Re: can't reclaim disk space on F26 install

[shriya mulay]

I had same problem, I did this :
Storage Configuration: custom
click Done
you will see new window where you will see free space left and your
previously installed fedora partitions, all I did was to click on each
partiton and ticked on reformat option on the right side of the window and
then clicked on update settings.
This will create mountpoints for your new fedora 26 .
hope this works for you!!

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 2:13 AM, Dave Mitchell  wrote:

> I'm trying to install F26 on an i386 system with a single 119Gb SSD.
> It previously had F22 installed, with a straightforward partitioning
> scheme:
>
> sda1 ext4 500Mb /boot
> sda2 LVMencrypted, and containing /, swap, /home
>
> I booted off Fedora-Workstation-Live-i386-26-1.5.iso, and in the
> installer, I selected:
>
> Storage Configuration: automatic
> ticked: "I would like to make additional space available"
> ticked: "Encrypt my data"
> done
>
> I then chose an encryption password, then the "Reclaim disk space"
> dialogue appeared. I selected
> Delete all
> but the "Reclaim space" button remains greyed out
>
> The "reclaim disk space" screen shows:
>
> disk name   filesystem reclaimable space  action
> -   -- -  --
> 119.2 GiB ATA ...sda(blank)118.94 GiB totalDelete
>   ext4   sda1   ext4   187MiB of 500 MiB   Delete
>   fedora sda2   LVMnot resizable   Delete
>   Free space   1.3 MiB
>
> Ay the bottom of the screen it has:
>
> LHS: 1 disk: 118.94 GiB reclaimable space
> RHS: Total selected space to reclaim: 3.24 GiB
>  Installation requires a total of 5.59 GiB for system data
>
> Then there is Cancel button and an inactive (greyed out) "Reclaim space"
> button.
>
> Any ideas how to proceed from here?
> For this install I'm happy to for the current disk contents to be
> completely blown away and for Fedora to partition the whole disk as it
> sees fit.
>
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Re: Google Chrome won't die

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 18:29 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:15:06 -0700
> Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone else seen this?  What's going on?
> 
> I haven't seen it that bad, but there is a setting buried
> down in the advanced stuff somewhere that says if chrome
> should really exit or if it should hang around in the
> background to bog down your system.
> 
> Found it:
> 
> Settings > Advanced > System > Continue running background apps

That seems to fix things.  But this looks like a pretty serious bug for chrome 
hanging around to lock up the system.

Thanks - jon

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Re: F25: How to force fsck at boot?

[Chris Murphy]

/forcefsck is obsolete

Modern file systems are expected to determine themselves if fsck is
needed. XFS, ext4, btrfs, all can do log replay at mount time and that
fixes the vast majority of problems. On XFS and Btrfs, if log replay
has problems, mount will fail and it's expected the user manually runs
repair.

So right off the bat, /forcefsck would apply only to ext4 on Fedora.
But there's another gotcha which is the file system has to be
consistent enough to mount ro in order to find the forcefsck hint. So
it's kinda unreliable. Next it required the use of preen on a read
only mounted volume, which upstream doesn't recommend. From e2fsck man
page.

"Note that in general it is not safe to run e2fsck on mounted
filesystems.  The only exception is if the -n option is specified"

In a somewhat recent systemd, it just pre-emptively runs the generic
fsck on rootfs before ro mount. On ext4 this causes e2fsck to get run
prior to ro mount which if the file system state is clean, it's a no
op. On XFS and Btrfs fsck is always a no op.


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Re: Google Chrome won't die

[Tom Horsley]

On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 15:15:06 -0700
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

> Has anyone else seen this?  What's going on?

I haven't seen it that bad, but there is a setting buried
down in the advanced stuff somewhere that says if chrome
should really exit or if it should hang around in the
background to bog down your system.

Found it:

Settings > Advanced > System > Continue running background apps
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Google Chrome won't die

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

Attempting to terminate google chrome by clicking the "X" window decoration
closes sometimes leaves some of chrome's back end in existence.  When this
happens, further attempts to start chrome fail and parts of the system lock up
in strange ways.  Entering "$ chrome" into a shell locks up the shell; "^C" and
"^Z" have no effect;  the process(es) can't be killed by using "kill -9
"; if the user logs out, no login is possible and the system has to be
rebooted.  

Terminating chrome by using the build in exit command: [Customize and control
Google Chrome]->Exit  work OK.

Has anyone else seen this?  What's going on?

Thanks - jon
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Re: can't reclaim disk space on F26 install

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 12 August 2017, Dave Mitchell sent:
> Any ideas how to proceed from here?
> For this install I'm happy to for the current disk contents to be
> completely blown away and for Fedora to partition the whole disk as
> it sees fit.

I also had trouble reusing an old hard drive for installation, it
(anaconda's installation routine) wouldn't remove an old partition, no
matter what I tried.  It hid it from view, but it was still there, and
the installer would only try to use around half the drive capacity.

I booted the live image, used its gparted tool to obliterate my entire
hard drive, then ran the install to hard drive routine, successfully.

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can't reclaim disk space on F26 install

[Dave Mitchell]

I'm trying to install F26 on an i386 system with a single 119Gb SSD.
It previously had F22 installed, with a straightforward partitioning scheme:

sda1 ext4 500Mb /boot
sda2 LVMencrypted, and containing /, swap, /home

I booted off Fedora-Workstation-Live-i386-26-1.5.iso, and in the
installer, I selected:

Storage Configuration: automatic
ticked: "I would like to make additional space available"
ticked: "Encrypt my data"
done

I then chose an encryption password, then the "Reclaim disk space"
dialogue appeared. I selected
Delete all
but the "Reclaim space" button remains greyed out 

The "reclaim disk space" screen shows:

disk name   filesystem reclaimable space  action
-   -- -  --
119.2 GiB ATA ...sda(blank)118.94 GiB totalDelete
  ext4   sda1   ext4   187MiB of 500 MiB   Delete
  fedora sda2   LVMnot resizable   Delete
  Free space   1.3 MiB

Ay the bottom of the screen it has:

LHS: 1 disk: 118.94 GiB reclaimable space
RHS: Total selected space to reclaim: 3.24 GiB
 Installation requires a total of 5.59 GiB for system data

Then there is Cancel button and an inactive (greyed out) "Reclaim space"
button.

Any ideas how to proceed from here?
For this install I'm happy to for the current disk contents to be
completely blown away and for Fedora to partition the whole disk as it sees fit.

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Re: Covert a Shockwave Flash File (.swf) to something useful

[Ted Roche]

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:
> You could play them in a virtual machine, and record the
> screen :-).

Ah, the analog hole! I could just record it on my smartphone :) Ain't
technology grand!


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Re: Covert a Shockwave Flash File (.swf) to something useful

[Robbi Nespu]

Instead of setup VM, just open swf via browser and record the screen

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 3:35 AM, Tom Horsley  wrote:

> You could play them in a virtual machine, and record the
> screen :-).
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Re: Covert a Shockwave Flash File (.swf) to something useful

[Alessio Ciregia]

On Aug 12, 2017 21:36, "Tom Horsley"  wrote:

You could play them in a virtual machine, and record the
screen :-).


Fanciful :-)
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Re: Covert a Shockwave Flash File (.swf) to something useful

[Tom Horsley]

You could play them in a virtual machine, and record the
screen :-).
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Re: F25: How to force fsck at boot?

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 6 August 2017, Ahmad Samir sent:
> The root / filesystem isn't force-checked with /forcefsck; you'd have
> to use fsck.mode=force kernel boot parameter. I tested that on a
> clean
> install in a vm. The other filesystems listed in fsck are checked
> AFAICS.
> 
> systemd is deprecating /forcefsck, have a look at [1].
> 
> [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/search?q=forcefsck=

I thought the point of having a /forcefsck file is that software can
touch it to automate triggering it.  I doubt that can be done with a
kernel parameter.  This seems a really backward step, to me.

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Re: installing Fedora 26 to a SSD

[Tim]

Tim:
>>> Have we got to the stage where the default install options for 
>>> Fedora work fine with a SSD, or should I be tweaking something?


Rick Stevens:
> For many users, LVM is somewhat irrelevant. I use LVM because I often
> end up expanding filesystems by adding PVs to the VGs the LVs are
> built on (lots of acronyms there!), but my use cases are outside the
> normal desktop users.

Yes, I think most users will only have a single drive.  And if they do
add another drive, chances are that they don't want to pretend that
they're one bigger drive.  Not to mention the fun and games of dealing
with a system when half of a large virtual drive dies and takes out all
your data.

> The "annoyances" when moving the drive to another system can be
> reduced by naming the LVs logically--typically I use the host name as
> part of the LV and VG names. Therefore if I have to move an LV from
> host "bigdog" to host "hamster" there's little chance of a name
> collision.

I've done that kind of thing in the past.  But if you forget, name
clashes aren't insurmountable (pun intended), but a pain to have to
deal with.  But even with unique naming, just mounting LVM is more
hassle than other schemes.  You can't just double click on a drive icon
and have the system work it out for you, as if you'd plugged in a USB
stick.  Or, at least on *my* system, that's never worked.  I had to use
command line tools to discover the drive and the names of its parts,
then manually mount the volume then group as two more steps.

> My recommendations for SSD:
> 
>   Use ext4 filesystems (they don't poke the journal as much as
>   JFS or Btrfs).

I went for EXT4 as being closer to what I'm familiar with.  I think
only BTRFS and LVM were the other two options presented by the
installer.

>   Reduce swappiness ("vm.swappiness=1" in /etc/sysctl.conf)

I'll have to look into that, I've read about it long ago, but forgotten
all about it.  The quick summary on Wikipedia gives a small range of
example values, that does sound like it's at the extreme end, though I
don't know much actual difference 1 verses 10 versus 60 does.

On my system I have

cat /proc/meminfo 
MemTotal:4045280 kB
MemFree: 1792672 kB
MemAvailable:2767436 kB
Buffers:  106176 kB
Cached:  1062820 kB
SwapCached:0 kB
Active:  1410028 kB
Inactive: 572900 kB
Active(anon): 695352 kB
Inactive(anon):   163560 kB
Active(file): 714676 kB
Inactive(file):   409340 kB
Unevictable:  48 kB
Mlocked:  48 kB
SwapTotal:   8388604 kB
SwapFree:8388604 kB
Dirty:   152 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages:813968 kB
Mapped:   377180 kB
Shmem: 44992 kB
Slab: 158444 kB
SReclaimable: 111848 kB
SUnreclaim:46596 kB
KernelStack:7952 kB
PageTables:39580 kB
NFS_Unstable:  0 kB
Bounce:0 kB
WritebackTmp:  0 kB
CommitLimit:10411244 kB
Committed_AS:4347292 kB
VmallocTotal:   34359738367 kB
VmallocUsed:   0 kB
VmallocChunk:  0 kB
HardwareCorrupted: 0 kB
AnonHugePages: 0 kB
ShmemHugePages:0 kB
ShmemPmdMapped:0 kB
CmaTotal:  0 kB
CmaFree:   0 kB
HugePages_Total:   0
HugePages_Free:0
HugePages_Rsvd:0
HugePages_Surp:0
Hugepagesize:   2048 kB
DirectMap4k:  173696 kB
DirectMap2M: 4020224 kB


So I don't know what amount of using swap I need to be able to do.


>   Put things that change a lot (swap, /var/log, /tmp) on rotating
>   media or RAMdisk to reduce writes to SSD

I only have one disk in the system, so swap is on the SSD, I see the
system automatically set up a tmpfs for /tmp, and /var/log is just an
ordinary directory.

>   Use fstrim periodically

That I've briefly looked at, and it's confusing as to whether it's
actually worth using it.

> And MOST important:
> 
>   Back the sucker up REGULARLY AND OFTEN! SSDs tend to die
>   suddenly and typically without much warning and it's quite
>   difficult (if not impossible) to recover any data on them.

I tend to not store important stuff on client computers.  It makes
updating easier, and I can carry on working on stuff on any PC, rather
than be tied to the one I stored things on.

> I like SSDs. I like their speed. I don't trust them much with
> critical data.

This is the first time I've used one.  I was very surprised by the 13
second cold boot up of the new installation.  I haven't had a computer
come up that fast since my old Amiga 1200.

I wonder what the longevity is for SSDs that aren't being used (*),
compared to hard drives.  

* Such as backing up something and putting the SSD on a shelf.

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Re: F25 -> F26 printer problems

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 11 August 2017, Wells, Roger K. sent:
> However within the "Printers" application available from Gnome "All 
> Settings"  the 4630 "Printer Details" shows the printer address as 
> "localhost" (even though Cups shows the correct address) and any
> attempt to print from an application, e.g. LibreOffite Writer fails.

I'm wondering if now (referring to later messages in the thread) that
you've got printing working again, do you still see erroneous printer
addresses listed?

On my Fedora 26 system, CUPS is stuffing up, and I see that the
information listed about each printer is wrong.  For example. I see
this:

---+-
Queue name: steamy
Description: HP LaserJet P3015
Location:  print.lan.example.com (Port: 631)
Make and model: Remote printer: HP LaserJet Series CUPS v1.1
Status: Idle
---+-

But "location" should actually be showing the location information that
I've set into CUPs (the name of the room the printer is sitting in),
not the network address of the printer.  What it's doing is the wrong
use of the location field.  Location is human information for users to
be able to locate the right printer to get their prints from.

And the "Make and Model" should really be a description of the printer,
too, not the driver info.  Though that is what the CUPS server (a very
old installation) does say on its own page.

The old CUPS' server page says this:

-
steamy
HP LaserJet Series CUPS v1.1
Description:  HP LaserJet P3015
Location:  dining room
Printer State:  stopped, accepting jobs.
"Unable to locate printer 'steamy' - Unknown host"
Device URI:  socket://steamy
-

The printer *is* switched off, at the moment, and has been off for
sufficient time for my network to abandon it.  It's address is doled
out by the DHCP server, which automatically reprograms my DNS server as
addresses change.  Hence the warning notice.

"steamy" is it's hostname, and what I called the print queue for it. 
It got so named because the first time I tried printing with it,
someone had left damp paper in the hopper.  The first test prints came
amount with an amusingly large amount of white smoke, that turned out
to be water vapour.  It looked like the magic puff of smoke you'd see a
conjurer use.

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Re: Covert a Shockwave Flash File (.swf) to something useful

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 12 August 2017, Ted Roche sent:
> I found the following suggestion [1] for converting SWF to MP4 using
> gnash and ffmpeg, but gnash doesn't appear to be available in the
> Fedora repos any more.

If ffmpeg can play/input the SWF by itself, then you should be able to
use it to transcode the SWF by itself.

mplayer can play SWF files, and it's partner mencoder can be used to
transcode media files.

VLC can (or did when I tried yonks ago) also play and transcode.

There are various Firefox plugins that can download and convert flash
videos, if your files are on a webserver it ought to be able to do it
for you.  Perhaps even if they're locally loaded files.  Though you'll
probably need to write a webpage to go around them.

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Re: Covert a Shockwave Flash File (.swf) to something useful

[Jack Craig]

i've had luck w/ffmpeg, eg, ...

ffmpeg -i file.swf video.mp4

hth...


On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Ted Roche  wrote:

> Ultimately, my goal is to post some SWF files to Youtube.
>
> An acquaintance created a series of screen-capture and audio-narration
> video tutorials that produced SWF files, and would now like to post
> them to YouTube, which doesn't appear to accept the SWF format.
>
> I found the following suggestion [1] for converting SWF to MP4 using
> gnash and ffmpeg, but gnash doesn't appear to be available in the
> Fedora repos any more. Attempting to download the source from gnu.org
> and build has lead to a couple of cycles of make errors, search for
> the missing packages, reinstall, repeat and I'm hoping there might be
> a better solution.
>
> Has anyone done a similar conversion or could offer suggestions? TIA!
>
> [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20194270/convert-
> compressed-swf-to-mp4
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Covert a Shockwave Flash File (.swf) to something useful

[Ted Roche]

Ultimately, my goal is to post some SWF files to Youtube.

An acquaintance created a series of screen-capture and audio-narration
video tutorials that produced SWF files, and would now like to post
them to YouTube, which doesn't appear to accept the SWF format.

I found the following suggestion [1] for converting SWF to MP4 using
gnash and ffmpeg, but gnash doesn't appear to be available in the
Fedora repos any more. Attempting to download the source from gnu.org
and build has lead to a couple of cycles of make errors, search for
the missing packages, reinstall, repeat and I'm hoping there might be
a better solution.

Has anyone done a similar conversion or could offer suggestions? TIA!

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20194270/convert-compressed-swf-to-mp4

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Re: Is yumex working?

[John Pilkington]

On 12/08/17 10:27, François Patte wrote:

Bonjour,

I am facing a problem with yumex: I can't update a system nor install
many packages at the same time: an error window opens giving a lot of
error messages, mostly about python...

I can only use yumex to install or update one or two packages

Does anyone facing the same problem?

Thank you.


You don't say which OS.  In f25 I see no problem with yumex-dnf, but 
with yumex in SL7 there is usually a wait of some minutes after download 
before things continue;  during this, one core is at 100%.  atop says 
it's running genpkgmetadata.  Then it completes as normal.  It's been 
like this for some time.


11:12:19 : YUM: --> Finished Dependency Resolution

11:13:19 : YUM: No Presto metadata available for epel

11:13:19 : Downloaded : GraphicsMagick-1.3.26-3.el7.x86_64.rpm ( 1.4 M )
11:16:48 : YUM: Running Transaction Check

11:16:58 : YUM: --> Populating transaction set with selected packages. 
Please wait.


11:16:58 : YUM: ---> Package GraphicsMagick.x86_64 0:1.3.26-3.el7 will 
be an update


11:17:00 : GraphicsMagick-1.3.26-3.el7.x86_64 is updated
11:17:19 : Transaction completed successfully

John P


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Re: Is yumex working?

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/12/2017 05:27 PM, François Patte wrote:
> I am facing a problem with yumex: I can't update a system nor install
> many packages at the same time: an error window opens giving a lot of
> error messages, mostly about python...
>
> I can only use yumex to install or update one or two packages
>
> Does anyone facing the same problem?


I don't use yumex.  So, assuming you're taking about yumex-dnf I installed it 
and
attempted to use it in a VM which had not been updated in a while so I knew it 
would
have pending updates.

So.  If you mean errors like this...

18:14:22: EXCEPTION : g-io-error-quark:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.dnf.exceptions.MarkingError: Traceback 
(most
recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib64/python3.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py", line 707, in 
_message_cb
retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnfdaemon/server/__init__.py", line 
83, in
newFunc
rc = func(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/share/dnfdaemon/dnfdaemon-system", line 485, in AddTransaction
value = self.add_transaction(pkg_id, action)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnfdaemon/server/__init__.py", line 
495, in
add_transaction
rc = self.base.package_upgrade(po)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 1729, in 
package_upgrade
raise dnf.exceptions.MarkingError(_('No match for argument: %s') % 
pkg.location,
pkg.name)
dnf.exceptions.MarkingError: No match for argument:
l/libsss_certmap-1.15.3-1.fc26.x86_64.rpm
 (36)

Yes

FWIW, I was able to update 3 dnf packages thinking that may fix itbut it 
didn't


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Is yumex working?

[François Patte]

Bonjour,

I am facing a problem with yumex: I can't update a system nor install
many packages at the same time: an error window opens giving a lot of
error messages, mostly about python...

I can only use yumex to install or update one or two packages

Does anyone facing the same problem?

Thank you.

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François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte



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Re: F25 -> F26 printer problems

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2017-08-12 at 08:36 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 11.08.2017, Wells, Roger K. wrote: 
> 
> > However within the "Printers" application available from Gnome "All
> > Settings"  the 4630 "Printer Details" shows the printer address as
> > "localhost" (even though Cups shows the correct address) and any attempt to
> > print from an application, e.g. LibreOffite Writer fails.  The job is listed
> > as "Stopped" and has to eventually be removed from the queue.
> 
> dnf downgrade qpdf
> 
> It's most probably related to a newly introduced flaw in the pdftopdf
> filter.

It has already been fixed in qpdf-libs-6.0.0-7

poc
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Re: F25 -> F26 printer problems

[Heinz Diehl]

On 11.08.2017, Wells, Roger K. wrote: 

> However within the "Printers" application available from Gnome "All
> Settings"  the 4630 "Printer Details" shows the printer address as
> "localhost" (even though Cups shows the correct address) and any attempt to
> print from an application, e.g. LibreOffite Writer fails.  The job is listed
> as "Stopped" and has to eventually be removed from the queue.

dnf downgrade qpdf

It's most probably related to a newly introduced flaw in the pdftopdf
filter.
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