Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-12 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
Hi,





We have move the MacOS discussion to this new thread, please reply to this 
thread in the future for this discussion.



I will answer the modification on the atomsExtract.sci first. 



Once you have edit the function, you need to run the sci file above in order to 
use the updated code. However, this will only valid for temporary as long as 
you Scilab is active, and you did not run the command "clear" in Scilab.



To make it permanent for your machines, u can run the buildmacros.sci in the 
modules/atoms/macros (to be confirm, i am on windows now), the it will 
"compile" the sci file and make it permanent for you.



Thanks.



rgds,
CL







---

Hi,



I installed the Scilab from the new dmg:



=

--> [version, opts] = getversion()

opts =



!GCC x64 modelicac release Aug 19 2019 11:47:50 !



version =



scilab-6.0.2

=



When running Atoms from the menu it still would start nor populate the

atoms-list.



Running from terminal, this allows to run atomsList from command line but

not from. In fact the menu does not react to the mouse.



atomsInstall works from the command line, though.



Edited the atomsExtract.sci as described above, but I guess the sci has to

be re-compiled, correct?



Anyway, I restarted scilab ap by clicking on the app icon, and now I could

start the atoms GUI from the menu.



IPCV still shows the sub-directory issues. I fixed this again manually by

moving files and sue-dirs around.



Then I tried to install another module ("Neural Networks ..."). Again the

regex issue:



===

Startup execution:

loading initial environment



Start CelestLab => Version 3.3.1



Start IPCV 4.1 for Scilab 6.0

Image Processing and Computer Vision Toolbox for Scilab

2019 - Bytecode Malaysia

Load macros

Load dependencies



Pre-Compiled OpenCV lib used

Load gateways

Load help

Load demos



at line 5 of function processHTMLLinks (

/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_gui/cbAtomsGui.sci

line 427 )

at line 113 of function updateDescFrame (

/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_gui/cbAtomsGui.sci

line 286 )

at line 22 of function cbAtomsGui (

/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_gui/cbAtomsGui.sci

line 36 )



regexp: Unknown error.

===



So... no apparent change on my machine to the previous version (official

stable release) of Scilab 6.0.2.. Sorry.









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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-12 Thread knobs 
Hi,

I installed the Scilab from the new dmg:

=
--> [version, opts] = getversion()
 opts  = 

!GCC  x64  modelicac  release  Aug 19 2019  11:47:50  !

 version  = 

 scilab-6.0.2
=

When running Atoms from the menu it still would start nor populate the
atoms-list.

Running from terminal, this allows to run atomsList from command line but
not from. In fact the menu does not react to the mouse.

atomsInstall works from the command line, though.

Edited the atomsExtract.sci as described above, but I guess the sci has to
be re-compiled, correct?
 
Anyway, I restarted scilab ap by clicking on the app icon, and now I could
start the atoms GUI from the menu.

IPCV still shows the sub-directory issues. I fixed this again manually by
moving files and sue-dirs around.

Then I tried to install another module ("Neural Networks ..."). Again the
regex issue:

===
Startup execution:
  loading initial environment

Start CelestLab => Version 3.3.1

Start IPCV 4.1 for Scilab 6.0
Image Processing and Computer Vision Toolbox for Scilab
2019 - Bytecode Malaysia
Load macros
Load dependencies

 Pre-Compiled OpenCV lib used
Load gateways
Load help
Load demos

at line 5 of function processHTMLLinks (
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_gui/cbAtomsGui.sci
line 427 )
at line   113 of function updateDescFrame  (
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_gui/cbAtomsGui.sci
line 286 )
at line22 of function cbAtomsGui   (
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_gui/cbAtomsGui.sci
line 36 )

regexp: Unknown error.
===

So... no apparent change on my machine to the previous version (official
stable release) of Scilab 6.0.2.. Sorry.




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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-11 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
Thanks Samuel for pointing this out. yes, you're right, if we've group the 
email, it will be the same as the one seen in the link, unless we've chosen the 
"Flatten" view in the email client. 



We shall open another new thread on this discussion or else it will not match 
the subject again. :)





rgds,

CL


 On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 03:39:01 +0800 Samuel Gougeon  wrote 




Le 11/11/2019 à 18:01, Chin Luh Tan a
  écrit :

Hi, 



I just aware that Samuel has pointed out about the
  "hijacking" a thread, in fact, this topic was hijacked from
  the original topic "[Scilab-users] lincos instruction :
  example file pendulum_anim45.zcos is corrupted - Buggzilla
  16221" .



Look at this link:



http://mailinglists.scilab.org/Scilab-users-lincos-instruction-example-file-pendulum-anim45-zcos-is-corrupted-Buggzilla-16221-tc4039887.html



We would not able to see the topic on MacOS but instead, it
  is hiding under the lincos topic. 



How it happens? 



I think a lot of time when we wanted to post to the user
  list, we just simple open one email, and the click reply,
  delete the contents and put in new subjects, and this is how
  we hijacked a topic. So the original topic looks very active,
  but it was talking about something else. 



>From email, it looks ok,



Thank you, Chin Luh.

It's the same issue with emails, if the mailer is set to thread
  mails (i could not work without this feature. Who could?).
 If a hijacked thread is folded, the hijacking discussion becomes
  completely hidden.




Regards
 




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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-11 Thread Samuel Gougeon 

Le 11/11/2019 à 18:01, Chin Luh Tan a écrit :

Hi,

I just aware that Samuel has pointed out about the "hijacking" a 
thread, in fact, this topic was hijacked from the original topic 
"[Scilab-users] lincos instruction : example file pendulum_anim45.zcos 
is corrupted - Buggzilla 16221" .


Look at this link:

http://mailinglists.scilab.org/Scilab-users-lincos-instruction-example-file-pendulum-anim45-zcos-is-corrupted-Buggzilla-16221-tc4039887.html

We would not able to see the topic on MacOS but instead, it is hiding 
under the lincos topic.


How it happens?

I think a lot of time when we wanted to post to the user list, we just 
simple open one email, and the click reply, delete the contents and 
put in new subjects, and this is how we hijacked a topic. So the 
original topic looks very active, but it was talking about something 
else.


From email, it looks ok,


Thank you, Chin Luh.

It's the same issue with emails, if the mailer is set to thread mails (i 
could not work without this feature. Who could?).
If a hijacked thread is folded, the hijacking discussion becomes 
completely hidden.



Regards


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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-11 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
correction, i meant, this topic had hijacked the topic "[Scilab-users] lincos 
instruction : example file pendulum_anim45.zcos is corrupted - Buggzilla 16221" 
, not the other way. 

apologize to Pierre PERRICHON for hijacking your thread. :)

rgds,
CL

 On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 01:01:31 +0800 Chin Luh Tan 
 wrote 


Hi, 



I just aware that Samuel has pointed out about the "hijacking" a thread, in 
fact, this topic was hijacked from the original topic "[Scilab-users] lincos 
instruction : example file pendulum_anim45.zcos is corrupted - Buggzilla 16221" 
.



Look at this link:



http://mailinglists.scilab.org/Scilab-users-lincos-instruction-example-file-pendulum-anim45-zcos-is-corrupted-Buggzilla-16221-tc4039887.html



We would not able to see the topic on MacOS but instead, it is hiding under the 
lincos topic. 



How it happens? 



I think a lot of time when we wanted to post to the user list, we just simple 
open one email, and the click reply, delete the contents and put in new 
subjects, and this is how we hijacked a topic. So the original topic looks very 
active, but it was talking about something else. 



>From email, it looks ok, but if you refer to the link above, we can see the 
>problem.



I've to admit that I've done that before as well. :)



What's the impact?



The thread become very messy and misleading for future reference.



So to avoid this happen again, click on new email and sent to the user list, it 
will create a new thread. 



I've create a new thread for this MacOS case, please reply to this thread for 
only this topic. :)



Thanks everyone.



Regards,

CL




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[Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-11 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
Hi, 



I just aware that Samuel has pointed out about the "hijacking" a thread, in 
fact, this topic was hijacked from the original topic "[Scilab-users] lincos 
instruction : example file pendulum_anim45.zcos is corrupted - Buggzilla 16221" 
.



Look at this link:



http://mailinglists.scilab.org/Scilab-users-lincos-instruction-example-file-pendulum-anim45-zcos-is-corrupted-Buggzilla-16221-tc4039887.html



We would not able to see the topic on MacOS but instead, it is hiding under the 
lincos topic. 


How it happens? 



I think a lot of time when we wanted to post to the user list, we just simple 
open one email, and the click reply, delete the contents and put in new 
subjects, and this is how we hijacked a topic. So the original topic looks very 
active, but it was talking about something else. 



>From email, it looks ok, but if you refer to the link above, we can see the 
>problem.



I've to admit that I've done that before as well. :)



What's the impact?



The thread become very messy and misleading for future reference.


So to avoid this happen again, click on new email and sent to the user list, it 
will create a new thread. 



I've create a new thread for this MacOS case, please reply to this thread for 
only this topic. :)



Thanks everyone.



Regards,

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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-11 Thread knobs 
Hi,

Great detective work. Thank you!

Sorry, I have been too busy to try out the new beta version (S.‘s dmg).

Will do this soon, probably on the weekend.

W.



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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-05 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
Hi, 


I totally agreed to use -x instead to exclude the folder, this will also 
eliminate the extra unnecessary folder. Thanks for the better fix. 


As for the extra folder case, it could be very tricky as there are many 
possibilities of the dev packaging an module,  it could make the packaging 
flexible,  but also lacking of standardization?


Just my thought


Thanks


Rgds,
CL




 On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 17:52:42 +0800 stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote 



Le 05/11/2019 à 08:18, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit :


Great analysis !


Le 5 nov. 2019 à 07:16, Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :



Hi,



just to add on to the issue on the atomsInstall. I finally find out that the 
issue was due to the extra "__MACOSX" folder created during zip process under 
MAC.



"The __MACOSX folder is created when a Mac user creates and archive (also 
called a zip file) using the Mac. If the Mac user sends the zip file to another 
Mac user, the folder will not appear - this is a hidden folder. "

 

During the atomsInstall process, the module zip file will be downloaded in the 
SCI\contrib\module_name\module_name.zip (or the SCIHOME atoms) and extract it.



In this stage, for windows and linux, it will be only one directory in 
SCI\contrib\module_name, namely module_name,

The packaging rules do not impose that the package root dir has the name 
"module_name". For example latest scicv has root dir "scicv-0.4".


If the zip or tar.gz contains more than one directory (by accident, or else) 
then it can break atomsExtract, on every platform. The atomsInstall process 
should end when such an incoherence is detected.


In the meantime (before the proposed above fix), to avoid repackaging all OSX 
zip packages it would be simpler to use the -x flag of unzip, e.g. like this


unzip IPCV-4.1-MacOS-bin.zip -x __MACOSX/*



    elseif regexp(archive_in,"/\.zip$/","o") <> [] then

    if getos() == "Windows" then
    extract_cmd =  + 
getshortpathname(pathconvert(SCI+"/tools/zip/unzip.exe",%F)) + ;
    else
    extract_cmd = "unzip";
    end

    extract_cmd = extract_cmd + " -q -o """ + archive_in + """ -d """ + 
pathconvert(dir_out,%F) +;
   
    if getos() == "Darwin"
    extract_cmd = extract_cmd + " -x __MACOSX/*"
    end

    end

    [rep,stat,err] = unix_g(extract_cmd);


and it will be renamed to version number, such as 1.0, and the module 
installation would be successful. 



In Mac, it will have extra __MACOSX folder (unless the module packager manually 
remove it) and it will cause the system to detect this folder as the newly 
created module, and rename this to the version number, which the actual folder 
module_name, will remained as it is and gives error during module loading.

 

While guideline could be given to the modules developer to remove the _MACOSX 
folder before releasing it, we could also add the following line in 
atomsExtract function to ensure the renaming function find the correct folder 
instead of __MACOSX folder. 



atomsExtract.sci



    // Get the list of directories after the extraction

    // =



    dirs_after = atomsListDir(dir_out);



    dirs_after(dirs_after=='__MACOSX') = [];   // <-- extra line proposed to add

   

    // Get the name of the created directory

    // =



    dir_created = [];



    for j=1:size(dirs_after,"*")

    if find(dirs_after(j) == dirs_before) == [] then

    dir_created = dirs_after(j);

    break;

    end

    end

 



This shall solve the issue of module installation problem under MACOS.



Thanks.



Regards,
CL








 On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 01:06:37 +0800  wrote 




There is a big difference in the inherited environment when scilab is launched 
from the command line and by clicking the icon.
In the past I solved a problem with the LANG variable

https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/20787/
https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/21069/

the second one is still not merged in master but has been included in 19 august 
build of Scilab 6.0.2 for OSX (the one available from www.scilab.org), since it 
was really blocking for many users.

Just to say that the regexp problem may be due to a similar problem (locale, 
encoding, ...)

S.

Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :

ok, i did:

 

1. Del both previous scilab and the scilab from your link installed just now to 
make it clean

2. Totally remove the .Scilab folder under home folder by using sudo rm -R 
.Scilab

3. Re-download the link 

4. Double click and install (by dragging the scilab icon to application folder)

5. run scilab from the app and type atomsList

 

Same regexp error until i launch it from terminal, and then it is ok. 

 

noted on the atoms issue for the modules with gateway, will try to look into it.

 

p/s: will continue any extra testing tomorrow. 

 

rgds,
CL
 

 

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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-05 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 

Le 05/11/2019 à 08:18, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit :


Great analysis !

Le 5 nov. 2019 à 07:16, Chin Luh Tan  
a écrit :



Hi,

just to add on to the issue on the atomsInstall. I finally find out 
that the issue was due to the extra "__MACOSX" folder created during 
zip process under MAC.


"The __MACOSX folder is created when a Mac user creates and archive 
(also called a zip file) using the Mac. If the Mac user sends the zip 
file to another Mac user, the folder will not appear - this is a 
hidden folder."


During the atomsInstall process, the module zip file will be 
downloaded in the SCI\contrib\module_name\module_name.zip (or the 
SCIHOME atoms) and extract it.


In this stage, for windows and linux, it will be only one directory 
in SCI\contrib\module_name, namely module_name,


The packaging rules do not impose that the package root dir has the name 
"module_name". For example latest scicv has root dir "scicv-0.4".


If the zip or tar.gz contains more than one directory (by accident, or 
else) then it can break atomsExtract, on every platform. The 
atomsInstall process should end when such an incoherence is detected.


In the meantime (before the proposed above fix), to avoid repackaging 
all OSX zip packages it would be simpler to use the -x flag of unzip, 
e.g. like this


unzip IPCV-4.1-MacOS-bin.zip -x __MACOSX/*


    elseif regexp(archive_in,"/\.zip$/","o") <> [] then

    if getos() == "Windows" then
    extract_cmd =  + 
getshortpathname(pathconvert(SCI+"/tools/zip/unzip.exe",%F)) + ;

    else
    extract_cmd = "unzip";
    end

    extract_cmd = extract_cmd + " -q -o """ + archive_in + """ -d 
""" + pathconvert(dir_out,%F) +;


*    if getos() == "Darwin"**
**    extract_cmd = extract_cmd + " -x __MACOSX/*"**
**    end*

    end

    [rep,stat,err] = unix_g(extract_cmd);

and it will be renamed to version number, such as 1.0, and the module 
installation would be successful.


In Mac, it will have extra __MACOSX folder (unless the module 
packager manually remove it) and it will cause the system to detect 
this folder as the newly created module, and rename this to the 
version number, which the actual folder module_name, will remained as 
it is and gives error during module loading.


While guideline could be given to the modules developer to remove the 
_MACOSX folder before releasing it, we could also add the following 
line in atomsExtract function to ensure the renaming function find 
the correct folder instead of __MACOSX folder.


atomsExtract.sci

    // Get the list of directories after the extraction
    // 
=


    dirs_after = atomsListDir(dir_out);

*    dirs_after(dirs_after=='__MACOSX') = [];   // <-- extra line 
proposed to add*


    // Get the name of the created directory
    // 
=


    dir_created = [];

    for j=1:size(dirs_after,"*")
    if find(dirs_after(j) == dirs_before) == [] then
    dir_created = dirs_after(j);
    break;
    end
    end


This shall solve the issue of module installation problem under MACOS.

Thanks.

Regards,
CL




 On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 01:06:37 +0800 ** 
wrote 


There is a big difference in the inherited environment when
scilab is launched from the command line and by clicking the icon.
In the past I solved a problem with the LANG variable

https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/20787/


https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/21069/



the second one is still not merged in master but has been
included in 19 august build of Scilab 6.0.2 for OSX (the one
available from www.scilab.org), since it was really blocking for
many users.

Just to say that the regexp problem may be due to a similar
problem (locale, encoding, ...)

S.

Chin Luh Tan mailto:chinluh@bytecode-asia.com>> a écrit :

ok, i did:

1. Del both previous scilab and the scilab from your link
installed just now to make it clean
2. Totally remove the .Scilab folder under home folder by
using sudo rm -R .Scilab
3. Re-download the link
4. Double click and install (by dragging the scilab icon to
application folder)
5. run scilab from the app and type atomsList

Same regexp error until i launch it from terminal, and then
it is ok.

noted on the atoms issue for the modules with gateway, will
try to look into it.

p/s: will continue any extra testing tomorrow.

rgds,

Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-04 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 
Great analysis !

> Le 5 nov. 2019 à 07:16, Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> just to add on to the issue on the atomsInstall. I finally find out that the 
> issue was due to the extra "__MACOSX" folder created during zip process under 
> MAC.
> 
> "The __MACOSX folder is created when a Mac user creates and archive (also 
> called a zip file) using the Mac. If the Mac user sends the zip file to 
> another Mac user, the folder will not appear - this is a hidden folder. "
>  
> During the atomsInstall process, the module zip file will be downloaded in 
> the SCI\contrib\module_name\module_name.zip (or the SCIHOME atoms) and 
> extract it. 
> 
> In this stage, for windows and linux, it will be only one directory in 
> SCI\contrib\module_name, namely module_name, and it will be renamed to 
> version number, such as 1.0, and the module installation would be successful. 
> 
> In Mac, it will have extra __MACOSX folder (unless the module packager 
> manually remove it) and it will cause the system to detect this folder as the 
> newly created module, and rename this to the version number, which the actual 
> folder module_name, will remained as it is and gives error during module 
> loading.
>  
> While guideline could be given to the modules developer to remove the _MACOSX 
> folder before releasing it, we could also add the following line in 
> atomsExtract function to ensure the renaming function find the correct folder 
> instead of __MACOSX folder. 
> 
> atomsExtract.sci
> 
> // Get the list of directories after the extraction 
> // 
> =
> 
> dirs_after = atomsListDir(dir_out);
> 
> dirs_after(dirs_after=='__MACOSX') = [];   // <-- extra line proposed to 
> add
>
> // Get the name of the created directory
> // 
> =
> 
> dir_created = [];
> 
> for j=1:size(dirs_after,"*")
> if find(dirs_after(j) == dirs_before) == [] then
> dir_created = dirs_after(j);
> break;
> end
> end
>  
> 
> This shall solve the issue of module installation problem under MACOS.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> CL
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 01:06:37 +0800  wrote 
> 
> There is a big difference in the inherited environment when scilab is 
> launched from the command line and by clicking the icon.
> In the past I solved a problem with the LANG variable
> 
> https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/20787/
> https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/21069/
> 
> the second one is still not merged in master but has been included in 19 
> august build of Scilab 6.0.2 for OSX (the one available from www.scilab.org), 
> since it was really blocking for many users.
> 
> Just to say that the regexp problem may be due to a similar problem (locale, 
> encoding, ...)
> 
> S.
> 
> Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :
> 
> ok, i did:
>  
> 1. Del both previous scilab and the scilab from your link installed just now 
> to make it clean
> 2. Totally remove the .Scilab folder under home folder by using sudo rm -R 
> .Scilab
> 3. Re-download the link 
> 4. Double click and install (by dragging the scilab icon to application 
> folder)
> 5. run scilab from the app and type atomsList
>  
> Same regexp error until i launch it from terminal, and then it is ok. 
>  
> noted on the atoms issue for the modules with gateway, will try to look into 
> it.
>  
> p/s: will continue any extra testing tomorrow. 
>  
> rgds,
> CL
>  
>  
>  On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 00:24:53 +0800  wrote 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> stephane.motte...@utc.fr a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I don't have the regexp error. Here is my complete workflow:
> 
> 1 - Delete the eventual previous Sciab 6.0.2 I had in the /Applications/ 
> folder 
> 2 - Delete my .Scilab folder
> 3 - extract the .dmg I downloaded from 
> http://www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg
> 4 - double click the Scilab icon (with first launch usual but annoying 
> details...)
> 5 - click the ATOMS gui icon or type atomsList at Scilab prompt
> 
> Concerning the problem with IPCV (and maybe other packages with gateways, I 
> only tested IPCV), I did not address it in the above archive. I only modified 
> the scilab script (I will create a commit on codereview.scilab.org) and 
> removed the libcurl.dylib that was shipped in lib/thirdparty folder.
> 
> Best,
> 
> S.
> 
> Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :
> 
> Hi, 
>  
> from my end:
>  
> 1. The warning for the 10.15 gone. 
> 2. First launch from the app still give the regexp error when running 
> atomsList, but after running one time from terminal and get it run 
> successfully, I could run

Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-04 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
Hi,



just to add on to the issue on the atomsInstall. I finally find out that the 
issue was due to the extra "__MACOSX" folder created during zip process under 
MAC.



"The __MACOSX folder is created when a Mac user creates and archive (also 
called a zip file) using the Mac. If the Mac user sends the zip file to another 
Mac user, the folder will not appear - this is a hidden folder. "

 

During the atomsInstall process, the module zip file will be downloaded in the 
SCI\contrib\module_name\module_name.zip (or the SCIHOME atoms) and extract it. 



In this stage, for windows and linux, it will be only one directory in 
SCI\contrib\module_name, namely module_name, and it will be renamed to version 
number, such as 1.0, and the module installation would be successful. 



In Mac, it will have extra __MACOSX folder (unless the module packager manually 
remove it) and it will cause the system to detect this folder as the newly 
created module, and rename this to the version number, which the actual folder 
module_name, will remained as it is and gives error during module loading.

 

While guideline could be given to the modules developer to remove the _MACOSX 
folder before releasing it, we could also add the following line in 
atomsExtract function to ensure the renaming function find the correct folder 
instead of __MACOSX folder. 



atomsExtract.sci



    // Get the list of directories after the extraction 

    // =



    dirs_after = atomsListDir(dir_out);



    dirs_after(dirs_after=='__MACOSX') = [];   // <-- extra line proposed to add

   

    // Get the name of the created directory

    // =



    dir_created = [];



    for j=1:size(dirs_after,"*")

    if find(dirs_after(j) == dirs_before) == [] then

    dir_created = dirs_after(j);

    break;

    end

    end

 



This shall solve the issue of module installation problem under MACOS.



Thanks.



Regards,
CL






 On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 01:06:37 +0800   wrote 


There is a big difference in the inherited environment when scilab is launched 
from the command line and by clicking the icon.
 In the past I solved a problem with the LANG variable
 
 https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/20787/
 https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/21069/
 
 the second one is still not merged in master but has been included in 19 
august build of Scilab 6.0.2 for OSX (the one available from www.scilab.org), 
since it was really blocking for many users.
 
 Just to say that the regexp problem may be due to a similar problem (locale, 
encoding, ...)
 
 S.
 
 Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :
ok, i did:

 

1. Del both previous scilab and the scilab from your link installed just now to 
make it clean

2. Totally remove the .Scilab folder under home folder by using sudo rm -R 
.Scilab

3. Re-download the link 

4. Double click and install (by dragging the scilab icon to application folder)

5. run scilab from the app and type atomsList

 

Same regexp error until i launch it from terminal, and then it is ok. 

 

noted on the atoms issue for the modules with gateway, will try to look into it.

 

p/s: will continue any extra testing tomorrow. 

 

rgds,
 CL
 

 

 On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 00:24:53 +0800  wrote 


 




 







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Obviously, between points 3 and 4 I moved the Scilab app from the archive in 
the Appplication folder.
 
 mailto:stephane.motte...@utc.fr a écrit :
Hello,
 
 I don't have the regexp error. Here is my complete workflow:
 
 1 - Delete the eventual previous Sciab 6.0.2 I had in the /Applications/ 
folder 
 2 - Delete my .Scilab folder
 3 - extract the .dmg I downloaded from 
https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/1/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg
 4 - double click the Scilab icon (with first launch usual but annoying 
details...)
 5 - click the ATOMS gui icon or type atomsList at Scilab prompt
 
 Concerning the problem with IPCV (and maybe other packages with gateways, I 
only tested IPCV), I did not address it in the above archive. I only modified 
the scilab script (I will create a commit on codereview.scilab.org) and removed 
the libcurl.dylib that was shipped in lib/thirdparty folder.
 
 Best,
 
 S.
Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :

Hi, 

 

from my end:

 

1. The warning for the 10.15 gone. 

2. First launch from the app still give the regexp error when running 
atomsList, but after running one time from terminal and get it run 
successfully, I could run it from the app as after all. 

3. atomsInstall for the module with gateway folder still extracted to 2 
separate

Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-04 Thread stephane . mottelet 
 There is a big difference in the inherited environment when scilab  
is launched from the command line and by clicking the icon.

In the past I solved a problem with the LANG variable

https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/20787/
https://codereview.scilab.org/#/c/21069/

the second one is still not merged in master but has been included in  
19 august build of Scilab 6.0.2 for OSX (the one available from  
www.scilab.org), since it was really blocking for many users.


Just to say that the regexp problem may be due to a similar problem  
(locale, encoding, ...)


S.

Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :


ok, i did:
    
   1. Del both previous scilab and the scilab from your link  
installed just now to make it clean
   2. Totally remove the .Scilab folder under home folder by using  
sudo rm -R .Scilab

   3. Re-download the link 
   4. Double click and install (by dragging the scilab icon to  
application folder)

   5. run scilab from the app and type atomsList
    
   Same regexp error until i launch it from terminal, and then it is ok. 
    
   noted on the atoms issue for the modules with gateway, will try  
to look into it.

    
   p/s: will continue any extra testing tomorrow. 
    
   rgds,
CL
    
    
 On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 00:24:53 +0800   
 wrote 

 

Obviously, between points 3 and 4 I moved the Scilab app from the  
archive in the Appplication folder.


stephane.motte...@utc.fr a écrit :


Hello,

I don't have the regexp error. Here is my complete workflow:

1 - Delete the eventual previous Sciab 6.0.2 I had in the  
/Applications/ folder 

2 - Delete my .Scilab folder
3 - extract the .dmg I downloaded  
from http://www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg[1]
4 - double click the Scilab icon (with first launch usual but  
annoying details...)

5 - click the ATOMS gui icon or type atomsList at Scilab prompt

Concerning the problem with IPCV (and maybe other packages with  
gateways, I only tested IPCV), I did not address it in the above  
archive. I only modified the scilab script (I will create a commit  
on codereview.scilab.org) and removed the libcurl.dylib that was  
shipped in lib/thirdparty folder.


Best,

S.

   Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :


Hi, 
  
 from my end:
  
 1. The warning for the 10.15 gone. 
 2. First launch from the app still give the regexp error  
when running atomsList, but after running one time from terminal  
and get it run successfully, I could run it from the app as after  
all. 
 3. atomsInstall for the module with gateway folder still  
extracted to 2 separate folders which need to be manually move in  
order for it to run. No issue for macros only module. 

  
 Thanks for the great effort. Is is possible to share the  
compilation steps? 

  
 rgds,
 CL
  
    
   On Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:40:20 +0800  
 wrote 

   


Did you test the Atoms stuff ?

Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :


On 04.11.2019, at 14:55, stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:

Thanks Samuel. So the regexp error can eventually have the  
same cause (libcurl version mismatch). I have packaged a  
scilab-6.0.2 without these libraries (and removing the 10.15  
warning) for OSX users at the following URL:


https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/1/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg[2]

CL, Heinz, Willi can you test it ?


 Works to perfection and without this funny warning.
  
  

I recommend temporary renaming/moving your  
.Scilab/scilab-6.0.2 directory before testing


 Thanks. Very helpful. Great suggestion. I would  
not have thought of it…..

  
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2019-11-04 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
ok, i did:



1. Del both previous scilab and the scilab from your link installed just now to 
make it clean

2. Totally remove the .Scilab folder under home folder by using sudo rm -R 
.Scilab

3. Re-download the link 

4. Double click and install (by dragging the scilab icon to application folder)

5. run scilab from the app and type atomsList



Same regexp error until i launch it from terminal, and then it is ok. 



noted on the atoms issue for the modules with gateway, will try to look into it.



p/s: will continue any extra testing tomorrow. 



rgds,
CL




 On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 00:24:53 +0800   wrote 



Obviously, between points 3 and 4 I moved the Scilab app from the archive in 
the Appplication folder.
 
 mailto:stephane.motte...@utc.fr a écrit :
Hello,
 
 I don't have the regexp error. Here is my complete workflow:
 
 1 - Delete the eventual previous Sciab 6.0.2 I had in the /Applications/ 
folder 
 2 - Delete my .Scilab folder
 3 - extract the .dmg I downloaded from 
http://www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg
 4 - double click the Scilab icon (with first launch usual but annoying 
details...)
 5 - click the ATOMS gui icon or type atomsList at Scilab prompt
 
 Concerning the problem with IPCV (and maybe other packages with gateways, I 
only tested IPCV), I did not address it in the above archive. I only modified 
the scilab script (I will create a commit on codereview.scilab.org) and removed 
the libcurl.dylib that was shipped in lib/thirdparty folder.
 
 Best,
 
 S.
Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :

Hi, 

 

from my end:

 

1. The warning for the 10.15 gone. 

2. First launch from the app still give the regexp error when running 
atomsList, but after running one time from terminal and get it run 
successfully, I could run it from the app as after all. 

3. atomsInstall for the module with gateway folder still extracted to 2 
separate folders which need to be manually move in order for it to run. No 
issue for macros only module. 

 

Thanks for the great effort. Is is possible to share the compilation steps? 

 

rgds,

CL





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Did you test the Atoms stuff ?
 
 Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :
On 04.11.2019, at 14:55, mailto:stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:

Thanks Samuel. So the regexp error can eventually have the same cause (libcurl 
version mismatch). I have packaged a scilab-6.0.2 without these libraries (and 
removing the 10.15 warning) for OSX users at the following URL:
 
 
https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/2/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/antispam.utc.fr/proxy/2/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/antispam.utc.fr/proxy/1/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg
 
 CL, Heinz, Willi can you test it ?

Works to perfection and without this funny warning.





I recommend temporary renaming/moving your .Scilab/scilab-6.0.2 directory 
before testing


Thanks. Very helpful. Great suggestion. I would not have thought of it…..



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2019-11-04 Thread stephane . mottelet 
 Obviously, between points 3 and 4 I moved the Scilab app from the  
archive in the Appplication folder.


stephane.motte...@utc.fr a écrit :


Hello,

I don't have the regexp error. Here is my complete workflow:

1 - Delete the eventual previous Sciab 6.0.2 I had in the  
/Applications/ folder 

2 - Delete my .Scilab folder
3 - extract the .dmg I downloaded  
from http://www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg
4 - double click the Scilab icon (with first launch usual but  
annoying details...)

5 - click the ATOMS gui icon or type atomsList at Scilab prompt

Concerning the problem with IPCV (and maybe other packages with  
gateways, I only tested IPCV), I did not address it in the above  
archive. I only modified the scilab script (I will create a commit  
on codereview.scilab.org) and removed the libcurl.dylib that was  
shipped in lib/thirdparty folder.


Best,

S.

  Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :


Hi, 
 
from my end:
 
1. The warning for the 10.15 gone. 
2. First launch from the app still give the regexp error when  
running atomsList, but after running one time from terminal and get  
it run successfully, I could run it from the app as after all. 
3. atomsInstall for the module with gateway folder still  
extracted to 2 separate folders which need to be manually move in  
order for it to run. No issue for macros only module. 

 
Thanks for the great effort. Is is possible to share the  
compilation steps? 

 
rgds,
CL


  On Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:40:20 +0800  
 wrote 



Did you test the Atoms stuff ?

Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :


On 04.11.2019, at 14:55, stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:

Thanks Samuel. So the regexp error can eventually have the same  
cause (libcurl version mismatch). I have packaged a scilab-6.0.2  
without these libraries (and removing the 10.15 warning) for OSX  
users at the following URL:


https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/1/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg[1]

CL, Heinz, Willi can you test it ?


Works to perfection and without this funny warning.

I recommend temporary renaming/moving your .Scilab/scilab-6.0.2  
directory before testing


Thanks. Very helpful. Great suggestion. I would not have thought of it…..

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 Hello,

I don't have the regexp error. Here is my complete workflow:

1 - Delete the eventual previous Sciab 6.0.2 I had in the  
/Applications/ folder 

2 - Delete my .Scilab folder
3 - extract the .dmg I downloaded  
from http://www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg
4 - double click the Scilab icon (with first launch usual but annoying  
details...)

5 - click the ATOMS gui icon or type atomsList at Scilab prompt

Concerning the problem with IPCV (and maybe other packages with  
gateways, I only tested IPCV), I did not address it in the above  
archive. I only modified the scilab script (I will create a commit on  
codereview.scilab.org) and removed the libcurl.dylib that was shipped  
in lib/thirdparty folder.


Best,

S.

 Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :


Hi, 
    
   from my end:
    
   1. The warning for the 10.15 gone. 
   2. First launch from the app still give the regexp error when  
running atomsList, but after running one time from terminal and get  
it run successfully, I could run it from the app as after all. 
   3. atomsInstall for the module with gateway folder still  
extracted to 2 separate folders which need to be manually move in  
order for it to run. No issue for macros only module. 

    
   Thanks for the great effort. Is is possible to share the  
compilation steps? 

    
   rgds,
   CL


 On Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:40:20 +0800   
 wrote 



Did you test the Atoms stuff ?

Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :


On 04.11.2019, at 14:55, stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:

Thanks Samuel. So the regexp error can eventually have the same  
cause (libcurl version mismatch). I have packaged a scilab-6.0.2  
without these libraries (and removing the 10.15 warning) for OSX  
users at the following URL:


https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/1/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg[1]

CL, Heinz, Willi can you test it ?


Works to perfection and without this funny warning.

I recommend temporary renaming/moving your .Scilab/scilab-6.0.2  
directory before testing


Thanks. Very helpful. Great suggestion. I would not have thought of it…..

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2019-11-04 Thread Heinz Nabielek 
all 66 atoms here, as before

Greetings from Heinz

> On 04.11.2019, at 15:40, stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:
> 
> Did you test the Atoms stuff ?
> 
> Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :
> 
>>> On 04.11.2019, at 14:55, stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Samuel. So the regexp error can eventually have the same cause 
>>> (libcurl version mismatch). I have packaged a scilab-6.0.2 without these 
>>> libraries (and removing the 10.15 warning) for OSX users at the following 
>>> URL:
>>> 
>>> https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/1/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg
>>> 
>>> CL, Heinz, Willi can you test it ?
>>> 
>> Works to perfection and without this funny warning.
>> 
>>> I recommend temporary renaming/moving your .Scilab/scilab-6.0.2 directory 
>>> before testing
>>> 
>> Thanks. Very helpful. Great suggestion. I would not have thought of it…..
>> 
>> Thanks for your dedication to this work.Heinz
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2019-11-04 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
Hi, 



from my end:



1. The warning for the 10.15 gone. 

2. First launch from the app still give the regexp error when running 
atomsList, but after running one time from terminal and get it run 
successfully, I could run it from the app as after all. 

3. atomsInstall for the module with gateway folder still extracted to 2 
separate folders which need to be manually move in order for it to run. No 
issue for macros only module. 



Thanks for the great effort. Is is possible to share the compilation steps? 



rgds,

CL


 On Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:40:20 +0800   wrote 


Did you test the Atoms stuff ?
 
 Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :
On 04.11.2019, at 14:55, mailto:stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:

Thanks Samuel. So the regexp error can eventually have the same cause (libcurl 
version mismatch). I have packaged a scilab-6.0.2 without these libraries (and 
removing the 10.15 warning) for OSX users at the following URL:
 
 
https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/1/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg
 
 CL, Heinz, Willi can you test it ?

Works to perfection and without this funny warning.
 
 I recommend temporary renaming/moving your .Scilab/scilab-6.0.2 directory 
before testing


Thanks. Very helpful. Great suggestion. I would not have thought of it…..
 
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2019-11-04 Thread stephane . mottelet 

 Did you test the Atoms stuff ?

Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :


On 04.11.2019, at 14:55, stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:
Thanks Samuel. So the regexp error can eventually have the same  
cause (libcurl version mismatch). I have packaged a scilab-6.0.2  
without these libraries (and removing the 10.15 warning) for OSX  
users at the following URL:


https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/1/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/www.utc.fr/~mottelet/scilab/download/6.0.2/scilab-6.0.2-x86_64-2019-11-04.dmg

CL, Heinz, Willi can you test it ?


Works to perfection and without this funny warning.

I recommend temporary renaming/moving your .Scilab/scilab-6.0.2  
directory before testing


Thanks. Very helpful. Great suggestion. I would not have thought of it…..

Thanks for your dedication to this work.Heinz
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2019-11-04 Thread Samuel Gougeon 

Le 04/11/2019 à 12:58, stephane.motte...@utc.fr a écrit :


Hello,

Concerning the ATOMS problems with 6.0.2 on OSX Catalina (Windows 
users please stop reading further... ;-)), I have the following error 
on a freshly installed configuration (dedicated partition on my machine):


Scilab 6.0.2 (Aug 19 2019, 11:47:50)

--> *atomsList*

atomsDownload: The following file hasn't been downloaded:

- URL : 'http://atoms.scilab.org/6.0/TOOLBOXES/64/macosx.gz'

- Local location : 
'/private/var/folders/pp/hrld62h917x_ccf55yzn78z0gn/T/SCI_TMP_1093_DIw7vR/.atoms/1_TOOLBOXES.gz'


WARNING: error: Wrong type for input argument #1: string expected.

Scanning repository http://atoms.scilab.org/6.0 ... Skipped

at line 198 of function atomsDESCRIPTIONget ( 
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_internals/atomsDESCRIPTIONget.sci 
line 217 )


at line 38 of function atomsList           ( 
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atomsList.sci 
line 54 )


All ATOMS repositories scan failed.


In fact the temp folder

/private/var/folders/pp/hrld62h917x_ccf55yzn78z0gn/T/SCI_TMP_1093_DIw7vR/.atoms

is empty. This is not a network problem as the following command succeeds:

--> *getURL http://atoms.scilab.org/6.0/TOOLBOXES/64/macosx.gz *

 ans  =

 /Users/mottelet/macosx.gz

Samuel do you have an idea ?



It is possibly either a file-locking issue (for instance due to a 
previous error without closing the file, that atoms then tries to 
overwrite. Possible workaround : quit the session to unlock the file, 
and retry), or an unzip issue (there were formerly many issues due to 
the fact that unzipping did not force overwritting ; but that should be 
completely fixed in 6.0.2).


For some (fortunately very rare) ATOMS modules, the software used by the 
author to bundle the ATOMS archive of the module is not a standard one, 
and the ATOMS unzip command is not able to do the job. But it's not the 
case here.


The regexp error is very likely due to an empty case after failing to 
get a vector (of packages names or either):


--> regexp([],"hk")
regexp: Wrong type for input argument #1: string expected.

It's hard to debug when an issue is transient or not fully reproducible.
By the way, i have no easy access to a MacOS computer.

For contribution

Samuel

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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-04 Thread stephane . mottelet 
 I made the test from the command line. However, I think the regexp  
problem (which I didn't have) has a different origin.


S.

Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :


hi,
    
   as willi suggested, hv u tried to launch the scilab from terminal  
and run the command again?

    
   thanks.
    
   rdgs,
CL


 On Mon, 04 Nov 2019 20:31:24 +0800   
 wrote 


Thanks Heinz, this is weird. In fact the problem comes from the  
libcurl which is bundled with Scilab. I think the lib was bundled  
for historical reasons (libcurl was likely needed for old OSX  
versions).


Since the problem occurs for a Catalina clean install, without any  
additionnal software such as Xcode, developper tools, command line  
tools (which could eventually install a different curl binary), I  
think we should remove these libraries from  
SCI/../../lib/thirdparty/, or at least change the order in the  
DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH in the bin/scilab script.


S.

Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :


On 04.11.2019, at 12:58, stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:


atomsList


Never used atoms nor do I know, what they are good for, but my  
6.02 in Catalina gives


--> atomsList
                       animaGIF - stand-alone creation of an  
animated GIF image from images files or from a live figure

                    ANN_Toolbox - Artificial Neural Network toolbox
                         apifun - Check input arguments in macros

Altogether 66 lines.

Is there something that I can check for you?Heinz



 

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2019-11-04 Thread stephane . mottelet 
 Thanks Heinz, this is weird. In fact the problem comes from the  
libcurl which is bundled with Scilab. I think the lib was bundled for  
historical reasons (libcurl was likely needed for old OSX versions).


Since the problem occurs for a Catalina clean install, without any  
additionnal software such as Xcode, developper tools, command line  
tools (which could eventually install a different curl binary), I  
think we should remove these libraries from SCI/../../lib/thirdparty/,  
or at least change the order in the DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH in the  
bin/scilab script.


S.

Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :


On 04.11.2019, at 12:58, stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:

atomsList


Never used atoms nor do I know, what they are good for, but my 6.02  
in Catalina gives


--> atomsList
                       animaGIF - stand-alone creation of an  
animated GIF image from images files or from a live figure

                    ANN_Toolbox - Artificial Neural Network toolbox
                         apifun - Check input arguments in macros

Altogether 66 lines.

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2019-11-04 Thread Heinz Nabielek 
On 04.11.2019, at 12:58, stephane.motte...@utc.fr wrote:
> 
> atomsList

Never used atoms nor do I know, what they are good for, but my 6.02 in Catalina 
gives

--> atomsList
animaGIF - stand-alone creation of an animated GIF 
image from images files or from a live figure
 ANN_Toolbox - Artificial Neural Network toolbox
  apifun - Check input arguments in macros

Altogether 66 lines.

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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-04 Thread stephane . mottelet 

 Hello,

Concerning the ATOMS problems with 6.0.2 on OSX Catalina (Windows  
users please stop reading further... ;-)), I have the following error  
on a freshly installed configuration (dedicated partition on my  
machine):


Scilab 6.0.2 (Aug 19 2019, 11:47:50)

  

 --> ATOMSLIST

 atomsDownload: The following file hasn't been downloaded:

 - URL      : 'http://atoms.scilab.org/6.0/TOOLBOXES/64/macosx.gz'

 - Local location :  
'/private/var/folders/pp/hrld62h917x_ccf55yzn78z0gn/T/SCI_TMP_1093_DIw7vR/.atoms/1_TOOLBOXES.gz'


 WARNING: error: Wrong type for input argument #1: string expected.

 Scanning repository http://atoms.scilab.org/6.0 ... Skipped

  

 at line   198 of function atomsDESCRIPTIONget (  
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_internals/atomsDESCRIPTIONget.sci line 217  
)


 at line    38 of function atomsList           (  
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atomsList.sci line 54  
)


  

 All ATOMS repositories scan failed.

In fact the temp folder 

/private/var/folders/pp/hrld62h917x_ccf55yzn78z0gn/T/SCI_TMP_1093_DIw7vR/.atoms

is empty. This is not a network problem as the following command succeeds:
 

 --> GETURL HTTP://ATOMS.SCILAB.ORG/6.0/TOOLBOXES/64/MACOSX.GZ 

  ans  =

  

  

  /Users/mottelet/macosx.gz

 Samuel do you have an idea ?

S.

Chin Luh Tan  a écrit :


Hi Perrichon,
    
   Apologize in advance but I think the this conversation is  
actually solving quite some issues in MacOS and I felt that it could  
be helpful to continue in mailing list. However, I've no objection  
to bring it private as well, please keep me in the loop if it goes  
private. :)

    
   For MacOS users I think they are couple of issues which has been  
resolved (or some workaround) by this thread. Base on the  
conversation, I think we could come out with some guideline which  
could be helpful:

    
   1. for version before High Sierra (10.13), everything works fine,  
from scilab 6.0.1 to 6.0.2, and I could confirm that atomsInstall  
for modules such as IPCV works perfectly on this platform for both  
6.0.1 and 6.0.2

    
   2. with Stephen help, using the patch for Java, Scilab 6.0.2  
could launch on Catalina (10.15) successfully.

    
   3. Issues with atoms on MacOS arise since Majove (10.14),  
including Catalina,  the very same module during the installation  
gives issue, which has been reported here:

   http://forge.scilab.org/index.php/p/ipcv/issues/1919/[1] .
    
   4. This prompt us to explore further, and found out that modules  
with only macros seems ok, but the one with gateway will have this  
issues.

    
   5. We have to emphasis, the very same module works on Scilab  
6.0.2 MacOS High Sierra, It only broke since Majove where the  
extractions of modules seems to be very very different with previous  
version of Mac. I would not say it is MacOS or Scilab issue, but  
obviously it seems to be some changes in MacOS that caused this  
behavior?

    
   In summary, with Stephen's fix, the Scilab 6.0.2 could now run on  
MacOS Catalina, while with Willi finding on the modules folders  
disorganization and how to manually move them around, we could make  
the modules run as well. I think this is quite a great achievement  
so far to provide Mac users a workaround for current issues, and  
let's make it even better in coming release!

    
   Cheers!
    
   Thanks
    
   Regards,
   Chin Luh
    
    
    
    
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I meant

[version, opts] = getversion()

Le 03/11/2019 à 21:44, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit :



Le 3 nov. 2019 à 20:48, knobs  a écrit :

Hi,

I had worked on CelestLab and different CV packages and compiled them
in Sierra or High Sierra (not sure anymore). IPCV and SciCV. Both are
now readily available... No more need to compile them ;-)

I am not compiling SciLab from scratch. That would be beyond my
capabilities.

I only use Homebrew. No Fink no MacPorts. So far I am very happy
with what I can find on Homebrew.

There are still issues with ATOMS when start it through the Menu.
Starting scilab through the Terminal window helped populating and
downloading the list of package and categories. After that I can
start the ATOMS GUI when starting SciLab as an app. I can hence  
confirm Chin Luh Tan's experience.


E.g. CelestLab could be installed through the Menu and the GUI. No
issues at all. After the SciLab restart, I could not install IPCV or
other toolboxes this way. Different messages. Typically it canno

Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread Perrichon 
Dear tan

Many thanks  for your poem. It is so romantic.

No sure you speak to the right person

I have no mac at home

 

sincerely yours

 

 

 

 

De : users  De la part de Chin Luh Tan
Envoyé : lundi 4 novembre 2019 02:09
À : Users mailing list for Scilab 
Cc : 'Users mailing list for Scilab' 
Objet : Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: 
Anyprogress in sight?

 

Hi Perrichon,

 

Apologize in advance but I think the this conversation is actually solving 
quite some issues in MacOS and I felt that it could be helpful to continue in 
mailing list. However, I've no objection to bring it private as well, please 
keep me in the loop if it goes private. :)

 

For MacOS users I think they are couple of issues which has been resolved (or 
some workaround) by this thread. Base on the conversation, I think we could 
come out with some guideline which could be helpful:

 

1. for version before High Sierra (10.13), everything works fine, from scilab 
6.0.1 to 6.0.2, and I could confirm that atomsInstall for modules such as IPCV 
works perfectly on this platform for both 6.0.1 and 6.0.2

 

2. with Stephen help, using the patch for Java, Scilab 6.0.2 could launch on 
Catalina (10.15) successfully.

 

3. Issues with atoms on MacOS arise since Majove (10.14), including Catalina,  
the very same module during the installation gives issue, which has been 
reported here:

http://forge.scilab.org/index.php/p/ipcv/issues/1919/ . 

 

4. This prompt us to explore further, and found out that modules with only 
macros seems ok, but the one with gateway will have this issues. 

 

5. We have to emphasis, the very same module works on Scilab 6.0.2 MacOS High 
Sierra, It only broke since Majove where the extractions of modules seems to be 
very very different with previous version of Mac. I would not say it is MacOS 
or Scilab issue, but obviously it seems to be some changes in MacOS that caused 
this behavior?

 

In summary, with Stephen's fix, the Scilab 6.0.2 could now run on MacOS 
Catalina, while with Willi finding on the modules folders disorganization and 
how to manually move them around, we could make the modules run as well. I 
think this is quite a great achievement so far to provide Mac users a 
workaround for current issues, and let's make it even better in coming release!

 

Cheers!

 

Thanks

 

Regards,

Chin Luh

 

 

 

 

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I meant 

[version, opts] = getversion() 

Le 03/11/2019 à 21:44, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : 
> 
>> Le 3 nov. 2019 à 20:48, knobs > <mailto:wknoe...@gmail.com> > a écrit : 
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I had worked on CelestLab and different CV packages and compiled them 
>> in Sierra or High Sierra (not sure anymore). IPCV and SciCV. Both are 
>> now readily available... No more need to compile them ;-) 
>> 
>> I am not compiling SciLab from scratch. That would be beyond my 
>> capabilities. 
>> 
>> I only use Homebrew. No Fink no MacPorts. So far I am very happy 
>> with what I can find on Homebrew. 
>> 
>> There are still issues with ATOMS when start it through the Menu. 
>> Starting scilab through the Terminal window helped populating and 
>> downloading the list of package and categories. After that I can 
>> start the ATOMS GUI when starting SciLab as an app. I can hence confirm Chin 
>> Luh Tan's experience. 
>> 
>> E.g. CelestLab could be installed through the Menu and the GUI. No 
>> issues at all. After the SciLab restart, I could not install IPCV or 
>> other toolboxes this way. Different messages. Typically it cannot 
>> find certain files or the html links are broken. So maybe it is 
>> either the file/directory structure of the zip file or the link to 
>> the zip file does not exist anymore. Thus it might actually be neither a 
>> SciLab nor an ATOMS issue (indirectly maybe). 
>> 
>> Then I deleted all leftovers of IPCV in the contrib folder and used 
>> atomsInstall('IPCV'), which put the files in the share/.../contrib 
>> folder, but I realized the folder structure is wrong (not 
>> recognised?). I had to move all files and subdirectories from the 
>> .../IPCV/IPCV folder to .../IPCV/4.1/ Then everything works perfectly. 
>> 
>> Very tricky. 
>&

Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
Hi Perrichon,



Apologize in advance but I think the this conversation is actually solving 
quite some issues in MacOS and I felt that it could be helpful to continue in 
mailing list. However, I've no objection to bring it private as well, please 
keep me in the loop if it goes private. :)



For MacOS users I think they are couple of issues which has been resolved (or 
some workaround) by this thread. Base on the conversation, I think we could 
come out with some guideline which could be helpful:



1. for version before High Sierra (10.13), everything works fine, from scilab 
6.0.1 to 6.0.2, and I could confirm that atomsInstall for modules such as IPCV 
works perfectly on this platform for both 6.0.1 and 6.0.2



2. with Stephen help, using the patch for Java, Scilab 6.0.2 could launch on 
Catalina (10.15) successfully.



3. Issues with atoms on MacOS arise since Majove (10.14), including Catalina,  
the very same module during the installation gives issue, which has been 
reported here:

http://forge.scilab.org/index.php/p/ipcv/issues/1919/ . 



4. This prompt us to explore further, and found out that modules with only 
macros seems ok, but the one with gateway will have this issues. 



5. We have to emphasis, the very same module works on Scilab 6.0.2 MacOS High 
Sierra, It only broke since Majove where the extractions of modules seems to be 
very very different with previous version of Mac. I would not say it is MacOS 
or Scilab issue, but obviously it seems to be some changes in MacOS that caused 
this behavior?



In summary, with Stephen's fix, the Scilab 6.0.2 could now run on MacOS 
Catalina, while with Willi finding on the modules folders disorganization and 
how to manually move them around, we could make the modules run as well. I 
think this is quite a great achievement so far to provide Mac users a 
workaround for current issues, and let's make it even better in coming release!



Cheers!


Thanks


Regards,

Chin Luh








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Le 03/11/2019 à 21:44, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit : 
> 
>> Le 3 nov. 2019 à 20:48, knobs <mailto:wknoe...@gmail.com> a écrit : 
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I had worked on CelestLab and different CV packages and compiled them 
>> in Sierra or High Sierra (not sure anymore). IPCV and SciCV. Both are 
>> now readily available... No more need to compile them ;-) 
>> 
>> I am not compiling SciLab from scratch. That would be beyond my 
>> capabilities. 
>> 
>> I only use Homebrew. No Fink no MacPorts.  So far I am very happy 
>> with what I can find on Homebrew. 
>> 
>> There are still issues with ATOMS when start it through the Menu. 
>> Starting scilab through the Terminal window helped populating and 
>> downloading the list of package and categories. After that I can 
>> start the ATOMS GUI when starting SciLab as an app. I can hence confirm Chin 
>> Luh Tan's experience. 
>> 
>> E.g. CelestLab could be installed through the Menu and the GUI. No 
>> issues at all. After the SciLab restart, I could not install IPCV or 
>> other toolboxes this way. Different messages. Typically it cannot 
>> find certain files or the html links are broken. So maybe it is 
>> either the file/directory structure of the zip file or the link to 
>> the zip file does not exist anymore. Thus it might actually be neither a 
>> SciLab nor an ATOMS issue (indirectly maybe). 
>> 
>> Then I deleted all leftovers of IPCV in the contrib folder and used 
>> atomsInstall('IPCV'), which put the files in the share/.../contrib 
>> folder, but I realized the folder structure is wrong (not 
>> recognised?). I had to move all files and subdirectories from the 
>> .../IPCV/IPCV folder to .../IPCV/4.1/  Then everything works perfectly. 
>> 
>> Very tricky. 
>> 
>> BTW, output from getversion() is  "scilab-6.0.2". 
>> 
>> W. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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I meant

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Le 03/11/2019 à 21:44, Stéphane Mottelet a écrit :
>
>> Le 3 nov. 2019 à 20:48, knobs  a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I had worked on CelestLab and different CV packages and compiled them 
>> in Sierra or High Sierra (not sure anymore). IPCV and SciCV. Both are 
>> now readily available... No more need to compile them ;-)
>>
>> I am not compiling SciLab from scratch. That would be beyond my 
>> capabilities.
>>
>> I only use Homebrew. No Fink no MacPorts.  So far I am very happy 
>> with what I can find on Homebrew.
>>
>> There are still issues with ATOMS when start it through the Menu. 
>> Starting scilab through the Terminal window helped populating and 
>> downloading the list of package and categories. After that I can 
>> start the ATOMS GUI when starting SciLab as an app. I can hence confirm Chin 
>> Luh Tan's experience.
>>
>> E.g. CelestLab could be installed through the Menu and the GUI. No 
>> issues at all. After the SciLab restart, I could not install IPCV or 
>> other toolboxes this way. Different messages. Typically it cannot 
>> find certain files or the html links are broken. So maybe it is 
>> either the file/directory structure of the zip file or the link to 
>> the zip file does not exist anymore. Thus it might actually be neither a 
>> SciLab nor an ATOMS issue (indirectly maybe).
>>
>> Then I deleted all leftovers of IPCV in the contrib folder and used 
>> atomsInstall('IPCV'), which put the files in the share/.../contrib 
>> folder, but I realized the folder structure is wrong (not 
>> recognised?). I had to move all files and subdirectories from the 
>> .../IPCV/IPCV folder to .../IPCV/4.1/  Then everything works perfectly.
>>
>> Very tricky.
>>
>> BTW, output from getversion() is  "scilab-6.0.2".
>>
>> W.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 


> Le 3 nov. 2019 à 20:48, knobs  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I had worked on CelestLab and different CV packages and compiled them in
> Sierra or High Sierra (not sure anymore). IPCV and SciCV. Both are now
> readily available... No more need to compile them ;-)
> 
> I am not compiling SciLab from scratch. That would be beyond my
> capabilities.
> 
> I only use Homebrew. No Fink no MacPorts.  So far I am very happy with what
> I can find on Homebrew.
> 
> There are still issues with ATOMS when start it through the Menu. Starting
> scilab through the Terminal window helped populating and downloading the
> list of package and categories. After that I can start the ATOMS GUI when
> starting SciLab as an app. I can hence confirm Chin Luh Tan's experience.
> 
> E.g. CelestLab could be installed through the Menu and the GUI. No issues at
> all. After the SciLab restart, I could not install IPCV or other toolboxes
> this way. Different messages. Typically it cannot find certain files or the
> html links are broken. So maybe it is either the file/directory structure of
> the zip file or the link to the zip file does not exist anymore. Thus it
> might actually be neither a SciLab nor an ATOMS issue (indirectly maybe).
> 
> Then I deleted all leftovers of IPCV in the contrib folder and used
> atomsInstall('IPCV'), which put the files in the share/.../contrib folder,
> but I realized the folder structure is wrong (not recognised?). I had to
> move all files and subdirectories from the .../IPCV/IPCV folder to
> .../IPCV/4.1/  Then everything works perfectly.
> 
> Very tricky.
> 
> BTW, output from getversion() is  "scilab-6.0.2".
> 
> W.
> 
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread knobs 
Hi,

I had worked on CelestLab and different CV packages and compiled them in
Sierra or High Sierra (not sure anymore). IPCV and SciCV. Both are now
readily available... No more need to compile them ;-)

I am not compiling SciLab from scratch. That would be beyond my
capabilities.

I only use Homebrew. No Fink no MacPorts.  So far I am very happy with what
I can find on Homebrew.

There are still issues with ATOMS when start it through the Menu. Starting
scilab through the Terminal window helped populating and downloading the
list of package and categories. After that I can start the ATOMS GUI when
starting SciLab as an app. I can hence confirm Chin Luh Tan's experience.

E.g. CelestLab could be installed through the Menu and the GUI. No issues at
all. After the SciLab restart, I could not install IPCV or other toolboxes
this way. Different messages. Typically it cannot find certain files or the
html links are broken. So maybe it is either the file/directory structure of
the zip file or the link to the zip file does not exist anymore. Thus it
might actually be neither a SciLab nor an ATOMS issue (indirectly maybe).

Then I deleted all leftovers of IPCV in the contrib folder and used
atomsInstall('IPCV'), which put the files in the share/.../contrib folder,
but I realized the folder structure is wrong (not recognised?). I had to
move all files and subdirectories from the .../IPCV/IPCV folder to
.../IPCV/4.1/  Then everything works perfectly.

Very tricky.

BTW, output from getversion() is  "scilab-6.0.2".

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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 

Le 03/11/2019 à 17:23, Chin Luh Tan a écrit :

One more thing, the macos compilation guide which is using fink might 
be a bit outdated,
The official 6.0.2 build has been done on a High Sierra machine which is 
completely dedicated to this task. Starting from Mojave working with 
Fink began to be very painfull, and as far as Catalina is concerned, the 
Fink maintainers started to fix things only after the official Apple 
release.

anyone having any idea, should we use homebrew, mac_port, instead?


On the other hand, the Homebrew guys prepared the transition during all 
the beta stage of Catalina. I have already made some Scilab builds with 
Homebrew and think I will use it for the next Scilab release. However, a 
bit of tweaking is necessary as some libraries have too recent versions 
(for example the libmatio recipe has to be modified to use hdf5@1.8 
instead of 1.10).


S.



thanks again.

rgds,
CL


 On Mon, 04 Nov 2019 00:20:29 +0800 *Chin Luh Tan 
* wrote 


Hi Stéphane, Willi,

First of all, thanks for the fix on the java issues and the Scilab
could be launch in Catalina!

Secondly, Willi, I was facing the same atoms issue with you when
first launching the Scilab from the app, then I switch to the
terminal and get it running. After the first time running from
terminal, it seems to be alright to run from app after that. Could
you confirm that?

Thanks.

rgds,
CL


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Hi Stéphane,

Sorry, if you felt offended. I was simply reporting a bug. I
am spending
hours trying to get SciLab to work on macOS and compiling
atoms toolboxes
from scratch that are not available (yet) for macOS. At 2 a.m.
I can crack a
joke. Otherwise I would go insane. The world is not that black
and white.

In any case, I found a work around, not a real solution. When
starting
scilab through the Terminal window I can kind of load ATOMS,
but not when
starting the app.

Cheers
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 


Le 03/11/2019 à 17:20, Chin Luh Tan a écrit :

Hi Stéphane, Willi,

First of all, thanks for the fix on the java issues and the Scilab 
could be launch in Catalina!
We should be able to bundle the JRE with Scilab. I hope for the next 
release.


Secondly, Willi, I was facing the same atoms issue with you when first 
launching the Scilab from the app, then I switch to the terminal and 
get it running. After the first time running from terminal, it seems 
to be alright to run from app after that. Could you confirm that?


Thanks.

rgds,
CL


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Hi Stéphane,

Sorry, if you felt offended. I was simply reporting a bug. I am
spending
hours trying to get SciLab to work on macOS and compiling atoms
toolboxes
from scratch that are not available (yet) for macOS. At 2 a.m. I
can crack a
joke. Otherwise I would go insane. The world is not that black and
white.

In any case, I found a work around, not a real solution. When starting
scilab through the Terminal window I can kind of load ATOMS, but
not when
starting the app.

Cheers
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 

Le 03/11/2019 à 15:45, knobs a écrit :


Hi Stéphane,

Sorry, if you felt offended. I was simply reporting a bug.  I am spending
hours trying to get SciLab to work on macOS

You are not alone...

  and compiling atoms toolboxes
from scratch that are not available (yet) for macOS.


Glad to hear that kind of good news ! Which packages are you working on ?


At 2 a.m. I can crack a
joke. Otherwise I would go insane. The world is not that black and white.

In any case, I found a work around, not a real solution. When starting
scilab through the Terminal window I can kind of load ATOMS, but not when
starting the app.


I remember I had this problem (regexp error) when working on Mojave 
compatibility.
Are you sure to have the latest 6.0.2 build (please give the full 
getversion() output) ?


S.



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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
One more thing, the macos compilation guide which is using fink might be a bit 
outdated, anyone having any idea, should we use homebrew, mac_port, instead?



thanks again.



rgds,

CL


 On Mon, 04 Nov 2019 00:20:29 +0800 Chin Luh Tan 
 wrote 


Hi Stéphane, Willi,



First of all, thanks for the fix on the java issues and the Scilab could be 
launch in Catalina!



Secondly, Willi, I was facing the same atoms issue with you when first 
launching the Scilab from the app, then I switch to the terminal and get it 
running. After the first time running from terminal, it seems to be alright to 
run from app after that. Could you confirm that?



Thanks.



rgds,

CL





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Sorry, if you felt offended. I was simply reporting a bug.  I am spending
hours trying to get SciLab to work on macOS and compiling atoms toolboxes
from scratch that are not available (yet) for macOS. At 2 a.m. I can crack a
joke. Otherwise I would go insane. The world is not that black and white.

In any case, I found a work around, not a real solution. When starting
scilab through the Terminal window I can kind of load ATOMS, but not when
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread Chin Luh Tan 
Hi Stéphane, Willi,



First of all, thanks for the fix on the java issues and the Scilab could be 
launch in Catalina!



Secondly, Willi, I was facing the same atoms issue with you when first 
launching the Scilab from the app, then I switch to the terminal and get it 
running. After the first time running from terminal, it seems to be alright to 
run from app after that. Could you confirm that?



Thanks.



rgds,

CL




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Hi Stéphane,

Sorry, if you felt offended. I was simply reporting a bug.  I am spending
hours trying to get SciLab to work on macOS and compiling atoms toolboxes
from scratch that are not available (yet) for macOS. At 2 a.m. I can crack a
joke. Otherwise I would go insane. The world is not that black and white.

In any case, I found a work around, not a real solution. When starting
scilab through the Terminal window I can kind of load ATOMS, but not when
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread knobs 
Hi Stéphane,

Sorry, if you felt offended. I was simply reporting a bug.  I am spending
hours trying to get SciLab to work on macOS and compiling atoms toolboxes
from scratch that are not available (yet) for macOS. At 2 a.m. I can crack a
joke. Otherwise I would go insane. The world is not that black and white.

In any case, I found a work around, not a real solution. When starting
scilab through the Terminal window I can kind of load ATOMS, but not when
starting the app.

Cheers
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-03 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 


> Le 3 nov. 2019 à 00:34, knobs  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just installed Scilab 6.0.2. and now the real funs starts.

Frankly, I don’t appreciate your sense of humour. Keeping Scilab *alive* on OSX 
remains on the work of guys like you and me. So don’t be sarcastic when you 
report issues...

> ATOMS has issues:
> 
> --> atomsList();
> Scanning repository 
> https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/1/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/atoms.scilab.org/6.0
>  ... Done
> 
> at line65 of function atomsDESCRIPTIONread (
> /Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_internals/atomsDESCRIPTIONread.sci
> line 125 )
> at line   227 of function atomsDESCRIPTIONget  (
> /Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_internals/atomsDESCRIPTIONget.sci
> line 246 )
> at line38 of function atomsList(
> /Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atomsList.sci
> line 54 )
> 
> regexp: Unknown error.
> 
> I don't have this issue with 6.0.1.
> 
> W.
> 
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-02 Thread knobs 
Hi,

Just installed Scilab 6.0.2. and now the real funs starts. ATOMS has issues:

--> atomsList();
Scanning repository http://atoms.scilab.org/6.0 ... Done

at line65 of function atomsDESCRIPTIONread (
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_internals/atomsDESCRIPTIONread.sci
line 125 )
at line   227 of function atomsDESCRIPTIONget  (
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atoms_internals/atomsDESCRIPTIONget.sci
line 246 )
at line38 of function atomsList(
/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/share/scilab/modules/atoms/macros/atomsList.sci
line 54 )

regexp: Unknown error.

I don't have this issue with 6.0.1.

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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-02 Thread knobs 
Hi,

Thank you :-)

After running the python script from the link that you had provided, Scilabs
6.0.1. starts under Catalina :-)

https://github.com/rtrouton/rtrouton_scripts/blob/master/rtrouton_scripts/update_oracle_java_jdk_jvmcapabilities/update_oracle_java_jdk_jvmcapabilities.py

I have not installed the latest version from Scilab, ... one fix at a time
;-)

As for java, SE version 1.8.0_231 and the jdk 13.0.1 are installed.

I also made sure, that macOS 10.15 is recognised in the scilab start script.

Cheers
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-02 Thread Heinz Nabielek 
Same error message windows, but starting on the command line. Great!

Would I have full SciLab power here?
Heinz




/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/scilab -nwni 
true
Scilab 6.0.2 (Aug 19 2019, 11:47:50)

--> a=sqrt(3) 
 a  = 

   1.7320508


--> 3-a*a 
 ans  =

   4.441D-16


--> exit 

> On 02.11.2019, at 22:56, Stéphane Mottelet  wrote:
> 
> BTW can you launch Scilab on the command line with -nwni flag in order to see 
> other (besides Java) potential problems ?
> 
> S.
> 
>> Le 2 nov. 2019 à 22:33, Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :
>> 
>> On 02.11.2019, at 21:56, Stéphane Mottelet  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
> Le 2 nov. 2019 à 17:41, knobs  a écrit :
 
 Hi Heinz, Did you find a fix? I had SciLab 6 running perfectly well on my 
 Macs under both Mojave and High Sierra without installing Java 6. This is 
 not an Apple problem, but a SciLab issue.
>>> 
>>> This IS an Apple issue.
>>> 
 Honestly, I do not understand why SciLab has to use be Java 6 ?!! Seems 
 backwards to me. There was a way to tell old java apps to use the new 
 up-to-date java. I just do not remember how I did this anymore.
>>> 
>>> See
>>> 
>>> https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/2/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/derflounder.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/modifying-oracles-java-sdk-to-run-java-applications-on-os-x/
>>> 
 So after installing Catalina, Scilab does not work anymore. It must have 
 removed my java links/fix. Once I figure it out again, I let you know. 
 Cheers Willi 
>>> 
>>> The first thing you can do is to launch Scilab from the command line and 
>>> post the error message.
>> 
>> 
>> Exactly same error window messages and ...
>> 
>> /Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/scilab -nw
>> true
>> No Java runtime present, requesting install.
>> 
>> h
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-02 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 
BTW can you launch Scilab on the command line with -nwni flag in order to see 
other (besides Java) potential problems ?

S.

> Le 2 nov. 2019 à 22:33, Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :
> 
> On 02.11.2019, at 21:56, Stéphane Mottelet  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
 Le 2 nov. 2019 à 17:41, knobs  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi Heinz, Did you find a fix? I had SciLab 6 running perfectly well on my 
>>> Macs under both Mojave and High Sierra without installing Java 6. This is 
>>> not an Apple problem, but a SciLab issue.
>> 
>> This IS an Apple issue.
>> 
>>> Honestly, I do not understand why SciLab has to use be Java 6 ?!! Seems 
>>> backwards to me. There was a way to tell old java apps to use the new 
>>> up-to-date java. I just do not remember how I did this anymore.
>> 
>> See
>> 
>> https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/2/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/derflounder.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/modifying-oracles-java-sdk-to-run-java-applications-on-os-x/
>> 
>>> So after installing Catalina, Scilab does not work anymore. It must have 
>>> removed my java links/fix. Once I figure it out again, I let you know. 
>>> Cheers Willi 
>> 
>> The first thing you can do is to launch Scilab from the command line and 
>> post the error message.
> 
> 
> Exactly same error window messages and ...
> 
> /Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/scilab -nw
> true
> No Java runtime present, requesting install.
> 
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-02 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 
Hello Heinz 

Please install Oracle JDK 1.8  and follow the instructions in the link I gave 
below.

S.

> Le 2 nov. 2019 à 22:33, Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :
> 
> On 02.11.2019, at 21:56, Stéphane Mottelet  wrote:
>> Hello,
> Le 2 nov. 2019 à 17:41, knobs  a écrit :
 Hi Heinz, Did you find a fix? I had SciLab 6 running perfectly well on my 
 Macs under both Mojave and High Sierra without installing Java 6. This is 
 not an Apple problem, but a SciLab issue.
>> This IS an Apple issue.
>>> Honestly, I do not understand why SciLab has to use be Java 6 ?!! Seems 
>>> backwards to me. There was a way to tell old java apps to use the new 
>>> up-to-date java. I just do not remember how I did this anymore.
>> See
>> https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/2/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/derflounder.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/modifying-oracles-java-sdk-to-run-java-applications-on-os-x/
>>> So after installing Catalina, Scilab does not work anymore. It must have 
>>> removed my java links/fix. Once I figure it out again, I let you know. 
>>> Cheers Willi
>> The first thing you can do is to launch Scilab from the command line and 
>> post the error message.
> 
> 
> Exactly same error window messages and ...
> 
> /Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/scilab -nw
> true
> No Java runtime present, requesting install.
> 
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-02 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 


> Le 2 nov. 2019 à 22:33, Heinz Nabielek  a écrit :
> 
> On 02.11.2019, at 21:56, Stéphane Mottelet  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
 Le 2 nov. 2019 à 17:41, knobs  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi Heinz, Did you find a fix? I had SciLab 6 running perfectly well on my 
>>> Macs under both Mojave and High Sierra without installing Java 6. This is 
>>> not an Apple problem, but a SciLab issue.
>> 
>> This IS an Apple issue.
>> 
>>> Honestly, I do not understand why SciLab has to use be Java 6 ?!! Seems 
>>> backwards to me. There was a way to tell old java apps to use the new 
>>> up-to-date java. I just do not remember how I did this anymore.
>> 
>> See
>> 
>> https://antispam.utc.fr/proxy/2/c3RlcGhhbmUubW90dGVsZXRAdXRjLmZy/derflounder.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/modifying-oracles-java-sdk-to-run-java-applications-on-os-x/
>> 
>>> So after installing Catalina, Scilab does not work anymore. It must have 
>>> removed my java links/fix. Once I figure it out again, I let you know. 
>>> Cheers Willi 
>> 
>> The first thing you can do is to launch Scilab from the command line and 
>> post the error message.
> 
> 
> Exactly same error window messages and ...
> 
> /Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/scilab -nw
> true
> No Java runtime present, requesting install.
> 
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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-02 Thread Heinz Nabielek 
On 02.11.2019, at 21:56, Stéphane Mottelet  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>> Le 2 nov. 2019 à 17:41, knobs  a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi Heinz, Did you find a fix? I had SciLab 6 running perfectly well on my 
>> Macs under both Mojave and High Sierra without installing Java 6. This is 
>> not an Apple problem, but a SciLab issue.
> 
> This IS an Apple issue.
> 
>> Honestly, I do not understand why SciLab has to use be Java 6 ?!! Seems 
>> backwards to me. There was a way to tell old java apps to use the new 
>> up-to-date java. I just do not remember how I did this anymore.
> 
> See
> 
> https://derflounder.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/modifying-oracles-java-sdk-to-run-java-applications-on-os-x/
> 
>> So after installing Catalina, Scilab does not work anymore. It must have 
>> removed my java links/fix. Once I figure it out again, I let you know. 
>> Cheers Willi 
> 
> The first thing you can do is to launch Scilab from the command line and post 
> the error message.


Exactly same error window messages and ...

/Applications/scilab-6.0.2.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/scilab -nw
true
No Java runtime present, requesting install.

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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-02 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 
Hello,

> Le 2 nov. 2019 à 17:41, knobs  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Heinz, Did you find a fix? I had SciLab 6 running perfectly well on my 
> Macs under both Mojave and High Sierra without installing Java 6. This is not 
> an Apple problem, but a SciLab issue.

This IS an Apple issue.

> Honestly, I do not understand why SciLab has to use be Java 6 ?!! Seems 
> backwards to me. There was a way to tell old java apps to use the new 
> up-to-date java. I just do not remember how I did this anymore.

See

https://derflounder.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/modifying-oracles-java-sdk-to-run-java-applications-on-os-x/

> So after installing Catalina, Scilab does not work anymore. It must have 
> removed my java links/fix. Once I figure it out again, I let you know. Cheers 
> Willi 

The first thing you can do is to launch Scilab from the command line and post 
the error message.

S.


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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-11-02 Thread knobs 
Hi Heinz,Did you find a fix?I had SciLab 6 running perfectly well on my Macs
under both Mojave and High Sierra without installing Java 6. This is not an
Apple problem, but a SciLab issue. Honestly, I do not understand why SciLab
has to use be Java 6 ?!! Seems backwards to me.There was a way to tell old
java apps to use the new up-to-date java. I just do not remember how I did
this anymore. So after installing Catalina, Scilab does not work anymore. It
must have removed my java links/fix.Once I figure it out again, I let you
know.CheersWilli



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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-10-28 Thread Heinz Nabielek 
On 28.10.2019, at 11:08, Stéphane Mottelet  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Le 27/10/2019 à 23:51, Heinz Nabielek a écrit :
>> HELP: after Mac breakdown, I had no other option than installting macOS 
>> 10.15 Catalina
> You always have the choice (using the recovery mode) to reinstall the OSX 
> version that was bundled with your Mac at purchase time.
>> and now Scilab cannot work, because the nasty Apple people do not allow Java 
>> 6.
>> 
>> Any progress in sight?
> 
> No. I warned everybody less that one month ago…

Thanks a lot. I did not have a choice…

There is an ancient Win10 PC around somewhere….
Heinz

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Re: [Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-10-28 Thread Stéphane Mottelet 

Hello,

Le 27/10/2019 à 23:51, Heinz Nabielek a écrit :

HELP: after Mac breakdown, I had no other option than installting macOS 10.15 
Catalina
You always have the choice (using the recovery mode) to reinstall the 
OSX version that was bundled with your Mac at purchase time.

and now Scilab cannot work, because the nasty Apple people do not allow Java 6.

Any progress in sight?


No. I warned everybody less that one month ago...

S.



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[Scilab-users] Scilab cannot work on macOS 10.15 Catalina: Any progress in sight?

2019-10-27 Thread Heinz Nabielek 
HELP: after Mac breakdown, I had no other option than installting macOS 10.15 
Catalina and now Scilab cannot work, because the nasty Apple people do not 
allow Java 6.

Any progress in sight?

Heinz
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