[libreoffice-users] spreadsheet cell date format behaviour failure

2013-05-08 Thread e-letter
Readers,

Please review bug 36175 and confirm (or not) if the behaviour reported
is also observed personally; thanks:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36175#c8

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread e-letter
On 04/05/2013, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Tom,


 On 4 May 2013 18:47, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 That is a very generous offer but i suspect you would have more fun and be
 more useful in other areas of the project!!


 That is your opinion. But I think it is very arrogant of you to decide for
 someone else, where he would have more fun. Also discouraging someone from
 a job that he's willing to take on, is counterproductive.


Agreed.




 You are new to the project and really should keep your options open for a
 bit longer.  Perhaps just become  more familiar with the types of posts
 that do get to this list.  It's an extremely high-traffic list so it's
 going to need a LOT of people.  For the project as a whole i think it
 would
 be better if you could be a moderator for the Devs Mailing List, not the
 Users List!


 How do you come to this conclusion? What makes you think, that he would be
 a good moderator for the dev list (which isn't even in our infrastructure)
 but not for the users list?



If you look at a random selection of typical replies, this is a
common occurrence.



 On the other hand i think Anne and others that have been here a while
 would be perfect for this list


 What makes Anne perfect for this list? I have a very hard time reading (and
 understanding) her posts. But I would never say, that she is (or is not)
 perfect for the moderator job. How you write your posts has nothing to do
 with moderating a message. It is either accepting or rejecting an email
 from someone else for the list. And being able to figure out, if an email
 is spam or not (everything that comes from *mail.ru often is).



Agreed; both these writers often publish gibberish. With such
moderation, spam is likely to increase ;)

 Honestly, I was put off by your reply to RD Vaishnav's generous offer. We
 do need more moderators on the different lists...


Would you please moderate their posts particularly? ;) Please mark
top-post spam: delete

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility LO/MSO

2013-05-08 Thread e-letter
On 07/05/2013, Milos Sramek sramek.mi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 thank you all for your answers. In fact I take part in a larger scale
 testing of interoperability of formats, since open source software is
 currently considered by Slovak administration as and alternative to the
 standard MS stuff. If everything goes really well, there will be a
 transition period when open source (say, LO) and proprietary
 applications will be used in parallel and documents in various formats
 will be interchanged. Therefore, we want to understand the situation and
 prepare a guide (use this feature, avoid that feature), which would help
 in creating documents which can safely be opened by the other tool.

 I am aware of the fact that open standards like OOXML, which are
 more-or-less in hands of only one company (even if it is an ISO
 standard) will always be a problem. Simultaneously, MS support of ODF
 will probably never be perfect. But a state administration does not need
 complex features and formatting - therefore we want to prepare the guide
 which would tell them, what is safe to use.


You may want to review the following guide published by m$:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/differences-between-the-opendocument-text-odt-format-and-the-word-docx-format-HA010355788.aspx



 If this is a bug in LO I will file a bug in its Bugzilla. If it is a bug
 in MS2013, we will ask MS to correct that (there is a guy from Microsoft
 in our team who promised to do that). If they do not correct it, it will
 be a nice argument against using MSO at all.


Could you also ask your m$ guy to ask that m$ publish in public domain
all their bugs? :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc sheet name

2013-05-08 Thread IGraham
Hello and thanks for the reply

Yes that was what i was asking - shame about the negative answer :(
But apparently it can be done with a macro - i'll have a go at that



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi,


On 8 May 2013 08:41, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 04/05/2013, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Tom,
 
 
  On 4 May 2013 18:47, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
  Hi :)
  That is a very generous offer but i suspect you would have more fun and
 be
  more useful in other areas of the project!!
 
 [...]




 Would you please moderate their posts particularly? ;) Please mark
 top-post spam: delete


As a general info:
moderators only receive emails from people who are not subscribed to the
list. If you are subscribed, your message goes right to the list without
being shown to a moderator.
(which I think, is a good thing - I don't want to censor anyones posts).

But I agree, top posting is an annoying thing. ;)

Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Joel Madero wrote on 2013-05-08 01:47:

If QA is included in the call for moderators, fantastic, if not, I'd
open it up as well :) I will maintain admin rights and get familiar with
them but moderation will be needed.


the QA list is outside my scope - I don't even have administrative 
access here, so it was not included in the call for moderators. Of 
course, if you can configure the list, feel free to start such a call. :-)


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] spreadsheet cell date format behaviour failure

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Edmonds

Doesn't happen on my Opensuse LO 3.6

Steve
On 2013-05-08 18:35, e-letter wrote:

Readers,

Please review bug 36175 and confirm (or not) if the behaviour reported
is also observed personally; thanks:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36175#c8




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility LO/MSO

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Welcome back e-letter!  I can get back to my normal role now safely knowing the 
extreme anti-MS points wont be missed
Regards from 

Tom :)  






 From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 7:50
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility LO/MSO
 

snip /


You may want to review the following guide published by m$:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/differences-between-the-opendocument-text-odt-format-and-the-word-docx-format-HA010355788.aspx



 If this is a bug in LO I will file a bug in its Bugzilla. If it is a bug
 in MS2013, we will ask MS to correct that (there is a guy from Microsoft
 in our team who promised to do that). If they do not correct it, it will
 be a nice argument against using MSO at all.


Could you also ask your m$ guy to ask that m$ publish in public domain
all their bugs? :)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] gettextfields

2013-05-08 Thread Vieri
--- On Tue, 5/7/13, Vieri rentor...@yahoo.com wrote:

 --- On Mon, 5/6/13, Andrew Douglas
 Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org
 wrote:
 
  On 05/06/2013 05:21 AM, Vieri wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I have an odt writer document with 2 input text
 fields
  (added with the form designer toolbar). I manually type
 text
  into one of the fields. I copy/pasted a macro to see if
 I
  could grab the text within the input field but haven't
 had
  any luck. This is the test macro in Basic:
   
   Sub EnumerateFields
      vEnum =
  ThisComponent.getTextFields().createEnumeration()
      If Not IsNull(vEnum) Then
        If vEnum.hasMoreElements() Then
          Print OK
        Else
          Print NOT OK
        End If
      End If
   End Sub
   
   If I manually run this macro I get the NOT OK
  message.
   
   What am I doing wrong?
   What is the correct way of getting the text field
  elements?
   
   Thanks
   
   Vieri
   
   
  
  I grabbed these two routines from my test modules
 without
  running them first
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for the reply but I'm still having trouble.
 I'm either way off-course, misusing LO or making a dumb
 rookie mistake.
 
 I copied your macros to my odt document.
 I then did a tools, macros, run macro... and selected the
 Subs I copied.
 If I run EnumerateTextFields then it yields the Finished
 message box (nothing else).
 If I run DisplayMasterFields then it yields the following
 message:
 
 ===Text Field Masters===
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Illustration,Illustration)
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Table,Table)
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Text,Text)
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Drawing,Drawing)
 
 My odt document has 2 input fields in a form.
 
 By the way, if I place a button within my form and configure
 the Mouse button pressed to launch, say,
 EnumerateTextFields then I get the following error message:
 LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 BASIC runtime error. '423'
 getTextFields and it points at the line:
 oEnum = oDoc.getTextFields().createEnumeration()
 
 I'm stuck on something that should be quite simple.
 I'm attaching my odt file hoping that someone can tell me
 what novice mistake I'm making.

Trying to attach the file again but it seems that the mailing list strips it 
out.

Thanks,

Vieri
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Moderation in this case means unblocking messages that have been automatically 
blocked.  It's quite the opposite of the normal meaning i think.  Quite a lot 
of people are needed.  

So far the only ones i have seen were blocked due to the person not subscribing 
to the list before posting.  It should be fairly easy to 
1.  copypaste a standard message back to them to ask them to subscribe
2.  Unblock the message so that it does get to the list.  
3.  Move on to next message.  

It may help to be intelligent enough and have good enough understanding of 
English in order to spot and maybe solve problems but so far we haven't seen 
any of that.  Well, except one post was in non-English.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
To: LibreOffice users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 2:59
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators
 

anne-ology wrote:
         Just one question: haven't you already made 2 others moderators for
 this list? -
            how many are needed or does each do some specific job?



Everything in moderation, including moderation.  ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I still haven't read the Faq yet.  Hopefully i might get started on all this 
over the weekend.  


Just checking my first impressions are right.  So, most of the blocked messages 
are from people that are not subscribed?  Those fall into 3 main categories
1.  Spam

2.  Junk
3.  Legitimate post (i hesitate to use the term serious given the nature of 
many legitimate posts to this list)

For 1  2 we do nothing and just let the message get dealt with automatically.  
It's only the  3rd case that  we unblock them.  


This looks a lot more trivial than i was expecting.  The only issues might be 
the volume of traffic, how we co-ordinate on the moderators mailing list and 
how complex the unblocking process is.  

Regards from 

Tom :)  






 From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl

snip /


 in principle each does the same: look if a mail to the list, from 
some address not subscribed, if spam, junk, or a serious post. And in 
the latter case only, make sure that it reaches the list.

         With all due thanks,

You're welcome.
Cheers

Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-users] gettextfields

2013-05-08 Thread mcmurchy1917-libreoffice
I've created two Text Boxes in a form in a writer document.

I can iterate over them like this grabbing the text as I go 

Sub EnumerateFields

oDoc = ThisComponent
oDrawPage = oDoc.DrawPage
oForm = oDrawPage.Forms.GetByIndex(0)
For i = 0 To oForm.getCount()-1
   x = oForm.getByIndex(i)
   Print x.getName()   :   x.Text
Next
  
End Sub


Does this help in anyway?

Iain


On Wednesday 08 May 2013 01:50:02 Vieri wrote:
 --- On Tue, 5/7/13, Vieri rentor...@yahoo.com wrote:
  --- On Mon, 5/6/13, Andrew Douglas
  Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org
  
  wrote:
   On 05/06/2013 05:21 AM, Vieri wrote:
Hi,

I have an odt writer document with 2 input text
  
  fields
  
   (added with the form designer toolbar). I manually type
  
  text
  
   into one of the fields. I copy/pasted a macro to see if
  
  I
  
   could grab the text within the input field but haven't
  
  had
  
   any luck. This is the test macro in Basic:
Sub EnumerateFields
   
   vEnum =
   
   ThisComponent.getTextFields().createEnumeration()
   
   If Not IsNull(vEnum) Then
 If vEnum.hasMoreElements() Then
   Print OK
 Else
   Print NOT OK
 End If
   End If
   
End Sub

If I manually run this macro I get the NOT OK
   
   message.
   
What am I doing wrong?
What is the correct way of getting the text field
   
   elements?
   
Thanks

Vieri
   
   I grabbed these two routines from my test modules
  
  without
  
   running them first
  
  Hi,
  
  Thanks for the reply but I'm still having trouble.
  I'm either way off-course, misusing LO or making a dumb
  rookie mistake.
  
  I copied your macros to my odt document.
  I then did a tools, macros, run macro... and selected the
  Subs I copied.
  If I run EnumerateTextFields then it yields the Finished
  message box (nothing else).
  If I run DisplayMasterFields then it yields the following
  message:
  
  ===Text Field Masters===
  (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Illustration,Illustration)
  (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Table,Table)
  (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Text,Text)
  (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Drawing,Drawing)
  
  My odt document has 2 input fields in a form.
  
  By the way, if I place a button within my form and configure
  the Mouse button pressed to launch, say,
  EnumerateTextFields then I get the following error message:
  LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 BASIC runtime error. '423'
  getTextFields and it points at the line:
  oEnum = oDoc.getTextFields().createEnumeration()
  
  I'm stuck on something that should be quite simple.
  I'm attaching my odt file hoping that someone can tell me
  what novice mistake I'm making.
 
 Trying to attach the file again but it seems that the mailing list strips it
 out.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Vieri

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You 2 have kinda missed the boat on that one.  Now you would need to convince 
all handset and mobile device makers, plus all office workers everywhere to 
revert back to a system that almost no-one feels comfortable with.  Even 
in-line posts often freak people out.  If you want to make that your mission 
before accepting people into LibreOffice then you have a big challenge ahead of 
you.  Alternatively we could just make these lists unable to cope with any new 
people and make new people feel very unwelcome.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com
To: e-letter inp...@gmail.com 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 9:24
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators
 

Hi,


On 8 May 2013 08:41, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 04/05/2013, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Tom,
 
 
  On 4 May 2013 18:47, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
  Hi :)
  That is a very generous offer but i suspect you would have more fun and
 be
  more useful in other areas of the project!!
 
 [...]




 Would you please moderate their posts particularly? ;) Please mark
 top-post spam: delete


As a general info:
moderators only receive emails from people who are not subscribed to the
list. If you are subscribed, your message goes right to the list without
being shown to a moderator.
(which I think, is a good thing - I don't want to censor anyones posts).

But I agree, top posting is an annoying thing. ;)

Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-users] gettextfields

2013-05-08 Thread Vieri
Thanks!

Making progress... finally.

Your code actually retrieved the text within my first text box (which is at 
least something!) but then it fails with the error:

LibreOffice 4.0.2.2
BASIC runtime error.
'423'
Text

it points to line:
 Print x.getName()   :   x.Text

It may be choking on a formatted field within the document.

Just out of curiosity, how did you know that you had to use 
ThisComponent.DrawPage.Forms? As a novice, I find the documentation to be quite 
confusing and a supposedly simple task such as getting text field values 
seems to be quite difficult. I mean, I found examples on the net and they all 
start with something like:

  vEnum = ThisComponent.getTextFields().createEnumeration()
  If Not IsNull(vEnum) Then
Do While vEnum.hasMoreElements()
  vVal = vEnum.nextElement()

but then I either don't know how to continue or the examples I found on the net 
don't work (maybe outdated OO or LO versions).

BTW, is there an IDE that can auto-complete Basic code (eg. vVal.??? as in the 
example above).

Thanks,

Vieri

--- On Wed, 5/8/13, mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk 
mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I've created two Text Boxes in a
 form in a writer document.
 
 I can iterate over them like this grabbing the text as I go
 
 
 Sub EnumerateFields
 
     oDoc = ThisComponent
     oDrawPage = oDoc.DrawPage
     oForm = oDrawPage.Forms.GetByIndex(0)
       For i = 0 To oForm.getCount()-1
          x =
 oForm.getByIndex(i)
          Print
 x.getName()   :   x.Text
       Next
   
 End Sub
 
 
 Does this help in anyway?
 
 Iain
 
 
 On Wednesday 08 May 2013 01:50:02 Vieri wrote:
  --- On Tue, 5/7/13, Vieri rentor...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
   --- On Mon, 5/6/13, Andrew Douglas
   Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org
   
   wrote:
On 05/06/2013 05:21 AM, Vieri wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have an odt writer document with 2
 input text
   
   fields
   
(added with the form designer toolbar). I
 manually type
   
   text
   
into one of the fields. I copy/pasted a macro
 to see if
   
   I
   
could grab the text within the input field
 but haven't
   
   had
   
any luck. This is the test macro in Basic:
 Sub EnumerateFields

    vEnum =

   
 ThisComponent.getTextFields().createEnumeration()

    If Not IsNull(vEnum) Then
      If
 vEnum.hasMoreElements() Then
        Print OK
      Else
        Print NOT
 OK
      End If
    End If

 End Sub
 
 If I manually run this macro I get the
 NOT OK

message.

 What am I doing wrong?
 What is the correct way of getting the
 text field

elements?

 Thanks
 
 Vieri

I grabbed these two routines from my test
 modules
   
   without
   
running them first
   
   Hi,
   
   Thanks for the reply but I'm still having
 trouble.
   I'm either way off-course, misusing LO or making a
 dumb
   rookie mistake.
   
   I copied your macros to my odt document.
   I then did a tools, macros, run macro... and
 selected the
   Subs I copied.
   If I run EnumerateTextFields then it yields the
 Finished
   message box (nothing else).
   If I run DisplayMasterFields then it yields the
 following
   message:
   
   ===Text Field Masters===
  
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Illustration,Illustration)
  
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Table,Table)
  
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Text,Text)
  
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Drawing,Drawing)
   
   My odt document has 2 input fields in a form.
   
   By the way, if I place a button within my form and
 configure
   the Mouse button pressed to launch, say,
   EnumerateTextFields then I get the following error
 message:
   LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 BASIC runtime error. '423'
   getTextFields and it points at the line:
   oEnum =
 oDoc.getTextFields().createEnumeration()
   
   I'm stuck on something that should be quite
 simple.
   I'm attaching my odt file hoping that someone can
 tell me
   what novice mistake I'm making.
  
  Trying to attach the file again but it seems that the
 mailing list strips it
  out.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Vieri
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] gettextfields

2013-05-08 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Vieri ,

pleasqe find some working code below

hope it helps:

so every field has a Placeholder property  who correspondents with the 
data who commes here from a beamer


Dim aTextFields as Object
Dim i as integer
Dim CurElement as Object
'xray.xray oDocument
aTextfields = oDocument.getTextfields.CreateEnumeration
While aTextFields.hasmoreElements'
CurElement = aTextField.NextElement

If 
CurElement.PropertySetInfo.hasPropertybyName(PlaceHolder)Then

If (CurElement.PlaceHolder = Lezers) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sLezers)
ElseIf (CurElement.PlaceHolder = Mag) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sNaam)
ElseIf (CurElement.PlaceHolder = Half) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sHalf)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = Voll) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sVoll)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = pr1) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sPr1)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = prH) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sPrH)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = prV) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sPrV)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = advprijs1) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sadvprijs1)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = ipvprijs1) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sipvprijs1)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = 1jaargang) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(s1jaargang)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = btw6_1) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sbtw6_1)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = totaal1) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(stotaal1)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = advprijs2) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sadvprijs2)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = ipvprijs2) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sipvprijs2)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = 2jaargang) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(s2jaargang)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = btw6_2) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(sbtw6_2)
Elseif (CurElement.PlaceHolder = totaal2) Then
CurElement.getAnchor.setString(stotaal2)


Endif
End if
Wend
Endif


Thanks!

Making progress... finally.

Your code actually retrieved the text within my first text box (which is at 
least something!) but then it fails with the error:

LibreOffice 4.0.2.2
BASIC runtime error.
'423'
Text

it points to line:
  Print x.getName()   :   x.Text

It may be choking on a formatted field within the document.

Just out of curiosity, how did you know that you had to use ThisComponent.DrawPage.Forms? 
As a novice, I find the documentation to be quite confusing and a supposedly 
simple task such as getting text field values seems to be quite difficult. I 
mean, I found examples on the net and they all start with something like:

   vEnum = ThisComponent.getTextFields().createEnumeration()
   If Not IsNull(vEnum) Then
 Do While vEnum.hasMoreElements()
   vVal = vEnum.nextElement()

but then I either don't know how to continue or the examples I found on the net 
don't work (maybe outdated OO or LO versions).

BTW, is there an IDE that can auto-complete Basic code (eg. vVal.??? as in the 
example above).

Thanks,

Vieri

--- On Wed, 5/8/13, mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk 
mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


I've created two Text Boxes in a
form in a writer document.

I can iterate over them like this grabbing the text as I go


Sub EnumerateFields

 oDoc = ThisComponent
 oDrawPage = oDoc.DrawPage
 oForm = oDrawPage.Forms.GetByIndex(0)
   For i = 0 To oForm.getCount()-1
  x =
oForm.getByIndex(i)
  Print
x.getName()   :   x.Text
   Next
   
End Sub



Does this help in anyway?

Iain


On Wednesday 08 May 2013 01:50:02 Vieri wrote:

--- On Tue, 5/7/13, Vieri rentor...@yahoo.com

wrote:

--- On Mon, 5/6/13, Andrew Douglas
Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org

wrote:

On 05/06/2013 05:21 AM, Vieri wrote:

Hi,

I have an odt writer document with 2

input text

fields


(added with the form designer toolbar). I

manually type

text


into one of the fields. I copy/pasted a macro

to see if

I


could grab the text within the input field

but haven't

had


any luck. This is the test macro in Basic:

Sub EnumerateFields

 vEnum =



ThisComponent.getTextFields().createEnumeration()

 If Not IsNull(vEnum) Then
   If

vEnum.hasMoreElements() Then

 Print OK
   Else
 Print NOT

OK

   End If
  

Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Tom Davies wrote on 2013-05-08 11:07:


Just checking my first impressions are right.  So, most of the blocked
messages are from people that are not subscribed?  Those fall into 3
main categories
1.  Spam
2.  Junk
3.  Legitimate post (i hesitate to use the term serious given the
nature of many legitimate posts to this list)

For 1  2 we do nothing and just let the message get dealt with
automatically.  It's only the 3rd case that we unblock them.

This looks a lot more trivial than i was expecting.


exactly - it's fairly easy. ;-)

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] gettextfields

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You might find it well worth buying the 3rd party guide produced by Andrew 
Pitonyak.  This link helps get you there
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Programmers

Andrew works hard on this list and in the Docs Team to help people with 
bitsbobs of code as do other people on this list but the book brings it all 
together rather well.  It might be a good investment.  I'm not sure how badly 
it is affected by alleged changes in the newer version of LO Basic being used 
by 4.0.0 and beyond but i suspect the book gives such a good overview that 
changes in the details are easy to figure out.  

Regards from 
Tom )  







 From: Vieri rentor...@yahoo.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org; mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 12:16
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] gettextfields
 

Thanks!

Making progress... finally.

Your code actually retrieved the text within my first text box (which is at 
least something!) but then it fails with the error:

LibreOffice 4.0.2.2
BASIC runtime error.
'423'
Text

it points to line:
Print x.getName()   :   x.Text

It may be choking on a formatted field within the document.

Just out of curiosity, how did you know that you had to use 
ThisComponent.DrawPage.Forms? As a novice, I find the documentation to be 
quite confusing and a supposedly simple task such as getting text field 
values seems to be quite difficult. I mean, I found examples on the net and 
they all start with something like:

  vEnum = ThisComponent.getTextFields().createEnumeration()
  If Not IsNull(vEnum) Then
    Do While vEnum.hasMoreElements()
      vVal = vEnum.nextElement()

but then I either don't know how to continue or the examples I found on the 
net don't work (maybe outdated OO or LO versions).

BTW, is there an IDE that can auto-complete Basic code (eg. vVal.??? as in the 
example above).

Thanks,

Vieri

--- On Wed, 5/8/13, mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk 
mcmurchy1917-libreoff...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I've created two Text Boxes in a
 form in a writer document.
 
 I can iterate over them like this grabbing the text as I go
 
 
 Sub EnumerateFields
 
     oDoc = ThisComponent
     oDrawPage = oDoc.DrawPage
     oForm = oDrawPage.Forms.GetByIndex(0)
       For i = 0 To oForm.getCount()-1
          x =
 oForm.getByIndex(i)
          Print
 x.getName()   :   x.Text
       Next
   
 End Sub
 
 
 Does this help in anyway?
 
 Iain
 
 
 On Wednesday 08 May 2013 01:50:02 Vieri wrote:
  --- On Tue, 5/7/13, Vieri rentor...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
   --- On Mon, 5/6/13, Andrew Douglas
   Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org
   
   wrote:
On 05/06/2013 05:21 AM, Vieri wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have an odt writer document with 2
 input text
   
   fields
   
(added with the form designer toolbar). I
 manually type
   
   text
   
into one of the fields. I copy/pasted a macro
 to see if
   
   I
   
could grab the text within the input field
 but haven't
   
   had
   
any luck. This is the test macro in Basic:
 Sub EnumerateFields

    vEnum =

   
 ThisComponent.getTextFields().createEnumeration()

    If Not IsNull(vEnum) Then
      If
 vEnum.hasMoreElements() Then
        Print OK
      Else
        Print NOT
 OK
      End If
    End If

 End Sub
 
 If I manually run this macro I get the
 NOT OK

message.

 What am I doing wrong?
 What is the correct way of getting the
 text field

elements?

 Thanks
 
 Vieri

I grabbed these two routines from my test
 modules
   
   without
   
running them first
   
   Hi,
   
   Thanks for the reply but I'm still having
 trouble.
   I'm either way off-course, misusing LO or making a
 dumb
   rookie mistake.
   
   I copied your macros to my odt document.
   I then did a tools, macros, run macro... and
 selected the
   Subs I copied.
   If I run EnumerateTextFields then it yields the
 Finished
   message box (nothing else).
   If I run DisplayMasterFields then it yields the
 following
   message:
   
   ===Text Field Masters===
  
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Illustration,Illustration)
  
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Table,Table)
  
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Text,Text)
  
 (com.sun.star.text.fieldmaster.SetExpression.Drawing,Drawing)
   
   My odt document has 2 input fields in a form.
   
   By the way, if I place a button within my form and
 configure
   the Mouse button pressed to launch, say,
   EnumerateTextFields then I get the following error
 message:
   LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 BASIC runtime error. '423'
   getTextFields and it points at the line:
   oEnum =
 oDoc.getTextFields().createEnumeration()
   
   I'm stuck on something that should be quite
 simple.
   I'm attaching my odt file hoping that someone can
 tell me
   what novice mistake I'm making.
  
  Trying 

[libreoffice-users] POST data to URL

2013-05-08 Thread Vieri
Hi,

I'm looking for a way to post text data I get from a text field within a writer 
odt document.

My macro looks like this:


  sURL = https://myserver/webservice/index.php;
  sBody = param1=  stextfield1


  oInput = Post(sURL, sBody)



Function Post(sURL As String, sBody As String) As Variant
  oUCB = CreateUnoService(com.sun.star.ucb.UniversalContentBroker)
  oId = oUCB.createContentIdentifier(sURL)
  oContent = oUCB.queryContent(oId)
  
  oDataSink = CreateUnoListener(XDataSink_, _
  com.sun.star.io.XActiveDataSink)
  
  oCommandEnv = CreateUnoListener(XCommandEnv_, _
  com.sun.star.ucb.XCommandEnvironment)
  
  oBodyStream = CreateUnoService(com.sun.star.io.Pipe)
  oTextOutput = CreateUnoService(com.sun.star.io.TextOutputStream)
  oTextOutput.setOutputStream(oBodyStream)
  oTextOutput.writeString(sBody)
  oTextOUtput.closeOutput()
  
  oPostArgs = CreateUnoStruct(com.sun.star.ucb.PostCommandArgument2)
  oPostArgs.Source = oBodyStream
  oPostArgs.Sink = oDataSink
  
  aCommand = CreateUnoStruct(com.sun.star.ucb.Command)
  aCommand.Name = post
  aCommand.Argument = oPostArgs
  
  oRet = oContent.execute(aCommand, -1, oCommandEnv)
  
  oInput = oDataSink.getInputStream()
  Post = oInput
End Function
 
 
 
Dim oStream As Variant
Function XDataSink_setInputStream(oLocStream As Variant)
  oStream = oLocStream
End Function
Function XDataSink_getInputStream() As Variant
  XDataSink_getInputStream = oStream
End Function
 
 
Function XCommandEnv_getInteractionHandler()' As Variant
  XCommandEnv_getInteractionHandler = CreateUnoListener(_
  XInteractionHandle_, com.sun.star.task.XInteractionHandler)
End Function
Function XCommandEnv_getProgressHandler()' As Variant
  XCommandEnv_getProgressHandler = CreateUnoListener(_
  XProgressHandle_, com.sun.star.ucb.XProgressHandler)
End Function
 
 
Function XInteractionHandle_handle(oRequest)
End Function
 
Function XProgressHandle_push(nStatus)
End Function
Function XProgressHandle_update(nStatus)
End Function
Function XProgressHandle_pop()
End Function


However, my PHP script doesn't receive the 'param1' variable despite the fact 
that it does receive a POST request.

What am I doing wrong?
Are there other methods to do this?

Thanks,

Vieri


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Re: [libreoffice-users] spreadsheet cell date format behaviour failure

2013-05-08 Thread Dries Feys
confirmed on win7 64 bit
Version 4.0.2.2 (Build ID: 4c82dcdd6efcd48b1d8bba66bfe1989deee49c3)

Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards,

DRIES FEYS
CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer


On 8 May 2013 10:24, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
 Doesn't happen on my Opensuse LO 3.6

 Steve

 On 2013-05-08 18:35, e-letter wrote:

 Readers,

 Please review bug 36175 and confirm (or not) if the behaviour reported
 is also observed personally; thanks:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36175#c8



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[libreoffice-users] Arabesque font that is really English

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I have a good Arabic font but it's in Arabic.  I've got to get a poster 
together for an Arabic ladies coffee morning and having trouble finding a font 
that looks vaguely Arabic but is in fact English.  DOes anyone know of a good 
free one?
Regards from 

Tom :)  

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Arabesque font that is really English

2013-05-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
LOL...

Have a look at Rage Italic ( Ron Zwingelberg, ttf from Microsoft), or Gabriola 
Regular (J. Hudson, ttf from Microsoft) you should have both on a Windows PC 
with MS Office installed.

Stuart

From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:03 AM
To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster; Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Arabesque font that is really English

Hi :)
I have a good Arabic font but it's in Arabic.  I've got to get a poster 
together for an Arabic ladies coffee morning and having trouble finding a font 
that looks vaguely Arabic but is in fact English.  DOes anyone know of a good 
free one?
Regards from

Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread anne-ology
   top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post
... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post
...
   one requires re-reading the post, before getting to the new bit;
  one allows the new bit to be read - if one needs refreshing
on what's gone before, then merely scroll down.

   Why do some folks want to complicate things which are really quite
simple;
   oh, windows could be rolled up  down in a car whenever;
   then electric windows made it impossible to do so unless the
engine was running  ;-)



On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
 You 2 have kinda missed the boat on that one.  Now you would need to
 convince all handset and mobile device makers, plus all office workers
 everywhere to revert back to a system that almost no-one feels comfortable
 with.  Even in-line posts often freak people out.  If you want to make that
 your mission before accepting people into LibreOffice then you have a big
 challenge ahead of you.  Alternatively we could just make these lists
 unable to cope with any new people and make new people feel very unwelcome.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
  From: Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com
 To: e-letter inp...@gmail.com
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 9:24
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators
 
 
 Hi,
 
 
 On 8 May 2013 08:41, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 04/05/2013, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi Tom,
  
  
   On 4 May 2013 18:47, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  
   Hi :)
   That is a very generous offer but i suspect you would have more fun
 and
  be
   more useful in other areas of the project!!
  
  [...]
 
 
 
 
  Would you please moderate their posts particularly? ;) Please mark
  top-post spam: delete
 
 
 As a general info:
 moderators only receive emails from people who are not subscribed to the
 list. If you are subscribed, your message goes right to the list without
 being shown to a moderator.
 (which I think, is a good thing - I don't want to censor anyones posts).
 
 But I agree, top posting is an annoying thing. ;)
 
 Sigrid
 


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread V Stuart Foote

+1
From: anne-ology [lagin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:34 AM

   top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post
... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post
...
   one requires re-reading the post, before getting to the new bit;
  one allows the new bit to be read - if one needs refreshing
on what's gone before, then merely scroll down.

   Why do some folks want to complicate things which are really quite
simple;
   oh, windows could be rolled up  down in a car whenever;
   then electric windows made it impossible to do so unless the
engine was running  ;-)

+2

;-)
Stuart


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread anne-ology
   +2  ???  ;-)

   2 bits, 4 bits, 6 bits, a dollar ... all for *___*, stand up and
holler!
   well, my mind wanders  ;-)



On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:46 AM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.eduwrote:


 +1
 From: anne-ology [lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:34 AM
 
top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post
 ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post
 ...
one requires re-reading the post, before getting to the new
 bit;
   one allows the new bit to be read - if one needs refreshing
 on what's gone before, then merely scroll down.
 
Why do some folks want to complicate things which are really quite
 simple;
oh, windows could be rolled up  down in a car whenever;
then electric windows made it impossible to do so unless
 the
 engine was running  ;-)

 +2

 ;-)
 Stuart



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Felmon Davis

On Wed, 8 May 2013, V Stuart Foote wrote:



   +1
From: anne-ology [lagin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:34 AM


  top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post
... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post
...
  one requires re-reading the post, before getting to the new bit;
 one allows the new bit to be read - if one needs refreshing
on what's gone before, then merely scroll down.

  Why do some folks want to complicate things which are really quite
simple;
  oh, windows could be rolled up  down in a car whenever;
  then electric windows made it impossible to do so unless the
engine was running  ;-)


   +2

;-)
Stuart


-2 (or however many)

many (all?) of us read several posts so you end up with a bunch of 
nearly meaningless opening lines; why read further? with 
bottom-posting, you see right away what the issue was, which motivates 
further reading.


I know this is a perennial disagreement; perhaps top-posters might at 
least consider pruning the thread so it's easier to know what they are 
talking about.


F.

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[libreoffice-users] Testing to see if this message reaches you

2013-05-08 Thread Sean O'Connell
Hello,

I am just first testing to see if this email will reach you so that i can
ask for help in libreoffice

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Arabesque font that is really English

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Not quite.  It has to be readable as English

Just with a style that looks vaguely Arabic or reminiscent of Arabic swirls.  

Actually Stuart's idea inspired me so i jumped on a Windows machine and got 
something that is quite nice and is good enough.  It's only for a coffee 
morning so i'm happy to run with what i have already.  It might be good to have 
something better for the future though! :)  
Regards from 
Tom :)  







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To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 15:46
Subject: Re: Arabesque font that is really English
 


On 05/08/2013 09:03 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I have a good Arabic font but it's in Arabic.  I've got to get a poster 
together for an Arabic ladies coffee morning and having trouble finding a font 
that looks vaguely Arabic but is in fact English.  DOes anyone know of a good 
free one?
Regards from  Tom :)  Many non-English fonts keep the Latin letters for the 
initialglyphs.  What you are looking for is a font that does not have any Latin 
glyphs?

When I have a few minutes, I will see if I have one.

Any particular style in mind?  Any dialect?
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Testing to see if this message reaches you

2013-05-08 Thread James Knott

Sean O'Connell wrote:

I am just first testing to see if this email will reach you so that i can
ask for help in libreoffice


Sorry, didn't see it.  ;-)


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Arabesque font that is really English

2013-05-08 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 05/08/2013 09:03 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I have a good Arabic font but it's in Arabic.  I've got to get a poster 
together for an Arabic ladies coffee morning and having trouble finding a font 
that looks vaguely Arabic but is in fact English.  DOes anyone know of a good 
free one?
Regards from

Tom :)


Many non-English fonts keep the Latin letters for the initialglyphs.  
What you are looking for is a font that does not have any Latin glyphs?


When I have a few minutes, I will see if I have one.

Any particular style in mind?  Any dialect?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Dries Feys
All,

Yes, I'm a top poster. Simply because I use gmail, and I don't want to
click  scroll to the bottom of the message every time I respond to a
message. But yes, I read everything in this thread, as it shows as
bottom posting in my compose window.

Sorry for the inconvenience...

Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards,

DRIES FEYS
CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer


On 8 May 2013 16:44, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:
 On Wed, 8 May 2013, V Stuart Foote wrote:


 +1
 From: anne-ology [lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:34 AM


   top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post
 ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post
 ...
   one requires re-reading the post, before getting to the new
 bit;
  one allows the new bit to be read - if one needs refreshing
 on what's gone before, then merely scroll down.

   Why do some folks want to complicate things which are really quite
 simple;
   oh, windows could be rolled up  down in a car whenever;
   then electric windows made it impossible to do so unless
 the
 engine was running  ;-)


+2

 ;-)
 Stuart


 -2 (or however many)

 many (all?) of us read several posts so you end up with a bunch of nearly
 meaningless opening lines; why read further? with bottom-posting, you see
 right away what the issue was, which motivates further reading.

 I know this is a perennial disagreement; perhaps top-posters might at least
 consider pruning the thread so it's easier to know what they are talking
 about.

 F.

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread V Stuart Foote
Gosh @anne-ology,

Formatting of your posts are always sooo far out there, i.e. off standards, I 
figured to give you a nod with the top posted and right justified +1, and a 
centered +2--although if I'd been thinking sharply enough I'd have made it a 
+2¢--because I love the car window analogy.

Stuart



From: anne-ology [lagin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:32 AM
To: V Stuart Foote
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

   +2  ???  ;-)

   2 bits, 4 bits, 6 bits, a dollar ... all for ___, stand up and holler!
   well, my mind wanders  ;-)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Felmon Davis

On Wed, 8 May 2013, Dries Feys wrote:


All,

Yes, I'm a top poster. Simply because I use gmail, and I don't want to
click  scroll to the bottom of the message every time I respond to a
message. But yes, I read everything in this thread, as it shows as
bottom posting in my compose window.

Sorry for the inconvenience...


it is inconvenient but so is the way gmail sets things up; I think 
some other email clients do the same.


if I were using gmail, I also would probably top-post because it's one 
degree of inconvenience against another.


I think trying to _write_ bottom-posting when the email program 
resists it is more difficult than trying to _read_ bottom-posting.


(I'm not a dogmatist; I'm a pragmatist.)


Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards,


mit herzlichen grüssen!

F.



DRIES FEYS
CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer


On 8 May 2013 16:44, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:

On Wed, 8 May 2013, V Stuart Foote wrote:



+1
From: anne-ology [lagin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:34 AM



  top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post
... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post
...
  one requires re-reading the post, before getting to the new
bit;
 one allows the new bit to be read - if one needs refreshing
on what's gone before, then merely scroll down.

  Why do some folks want to complicate things which are really quite
simple;
  oh, windows could be rolled up  down in a car whenever;
  then electric windows made it impossible to do so unless
the
engine was running  ;-)



   +2

;-)
Stuart



-2 (or however many)

many (all?) of us read several posts so you end up with a bunch of nearly
meaningless opening lines; why read further? with bottom-posting, you see
right away what the issue was, which motivates further reading.

I know this is a perennial disagreement; perhaps top-posters might at least
consider pruning the thread so it's easier to know what they are talking
about.

F.

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread V Stuart Foote

Top post, bottom post, interspersed --- it is all pretty much the same in the 
end for delivering and exchanging information. 

But what REALLY makes a difference in effort for recipients and for following 
the thread is simply trimming the response--by hand, or allowing your favorite 
news reader or email client to do it.

The need is especially notable if you review threads on Nabble archive--this 
thread for example: 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Seeking-for-list-moderators-tp4053736.html

Stuart 

From: felmon davis [moelmoel2...@gmail.com] on behalf of Felmon Davis 
[dav...@union.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:04 AM
On Wed, 8 May 2013, Dries Feys wrote:

 All,

 Yes, I'm a top poster. Simply because I use gmail, and I don't want to
 click  scroll to the bottom of the message every time I respond to a
 message. But yes, I read everything in this thread, as it shows as
 bottom posting in my compose window.

 Sorry for the inconvenience...

it is inconvenient but so is the way gmail sets things up; I think
some other email clients do the same.

if I were using gmail, I also would probably top-post because it's one
degree of inconvenience against another.

I think trying to _write_ bottom-posting when the email program
resists it is more difficult than trying to _read_ bottom-posting.

(I'm not a dogmatist; I'm a pragmatist.)

 Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards,

mit herzlichen grüssen!

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Arabesque font that is really English

2013-05-08 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


That is a lot different than Arabic fonts.

Well, I miss understood you email
I just sent you a link to a zip file of all of true Arabic fonts I had - 
182 files.


Well if you want swirls and such, it sounds like a brush or 
calligraphy style.


On 05/08/2013 10:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Not quite.  It has to be readable as English

Just with a style that looks vaguely Arabic or reminiscent of Arabic swirls.

Actually Stuart's idea inspired me so i jumped on a Windows machine and got 
something that is quite nice and is good enough.  It's only for a coffee 
morning so i'm happy to run with what i have already.  It might be good to have 
something better for the future though! :)
Regards from
Tom :)








From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 15:46
Subject: Re: Arabesque font that is really English



On 05/08/2013 09:03 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

I have a good Arabic font but it's in Arabic.  I've got to get a poster 
together for an Arabic ladies coffee morning and having trouble finding a font 
that looks vaguely Arabic but is in fact English.  DOes anyone know of a good 
free one?
Regards from  Tom :)  Many non-English fonts keep the Latin letters for the 
initialglyphs.  What you are looking for is a font that does not have any Latin 
glyphs?

When I have a few minutes, I will see if I have one.

Any particular style in mind?  Any dialect?






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[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Arabesque font that is really English

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks :D  I already have a true Arabic font that is actually the kinda default 
one in some country, i think either Saudi or the USA but possibly India.  I'm 
never completely sure where anyone is.  

However it's going to be great having different fonts to use in posters and 
such.  

I've made quite a nice poster this time.  Next time it's going to be easier to 
be better.  

Thanks all!!
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 16:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Arabesque font that is really English
 


That is a lot different than Arabic fonts.

Well, I miss understood you email
I just sent you a link to a zip file of all of true Arabic fonts I had - 
182 files.

Well if you want swirls and such, it sounds like a brush or 
calligraphy style.

On 05/08/2013 10:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Not quite.  It has to be readable as English

 Just with a style that looks vaguely Arabic or reminiscent of Arabic swirls.

 Actually Stuart's idea inspired me so i jumped on a Windows machine and got 
 something that is quite nice and is good enough.  It's only for a coffee 
 morning so i'm happy to run with what i have already.  It might be good to 
 have something better for the future though! :)
 Regards from
 Tom :)






 
 From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
 To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 Cc: Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org
 Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 15:46
 Subject: Re: Arabesque font that is really English



 On 05/08/2013 09:03 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 I have a good Arabic font but it's in Arabic.  I've got to get a poster 
 together for an Arabic ladies coffee morning and having trouble finding a 
 font that looks vaguely Arabic but is in fact English.  DOes anyone know of 
 a good free one?
 Regards from  Tom :)  Many non-English fonts keep the Latin letters for the 
 initialglyphs.  What you are looking for is a font that does not have any 
 Latin glyphs?
 When I have a few minutes, I will see if I have one.

 Any particular style in mind?  Any dialect?





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[libreoffice-users] Testing again

2013-05-08 Thread Sean O'Connell
Hello,

testing to see if you received this email.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Testing again

2013-05-08 Thread Kieran Peckett
Yes - it got through both times, don't worry (James wouldn't have replied
if he hadn't received it - he probably thought that you wouldn't fall for
it)


On 8 May 2013 18:10, Sean O'Connell seanoconnel...@gmail.com wrote:

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 testing to see if you received this email.

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[libreoffice-users] Database Help: reiterating report header

2013-05-08 Thread Sean O'Connell
Hello,

I'm having trouble with my database report: i can't seem to only have one
header (field) on each page without repetition on every record (there are
like 10 headers(fields) in one page).

For clarification and your help, please see the attachment of my database.
It's in the location:
Database- MusicStudents
Reports- AverageCostLesson

Thank you,

Sean

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Testing again

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
First time it got through to the moderators list and had to be forwarded to 
here, i think.  2nd time it got straight through, i think.  I'm not completely 
clear about what happened there tbh but definitely one attempt got to the 
moderators to begin with.  

Seems to be sorted now :)  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Kieran Peckett crazyske...@gmail.com
To: Sean O'Connell seanoconnel...@gmail.com 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 18:15
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Testing again
 

Yes - it got through both times, don't worry (James wouldn't have replied
if he hadn't received it - he probably thought that you wouldn't fall for
it)


On 8 May 2013 18:10, Sean O'Connell seanoconnel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 testing to see if you received this email.

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Re: [Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Arabesque font that is really English

2013-05-08 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


You always know where you can get specialty fonts.
One day I will made a set of DVDs and see about sending you a set.
Maybe a flash drive.

Nautilus tells me I have
230,730 items totaling 16.0 GB
in my font folders
[not including my Adobe font library folder]

There are some duplicates and once in a while I work on removing them.


On 05/08/2013 12:10 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks :D  I already have a true Arabic font that is actually the kinda default 
one in some country, i think either Saudi or the USA but possibly India.  I'm 
never completely sure where anyone is.

However it's going to be great having different fonts to use in posters and 
such.

I've made quite a nice poster this time.  Next time it's going to be easier to 
be better.

Thanks all!!
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 16:28
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Arabesque font that is really English



That is a lot different than Arabic fonts.

Well, I miss understood you email
I just sent you a link to a zip file of all of true Arabic fonts I had -
182 files.

Well if you want swirls and such, it sounds like a brush or
calligraphy style.

On 05/08/2013 10:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Not quite.  It has to be readable as English

Just with a style that looks vaguely Arabic or reminiscent of Arabic swirls.

Actually Stuart's idea inspired me so i jumped on a Windows machine and got 
something that is quite nice and is good enough.  It's only for a coffee 
morning so i'm happy to run with what i have already.  It might be good to have 
something better for the future though! :)
Regards from
Tom :)








From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org Users@Global.LibreOffice.Org
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 15:46
Subject: Re: Arabesque font that is really English



On 05/08/2013 09:03 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

I have a good Arabic font but it's in Arabic.  I've got to get a poster 
together for an Arabic ladies coffee morning and having trouble finding a font 
that looks vaguely Arabic but is in fact English.  DOes anyone know of a good 
free one?
Regards from  Tom :)  Many non-English fonts keep the Latin letters for the 
initialglyphs.  What you are looking for is a font that does not have any Latin 
glyphs?

When I have a few minutes, I will see if I have one.

Any particular style in mind?  Any dialect?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Testing again

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Edmonds

And don't be surprised if you don't see your own posts.
Google host our mail domain and for some reason I don't see my own posts 
unless they are replied to by someone else. They are visible to me in 
Nabble  thou'.

Steve

On 2013-05-09 05:28, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
First time it got through to the moderators list and had to be forwarded to 
here, i think.  2nd time it got straight through, i think.  I'm not completely 
clear about what happened there tbh but definitely one attempt got to the 
moderators to begin with.

Seems to be sorted now :)
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Kieran Peckett crazyske...@gmail.com
To: Sean O'Connell seanoconnel...@gmail.com
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 18:15
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Testing again


Yes - it got through both times, don't worry (James wouldn't have replied
if he hadn't received it - he probably thought that you wouldn't fall for
it)


On 8 May 2013 18:10, Sean O'Connell seanoconnel...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello,

testing to see if you received this email.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Testing again

2013-05-08 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Here is Nabble.  You can either click on the links in this email or navigate
from the LibreOffice Get Help page and get to your thread reasonably
easily that way.  

Once here start typing a reply and notice the strange buttons at the top of
the message window.  Click on More there to get to the Upload a file
option at the top of that list.  There is another More button somewhere in
Nable but just don't let it throw you!  When you get to the right one it's a
lot like uploading an attachment to a normal email.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  



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[libreoffice-users] North American DVD Project

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Could someone send me the link to the North American DVD Project page?  My 
workplace might be interested in ordering 3.  


Also does anyone happen to know how much the postal charge would be from New 
York(?) to England for a small package of 3 Dvds?
Regards from 

Tom :)  

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[libreoffice-users] Database problem

2013-05-08 Thread Sean
Hello,

the header constantly repeats itself around 8 times on every page.

it's in the location:
Database- MusicStudents
Reports- AverageCostLesson

please tell me the solution
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4054689/Capture.png 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: North American DVD Project

2013-05-08 Thread Pedro
Hi Tom

By your command :)

http://libreoffice-na.us/

Cheers,
Pedro



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Database problem

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It's good to see you replaced legitimate names with made up ones for this 
public access list! 

It looks like it's trying to do sub-reports or something?
Regards from 
Tom :)  







 From: Sean seanoconnel...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 19:06
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Database problem
 

Hello,

the header constantly repeats itself around 8 times on every page.

it's in the location:
Database- MusicStudents
Reports- AverageCostLesson

please tell me the solution
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4054689/Capture.png 



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[libreoffice-users] Italics and bold in BASE

2013-05-08 Thread acanela
Hello,

I´m a Libreoffice user and I´d like to use italics and bold in Base. Is it
possible? It would be so important to me.

Soy un usuario de Libreoffice y me gustaría usar la cursiva y negrita en el
programa Base.

Thanks in advance,
Antonio Canela.



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[libreoffice-users] re. Testing message ...

2013-05-08 Thread anne-ology
   ... have you subscribed to this list?;

   You may do so by sending a message to
users+subscr...@global.libreoffice.orgusers%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org



Hello,

I am just first testing to see if this email will reach you so that i can
ask for help in libreoffice

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread anne-ology
   You're so very cute; and very kind; THANK YOU for the glowing
compliments.

   I've a number of pet-peeves, but these crazy electric windows may be
the topper - at least the longest-standing;
   back as a kid, a friend's parent's saved and purchased their
dream car - a Rolls Royce;
  well, when it arrived ... within 2 weeks; the right, rear
window was stuck in the 1/2 open position -
 no mechanic knew why or what to do about it; some freak of
the electronic system  ;-)



On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:02 AM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.eduwrote:

Gosh @anne-ology,

 Formatting of your posts are always sooo far out there, i.e. off
 standards, I figured to give you a nod with the top posted and right
 justified +1, and a centered +2--although if I'd been thinking sharply
 enough I'd have made it a +2¢--because I love the car window analogy.

 Stuart



 From: anne-ology [lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:32 AM
 To: V Stuart Foote
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

+2  ???  ;-)

2 bits, 4 bits, 6 bits, a dollar ... all for ___, stand up and
 holler!
well, my mind wanders  ;-)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread anne-ology
   Jabberwocky
 by Lewis Carroll

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
  Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
  And the mome raths outgrabe.

“Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
  The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
  The frumious Bandersnatch!”

He took his vorpal sword in hand;
  Long time the manxome foe he sought —
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
  And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
  The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
  And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
  The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
  He went galumphing back.

“And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
  Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”
  He chortled in his joy.

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
  Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
  And the mome raths outgrabe.



On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:

On Wed, 8 May 2013, Dries Feys wrote:

  All,

 Yes, I'm a top poster. Simply because I use gmail, and I don't want to
 click  scroll to the bottom of the message every time I respond to a
 message. But yes, I read everything in this thread, as it shows as
 bottom posting in my compose window.

 Sorry for the inconvenience...


 it is inconvenient but so is the way gmail sets things up; I think some
 other email clients do the same.

 if I were using gmail, I also would probably top-post because it's one
 degree of inconvenience against another.

 I think trying to _write_ bottom-posting when the email program resists it
 is more difficult than trying to _read_ bottom-posting.

 (I'm not a dogmatist; I'm a pragmatist.)


  Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards,


 mit herzlichen grüssen!

 F.



 DRIES FEYS
 CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer


 On 8 May 2013 16:44, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:

 On Wed, 8 May 2013, V Stuart Foote wrote:


 +1
 From: anne-ology [lagin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 8:34 AM



   top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top
 post
 ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom post ... top post ... bottom
 post
 ...
   one requires re-reading the post, before getting to the new
 bit;
  one allows the new bit to be read - if one needs
 refreshing
 on what's gone before, then merely scroll down.

   Why do some folks want to complicate things which are really
 quite
 simple;
   oh, windows could be rolled up  down in a car whenever;
   then electric windows made it impossible to do so unless
 the
 engine was running  ;-)



+2

 ;-)
 Stuart



 -2 (or however many)

 many (all?) of us read several posts so you end up with a bunch of nearly
 meaningless opening lines; why read further? with bottom-posting, you see
 right away what the issue was, which motivates further reading.

 I know this is a perennial disagreement; perhaps top-posters might at
 least
 consider pruning the thread so it's easier to know what they are talking
 about.

 Felmon Davis




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Database problem

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Lewis

On 05/08/2013 02:06 PM, Sean wrote:

Hello,

the header constantly repeats itself around 8 times on every page.

it's in the location:
Database- MusicStudents
Reports- AverageCostLesson

please tell me the solution
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4054689/Capture.png



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 I now see what the problem is: you need to change your design of 
the report. For any heading that you do not want to be repeated, you 
have to group by that heading. How you do this depends upon whether you 
created the report using Design View or the Report Wizard. If the 
latter, you will have to recreate the report. If you used Design View, 
right click the report and select Edit. Then used the Report Builder to 
select TG as the field you want to Group By. Let me know which you used, 
and I will tell you what you need to do.


--Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Italics and bold in BASE

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Lewis

On 05/08/2013 12:31 PM, acanela wrote:

Hello,

I´m a Libreoffice user and I´d like to use italics and bold in Base. Is it
possible? It would be so important to me.

Soy un usuario de Libreoffice y me gustaría usar la cursiva y negrita en el
programa Base.

Thanks in advance,
Antonio Canela.
 I use the Styles and Formatting window (F11 opens it) to select 
italics, bold, bold italics, and a variety of font sizes in my database 
forms. Where exactly do you want to use one of theses?


--Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Italics and bold in BASE

2013-05-08 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker

Hi!

Le 08/05/2013 18:31, acanela a écrit :


I´m a Libreoffice user and I´d like to use italics and bold in Base. Is it
possible? It would be so important to me.



Where do you want to use italics or bold?

There are two areas for data management: the data themselves and the 
presentation of data. For ease of development, both are *always* kept 
apart (if not, they should be). As Base is a... well... *data*base, 
there's no need for any presentation setting there.


The data presentation is the job of a form (done using Writer), a 
mailing (using Writer as well) or a report (in Base). As for the 
reports, and if I'm not mistaken, the report tool-s in Base allow for 
presentation settings.


But perhaps I didn't understand your concerns well. Please elaborate.
--
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: North American DVD Project

2013-05-08 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 05/08/2013 02:09 PM, Pedro wrote:

Hi Tom

By your command :)

http://libreoffice-na.us/

Cheers,
Pedro



I think Drew created this page in the 3.3 days, but I do not use it for 
the NA-DVD project


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Americas_LibreOffice_DVD#Americas_LibreOffice_DVD_Project_Page

Here is the DVD download page.
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=4.0.2

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies


Hi :)
I like the bits that say 

... [show rest of quote]

so that you can click on them to see the rest of the remaining thread if you 
want to.  Of course you can easily read all the comments from top-posters with 
ease.  

Regards from 

Tom :)  




 From: V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 16:18
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators
 


Top post, bottom post, interspersed --- it is all pretty much the same in the 
end for delivering and exchanging information. 

But what REALLY makes a difference in effort for recipients and for following 
the thread is simply trimming the response--by hand, or allowing your favorite 
news reader or email client to do it.

The need is especially notable if you review threads on Nabble archive--this 
thread for example: 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Seeking-for-list-moderators-tp4053736.html

Stuart 



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[libreoffice-users] re. Italics and bold in BASE

2013-05-08 Thread anne-ology
   yes, this is possible.

   And you may subscribe to this list by sending a message to
users+subscr...@global.libreoffice.orgusers%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org

   Hopefully, someone on this list will respond to your request; I'm
using an older version, so my information will possibly not be pertinent to
you.

   BTW - there are various lists for various languages, so if English
is not your native tongue, you might be want to join the list suited to you.



Hello,

I´m a Libreoffice user and I´d like to use italics and bold in Base. Is it
possible? It would be so important to me.

Soy un usuario de Libreoffice y me gustaría usar la cursiva y negrita en el
programa Base.

Thanks in advance,
Antonio Canela

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[libreoffice-users] Re: re. Italics and bold in BASE

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Only in Forms and Reports.  Not in the data (Tables) or in the Queries.

I haven't used Base yet and don't really know so this is just guessing from my 
impression of what goes on ... 
I think you are meant to use Writer or Calc to connect to or link to the 
Queries in Base.  Then you use fields in much the way you would mail merge.  
That means you can apply normal formatting to the fields or the text and stuff 
around that in the rest of the Writer or Calc document.  

Does this link describe how to do that?
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=75t=18511


There was this link on the main LibreOffice website
http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/


I hope to start reading this quick guide or handbook that is in the process of 
being translated from the original that was written in German 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Handbook
The chapter Linking to Databases is the other way around.  It's about using 
external tables in MySql or PostgreSQL rather than having the tables in the 
internal back-end.  

I get confused around then but i think Base then 'just' has the queries and the 
relationships between the tables.  Then Base feeds into Forms and Reports 
created in Writer.  So Base is a bit like a bridge?  
Regards from 
Tom :)  









 From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
To: Antonio Canela antonio_canela_ru...@hotmail.com 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 20:01
Subject: re. Italics and bold in BASE
 


   yes, this is possible.

   And you may subscribe to this list by sending a message to 
users+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org


   Hopefully, someone on this list will respond to your request; I'm using 
an older version, so my information will possibly not be pertinent to you.


   BTW - there are various lists for various languages, so if English is 
not your native tongue, you might be want to join the list suited to you.





Hello,

I´m a Libreoffice user and I´d like to use italics and bold in Base. Is it
possible? It would be so important to me.

Soy un usuario de Libreoffice y me gustaría usar la cursiva y negrita en el
programa Base.

Thanks in advance,
Antonio Canela




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: North American DVD Project

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks Pedro! :)  Hah, my name is on that page!  lol
Regards from 
Tom :)  






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To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2013, 19:55
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: North American DVD Project
 

On 05/08/2013 02:09 PM, Pedro wrote:
 Hi Tom

 By your command :)

 http://libreoffice-na.us/

 Cheers,
 Pedro


I think Drew created this page in the 3.3 days, but I do not use it for 
the NA-DVD project

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Americas_LibreOffice_DVD#Americas_LibreOffice_DVD_Project_Page

Here is the DVD download page.
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=4.0.2

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: North American DVD Project

2013-05-08 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


Yes you are.
You are one of my readers who helped me get my edits correct.

All I am waiting for are the 4.0.3 installs, and then I will be making 
that DVD and uploading those files to the online version of the DVD.

Plus uploading the 4.0.3 artwork with that page.

All of the current documentation is listed there.


On 05/08/2013 03:42 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Thanks Pedro! :)  Hah, my name is on that page!  lol
Regards from
Tom :)







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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: North American DVD Project


On 05/08/2013 02:09 PM, Pedro wrote:

Hi Tom

By your command :)

http://libreoffice-na.us/

Cheers,
Pedro


I think Drew created this page in the 3.3 days, but I do not use it for
the NA-DVD project

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Americas_LibreOffice_DVD#Americas_LibreOffice_DVD_Project_Page

Here is the DVD download page.
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=boxversion=4.0.2

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[libreoffice-users] Copy / Paste - Include Recorded Changes?

2013-05-08 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All,

Is there a way for me to copy a bunch of stuff htat has recorded changes
from one document and paste to another document including the changes? A
regular copy paste seems to just copy the actual text, not the changes at
all.

Best,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy / Paste - Include Recorded Changes?

2013-05-08 Thread anne-ology
   If you (1) highlight the area you wish to copy,
 then (2) copy it;
 then (3) place your marker on the area, at the exact location, you
wish this new data to go,
 then (4) the formatting should be transferred to the newly pasted
data.

   Well that works for me;



On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All,

 Is there a way for me to copy a bunch of stuff htat has recorded changes
 from one document and paste to another document including the changes? A
 regular copy paste seems to just copy the actual text, not the changes at
 all.

 Best,
 Joel



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy / Paste - Include Recorded Changes?

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Lewis

On 05/08/2013 07:05 PM, Joel Madero wrote:

Hi All,

Is there a way for me to copy a bunch of stuff that has recorded changes
from one document and paste to another document including the changes? A
regular copy paste seems to just copy the actual text, not the changes at
all.

Best,
Joel

 When I copy text that contains recorded changes and them paste it into 
another document, the changes made to the original document are pasted. The 
original text is not copied.
 Some text as an example: The sly_red_  /silver/  fox jumped over the lazy 
brown dog. (_red_  indicates that this word has been deleted./silver/  
indicates that this word has been added.)
 When I copy and paste this sentence in a LibreOffice text document, I get: The 
sly silver fox jumped over the lazy brown dog. The things that I have added are 
copied and pasted. The things which I had deleted are not copied and pasted.

--Dan
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy / Paste - Include Recorded Changes?

2013-05-08 Thread Joel Madero

On 05/08/2013 06:17 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:

On 05/08/2013 07:05 PM, Joel Madero wrote:

Hi All,

Is there a way for me to copy a bunch of stuff that has recorded changes
from one document and paste to another document including the changes? A
regular copy paste seems to just copy the actual text, not the changes at
all.

Best,
Joel

 When I copy text that contains recorded changes and them paste it 
into another document, the changes made to the original document are 
pasted. The original text is not copied.
 Some text as an example: The sly_red_  /silver/  fox jumped over 
the lazy brown dog. (_red_  indicates that this word has been 
deleted./silver/  indicates that this word has been added.)
 When I copy and paste this sentence in a LibreOffice text 
document, I get: The sly silver fox jumped over the lazy brown dog. 
The things that I have added are copied and pasted. The things which I 
had deleted are not copied and pasted.


--Dan


Indeed and this is not what I want, I want everything including the 
changes copied over.
The rationale is that I have lots of documents that have been edited by 
different people. I would prefer moving these all to one and then 
actually looking at the changes and either accepting or not accepting 
the modified stuff.


It seems like this may be impossible which is unfortunate - time for a 
feature request perhaps.



Best,
joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Copy / Paste - Include Recorded Changes?

2013-05-08 Thread Brian Barker

At 18:56 08/05/2013 -0700, Joel Madero wrote:

On 05/08/2013 07:05 PM, Joel Madero wrote:
Is there a way for me to copy a bunch of stuff that has recorded 
changes from one document and paste to another document including 
the changes? A regular copy paste seems to just copy the actual 
text, not the changes at all.


... I want everything including the changes copied over.
The rationale is that I have lots of documents that have been edited 
by different people. I would prefer moving these all to one and then 
actually looking at the changes and either accepting or not 
accepting the modified stuff.


That's what I thought you meant!

If you have sent the same text to multiple editors and the only 
changes made to each copy are recorded changes, you can do this by 
opening one document and then using Edit | Changes  | Merge 
Documents... multiple times to merge each of the other 
documents.  You can then, as you desire, look at all the suggested 
changes together when deciding to accept or reject any of them.


But this works only if the documents differ only in recorded 
changes.  To make this work properly, you need to set the original 
document to record changes (Edit | Changes  | Record) and then to 
protect this setting using Edit | Changes  | Protect Records... and 
entering a password *before* distributing your original.  Without 
this password, the various editors will not be able to disable change 
recording, so all the edited documents will come back in a state 
where the above technique will work.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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