Sadly, last week there there was only 1 :( but a few gaps so i went in today hoping to see 2 again but still only 1 :( still some gaps. Then i noticed the sections on either side seem to have crept into the IT section so it's gone from 2/16 about Linux to about 1/10. Not quite such a bad drop as i had first feared. Then i noticed that 2 mags on the top shelf were about Android and another mag was about smart-phones with 4 sections in the mag to cover the 4 main types = they had Android as the number 1 best, then iPhone, then Windows and finally blackberry. So, half the mag about Linux, or 3/4 about unix-based platforms and only 1/4 about Windows. So that added up to 3.5/10 mags about Linux platforms!! Nearly double on a few weeks ago in a shrinking market!! Oh of the remainder of the mags several were dedicated to Photoshop and a few to iSomethings and some too generic to get down to specific OSes or even platforms. Amazing stuff!! Regards from Tom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
On 11/29/2012 11:28 PM, Chris Carlson wrote: I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document fine. Of course you all seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6. On Nov 25, I downloaded the latest version, and it was 3.5.7. Silly me to think that this is the latest version. So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I had all the column issues you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix. Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed. Thanks, Chris Chris I suspect it is a regression in 3.5.7 that was fixed in the 3.6 series. Usually these problems are not OS specific but it is usually an important detail to note to run down the problem. Jay On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote: Okay, I must be brain-dead. I misread nabble as nobble. Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which I'm having trouble. It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc. Thanks, all, for the support. Chris Chris I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish. Jay snip -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem reading Word 2003 document
Then I should be able to open it soon when 3.6.4 will be released. Next week??? I will give it a try because I am on XP On 2012-11-30 13:28, Chris Carlson wrote: I find it really frustrating that all of you are opening the document fine. Of course you all seem to be using Linux or LO version 3.6. On Nov 25, I downloaded the latest version, and it was 3.5.7. Silly me to think that this is the latest version. So, I installed 3.6.3.2 (build 58f22d5), and it opened for me, too. I had all the column issues you had, but like you said, it's easy to fix. Apparently, the problem I had has been fixed. Thanks, Chris On 11/29/2012 7:05 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 11/29/2012 11:45 AM, Chris Carlson wrote: Okay, I must be brain-dead. I misread nabble as nobble. Looking at nabble, it's way more than I need if anyone want's to look at the document with which I'm having trouble. It can be downloaded from http://beachware.org/Dec12.doc. Thanks, all, for the support. Chris Chris I had no problems opening the document us LO Version 3.6.3.2 (Build ID: 58f22d5) on Linux Mint. I noticed the pagination may be slightly off but otherwise pictures looked good and apparently in their proper places. The text did not have any funny characters or gibberish. Jay snip -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
