I took a look at Leo, Jedit, and OPML, and frankly, none of them are as convenient as M$ Word. I'm using Word as both a word processor and an outliner, and it's extremely convenient to be working on a document as an outline, then move over to a word processing mode without losing the outline structure, and work with formatting and other elements that are convenient in that view, and then move back to outlining without losing my formatting and other tools that are available in Word. When I'm writing in outline format, I even want to just experience my novel as it will be read on the page, and then go back to using the outliner.
In Eric B's first post, he recommended OPML but stated that once the document was moved over to LO or OO, it was no longer in outline format and could no longer be manipulated as an outline. This is what I found in looking at every option that anyone here has recommended. In http://cribsheet.opml.org, there are a lot of comments by people who also want to have their outliner also act as a word processor. There's no export facility in OPML that preserves the outline structure once you cut and paste the text into your word processor, and the users include many old-time outliner users who think that OPML is the best of the options. The reason I'm currently sticking with Word is I need a tool that is both a word processor and an excellent outliner, such that I don't have to cut and paste, thereby losing the outline structure. I need to be able to constantly go back and forth between the two views--which is how Word handles it--as two views. That's why I am not willing to give up my current use of Word. On the cripsheet page for OPML, you'll find ample evidence that I'm not alone is request this feature. On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:03 PM, nabbler [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] <[email protected]> wrote: > On 10/10/2013, CougarB <[hidden > email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4077811&i=0>> > wrote: > > > > > I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time technical > > writer > > in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a > java > > house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to MS, > that > > I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since they > came > > along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and > furthermore, > > the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole point, > > from my point of view. > > > > There are many outliner tools out there, why use a word-processor when > a text editor such as Leo or Jedit can achieve outline functionality? > > Alternatively, use LO writer styles and the navigator toolbar. > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden > email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4077811&i=1> > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Feature-Request-Lack-of-Outliner-Functionality-a-Deal-Breaker-for-Me-tp4077564p4077811.html > To unsubscribe from Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a > Deal Breaker for Me, click > here<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=4077564&code=Y291Z2FyLmJAZ21haWwuY29tfDQwNzc1NjR8LTExODk2NjEyNzI=> > . > NAML<http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Feature-Request-Lack-of-Outliner-Functionality-a-Deal-Breaker-for-Me-tp4077564p4077815.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
