Re: [libreoffice-users] Clarification about ODF Extended
On 17/03/2014, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing happens when XML tags are ignored, to systems which are not supporting the ODF 1.2 Extended document format. This is the reason why we can suggest to use ODF 1.2 Extended as the preferred format, because backward compatibility is maintained. Thanks to the odf implementor notes web page, how can this claim be true when these LO features break odf validation? Somewhere in the wiki there is a list of the extended features, but please remember that we are speaking of a document format and not of software features. So, most of the new LibreOffice features do not impact the document format. If LO feature (most likely designed to provide some sort of compatibility with m$) prevent odf validation, the document format must be impacted. Or is this a false conclusion? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO compatibility
On 16/03/2014, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: Practical implementations of a proposed standard are wonderful, but, before it's part of the standard, documents written with such extensions are, _by definition_, non-standard formats. It's a worry that some users prefer new features over standards compliance and quality control. In my opinion: LibréOffice ought not be writing documents, by default, in non-standard formats. Agree, it means that if a user is concerned about compatibility, they must understand to disable the default settings in LO. How does OO compare; are documents created to the odf standard by default? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Clarification about ODF Extended
On 16/03/2014, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: ODF as implemented by OpenOffice and then LibreOffice has always been the extended version, and not the strict standard version, although it has always been possible to choose the latter. ODF become a standard in 2006, based on OOo 2.0 (2005) file format, but OOo was already shipping some additional features which have been integrated in ODF 1.2 (consolidated in 2008, and standardized in 2011). Thanks for this information. The difference between extended and strict allows for confusion to occur. In the option load/save,general, there is no option strict standard, only 10/11, 12, 12extended. Today, LibreOffice integrates some additional features in ODF 1.2, which will hopefully become part of ODF 1.3 (like font embedding). In general, saving as ODF 1.2 Extended does not create problem to users of other ODF compatible software, as the format is backward compatible (so font embedding will not create problems, but will not be recognized by other software). How can font-embed occur if affected by licence restrictions on a font (e.g. font x is licenced to be used only on gpl systems)? This is the reason why LibreOffice suggests ODF 1.2 Extended, and not the ODF 1.2 strict version. Being the format XML based, the tags will not be recognized if they belong to ODF 1.2, but this will not create problems to the document. So how are non-standard elements treated when ignored? It seems safer to select either odf 10/11 or 12strict. Is there a definitive list of these LO 12extended features so that users can decide if it beneficial to use them, or revert to standard odf? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with formulas between Excel and LO
On 17/03/2014, Ernest Karlsson ernestkarls...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We run Ubuntu at our school, Mellansels Folk High School, but our principal creates lots of excel files that need to work in both environments. Our time reporting file stopped working in the 4.0 LO update. We were unable to figure out were the problem was. The problem arises after the first date is inserted and it seems as if the formula that checks for date repetitions and long hours disappears in the column that handles this. I am no spreadsheet guru and have no idea how to find the fault. The thing that surprised me was that the error was err:508 which, as far as I can see, means that a bracket is missing but as this file worked on version 3 without error I don't think that is where the problem lies. Before update to LO40, the spreadsheet was accessible? Has the principal changed m$ software or the file format of the spreadsheet? The file is in Swedish but I believe that the formulas will be in English on a English system. To unlock the hidden columns and rows use the password: Mellansel (I have permission to pass this on) The document appears to be a template file (suffix .xlt). No password was requested to open the file. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO compatibility
On 15/03/2014, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 03:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: nabbler wrote Please go to m$ and ask if m$office is compatible with the ODF standard of LO THAT is exactly the problem! There should never be an ODF standard of LO. [snip] I read that as compatible with the ODF standard, as implemented in LO. I.e.: LO uses the ODF standard. Does MS Office? Did I read that wrong? Or does LO not properly implement the ODF standard? It seems that only yourself and IV (in terms of responses, of course!) understood correctly. Once again, these types of questions expose a strategic weakness of those seeking to see open source software increase in popularity. The original question asked whether LO is compatible with m$, hence the reciprocal question as the answer. It is not known why the original poster (HB) asked this (silly) question: is (s)he an m$ fan, read elsewhere that LO is compatible with m$ the therefore concludes that LO is a m$ to create perfect m$ documents without having to pay the m$ tax (licence fee)? If the answer is (hopefully) no, then the poster should ask LO about compatibility with m$, but instead compatibility with odf (and also ask m$ the same question!). If the original poster and other m$-fans want perfect m$ documents (a laughable concept, considering the poor quality of m$o, but that's another discussion), they should please stop complaining, stop asking and simply pay for a legal copy of m$!!! LO is not an m$-clone! It (rightly) has nothing to do with m$! The native file format of LO is odf, _not_ m$!!! It was amazing to read that there should never be an odf standard, because LO is so perfect with the rapid introduction of gratuitous new features (10-year bugs? Who cares about quality, when we have a new feature to rush out now!). This is the exact strategy of m$, netscape, etc. in the past: embrace (the standard); extend (the standard); extinguish (kill the standard!). Apparently, Oasis are at fault for being slow, methodical and serious about standards development (by definition, a rigourous, tedious and necessarily time-consuming job); therefore LO should continue to improve. As commented elsewhere, such an opinion is ignorant of the concept of the standard development process... If the default behaviour of LO is to produce documents _beyond_ the current odf standard, it's a bad idea, equivalent to the extend the standard mentality as described previously. If LO wants to see the development of odf (not necessarily the increase in LO usage: the two objectives are not equal!), so that the strategic benefit of true document compatibility is maintained, the odf standard must be the default. Users must then be made aware of any non-standard features (writing a list of these new features in the release notes is not enough and merely an expedient action). Those interested in the odf standard for future document compability and flexibility want to be able to write an odf text document today in lowriter, an openformula compliant ods spreadsheet tomorrow in localc and be able to use (in theory, not confirmed) odf-compliant gnumeric, or abiword, or kwrite, etc. 10 years from now to open those documents. Otherwise, what is the purpose of the odf standard? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO compatibility
On 14/03/2014, Hamida Begum hamida_beg...@hotmail.com wrote: is the program compatible with microsoft office? Please go to m$ and ask if m$office is compatible with the ODF standard of LO -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] cross references in footnotes
On 11/03/2014, Erik Jan ejvwaasd...@msn.com wrote: I made a document in Libreoffice 4.2.1 Mageia 3 with a few cross references to other footnotes in the document. When I exported the document to pdf some of these references had changed. After saving the document and reopening it the references were still wrong. I tried to correct them, but in vain. I made new cross references, but these also were changed after saving and reopening the file. So I went back to 4.1.5 but the problem remained. Then I went back to 4.0.6. In this version the wrong references were right again. Looks like a bug, so please submit and confirm the bug number, so those interested can subscribe. Making references in word-processors is a well-known deficiency. Suggest you import the LOwriter odt file into LyX and produce your pdf in that program. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] cross references in footnotes
On 11/03/2014, Erik Jan ejvwaasd...@msn.com wrote: I made a document in Libreoffice 4.2.1 Mageia 3 with a few cross references to other footnotes in the document. When I exported the document to pdf some of these references had changed. After saving the document and reopening it the references were still wrong. I tried to correct them, but in vain. I made new cross references, but these also were changed after saving and reopening the file. So I went back to 4.1.5 but the problem remained. Then I went back to 4.0.6. In this version the wrong references were right again. Looks like a bug, so please submit and confirm the bug number, so those interested can subscribe. Making references in word-processors is a well-known deficiency. Suggest you import the LOwriter odt file into LyX and produce your pdf in that program. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: --convert-to issue
On 09/03/2014, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: e-letter: filenames with undesirable characters (e.g. m$ people adding spaces, strokes (/, \) etc.) Spaces are not 'undesirable characters.' \ and / are both invalid filename characters in Windows. All your contribution to this newsgroup is spreading FUD about Microsoft software. Who gives a ... about those desperately trying to maintain profitable m$ shares? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] --convert-to issue
On 04/03/2014, Ed_0 x9...@mail.ru wrote: Hi, I would like to know, why does libreoffice open up after running in a terminal libreoffice --convert-to odt *.doc? It should not do this. Check your installation again. (E.g: http://www.mail-archive.com/users%40global.libreoffice.org/msg12280.html http://www.mail-archive.com/users%40global.libreoffice.org/msg33265.html What if I want a recursive behaviour? Try: libreoffice --convert-to odt ./*.doc -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: --convert-to issue
On 05/03/2014, Ed_0 x9...@mail.ru wrote: 1) Hmm, I didn't understand those links, the errors displayed are these: javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! Warning: failed to read path from javaldx You have another problem; activation of hyperlinks doesn't require java... 2) I'm not an expert or a sysadmin but I read some books about Linux. ls and ls . or ls ./ is the same. Depends on the subject; filenames with undesirable characters (e.g. m$ people adding spaces, strokes (/, \) etc.) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK
On 24/02/2014, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim Jim Seymour wrote This is all rather unbecoming, don't you guys think? Not really. This is just the two extremist sides of the ODF vs MS-formats. There are indeed some users (not Tanstaafl) who just want a free office suite that perfectly supports MS-formats (and don't care about free file formats as long as they can get the software for free as in beer). And there are the ODF fundamentalists (like e-letter) that say that LO should only support MS-formats for Import and even so that developers shouldn't waste too much time on that :) Good summary, worth more than 2 ¢! :) The problem here, as I see it, is that ODF is still in it's infancy. E.g. only recently ODF (under LibreOffice 4.1) started supporting font embedding which is an essential feature for anyone working with vector graphics, custom presentations or simply elegant text documents. MS supports font embedding since Word 6.0 (back in 1993!!!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188324 Isn't this issue affected by the fact that different operating systems have different default fonts? If so, it would explain the relative ease that the mono-platform m$ can solve this problem. LO and ODF are evolving quite fast but there is still a long way to go. and ignoring m$ fans (some paid by m$ perhaps?) would help by reducing that evolution time... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK
On 23/02/2014, alexanderW f.alexander.wi...@gmail.com wrote: The proposal is only about using ODF, HTML, CSV and TXT as file formats. It doesn't mention which software would be used, so I don't see how your comment is relevant. You are unaware of the numbers of m$ fans that pollute this list demanding that the priority of LO is not to produce high quality native odf output, but instead to produce perfect m$ documents. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] HOW CAN I CONVERT A NUMBER IN LibreOffice CALC TO TEXT IN LibreOffice CALC?
On 23/02/2014, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Tom, please do NOT CC me directly, I am on the list and certainly don't need to see your messages twice. On 2014-02-22 7:01 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: As the User Support mailing list for a gateway project i think it's fairly good that we help people to learn that there are alternatives to top-posting without making anyone feel as unwelcome as certain other projects like to make their new users feel. Gratuitous, contradictory nonsense. That is hilarious coming from you Tom, since: 1. you never, EVER bottom/inline post, and This is not the case historically when corresponding to programmers on their list(s) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK
On 23/02/2014, Alexander Wilms f.alexander.wi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I already posted this on the LibreOffice Google+ and Facebook pages, but there are probably quite a few people subscibed to this list who are not following either one. Despite the self-generated hype, not every Tom, Dick and Harriet are interested in these social data-collation (sorry media) tools. The UK government plans to move to open standards like ODF and HTML and apparently Microsoft didn't know that people can voice their opinions on the proposal since January and started to spread some FUD once again a few days ago. If you think that truly open standards are a better solution than OOXML, then it'd be beneficial if you registered on the standards.data.gov.uk page and commented. In 3 days, comments will be closed. Thanks for informing us, but in addition users have to be educated about the benefits of _not_ using LO and an m$ clone and actually promote the odf standard themselves. Continual bug reports about m$ suggest otherwise. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open plain text with double-spacing
On 20/02/2014, nicolai.ros...@gmail.com nicolai.ros...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly. As I said in my last message, I feed plain text into a LaTeX compiler. I want to edit LaTeX files in an environment with both (i) double-spaced lines, and (ii) serif fonts. No text editor I'm aware of can do both. LibreOffice Writer can. You should be able to achieve this by configuration of default settings in lyx, which in case you are unaware can compile latex also. It's just awful to write prose in single-spaced lines and monospaced fonts. Writer is way more readable. If you really prefer a text-editor, jedit offers nice ways to make text look nice, including choice of background colour. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Open plain text with double-spacing
On 19/02/2014, nicolai.ros...@gmail.com nicolai.ros...@gmail.com wrote: However, I couldn't get (ii). I tried to create a template in which the Preformatted Text style looks the way I want it to be, and then I made this template default. But LibreOffice Writer just ignores the default template when opening plain text files. This reads like a bug behaviour; is it related to: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54081 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] svg image format import bug
Readers, A bug has been reported about the failure of LO to display text created with an svg image: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32248 Can anyone please confirm this occurs in the latest stable version of LO writer? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: svg image format import bug
On 18/02/2014, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Confirmed on 4.1 and 4.2 branch. Apparently this doesn't happen with all svg files. And inserting an svg with text within a document isn't a problem either. To clarify, the scenario is creating an svg image and adding a text node _within_ that image file; the vector lines are successfully visible when imported in Writer, but the text within the image is invisible. Any existing text in the Writer document remains unchanged after image import. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] status of Microsoft Office compliance with ODF support?
On 14/02/2014, M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote: Greetings, here is the question, you're welcome to pass it around as much as you see fit: what is the ACTUAL, current status of Microsoft Office compliance with support for the OpenDocument Format? Is there something specific that isn't supported yet? What, how.. Case stories, tests, reports, whatever, all pointers are welcome. Thanks in advance! See https://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg26889.html. There is a similar comparison web page for text documents. Search this mailing list or ask m$, -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Neat Writer Feature -- Relative Font Sizes
On 13/02/2014, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: Ahh, control. That's one of the reasons I like LO; it gives me control over *everything*. By comparison, when I've used LaTeX, I've been overcome by the Not convinced. beautiful results, but the trade-off is that I lose control. What control is lost in latex? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Neat Writer Feature -- Relative Font Sizes
On 13/02/2014, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: e-letter wrote, What control is lost in latex? Fair question, and I probably should have worded it better. Yes, with LaTeX, you can control everything, but (at least in my experience) the learning curve to gain that control can be daunting. The GUI of LyX makes things easier, but even then, if you want total control, you're mixing in raw TeX commands with options selected from a menu, all the while throwing in a long list of preamble commands, all of which can take a long time to learn. The point and click options in LO make things *so* much more accessible. Of course, I'll be the first to admit that LO can't match the professional final output of LaTeX, (especially with LaTeX's OSF font options and the Microtype justification package), but it's getting closer, and certainly acceptable for my purposes. So, to make matters easier, when using LaTeX, I try to stick with the its default formatting, which results in a (voluntary) loss of control. OK, fair enough but as a latex user, was amazed to read a claim that LO provides greater control! :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour failure
On 07/02/2014, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I no longer follow these lists, so I'm of limited help. If gnumeric produces an ods file, Excel 2013 should attempt to read it. However, the format you gave as an example is not ODF and I am doubtful. I don't have gnumeric, so I can't check that case. Correct, the output provided previously was the native format; gnumeric was one of the first spreadsheets to use xml as a native file format. Below is an extract of the gnumeric output when the spreadsheet is saved as gnumeric ods (without foreign elements, a gnumeric option): table:table table:name=Sheet1 table:style-name=ta-v-lr table:table-column table:default-cell-style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468 table:style-name=ACOL-0/ table:table-column table:default-cell-style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468 table:style-name=ACOL-0 table:number-columns-repeated=255/ table:table-row table:style-name=AROW-0 table:table-cell table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468 office:value-type=float office:value=3 text:p3/text:p /table:table-cell table:table-cell table:number-columns-repeated=255 table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468/ /table:table-row table:table-row table:style-name=AROW-0 table:table-cell table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468 office:value-type=float office:value=5 text:p5/text:p /table:table-cell table:table-cell table:number-columns-repeated=255 table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468/ /table:table-row table:table-row table:style-name=AROW-0 table:table-cell table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468 office:value-type=float office:value=3 text:p3/text:p /table:table-cell table:table-cell table:number-columns-repeated=255 table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468/ /table:table-row table:table-row table:style-name=AROW-0 table:table-cell table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468 table:formula=of:=([.A1]*[.A2])/[.A3] office:value-type=float office:value=5 text:p5/text:p /table:table-cell table:table-cell table:number-columns-repeated=255 table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468/ /table:table-row table:table-row table:style-name=AROW-0 table:table-cell table:number-columns-repeated=256 table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468/ /table:table-row table:table-row table:style-name=AROW-0 table:number-rows-repeated=65531 table:table-cell table:number-columns-repeated=256 table:style-name=ACE-0x8a4a468/ /table:table-row /table:table Similarly, gnumeric output ods with foreign elements: table:table table:name=Sheet1 table:style-name=ta-v-lr table:table-column table:default-cell-style-name=ACE-0x9882780 table:style-name=ACOL-0/ table:table-column table:default-cell-style-name=ACE-0x9882780 table:style-name=ACOL-0 table:number-columns-repeated=255/ table:table-row table:style-name=AROW-0 table:table-cell table:style-name=ACE-0x9882780 office:value-type=float office:value=3 text:p3/text:p /table:table-cell table:table-cell table:number-columns-repeated=255 table:style-name=ACE-0x9882780/ /table:table-row table:table-row table:style-name=AROW-0 table:table-cell table:style-name=ACE-0x9882780 office:value-type=float office:value=5 text:p5/text:p /table:table-cell table:table-cell table:number-columns-repeated=255 table:style-name=ACE-0x9882780/ /table:table-row table:table-row table:style-name=AROW-0
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately?
On 05/02/2014, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote: That doesn't mean they can't/shouldn't learn. I wholly concur that top-posting is a scourge and especially if the post is not trimmed; sometimes I just skip posts since I cannot figure out what in the long tail of to and fro the poster is referring and replying to, esp top-posted one-liners that make no sense. it's just not worth it. True and Tom's post here is irrelevant to the issue why one _should_ bottom-post, trim and put comments in-line but he provides valuable understanding of the forces against the practice. The majority 90% posts are irrelevant... I don't see that we all will come to agreement so that cannot be the point of these discussions. I think we could give them some point if the one side would provide a succinct summary of what it considers good reasons for top-, and the other side provides good reasons for bottom-posting. at least that would or can shed light on the issues and lessen the heat. maybe. You're dreaming; each to their own. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Truce
On 06/02/2014, Peter West li...@pbw.id.au wrote: When I see someone hinting, suggesting, urging or just plain bullying a top-poster to reform his or her bad habits, I'll buy in. And of course, you can do the same thing if the shoe is on the other foot. At least we have an admission: it's a poor habit. Can we just let posters do their own thing? Let's drive however we like; rules are un-necessary! ;) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately?
On 05/02/2014, Peter West li...@pbw.id.au wrote: On 6/02/2014 5:31 am, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 01:37:52PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Bottom posting requires a ton of extra work such as trimming and such which office workers really do not have time for. Trimming is a sensible thing to do, whichever way you post. It's work for the poster, not the reader, and top-posting is a benefit for the reader, not (primarily) the poster. . I really hope you don't mean that trimming is a waste of time. Ever see a reply to a digest message that quoted the whole digest. What fun. But doesn't trimming undermine the argument? How can the discussion be read sequentially when bits of it have been deleted? Not really. The un-deniable fact: the English language convention is to read left-to-right, top-to-bottom. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately?
On 06/02/2014, pete nikolic pg.nikol...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:52 + Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) Such attitude is dying out. Modern devices almost entirely force people into top-posting and almost all people new to mailing-lists will have no idea about the possibility of doing anything other than top-posting. Some allow users to reconfigure their devices to bottom-post but it's beyond most users. Maybe it is time these so called modern devices got back into line then and forced bottom posting as standard Agree; for example, would love to get a new twitter client (ttytter is sadly abandoned) with posts in chronological order. Bottom posting requires a ton of extra work such as trimming and such which office workers really do not have time for. it might have been a better system but we let MS dictate how we do emailing and now we have to live with that or accept increasing unpopularity. Errr why does bottom posting require Loads of extra work . It's amazing how people do not comprehend how to use the 'end' key... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour failure
On 23/01/2013, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: ODF 1.0/1.1 did not specify a standard for spreadsheet formulas. Formulas were left implementation-specific. Microsoft did not support the OpenOffice.org-specific formulas. Instead, they used Excel-specific formulas in ODF 1.1. On input of a not-supported formula expression, Excel in Office 2007 and 2010 drops the formula and preserves the last-calculated value. Whether a wise choice or not, that is what's done. As Regina says, Office 2013 supports ODF 1.2, including its OpenFormula specification. OpenFormula is also used by current implementations of LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice when their documents are saved as ODF 1.2, so there is interoperability of formulas shared between ODF 1.2 implementing software. - Dennis -Original Message- From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 05:20 To: LibreOffice Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour failure e-letter wrote: after opening in m$ excel 2010 (yes, m$ can open ods spreadsheets, so use that format please!!!) , the formulas were lost, leaving only the result values in the spreadsheet cells. Instead of reporting another erroneous LO bug, does someone know how to forward this error with m4 excel 2010 to m$ bug reporting service? That is a well known feature of MS Office. Excel would replace formulas with calculated values. For some reason, MS thought that was appropriate, even though no other spreadsheet app does that. This was back in the days when MS was ramming their OOXML standard through ISO. I believe, though don't know, that this has been corrected in later versions of MS Office. This is one bug that can be laid squarely at the feet of MS and one might even suspect it was deliberate. Bottom line, there's nothing for LO to fix. As an alternative, can anyone confirm if formulae are kept in xml formatted spreadsheets, for example of gnumeric or LO calc xml spreadsheets are imported by m$? For example simple formula from gnumeric: ... gnm:Cells gnm:Cell Row=0 Col=0 ValueType=403/gnm:Cell gnm:Cell Row=1 Col=0 ValueType=405/gnm:Cell gnm:Cell Row=2 Col=0 ValueType=403/gnm:Cell gnm:Cell Row=3 Col=0=(A1*A2)/A3/gnm:Cell /gnm:Cells ... from LO calc, saved as fods: ... table:table-row table:style-name=ro1 table:table-cell table:formula=of:=([.A1]*[.A2])/[.A3] office:value-type=float office:value=5 text:p5/text:p /table:table-cell /table:table-row ... from LO calc, saved as m$ 2003 xml: ... Table ss:StyleID=ta1 Column ss:Width=64.2614/ Row ss:Height=12.8126 Cell Data ss:Type=Number3/Data /Cell /Row Row ss:Height=12.8126 Cell Data ss:Type=Number5/Data /Cell /Row Row ss:Height=12.8126 Cell Data ss:Type=Number3/Data /Cell /Row Row ss:Height=12.8126 Cell ss:Formula=of:=([.A1]*[.A2])/[.A3] Data ss:Type=Number5/Data /Cell /Row /Table ... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour failure
On 06/02/2014, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: As an alternative, can anyone confirm if formulae are kept in xml formatted spreadsheets, for example of gnumeric or LO calc xml spreadsheets are imported by m$? For example simple formula from gnumeric: ... gnm:Cells gnm:Cell Row=0 Col=0 ValueType=403/gnm:Cell gnm:Cell Row=1 Col=0 ValueType=405/gnm:Cell gnm:Cell Row=2 Col=0 ValueType=403/gnm:Cell gnm:Cell Row=3 Col=0=(A1*A2)/A3/gnm:Cell /gnm:Cells ... from LO calc, saved as fods: ... table:table-row table:style-name=ro1 table:table-cell table:formula=of:=([.A1]*[.A2])/[.A3] office:value-type=float office:value=5 text:p5/text:p /table:table-cell /table:table-row ... from LO calc, saved as m$ 2003 xml: ... Table ss:StyleID=ta1 Column ss:Width=64.2614/ Row ss:Height=12.8126 Cell Data ss:Type=Number3/Data /Cell /Row Row ss:Height=12.8126 Cell Data ss:Type=Number5/Data /Cell /Row Row ss:Height=12.8126 Cell Data ss:Type=Number3/Data /Cell /Row Row ss:Height=12.8126 Cell ss:Formula=of:=([.A1]*[.A2])/[.A3] Data ss:Type=Number5/Data /Cell /Row /Table ... Further investigation of the m$ output xml spreadsheet: ... Table ss:ExpandedColumnCount=1 ss:ExpandedRowCount=4 x:FullColumns=1 x:FullRows=1 ss:DefaultRowHeight=15 Row Cell Data ss:Type=Number5/Data /Cell /Row Row Cell Data ss:Type=Number3/Data /Cell /Row Row Cell Data ss:Type=Number3/Data /Cell /Row Row Cell ss:Formula==(R[-3]C*R[-2]C)/R[-1]C Data ss:Type=Number5/Data /Cell /Row /Table ... (Un)Surprisingly, m$ displays the value of the formula but discards the formula from the formula bar within the gui, even though a formula exists within the xml element. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 'deployment'
On 05/02/2014, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.com wrote: For the record, I've been a happy user of soffice even before the 1.0 release (I started being happy right after they dictched that awful desktop-over-desktop Start Office thing ;-) I miss that! :) And starmail too... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately?
On 04/02/2014, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: exactly; logic seems to be missing in some folks ;-) Here we go again... From: Peter West li...@pbw.id.au Date: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately? To: users@global.libreoffice.org Every now and then ossers (open source people) get a bee in their bonnet about something. Top-posting is one of those somethings. The most popular email clients default to top-posting. There's a reason for that. On a list, if you are interested in a particular topic, you will have been following along as it developed, generally pretty quickly. You know what the context is, and you just want to see what the latest contributor is saying. If you need to check the context, you scroll down. So top-posting satisfies the vast majority of use cases, and bottom-posting is a pain in the vast majority. Easy. The majority of humans on this planet have never seen a computer. Thanks for speaking on their behalf. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] diff of 2 docx files
On 04/02/2014, Peter West li...@pbw.id.au wrote: If you write the files out as .fodt (Flat XML) files from within LO, you will have straight XML files to compare. Beyond that, you could get the tika-app.jar from the Apache Tika project, which will let you extract plain text from the .fodt files and directly from the .odt files. On 4/02/2014 6:36 pm, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. Is it possible to have a diff between 2 .docx files in libreoffice? Or with any other tool, I do not really mind... Similarly, you could use the command terminal: libreoffice -convert-to fodt /path/to/m$file Then apply your diff tool. In addition, you could then use xslt to extract the elements/text of the fodt files. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Where is the documentation for soffice command line execution?
On 29/01/2014, Peter West li...@pbw.id.au wrote: There are plenty of snippets on the web about using soffice command line for document conversion, for example, but I cannot find documentation. Looking for 'soffice' in the LO help file yields no results. Anyone have any idea? The output from the command terminal seems sufficient: libreoffice -help -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Docx
On 29/01/2014, Qusai Al Haddad qusai.alhad...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Support, When liberOffice will support .docx 2010/2013 MS Office document. Please ask m$ when m$o will support 2014 odt document. http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg36224.html http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg35626.html Please do at least a minor search of the mailing list archives before you post... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] stall error, access taskjuggler report
Readers, Is anyone experiencing an error when opening a taskjuggler html report? Writer fails to open such files, stalling and no error reported in the command terminal. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] mail format
On 19/01/2014, doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 01/18/2014 06:32 PM, Peter West wrote: On 19 Jan 2014, at 6:12 am, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: (As an editor of a small (~1000 circulation) newsletter, it is important to me to use standards which are available and in common use by those with Windows PCs, Apple computers with either of two quite different operating systems, and Linux--the latter probably only by me!) That standard is odf; you should make a proposal within your group to use odt as your editing file format. If you are unable to convince accordingly, you should buy m$o; LO is not a free m$ clone. If others report problems with the odt standard (they need to report such bugs to the relevant organisation (http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg36224.html) OTOH, some of the sources are from fairly unsophisticated people, to whom pdf is probably less familiar than stp (a motor lubricant). Some of that input comes from .doc files, some from email (!) It is not too uncommon for latex collaborators to submit content as plain text in e-mail, then using version control to collate all input. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: What's syntax of xforms Edit Element Constraint Condition?
On 17/01/2014, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: Le 17/01/2014 12:04, e-letter a écrit : Hi, Anyone aware of the ability to use writer xforms with an xml database, i.e. to avoid an SQL database system? Not that I know of, my understanding was that you needed a server instance of some kind to host your forms and have a data store for your xml data. Perhaps you could do this with LO by starting it in server mode accepting incoming connections and opening an XML form on first start, but I have no idea whether that works in practice. The concept is to use a tool such as basex or existdb as an xml database server, so LO server mode should be necessary. LO would be used to create and populate a form offline, then send via e-mail to the server to be processed. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: What's syntax of xforms Edit Element Constraint Condition?
On 14/10/2013, Larry Evans cppljev...@suddenlink.net wrote: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e3/WG4015-UsingFormsInWriter.pdf Other's might find them useful. Yes, thanks. Anyone aware of the ability to use writer xforms with an xml database, i.e. to avoid an SQL database system? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] failing case for .docx import
On 07/01/2014, Kevin Buchs kevin.buchs.j...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a good example of a failure with a docx import for a document someone sent me created with MS Word. I'd be happy to submit it to someone at LO who could make use of it. The import is completely missing the text on the single page. Equally, please ask the source of the file to save a copy of the document in odt format, then assist in submitting a bug report to m$ to request their explanation for any data lost when m$o performed the format conversion to odt. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] new campaign suggestion; reciprocal bug reporting to m$
Readers, It is personally tiresome to constantly read: I received an m$ file, LO can't read it; and I used LO to create an m$ formatted file but the m$ recipient can't see it, etc.. A suggestion. For each of the above scenarios, let us inundate m$ with reciprocal reports of: I saved my m$o spreadsheet to ods and all my openformula-compliant functions disappeared. Please correct this bug; or: I sent a document in odt format to a client that uses LO and they complained about the poor quality of the document format. Please correct this error with your m$o software output... -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] immediate rename of command line converted documents
On 09/01/2014, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: e-letter wrote: If a m$ document is stored on a public web server (E.g. http://path.to.document.com/file.doc), is it possible to change directly the name of the converted file which is created in the local directory? Otherwise, 'mv' can be used after conversion, but it would be able to rename within the LO command options, something like: libreoffice -convert-to odt http://path.to.document.com/file.doc -outdir ~/tmp -rename-to newfilename.odt Once you have a document loaded into LO, you can use Save as to change the name and even format. Am aware. To clarify, the usage scenario is to perform this task via the command terminal, without opening the program graphical userface. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] immediate rename of command line converted documents
Readers, If a m$ document is stored on a public web server (E.g. http://path.to.document.com/file.doc), is it possible to change directly the name of the converted file which is created in the local directory? Otherwise, 'mv' can be used after conversion, but it would be able to rename within the LO command options, something like: libreoffice -convert-to odt http://path.to.document.com/file.doc -outdir ~/tmp -rename-to newfilename.odt -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Ask
On 03/01/2014, Paweł Piliszek p...@poliamid.com.pl wrote: Hello everybody, Mr Florian Effenberger advice me to write on this e-mail address so here I am:) I have a question about possibility to improve into Libre Office something what is called waterfall plot (In QtiPlot program). It is a kind of artificial 3D plot, where third dimension is only a constant period between curves. How it look You can see on attached files. Aas Files not attached to mailing lists. What is wrong with qtiplot? Do not use LO; use gnuplot, R, opendx, paraview for 3d plots -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] with styles, is not master document functionality unnecessary+
On 18/12/2013, Gabriel Risterucci cleyf...@gmail.com wrote: Master document are not only about sharing styles (in fact, I never saw them in this light), it's about splitting your work in easily manageable smaller files. I don't even know why having styles would concern having the possibility to create a master document. When you're working on a reasonnably large project, it's simply easier to split it. For example, having each chapter in it's own file, instead of loading one huge file. It's more stable and easier to navigate. Ahem, still don't get why you're mixing the presence of styles and master document. The only link I can think of is that a master document's style override the sub-documents, but even then... maybe you can clarify what you meant? Found a list of files in a directory, each file was quite small is size. That's what started to think whether a master document is appropriate or not. If styles are extensive in each of the small files, importing them into a new file would be expected to retain styles and therefore make navigation via 'navigator' to be more convenient than opening multiple individual files -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] with styles, is not master document functionality unnecessary+
Readers, Suppose a collection of documents each about 100kb size. What is the benefit of using master document function (presumably a gratuitous copy of m$), when styles function is available in LO? Surely it would be more stable and easier to manage if these files were imported into one new document? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] multiple file import
Readers, Is there a way to import multiple files into a new document? The existing function only allows multiples files to be imported successively, which is inefficient. If a directory contains file1 file2 file3 it would be beneficial to be able to select all files in the import dialogue window for automatic successive import into the new document. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] font liberation sans narrow, small capitals
On 04/12/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I just tried it with mine. Selecting small caps turns *lower case* letters into small upper case letters. It does *not* change upper case letters into smaller upper case letters. Yes, did not realise this behaviour, which is surprising. If a document is written with many acronyms typed in upper case and it is then decided to change to small capitals (better aesthetics!), the text has to be converted to lower case and then to apply the font effect. It's also surprising that small capitals is not an option available the menu bar option 'change case'. This is normal behavior with LO (and other word processors). The program takes your typed lower case letters and turns them into shrunken upper case letters. Those of us who are OCD about typography are put off by this manufactured imitation of true small caps. With the fake small caps, the stroke weight is noticeably lighter and the letter spacing noticeably tighter than with true small caps. Some fonts (such as Linux Libertine G) come with true small caps, in which the stroke weight will remain consistent with other letters and the letter spacing will be preserved. Other OpenType fonts have true small caps, but most programs (like LO) can't access them. They can be accessed by such programs as LaTeX/XeTeX and Adobe InDesign. True; how did you know libertine g is a font with true small caps? Is there a list of such fonts somewhere? Compared LaTeX small caps to LO (liberation sans narrow) and agree, the fake small caps has noticeable lighter weight, making the appearance poor. However the upper case size in liberation sans narrow seems small, almost removing the need for small capitals in this font. Probably much more than you wanted by way of response, but I do *love* typography. No, appreciated thanks! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] font liberation sans narrow, small capitals
Readers, If a document font style is set to 'liberation sans narrow' and the font effect 'small capitals' is applied (e.g. 'ABC'), there is no visible change. It appears that the style of the font is capitals in a smaller height, in which case this font effect is not necessary. Or, the font effect cannot be applied to this style. Opinions please, others? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office
On 30/11/2013, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Doug, all doug-2 wrote If you save your file in .doc 1997~2000 (or 1997~2003) every program will be able to open it. Never use .docx. IMHO the only way to change this is to send ODF files and ask the users at the other end to install a free ODF compatible software (LO or other) since it is costless, while refusing to do so means that on your end you would have to *buy* a software license from MS... Alternatively send odf documents and tell users they can open these file with m$o version2010, but there will be differences. Ask users to save odf documents and consider the comparison table for text documents: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/differences-between-the-opendocument-text-odt-format-and-the-word-docx-format-HA010355788.aspx -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Impress Slide Show
On 18/11/2013, Dave Liesse dslie...@liessefamily.net wrote: 2. Saved as .pps file. Copied presentation and audio file directory -- pathing kept intact -- to thumb drive. 3. Open .pps file on another computer that doesn't have LibreOffice installed. Slide show runs, music does not play. Confirmed music files are present. LO is not an m$ clone. Use the native file formats. Create odp format presentations and provide LO installation files on the dvd. Similarly, provide vlc, mplayer or similar software to play music files which should be in oga format. This slide show is for distribution to others via DVD, and I'm really getting frustrated with it. I'd hate to think that the hours I've spent on it have been wasted and that I have to start over with another application. But I can't assume anything about the software anyone else has, and just about everyone has the ability to view a .pps file regardless of their OS (I can be pretty sure, but not 100% positive, that everyone on my distribution list is using either Windows or Mac machines). Can anyone see anything I've overlooked? Alternatives exists, such as htmlslidy and prezi. It the slide show is seemingly of multimedia, could also use html5 and smil, delivering the presentation via a web browser (depending on smil use, in which case a smil player may be required as well). -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request - Categories for special characters
On 13/11/2013, Steve Gruspier s...@alfred.edu wrote: Hello: I was wondering if this was the place to request a feature. I was Perhaps as discussion, then submit via bugzilla. thinking the Special Character section is very cluttered. My feature request is a setting that would narrow down special characters to ones that are used in specific fields such as Engineering or Physics. Not a good idea; suppose 'ε' has different definitions for different disciplines. The dialogue window would have duplicates of each special character for each field because users would navigate to the field of personal interest and ignore other fields of knowledge. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Export as PDF using Calc
On 14/11/2013, Sunil Agrawal su...@armor5.com wrote: Hi Jay, Thanks for the response. I am using Linux and tried LO 3.5 and 4.0 but same behavior. I want to share the doc and the recipient might not have LO hence the need to convert to PDF. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is why are your using a pdf document and not using ods format or even another format for your documents. The pdf format is often used for file sharing when the recipient is expected to only view the results and not edit them. You should please use ods to promote LO; the native format can be seen on numerous spreadsheet software such as gnumeric and m$excel. Does m$ continue to remove formulae from spreadsheets and show only the results? If yes and your recipient does not need to view formulae, only results, native format ods will be acceptable to m$excel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] presentation question
On 13/11/2013, June Newman j...@binmail.net wrote: I have libreoffice installed on a mac with os x 10.8. If I prepare a presentation and put it on a flash drive, will it play on a windows computer. I don't have the right adapter to connect to a digital projector, and need to use a windows laptop. Alternatively, create the original presentation in native odp format, then export to pdf. You can then use a pdf viewer (e.g. acrobat, sumatrapdf) in presentation mode on any computer with the pdf viewer installed. P.S. remember to keep the presentation simple; people are attending to see you, not _yet another_ presentation of gratuitous dynamic graphics, comic sans type child text and other rubbish! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] impress default view
Readers,
Whenever an impress file is opened (e.g. enter
'http://www.taskjuggler.org/download/TaskJuggler-Workshop.sxi' in the
'load url' toolbar option), the LO window opens automatically
undesirable toolbars ('line and filling', 'presentation') and panes
('task', 'slide').
Is there a configuration file to control and change this behaviour?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using_LibreOffice_in_a_Web_Browser
On 16/02/2013, Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote: Where can i get more info on 'Using_LibreOffice_in_a_Web_Browser' i found this link: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Using_LibreOffice_in_a_Web_Browser What is the planning with this web-enabled stuff? What is wrong with using webdav? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Using_LibreOffice_in_a_Web_Browser
On 13/11/2013, Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote: On 13-11-2013 18:31, e-letter wrote: What is wrong with using webdav? LOL, good question, but did you really need 9 month to come up with this question? ;) :) I shall blame the other recent replies to this post which were in the latest digest and prompted me to find the original message :) I think webdav means that you need a local installation of (libre)office. (if not, please provide a link with more info) With a web-enabled version this is not necessary So, without reading all the posts, it seems there is a perceived demand to be able to edit an odf file stored on a remote server, via internet access and a web browser. So Mr Andreesen (netscape) was right after all: the web browser _is_ the operating system for some. The use case raises the interesting philosophical question: why create the remote-access document in odf, when html was designed for this specific purpose? If the document has relatively simple format and structure, the original document format for remote access surely should be html. If the document is complex (e.g. a spreadsheet with polynomial formulae, documents with maths equations, etc.), relying on internet connection and LO as a server program seems very high risk of causing document corruption if there's a drop in connection. Highly probable with (dominant in future if not already) mobile connectivity. Long-term, the aim should be to increase use and installations of LO and/or ODF to the same level as a web browser. Providing a LO server version seems a waste of programmers' time to do higher priority (less sexy) reduction in LO bugs. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] major issues
On 08/11/2013, Bekor Adams bekorad...@gmail.com wrote: Hello when i try to save a invoice as *Microsoft excel*https://www.google.com/search?biw=1440bih=772q=microsoft+excelspell=1sa=Xpsj=1ei=gxR5UvXTC_PTsASh1YHwBAved=0CCgQvwUoAA2007/2010 document it changes it to this below . I have looked him up on If you want to save an invoice in m$ format, why have you not bought a legal copy of m$? Save the document to native ods and tell us of any errors. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Creating LibreOffice Calc document from XML (or some other file?)
On 03/11/2013, Mario Splivalo ma...@splivalo.hr wrote:
Hi, all.
Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one
can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file. I'm not
sure if XML contained only the data which then populated the Calc
template, or the whole Calc data was in that XML (not even sure if the
source was XML or was it some other human-readable file), but I haven't
been able to locate that blog ever since.
The web is like a river; catch that fish when you see it, or it will
be gone forever! :)
I'd appreciate any info or pointers on how above mentioned can be achieved.
Create a flat ods file ('spreadsheet.fods') and examine the xml; you
could use xslt to convert your xml to a spreadsheet.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project
On 01/11/2013, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: But when we come to think of it, these people started somewhere, one day, to contribute, and while they all have their own reasons, we (the people in charge of marketing) thought that everybody has the ability to contribute. The question is: how can we make it 1)interesting 2) accessible 3)easy to understand what the various tasks are 4)possible to spread the word about it? Question 2 requires a definition of contribute, e.g. is a bug submission contribution? Is helping another user via the mailing list a contribution? Q5 answers above, therefore should appear in the survey before q2! Q11 what is the relevance of knowing users' locations? Agree with Mr Springer's message. LO people should simply read the mailing list; every random date, select a random number of mailing lists threads, read, analyse and consider whether further action is necessary. You will get much better information than a biased survey -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Huge security bugs
On 28/10/2013, Jan tumetuestumefaisdub...@gmail.com wrote: Today in good faith I downloaded and for trial your Libre Office pack. The fact that to date, you have failed to answer _any_ of the questions made by others, suggests that your original post was totally unjustified. Had you made such allegations to a commercial entity, you would possible face legal action for defamation. You should have the honour to retract your original claim. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] docx problems
On 25/10/2013, baldwin linguas baldwinling...@gmail.com wrote: It's ruining my business. I'm losing clients, losing money, and I have a family to feed. And I don't know what to do about it. OpenOffice won't write to .docx, and LibreOffice messes them up. Perhaps you should compare the editing process using m$. Explain to a customer that you are going to send two versions of the document (the m$ edit version with name file1.docx and the LO edit version file2.docx; don't tell that LO is being used!) and ask for confirmation which version is received in better condition. Hopefully both versions will have changed, in which case you now have the opportunity to demonstrate to the customer that m$docx is a dubious format to use. If format loss never occurred with m$doc, ask the customer to send their documents to you in that format and presumably you can continue to use LO. However, LO is not an m$ clone and long term, you should be advising your customer to create odf documents using LO (additional consulting opportunity for you?) Surely in business, you should be flexible in order to get paid? Would you really refuse a € 1000 invoice because of the need to buy € 50 software? ;) Good luck. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Document conversion problems
On 24/10/2013, Kai Moonbourn epimetr...@fastmail.fm wrote: I want to use a headless LibreOffice install for document conversion (using jodconverter, unless there is a better alternative), but right now there's a couple problems: Why use jodconverter? What is wrong with LO, e.g.: libreoffice -calc -headless -convert-to ods /path/to/m$spreadsheet 2. I need to disable extra space between identically spaced paragraphs (Right-click-Paragraph-Don't and space between paragraphs of the same style) by default. Don't understand; which dialogue window shows the text: don't and space? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 4 - Crashes handling frames...
On 16/10/2013, Christoph Mueller cmuel...@dm-technologies.com wrote: Hello, I just upgraded from LibreOffice 3.4 (I know, a bit late, but I am conservative). LibreOffice 3.4 always was a reliable choice both for writing books and other documents. However, it also sometimes crashed But less often than MS... :) , as a user of LO33 who values stability more than latest features Now, in the latest release 4.1.? (downloaded yesterday), its getting a nightmare. No chance to finish the document. Permanent crashes. I only can tell that it has to do with the frames. A suggestion: please create a test document and send to the LO QA department, to propose inclusion as a test document. More test cases should improve stability by preventing poor quality software version releases. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Retrieve a specific message from the ML
On 15/10/2013, Ady ady...@hotmail.com wrote: Assuming your are referring to digest mode, all is correct. Sometimes the delay to receive the retrieved message is quite long ( 10 minutes at a guess). No, I'm not referring to digest mode. I am referring to nomail mode, and then retrieving specific messages by using users+ge...@global.libreoffice.org. Surely, by definition nomail mode means that you do not receive any messages? The problem: there is no way to know the desired correct N for someone subscribed by users+subscribe-nom...@global.libreoffice.org so to be able to retrieve it. There are several ways to _read_ messages. There is no effective way to _retrieve_ a specific message (since the correct N is unknown to a nomail subscribed user). To the Admin(s) of the ML, any answer to this question? In my opinion use digest mode. For example, replying to the digest mode message will create a reply as so: On 15/10/2013, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 34322 through 34351): - [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing extensions - 34322 - Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com Therefore, sending the reply message to: 'users+get-34...@global.libreoffice.org' will retrieve the message shown above. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] downloaded .doc file will only open as read-only
On 28/09/2013, Michael Hartigan michael.harti...@gmail.com wrote: I have a job application in .doc format, which LibreOffice will only open in read-only mode. I need to fill in the fields and send it back to my prospective employer in .doc format. I have checked the file properties and it is not a read-only file. Sometimes such documents contain forms that are read-only; content can be added but the form cannot be edited. If it is required to edit the form (e.g. a table is mis-aligned), below are some example actions. Save the document to the local disk In the command terminal libreoffice -invisible -convert-to fodt m$documentname.doc Use a text editor to open the fodt file (m$documentname.fodt), search for the element 'ProtectForm' and change the attribute 'type' from true to false. Save the file In the command terminal libreoffice -invisible -convert-to odt m$documentname.fodt The last command is optional; converting to odt will be recognised by non-LO software such as m$ word, otherwise use LO to export the document to PDF if necessary. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Retrieve a specific message from the ML
On 13/10/2013, Ady ady...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to retrieve a specific message from the mailing list (so to reply to it), by sending an empty message to users+ge...@global.libreoffice.org as per the help from users+h...@global.libreoffice.org . I have already sent a mail according to the specific msg number I want to retrieve, but have not received an answer. If the msg number would be, say, 12345, is users+get-12...@global.libreoffice.org Assuming your are referring to digest mode, all is correct. Sometimes the delay to receive the retrieved message is quite long ( 10 minutes at a guess). -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Retrieve a specific message from the ML
On 14/10/2013, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/10/2013, Ady ady...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to retrieve a specific message from the mailing list (so to reply to it), by sending an empty message to users+ge...@global.libreoffice.org as per the help from users+h...@global.libreoffice.org . I have already sent a mail according to the specific msg number I want to retrieve, but have not received an answer. If the msg number would be, say, 12345, is users+get-12...@global.libreoffice.org Assuming your are referring to digest mode, all is correct. Sometimes the delay to receive the retrieved message is quite long ( 10 minutes at a guess). Sorry for the poor English..you are referring... :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
On 13/10/2013, CougarB couga...@gmail.com wrote: I took a look at Leo, Jedit, and OPML, and frankly, none of them are as convenient as M$ Word. I'm using Word as both a word processor and an outliner, and it's extremely convenient to be working on a document as an outline, then move over to a word processing mode without losing the outline structure, and work with formatting and other elements that are convenient in that view, and then move back to outlining without losing my formatting and other tools that are available in Word. When I'm writing in outline format, I even want to just experience my novel as it will be read on the page, and then go back to using the outliner. Without using m$, it would seem that the outliner feature may be one reason for document instability; how does moving of nodes cope with internal cross-references and bibliographic references for example? How stable is outliner functionality with images? The options to proceed: Change your behaviour and adapt to use LO writer styles Carry out benefit-cost analysis of you using m$ compared to learning programming to implement outline behaviour in LO, perhaps as an LO extension. In this case you should contact the LO programmers and others for further help to build such an extension. Use a text editor, then import to LO writer and apply styles accordingly (could use find replace function) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
On 13/10/2013, CougarB couga...@gmail.com wrote: I just got an email from someone who took notes at the same meeting as me. However, she brainstormed an entirely new direction, which was our agreement. Combining the two emails and breaking up every paragraph into separate points yielded 35 paragraphs of between 1 and 4 lines, totaling 78 lines, which is too much to display on a single page, especially with spaces between paragraphs. However with Word, with one click, I collapsed all the paragraphs into single lines--which is like code folding. As suggested by someone, freemind can achieve nice node collapse/expansion -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me
On 10/10/2013, CougarB couga...@gmail.com wrote: I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time technical writer in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a java house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to MS, that I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since they came along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and furthermore, the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole point, from my point of view. There are many outliner tools out there, why use a word-processor when a text editor such as Leo or Jedit can achieve outline functionality? Alternatively, use LO writer styles and the navigator toolbar. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: odt fodt conversion warning message
On 21/09/2013, julien2412 serval2...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi Nabbler, What LO version do you use? I don't find any odfflatxmlimport.xslt file neither in my LO install nor in Opengrok. (see http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/search?q=project=coredefs=refs=path=odfflatxmlimport.xslthist=) Do not know about opengrok Can someone else review the bug report (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69092) and confirm reproduction in version(s) 35 and/or 4? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Breaks in Writer
-- Forwarded message -- From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 08:49:34 +0100 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Breaks in Writer To: Robert Burnett r...@artl.org.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org On 07/09/2013, Robert Burnett r...@artl.org.uk wrote: Problem, I use writer and have a 2 page document that holds a table on each page. As time passes the size of the table on page one changes so that rows end up in page two. When this happens I do a table split and everything is fine. By default, tables are created with the function 'split table' activated. The problem arises when I attempt to remove the gap/break between the tables, this occurs when I need to join the tables on page two. The same problem albeit on page one occurs when I reduce the rows in the table on page one, the break rises from page two, so that I end up with a gap between two tables on the bottom of page one. The table merge is greyed out, no other action works so I have to close the document, open the document in microsoft and all I do is, place the cursor in the gap and hit cut, gap gone and the two tables are now joined, on either page. Replication: table 1 created with 40 rows, table 2 created with 20 rows. With the view of non-printed characters (menu bar|view|non-printing charachers (¶)), the paragraph break was removed from between the two tables. Then both tables were selected (ctrl+a) and merged (menu bar|table|merge tables). The navigator (f5) confirms that table 1 merges with table 2 and only table 2 remains in the document. How can I manage this in Libreoffice as it is embarrassing to have to close one software program and open another for such a simple task when other people are observing as it indicates a) I don't know what I am doing or b) libreoffice has a software issue. Below is an example: copy the source code below and save to your computer as an .fodt file (e.g. tabletest.fodt), the open the document using LO. You should be able to follow the instructions above to achieve a merged table. The mailing list did not accept the source code, which has been posted at 'pastebin': http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SHyuZyCY -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] odt fodt conversion warning message
Readers, An odt document was converted to the fodt format using the menu bar 'save as' option. Why is the option fodt listed nearest to the bottom, after m$ (?!), starwriter, text, html, aportisdoc ??? Native odf must be treated with greater respect and higher priority! LO is not an m$ clone! (end of complaint...) After closure of the odt document (which was opened via the command line, hence the ability to see the warning), the terminal reported the following warning: Warning: at xsl:stylesheet on line 2 of file:///path/to/libreoffice/basis3.3/share/xslt/odfflatxml/odfflatxmlexport.xsl: Running an XSLT 1.0 stylesheet with an XSLT 2.0 processor The equivalent fodt document was then opened in the command terminal, which reported the following (whilst the document remained open): Warning: at xsl:stylesheet on line 2 of file:///path/to/libreoffice/basis3.3/share/xslt/odfflatxml/odfflatxmlimport.xsl: Running an XSLT 1.0 stylesheet with an XSLT 2.0 processor How significant is this warning? The stylesheet is as follows: ?xml version='1.0' encoding=UTF-8? xsl:stylesheet version=1.0 xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xsl:output method=xml encoding=UTF-8 indent=yes/ xsl:template match=@*|node() xsl:copy xsl:apply-templates select=@*|node()/ /xsl:copy /xsl:template /xsl:stylesheet As root, the stylesheet was amended to change the version to '2.0' and the fodt re-opened without the warning error. Is this manual change likely to cause a problem with the intended use of the fodt file, subversion document control? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
On 14/08/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: display graphics, it's not very elegant. I've found that books with anything more than a stream of text create issues for the Kindle. Thankfully there are a multitude of other devices available with the better advantage of epub support. I have to wonder if the LO user guides are simply too complex for elegant translation to e-reader format. They should be; if an academic article with maths and graphics (e.g. http://downloads.hindawi.com/journals/jtc/2013/349870.epub) can be created, the LO user guides should be possible. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer
On 13/08/2013, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the 18 page introduction. Same result. No EPUB output file was generated. I noticed that Writer2epub doesn't like custom styles. It is apparently designed for fairly simple documents, using LO's built-in styles. It can't handle the elaborate formatting of the LO User Guides. That was an ambitious test! Perhaps LaTeX might be better: convert to (x)html using tex4ht and then compile the epub. Personally, would edit the xml using a text editor and compile the epub via the command terminal; compilation is surprisingly easy. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS file compatibility in 4.0+ - comments in .doc
On 13/08/2013, Rogier F. van Vlissingen vlisc...@gmail.com wrote: Ever since 4.0 I have had increasing problems with file compatibility with MSO... Consider this a blessing is disguise; the primary use of LO is to create and increase the quantity of odf documents, not to be a free m$ clone. Currently I am working on a project with MSO users and when I open a .doc which contains any comments, what happens is the last character BEFORE the comment anchor is reduced in font size, and therefore when you delete the comment, you now have to go into the text to fix the font size. Anyone had the same? I think it's time for a bug report. Why can't you afford to use a legitimate copy of m$? Are you seriously suggesting programmers' time should be spent on a minor proprietary format comment feature instead of improving software QA for LO odf??? Astonishing. The following hyperlink shows high priority bugs already requiring resolution (especially regressions which are indicative of a failure in software QA): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Useful_Queries Please review. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Alfresco integration
On 06/08/2013, Josh Bitto jbi...@onlineschool.ca wrote: I'm using 4.2.c community of Alfresco and I'm having an issue where viewing a spreadsheet file in preview only shows it in portrait. I'm wondering if it possible to show in landscape. I've touched base in the Alfresco forums and another member suggested that I look at LibreOffice and see how it handles the document. Has anyone had issues similar to mine? Most users are probably individuals and therefore have no need for collaborative document management, whilst corporate users will mostly use m$o/shareoffice. Maybe try apache open office mailing list, where there may be a better chance of document management users within the oracle community. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.
On 02/07/2013, Sajan Parikh sa...@noppix.com wrote: Opera have also just announced recently that they will be releasing a standalone mail client as well, with Linux support. At the time of announcement early builds for Windows and Macs were available and Linux was coming soon. Useful to know. Prefer to use claws-mail as e-mail client and opera as a very good RSS reader. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: user support options
On 10/06/2013, wyattbiker wyattbi...@gmail.com wrote: Just as a suggestion. LibreOffice should convert to using normal forums. Lists confuse people and dont want to get every single post. Personally, no thanks. If you don't want all messages, read the web pages instructions about mailing list options 'nomail' and 'digest' modes. OpenOffice ( http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ ) has great and easy to use forums. You are free to revert ;) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] disable save as in odt document
On 11/06/2013, Vieri rentor...@yahoo.com wrote: Not really, Tom. It may sound crazy to some but it doesn't to me. It all depends on what you need to achieve. In my case, we're generating odt docs in a webdav repository and serving them to LO clients. We want the clients to always save to the same location, same file name. It wouldn't make any sense at all to save as and would only give us problems. Instead of a macro, have you considered to use the xforms functionality of LO? This should be able to provide the client validation that you require. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators
On 08/05/2013, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 8 May 2013 08:41, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/05/2013, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, On 4 May 2013 18:47, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) That is a very generous offer but i suspect you would have more fun and be more useful in other areas of the project!! [...] Would you please moderate their posts particularly? ;) Please mark top-post spam: delete A deliberate addition to see who would bite the bait and prefer not to discuss the original topic; it worked ;) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] spreadsheet cell date format behaviour failure
Readers, Please review bug 36175 and confirm (or not) if the behaviour reported is also observed personally; thanks: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36175#c8 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators
On 04/05/2013, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, On 4 May 2013 18:47, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) That is a very generous offer but i suspect you would have more fun and be more useful in other areas of the project!! That is your opinion. But I think it is very arrogant of you to decide for someone else, where he would have more fun. Also discouraging someone from a job that he's willing to take on, is counterproductive. Agreed. You are new to the project and really should keep your options open for a bit longer. Perhaps just become more familiar with the types of posts that do get to this list. It's an extremely high-traffic list so it's going to need a LOT of people. For the project as a whole i think it would be better if you could be a moderator for the Devs Mailing List, not the Users List! How do you come to this conclusion? What makes you think, that he would be a good moderator for the dev list (which isn't even in our infrastructure) but not for the users list? If you look at a random selection of typical replies, this is a common occurrence. On the other hand i think Anne and others that have been here a while would be perfect for this list What makes Anne perfect for this list? I have a very hard time reading (and understanding) her posts. But I would never say, that she is (or is not) perfect for the moderator job. How you write your posts has nothing to do with moderating a message. It is either accepting or rejecting an email from someone else for the list. And being able to figure out, if an email is spam or not (everything that comes from *mail.ru often is). Agreed; both these writers often publish gibberish. With such moderation, spam is likely to increase ;) Honestly, I was put off by your reply to RD Vaishnav's generous offer. We do need more moderators on the different lists... Would you please moderate their posts particularly? ;) Please mark top-post spam: delete -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility LO/MSO
On 07/05/2013, Milos Sramek sramek.mi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thank you all for your answers. In fact I take part in a larger scale testing of interoperability of formats, since open source software is currently considered by Slovak administration as and alternative to the standard MS stuff. If everything goes really well, there will be a transition period when open source (say, LO) and proprietary applications will be used in parallel and documents in various formats will be interchanged. Therefore, we want to understand the situation and prepare a guide (use this feature, avoid that feature), which would help in creating documents which can safely be opened by the other tool. I am aware of the fact that open standards like OOXML, which are more-or-less in hands of only one company (even if it is an ISO standard) will always be a problem. Simultaneously, MS support of ODF will probably never be perfect. But a state administration does not need complex features and formatting - therefore we want to prepare the guide which would tell them, what is safe to use. You may want to review the following guide published by m$: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/differences-between-the-opendocument-text-odt-format-and-the-word-docx-format-HA010355788.aspx If this is a bug in LO I will file a bug in its Bugzilla. If it is a bug in MS2013, we will ask MS to correct that (there is a guy from Microsoft in our team who promised to do that). If they do not correct it, it will be a nice argument against using MSO at all. Could you also ask your m$ guy to ask that m$ publish in public domain all their bugs? :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] prevent automatic reduction of fractions
Readers, Is it possible to prevent calc from automatic reduction of fractions? For example for a cell formatted as data type 'fraction': 10/30 becomes 1/3. How to stop this behaviour, so that '10/30' remains the values in the cell? -- LO35 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] m$ office to gnu/linux rumour
Readers, Rumours (kool-aid for the internet!) abound that m$ considering office 2014 for gnu/linux. Any substance anyone? Nice competition for LO? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Hidden field in bibliography
On 21/02/2013, John Talbut j...@dpets.co.uk wrote: Hello, I am finding my way around using the bibliography facility in writer and I am coming across one or two issues. Here is one. You are making a big mistake trying to use LO, and word-processors in general, with a high quality bibliography. Use LyX and/or LaTeX. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly
On 19/02/2013, upscope upsc...@nwi.net wrote: Both of the above LO versions have the problem. I can open a .docx document if it is all text with no problems. If the document like a new letter I get in .docx format is opened the graphics are missing, or partically there or off set from where they should be. Tell the source to re-send in odt format, or use google docs to view. I even created a new user and logged in as him, then using SUSE version of LO4.0.0.3 tried the same document with the same results. Also I just took a copy of a news letter I am getting ready to send out ( generated in .odf format) and saved it as a .docx document. the formating was totally messed up and graphics were messed up also (graphics in wrong place, text in wrong place probably caused by graphics being wrong, some graphics just plain blank box, Good. You should be sending the newsletter in odt format; most modern software can view it, otherwise pdf/html should be used. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] another m$ error copied by LO?
Readers, Advance warning: for statisticians. There is an interesting thread of posts in the R mailing list, about comparison between 'nls' and 'power trend line': http://www.mail-archive.com/r-help@r-project.org/msg192684.html Is this m$ error repeated in LO calc? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save as doc crashes LO
On 13/02/2013, steveedmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote: Hi. Saving a writer document as .doc crashes my LO on OpenSuse. Could someone please try on 4.0 and if it persists I will file a bug. perf_calc_translations.odt http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4037263/perf_calc_translations.odt It is much more important to know: does LO crash when creating an odt file? Considering odf files are opened successfully in many programs, including m$, there is little justification to use LO as an m$-clone. We should want to see more questions posted to m$ support: how do I open an odt file just received? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 12/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MS Excel file macros cause infinite loop of errors
On 11/02/2013, todd.e.moore todd.e.mo...@gmail.com wrote: Originally I posted under my todd.mo...@dynamicsystemsinc.com account.Unfortunately, I need the macros enabled. The spreadsheet is developed by another company and includes features/functions that we must use to properly submit requests.The behavior I observe is that after changing security settings to allow the macros to run, I receive a macro execution error that pops up on the screen. Clicking on the equivalent of ok, ignore, cancel just displays another error message. This continues for what seems about 30 clicks. Then the boxes no longer appear. Trying to do anything in the UI, even closing the file, starts the error message deluge again.I noticed the issue in v3.x.x and hoped that with v4.0.0 there may have been changes that would cope with the macros in this file. Unfortunately, the problems persist.Attaching file (1MB zip file containing a single MS Excel ) that causes this issue to occur. File_with_Bad_Macro.zip http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4036499/File_with_Bad_Macro.zip Amazed that a private company receives a proprietary file from another private company and asks the libre software community to solve a proprietary problem. LO is not an m$ clone. A business that can't afford to pay m$ licences, most probably shouldn't be in business. How does odf benefit from LO being used to solve your problem? Have you contacted the source of the document and asked them to re-format the document to ods? What did they say? ;) Have you contacted m$ and asked them to make their software easier to use with non-m$ products? Did you get a reply ? ;) How much company time have you wasted, compared to the cost of buying a legitimate copy of m$? Is your MD aware? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 11/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! I cannot open a particular file in LibreOffice, but I can open it in Microsoft Office. Good for you; your copy of m$ is legal? I would appreciate it if you take a look. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390 Not a bug, unless the original document was created in odf. Did you contact the author and explain that the document cannot be opened in LO? What did the author say? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Find out a name of inserted image in Impress
On 10/02/2013, v...@ukr.net v...@ukr.net wrote: So, I do not remember which slide contained which image or video. How can I find out the name of the inserted image or video file? Use the navigator function. Select the option to view all shapes. In future, give each inserted image a unique name. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] character kerning
On 07/02/2013, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 02/07/2013 01:37 AM, e-letter wrote: On 05/02/2013, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Since 'liberation serif' is a font that most people outside of the LO/Linux world would not be using, I think you should look into a more common font used by publishing houses. I would look into changing the fonts used and see which one works best for your needs. If you are dealing with a publisher, ask which fonts they use. Is there a cross-platform font available, in both sans serif and serif styles? Are you asking if there is one font that is installed on most Windows, MacOSX, and Linux OS installs? Or are you asking if there is a font set that can be installed on them? Ideally yes, otherwise a font in gnu/linux that has equivalents in the other systems. The problem really is not with your systems, but what others have installedon there. If you want your document to work on their systems, with the same font and such, you must embed the fonts in their documents. Understood for pdf, but for odf it would be nice if a document could be distributed for editing and the font remained unchanged. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] character kerning
On 05/02/2013, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Since 'liberation serif' is a font that most people outside of the LO/Linux world would not be using, I think you should look into a more common font used by publishing houses. I would look into changing the fonts used and see which one works best for your needs. If you are dealing with a publisher, ask which fonts they use. Is there a cross-platform font available, in both sans serif and serif styles? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] character kerning
Readers, The classic text 'lorem ipsum...' shows how kerning of characters in writer is poor (compared to LaTeX anyway): Lorem ipsum dolor sit _amet_, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad _minim_ _veniam_, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum. If the text above is copied into writer, for a font such as 'liberation serif', examples of poor character kerning are indicated by the underscore (_) character. Any way to improve this? -- LO35413 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Navigation in Documents
On 03/02/2013, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Buttons for forward/back are not on the default Acrobat Reader toolbar, at least not on Windows, but they are there and can be added to the toolbar using the available customization dialogs. Out of curiosity, I just found out where to add the same functions to my QuickStart toolbar in Microsoft Word 2013, where they work find in OpenDocument Text (.odt) documents too. Have I missed these in LibreOffice somewhere? Agree. The navigation dialogue window seems to allow navigation of a document via various elements (page, section, graphics, etc., but not (internet) hyperlinks nor cross-references. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Suggests
On 03/02/2013, Roberta irobert...@gmail.com wrote: Can you make libreoffice's interface more similar to the office 2013 one's? No thank you. Can you stop complaining, open your wallet and buy m$??? Another thing... why doesn't artwork work on writer??? Why doesn't LO draw documents open in visio??? Ask m$! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour failure
On 23/01/2013, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: ODF 1.0/1.1 did not specify a standard for spreadsheet formulas. Formulas were left implementation-specific. Microsoft did not support the OpenOffice.org-specific formulas. Instead, they used Excel-specific formulas in ODF 1.1. On input of a not-supported formula expression, Excel in Office 2007 and 2010 drops the formula and preserves the last-calculated value. Whether a wise choice or not, that is what's done. As Regina says, Office 2013 supports ODF 1.2, including its OpenFormula specification. OpenFormula is also used by current implementations of LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice when their documents are saved as ODF 1.2, so there is interoperability of formulas shared between ODF 1.2 implementing software. To clarify (without m$ 2013 to view), when a spreadsheet in LO is created in the (default) version 12, a user with m$2013 will be able to see formulae, whereas earlier versions e.g. m$2012 will shown only the results of the formulae calculations. Therefore, users should be encouraged to create new spreadsheets in the native LO odf and encourage recipients to either: (a) use LO or buy m$2013 in order to view openformula formulae or (b) view formulae results _only_ in earlier legacy m$ software. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
