Re: Compressed arecord out -

2021-02-03 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-02-03 12:45, stan via users wrote:

I'm not completely clear on what you are trying to accomplish,
but if you are trying to record using aplay and get an mp3 file,
you should be able to do this with sox.  A command like
arecord tstxx | sox -t wav - tstxx.mp3
should do the trick.  I haven't tested this, though.
aplay can only play voc, raw, wav or au files, so will not be able to
play mp3.  sox can play, and record, many file types, including mp3.
See the man page.

.
I just want to be able to say "hello test" into the mic and create a 
compresses file, mp3 is convenient. I should be able to test with aplay 
as I can with the original which is by default a .wav/


arecord tstxx | sox -t wav - tstxx.mp3 dpes not peoduce an output file:

[bobg@WS-1 ~]$ arecord tstxx | sox -t wav - tstxx.mp3
Recording WAVE 'tstxx' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
^CAborted by signal Interrupt...
arecord: pcm_read:2153: read error: Interrupted system call
sox FAIL formats: can't open input  `-': WAVE: RIFF header not found

[bobg@WS-1 ~]$ ls -al  tstxx.mp3
ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
ls: cannot access 'tstxx.mp3': No such file or directory


I have been unable to find why it doesn't work?

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Compressed arecord out -

2021-02-03 Thread Bob Goodwin


arecord tstxx will produce a wav file and ffmpeg -i  tstxx.mp3 to a file 
aplay will play.


How can I put them together in one command or if there is a simpler and 
better way, how to get a compressed output file from arecord?


Bob

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Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-28 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-28 12:13, Matthew Miller wrote:

Oh, you'll also need the actual voice installed.

.
Ok, that seems like  a good reason ...


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Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-28 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-28 10:47, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:06:23AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:

[bobg@WS-1 ~]$ cat  .festivalrc
set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg

However /see the following when I try to use festival -/

[bobg@WS-1 ~]$ festival --tts tstgw
SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_cmu_us_clb_cg
closing a file left open: /home/bobg/.festivalrc
closing a file left open: /usr/share/festival/init.scm
festival: fatal error exiting.

What am I missing? *Bob*

Parenthesis. The rc file is literally a Lisp program. So:

(set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg)

should work.


But not yet:

[bobg@WS-1 ~]$ festival --tts tstgw
SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_cmu_us_clb_cg
closing a file left open: /home/bobg/.festivalrc
closing a file left open: /usr/share/festival/init.scm
festival: fatal error exiting.

I rechecked, festival runs wirhout the "rc" file. Perhhaps this is the 
result of trying to tell it to do what the default has set it to? How 
should I enter the "Duration_Stretch" command that Jon LaBadie suggests? 
And where can I find those commans?


I don't remember seeing this in the man page?

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Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-28 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-28 00:07, Samuel Sieb wrote:


Or should I just ms=ake .festivalrc a file?


.festivalrc is a file.  You put those lines in it. 

.
I removed the directory and put the line I was given into a file 
".festivalrc"

-rw-rw-r--. 1 bobg bobg 39 Jan 28 09:37 .festivalrc

[bobg@WS-1 ~]$ cat  .festivalrc
set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg

However /see the following when I try to use festival -/

[bobg@WS-1 ~]$ festival --tts tstgw
SIOD ERROR: unbound variable : voice_cmu_us_clb_cg
closing a file left open: /home/bobg/.festivalrc
closing a file left open: /usr/share/festival/init.scm
festival: fatal error exiting.

What am I missing? *Bob*

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Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-27 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-26 23:09, Jon LaBadie wrote:



On 2021-01-26 15:52, Matthew Miller wrote:
You put configuration in ~/.festivalrc, in the form of commands in 
Lisp,

like for example:

(set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg)

There is also a "Duration_Stretch" parameter that defaults to 1.0.
Twenty percent slower would be 1.2. 

.
I nade a directory "/home/bobg/.festivalrc"

Next I assume I  need a line to put (set! voice_default 
voice_cmu_us_clb_cg)  and "Duration_Stretch" in that festival will find, 
what do I use?


Or should I just ms=ake .festivalrc a file?

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Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-26 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-26 15:52, Matthew Miller wrote:

You put configuration in ~/.festivalrc, in the form of commands in Lisp,
like for example:

(set! voice_default voice_cmu_us_clb_cg)


.
I'll try that.

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Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-26 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-25 15:32, George N. White III wrote:

At the time, festival had better voices than espeak (and
festival currently has a Fedora package).

.
Upon reading that I "dnf installed festival"

It is easy to us and does what I want from the command line, I can feed 
it any text file, it converts it in a few seconds and reads it to me. It 
sounds like a low picnicked female voice but needs a few milliseconds 
more gap between words.


]$ festival -v
festival: Festival Speech Synthesis System: 2.5.0:release December 2017

I would like to reconfigure the voice sound but have not determined how 
to do it? The man page is not much help in this regard, there is an 
option for language but I was not able to change it, it just tells me 
English is installed and i think that is what I want anyway.


Does anyone have experience with 'festival' ?

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Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-25 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-25 09:22, John Pilkington wrote:


A quick search found 'espeak'.  It seems to be installed on my el7 and 
Fedora 32 boxes and there was an article about it in the Fedora 
Magazine August 14, 2017


https://fedoramagazine.org/add-speech-fedora-system/

I haven't tried it, but it might be worth a look.

HTH 

*
Espeak was the first I tried and it had essentially the same voice 
problem, someone mentioned Orca and I went off on another tangent. it 
too is unintelligible on my system. I should try Espeak again but I 
suspect Orca is a variation of the same program, the items offered for 
configuration are similar if not the same it appears ...


more to think about, thanks,  Bob

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Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-25 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-24 23:02, Tim via users wrote:

On Sun, 2021-01-24 at 12:46 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Orca might work if I could adjust the voice to something
intelligible, the default;;t seems to lose syllables from each word.

Another approach might be trying to find out whether a different voice
is better, or if a different text-to-speech engine can be chosen.

I've only looked at screen readers on Linux with a very cursory glance,
just from curiosity.  I wasn't that impressed, either.  My 1980s Amiga
sounded better.

There must be some special interest groups that look into disability
support on Linux.
  

*
Yes, about fifteen years ago when I began worrying about what might lay 
ahead I found a text to speech program that worked but the voice was 
awful and I didn't need it at the time. Actually my problem began 21 
years ago , I was Reading when my right eye's retina went dark.


I will stand by my original complaint about the generic menu names, this 
Fedora Linux and not Apple or Windows, both of which confuse me when I 
encounter them, Now I am forced to learn to use an iPod with it's 
confusing array of icons that are difficult for me to see without my 
'Merlin' CCTV to provide decent size images. I think the typical Fedora 
user is continually learning and enjoys doing so and doesn't need 
extraneous riddles in the application menu names, Like Mail Reader or 
any of the others cited in this thread.


I should have known that Mail Reader dies not do what it says it does, 
unlike other menu items it just does nothing when clicked.


I thank everyone for their responses to my question.  m open to 
suggestions if anyone has a Linux solution to the mail reader problem. I 
found nothing in Orca configuration that made it intelligible, other 
than that it still looks like a good possibility.





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Re: Mail Reader -

2021-01-24 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-24 13:10, Doug H. wrote:

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

I have Mail Reader listed in the menu on this computer.  Can someone
tell me what the procedure is to make it read/speak some text?

It does not respond to the same number pad  keys as Orca. Orca might
work if I could adjust the voice to something intelligible, the
default;;t seems to lose syllables from each word.

As it is I have to use an iPad and ask Siri to read messages. Not a good
system for me.

You list XFCE in your sig. I use Xfce also. My main menu shows "Mail Reader" 
also, but that is just a link to the default mail program that I have selected. For me it 
is Evolution. Yours could be something else.

And note that "mail reader" does not mean that it reads it to you. It is the 
program you use to read mail.

.
Ok, that's an important point, /misunderstood the label.

I really think it is silly ti use those generic names in the menu. I 
should change them all to something meaningful like the application name.

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Mail Reader -

2021-01-24 Thread Bob Goodwin
I have Mail Reader listed in the menu on this computer.  Can someone 
tell me what the procedure is to make it read/speak some text?


It does not respond to the same number pad  keys as Orca. Orca might 
work if I could adjust the voice to something intelligible, the 
default;;t seems to lose syllables from each word.


As it is I have to use an iPad and ask Siri to read messages. Not a good 
system for me.


    Bob


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Mail Reader -

2021-01-24 Thread Bob Goodwin
I have Mil Reader listed in the menu on this computer.  Can someone tell 
me what the procedure is to make it read some text?    Bob


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Re: how to monitor data usage by app

2021-01-15 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-15 10:49, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:



I would like to know, how can a monitor which program or process is 
consuming my data? By day? or also in real time view process network 
consumption?


thank you, 

*
If you ate trying to track your "fastmail.fm" usage, I do that in my 
router which runs an old DD-Wrt variant "tomato usb ver. 1.28" which has 
an "ip traffic" mode showing usage ip address as well as totals om a 
daily basis.


*Bob*

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Re: Pulse Audio - -

2021-01-08 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-08 12:50, Jonathan Billings wrote:

What is the output of this command (running as your regular user)?

pactl info

.
For whatever reason I  can't do this via ssh from this computer, it has 
to be run in the F33 box and copied to a new file that ssh cn deal with. 
This iswhat I have so far ...


[root@Workstation-2 bobg]# cat  Desktop/pactl.txt
Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native
Library Protocol Version: 34
Server Protocol Version: 34
Is Local: yes
Client Index: 22
Tile Size: 65472
User Name: bobg
Host Name: Workstation-2
Server Name: pulseaudio
Server Version: 14.0-rebootstrapped
Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right
Default Sink: 
alsa_output.usb-C-Media_Electronics_Inc._USB_Audio_Device-00.analog-stereo
Default Source: 
alsa_input.usb-C-Media_Electronics_Inc._USB_Audio_Device-00.mono-fallback

Cookie: 6e6f:7cbe

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Pulse Audio - -

2021-01-08 Thread Bob Goodwin
In a new install of Fedora 33, XFCE there is no audio and when I try to 
use pavucontrol to troubleshoot the display starts but my cursor pointer 
is lost. I can do the same command from  this computer via ssh and get 
the following result:


[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ pavucontrol

Connection to pulseaudio failed. Automatic respawn in 5s.

What can I try next?

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Pulse aisoo -

2021-01-08 Thread Bob Goodwin
In a new install of Fedora 33, XFCE there is no audio and when I try to 
use pavucontrol to troubleshoot the display starts but my cursor pointer 
is lost. I can do the same command from  this computer via ssh and get 
the following result:


[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ pavucontrol

Connection to pulseaudio failed. Automatic respawn in 5s.

What can I try next?

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Re: xrandr -

2021-01-07 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-07 13:19, Samuel Sieb wrote:


There is no command that will keep it there through reboot.  You might 
be able to add an xorg snippet.  What desktop are you using that isn't 
getting the right resolution or keeping the one you set?

.
It's  xfce which has a settings menu item for Display which allows me to 
set the 1920x1080 but I have to click om Apply, then it displays 
instructions for saving that setting but it reverts to the previous 
display before I or a helper can read it.


However, I tried simply pressing return the last time and the setting  
held. I just rebooted the computer and it came up as I set it, 
1920x1080. So perhaps that problem is fixed ...


I will start  new thread for the next problem, no sound, pavucontrol 
locks the pointer.


Thanks for the help,     Bob

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xrandr -

2021-01-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
Can someone tell me the xrabdr command to set the scan to "1920x1080" 
and keep it there through reboot. I have a new Fedora 33 that I cant 
seem to get right.


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xrandr -

2021-01-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
Can someone tell me the xrabdr command to set the scan to "1920x`080" 
and keep it there through reboot. I have a new Fedora 33 that I cant 
seem to get right.


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Re: Espeak -

2021-01-05 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-05 19:47, Tim via users wrote:

I'm curious if you've tried other text-to-speech things on Fedora.
There are screen-readers, like Orca.

The voice from espeak is very primitive.  I'd consider it worse than my
30 year old Amiga's speech synth.

*
Ten or fifteen years ago there was an app. "Festival" that I tried when 
I first began having problems but never really needed it. It did not 
produce pleasant sound speech but did work. I still do not have clear 
speech from espeak after a lot of trial and error testing with various 
options in an attempt to see what affect they have.


So perhaps I will add to my confusion with 'orca.' I'll look for that 
tomorrow. Presently dnf is running very slow but I assume it will be 
there ...


Thanks for the suggestion, *Bob*

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Re: Espeak -

2021-01-05 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-05 06:19, Ed Greshko wrote:


Well, in a terminal I just did

echo "That is what I found and at that point I quit for the day" | espeak

And it was read to me.

*
copy/pasted "echo "That is what I found and at that point I quit for the 
day" | espeak" and got something that sounded like a duck reading that back.


Obviously my command was wrong. It does work, I will experiment with the 
options and see what I can do.


Thanks again for the help,    Bob


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Re: Espeak -

2021-01-05 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2021-01-04 20:16, Ed Greshko wrote:


man espeak says

espeak [options] [words]

The options being taking text from stdin or a file.

I could find no T-Bird addons that would integrate.

The simplest way would be to copy the text, paste the text into a 
file, and feed the file to espeak.

.

That is what I found and at that point I quit for the day, decided to 
ask for help.


I think it may be a problem with the audio path. I will look at pulse 
audio settings? Or perhaps the text file I pasted into LibreOffice was 
not good, too much uncertainty ... /I'll try again this morning.


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Espeak -

2021-01-04 Thread Bob Goodwin
Can "espeak" convert Thunderbird email messages into sound and if so how 
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Re: Search engines -

2020-12-18 Thread Bob Goodwin


On 2020-12-18 14:23, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

I'll wait with bated breath for your report about incoming sausage
spam.

I will report if it is a problem.

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Re: Search engines -

2020-12-18 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-18 11:28, Dave Stevens wrote:

I've long abandoned google for largely the reasons you set out.I use
either duckduckgo or startpage with useful and much quieter results.
Google does have some comparative strengths but I can revert
temporarily if I need to.

Dave
__


.
Either of those worked satisfactorily for me, Duckduck.com  seemed the 
best of the two for my test query about Italian Sausage Seasoning.


Thank you for the help,




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Search engines -

2020-12-18 Thread Bob Goodwin
I think that Google has become nearly useless. If my search term 
includes a word that triggers their advertising I am overwhelmed with 
responses that have little relationship to my query, it amounts to being 
overwhelmed with commercials.


I understand that they are trying to accumulate viewings for their 
advertisers but it has become a waste of my time. Can anyone suggest an 
alternative?


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Re: USB to LAN -

2020-12-10 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-10 12:45, Bob Goodwin wrote:



On 2020-12-10 11:21, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

   IF by "I can connect via ssh from my desktop workstation" you
mean you can ssh from desktop to the NFS server,  why not use rsync
from the desktop (assuming it is a Linux/Unix/OSX box):

.
There was a power outage and when I switched back on the NFS server 
was no longer available on the LAN. /t is still accessible using ssh 
and I would like to back up the data and re=install Fedora on it./

rsync -avz --partial --progress
user@nfs-box:/path/to/stuff/you/want/to/copy
/mountpoint/where/you/mounted/USB/drive

Can add the bwlimit option to keep it from using up your con
I can copy data m rsync should work. What I can not do now is access 
r=the external USB drive since it must be mounted on the NFS server 
and I don't know how to do that from the command line. Usually it pops 
up on the desktop Thunar file manager display where it can be mounted 
ans unmounted how to do that from the command line via ssh is my 
question?

.
Ok, I found it, when the external drive was plugged in to the NFS server 
it shows up as /dev/sdc. I mounted that and copied  the files: 101G    
/mnt/test/NFSdata/nfs4exports/home  to the my-book external drive.


Thanks for the help,    Bob

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Re: USB to LAN -

2020-12-10 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-10 11:21, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

   IF by "I can connect via ssh from my desktop workstation" you
mean you can ssh from desktop to the NFS server,  why not use rsync
from the desktop (assuming it is a Linux/Unix/OSX box):

.
There was a power outage and when I switched back on the NFS server was 
no longer available on the LAN. /t is still accessible using ssh and I 
would like to back up the data and re=install Fedora on it./

rsync -avz --partial --progress
user@nfs-box:/path/to/stuff/you/want/to/copy
/mountpoint/where/you/mounted/USB/drive

Can add the bwlimit option to keep it from using up your con
I can copy data m rsync should work. What I can not do now is access 
r=the external USB drive since it must be mounted on the NFS server and 
I don't know how to do that from the command line. Usually it pops up on 
the desktop Thunar file manager display where it can be mounted ans 
unmounted how to do that from the command line via ssh is my question?


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Re: USB to LAN -

2020-12-10 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-10 11:07, Kevin Becker wrote:

I think there may be some terminology confusion here.  It sounds to me like you 
have a NAS (network attached storage) device and you want to copy data from the 
NAS to an USB drive.
No, it is a network file system, and it is broken ... I once installed 
FreeNAS, a BSD program that was an nas and worked well enough, dunno if 
it is still available? But that's not my problem.


I don't think this is worth dwelling on any further=her, thanks all for 
the suggestions, Bob


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Re: USB to LAN -

2020-12-10 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-10 09:24, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

   Just to make sure I am not too confused -- I have not had my
morning tea yet -- you

1.  Have an external USB drive which is connected to your laptop
2. Want to make the contents of said USB drive available through NFS
3. Something about using an USB/LAN dongle
No, the NFS server can not be mounted  but I can connect via ssh from my 
desktop workstation.
The external drive is normally connected to a USB port on the desktop 
workstation.


I want top save the NFS data to the external drive connected to the 
desktop workstaion. It should be convenient if both computers could work 
with the external derive without moving cable connections. That was what 
I tried to ask initially ...


Mow I have the external mybook drive connected to the NFS USB but don't 
know how to mount the USB external drive on the NFS. Usually an icon 
should pop up on the screen but there is no monitor connected to the 
NFS, only SSH from this desktop.


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Re: USB to LAN -

2020-12-10 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-10 07:27, J.Witvliet--- via users wrote:


You mean: usb/LAN dongels?
Yes, they exist for ages.
Usb-2 will do max 100Mb,
For 1Gb you need usb3 (Dongle & Port)
Cisco have them, but I prefer those with a  tiny usb-cord, more 
flexible and less problems when patch cords are rigid.


I have one of those adapters I bought a few months ago, dunno if it will 
work for that but I can give it a try later.


Now I plugged the external into a USB on the back of the NFS main board. 
I can see it with LSUSB  via ssh. It did not mount automatically , the 
server has no display or keyboard connected to it. Any idea how to do 
that would help, if possible?




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USB to LAN -

2020-12-10 Thread Bob Goodwin
Is there an application for this workstation that will make the USB 
output from an external drive [WD-mybook] available to my ethernet LAN?


I want to save NFS data to the Mybook and as it is I will have to 
connect it to the NFS USB port.


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Re: RSYNC copy -

2020-12-09 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-09 09:34, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 09:29 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:

I have a failed NFS and would like to copy the data from the hard drive.
rsync seems the best way? What is the best set of rsync options to
ensure that I get everything?

 From 'man rsync':

--archive, -aarchive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X)

Optionally add 'v' (verbose) and 'z' (compression) according to taste.

poc
I should have been more specific in asking this. I am concerned with the 
possibility it will not go through directories. in the past I have had 
an empty list of directories. it didn't go through recursively in every 
one and I am not sure what options I used at that time since it was long 
afterward discovered. Just want to get it right without experimenting ...

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RSYNC copy -

2020-12-09 Thread Bob Goodwin
I have a failed NFS and would like to copy the data from the hard drive. 
rsync seems the best way? What is the best set of rsync options to 
ensure that I get everything?


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Re: KDE Startx -

2020-12-06 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-06 08:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Why doesn't it work (i.e. what actually happens)? Did you reboot after
installing SDDM? You may want to ask on the Fedora KDE list.

poc
_
Presently after another reboot, perhaps the tenth this morning, I got a 
screen full of tiny text, at least double spaced lines. CTRL ALT F2 and 
a login bobg, startxfce4 produces a normal xfce display and I 
switchdesk-ed back to xfce for the default.


Nothing has worked as easily as it usually does with Fedora
installs. I think we will try another install on a second drive.

Thanks for the help, *Bob*

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Re: KDE Startx -

2020-12-06 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-06 06:25, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

You want to start the KDE desktop from the command line?

Have you tried.

startkde

or

startplasma-x11

Alternatively (and perhaps better for most people), is to install SDDM
and start KDE directly from the login manager.

poc

.
None of those work for me. It looks like I will have to try reverting 
back to the graphic boot  which may work for me.


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KDE Startx -

2020-12-05 Thread Bob Goodwin
I usually run XFCE wit startx" at boot. I dnf group installed KDE but I 
find that it does not start with the same start command. Will this work? 
If so, what is the proper command in Fedora-33 after using "switchdesk" 
and rebooting?


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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-12-01 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-01 17:14, Samuel Sieb wrote:


I haven't found one that doesn't work with Fedora.  There's a standard 
USB protocol for them.

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Ok, I'll find one, thank you.

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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-12-01 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-01 17:13, Jorge Fábregas wrote:

Bob: Haven't followed the whole thread but...did you try booting off a
CD/USB? a Fedora 33 Live CD? Ubuntu?  And see if it works there...?


No but I tried Fedora-32 live I had on a flash drive, same problem.

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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-12-01 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-12-01 16:26, Samuel Sieb wrote:


You can get really cheap USB sound devices now.
__
Presumably they have a USB plug at one side and a mini phone jack on the 
other end, can you suggest one likely to work without Windows?


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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-12-01 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-30 18:19, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:


Or you're already a bit sick of it and install F32 ...

Wolfgang

.
No, I would probably wait for Fedora 34 and hope it works.

It is also possible the audio circuit has failed on the motherboard. I 
may also create a new Fedora-33 on the another drive in that computer, 
there is still /dev/sdb I can install on.


I also wasted a lot of time this morning trying to prove to myself that 
that computer still was able to produce sound somehow, it did not! I 
found a working Fedora-30 on a third hard drive, unfortunately the audio 
problem is the same on everything I tried, F30 and with ab E32 live on a 
flash drive I had.


I wonder if it is a setting in the cmos/bios in the MSI motherboard? 
That is a scary mess of fancy artwork with a number of icons that seem 
to do nothing. The last time I tried to make a change to the boot order 
it turned out bad. I had to remove the battery and reset it to the 
default conditions. I thought I had working sound after that, but I am 
beginning to think perhaps not?


The best solution may turn out to be a different motherboard. I will 
consider that ...


Thanks to all for the help,   Bob

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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-11-30 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-30 15:13, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:


I don't know that "XFCE volume control" - simply try to start
"pavucontrol &" (no quotes) from a terminal, then try to see options 
similar

to the picture on this page with the "Configuration" tab activated:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-permanent 



Then try the steps you quoted on top of this email: To start off click
the arrow down menus right of the text that says "Profile" on this
picture ...

.
pavucontrol will not run, it tells me:

Connection to pulseaudio failed. Automatic retry in 5 S

I guess XFCE volume doesn't react to that sitiuation.


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Re: Fedora-33 No Audio out -

2020-11-30 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-30 13:35, stan via users wrote:

On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 15:02:38 -0500
Bob Goodwin  wrote:


aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused

Did alsa recognize the sound devices? Check with
aplay -l

I've had this problem with shifting sound devices because of the video
(hdmi) device being recognized before the other audio devices.  This
makes sense, since the video has to be initialized early in the boot
process.  It is a race condition.  Wolfgang's suggestion that you use
pavucontrol to set the default sound device is a good one.  That way,
no matter the order that they are initialized in, pulse will always use
the device you want as the default output device.

You can also change the alsa default device in
/etc/alsa/alsactl.conf
However, if the order of sound devices changes with every boot, that
will be problematic.

You can put a file in
/etc/modprobe.d
to specify the order of devices explicitly, but that is more complex.
Basically, put stanzas like the following for each device.
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel id="SB"
options snd-hda-intel index=0
changing the card description to reflect the information from
aplay -l
and setting a different index number in the range 0-7 for each of them.
The file name doesn't matter as long as it is unique for that
directory, but choose something descriptive so you recognize it.
__

'
Well now I am overwhelmed with more information than I can deal with.

I have been comparing the files mentioned for the Fedora-32 system that 
has a working sound system with the Fedora-33 which does not. Other than 
the xfce volume control Configuration that I mentioned earlier I see:


[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ pulseaudio --kill
and then:
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ pulseaudio --start
N: [pulseaudio] main.c: User-configured server at 
{fc279515ec6c4fa39007fba37b0f7d6b}unix:/run/user/1000/pulse/native, 
refusing to start/autospawn.


Nothing seems to work ... I will continue the effort, probably start 
fresh tomorrow morning.


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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-11-30 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-30 12:27, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:

Bob,

On the pavucontrol GUI "Configuration" tab, try switching off all
"Profile"s that have HDMI devices to select from.

Then make sure in the hopefully remaining "Profile", that one of the
"Analog *" output options stays enabled.


.
I can't see how to turn off profiles? I'm looking at the XFCE volume 
control and can see them listed under Configuration but nothing 
j\happens when I click on the boxes at the left ...


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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-11-30 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-30 07:45, George N. White III wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 15:33, Bob Goodwin <mailto:bobgood...@fastmail.us>> wrote:rg

Those are MSI motherboards ...

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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-11-30 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-30 07:45, George N. White III wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 15:33, Bob Goodwin <mailto:bobgood...@fastmail.us>> wrote:


In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA
has no
input when viewing the pa volume display.

[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav
ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
Connection refused

aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused

For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my
audio
is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection
always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...

Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?


I have a couple years old Dell desktop that has audio out via HDMI,
rear panel speaker jack and front panel headset jack.  HDMI output is
useless due to low quality of the speakers in my monitor.  If I plug
in a headset a message comes up on the screen telling me that
audio is being sent to the headset.  This message appears to come
from the system firmware (independent of the OS).  It took a few
updates (Fedora 31) before Gnome allowed me to send audio to the
rear panel output.   There were complaints on forums for other distros.
You might want to mention your system details in case you need to
look for a driver that supports your firmware.

I think Dell is using laptop technology in desktops (the Dell keyboard
even has a Fn key next to the left Ctrl key, but lacks the hints on the
top row F1, etc. to tell me what the Fn key does -- maybe it is just
there to help my fingers when switching to a Dell laptop -- not helpful
when switching to a Thinkpad).

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°
Well my no name keyboard has a function key in that location too, but my 
computers are sort of home made, the two Fedora Workstations have MAI 
main boards and use XFCE which may be where my audio is being routed 
wrongly? My monitors use HDMI cables but I don't think I've had one with 
speakers. The audio in question happens to be connected to some good 
quality speakers that came with a separate amplifier unit my daughter 
bought for me. I put the computers in rack and panel style cases for my 
convenience in dealing with the cables and such, works well for me. I 
remap the keyboard for my convenience also, F15 types "°" and others do 
other things /want./


I don't have a headset to try but pa volume control tells me there is 
none plugged in, it only sees the HDMI "plugs."


Anyway Fedora 33 has been really problematic for me, I am reluctant to 
upgrade this Feodor 32 system since I need one working computer all the 
time. I rely on my Notecase Pro program for my notes, if my memory fails 
me i look there and then Google. That has been a struggle to get working 
in F33, but the creator provides excellent help promptly The first thing 
I look at when I boot in the morning is my Tkremind calendar and that 
did not work until I got the set up process straightened out, again the 
help there is very good. perhaps I should inquire on the xfce list about 
the sound problem? No one has suggested that ...


Bob

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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-11-29 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-29 18:10, Samuel Sieb wrote:


aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused


That says it can't connect to the pulseaudio daemon.  Is it running?
What does "ps auxw | grep pulse" show?
_

.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ ps auxw | grep pulse
bobg    1193  0.0  0.4 672264 32368 ?    Sl   06:31   0:40 
/usr/lib64/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 
/usr/lib64/xfce4/panel/plugins/libpulseaudio-plugin.so 8 18874383 
pulseaudio PulseAudio Plugin Adjust the audio volume of the PulseAudio 
sound system
bobg    1325  0.3  0.1 1500256 14740 ?   S/usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no --log-target=journal
bobg    8990  0.0  0.0 221564   848 pts/2    S+   19:13   0:00 grep 
--color=auto pulse


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Re: Fedora-33 No Audio out -

2020-11-29 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-29 16:51, Marco Guazzone wrote:

Hi,

On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 9:03 PM Bob Goodwin <mailto:bobgood...@fastmail.us>> wrote:


In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA
has no
input when viewing the pa volume display.

[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav
ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect:
Connection refused

aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused

For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my
audio
is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection
always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...

Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?


I am experiencing similar issues in Fedora 33 (I performed a fresh 
install as well).


Occasionally, my system has no audio (with pulseaudio that is unable 
to connect), and to get it back I have to run these commands:

  $ pulseaudio --kill
  $ pulseaudio --start

I suspect that the problem could be ascribed to the desktop 
environment that I am using (i.e., Cinnamon), as every time I tried to 
use Gnome I didn't experience that problem.

There were no such problems in Fedora 32.
My audio interface is integrated in my laptop's motherboard.

Best regards,
Marco

.
That did not fix the sound problem in Fedora-33
However it did work on Fedora-32 which has had no sound for six months 
or so.


Thanks for the help ... Bob

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Fedora-33 No Audio out -

2020-11-29 Thread Bob Goodwin
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has no 
input when viewing the pa volume display.


[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav
ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: 
Connection refused


aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused

For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my audio 
is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection 
always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...


Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?

Bob

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Fedora-33 No Sound -

2020-11-29 Thread Bob Goodwin
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has no 
input when viewing the pa volume display.


[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav
ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: 
Connection refused


aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused

For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my audio 
is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection 
always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...


Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?

Bob

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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound

2020-11-24 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-24 13:26, Jorge Fábregas wrote:

I see the built-in audio controller from Intel.  In pavucontrol, under
"Configuration"...do you see your card there? If so, what profile do you
have selected?

°
It shows "Profile: Digital Stereo (HDMI 3) Ouput

However I have wondered about this, the monitor is connecter HDMI but 
the audio id connected to the speaker outout jack, there are no speakers 
in the 32inch HP monitor that I am aware of.


It shows Built-Audio selected

and

Profile: Analog Stereo Duplex (unavailable)

Those items look questionaable to me?

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Re: Fedora-33 No Sound

2020-11-24 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-24 13:04, Jorge Fábregas wrote:

Try these commands as root to see if you see your soundcard there:

aplay --list-devices
cat /proc/asound/cards

And to see the driver (kernel module) being used (usually called snd*):
lsmod | grep snd

°

[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_codec_realtek   143360  1
snd_hda_codec_generic98304  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 73728  1
ledtrig_audio  16384  1 snd_hda_codec_generic
snd_hda_intel  57344  9
snd_intel_dspcfg   24576  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 163840  4 
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_core  110592  5 
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hwdep  16384  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_seq86016  0
snd_seq_device 16384  1 snd_seq
snd_pcm   131072  6 
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer  49152  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd   110592  26 
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_timer,snd_pcm
soundcore  16384  1 snd


I'd also install pavucontrol.  That's the "Pulse Audio volume Control" :
highly recommened to reroute sound streams but also to trobleshoot this
sort of thing.

°
Yes I always use the PAVolumecontrol to see what I can. as I said, there 
appears to be an input at Playback but nothing at the Output. Alsamixer 
shows levels set to 100% but no sound out ...


Thanks for responding,


HTH,


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Fedora-33 No Sound

2020-11-24 Thread Bob Goodwin
In a new install of Fedora-33 desktop I have no sound. I have fiddled 
with the problem for several days to no avail so I guess I need to ask 
for help.


PA Volume appears to get an input but i see no output ...

The system had sound with the previous install which was removed when 
anaconda did the present install. Any ideas, suggestions, whatever?  Bob


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Re: HTML/PDF -

2020-11-23 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-23 14:54, Richard Ibbotson wrote:

https://html2pdf.com/

This might work.

Yes and it was good enough for what I needed.

Thanks to everyone for the alternatives which I will save ...

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HTML/PDF -

2020-11-23 Thread Bob Goodwin
What is the best way to convert an HTML file to PDF. I have a two page 
report in HTML form that I want to change to PDF. I can scan a printed 
copy but I would like to convert the HTML file I received to PDF. 
LibreOffice reformat it into a four page document, I would prefer to 
keep the original two page style.


Bob

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Re: Speech to text -

2020-11-17 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-17 11:00, stan via users wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:32:46 -0500
Bob Goodwin  wrote:


   I am referring to the
application on smart phone that permits the user to dictate a message
  and send it as text. I receive email messages created that way
everyday from two people with android phones.

https://fosspost.org/open-source-speech-recognition-2020/

https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-open-source-speech-recognition-tools-for-linux/

.
The answer to my original question is no, there is nothing available to 
do what I asked, essentially to produce a text message by dictation. 
Actually someone had asked me if I could and I was not certain.


Thanks to all for the help,   Bob

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Re: Speech to text -

2020-11-17 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-17 10:18, David Dembrow wrote:


I found something called festival installed on my fedora system that 
includes text to speech.  Package festival-2.5.0-13.fc33.x86_64. 

.
When I looked at Festival in the past that is all it did, one thing, 
conventioneer text to spoken English. I am referring to the application 
on smart phone that permits the user to dictate a message  and send it 
as text. I receive email messages created that way everyday from two 
people with android phones.



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Speech to text -

2020-11-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
Is there a voice to text program that will work with Fedora Linux as 
some of my friends have for their smart phones? It would not have to be 
free to be considered.


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Re: Unsafe paste notice -

2020-11-07 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-07 09:11, Markus Schönhaber wrote:

07.11.20, 15:00 +0100 Bob Goodwin:


Hon can I eliminate the unsafe paste notification in Fedora 32 xfce?

You asked this before:
<https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/AVVSRYNR5P3RNNNUOPGPTWTTJQGABNAL/>

and Ed answered. Here's your reply to his answer:
<https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/E2K5SGQDR7OMXKVR6ZCOHH5WRLCYNJMG/>

.

"This is new "feature" of xfce4-terminal.

Go to Edit > Preferences > General tab and uncheck "Show unsafe paste
dialog"

This does not answer the question, how to eliminate the unsafe paste 
notice. I do not find any place to uncheck to eliminate this notice 
under edit, preferences, general or anywhere else in xterm.


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2020-11-07 Thread Bob Goodwin

Hon can I eliminate the unsafe paste notification in Fedora 32 xfce?

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Re: Fedora-33 Instal method -

2020-11-03 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-03 11:09, Ed Greshko wrote:


When you boot, Select "Install" and hit "TAB".

You will then have the ability to exit the line in question. 

.
Yes. 'tab' gives me a place to enter the command 'inst.text' however it 
eventually brings up the graphic install display. doing it from the 
"check media" menu item also brings up the graphic install.


It appears this will not work for a Fedora 33 network install ... But it 
was something I needed to try.


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Re: Fedora-33 Instal method -

2020-11-03 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-03 01:39, Chris Murphy wrote:

the command line
and add 'inst.text' and you'll get the text installer.

.
How do I do this? My options appear to be only: Install to disk, check 
media, troubleshoot


I tried "troubleshoot" but found no way to enter the command 'inst.text'

What am I doing wrong here, I'm booting the network installer from a USB 
flash drive ...

















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Re: Fedora-33 Instal method -

2020-11-02 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-11-02 16:38, Samuel Sieb wrote:
So my question boils down to is the installer GUI the only way to 
install Fedora 33?


There is a text mode interface, but it's not easy to use, especially 
the partitioning.  I couldn't really figure it out. Also, I think the 
resulting installed system will not boot to a graphical interface by 
default either.

.
/I normally boot from a text display, I have trouble with the graphic too./


Another method is to create a kickstart file to automate the install, 
but it's quite a bit of work for a single install. 

.
The 'simple install' is not simple for me to use ...

I may have to rely on my helpers then but I will look into the kick 
start process.



Thanks for responding,   Bob

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Fedora-33 Instal method -

2020-11-02 Thread Bob Goodwin

Is there any way to install Fedora 33 without using the install GUI?

This morning, out of desperation, I tried the Network Installer for 
Fedora Server but it is just another .iso that uses the same GUI as the 
others I have used that I am no longer able to deal with. I was hoping 
it would be a command line operation which I can still deal with.


In order to use the GUI I need some one to do it for me while I tell 
them how to respond to the menu items, difficult since it is something I 
do infrequently although I can usually muddle through, it is 
inconvenient at best.


I have not been able to get past the language selection screen, the 
first one, in the network fedora server GUI,  w/ould like to know if it 
offers the/ LVM or the "standard partitions?" I want the "standard 
partitions" not the LVM.


So my question boils down to is the installer GUI the only way to 
install Fedora 33?


Bob

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Thunderbird filters -

2020-10-28 Thread Bob Goodwin

I have installed  and updated Fedora-33-Beta with XFCE.

I have a problem configuring the received mail filter. I can create sub 
directories under inbox but the mail filter setup gui does not show them 
as available to send messages to. I have set up these filters many times 
and it normally works without problems but not this time.


Am I the only one having trouble with this?

Any suggestion appreciated, Bob


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Re: Enable ssh -

2020-10-25 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-25 15:21, Samuel Sieb wrote:


How are you trying to enable it?  If you're using Gnome, in the 
Cont+rol Panel under Sharing, there's a "Remote Access" toggle.

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I don't know why I had so much trouble doing that. My daughter did the 
install with me telling her how to respond to the items and I might have 
missed something. I thought I had her do it right.


Normally systemctl start and enable sshd works but it did not until I 
did as Richard Shaw suggested and it worked. I'm a poor typist and 
probably couldn't see my own mistype.


Thanks to all for the help,    Bob/
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Enable ssh -

2020-10-25 Thread Bob Goodwin
I have a new Fedora 32 and it will not allow user 'bobg' to enable sshd, 
I believe this is a feature to protect the system from me. How do i fix 
it so I can do the things I want to do?


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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-24 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-23 04:56, Merovingian Puccioni wrote:


https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive

And make a USB stick that can boot any one of a collection
of iso images off the USB stick. I got the last few versions
of ubuntu and fedora, memtest, and systemrescue all able to
boot from the one usb stick.

.
I downloaded "ventoy-1.0.25-livecd.iso" How should I "make a usb stick?" 
Should it be simply copied "cp" to a flash drive? I did not find clear 
directions, but I have need for this and will try it.


Thanks,    Bob


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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-22 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-21 22:21, Tim via users wrote:

I wouldn't do it (writing an iso over the network from NFS storage,
due to the network possibly messing up the integrity of the iso
image) but you should still be able to with the "dd" command.  Issue
a "mount" command and you should see the mount path of your NFS
storage.  Then, as Bob explained, do "dd if=/path/to/NFS-
storage/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M status=progress oflag=direct"

You've been misattributing who said what, it was ME who gave Bob a "dd"
example, but...

*
I'm sorry about the missed attribute, I thought it was pretty much 
implied since it was part of a thread in which several people had 
contributed similar advice. Beyond that the responses begin to look more 
bloggy to me, I've noticed some messages just giving acknowledgement, 
too much for the list I think. If it is important I will change my 
thinking. But be assured I read and consider what you say and thank you 
for it!


Yes I did not understand the role media writer plays in the 
installation, the important thing is that now I can see how to do much 
of the job with text in a terminal, the reason I wrote the initial query.


Yes, I want "Standard Partitions" as media writer names it, rather than 
a Fedora 33 LVM system which I find adds a layer of complexity I prefer 
not to have.


As for chances of NFS contributing errors in this process, it was not a 
factor since I still had a copy of the .iso file in Downloads and used 
it. However the NFS server provides data I use routinely as long as this 
system is running and I have recognized no problems caused by it.


Thank you for your help,    Bob




If you were trying to burn a DVD from an ISO file over NFS, I'd be a
bit hesitant about relying it to supply uninterrupted data to the
burner.  But churning data from an ISO via NFS to other kinds of media,
such as USB flashdrives, oughtn't to be any problem.


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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-21 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-21 15:49, Jonathan Billings wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by 'getting the standard partition
scheme'.  Are you talking about the install from the newly-written
Fedora disk?  Or the actual layout of partitions on the USB storage
you just wrote?

Fedora Media Writer doesn't do anything different than dd, it just
writes the ISO to the disk.  It doesn't change the partition scheme,
it doesn't affect the install, it just puts the ISO image of the
Fedora installer on the removable disk.

.
Well then it may be it will do what I want when I run the install to 
disc part, I just done want Fedora installed using LVM.


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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-21 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-21 10:34, Lance Lassetter wrote:


I wouldn't do it (writing an iso over the network from NFS storage, 
due to the network possibly messing up the integrity of the iso image) 
but you should still be able to with the "dd" command.  Issue a 
"mount" command and you should see the mount path of your NFS 
storage.  Then, as Bob explained, do "dd 
if=/path/to/NFS-storage/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M status=progress 
oflag=direct"


Lance

.
Well 'dd' worked without a problem to clear the PNY 64GB drive I that 
was at hand and I put Fedora 33 beta on  it:


[root@WS-1 /]# dd 
if=/home/bobg/Downloads/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-33_Beta-1.3.iso 
of=/dev/sdc bs=8M status=progress

2028060672 bytes (2.0 GB, 1.9 GiB) copied, 126 s, 16.1 MB/s
241+1 records in
241+1 records out
2028060672 bytes (2.0 GB, 1.9 GiB) copied, 126.227 s, 16.1 MB/s
[root@WS-1 /]# sync

Put the flash drive in the other computer to test, the nedia chck worked 
and it started and asked if it should install to disk. That worked 
simply enough once I understood the instructions. I will try it on this 
box where I want to install  to /dev/sdb.


My only concern is getting the standard partition scheme, I may need 
media writer for that.




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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-21 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-21 10:34, Lance Lassetter wrote:
I wouldn't do it (writing an iso over the network from NFS storage, 
due to the network possibly messing up the integrity of the iso image) 
but you should still be able to with the "dd" command.  Issue a 
"mount" command and you should see the mount path of your NFS 
storage.  Then, as Bob explained, do "dd 
if=/path/to/NFS-storage/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M status=progress 
oflag=direct"


Lance

-
/I will not do it that way then, I probably have the .iso on this 
computer  or will copy what I saved to the server. I have not been aware 
of any problem using files from my NFS though, I keep data on it  that I 
use om this box routinely, it always seems to just work like it was 
local. The server is in a rack behind the monitor in front of me, an 
ethernet jumper away. A convenience making my data available on another 
computer and for the next version of Fedora when it is here./


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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-21 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-21 09:34, Tim via users wrote:

"dd" on the command line is one alternative.  But I suspect your
problem is expecting Media Writer to do something that it doesn't do,
and you forgot how you actually did it last time.
  

.
Upon completing it's work media writer presents a block that says 
"Install." I do not know what happens after I click on that except that 
it does what is needed to finish the job. Quite possibly it is using 
"dd" as you describe.


I have a lot more to think about now and I will probably experiment with 
the dd method.


Again I thank you.   Bob

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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-21 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-20 22:09, Tim via users wrote:

MediaWriter is used to create your installation media from the ISO file
that you've downloaded.

In a lot of cases, you can use the "dd" tool in the command line to
datadump the ISO file onto a USB flashdrive, and boot up the installer
from that flash drive.  Make sure that you pick the right device for dd
to write to, and that your flashdrive is big enough.

The installation instructions on Fedora's website does describe this
method.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/

dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M status=progress oflag=direct

Some notes:

Work out the device your flashdrive is mounted at, and then unmount the
flashdrive.

if= sets the input file path (to avoid surprises, use the full
filepath).

of= sets the output file path (make sure that you replace sdX with the
correct device for your flashdrive).

bs=8M sets the blocksize to 8 megabytes for each chunk being written to
the flashdrive.

status=progress gives you some indicators that write activity is happening.

oflag=direct has something to do with directly writing to the drive,
rather than going through a cache (which can mean you think you're
writing to the drive, think that you've finished writing the drive, but
the you'd only written to the cache, and writing to the drive is still
going on).

Some versions of dd don't support those last two options.

°

this all good information but I have never used media writer to create 
the fedora.iso installation media. n a released version there is 
normally a webpage offering a download which I save and can put on a 
thumb drive, cdrom, whatever.


Media writer has a "custom" which will see read the .iso from the copy I 
saved in "Downloads." In this case I have the Fedora 33 beta .iso and 
tried to use that file from my copy on NFS. the problem I had was it 
could not be pointed to the install location, it insists on using the 
4TB drive on my LAN, and it appears that would work but it's not what I 
want  and normally do. I have another drive in this computer with Fedora 
31 on it and that drive should show as an available install target in 
the media writer gui.


That is how I have done. Sometimes I create install media on a flash 
drive, but I have had some instances where the flash drive is not 
recognized?


However this is just something I thought I would do but does not work 
and I can wait until the released version is available, in which case I 
would have liked to know how to avoid the media writer application that 
I always find difficult to use, but always muddle through.


Thanks for the help,   Bob

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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-20 15:38, George N. White III wrote:




Mediawriter is just used to create bootable installation media, 
normally a
"live" USB key that boots to a GUI.   The alternative is to create a 
kickstart
file that specifies a text mode install, but "The text user interface 
is limited,
for example, it does not allow you to modify the partition layout or 
set up LVM".

See:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/el/fedora/rawhide/install-guide/advanced/Kickstart_Installations/#chap-kickstart-installations

You still need bootable install media.

.
Ok, this is enough to tell me to wait for the released version and use 
Media Writer to set up and start the installation as I have done in the 
past.


Thank you for the advice, Bob


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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-20 13:21, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Your question is very unclear.  Are you looking for a different way to 
install that's not a boot disk or are you looking for a different way 
to create the boot disk?

.
I simply want to install Fedora 33 beta on an existing drive in this 
computer. I have always started the installation process with Media 
Writer. Presently it has a new undesirable quirk and insists on 
installing to a WD Mybook and nothing else, but after that will come 
trying to convince it that I want standard partitions not LVM, the gui 
is near impossible for me to read, I keep inverting the video or getting 
someone to help me ... I would like an alternative way to do the 
installation where I want it to be. The command line in a terminal 
preferably, else I will eventually struggle through it again ...


I don't want to sound demanding, I was just asking for a different way 
to do this if anyone knows?


Thank you,    Bob

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Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-20 12:56, Lance Lassetter wrote:
Just make sure you get the bootloader straight if you're dual booting 
with Windows.

.
Perhaps that would be better but I don't have Windows.

I would prefer installing from a terminal, a command line is usually 
better for me. I have a copy of Fedora 33 beta I would install to 
another hard drive, that is much that avoids the problems of dual booting.


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Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Bob Goodwin

There must be some other way to install fedora than using "mediawriter?"

I want to install a copy of fedora-33 on another drive and I would like 
to try a different method if someone can suggest one. Google has not 
helped ...


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Re: Notifications -

2020-10-15 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-15 08:22, Ed Greshko wrote:


It exists on my Xfce F32 Terminal

https://imgur.com/gallery/5LCyeqO

.
Yes, you are right, the check is there. My visual acuity is poor and I 
did not expect it to be in the middle of a line of text, I never saw it.


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Re: Notifications -

2020-10-15 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-14 21:27, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 15/10/2020 08:53, Bob Goodwin wrote:
How can I stop it from warning me about pasting unsafe files? 


Oh, maybe this?

https://superuser.com/questions/1469262/how-to-disable-the-new-copy-paste-protection-in-xfce 



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I assumed this was peculiar to Fedora rather than an XFCE "feature" and 
wondered why I was the only one complaining ...


The check box mentioned is not present in this Fedora32 box when I do 
this procedure in an xfce terminal. "/usr/bin/xfce4-terminal --maximize"


"This is new "feature" of xfce4-terminal.

Go to Edit > Preferences > General tab and uncheck "Show unsafe paste 
dialog".

.
I will ask on the xfce list if I can't find something under "settings."

Thanks for the help.



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Re: Notifications -

2020-10-14 Thread Bob Goodwin


On 2020-10-14 19:46, Ed Greshko wrote:
dnf erase dnfdragora-updater dnfdragora 


Thanks much for that.

How can I stop it from warning me about pasting unsafe files?

I /have yet to paste anything I consider unsafe and always close it and 
proceed. If I damage the system it is my system on my computer./


Thanks,    Bob


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2020-10-14 Thread Bob Goodwin

This is Fedora 32 updated and using xfce.

How can I stop it from warning me about pasting unsafe files?

Even more annoying are the dragora update notices, I don't need dragora, 
I dnf update first thing after rebooting every morning.


Help appreciated, *Bob*

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Re: mount.nfs4: access denied

2020-10-13 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-10-13 16:15, Jonathan Billings wrote:

When you got the new device, it looks like the local network addressing 
changed. Did your NFS client’s IPs change too?  Do you need to update the 
/etc/exports on the NFS server to reflect the change in IPs?


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.
Th[s what I found:

[root@NFS-Server bobg]# cat  /etc/exports
# /nfs4exports/home 
192.168.50.0/24(rw,sync,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check\


I changed '50' to '2'
then: exportfs -ra  and  [root@localhost /]# mount 
192.168.2.128://home/bobg/Public/nfs4exports/home /media/nfs


Seems to enable me to mount the server. I think 'fstab' will have to be 
changed accordinly ...


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mount.nfs4: access denied

2020-10-13 Thread Bob Goodwin

.
I replaced my router with a different one and changed the ipaddress and 
now I can not mount the NFS server, the "fstab" lines show it best:


First router:
# 192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home  /media/nfs nfs4 
re,soft,int,ff,comment=systems.autonomous  0 0


Second router:
   192.168.2.128:/nfs4exports/home  /media/nfs    nfs4 
re,soft,int,ff,comment=systems.autonomous  0 0


When I try to mount the second router "access' is denied,
[root@localhost /]# mount -a
mount.nfs4: access denied by server while mounting 
192.168.2.128:/nfs4exports/home


I did not make any change to the NFS server, It was working before the 
change and the second router has always worked and still does, I can ssh 
to it, the apple iPhones/iPads, whatever, (they do not use NFS) can 
connect to the wifi, but I can not mount NFS with  my wired connection 
from the desktop.


/I did not expect this problem, some help appreciated, *Bob

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Re: WD Mycloud -

2020-09-30 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-29 23:03, Tim via users wrote:

On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 11:58 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:

I just want to get the filed off this thing and will consider it an
error in my judgement. I bought an overpriced 4TB hard drive that I
will use elsewhere and happily toss the WD My Cloud housing in the
trash.

The idea of a small network storage device sounds good to a lot of
people, myself included.  But you soon find these things are annoying
to use in various ways.

.
You also find that the design features change with time. This one no 
longer exists so those changes not a concern for me. It could not be 
disassembled as shewn in a video I found on line. We used a band saw to 
slice off three edges since the circuit board does not simply slide out 
once the end cover is pied off, the remainder is just removal of screws, 
leaving what appears to be atypical desktop drive.


I need to find the external housing I plan on using to run it rather 
than put it in a computer at this time. Much of my computer stuff is 
stored in the attic since a new hardwood floor installation project and 
I need help finding things so that may have to wait until others return 
from vacation in a few days.

.
/I have other things that should work however Apple reuses to work with 
NFS leaving Samba the best option I have it seems. From my experience 
the best Samba related storage scheme is the router with it's USB port. 
I have never been able to  make that work on the ASUS router I'm using 
presently. I intend to deal with that next./




If you have a full computer running 24/7 as a server, you're better off
to add a big data-only drive to it, and use it.  At least you can make
an ordinary Linux install do what you want it to.
I don't know why they call these little boxes cloud servers.  You can't
run software on them, they're just storage.  Well, you can hack them.
But the idea of cloud computing was that you could start running
something on one cloud device, then float it over to another device on
demand.  These things can't do that.


The Apple iPhone does not keep the original file in memory long
enough to extract it to the Mycloud. I assume that is done to save
memory in the mobile device, it sends the original image to their
iCloud server and leaves smaller thumbnails in memory.

That's probably configurable, or ought to be.

.
The equipment may be reconfigurable but the users may not be. From my 
observations there are enough difficulties in getting the user systems 
working as they want them to that they wont change what works for them. 
i have met resistance there.


It should be possible to configure the cloud device into a reasonable
configuration (so long as they haven't taken away features, which is
why some people don't let them auto-update their firmware).

Once you know the IP for the device, you can simply open that address
in your webbrowser and use the device's in-built webserver to change
the settings.  If you wade around, you'll find NFS, SSH, FTP, and other
options you can switch on.  I turned off lots of useless things, to me,
like itunes, media servers, etc., to stop it wasting time indexing the
drive.

.
The ip's are assigned by the router dhcp server and are always known. 
before yesterday's actions, there was access through my browser and WD's 
Mycloud server somewhere and with a lot of fiddling I could display 
trial images I had stored on the the unit on my desk, it was horribly 
slow and erratic in operation, of no use to me.


They tend to stick everything in a Public folder where everyone can
read and write to.  If you set up individual users, you can have
personal storage spaces in their own names.  However, you often find
they still have read/write permissions for everyone.  They rely on
intermediate serving software to apply access restrictions in the
middle.
  .
My needs would be satisfied wit everything in a Public partition, they 
can create their own sub directories and put stuff where they like, it 
is all family users and no outside internet connection. It should be 
easy to use for all users ...


Thanks for the helpful advice,   Bob

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Re: WD Mycloud -

2020-09-29 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-28 22:01, Tim via users wrote:

If you're at the end of your tether, you can disassemble the cloud
device, and plug the hard drive into a spare SATA port on your
computer, or use one of those SATA to USB adaptors, and just mount the
drive.  I've done that with a cloud that bricked itself, plugged it
into my Linux box, and double-clicked the icon that appeared on the
desktop for the large partition, and the system mounted it for me.

.
Yes that sounds like the best option in this case. I am encouraged to 
know that you actually did the same thing I have been considering. /I've 
already wasted too much time looking at this problem whenever I had the  
inclination to give it another try. I just want to get the filed off 
this thing and will consider it an error in my judgement. I bought an 
overpriced 4TB hard drive that I will use elsewhere and happily toss the 
WD My Cloud housing in the trash.


The Apple iPhone does not keep the original file in memory long enough 
to extract it to the Mycloud. I assume that is done to save memory in 
the mobile device, it sends the original image to their iCloud server 
and leaves smaller thumbnails in memory. Saving them to the Mycloud 
requires they be downloaded from their server, I realized this after 
letting the system run for a few days and watched the data usage numbers 
on my Viasat internet climb way above my months allowance.


I also thank Mark Allman for the information he provided but immediately 
got bogged down since access via ssh is disabled in it by default and it 
require a Mac device to enable that which I can't deal with presently, 
Too many obstacles.


Thank you Tim.


/

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WD Mycloud -

2020-09-28 Thread Bob Goodwin
I have  some JPEG files on a Western Digital My cloud drive that I would 
like to extract. I regret ever getting involved with it but now I need 
to get the files off it and the software they provide to do that is for 
Windows. Has anyone found a way to do this with Fedora, F-32 preferably?


Bob

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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-17 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-16 20:39, Roger Heflin wrote:

it should have been mv * ../../  I had a brain fart.

Too busy at work trying to figure out why an updated kernel has
userspace issues (bash stack smash crash/abort in udevd/late
initramfs, a failure to boot), but the old kernel with the exact same
userspace is fine.

°
I wondered about that dot, it asked me if it was ok to write and I told 
it "Y". No damage done, just left things as they were. And I've learned 
a new command ...


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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-16 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-16 12:28, Roger Heflin wrote:

cd /home/bobg//Public/nfs4exports/home and do a "mv . ../../"
   and everything in /home/bobg//Public/nfs4exports/home will be moved
to /home/bobg/Public (up 2 directories).  This will be fast and only
move the file headers since both locations are on the same
LV/mountpoint.

°
I did:
 [root@nfs bobg]# mv . ../../
But for whatever reason the the files did not move? I dunno why but I 
will try that again with something less critical.


Since I am inconvenienced without the NFS server I used the long name to 
export and in /etc/fstab on the client. I have /media/nfs mounted and  
have access to the stored files. I still need to reboot the client and 
make certain I can save to the server.


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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-16 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-15 19:59, George N. White III wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 17:10, Bob Goodwin <mailto:bobgood...@fastmail.us>> wrote:




On 2020-09-15 06:58, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Well, never trusting the "mv" command, I decided to do some
experimenting and did:

[root@nfs bobg]# mv /nfs4exports /home/bobg/Public

expecting to move my stored data into "Public" and it did that but
the
result is not quite what I thought it would be now this is where
it is:

/home/bobg/Public/nfs4exports/home


More direct would have been "# mv /nfs4exports/home 
/home/bobg/Public", but
the hard work of copying data to the big drive has been done.   You 
should
verify that your root partition has gained the same amount of space 
that you
lost on the "/home" partition.   As others have  already mentioned, it 
should be a trivial
operation to move the contents of "/home/bobg/Public/nfs4exports/home" 
to one of the
parent directories because no files need to copied, just updating some 
directories.

°
/I should have checked df -h before:

/[root@nfs bobg]# df -h
Filesystem   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs 1.8G 0  1.8G   0% /dev
tmpfs    1.8G 0  1.8G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs    1.8G  1.3M  1.8G   1% /run
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root   69G  6.9G   58G  11% /
tmpfs    1.8G  8.0K  1.8G   1% /tmp
/dev/sda2    976M  254M  655M  28% /boot
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home  3.6T   65G  3.3T   2% /home
tmpfs    360M  8.0K  360M   1% /run/user/987
tmpfs    360M  4.0K  360M   1% 
/run/user/1000


It shows 65GB removed from  "/" and saved to 
"/home/bobg//Public/nfs4exports/home" which contains the saved files. 
It's a long file name but I guess I should just export that?


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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-16 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-16 01:04, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-09-16 04:09, Bob Goodwin wrote:

Well, never trusting the "mv" command, I decided to do some experimenting and 
did:

You know, if you're not comfortable with knowing how a command works or what 
results it
will produce it is best not to work with "live/real" data.

In this case, you could have created a directory structure in the same manner 
as your real
data and used mv on it to see the results.

°
I am surprised that you are the first one to point out this error in my 
procedure. I expected to hear that in the first response to my questions.


I have developed some confidence in the people who give me instruction 
on this list and needed to try the command. I also knew that before 
asking g any questions I had copied my stored data to another drive on 
my LAN so if I had a major problem I could still reconstruct things.


But you are right and I usually take care to cover myself when doing 
things like that. I also looked at the man page and "mv" appears to be a 
better way to do the job than just coping and erasing later ... I have 
had some unpleasant surprises with 'rsync' producing copies of 
directories containing no files? I gave learned to inspect the results, 
*Bob*


You could even go so far as to use a VM for testing commands and other things 
you're concerned
may not do as you intend.


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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-15 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-15 06:58, Bob Goodwin wrote:

I will do as you suggest

°
Well, never trusting the "mv" command, I decided to do some 
experimenting and did:


[root@nfs bobg]# mv /nfs4exports /home/bobg/Public

expecting to move my stored data into "Public" and it did that but the 
result is not quite what I thought it would be now this is where it is:


/home/bobg/Public/nfs4exports/home

Which I assume is what I would or could export with /etc/ecxports

I think the best ting I might do now is to move thins back to where they 
were, return the data back to /nfs4exports

But it takes a while to run this and I would like to get it right.

Will this restore what I had originally,

mv /home/bobg/Public/nfs4exports/home   /nfs4exports

or will it create an even longer file name?

Help, my confidence is shrinking,   Bob

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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-15 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-15 06:07, George N. White III wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 19:37, Bob Goodwin <mailto:bobgood...@fastmail.us>> wrote:




On 2020-09-14 18:20, George N. White III wrote:
>
>
>     Presentiy /etc/exports is:
>
>     [bobg@nfs ~]$ cat /etc/exports
>     /nfs4exports/home
>
192.168.50.0/24(rw,sync,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
<http://192.168.50.0/24(rw,sync,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)>
>   
 <http://192.168.50.0/24(rw,sync,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)>


Looks like a mail program tried to make a link.

>
>     It looks like I am exporting the wrong location/partition ...
>
>
> Did you mean to export "/home/nfs4exports"?
>
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°
If that will store the data in the large "'home" partition that shows
only 4% used, yes. But at this point I'm not sure what to do to
correct
this, can I edit the /etc/exports file in the server directly. I
assume
I will need to change fstab accordingly too.


Yes on all counts.  We need to work on building your confidence by
showing you how to verify that each change you make is working as
expected.

On the server, I suggest you copy "/etc/exports" to "/etc/exports.new",
edit "/etc/exports.new" to make the change and post the .new file here
so others can check for problems.  Once you are confident that the
changes are good, you can use "showmount -e" to record the
current state, then, on the client, unmount the server so you can
make the change:

On the client, unmount all nfs filesystems:
step 0. sudo umount -a -t nfs
Back on the server, you need to stop exporting the old directory,:

step 0: sudo exportfs -u "/nfs_share/home"

then move the data from "/nfs_share/home" to "/home/nfs_share":

step 1: sudo mv /nfs_share/home /home/nfs_share
systemctl daemon-reload
Check that /nfs_share is empty, that /home/nfs_share
has the expected contents, and that the root partition has gained
roughly the same space that has been lost on the /hom
Check that /nfs_share is empty and that /home/nfs_share
has the expected contents.

Update "/etc/exports", and export the new "/home/nfs_share":

step 2. sudo mv /etc/exports /etc/exports.old
step 3. sudo mv /etc/exports.new /etc/exports
step 4: sudo  exportfs -av

Verify that this worked by running "showmount -e"

Back on the client, make a  "/etc/fstab.new" with the same process and 
post
for review.  The version you posted earlier seems to have a typo, but 
that may

have occurred when posting.

Once you are confident in your fstab, replace the original version 
with the updated

version

step 5: sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old
step 6: sudo mv /etc/fstab.new /etc/fstab

Then let systemd know about the changes:

step 7: sudo  systemctl daemon-reload
step 8:
e partition
by running "df -lh / /home"

Update "/etc/exports", and export the new "/home/nfs_share":

step 2. sudo mv /etc/exports /etc/exports.old
step 3. sudo mv /etc/exports.new /etc/exports
step 4: sudo  exportfs -av

Verify that this worked by running "showmount -e"

Back on the client, make a  "/etc/fstab.new" with the same process and 
post
for review.  The version you posted earlier seems to have a typo, but 
that may

have occurred when posting.

Once you are confident in your fstab, replace the original version 
with the updated

version

step 5: sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old
step 6: sudo mv /etc/fstab.new /etc/fstab

Then let systemd know about the changes:

step 7: sudo  systemctl daemon-reload

Verify that the changes are working: the contents of "/media/nfs"
should look the same as they did before the server ran out of space
on the root partition.

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°
I will do as you suggest and report back. I appreciate the time and 
thought you put into this.


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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-14 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-14 18:20, George N. White III wrote:



Presentiy /etc/exports is:

[bobg@nfs ~]$ cat /etc/exports
/nfs4exports/home
192.168.50.0/24(rw,sync,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
<http://192.168.50.0/24(rw,sync,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)>

It looks like I am exporting the wrong location/partition ...


Did you mean to export "/home/nfs4exports"?

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If that will store the data in the large "'home" partition that shows 
only 4% used, yes. But at this point I'm not sure what to do to correct 
this, can I edit the /etc/exports file in the server directly. I assume 
I will need to change fstab accordingly too.



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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-14 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-13 19:57, Roger Heflin wrote:
Do a "df /nfs4exports/home" an "ls -ld /"  a "ls -ld 
/nfs4exports/home" and a "ls -ld /nfs4exports/" and a "ls -l 
/nfs4exports".


On the client you can tell which device it is using by what df shows 
for it, if / it will show the size of / and if correct it will show 
the sizes of the correct fs.

.
I have been using this NFS server for a long time and it has always 
worked well until root filled and there was no further storage space. I 
rely on it for the data stored on it, stuff like my calendar, notes, etc.


I collected the requested information:

[bobg@nfs ~]$ df /nfs4exports/home
Filesystem  1K-blocks Used Available 
Use% Mounted on

/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root  71724152 69849984 0 100% /

[bobg@nfs ~]$ ls -ld /
dr-xr-xr-x. 20 root root 4096 Dec  9  2019

[bobg@nfs ~]$ ls -ld /nfs4exports/home
drwxrwxr-x. 37 bobg bobg 4096 Sep 10 09:19 /nfs4exports/home

[bobg@nfs ~]$ ls -ld /nfs4exports/
drwxrwxr-x. 3 bobg bobg 4096 Dec  8  2019 /nfs4exports/

[bobg@nfs ~]$ ls -l /nfs4exports
total 4
drwxrwxr-x. 37 bobg bobg 4096 Sep 10 09:19 home

[root@WS1 bobg]# df -h
Filesystem   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs 3.9G 0  3.9G   0% /dev
tmpfs    3.9G  298M  3.6G   8% /dev/shm
tmpfs    3.9G  1.7M  3.9G   1% /run
/dev/sda5 69G   51G   15G  78% /
tmpfs    3.9G   92K  3.9G   1% /tmp
/dev/sda1    976M  274M  636M  31% /boot
/dev/sda2    839G   29G  767G   4% /home
//192.168.50.25/bobg 610G  464G  146G  77% /mnt/smb
tmpfs    783M   20K  783M   1% /run/user/1000
192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home   69G   67G 0 100% /media/nfs

Obviously the data should be stored in "/home" which is what I expected.

Presentiy /etc/exports is:

[bobg@nfs ~]$ cat /etc/exports
/nfs4exports/home 
192.168.50.0/24(rw,sync,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)


It looks like I am exporting the wrong location/partition ...




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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-13 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-12 20:44, Roger Heflin wrote:

If bob did the exportfs -r prior to mounting /home/whatever that is to
be exported then it would have exported the directory on / and not
what was later mounted.

He needs to umount the nfs clients, and run exportfs -r on the server
and remount on the clients.   And make sure that if the directory
fails to mount on a reboot then the exportfs -r will need to be rerun.

The showmount -e will not show if it is the dir on / or the dir on the mount.

°
I tried this several times and ways and finally rebooted the computer 
and ssh in to the server to do the exportfs -r. However as soon as the 
computer is booted I found /media /nfs was mounted. I unmounted that, 
checked to verify the umount was effective and then did the "exportfs 
-r" command on the nfs server. I also did showmount -e:


[root@nfs bobg]# showmount -e
Export list for nfs:
/nfs4exports/home 192.168.50.0/24

I also did:

[root@nfs bobg]# ll /
ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
total 72
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root 7 Jul 24  2019 bin -> usr/bin
dr-xr-xr-x.   7 root root  4096 Dec  8  2019 boot
drwxr-xr-x.   2 root root  4096 Dec  6  2019 data
drwxr-xr-x.  20 root root  4200 Sep 13 11:36 dev
drwxr-xr-x. 134 root root 12288 Sep 11 22:38 etc
drwxr-xr-x.   4 root root  4096 Dec  5  2019 home
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root 7 Jul 24  2019 lib -> usr/lib
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root 9 Jul 24  2019 lib64 -> usr/lib64
drwx--.   2 root root 16384 Oct 23  2019 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x.   2 root root  4096 Mar 14  2020 media
drwxr-xr-x.   5 root root  4096 Mar  7  2020 mnt
drwxrwxr-x.   3 bobg bobg  4096 Dec  8  2019 nfs4exports
drwxr-xr-x.   2 root root  4096 Jul 24  2019 opt
dr-xr-xr-x. 162 root root 0 Sep 11 22:38 proc
dr-xr-x---.   8 root root  4096 Sep 13 10:44 root
drwxr-xr-x.  43 root root  1320 Sep 13 11:36 run
lrwxrwxrwx.   1 root root 8 Jul 24  2019 sbin -> usr/sbin
drwxr-xr-x.   2 root root  4096 Jul 24  2019 srv
dr-xr-xr-x.  13 root root 0 Sep 11 22:38 sys
drwxrwxrwt.  12 root root   260 Sep 13 11:36 tmp
drwxr-xr-x.  12 root root  4096 Oct 23  2019 usr
drwxr-xr-x.  20 root root  4096 Oct 23  2019 var

My data to be stored is bsing put in /nfs4exports/home/ which is different than /home, 
but they are all under root. Is "/home" on the 3.4 TB partition or is it still 
in the 69GB root partition? How do I know? Am I exporting the wrong file?

gparted shows:
/dev/sda2    ext4 /boot   1.00 GiB   ...etc...
/dev/sda3    lvm2 pv fedora_localhost...  3.64 TiB

The more I look at this the more confused I get. Bob





On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 6:31 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:

On 2020-09-13 07:21, Jonathan Billings wrote:

On Sep 12, 2020, at 14:57, Bob Goodwin  wrote:

/I am the onlly client and my fstab is:
192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home  /media/nfsnfs4 
rw,soft,intr,fg,comment=systemd.automout  0 0

I see a typo in the “comment=systemd.automout”.

Also, earlier mail makes me think it’s not actually mounted.  What does “mount 
-a” return?

Does /media/nfs exist?  Once you get the fstab fixed, test to see if it 
automounts.


FWIW, I believe the preferred current option is now

x-systemd.automount

And if desired

x-systemd.idle-timeout=
x-systemd.mount-timeout=

See, man systemd.mount

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Re: NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-12 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-12 11:59, George N. White III wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 11:56, Bob Goodwin <mailto:bobgood...@fastmail.us>> wrote:


/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home  3.6T  4.8G  3.4T 1% /home 



I need to fix it. I don't know where to look for my mistake,
Obviously I
want to store files in the 3.4 TB partition not root.



I assume the above is for your NFS server.   "showmount -e" should
show you what directory is exported call it "/nfs_share".

.
Yes, via ssh:  [bobg@WS1 ~]$ ssh -X bobg@192.168.50.32

[bobg@nfs ~]$ showmount -e
Export list for nfs:
/nfs4exports/home 192.168.50.0/24


Assuming you want to move the exported directory to "/home/nfs_share",

.
/I am the onlly client and my fstab is:
192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home  /media/nfs    nfs4 
rw,soft,intr,fg,comment=systemd.automout  0 0


/

there should be an entry for "/nfs_share" in "/etc/exports

This is what I find in /etc/exports (I odn't remeber how it was created.)
[bobg@nfs ~]$ cat /etc/exports
/nfs4exports/home 
192.168.50.0/24(rw,sync,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)


At this point I m lost, I expected the stored files to go to "home" not "/".

Bob -


".
If you want to avoid changing the client mount commands, you can use a
symbolic link:

0.  Ask your clients to stop using the share
1.   sudo exportfs -u "/nfs_share"
This disables the share so you can move it

2.   sudo mv "/nfs_share" /home
this should free some space in the root partition

3.   sudo ln -s "/home/nfs_share" ""
this should avoid the need for any NFS configuration
changes

4. sudo exportsfs "/nfs_share"

This may be an oversimplification, e.g. if you have separate shares
for each user.   If this isn't what you need, show us the output of
"showmount -e" and the contents of "/etc/exports".
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NFS configuration problem -

2020-09-12 Thread Bob Goodwin
'df -h" shows the following:


 /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root   69G   67G 0 100% /
tmpfs    1.8G  8.0K  1.8G   1% /tmp
/dev/sda2    976M  254M  655M  28% /boot
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home  3.6T  4.8G  3.4T   1% /home

I need to fix it. I don't know where to look for my mistake, Obviously I 
want to store files in the 3.4 TB partition not root.


Any help appreciated,    Bob

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Re: Fn key -

2020-09-02 Thread Bob Goodwin



On 2020-09-01 21:30, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 9/1/20 5:23 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Well then the next thing I will do is see how the F8 key code changes 
when Fn is pressed. It did not occur to me, I just expected Fn to be 
another key code which it seems it is not. /If it will retain the 
present setting through a reboot I may never have to use it.I don't 
know about the other DEs, but Gnome will remember the settings for 
each monitor.  So I can use a projector, or the the TV, or a monitor 
and it will switch to the settings I used there last time when I plug 
it in.

°
It remembered the display setting. I have not looked at the key dodes 
yet. Viasat has been down since last night and that causes confusion 
here ...


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