Re: Debian vs Fedora

[luca paganotti]

Hi, I switched from fedora to debian few years ago after about ten years of
fedora distros usage and now happy with my linux boxes. The main reason was
the pain I had at each new fedora release, the upgrade process to new
versions often failed and I had to "rebuild" the offended machine(s). This
is not acceptable (at least for me), no such pains with debian even if I'm
not on the bleeding edge I have now a stable environment. I don't know if
things are getting better with the last fedora releases, it will be nice to
know. Fedora has been my favourite distro for at least a decade, I grow up
my linux skills with it, but I had to leave it. Anyway I think that is up
to you, it's your choice, take your time to explore other distros and think
well of what you search in a linux distro, what your use cases will be,
what you want to do with it. Have an open mind on making your choice :-)


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On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:09 PM vipul kumar via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should I
> choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system?
>
> Cheers,
> finn
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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/5/18 9:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/05/2018 09:44 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

pi = 4 arctan (1)
if you need


Excellent!  That was exactly what I was going to suggest.  Decades ago, 
the late Dan Alderson (The man who wrote JPL's main space probe 
navigation package.) told me that you should always use that because it 
gave you a value as precise as the computer could store.  Even now, I'd 
bet, most programmers don't understand that.


Most languages have a math library containing a pi constant that is as 
precise as the computer can store.  How is using a trig function going 
to be more accurate?

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Re: Why this activity on mounted but unused fs?

[Eyal Lebedinsky]

On 4/11/18 4:19 pm, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:

[trimmed]


However it seems that there is no way to see how far the lazy init progressed 
or how much
data needs to be written.


To close this thread, the lazy init is now finished and the disk activity 
ceased.

Still, it would have taken many days to complete, so after more searching I 
found
that adding a mount option 'init_itable=0' (default is 10)will remove the 
intentional
slowing. It did, and once remounted, the 'ext4lazyinit' put the pedal to the 
metal
and the tps went from about 1.33 to around 140.

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Re: Sticks with not lights

[Paul Allen Newell]

ToddAndMargo:

I am struggling with this one as well. To the best of my googling, it 
seems that the "sync" command needs to be done before clicking "safely 
remove" (or whatever). Documentation also says that "sudo umount 
" should do it, but I have experienced at least one instance 
where it didn't seem like it worked ... not certain what happened.


I am still testing but I "think" I am seeing that doing a "safely 
remove" and then a sync before physically removing gives best result (as 
in no pop-up warning). Do not understand why this is.


Not happy that the led light is vanishing on newer sticks ...

The "sync" command does not appear to be all that nice to the stick and 
there doesn't appear to be any way to isolate the "sync" to the stick.


I would hope that someone on this user-list who is more knowledgeable 
will correct me with a better way.


Best,
Paul

On 11/05/2018 09:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator.
In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch
the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them

But with no led indicator, how can I test from my script to
make sure it is done writing?


Many thanks,
-T


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Re: Sticks with not lights

[Joerg Lechner via users]

 Hi,
when the writing on my sticks is done I try to unmount, F28 says then there is 
still activity don't remove, when the activity is done now the system says, You 
can remove. But there might be someone with more knowledge then I, who can give 
You some code to check the activity task.

 

 Kind regards




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An: Community support for Fedora users 
Cc: ToddAndMargo 
Verschickt: Di, 6. Nov. 2018 6:04
Betreff: Sticks with not lights

Hi All,

I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator.
In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch
the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them

But with no led indicator, how can I test from my script to
make sure it is done writing?


Many thanks,
-T

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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/05/2018 09:44 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

pi = 4 arctan (1)
if you need


Excellent!  That was exactly what I was going to suggest.  Decades ago, 
the late Dan Alderson (The man who wrote JPL's main space probe 
navigation package.) told me that you should always use that because it 
gave you a value as precise as the computer could store.  Even now, I'd 
bet, most programmers don't understand that.

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Re: Debian vs Fedora

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/5/18 10:59 AM, a...@clueserver.org wrote:

Fedora ships "bleeding edge" versions


Mostly, but not always.  28 did not support the latest
Libre Office or Krusader.  But they will almost always
have the next version back.

Xfce either, but that may have been a good thing.  Fedora
does use testing and common sense before posting the
latest.   I do adore Fedora!

Use Fedora for the vast quantity of software that it
has available.



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Sticks with not lights

[ToddAndMargo via users]

Hi All,

I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator.
In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch
the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them

But with no led indicator, how can I test from my script to
make sure it is done writing?


Many thanks,
-T

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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Patrick Dupre]

>
> On 11/05/2018 07:49 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > I am sorry for the confusion.
> > I use gnuplot
> 
> I don't, so I presume that pi is predefined.
Yes,
pi = 4 arctan (1)
if you need

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Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/5/18 8:18 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 22:53:46 -0800 Samuel Sieb  wrote:

   Try running "sudo setenforce off" and then try "systemctl hibernate".
See if that works.


I suspect that you meant

sudo sentenforce 0


Oops, I should have checked the man page before posting.


But even then:

$ systemctl hibernate
Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't hibernate


Then I guess it's not an selinux issue.  Hopefully someone responds to 
the bug.

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Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 22:53:46 -0800 Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 11/4/18 7:09 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 18:46:28 -0800 Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> >> On 11/4/18 5:21 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> >>> Nov 04 19:12:41 machine.name kernel: audit: type=1400 
> >>> audit(1541380361.892:226): avc:  denied  { read } for  pid=805 
> >>> comm="systemd-logind" name="nvme0n1p1" dev="devtmpfs" ino=17833 
> >>> scontext=system_u:system_r:systemd_logind_t:s0 
> >>> tcontext=system_u:object_r:nvme_device_t:s0 tclass=blk_file permissive=0
> 
> >> There are a couple of these and it appears that it is the disk device
> >> that it is trying to open.  Run "ls -li /dev/nvme0n1*" to verify that.
> 
> > 17666 brw-rw. 1 root disk 259, 0 Nov  4 19:43 /dev/nvme0n1
> > 17667 brw-rw. 1 root disk 259, 1 Nov  4 19:43 /dev/nvme0n1p1
> > 17668 brw-rw. 1 root disk 259, 2 Nov  4 19:43 /dev/nvme0n1p2
> > 17669 brw-rw. 1 root disk 259, 3 Nov  4 19:44 /dev/nvme0n1p3
> > 17670 brw-rw. 1 root disk 259, 4 Nov  4 19:43 /dev/nvme0n1p4
> > 17671 brw-rw. 1 root disk 259, 5 Nov  4 19:43 /dev/nvme0n1p5
> > 17672 brw-rw. 1 root disk 259, 6 Nov  4 19:43 /dev/nvme0n1p6
> 
> The numbers don't match, but I just realized why.  The inode numbers on 
> a tmpfs are temporary.  I would need to see the log line and the inode 
> numbers from the same boot.  I'm now wondering if it's an selinux issue. 
>   Try running "sudo setenforce off" and then try "systemctl hibernate". 
> See if that works.

I suspect that you meant

sudo sentenforce 0

But even then:

$ systemctl hibernate 
Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't hibernate

Thanks again!
Ranjan


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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/05/2018 07:49 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

I am sorry for the confusion.
I use gnuplot


I don't, so I presume that pi is predefined.
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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Patrick Dupre]

> On 11/05/2018 06:31 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/05/2018 05:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> >>> sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi)
> >>>
> >>> z (x, y) = x + I * y
> >>> w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized
> >>> plot real (w (z (x, 1))
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Good luck.
> >>
> >> How do you initialize pi?
> >> ___
> > I do not have.
> > 
> > I={0,1}
> > sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi)
> > z (x, y) = x + I * y
> > w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized
> > plot real (w (z (x, 1)))
> > 
> > 
> > works like a charm.
> >
> OK, let's try again.  Does the language you're using have pi as a built 
> in constant, or do you have to define a variable and give it a value? 
> In the latter case, what value do you give it?  It's more than idle 
> curiosity, as some ways to give it a value are more precise than others.

I am sorry for the confusion.
I use gnuplot
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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/05/2018 06:31 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:


On 11/05/2018 05:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi)

z (x, y) = x + I * y
w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized
plot real (w (z (x, 1))


Good luck.


How do you initialize pi?
___

I do not have.

I={0,1}
sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi)
z (x, y) = x + I * y
w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized
plot real (w (z (x, 1)))


works like a charm.

OK, let's try again.  Does the language you're using have pi as a built 
in constant, or do you have to define a variable and give it a value? 
In the latter case, what value do you give it?  It's more than idle 
curiosity, as some ways to give it a value are more precise than others.

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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Patrick Dupre]

>
> On 11/05/2018 05:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi)
> > 
> > z (x, y) = x + I * y
> > w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized
> > plot real (w (z (x, 1))
> > 
> > 
> > Good luck.
> 
> How do you initialize pi?
> ___
I do not have.

I={0,1}
sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi)
z (x, y) = x + I * y
w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized
plot real (w (z (x, 1)))


works like a charm.
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Re: interrupted upgrade F28 -> F29 hosed dnf

[Greg Woods]

Thank you! That worked. I thought I had a vague memory of having seen
something like this go by on the list, but couldn't call it back up.

--Greg


On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 5:37 PM Dario Lesca  wrote:

> Il giorno lun, 05/11/2018 alle 17.13 -0700, Greg Woods ha scritto:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 58, in 
> main.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 179, in
> user_main
> errcode = main(args)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 64, in main
> return _main(base, args, cli_class, option_parser_class)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 99, in
> _main
> return cli_run(cli, base)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 115, in
> cli_run
> cli.run()
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 1055, in run
> return self.command.run()
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/commands/__init__.py",
> line 283, in run
> found = self.base.check_updates(self.opts.packages, print_=True)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 301, in
> check_updates
> columns = _list_cmd_calc_columns(self.output, ypl)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 109, in
> _list_cmd_calc_columns
> _add_pkg_simple_list_lens(data, opkg, indent=" " * 4)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 93, in
> _add_pkg_simple_list_lens
> rid = len(pkg._from_repo)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/package.py", line 84, in
> _from_repo
> pkgrepo = self.base.history.repo(self)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/db/history.py", line 362, in
> repo
> return self.swdb.getRPMRepo(str(pkg))
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/db/history.py", line 291, in
> swdb
> self._swdb = libdnf.transaction.Swdb(self.dbpath)
>   File "/usr/lib64/python3.7/site-packages/libdnf/transaction.py", line
> 729, in __init__
> this = _transaction.new_Swdb(*args)
> RuntimeError: Exec failed: no such table: main.trans_cmdline
>
>
> Try this:
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/3OXWIJSH3LV4FVVHPCLIF67DC6JUZR5S/
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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/5/18 11:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 11/5/18 12:29 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
What is the message from Firefox for that one?  It doesn't redirect to 
https, so there shouldn't be any ssl messages.


it went very quickly to https.

just now, i opened a new FF window, typed in the http://ietf.org, and 
this time it worked.


oh course i won't put it past my ietf colleagues to have put in a few 
changes on their end based on my experience.


I typed it in and it didn't redirect.  Do you have the https everywhere 
extension or something like it?

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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/05/2018 05:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi)

z (x, y) = x + I * y
w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized
plot real (w (z (x, 1))


Good luck.


How do you initialize pi?
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Re: interrupted upgrade F28 -> F29 hosed dnf

[Dario Lesca]

Il giorno lun, 05/11/2018 alle 17.13 -0700, Greg Woods ha scritto:
> Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 58, in
> main.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)  File
> "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 179, in
> user_mainerrcode = main(args)  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-
> packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 64, in mainreturn _main(base,
> args, cli_class, option_parser_class)  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-
> packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 99, in _mainreturn cli_run(cli,
> base)  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line
> 115, in cli_runcli.run()  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-
> packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 1055, in runreturn
> self.command.run()  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-
> packages/dnf/cli/commands/__init__.py", line 283, in runfound =
> self.base.check_updates(self.opts.packages, print_=True)  File
> "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 301, in
> check_updatescolumns = _list_cmd_calc_columns(self.output, ypl) 
> File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 109, in
> _list_cmd_calc_columns_add_pkg_simple_list_lens(data, opkg,
> indent=" " * 4)  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-
> packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 93, in _add_pkg_simple_list_lens   
> rid = len(pkg._from_repo)  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-
> packages/dnf/package.py", line 84, in _from_repopkgrepo =
> self.base.history.repo(self)  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-
> packages/dnf/db/history.py", line 362, in reporeturn
> self.swdb.getRPMRepo(str(pkg))  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-
> packages/dnf/db/history.py", line 291, in swdbself._swdb =
> libdnf.transaction.Swdb(self.dbpath)  File
> "/usr/lib64/python3.7/site-packages/libdnf/transaction.py", line 729,
> in __init__this = _transaction.new_Swdb(*args)RuntimeError: Exec
> failed: no such table: main.trans_cmdline

Try this:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/3OXWIJSH3LV4FVVHPCLIF67DC6JUZR5S/

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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello Ronaldo

Part of my code

I={0,1}
sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi)

z (x, y) = x + I * y
w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized
plot real (w (z (x, 1))


Good luck.

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> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 at 9:12 PM
> From: "Ronaldo Mercado" 
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Subject: Testing gnuplot with libcerf
>
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to test an update to gnuplot from bugzilla #1476616.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476616
> 
> I am using fedora 28 and I managed to install the package okay from copr
> I don't know my way around gnuplot. I tried the simple plot from
> http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo/simple.html
> 
> Do you have an example plot that uses the libcerf functions?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Ronaldo
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Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

[Dario Lesca]

Il giorno mar, 06/11/2018 alle 00.40 +0100, Andrej Podzimek via users
ha scritto:
> Bash has a built-in array called PIPESTATUS 

Good also "set -o pipefail" , but for me this array is better because
it gives me more control over which command fails

Many Tanks to all
  
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Re: issues with F27

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/6/18 8:10 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 11/5/18 4:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/6/18 7:53 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
>>> 1) System crashes with "System not configured for semaphores". This error 
>>> results in the
>>> system halting.  It has occurred several times over the last few months.
>> The cause of your crashes probably isn't related to "System not configured 
>> for
>> semaphores".  Back in the F27 kernel days that would appear on normal 
>> shutdowns most, if
>> not all, of the time on my systems.
>>
>> F27 is about to reach EOL.  You may want to consider upgrading to F29 (the 
>> latest) or F28
>> at the least.
> This can be caused by selinux. Try booting with selinux disabled (add
> "selinux=0" to the boot command line). If that works, then make sure you
> update selinux-policy* and relabel your filesystems ("sudo /bin/touch
> /.autorelabel" and reboot).

FWIW, that was not the case with my systems.  During the time they were F27 I 
managed to
munge them where a relabel was needed.  Still got the messages on shutdown.

Oh, and I find "fixfiles onboot" easier to remember than touching 
/.autorelabel.  :-)

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interrupted upgrade F28 -> F29 hosed dnf

[Greg Woods]

I was upgrading a system from F28 ro F29 and the power failed during the
upgrade. I don't know what point the upgrade was at when it failed. The
basic problem is that most (but not all)  dnf commands just die with a
traceback:

[root@elric greg]# dnf clean all
Failed to set locale, defaulting to C
34 files removed
[root@elric greg]# dnf check-update
Failed to set locale, defaulting to C
Last metadata expiration check: 0:06:54 ago on Mon Nov  5 17:01:33 2018.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 58, in 
main.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 179, in
user_main
errcode = main(args)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 64, in main
return _main(base, args, cli_class, option_parser_class)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 99, in _main
return cli_run(cli, base)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 115, in
cli_run
cli.run()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 1055, in run
return self.command.run()
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/commands/__init__.py",
line 283, in run
found = self.base.check_updates(self.opts.packages, print_=True)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 301, in
check_updates
columns = _list_cmd_calc_columns(self.output, ypl)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 109, in
_list_cmd_calc_columns
_add_pkg_simple_list_lens(data, opkg, indent=" " * 4)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/cli.py", line 93, in
_add_pkg_simple_list_lens
rid = len(pkg._from_repo)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/package.py", line 84, in
_from_repo
pkgrepo = self.base.history.repo(self)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/db/history.py", line 362, in
repo
return self.swdb.getRPMRepo(str(pkg))
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/db/history.py", line 291, in
swdb
self._swdb = libdnf.transaction.Swdb(self.dbpath)
  File "/usr/lib64/python3.7/site-packages/libdnf/transaction.py", line
729, in __init__
this = _transaction.new_Swdb(*args)
RuntimeError: Exec failed: no such table: main.trans_cmdline
[root@elric greg]#

When I first brought it back up, there were a lot of dups (f28 and f29
packages both installed). I painstakingly (using rpm) removed all the dups,
so that now "dnf check" runs with no output (other than the locale
complaint). But commands like "update", "check-update", "install" will just
get the traceback. The system seems to be running OK (although still with
an F28 kernel), but of course it is now impossible to update it.

Is there a way to fix this? I'm thinking I could have had a working system
by now by just installing F29 from scratch, but I'm also trying to learn
here. Is a full install my only option at this point?

Thanks,
--Greg
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Re: Debian vs Fedora

[alan]

> On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 10:59 -0800, a...@clueserver.org wrote:

>> Fedora also ships or gives you access to a number of packages that are
>> not
>> "ideologically pure". (NVIDIA drivers and the like.) It depends on
>> whether
>> you need those packages.
>
> AFAIK this is not the case. Fedora's official repos only contain free
> software. Other repos, notable RPMfusion, contain other things
> including proprietary drivers, but no doubt the same is true of Debian.

The new version of the Gnome software app will point you to a subset of
those repositories on Fedora. Debian has a history of not wanting to ship
anything non-free. (More that almost any other distro I have seen.) Every
distro seems to have alternate repos with non-free or morally ambiguous
software.

perl -pe 's/^\s+//g' *.py
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Re: issues with F27

[Rick Stevens]

On 11/5/18 4:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/6/18 7:53 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
>> 1) System crashes with "System not configured for semaphores". This error 
>> results in the
>> system halting.  It has occurred several times over the last few months.
> 
> The cause of your crashes probably isn't related to "System not configured for
> semaphores".  Back in the F27 kernel days that would appear on normal 
> shutdowns most, if
> not all, of the time on my systems.
> 
> F27 is about to reach EOL.  You may want to consider upgrading to F29 (the 
> latest) or F28
> at the least.

This can be caused by selinux. Try booting with selinux disabled (add
"selinux=0" to the boot command line). If that works, then make sure you
update selinux-policy* and relabel your filesystems ("sudo /bin/touch
/.autorelabel" and reboot).
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Re: issues with F27

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/6/18 7:53 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> 1) System crashes with "System not configured for semaphores". This error 
> results in the
> system halting.  It has occurred several times over the last few months.

The cause of your crashes probably isn't related to "System not configured for
semaphores".  Back in the F27 kernel days that would appear on normal shutdowns 
most, if
not all, of the time on my systems.

F27 is about to reach EOL.  You may want to consider upgrading to F29 (the 
latest) or F28
at the least.

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issues with F27

[Paolo Galtieri]

I have F27 running on a couple of systems.  On one of them I have 
encountered the following 2 issues.


1) System crashes with "System not configured for semaphores". This 
error results in the system halting.  It has occurred several times over 
the last few months.


2) I have a Linksys AE1200 wireless adapter.  Every time I reboot my 
system this device does not come up.  I have to unplug it and plug it 
back in before the system sees it and configures it.


Both issues have occurred on different kernels over the last few 
months.  I also happen to have a Linksys AE1000 plugged into the same 
system and it comes up every time.


I updated to the AE1000 because I started experiencing problems where my 
internet connection would go away even though I was still connected to 
the cable modem via wireless.  I thought I was having problems with the 
wireless adapter so I bought a new one.  This has not solved the problem 
completely, but it has reduced the problem considerably.


Any ideas on what might be causing these issues?

Any help is appreciated.

Paolo

cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor    : 0
vendor_id    : GenuineIntel
cpu family    : 6
model        : 15
model name    : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
stepping    : 11
microcode    : 0xba
cpu MHz        : 1604.067
cache size    : 4096 KB
physical id    : 0
siblings    : 4
core id        : 0
cpu cores    : 4
apicid        : 0
initial apicid    : 0
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 10
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall 
nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl cpuid aperfmperf 
pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm pti 
tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority dtherm

bugs        : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf
bogomips    : 4788.02
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 64
address sizes    : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor    : 1
vendor_id    : GenuineIntel
cpu family    : 6
model        : 15
model name    : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
stepping    : 11
microcode    : 0xba
cpu MHz        : 1637.657
cache size    : 4096 KB
physical id    : 0
siblings    : 4
core id        : 1
cpu cores    : 4
apicid        : 1
initial apicid    : 1
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 10
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall 
nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl cpuid aperfmperf 
pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm pti 
tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority dtherm

bugs        : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf
bogomips    : 4788.02
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 64
address sizes    : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor    : 2
vendor_id    : GenuineIntel
cpu family    : 6
model        : 15
model name    : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
stepping    : 11
microcode    : 0xba
cpu MHz        : 1673.092
cache size    : 4096 KB
physical id    : 0
siblings    : 4
core id        : 2
cpu cores    : 4
apicid        : 2
initial apicid    : 2
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 10
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall 
nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl cpuid aperfmperf 
pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm pti 
tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority dtherm

bugs        : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf
bogomips    : 4788.02
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 64
address sizes    : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor    : 3
vendor_id    : GenuineIntel
cpu family    : 6
model        : 15
model name    : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
stepping    : 11
microcode    : 0xba
cpu MHz        : 1629.113
cache size    : 4096 KB
physical id    : 0
siblings    : 4
core id        : 3
cpu cores    : 4
apicid        : 3
initial apicid    : 3
fpu        : yes
fpu_exception    : yes
cpuid level    : 10
wp        : yes
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall 
nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl cpuid aperfmperf 
pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm pti 
tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority dtherm

bugs        : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 spec_store_bypass l1tf
bogomips    : 4788.02
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment    : 64
address sizes    : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:


lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82X38/X48 Express DRAM 

Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

[Andrej Podzimek via users]

When I concatenate 2 or more shell command with pipe (|), I get only the status 
of last one.

For example: "*some-cmd | logger -t "some-cmd messages:"; echo $?*"

If "*some-cmd*" fail with status !=0 I get always status of last one, in this 
case 0

In my case if the first command fail, I must send a warning message

A more simple example is: "false | true"

I want get status 1, of first command (false), not 0 (true)

I have also try "*sh -e -c 'false || exit 2|true'; echo $?*" but I get always 0

How to I get first status and break the chains of pipes ?


Bash has a built-in array called PIPESTATUS (documented in man bash) containing 
exit statuses from *all* stages of the previous pipeline. With PIPESTATUS you 
can check how each individual pipeline stage terminated. Here's a toy example:

# Random good-for-nothing pipeline with exit codes 55, 44, 33, 22, 11 and 0:
(exit 55;) | (exit 44;) | (exit 33;) | (exit 22;) | (exit 11) | :

# Inspecting and copying PIPESTATUS ... caution, this has a caveat:
# You can expand PIPESTATUS only once per pipeline. Copy it if need be.
pipestatus=("${PIPESTATUS[@]}")

# Now you can check how each pipeline stage terminated!
for stage in "${!pipestatus[@]}"; do
  echo "Stage ${stage} exited with status ${pipestatus[stage]}."
done

Output from the cycle above:
Stage 0 exited with status 55.
Stage 1 exited with status 44.
Stage 2 exited with status 33.
Stage 3 exited with status 22.
Stage 4 exited with status 11.
Stage 5 exited with status 0.

That's it. Enjoy!
Andrej
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Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

[John Mellor]

On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 15:00 +0100, Dario Lesca wrote:
> When I concatenate 2 or more shell command with pipe (|), I get only
> the status of last one.
> 
> For example: "some-cmd | logger -t "some-cmd messages:"; echo $?"
> 
> If "some-cmd" fail with status !=0 I get always status of last one,
> in this case 0
> 
> In my case if the first command fail, I must send a warning message
> 
> A more simple example is: "false | true"
> 
> I want get status 1, of first command (false), not 0 (true)
> 
> I have also try "sh -e -c 'false || exit 2|true'; echo $?" but I get
> always 0
> 
> How to I get first status and break the chains of pipes ?

Assuming that your shell is bash:
set -o pipefail
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Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[George N. White III]

On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 17:03, Ronaldo Mercado  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to test an update to gnuplot from bugzilla #1476616.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476616
>
> I am using fedora 28 and I managed to install the package okay from copr
> I don't know my way around gnuplot. I tried the simple plot from
> http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo/simple.html


> Do you have an example plot that uses the libcerf functions?
>
>
If you have gnuplot installed with libcerf enabled, you should have
"cerf.dem", see:
http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo/cerf.html

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Re: Debian vs Fedora

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 10:59 -0800, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should I
> > choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system?
> 
> Debian tends to distribute older versions of packages, where Fedora ships
> "bleeding edge" versions. It depends what your needs are. Do you need a
> known quantity or do you want the newest stuff that is out now.
> 
> Fedora also ships or gives you access to a number of packages that are not
> "ideologically pure". (NVIDIA drivers and the like.) It depends on whether
> you need those packages.

AFAIK this is not the case. Fedora's official repos only contain free
software. Other repos, notable RPMfusion, contain other things
including proprietary drivers, but no doubt the same is true of Debian.

poc
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Testing gnuplot with libcerf

[Ronaldo Mercado]

Hi,

I would like to test an update to gnuplot from bugzilla #1476616.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476616

I am using fedora 28 and I managed to install the package okay from copr
I don't know my way around gnuplot. I tried the simple plot from
http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo/simple.html

Do you have an example plot that uses the libcerf functions?

Thanks.

Ronaldo
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Re: Debian vs Fedora

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/05/2018 12:13 PM, stan wrote:

If you're happy, I wouldn't switch.  Linux is linux, though every
distribution has a little different character because of the users it
attracts.  Gentoo is different than Arch is different than Ubuntu is
different than Suse is different than Debian ... is different than
Fedora.


And, for that matter, each distro attracts a different type of user 
because of that different character.  Fedora attracts users who like 
being on the bleeding edge, others pick Ubuntu because It Just Works and 
so on.  And, that's the same reason people use different DEs: each one 
does things different, and appeals to a different type of user.  That's 
one of the great beauties of Linux: there's no One True Way.

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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 11/5/18 12:29 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 11/5/18 9:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

the google test works fine.


Did it redirect to https successfully?


yes it did.




http:/ietf.org

does not


What is the message from Firefox for that one?  It doesn't redirect to 
https, so there shouldn't be any ssl messages.


it went very quickly to https.

just now, i opened a new FF window, typed in the http://ietf.org, and 
this time it worked.


oh course i won't put it past my ietf colleagues to have put in a few 
changes on their end based on my experience.

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Re: Debian vs Fedora

[stan]

On Mon, 05 Nov 2018 18:18:10 +
vipul kumar via users  wrote:
 
> I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should
> I choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system?

If you're happy, I wouldn't switch.  Linux is linux, though every
distribution has a little different character because of the users it
attracts.  Gentoo is different than Arch is different than Ubuntu is
different than Suse is different than Debian ... is different than
Fedora.

As Alan said, it depends on you.  I tried many distros, and I was
mostly happy with them, but Fedora just somehow suits me.  Maybe it is
just familiarity because it is nothing like it was when I started using
it.  Interface lock in, want to avoid the hassle of figuring out the
new package manager, or where configuration is, or ...

Not that I'm trying to discourage you.  Go to the download page and
grab a few live images, and give them a whirl.  Better than opinions.
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Claws Mail 3.17.1 with experimental TLS SNI support

[Michael Schwendt]

For Fedora 29 and Rawhide:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/mschwendt/claws-mail-testing/

If upgrading to these packages, be sure to upgrade also "libetpan"
and not only the "claws-mail*" packages.

As a side-note, the Dillo based HTML rendering plugin package
"claws-mail-plugins-dillo" is back with this release.
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Re: Debian vs Fedora

[alan]

> Greetings,
>
> I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should I
> choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system?

Debian tends to distribute older versions of packages, where Fedora ships
"bleeding edge" versions. It depends what your needs are. Do you need a
known quantity or do you want the newest stuff that is out now.

Fedora also ships or gives you access to a number of packages that are not
"ideologically pure". (NVIDIA drivers and the like.) It depends on whether
you need those packages.

perl -pe 's/^\s+//g' *.py
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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[vipul kumar via users]

Use Bitmask VPN ( https://bitmask.net/en/install ). And connect it through 
their firewall.


Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, November 5, 2018 7:24 PM, Robert Moskowitz  
wrote:

> greetings
>
> i am in a hospital bed pecking left handed from being hit by a car,
> instead of in bankok for ietf meeting.
>
> this hospital's firewall/proxy is giving firefox problems connecting to
> ietf.org
>
> Secure Connection Failed
>
> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
>
>     The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>     Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
>
> I am hoping that someone can help me disable FF checking.  IT at the
> hospital is hard to reach...
>
> thanks
>
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Debian vs Fedora

[vipul kumar via users]

Greetings,

I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should I choose 
Fedora over Debian as a my operating system?

Cheers,
finn
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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/05/2018 10:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 11/5/18 12:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/05/2018 10:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

the google test works fine.

http:/ietf.org

does not


shouldn't that be http://ietf.org with two slashes, not one?


i typed it wrong in the email.  not in the browser url.  :)





Just making sure.
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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/5/18 9:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

the google test works fine.


Did it redirect to https successfully?


http:/ietf.org

does not


What is the message from Firefox for that one?  It doesn't redirect to 
https, so there shouldn't be any ssl messages.

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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 11/5/18 12:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 11/05/2018 10:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

the google test works fine.

http:/ietf.org

does not


shouldn't that be http://ietf.org with two slashes, not one?


i typed it wrong in the email.  not in the browser url.  :)

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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Joe Zeff]

On 11/05/2018 10:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

the google test works fine.

http:/ietf.org

does not


shouldn't that be http://ietf.org with two slashes, not one?
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Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

[Dario Lesca]

Il giorno lun, 05/11/2018 alle 15.15 +0100, francis.montag...@inria.fr
ha scritto:
> Use the PIPESTATUS array:
> false | true; echo ${PIPESTATUS[0]}1
> --francis

Thank Francis!I did not know this kind of useful parameter


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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 11/5/18 11:34 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 11/5/18 5:54 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Secure Connection Failed

The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

 The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the 
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.

 Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.


This is not a check failing.  "The connection to the server was 
reset". Is there a captive portal you have to register on first? Try 
going to "http://google.com; (not https) and see what happens.  If it 
works, it will redirect to https, but if it doesn't, you have a better 
chance to see what's happening.


the google test works fine.

http:/ietf.org

does not
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Re: PC Card Reader USB 2.0 PCMCIA PC Card ATA ATA Flash Storage.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/5/18 8:03 AM, Ger van Dijck wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 00:36:26 +0100, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

What does lsusb say about it?

Also, run "sudo journalctl -fa" in a terminal and plug it in.  See 
what messages are shown.


Lsusb says nothing.
Journalctl has no messager al all.


Then the device isn't working.  Plugging it in will at least trigger 
connection messages and identification of the device.

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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/5/18 5:54 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Secure Connection Failed

The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

     The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the 
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.

     Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.


This is not a check failing.  "The connection to the server was reset". 
Is there a captive portal you have to register on first?  Try going to 
"http://google.com; (not https) and see what happens.  If it works, it 
will redirect to https, but if it doesn't, you have a better chance to 
see what's happening.

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Re: PC Card Reader USB 2.0 PCMCIA PC Card ATA ATA Flash Storage.

[Ger van Dijck]

On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 00:36:26 +0100, Samuel Sieb  wrote:


On 11/3/18 10:12 AM, Ger van Dijck wrote:
I bought a card reader for PCMCIA , Flashdisk ,PC Card ATA , ATA Flash  
Storage because I want to read and write to 10 Mb and 32 Mb Memory  
cards .
 Under Fedora29 the cardreader is not reconized so I think I have to  
install a software driver or needed software .


What does lsusb say about it?

Also, run "sudo journalctl -fa" in a terminal and plug it in.  See what  
messages are shown.


Lsusb says nothing.
Journalctl has no messager al all.

The cardreader is Jcnce YMD :So the question is where can I find a  
softwaredriver for this card that runs under Ferdora 29 ?

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Re: PC Card Reader USB 2.0 PCMCIA PC Card ATA ATA Flash Storage.

[Ger van Dijck]

On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 18:42:06 +0100, Dario Lesca  wrote:


Il giorno sab, 03/11/2018 alle 18.12 +0100, Ger van Dijck ha scritto:

Hi Red Hat World,

I bought a card reader for PCMCIA , Flashdisk ,PC Card ATA , ATA Flash  
Storage because I want to read and write to 10 Mb and 32 Mb Memory  
cards .


Under Fedora29 the cardreader is not reconized so I think I have to  
install a software driver or needed software .


I do not know if this can help, but into Fedora 29 the package coolkey  
is missing, it provide the /usr/lib64/pkcs11/>libcoolkeypk11.so library.


It's substitute by opensc modules:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_Coolkey_with_OpenSC

bye




-- I inslalled coolkey : Helas no succes . The pcmcia cardreader TM  
Jcnce , perhaps there is a product software driver for this particular  
cardreader ?





Dario Lesca

(inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 28 Workstation)




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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Robert Moskowitz]

my samsung galaxy s3 can access ietf.org over hospital wifi.


thus this is a f28/FF issue

On 11/5/18 9:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 11/5/18 10:26 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

never used a free vpn.  Can you give me some instructions?

I don't have any recommendations for a free one.  I use one that I pay to use.

Does the proxy allow you to do google searches?

Or, if you can use another browser, Opera includes a free VPN service.

https://www.opera.com/computer/features/free-vpn


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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/5/18 10:26 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> never used a free vpn.  Can you give me some instructions?

I don't have any recommendations for a free one.  I use one that I pay to use.

Does the proxy allow you to do google searches?

Or, if you can use another browser, Opera includes a free VPN service.

https://www.opera.com/computer/features/free-vpn

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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 11/5/18 9:09 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 11/5/18 9:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

i am in a hospital bed pecking left handed from being hit by a car,
instead of in bankok for ietf meeting.

this hospital's firewall/proxy is giving firefox problems connecting to ietf.org


Secure Connection Failed

The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

     The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
 Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.


I am hoping that someone can help me disable FF checking.  IT at the
hospital is hard to reach...

Have you tried, or could you try, connecting to a free VPN through their 
firewall?


never used a free vpn.  Can you give me some instructions?
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Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

[Francis . Montagnac]

Hi.

On Mon, 05 Nov 2018 15:00:04 +0100 Dario Lesca wrote:

> For example: "some-cmd | logger -t "some-cmd messages:"; echo $?"

> If "some-cmd" fail with status !=0 I get always status of last one, in
> this case 0

> In my case if the first command fail, I must send a warning message

> A more simple example is: "false | true"

> I want get status 1, of first command (false), not 0 (true)

Use the PIPESTATUS array:

false | true; echo ${PIPESTATUS[0]}
1

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Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/5/18 9:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> i am in a hospital bed pecking left handed from being hit by a car,
> instead of in bankok for ietf meeting.
>
> this hospital's firewall/proxy is giving firefox problems connecting to 
> ietf.org
>
>
> Secure Connection Failed
>
> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
>
>     The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
> Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
>
>
> I am hoping that someone can help me disable FF checking.  IT at the
> hospital is hard to reach...

Have you tried, or could you try, connecting to a free VPN through their 
firewall?

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OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

[Dario Lesca]

When I concatenate 2 or more shell command with pipe (|), I get only
the status of last one.

For example: "some-cmd | logger -t "some-cmd messages:"; echo $?"

If "some-cmd" fail with status !=0 I get always status of last one, in
this case 0

In my case if the first command fail, I must send a warning message

A more simple example is: "false | true"

I want get status 1, of first command (false), not 0 (true)

I have also try "sh -e -c 'false || exit 2|true'; echo $?" but I get
always 0

How to I get first status and break the chains of pipes ?

Many thanks
 
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F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

[Robert Moskowitz]

greetings

i am in a hospital bed pecking left handed from being hit by a car, 
instead of in bankok for ietf meeting.


this hospital's firewall/proxy is giving firefox problems connecting to 
ietf.org



Secure Connection Failed

The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

    The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the 
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.

    Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.


I am hoping that someone can help me disable FF checking.  IT at the 
hospital is hard to reach...


thanks


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Re: gnome-control-center coredumps

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 17:14 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 11/4/18 10:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I always assumed that the only reason for g-c-c to exist was so that
> > users of other DEs could access Gnome settings. If it can only run
> > under Gnome that rather defeats the purpose I would think.
> 
> I'm pretty sure its primary purpose is to control the settings in Gnome. 
>   Most of the settings are not relevant if you're using a different DE.

Not so. Several settings are extremely relevant if you're using Gnome
*apps* on a different DE. I use Evolution as my MUA and for some things
access to Gnome settings is important.

poc
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DNF Doesn't Complete

[Richard Ibbotson]

Hi

Yes.  The upgrade from f28 to f29 went well. Many thanks to everyone out
there.  However, after running 'dnf update' I can now see this error
message...

terminate called after throwing an instance of
'libdnf::File::CloseException'
  what():  Cannot close file:
/var/cache/dnf/fedora-modular-ce4dd907f26812da/repodata/8ed681e4b33f294f482602e931965a37c29434f72e76a1d96999d3fb4636001d-modules.yaml.gz

I have tried to run 'dnf clean all'  That doesn't make a difference.
Contents of /var/log/dnf.librepo.log

2018-11-05T07:46:19Z DEBUG lr_download: Downloading started
2018-11-05T07:48:04Z DEBUG lr_download: Error while downloading:
Interrupted by signal
2018-11-05T07:48:04Z DEBUG lr_yum_download_repomd: repomd.xml download
was unsuccessful
2018-11-05T07:48:04Z DEBUG lr_handle_perform: Restoring an old SIGINT
handler
2018-11-05T07:48:09Z DEBUG Librepo version: 1.9.1 with
CURL_GLOBAL_ACK_EINTR support (libcurl/7.61.1 Op
2018-11-05T07:48:09Z DEBUG Current date: 2018-11-05T07:48:09+


Can anyone suggest how to fix this ?


Richard
Sheffield UK

http://www.sheflug.org.uk/indexpage


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Re: Clean Install of F29 problems

[ja]

On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 18:24 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 11/4/18 7:18 AM, stan wrote:
> > On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 14:29:08 +
> > ja  wrote:
> > > warning: %post(tex-fonts-hebrew-0.1-28.fc29.noarch) scriptlet failed,
> > > exit status 255 Error in POSTIN scriptlet in rpm package
> > > tex-fonts-hebrew Installed: tex-fonts-hebrew-0.1-28.fc29.noarch
> > 
> > This is strange, since it is the same package as f28, just rebuilt in
> > the f29 environment.  You could try installing the f28 package from here
> > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1042001
> > to see if it has the same issue.
> 
> It's a known issue.  Fixes should be in testing now.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1555931
> ___
Thanks for the reference

I still cannot get a local repo working
No new downloads appear in /global/local_repos/29
AFAIK the files below are "the same" as for F28 - which worked perfectly

I have tried putting an rpm (nedit) into my local repo and running
createrepo by hand

dnf install nedit   does indeed pick up the rpm from my repo

[root@paxos:/var/cache/dnf]$ dnf repoquery --repoid=local-29-update
Last metadata expiration check: 0:07:06 ago on Mon 05 Nov 2018 10:48:50 GMT.
nedit-0:5.7-5.fc29.x86_64

So it is the putting of the rpms into the repo that is the problem.

Can anyone spot a mistake in my config files?
//--
cat /etc/dnf/dnf.conf  
[main]
gpgcheck=1
installonly_limit=3
clean_requirements_on_remove=True
keepcache=1
metadata_expire=1000
deltarpm=False
//--
cat /etc/dnf/plugins/local.conf
[main]
enabled = true
repodir = /global/local_repos/29

[createrepo]
enabled = true
//--
cat /etc/yum.repos.d/local-29-update.repo  
[local-29-update]
name=Local ja Fedora $releasever $basearch Updates
cost=1
baseurl=file:///global/local_repos/$releasever/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch
metadata_expire=120
//--


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Re: OT: bash parameter substitutions

[Tom H]

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:51 AM Mike Wright  wrote:
>
> There is such a thing as too terse. Can somebody explain what this
> cryptic snippet means? I get the "substitute part; it's the
> "error,exit" part that has me confounded.
>
> +--++---+--+
> |  | parameter  | parameter | parameter|
> |  | Set and Not Null   | Set But Null  | Unset|
> +--++---+--+
> |${parameter:?word}|substitute parameter|error,exit |error,exit|
> |${parameter?word} |substitute parameter|substitute null|error,exit|
> +--++---+--+

In the case of ":?word" and "unset", for example, it'll print "word",
and exit the script if it's running within a script.

th macbook12 ~ $ bash --version
GNU bash, version 4.4.23(1)-release (x86_64-apple-darwin18.0.0)
...

th macbook12 ~ $ echo ${PS1:?fedora}
\u \h \w $

th macbook12 ~ $ echo ${PS5:?fedora}
-bash: PS5: fedora

th macbook12 ~ $ vi mike.sh

th macbook12 ~ $ chmod +x mike.sh

th macbook12 ~ $ cat mike.sh
#!/bin/sh
one=ONE
three=THREE
echo "print one"
echo ${one:?fedora}
echo
echo "print two"
echo ${PS5:?fedora}
echo
echo "print three"
echo ${three}

th macbook12 ~ $ ./mike.sh
print one
ONE

print two
./mike.sh: line 8: PS5: fedora
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Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/5/18 2:53 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> The numbers don't match, but I just realized why.  The inode numbers on a 
> tmpfs are
> temporary.  I would need to see the log line and the inode numbers from the 
> same boot. 
> I'm now wondering if it's an selinux issue.  Try running "sudo setenforce 
> off" and then
> try "systemctl hibernate". See if that works. 

I thought that was going to be the problem as well since the newest systemd 
update was
also causing AVC.

I booted my efi test VM, upgraded it to F29, and installed the latest 
selinux-policy that
fixed that.  

selinux-policy-3.14.2-42.fc29.noarch

But

[egreshko@f28efi ~]$ getenforce
Permissive
[egreshko@f28efi ~]$ systemctl hibernate
 AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.login1.set-wall-message 
Authentication is required to set a wall message
Authenticating as: Ed Greshko (egreshko)
Password:
 AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE 
Failed to hibernate system via logind: Resume not configured, can't hibernate

This worked, selinux enabled or disabled, in F28

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