Re: [libreoffice-users] missing menu launcher link in 4.1.2.3
Le 11/10/2013 14:51, Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : I noticed that 4.1.2.3 for Debian 64-bit [Ubuntu 12.04LTS/MATE] is missing the generic menu launcher listing for LO. The one that does not go directly to any of the modules, like Writer or Calc. Already reported in BugZilla : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70133 Best regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hello, dear Libreoffice developers. I have question. Whenever I open several big documents, for example 3 calc files, office opens them in several processes. And if one of them hangs (not actually, but it takes too long to open), if I kill one process, there are all documents closed. And also openoffice opens 1 document at the time not 3 of them. I mean it uses CPU (only one core) and everything,but other two just waits before first will be finished. Can you solve that? How can I open several documents in separated independent processes? --- Rinat Camal -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users]
Dnia 2013-10-12, o godz. 13:23:14 Rinat Camalov richman1000...@mail.ru napisał(a): Hello, dear Libreoffice developers. Well, we are not developers. This is support mailing list, from user for users. But other than that, you have come to right place, as this list is a place where questions should be asked. Can you solve that? How can I open several documents in separated independent processes? This is caused by know design flaw of LibreOffice. Only one instance can use one profile directory. That's why if Writer crashes, it takes down all other LO windows. That's why if you open formula editor window in one Calc, you can't do anything in second Calc window. That's why you can't simultaneously edit documents and convert files from command line. As for last one, it was reported here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37531 You can subscribe to this bug and wait until it is resolved. If it did, your issue might be fixed as well (depending on which approach LO devs will choose there). But correct fix to that issue would require huge refactoring of suite internals. So you'd better be patient. As a workaround, you can create several profile directories and run LO with command line switch that forces it to use specified directory for profile. This way you can fool LO to open few different instances, each working independently of others. The only problem here is copying your default profile directory (which contains all extensions, settings, database connections etc.) to these different directories. And then merging changes made in other instances back to default one. That is, if you care about your settings. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] [CALC] row_only and column_only cell references
Hello, I've been having problems with certain type of *references* in Calc. For example, the formula sum(1:2) works correctly in other spreadsheet software, but it errors in Calc. The most problematic cases are related to functions such as indirect(), address() and the like. For example, the following formula should tell whether a number in A1 is prime or not: =SUMPRODUCT(1*(MOD(A1,ROW(INDIRECT(1:INT(A1^0.5=0))=1 but Calc doesn't seem to accept the type of reference (ini_row:fin_row). Instead I have to add a column to the reference, as in: =SUMPRODUCT(1*(MOD(A1,ROW(INDIRECT(a1:aINT(A1^0.5=0))=1 to make it work in Calc. There are several settings that affect the way Calc parses and shows some type of cell references, so I wonder whether there is some setting that I should change for Calc to be able to accept this type of references (ini_row:fin_row), or whether this is some kind of bug or lack of a feature. A similar issue happens with column-only references, such as sum(A:B). To be clear, I'm not saying that row-only (or column-only) references are better in any way. I'm just trying to make them work as in (a.k.a compatible with) other spreadsheet software. If there is a better place (mailing list, irc, forum,...) to ask this question, please let me know. TIA, Ady. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] [CALC] row_only and column_only cell references
On 10/12/2013 07:55 AM, Ady wrote: Hello, I've been having problems with certain type of *references* in Calc. For example, the formula sum(1:2) works correctly in other spreadsheet software, but it errors in Calc. I was not aware that you could do that in any product. It is not supported in Calc of which I am aware. Villeroy has a messy solution (see post 6). Well, you probably should read all the posts... http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9t=9527 So, the ony soltions I have seen based on a quick search is to either define a range, or to use offset. The most problematic cases are related to functions such as indirect(), address() and the like. For example, the following formula should tell whether a number in A1 is prime or not: =SUMPRODUCT(1*(MOD(A1,ROW(INDIRECT(1:INT(A1^0.5=0))=1 but Calc doesn't seem to accept the type of reference (ini_row:fin_row). Instead I have to add a column to the reference, as in: =SUMPRODUCT(1*(MOD(A1,ROW(INDIRECT(a1:aINT(A1^0.5=0))=1 to make it work in Calc. There are several settings that affect the way Calc parses and shows some type of cell references, so I wonder whether there is some setting that I should change for Calc to be able to accept this type of references (ini_row:fin_row), or whether this is some kind of bug or lack of a feature. A similar issue happens with column-only references, such as sum(A:B). To be clear, I'm not saying that row-only (or column-only) references are better in any way. I'm just trying to make them work as in (a.k.a compatible with) other spreadsheet software. If there is a better place (mailing list, irc, forum,...) to ask this question, please let me know. TIA, Ady. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] What's syntax of xforms Edit Element Constraint Condition?
I'm using LibreOffice 3.5.7.2 with Build ID: 350m1(Build:2) running on ubuntu: ~/temp $ uname -a Linux evansl-Inspiron-531 3.2.0-54-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:08:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux When creating an XML Form Document, I'm having trouble using the editor for my instance data. The interface looked about like the following: Element --- Name [Tax] Default Value [.01] Settings -- Data Type [Floating point] [ ] Required[Condition] [ ] Relevant[Condition] [ ] Constraint [Condition] [ ] Read-only [Condition] [ ] Calculate [Condition] I checked the Constraint row, expecting that when I then clicked on the [Condition] button, I would be able to provide some expression, such as: 0 Tax However, when I started to enter this, I got as far as: 0 and the message: Error during evaluation appeared in the Result window. When I completed the entry to arrive at: 0 Tax the message: False appeared in the Result window. So, I just tried: Tax and got a blank Result window. What sort of expression is expected in the Condition window? The help button just sent me to: _Condition_ Enter a condition _Result_ Displays a preview of the result which wasn't any help. Thanks for any help. -regards, Larry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] missing menu launcher link in 4.1.2.3
On 10/12/2013 05:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Le 11/10/2013 14:51, Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit : I noticed that 4.1.2.3 for Debian 64-bit [Ubuntu 12.04LTS/MATE] is missing the generic menu launcher listing for LO. The one that does not go directly to any of the modules, like Writer or Calc. Already reported in BugZilla : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70133 Best regards JBF Thanks I hoped that it was not just my install. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Security considerations when opening documents
Greetings, I have a general question about security. Not counting possible programming errors (such as buffer overflows), is it secure to open *any* document with LibreOffice (with any of its components, like Writer or Calc)? Or is there a protocol by which a document could cause harmful code to be executed? If so, can it be switched off? I receive a lot of documents by e-mail from all different sources. I'm wondering whether I should take additional precautions before opening them with LibreOffice. Thank you! Lasse -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
I'm grateful for the feedback, and I will definitely post this to the Bugzilla system. However, the Bugzilla system contains a warning about spam being generated from it, since addresses are revealed in the open. For this reason, I've been engaging in creating a spam-only email address, and I'm not quite finished with the process. I've been busy and haven't had time to respond to the other comments or to try out opml yet. When I submit this as a bug, I'll include some of the comments as an addendum. Not all of the comments would be relevant in a feature request, but some might be. On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 4:42 AM, krackedpress [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4077647...@n3.nabble.com wrote: I Know that the DEVs do not have much time to read these posts, but I hoped that some poeple on this list might know enough about the Macros to know if it was possible. Since I am not on the DEVs list, maybe someone can forward the original posting to their list I did not know a feature request was to go onto the BUGS tracking system. I thought it was just for posting bugs that crop up in a version. On 10/10/2013 07:20 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Just a friendly reminder that devs rarely track this mailing list. If you have a feature request it belongs on our bug tracker (bugs.freedesktop.org) else it will never get implemented. Best, Joel On 10/10/2013 03:50 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I am not a Macro person, but I wonder how much of this can be done with Macros. I know one book writer that does a great deal of his work through macros he created over the years. He could not find any word processor package that did what he wanted so he learned to write macros. First with Star Office, then OOo, and now using LO on his Linux system. I do not remember all of the things he wrote about in his author's notes before he got into his e-newsletter, but one time he did talk about all of the things he needed to be done and went out to find a package that could do it through the macros. The last author's notes was about getting OOo running on a new Linux system. That was when it was in the late 1.x stage or early 2.x one. Just about 2 years ago, I found out he switched to LO. He no longer writes/co-writes 4 to 6 books a year, but he still does a few, now that he is in his late 70's. So Those who are really good at writing Macros, how much of the info below can be taken care of through some type of macros? On 10/10/2013 06:09 PM, CougarB wrote: When I was a full-time journalist in the 1980s, I became very successful using a dedicated outliner called PCOutline. When all the major Word Processers came along--MS Word, Word Perfect, etc, the lack of outliner functionality kept me with my archaic outliner until MS Word beat the functionality of PCOutline. I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time technical writer in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a java house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to MS, that I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since they came along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and furthermore, the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole point, from my point of view. I'm a very motivated wannabe LibraOffice user who currently can't make the switch, because although I'm retired and writing fiction, the power of an outliner for writing in all genres is something I can't live without. So my reasons are complex--sorry about that--but tl:dr will not allow you to understand them. Please take the time. I really want to quit Microsoft Office forever and ever and ever. Thanx. The first functionality I need might seem mickey mouse, but it's the foundation for everything else. This is that in Word's outliner view, there's a button in front of every paragraph that I can drag and drop up and down. It's like cut and paste, but a lot faster. Combined with other features, it's extremely powerful. The second functionality I need is to be able to collapse things. In an article of 25 paragraphs, I can hide every line except the first line of the paragraph, thus allowing me to see the entire article of 25 paragraphs on the screen at the same time. This allows me to completely rearrange the entire article by drop and drag. For editing a single sentence or paragraph, I insert a return between sentences, phrases, and even words, drop and drag these elements into a new order, and delete the returns. Voila! A much better constructed paragraph or sentence in a snap. The third functionality is to collapse things within headers. For instance, if I've interviewed a dozen people for an article or if I've brainstormed 5 pages of random ideas for a blog or a chapter in a novel,
Re: [libreoffice-users] Security considerations when opening documents
Hi Lasse, As far as I know only macros can really cause anything harmful. So if you're settings are the default (disable macros) you're in the clear or if you're settings are that you confirm every macro that is run, then just be aware of who sends these documents to you. Others probably know more but this is my understanding. All the best, Joel On 10/12/2013 10:30 AM, Lasse Kliemann wrote: Greetings, I have a general question about security. Not counting possible programming errors (such as buffer overflows), is it secure to open *any* document with LibreOffice (with any of its components, like Writer or Calc)? Or is there a protocol by which a document could cause harmful code to be executed? If so, can it be switched off? I receive a lot of documents by e-mail from all different sources. I'm wondering whether I should take additional precautions before opening them with LibreOffice. Thank you! Lasse -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
On 10/10/2013, CougarB couga...@gmail.com wrote: I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time technical writer in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a java house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to MS, that I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since they came along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and furthermore, the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole point, from my point of view. There are many outliner tools out there, why use a word-processor when a text editor such as Leo or Jedit can achieve outline functionality? Alternatively, use LO writer styles and the navigator toolbar. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
I took a look at Leo, Jedit, and OPML, and frankly, none of them are as convenient as M$ Word. I'm using Word as both a word processor and an outliner, and it's extremely convenient to be working on a document as an outline, then move over to a word processing mode without losing the outline structure, and work with formatting and other elements that are convenient in that view, and then move back to outlining without losing my formatting and other tools that are available in Word. When I'm writing in outline format, I even want to just experience my novel as it will be read on the page, and then go back to using the outliner. In Eric B's first post, he recommended OPML but stated that once the document was moved over to LO or OO, it was no longer in outline format and could no longer be manipulated as an outline. This is what I found in looking at every option that anyone here has recommended. In http://cribsheet.opml.org, there are a lot of comments by people who also want to have their outliner also act as a word processor. There's no export facility in OPML that preserves the outline structure once you cut and paste the text into your word processor, and the users include many old-time outliner users who think that OPML is the best of the options. The reason I'm currently sticking with Word is I need a tool that is both a word processor and an excellent outliner, such that I don't have to cut and paste, thereby losing the outline structure. I need to be able to constantly go back and forth between the two views--which is how Word handles it--as two views. That's why I am not willing to give up my current use of Word. On the cripsheet page for OPML, you'll find ample evidence that I'm not alone is request this feature. On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:03 PM, nabbler [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4077811...@n3.nabble.com wrote: On 10/10/2013, CougarB [hidden email]http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4077811i=0 wrote: I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time technical writer in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a java house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to MS, that I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since they came along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and furthermore, the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole point, from my point of view. There are many outliner tools out there, why use a word-processor when a text editor such as Leo or Jedit can achieve outline functionality? Alternatively, use LO writer styles and the navigator toolbar. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email]http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4077811i=1 Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Feature-Request-Lack-of-Outliner-Functionality-a-Deal-Breaker-for-Me-tp4077564p4077811.html To unsubscribe from Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me, click herehttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=4077564code=Y291Z2FyLmJAZ21haWwuY29tfDQwNzc1NjR8LTExODk2NjEyNzI= . NAMLhttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewerid=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.namlbase=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespacebreadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Feature-Request-Lack-of-Outliner-Functionality-a-Deal-Breaker-for-Me-tp4077564p4077815.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
On 10/10/2013 10:50 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I am not a Macro person, but I wonder how much of this can be done with Macros. This is where it would have been extremely useful to have access to source code for OOo extensions. Everything requested was not only doable, but done by people using OOo 2.x, and the appropriate extensions. Those extensions were, naturally enough, broken in OOo 3.x. Use Running Headers, configure Outline Numbering appropriately, and use Navigator to move the paragraphs around, will take care of the first request. I've forgotten what the name of the extension that provided the functionality described in the second and third request. :( Adroit use of Navigator almost suffices for that functionality. Navigator does have its annoyances, chief of which is collapsing when switching between different objects within the document. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Security considerations when opening documents
On 10/12/2013 05:30 PM, Lasse Kliemann wrote: Or is there a protocol by which a document could cause harmful code to be executed? The only thing I'm aware of, will cause the Blue Screen of Death in Windows, when the document is opened with Microsoft Word. I haven't tested it with Win8 and the version of Word released specifically for Win8. It does cause Win7 and Word 2010 to crash. The same document will not cause Windows system to crash, when opened with LibO, or OOo, or AOo. If so, can it be switched off? For the phenomena I describe, the only defence is to ban Microsoft Office from your Windows system. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
Macros are not the answer. Even with the best, most focused macros, I would not be able to reduce the amount of time and the number of clicks sufficiently to equal the efficiency of the Word outliner. That's dreaming. Here's a case in point, and in the PS after my signature, I'm providing a second case. I just got an email from someone who took notes at the same meeting as me. However, she brainstormed an entirely new direction, which was our agreement. Combining the two emails and breaking up every paragraph into separate points yielded 35 paragraphs of between 1 and 4 lines, totaling 78 lines, which is too much to display on a single page, especially with spaces between paragraphs. However with Word, with one click, I collapsed all the paragraphs into single lines--which is like code folding. I created five heading buttons, which required five returns and one ctrl-arrow. (Plus typing the titles.) Then I began dragging the points up into the headers. This required one click to capture the paragraph and a mouse move and release to drop. Periodically, I had to collapse the five headers so that all of the points under each one were hidden. Doing this literally took two clicks and no scrolling. I did this three times. The first edit was done after 41 clicks (35 paragraphs + 6 clicks to collapse header sections). However, once all of the points were distributed in the five headers, I had to repeat the process with a header that had eighteen points in it. By the time I was done, I had clicked 22 more times, for a total of 63 clicks, and no delay between them. It was extremely fast and efficient, though I wasn't timing it and can't tell you how long it took. Using the native methods in LibraOffice, I would have to click three times to highlight each paragraph and then I could have sometimes dragged and dropped it. I suspect that most of the time, I would have had to right click and left click to cut it, navigate with one more click using the Navigator, click to establish an insertion point, and right click and left click to paste it, and then navigate to the raw notes with one more click. This would take 4 to 10 clicks, depending whether or not navigation was necessary or whether it could be dragged and dropped. If two thirds of the moves required navigation (420 clicks), which is reasonable for this project, the entire thing would would have required approximately 492 clicks to accomplish what I accomplished with 63 clicks. In addition, it would have taken considerably longer, since my method doesn't require any navigation at all. (If only half the moves required navigation, it would still cost me 441 clicks.) LibreOffice would quickly give me carpal tunnel syndrome, because I do this kind of work constantly. It would also literally cut my efficiency in half, and because I would be spending so much more time and energy on the mechanics, I would be tired sooner and less clear in my delivery. This is why I can't switch from Word to LibreOffice. Since I prefer to get away from M$, an integrated outliner in LO is vital to what I want. But I won't make the switch when it will hurt my health, my time, my projects, and my goals. Cougar PS. I told you in my original post that I used to take notes as a senior technical writer in developer brainstorm meetings. It was not uncommon for my shorthand notes to fill many pages, and when I typed them, a regular length brainstorming meeting probably created 500 to 700 lines of notes. With a document of that size, literally all of it would require using the Navigator to move around the different points to distribute the notes into their correct buckets. With my method, the organization of these points into categories would probably have taken at least 1000 clicks, counting the subcategorization. However, using LO would require at least 10,000 clicks (probably many more) and would extend the time required to organize the notes into something coherent by a huge amount of time. On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM, toki.kantoor [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] ml-node+s969070n4077825...@n3.nabble.com wrote: On 10/10/2013 10:50 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I am not a Macro person, but I wonder how much of this can be done with Macros. This is where it would have been extremely useful to have access to source code for OOo extensions. Everything requested was not only doable, but done by people using OOo 2.x, and the appropriate extensions. Those extensions were, naturally enough, broken in OOo 3.x. Use Running Headers, configure Outline Numbering appropriately, and use Navigator to move the paragraphs around, will take care of the first request. I've forgotten what the name of the extension that provided the functionality described in the second and third request. :( Adroit use of Navigator almost suffices for that functionality. Navigator does have its annoyances, chief of which is collapsing when switching between different objects
